Beautiful Jane.

REID!!!

keep it coming

Go Get ‘um Harry!

90% compared to Deadeye’s 9%.

His time has come.

“I’d like some more, please . . .” — Oliver Twist

My most recent rant to my paper:
______

President Bush now excoriates “politicians in Washington who are substituting their own judgment for that of our generals in Iraq.”

Had the War President/Decider taken his own advice at the outset of his inexorably failing Iraq misadventure, things might have turned out favorably. The “politicians in Washington” comprising his own inner circle of invasion architects, however, had no problem in 2003 “substituting their own judgment for that of our generals.” The tragic and criminally incompetent net result is plain for all to see.

I want out of Iraq now. Are you listening Democratic front runners for the nomination for prez?

We need to call and thank Harry for hanging tough. He needs to know how much we appreciate him doing his ..um ..er job. Is the poll still open?

I guess I’m not the only one freaking tired of lies.

The poll is still open. Click on Janes link and go vote!!!!

lolo

I like Harry.

Once sent his office (along with dozens of other Americabloggers) some sweets for sticking it to the thugs on the floor of the Senate when they were still in control.

harry reid has been doing a great job recently of rhetorically challenging the bush/cheney administration over the iraq war/occupation.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 7

I want out of Iraq now. Are you listening Democratic front runners for the nomination for prez?

Ditto

I wonder if the AP takes a dim view of their material being rewritten in the manner the NY Post did.

This stuff is only going to get deeper so now is good time to go out and buy those rubber boots you have always wanted.

I’ve given Harry a ration or two over the years when I thought he’s deserved it — and he had shown as little spine as any other democrat over much of the last six years — but if he continues in his current vein, he will redeem himself in my and many other peoples eyes.

Besides, it’s easy to be righteous when you’re in the right, and Harry’s never been righter…er, lefter…more righteous!

It’s like the hackneyed scene from the movies where the sadistic jailer gets some of his own medicine
and stares unbelievingly at the oncoming inmates.

“Give ‘em hell, Harry” never rang so sweet.

selise @ 12

harry reid has been doing a great job recently of rhetorically challenging the bush/cheney administration over the iraq war/occupation.

;0)

Tony Snow back on Monday EPU’d. He is going to start his cancer treatment while working. I wonder if all the naysayers will attack him like they attacked Elizabeth Edwards. I doubt it. Hopefully it will diffuse all the fuss about Elizabeth. God bless them both during their recoveries.

lolo

lolo @
8

We need to call and thank Harry for hanging tough. He needs to know how much we appreciate him doing his ..um ..er job. Is the poll still open?

Called his office this morning to do just that. Told ‘em to keep up the good work since I couldn’t convince my own senators to do so.

I’m so sick and tired of being sick and tired. I hope Reid stands his ground.

When is the House vote supposed to be? I figured it would have happened by now. Don’t they need to vote so they can get out of town for the weekend?

cathy @ 21

I’m so sick and tired of being sick and tired. I hope Reid stands his ground.

Understood.

Tony Snow gonna go for the sympathy angle, IMHO

This is just more proof Harry and Nancy (at 93% last I looked) are captive of the nutroots.

/snark

lolo @
19

Tony Snow back on Monday EPU’d. He is going to start his cancer treatment while working. I wonder if all the naysayers will attack him like they attacked Elizabeth Edwards. I doubt it. Hopefully it will diffuse all the fuss about Elizabeth. God bless them both during their recoveries.

lolo

And Roger Ebert.

Jane!!! Yes, and the MSNBC poll says (when I looked) that 87% who answered the poll want W impeached.

America has switched beverages.

My current theory is that Harry has clued in (although not about Liebermonster) and is persuing a deliberate strategy.

Believe it was Kagro X who’d suggested taking the whole battle over Iraq to the American public, to bypass the media.

But I think Reid’s trying out a “use the media” option, making an end run around the White House by way of their own mouthpiece. By continuing to employ such blatantly confrontational language, the media has no choice but to ask for a response from the POTUS.

I can hardly wait to see it, wonder which MSM member will have the guts to ask: “Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said again that the war in Iraq has been been a presidential failure of policy, and further said you were in a state of denial. How do you respond?”

Bwa-hahahahahahah…

Harry keeps poking the psycho nutjob in the solar plexus until he goes all Colonel Jessup on us in front of the media and his staff. And then Congress will have no choice but to ask if the POTUS is competent in a DSM-IV sense to uphold his oath.

Give him another poke, Harry.

And then ask Granny Pelosi to give him one in the shins with her pointy toed shoes.

Good for Harry, but I wish the media would stop salivating over this like it’s some kinda High Noon b/w Bush and Reid. Everybody knows Bush will veto. What’s the big woop? Let’s get the predictable WH BS done and over with. They probably rushed poor Tony Snow back to handle the PR on this, I guaran-damn-tee ya.

Josh Marshall commenting a few moments ago on the NYPost’s rewrite destruction of the AP Reid story Jane linked to above:

It gets better. I just heard back from the author, David Espo. He told me: “I didn’t write anything remotely like that. My name was on the story and I didn’t write it anything like the way it was printed.”

I say the less traffic we give that Malkin person the better.

i thought i heard that the house was going to debate/vote on the conference version of the iraq war/occupation supplemental funding bill today… (and the senate tomorrow)

been listening to c-span, but nothing so far… does anyone know the schedule for this?

LS @ 27

Jane!!! Yes, and the MSNBC poll says (when I looked) that 87% who answered the poll want W impeached.

America has switched beverages.

W-O-W

Regardless of other considerations. Impeachment hearings are necessary.

People are beginning to identify when the liberty bell rings true. This country is recovering from PTSD after 9/11, and the Neocons took total advantage (or, nevermind) of the shock, fear and grief of this Nation.

We are recovering and coming on strong.

Ed*ard Teller @ 30

Josh Marshall commenting a few moments ago on the NYPost’s rewrite destruction of the AP Reid story Jane linked to above:

It gets better. I just heard back from the author, David Espo. He told me: “I didn’t write anything remotely like that. My name was on the story and I didn’t write it anything like the way it was printed.”

If the AP has any integrity, they will sue the b*stards.

Mandrake @ 29

Good for Harry, but I wish the media would stop salivating over this like it’s some kinda High Noon b/w Bush and Reid. Everybody knows Bush will veto. What’s the big woop? Let’s get the predictable WH BS done and over with. They probably rushed poor Tony Snow back to handle the PR on this, I guaran-damn-tee ya.

You can flame me and call me cynical, but I think this is a blatant use of the sympathy card. Tony may be up for the job, but what White House gaggle member will have the chutzpah to take it to Tony? Cheese-on-rice, they didn’t have the stones to ask the POTUS why he was taking softball questions from the fiddy-dollar-two-day-journo-cert man-whore in their midst, when the POTUS had the benefit of political capital. They won’t be up to the job of asking “poor, poor Tony” about the f*cking truth.

Ed*ard Teller @ 30

Josh Marshall commenting a few moments ago on the NYPost’s rewrite destruction of the AP Reid story Jane linked to above:

It gets better. I just heard back from the author, David Espo. He told me: “I didn’t write anything remotely like that. My name was on the story and I didn’t write it anything like the way it was printed.”

Well, then who the hell did???????????

Tap Duncan @ 24

Tony Snow gonna go for the sympathy angle, IMHO

I watched him at WH correspondents’ dinner last Saturday. He didn’t appear to be playing any games. Since word came out on his recurrance of cancer, he has made several statements about cancer fighters in general which struck me as sensible and humble.

No doubt this will make the Tillmans feel better.

Bush Said Sympathetic to Tillman Family

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: April 25, 2007
Filed at 4:36 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Bush hopes that someone is held responsible for the U.S. military’s mishandling of information about the death of former football star Pat Tillman in Afghanistan, the White House said Wednesday.

Bush did not learn about the unusual circumstances of the Army ranger’s death until after the soldier’s memorial service on May 3, 2004, said deputy press secretary Dana Perino.

…

LINK

Ed*ard Teller @ 39

It’s not Tony that’s playing games per se, ET. It’s Rove, with Tony’s permission. Rove’s trying to use the sympathy card to put up a social firewall between himself, POTUS and the media.

Go to the blogroll here and click on The Rude Pundit. He says it best.

But I have to say, I love how Harry just keeps at it, every day, never giving an inch. That’s how we’re going to win.

Is Harkin’s ad not supposed to say what party he is, if he is in one?

Calling Monica Goodling–as Blitzed just did–merely “a former Justice official” instead of liaison to the WH, is kinda like calling ol’ Scoots a former Congressional aide.

Oh, c’mon Jane. A dKos straw poll? I’m all for whoopin’ up Reid, but that’s not exactly a meaningful number.

Ed*ard Teller @ 39

Tap Duncan @ 24

Tony Snow gonna go for the sympathy angle, IMHO

I watched him at WH correspondents’ dinner last Saturday. He didn’t appear to be playing any games. Since word came out on his recurrance of cancer, he has made several statements about cancer fighters in general which struck me as sensible and humble.

Well he does have the best cancer doctors in the country working on him, but what about the rest of us?

AZ Matt @ 40

Bush Said Sympathetic to Tillman Family

[snip]

Bush did not learn about the unusual circumstances of the Army ranger’s death until after the soldier’s memorial service on May 3, 2004, said deputy press secretary Dana Perino.

…

Um, Tillman passed nearly 3 years ago. Why the sudden need to make this particular point??

I call bullsh*t.

Rayne @ 37

Mandrake @ 29

Good for Harry, but I wish the media would stop salivating over this like it’s some kinda High Noon b/w Bush and Reid. Everybody knows Bush will veto. What’s the big woop? Let’s get the predictable WH BS done and over with. They probably rushed poor Tony Snow back to handle the PR on this, I guaran-damn-tee ya.

You can flame me and call me cynical, but I think this is a blatant use of the sympathy card. Tony may be up for the job, but what White House gaggle member will have the chutzpah to take it to Tony? Cheese-on-rice, they didn’t have the stones to ask the POTUS why he was taking softball questions from the fiddy-dollar-two-day-journo-cert man-whore in their midst, when the POTUS had the benefit of political capital. They won’t be up to the job of asking “poor, poor Tony” about the f*cking truth.

Rayne I don’t think that will work for them, if we bark on the blogs about it then C&L, TPM, Daily Show etc. will pick it up. I dare them.

lolo

I don’t see how Snow is an improvement on previous Bush PR men. Snow is a gofer-turkey. I refuse to watch or listen to this man.

AZ Matt @ 40

No doubt this will make the Tillmans feel better.

Bush Said Sympathetic to Tillman Family

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: April 25, 2007
Filed at 4:36 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Bush hopes that someone is held responsible for the U.S. military’s mishandling of information about the death of former football star Pat Tillman in Afghanistan, the White House said Wednesday.

Bush did not learn about the unusual circumstances of the Army ranger’s death until after the soldier’s memorial service on May 3, 2004, said deputy press secretary Dana Perino.

…

LINK

Did the prez attend Tillman’s funeral? I don’t think so.

Rayne @ 41

Ed*ard Teller @ 39

It’s not Tony that’s playing games per se, ET. It’s Rove, with Tony’s permission. Rove’s trying to use the sympathy card to put up a social firewall between himself, POTUS and the media.

No doubt Rayne. When in doubt (read Low Poll Numbers) go for the sympathy vote. Let’s not forget this guy went from fox news to the W.H. if that doesn’t put his genuiness in question well then nothing will. He’s a shill, plain and simple irregardless of his illness. Keep it in perspective people (Not You Rayne)

Got an email from Larry Kissell, NC-08 in ‘08 we hope!

Rahm is attending a fundraiser for Kissell soon, too bad he couldn’t take this race seriously in ‘06. Kissell lost by only 300 votes. Wish the national party had been there for him.

Tony Snow’s cancer and his treatment should not be taken lightly. The first few days the press might take it easy but then it will be back to normal. Oh, forgot that’s easy too

Rayne @ 46

AZ Matt @ 40

Bush Said Sympathetic to Tillman Family

[snip]

Bush did not learn about the unusual circumstances of the Army ranger’s death until after the soldier’s memorial service on May 3, 2004, said deputy press secretary Dana Perino.

…

Um, Tillman passed nearly 3 years ago. Why the sudden need to make this particular point??

I call bullsh*t.

A good call. Pat Tillman was great propaganda for the Bushies.

Rayne @ 41

Ed*ard Teller @ 39

It’s not Tony that’s playing games per se, ET. It’s Rove, with Tony’s permission. Rove’s trying to use the sympathy card to put up a social firewall between himself, POTUS and the media.

I don’t disagree with that, Rayne, but I’m sure Snow is eager to be engaged spreading the usual GOP lies. He’ll be busy enough without having to be Rove’s poster boy in a cynical sympathy game. He might even push back if Rove assaults or attempts overtly to manipulate what remains of Snow’s sense of dignity and professionalism when he’s fighting for his life.

Bearpaw @45

Oh, c’mon Jane. A dKos straw poll? I’m all for whoopin’ up Reid, but that’s not exactly a meaningful number.

Jane did say “straw poll”, yes? Um-hum, I see that. And the last DKos strawpoll did a fairly decent job of taking the temperature of grassroots’/netroots’ sentiment, yes? I don’t remember hearing a lot of argument about the sentiment conveyed in the last several straw polls.

If you don’t like the point the lady and operator of this blog is making, perhaps you could call Reid’s office and ask how sentiment has been running — but that would include the sentiment of folks who are quite unlikely to vote for the man or support his party, probably not a reasonable benchmark.

NYT/Reuters

Cuomo testimony story on student loans.

“Our investigation has revealed an unholy alliance between lenders and many trusted institutions of higher education. Part of the reason the practices we have uncovered have been able to flourish nationwide over the past several years is because the U.S. Department of Education has been asleep at the switch.”

An Education Department spokeswoman had no immediate comment.

Prairie Sunshine @ 36

Ed*ard Teller @ 30

Josh Marshall commenting a few moments ago on the NYPost’s rewrite destruction of the AP Reid story Jane linked to above:

It gets better. I just heard back from the author, David Espo. He told me: “I didn’t write anything remotely like that. My name was on the story and I didn’t write it anything like the way it was printed.”

If the AP has any integrity, they will sue the b*stards.

It doesn’t. The AP regularly trashes Pelosi, Reid, Edwards, ( fill in name of your favorite Democrat) .
Just look at their coverage of Pelosi’s trip to the Middle East a few weeks ago.

CNN Mary Snow w/Blitzed giving many minutes to Guiliani’s attacks…Dem responses, not so much.

Let’s see. Republicans…the party of “okay, now you’ve covered your ass.” Or this gem, “no one could have anticipated…”

Or, in an executive decision that boggles the mind, Guiliani blocks his public safety divisions from communicating with each other…and puts his task force in the WTC after it was already attacked…and has so many sexual hi-jinks going on between himself and his BFF Kerik they must be stuporfied…

That Republican offense? Yeah, it’s offensive all right.

They don’t like Henry using the stick, either. Latest GOP talking point on Waxman’s DOJ hearings, the hearings to nowhere…..

AZ Matt @ 40
Rayne @ 47

Perino actually made a very carefully worded statement to the effect that she was not aware that Bush knew anything about the Tillman situation being bogus before the family. Presumptive indicia of prevarication.

She’s actually getting a bit better at spouting bullsh*t. All the practice is paying off.

I called Reid’s office today, just to say I agree that the war is lost and to encourage Harry to never back down from that statement.

And damn, he cracked me up with his “Cheney the attack dog with the 9% approval rating” stuff. Ouch.
Heh, heh.

Keep it up Harry - We want more of this!!

Ed*ard Teller @ 60

They don’t like Henry using the stick, either. Latest GOP talking point on Waxman’s DOJ hearings, the hearings to nowhere…..

Ed*ard Teller @ 60

They don’t like Henry using the stick, either. Latest GOP talking point on Waxman’s DOJ hearings, the hearings to nowhere…..

Hearings to nowhere alright, they can’t get anywhere anymore with Waxman, Leahy, and Schumer…

You play, you pay.

OT — sorry, but I think I have to point this out, completely pisses me off even if I am an investor.

CNBC’s Larry “so far to the right he supports slavery” Kudlow is crowing, making me absolutely nauseous about the performance of the market, going on and on about this being the biggest uninterrupted market expansion since the 1950’s-60’s. I don’t know what kind of crack this ugly old dork is cramming in his bodily orifices, but his glee at the market’s strong uptick is absolutely disgusting.

He had a gentleman on who said that corporations’ profitability came at the expense of labor, and that labor would firm and push back — but Kudlow treated the guy like crap and wiped his verbal shoes on him, following up with a couple of his fellow bulls.

If you have cable, you really do need to spend some time watching Kudlow; you need to see the world through the lenses of the top 5% of the world, to realize that they really, REALLY don’t give a sh*t about you or anybody else, only their profits. And as long as the money keeps pouring in due to Kudlow’s happily endorsed low corporate tax rate, they will continue to think that everything in the world is just hunky-dory.

Meanwhile, the majority of Americans have had to tighten their belts this past couple weeks as gasoline prices went back up. And some of us who do have assets in the market know that some of this run-up is because the money has no where else to go right now; when interest rates were low, they put money in real estate. And now that doesn’t work, so they’re running up the market. What a crock, totally disconnected from reality…

Rayne 65,

So, so true.

Tap Duncan and Raven - In case you’re here now, I posted a message for you at 2:08 pm on the previous thread.

Just from the peanut gallery, but in spite of his willingness or ability to use it, the outlook for Tony Snow, chemo or not, is pretty bad. He’s buying months with the treatment, IMHO, and will decline onscreen, without having to hold up any cards at all. I’m sorry that he believes that shilling for the Bush Administration is a useful way to spend his end of life; I’d be on a plane to Bora Bora.

namaste

Another department under Bush cronyism

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04.....ref=slogin

just heard on c-span….

debate on iraq war/occupation supplemental spending bill is expected to begin on the house floor in 1 to 1.25 hours (6:45-7pm ET).

some bill info here (with thanks to TiredFed for figuring it out with me).

WRT Iraq Accountability Bill, i.e. the Supplemental, I called my Congresswoman and urged her to vote for it.

When the Idiot-in-Chief vetos it, I guess I’ll be calling to try to get her to vote to over-ride…

Thank you for actually representing the American public, Mr. Reid…and Mr Kucinich…
I understand John Edwards is going to call for the firing of Karl Rove tomorrow night.
Most things break, said Yeats. It’s taken much too long but I think that this administration is finally about to break into teeny, tiny pieces.

[just delurking long enough to wave hello to all the regulars]
((hello))

George break it down!
On HuffPo

Bush Breaks It Down At Malaria Awareness Event

Boogie Down

cathy @ 69

Another department under Bush cronyism

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04.....ref=slogin

Holy sh*t!!! That popcorn lung, destroying, artifical flavoring is still legal???? It’s worse that smoking!!!!!!

zennurse @ 68

Just from the peanut gallery, but in spite of his willingness or ability to use it, the outlook for Tony Snow, chemo or not, is pretty bad. He’s buying months with the treatment, IMHO, and will decline onscreen, without having to hold up any cards at all. I’m sorry that he believes that shilling for the Bush Administration is a useful way to spend his end of life; I’d be on a plane to Bora Bora.

namaste

Agreed, zen (good to see you, btw). I try to keep in mind that he must believe in what he’s doing, but I just can’t reconcile how a human can delude themselves into thinking that cheerleading and manipulating the media for an administration that is worse than Nixon’s is somehow noble.

Rayne @ 56

Bearpaw @45

Oh, c’mon Jane. A dKos straw poll? I’m all for whoopin’ up Reid, but that’s not exactly a meaningful number.

Jane did say “straw poll”, yes? Um-hum, I see that. And the last DKos strawpoll did a fairly decent job of taking the temperature of grassroots’/netroots’ sentiment, yes? I don’t remember hearing a lot of argument about the sentiment conveyed in the last several straw polls.

If you don’t like the point the lady and operator of this blog is making, perhaps you could call Reid’s office and ask how sentiment has been running — but that would include the sentiment of folks who are quite unlikely to vote for the man or support his party, probably not a reasonable benchmark.

Are we getting overly thin-skinned? It seems that, lately, there have been an awful lot of smack-downs if anyone even slightly disagrees with the post.

John Edwards calls for Rove to be fired, Gozales to resign

http://www.wxii12.com/politics.....etail.html

“The President should demand that Alberto Gonzales resign, and he should fire Karl Rove. They have turned the Department of Justice into the Department of Political Payback. In doing so, they deny every American the legitimate expectation that justice will be administered without reference to partisan considerations,” Edwards said in a prepared statement.

It is becoming obvious that the GOP is completely falling apart. Yeah! Rudy is spouting talking points from 2003. And the RNC is running an attack ad on Sen. Harkin a war vet who is a vocal critic of the War. I guess the RNC did not see the latest Iowa poll of Republican voters which shows 58% of the GOP voters in Iowa favor a withdrawal from Iraq within 6 months. It is like these folks are in a dis-associative state.

Brisingamen @ 71

WRT Iraq Accountability Bill, i.e. the Supplemental, I called my Congresswoman and urged her to vote for it.

When the Idiot-in-Chief vetos it, I guess I’ll be calling to try to get her to vote to over-ride…

i hope bush does veto - ‘cuz otherwise, as far as i can tell… bush will have his endless war, as this bill does not seem to have a binding withdrawal timeline…

i wonder if harry reid’s recent rhetorical challengs have been done in order to push bush’s buttons until he is so pissed off he will veto the bill no matter what.

if that’s the case - then… go harry! it’s good to see him join nancy pelosi in this.

Pelosi Statement Following Her Briefing With General Petraeus

LINK

April 25th, 2007 by Office of the Speaker
Speaker Pelosi released the following statement on her briefing yesterday with General David Petraeus:

General Petraeus and I had a very informative half-hour discussion yesterday, which included the assessment of the situation in Iraq that he will share with other House Members today. I appreciated his report and his responses to my questions on security and political issues in Iraq. We share a conviction that the war in Iraq will not be resolved militarily, and I look forward to future reports from him on the effects of President Bush’s escalation plan.

solai @ 77

Are we getting overly thin-skinned? It seems that, lately, there have been an awful lot of smack-downs if anyone even slightly disagrees with the post.

Solai — there’s disagreement, and then there’s rudeness. This is Jane’s house, after all; one does not come in and say, “The drapes reek.” Bad form, whether in a blog or in real life.

BobbyG @
6

My most recent rant to my paper:
______

President Bush now excoriates “politicians in Washington who are substituting their own judgment for that of our generals in Iraq.”

Had the War President/Decider taken his own advice at the outset of his inexorably failing Iraq misadventure, things might have turned out favorably. The “politicians in Washington” comprising his own inner circle of invasion architects, however, had no problem in 2003 “substituting their own judgment for that of our generals.” The tragic and criminally incompetent net result is plain for all to see.

The problem is the one politician in Washington (George W. Bush) who doesn’t listen to our generals, and instead substitutes his own judgment by firing the generals who disagree with him until he finds one who will say “yes” to his daffy ideas.

Bob in HI

Rayne @ 65

OT — sorry, but I think I have to point this out, completely pisses me off even if I am an investor.

CNBC’s Larry “so far to the right he supports slavery” Kudlow is crowing, making me absolutely nauseous about the performance of the market, going on and on about this being the biggest uninterrupted market expansion since the 1950’s-60’s. I don’t know what kind of crack this ugly old dork is cramming in his bodily orifices, but his glee at the market’s strong uptick is absolutely disgusting.

He had a gentleman on who said that corporations’ profitability came at the expense of labor, and that labor would firm and push back — but Kudlow treated the guy like crap and wiped his verbal shoes on him, following up with a couple of his fellow bulls.

If you have cable, you really do need to spend some time watching Kudlow; you need to see the world through the lenses of the top 5% of the world, to realize that they really, REALLY don’t give a sh*t about you or anybody else, only their profits. And as long as the money keeps pouring in due to Kudlow’s happily endorsed low corporate tax rate, they will continue to think that everything in the world is just hunky-dory.

Meanwhile, the majority of Americans have had to tighten their belts this past couple weeks as gasoline prices went back up. And some of us who do have assets in the market know that some of this run-up is because the money has no where else to go right now; when interest rates were low, they put money in real estate. And now that doesn’t work, so they’re running up the market. What a crock, totally disconnected from reality…

Two reality checks for Kudlow

Here and here

Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 67

Tap Duncan and Raven - In case you’re here now, I posted a message for you at 2:08 pm on the previous thread.

I am here, got that link, and MANY THANKS, Tap

Selise, I’m praying that Reid sticks to his guns and the next bill will be even more restrictive.

AFAIC Congress could just abandon the supplemental funding, which would allow the Defense Dept. to run out of funds even faster!

Instead of “what if they gave a war and nobody came” we’d have “what if they gave a war and no one was willing to pay for it?”

Hmmm…. Petreus said he doesn’t want to get into the minefield of legislative matters….and Pelosi says they share a conviction that the war cannot be won militarily…and, he spoke to Granny first!

Sounds promising to me.

Rayne @ 76

zennurse @ 68

Just from the peanut gallery, but in spite of his willingness or ability to use it, the outlook for Tony Snow, chemo or not, is pretty bad. He’s buying months with the treatment, IMHO, and will decline onscreen, without having to hold up any cards at all. I’m sorry that he believes that shilling for the Bush Administration is a useful way to spend his end of life; I’d be on a plane to Bora Bora.

namaste

Agreed, zen (good to see you, btw). I try to keep in mind that he must believe in what he’s doing, but I just can’t reconcile how a human can delude themselves into thinking that cheerleading and manipulating the media for an administration that is worse than Nixon’s is somehow noble.

Hi Rayne, back atcha, sweetie, good to be seen. from where I sit, as a hospice nurse, I guess what I’m saying is that I wish someone would sit him down and say, What is it you want to do with this life? So many times we see folks who are going to “do battle” or “fight back” and are surrounded by others who want them to do just that. It totally annoys me because in my experience, a lot of them are just really tired and want to let go, screw treatment and looking strong. Everyone isn’t Lance Armstrong and they shouldn’t be expected to be, y’know. I can’t even imagine the messages coming at him from THIS White House.

editorializing, sorry, but geez louise, it’s the guy’s life, and you know Dim Son will use it for all he’s worth. Yuk.

Appologies if this has already been discussed- Imus’s replacement for a week.

http://noquarter.typepad.com/m.....mille.html

Rayne @ 82

solai @ 77

Are we getting overly thin-skinned? It seems that, lately, there have been an awful lot of smack-downs if anyone even slightly disagrees with the post.

Solai — there’s disagreement, and then there’s rudeness. This is Jane’s house, after all; one does not come in and say, “The drapes reek.” Bad form, whether in a blog or in real life.

What I’ve always loved about this site is that one can voice their opinion and it is respected. I’m not speaking of Trolls, of course, just honest progressives who may not always agree. I would hate to see it made into something where we could not disagree with the hosts.
And, besides, all the hosts are highly intelligent, accomplished individuals. I’m sure they can take an alternate opinion, or a slight tease.

oversight, I love you; overreach, I love you not; oversight, I love you; overreach, I love you not;
oversight, I love you; overreach, I love you not; oversight, I love you; overreach, I love you not;
oversight, I love you!

John in Sacremento @ 84

Reality and Larry Kudlow rarely exist in the same dimension.

cathy @ 89

Appologies if this has already been discussed- Imus’s replacement for a week.

http://noquarter.typepad.com/m.....mille.html

This is fantastic news. I might have to plug in the TV and get cable..

Brisingamen @ 86

Selise, I’m praying that Reid sticks to his guns and the next bill will be even more restrictive.

AFAIC Congress could just abandon the supplemental funding, which would allow the Defense Dept. to run out of funds even faster!

Instead of “what if they gave a war and nobody came” we’d have “what if they gave a war and no one was willing to pay for it?”

reid has got a very difficult job - much worse that the situation in the house.

there are 50 dems in the senate (including sanders but not lieberman)… and with johnson out… IF he can hold the caucus together, he only has 49 votes. hagel and smith gave him 51 votes for the non-binding bill. he can only afford to lose one vote to pass this bill.

gotta peel away some more of the republicans - hopefully the moveon mobilization will help with that, eventually.

LS @ 91

oversight, I love you; overreach, I love you not; oversight, I love you; overreach, I love you not;
oversight, I love you; overreach, I love you not; oversight, I love you; overreach, I love you not;
oversight, I love you!

The only ones claiming overreach are the reich-wingers who do NOT want any oversight.

dakine01 @ 95

LS @ 91

oversight, I love you; overreach, I love you not; oversight, I love you; overreach, I love you not;
oversight, I love you; overreach, I love you not; oversight, I love you; overreach, I love you not;
oversight, I love you!

The only ones claiming overreach are the reich-wingers who do NOT want any oversight.

Today, Dana Perino made the comparison..this is a snark on her comparison.

on c-span NOW - debate on iraq war/occupation supplemental funding conference report.

…to be followed by vote

Rayne @ 65

OT — sorry, but I think I have to point this out, completely pisses me off even if I am an investor.

CNBC’s Larry “so far to the right he supports slavery” Kudlow is crowing, making me absolutely nauseous about the performance of the market, going on and on about this being the biggest uninterrupted market expansion since the 1950’s-60’s. I don’t know what kind of crack this ugly old dork is cramming in his bodily orifices, but his glee at the market’s strong uptick is absolutely disgusting.

He had a gentleman on who said that corporations’ profitability came at the expense of labor, and that labor would firm and push back — but Kudlow treated the guy like crap and wiped his verbal shoes on him, following up with a couple of his fellow bulls.

If you have cable, you really do need to spend some time watching Kudlow; you need to see the world through the lenses of the top 5% of the world, to realize that they really, REALLY don’t give a sh*t about you or anybody else, only their profits. And as long as the money keeps pouring in due to Kudlow’s happily endorsed low corporate tax rate, they will continue to think that everything in the world is just hunky-dory.

Meanwhile, the majority of Americans have had to tighten their belts this past couple weeks as gasoline prices went back up. And some of us who do have assets in the market know that some of this run-up is because the money has no where else to go right now; when interest rates were low, they put money in real estate. And now that doesn’t work, so they’re running up the market. What a crock, totally disconnected from reality…

I listened to CNBC this AM and Alan Murray, a Wall Street journal person and Big Time Bush cheerleader made this point, “the Dow Jones Industrial Average does in no way reflect the health of the U.S. economy, but since this is all a global economy, it reflects a European and Asian healthy economy” I don’t think he was thinking too carefully how this sounded. He is such a Bush guy that PomPoms would be in order. But sometimes the truth slips out. But this statement can be used to refute how good the Bush economy is when we all know it is teetering.

zennurse @ 88 says:

editorializing, sorry, but geez louise, it’s the guy’s life, and you know Dim Son will use it for all he’s worth. Yuk.

Kinda like he’s used the 3300 US troops and the god knows how many Iraqis. Life is meaningless to the Chimpenfuhrer. Except for his own of course.

Wow. I just watched that Malkin cheerleader video. That is quite possibly the lamest thing I have ever seen, and I’ve sifted through a *lot* of YouTube.

LS @ 96

dakine01 @ 95

LS @ 91

The only ones claiming overreach are the reich-wingers who do NOT want any oversight.

Today, Dana Perino made the comparison..this is a snark on her comparison.

Since my blood pressure doesn’t stand up to watching the kool-aid drinkers, I stand corrected.

Rayne @ 82

solai @ 77

Are we getting overly thin-skinned? It seems that, lately, there have been an awful lot of smack-downs if anyone even slightly disagrees with the post.

Solai — there’s disagreement, and then there’s rudeness. This is Jane’s house, after all; one does not come in and say, “The drapes reek.” Bad form, whether in a blog or in real life.

Rayne, not to offend, but if MY drapes reek, I sure hope someone will tell me so I can correct the situation. Then again, I tend to be far too thick skinned.

I have mini-blinds.

I know this is off point but apparently George Tenet, perhaps the worst hack of all time, is now set to promote his book. This endless parade of jerks, Cheney, Libby, Gore, the Clintons, Bushes, Kerry reflects the level of systemic failure I felt in the Vietnam era. But then the opposition was so clear (and I am not including Kerry who was always a gadfly) and the press was making an effort, even electronic media before the era of Disney and Viacom. It really will go down that the Vietnam War so emasculated and disabled my generation that we were only destined to have the petty such as the Clintons and their appointee, George Tenet and Bush. If you ever watch a re-run of Gore “debating” Bush it is just incredible and that is where that election was lost, not “stolen”.

Fox News has Rahm Emanual reading his speach. (hum….not very well) I haven’t seen it anywhere else. They called it a ‘he said she said’ partisan fight. Between Rahm and DAna Snows replacement. Brit Hume announced Tony Snow coming back and started coughing and choking. Very strange that channel, gotta bleach eyes……

dakine01 101, :}

Eli @ 103

I have mini-blinds.

707

selise @ 97

on c-span NOW - debate on iraq war/occupation supplemental funding conference report.

…to be followed by vote

David Dreir all dressed up and preening

Eli @ 103

I have mini-blinds.

and here I was, admiring your non-blinding resolution.

Can I ask an OT question for the lawyers and government wonks?

What is the most extreme penalty outcome of a congressional investigation? Can a congressional committee send someone to prison, or refer their case to a prosecutor, or just remove them from their position?

To use a less-than-flattering analogy, what will Waxman or Leahy do with the car if they manage to catch it?

I did some searches, but I couldn’t find the right combination of terms to get a good answer.

Eli:

Flogging.
Preferably with a cane.

lolo @ 108

selise @ 97

on c-span NOW - debate on iraq war/occupation supplemental funding conference report.

…to be followed by vote

David Dreir all dressed up and preening

the more the Rs claim this bill represents a horrible defeat, the more bush will be pressed to veto.

good.

zennurse, what a pleasure to hear from you again. I hope you are well. I always greatly appreciate your commentary.

martha

zennurse @ 93

cathy @ 89

Appologies if this has already been discussed- Imus’s replacement for a week.

noquarter

This is fantastic news. I might have to plug in the TV and get cable..

Oh Zennurse!!

So good to hear from you!!!

Selise 112, and the Dems should send the bill back with a few word changes everyday from now on…everyday. Squeaky doors get oiled.

Eli @ 110

I think they have to refer the criminal stuff elsewhere. If the offender is in Congress, they can be expelled, but it isn’t easy.

(If Big Hank or Leahy catch that car, it’s going to come to a screeching halt. They’re tenacious.)

Eli @ 110

Can I ask an OT question for the lawyers and government wonks?

What is the most extreme penalty outcome of a congressional investigation? Can a congressional committee send someone to prison, or refer their case to a prosecutor, or just remove them from their position?

To use a less-than-flattering analogy, what will Waxman or Leahy do with the car if they manage to catch it?

Yes, if a Congressional investigation indicated “high crimes [or] misdemeanors” involving a government official, that would enable impeachment of that official, if enough of Congress were so inclined.

Yes, if a Congressional investigation turns up evidence of criminal wrongdoing, Congress can refer that evidence to the Justice Department, and request that a criminal investigation be opened. Congress can’t prosecute anyone except its own and the only punishment is expulsion, something that has happened very, very rarely.

European Parliament votes for Wolfowitz to resign. In “an extraordinary move in diplomatic terms,” the European Parliament voted 332-251 to call on the E.U. Presidency and the U.S. government to push for World Bank President Paul Wolfowitz’s resignation. 6:10 pm

From Think Progress

jim mcgovern up now… (my rep)

selise @ 112 says:

the more the Rs claim this bill represents a horrible defeat, the more bush will be pressed to veto.

good.

And when he does, then the fallback of bringing it back up every 60 days (per Murtha) comes into play. And the Rs can keep on showing how much they hate the troops.

partially on topic, here. . .

well. . . FINALLY!

youtube finally finished
processing my video-mash-up
of all the subpoenas, immunity
grants and other assorted and
sundry congressional goodness
of this morning — and, set to a sound-
track to boot! all in a tight 2:30
package — it is free for public use;
just no resale for a profit (like THAT
will EVER be a problem! hah!)

go ahead — you KNOW you want to.

check it out.

selise @ 119

jim mcgovern up now… (my rep)

You lucky. (with Lamar Smith as mine) :}(

Dee @ 102

Rayne, not to offend, but if MY drapes reek, I sure hope someone will tell me so I can correct the situation. Then again, I tend to be far too thick skinned.

You may hope that, and perhaps your closest friends would know that and oblige you, but in the absence of a strong and obvious friendship, an infrequent or first-time guest entering your house would be completely out of order to say, “Your drapes suck.”

It would not be out of order to say, “I personally prefer damask over raw silk,” if you do not know the host well, don’t speak with them frequently, and are in their house.

In your own house, burn the drapes for all I care.

Eli @ 103

I have mini-blinds.

You might be able to get corrective glasses to help.

Thanks, montag and PJ! So, bottom line, if Rove or anyone else gets busted by Waxman or Leahy, they will likely face criminal prosecution.

Ex-cellent…

*steeples fingers*

dakine01 @ 120

selise @ 112 says:

the more the Rs claim this bill represents a horrible defeat, the more bush will be pressed to veto.

good.

And when he does, then the fallback of bringing it back up every 60 days (per Murtha) comes into play. And the Rs can keep on showing how much they hate the troops.

that works for me.

my nightmare is that bush will sign this bill.

Rep Ros-Lehtinen up now. I thought all she cared about was Castro and Cuba?

egregious @ 124

Eli @ 103

I have mini-blinds.

You might be able to get corrective glasses to help.

I did, but I lost them between the floorboards.

Eli @ 125

Thanks, montag and PJ! So, bottom line, if Rove or anyone else gets busted by Waxman or Leahy, they will likely face criminal prosecution.

Ex-cellent…

*steeples fingers*

Except remember who’s the DC USA and AG makes it not so good.

Eli @ 110

Can I ask an OT question for the lawyers and government wonks?

What is the most extreme penalty outcome of a congressional investigation? Can a congressional committee send someone to prison, or refer their case to a prosecutor, or just remove them from their position?

To use a less-than-flattering analogy, what will Waxman or Leahy do with the car if they manage to catch it?

I did some searches, but I couldn’t find the right combination of terms to get a good answer.

if a pattern of willful violations
of the hatch act is established — say,
one orchestrated by karl rove — he
may be charged in the u.s. district
court for the DC district with a felony.

that is no joke — and it won’t be
alberto gonzales making the charging
decisions — count on that.

call patrick fitzgerald. see if he’d
like to summer in DC this year!

he he!

Sadly disappointed that Reid has dropped down to 88%…. Lets get those numbers up!

http://americablog.blogspot.co.....-reid.html

Far-right Republican Senator Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma is so incensed that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said publicly that George Bush has lost the Iraq war that Inhofe is now demanding that Reid be forced out of office for his “un-American” crimes.

Asked if the Nevada Democrat should resign from his leadership position because of his comments, Inhofe said: “I think it’s more serious than that. I think there should be a recall . . . for saying something as un-American as that.”

Ok… how do we counter these attacks?

Brisingamen @ 86

Selise, I’m praying that Reid sticks to his guns and the next bill will be even more restrictive.

AFAIC Congress could just abandon the supplemental funding, which would allow the Defense Dept. to run out of funds even faster!

Instead of “what if they gave a war and nobody came” we’d have “what if they gave a war and no one was willing to pay for it?”

The question everyone is asking is what is the endgame when the supplemental is inevitably vetoed by the Decider? I recall mention of an an alternative bill that Reid has in store with no deadlines for withdrawal, but that funds operations only through October. This seems shrewd to me. Just give them the money in sips. By October, even Pat Buchanan says, we will know if the Debacle Surge has succeeded.
Maybe Harry is smart enough not to get into a fight that he has not thought of a way to win, unlike the Boy King, for example.

dakine01 @ 129

Except remember who’s the DC USA and AG makes it not so good.

Well, given the current context, it kinda puts them in a tight spot, doesn’t it?

http://thenexthurrah.typepad.c.....serva.html

If One Conservative Says It, It’s Spin; If Two, It’s a Talking Pointby emptywheel

nolo @ 121

partially on topic, here. . .

well. . . FINALLY!

youtube finally finished
processing my video-mash-up
of all the subpoenas, immunity
grants and other assorted and
sundry congressional goodness
of this morning — and, set to a sound-
track to boot! all in a tight 2:30
package — it is free for public use;
just no resale for a profit (like THAT
will EVER be a problem! hah!)

go ahead — you KNOW you want to.

check it out.

Cool NOLO!!!!

selise @ 126 says:

that works for me.

my nightmare is that bush will sign this bill.

And be label’d a flip-flopper who cut n run? Not a chance of the snowball in hell.

Thank you, FDLers, for making me rofl sometimes even when things are grim.

lolo @ 134

http://thenexthurrah.typepad.c.....serva.html

If One Conservative Says It, It’s Spin; If Two, It’s a Talking Pointby emptywheel

Huh. I always figured it was just lies no matter how many of them said it.

How can Scott Bloch afford a million dollar home in Virginia when his wife doesn’t even work????

http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....74_pf.html

Look down to Fairfax City…Moonstone Drive!

Was this guy a wealthy corporate lawyer who took a massive pay cut to work for Bush??? Something stinks here!

Eli @ 133

dakine01 @ 129

Except remember who’s the DC USA and AG makes it not so good.

Well, given the current context, it kinda puts them in a tight spot, doesn’t it?

Actually, it would show even the most devout kool-aid drinkers that there IS something to what the Ds have been saying. Not that they’ll listen…

I noticed that Reid got the Passion for Peace, for some reason, right before the Spring break. I feared it might die done in his heart, but fortunately, it hasn’t. Maybe it’s that he and Pelosi feed off each other.

Whatever, I really hope he and Pelosi continue to press forward. The Peaceful are behind them.

cinnamonape @ 139

How can Scott Bloch afford a million dollar home in Virginia when his wife doesn’t even work????

http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....74_pf.html

Look down to Fairfax City…Moonstone Drive!

Was this guy a wealthy corporate lawyer who took a massive pay cut to work for Bush??? Something stinks here!

If you showed me a high-ranking Bushie who *wasn’t* a millionaire, I’d faint dead away.

Rayne,

All the gloating about the stock market is rubbish. When compared with almost every other index the market is in a downturn.

The uber rich always always always make out… but they got some special perks from this crowd.

Read this:

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

katymine @ 131

Sadly disappointed that Reid has dropped down to 88%…. Lets get those numbers up!

http://americablog.blogspot.co.....-reid.html

Far-right Republican Senator Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma is so incensed that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said publicly that George Bush has lost the Iraq war that Inhofe is now demanding that Reid be forced out of office for his “un-American” crimes.

Asked if the Nevada Democrat should resign from his leadership position because of his comments, Inhofe said: “I think it’s more serious than that. I think there should be a recall . . . for saying something as un-American as that.”

Ok… how do we counter these attacks?

Well, quote Reid in full context for one thing.

dakine01 @ 140

Actually, it would show even the most devout kool-aid drinkers that there IS something to what the Ds have been saying. Not that they’ll listen…

Exactly. Which is an angle I’m hoping to get into in tonight’s post. (Which was why I was asking the question, so I wouldn’t make a total ass of myself outside of this one comments thread…)

cinnamonape @ 139

How can Scott Bloch afford a million dollar home in Virginia when his wife doesn’t even work????

http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....74_pf.html

Look down to Fairfax City…Moonstone Drive!

Was this guy a wealthy corporate lawyer who took a massive pay cut to work for Bush??? Something stinks here!

You never know, could be inheritance money or something..but well worth a sniffing expedition.

Oh. My. DOG! Burton just said 9/11 was worse than Pearl ef’fin Harbor!

Burton saying that if we leave Iraq, al Qaeda will have base of operations to come to US. I guess he hasn’t heard of the Afghanistan/Pakistan border area where al Qaeda has a very comfortable base of operations. Jeebus H.

We do love him for it. And Nancy Pelosi. And Henry Waxman. And John Murtha. All of them.

Jefferson would be proud. He would be standing side-by-side with them.

dakine01 @ 147

Oh. My. DOG! Burton just said 9/11 was worse than Pearl ef’fin Harbor!

Numerically, he is actually correct. But a sovereign nation sending a whole squadron of planes to blow up our Pacific fleet is kind of a big deal.

Reid’s a fighter. It’s all about the fight now.

Soon to be famous last words… “Et tu, Enzi”

BURTON is an UNBELIEVABLE IDIOT!

Mr. Reid’s response about Cheney: “I’m not going to get into a name-calling match with somebody who has a 9 percent approval rating,”

Give’em hell Harry

cinnamonape @ 139

How can Scott Bloch afford a million dollar home in Virginia when his wife doesn’t even work????

http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....74_pf.html

Look down to Fairfax City…Moonstone Drive!

Was this guy a wealthy corporate lawyer who took a massive pay cut to work for Bush??? Something stinks here!

Oh, what an excellent question!! Sounds a lot like some property Rove owns…

I see that the “Fairfax City” area is in Fairfax County; would the address be “XXXX Moonstone Drive, Fairfax VA”? Or another municipality?

And who is Trace Briarwood?

cinnamonape @ 139

How can Scott Bloch afford a million dollar home in Virginia when his wife doesn’t even work????

http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....74_pf.html

Look down to Fairfax City…Moonstone Drive!

Was this guy a wealthy corporate lawyer who took a massive pay cut to work for Bush??? Something stinks here!

Someone said on one of the blogs today that we will know if this investigation of Rove is real or a cover-up by the White House reaction.
If, all of a sudden, there is a smear campaign then we will know that Rove fears him.
On that note, I am happy to see this WaPo story.

dakine01 @ 148

Burton saying that if we leave Iraq, al Qaeda will have base of operations to come to US. I guess he hasn’t heard of the Afghanistan/Pakistan border area where al Qaeda has a very comfortable base of operations. Jeebus H.

trying to get my jaw off the floor.

insanity on the house floor… i know it’s there, and yet, i’m always left in shock.

solai @ 155

Someone said on one of the blogs today that we will know if this investigation of Rove is real or a cover-up by the White House reaction.
If, all of a sudden, there is a smear campaign then we will know that Rove fears him.
On that note, I am happy to see this WaPo story.

Someone very wise and perceptive, I think…

Tucker Carlson is making an ass of himself (no, sorry, he was already an ass) mocking the “whacko bloggers” who he says are dominating the John Edwards campaign.

I was waiting for a reason to change the channel…

dakine01 @ 148

Burton saying that if we leave Iraq, al Qaeda will have base of operations to come to US. I guess he hasn’t heard of the Afghanistan/Pakistan border area where al Qaeda has a very comfortable base of operations. Jeebus H.

Because Iraq would be the only failed state on the planet.

And, I might add, a failed state of our own making, regardless of whether we stay there or not.

selise @ 156

dakine01 @ 148

Burton saying that if we leave Iraq, al Qaeda will have base of operations to come to US. I guess he hasn’t heard of the Afghanistan/Pakistan border area where al Qaeda has a very comfortable base of operations. Jeebus H.

trying to get my jaw off the floor.

insanity on the house floor… i know it’s there, and yet, i’m always left in shock.

I shouldn’t be surprised given his gibberish during the subpoena hearings today but DAY-uhm.

dakine01 @ 147

Oh. My. DOG! Burton just said 9/11 was worse than Pearl ef’fin Harbor!

In one sense, he’s probably right. Most of the casualties at Pearl Harbor were military, while most on 9/11 were civilian, and the death toll for Pearl Harbor was several hundred fewer than on 9/11 (about 2800 vs. 2400).

The question is why he’s making that point. My guess is that, because the attack on Pearl Harbor was the germinating reason for U.S. entry into a world war, Burton wants us to think that what’s going on now is a world war (a specious assumption on several counts).

Rayne @ 154

And who is Trace Briarwood?

probably just the unsuspecting seller, unless there’s a Duke Cunningham thing going on.

neurophius @ 158

Tucker Carlson is making an ass of himself (no, sorry, he was already an ass) mocking the “whacko bloggers” who he says are dominating the John Edwards campaign.

I was waiting for a reason to change the channel…

Tucker’s another one of the idiots born on 3rd base thinkin’ he hit a triple. I figure he’d be joinin’ me in the breadlines if he actually had to work for a living.

Eli @
150

dakine01 @ 147

Oh. My. DOG! Burton just said 9/11 was worse than Pearl ef’fin Harbor!

Numerically, he is actually correct. But a sovereign nation sending a whole squadron of planes to blow up our Pacific fleet is kind of a big deal.

The difference is that Pearl Harbor was an Act of War, and 9/11 was a crime. You fight wars with planes and bombs and tanks ‘n’ stuff, and you fight crime with law enforcement and courts, not by bombing and occupying a country having nothing to do with said crime.

montag @ 161

dakine01 @ 147

Oh. My. DOG! Burton just said 9/11 was worse than Pearl ef’fin Harbor!

In one sense, he’s probably right. Most of the casualties at Pearl Harbor were military, while most on 9/11 were civilian, and the death toll for Pearl Harbor was several hundred fewer than on 9/11 (about 2800 vs. 2400).

The question is why he’s making that point. My guess is that, because the attack on Pearl Harbor was the germinating reason for U.S. entry into a world war, Burton wants us to think that what’s going on now is a world war (a specious assumption on several counts).

Given that 12/07/41 jumped us into a WORLD WAR that did not last as long as this idioicy, he might not want to take that comparison too far.

dakine01 @ 163

Tucker’s another one of the idiots born on 3rd base thinkin’ he hit a triple. I figure he’d be joinin’ me in the breadlines if he actually had to work for a living.

I’d kinda like to see a Republicans version of “The Simple Life”. You know, that godawful TV show where Paris Hilton and Nicole Ritchie repeatedly failed and screwed up at even the simplest jobs?

Rayne @ 154

And who is Trace Briarwood?

Whoever he is, with a name like that, he ought to be headlining the Chippendales. :)

Rayne @ 123

Dee @ 102

Rayne, not to offend, but if MY drapes reek, I sure hope someone will tell me so I can correct the situation. Then again, I tend to be far too thick skinned.

You may hope that, and perhaps your closest friends would know that and oblige you, but in the absence of a strong and obvious friendship, an infrequent or first-time guest entering your house would be completely out of order to say, “Your drapes suck.”

It would not be out of order to say, “I personally prefer damask over raw silk,” if you do not know the host well, don’t speak with them frequently, and are in their house.

In your own house, burn the drapes for all I care.

And don’t forget… It is gauche to scratch your false eyeball at the dinner table with the salad fork… ;-)

two beers @ 164

The difference is that Pearl Harbor was an Act of War, and 9/11 was a crime. You fight wars with planes and bombs and tanks ‘n’ stuff, and you fight crime with law enforcement and courts, not by bombing and occupying a country having nothing to do with said crime.

Well, that’s how *Democrats* fight crime. It’s very 9/10.

james moran up now - we need a policy worthy of our troops and their families.

TMB @ 168

And don’t forget… It is gauche to scratch your false eyeball at the dinner table with the salad fork… ;-)

But… why would you need to?

selise @ 170

james moran up now - we need a policy worthy of our troops and their families.

So far, so good…

I dropped Tucker long ago. His abandoning the “bowtie” says all that needs to be said. If you are a married man with children in your thirties and you have to make a production out of switching neckwear…… Your intellectual jib ain’t cutting it.

-GSD

P.S. The EU has voted no confidence in Comblicker-fowitz.

two beers @ 164 says:

The difference is that Pearl Harbor was an Act of War, and 9/11 was a crime. You fight wars with planes and bombs and tanks ‘n’ stuff, and you fight crime with law enforcement and courts, not by bombing and occupying a country having nothing to do with said crime.

Which is why the basic incompetence of this admin is on display. They wanted a target to lash out against afterr 9/11. They used Iraq because the neoconartists felt daddy bush didn’t do his job in ‘91.

The type of police effort needed here wasn’t something that would allow Rummy and the generals to fill the coffers of the MIC, so it wasn’t “sexy” enough.

phil gingrey - insanity back on the house floor: moveon and liberal extremists… speaker refuses to meet with petraeus…. give victory a chance…

Hi to Martha and egregious, and thank you. I had a sabbatical and am reentering slowly, great timing, no?

I’ll leave you with this link which says more in one photo than I can in a thousand words. All credit to the photographer, linked via BAGnews.

http://www.ninaberman.com/inde.....dir=marine

also, here’s Rahm’s speech in its entirety, not a barnburner, but it gets across his point.

http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.....ull_speech

(Oh, I’m so sorry, moderator, I totally forget how to do the shortcut, anyone? Beuller? Beuller? help out the newbie-again?)
and why is there strikeout in my name here??

I remember a Kos diary with all the crimes listed– does anyone have that link, I’d sure like to see it now…

so glad to be welcomed home. Thanks again.

If you saw the recent poll of Islamic nations and the results were overwhelmingly in agreement that the US is trying to damage Islam. Nations like Morocco and Turkey mind you.

The far, far right Michael Savage, Michael Ledeen, Dick Cheney wing is forcing America and the world into a “clash of civilizations”.

Dumb move.

Smart money says to keep those who hate you away from those who are ambivalent about you.

-GSD

katymine @
131

Sadly disappointed that Reid has dropped down to 88%…. Lets get those numbers up!

http://americablog.blogspot.co.....-reid.html

Far-right Republican Senator Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma is so incensed that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said publicly that George Bush has lost the Iraq war that Inhofe is now demanding that Reid be forced out of office for his “un-American” crimes.

Asked if the Nevada Democrat should resign from his leadership position because of his comments, Inhofe said: “I think it’s more serious than that. I think there should be a recall . . . for saying something as un-American as that.”

Ok… how do we counter these attacks?

“When did stating the truth, or even one’s opinion, become un-American?”

shelia jackson lee up - no white flag on this side of the aisle, no blank check.

GSD @ 177

If you saw the recent poll of Islamic nations and the results were overwhelmingly in agreement that the US is trying to damage Islam.

The far, far right Michael Savage, Michael Ledeen, Dick Cheney wing is forcing America and the world into a “clash of civilizations”.

Dumb move.

Smart money says to keep those who hate you away from those who are ambivalent about you.

-GSD

Casey Stengel on managing but appropos.

LS @ 135

nolo @ 121

partially on topic, here. . .

well. . . FINALLY!

youtube finally finished
processing my video-mash-up
of all the subpoenas, immunity
grants and other assorted and
sundry congressional goodness
of this morning — and, set to a sound-
track to boot! all in a tight 2:30
package — it is free for public use;
just no resale for a profit (like THAT
will EVER be a problem! hah!)

go ahead — you KNOW you want to.

check it out.

Cool NOLO!!!!

thanks — i’ve been cookin’ pixels,
again. . . i really ought’ah quit. . .

but. i. just. can’t.

punaise @ 162

Rayne @ 154

And who is Trace Briarwood?

probably just the unsuspecting seller, unless there’s a Duke Cunningham thing going on.

I should have asked, “who or what”, since “Trace Briarwood” could be a development. But preliminary scans show a single-family low-income housing development by the name of “Briarwood Trace” in Fairfax County. But there have been multiple sales of 800-plusK to 1-plus mil houses by “Trace Briarwood” to other families on Moonstone Drive; I highly doubt it’s a low-income development unless it’s by Kudlow’s standards.

Not finding what I’d like to see by “Trace Briarwood”…nor is Moonstone Drive coming up. Either a very new development not yet indexed (and that can take up to a year based on my personal experience) or it’s in a different municipality in the same county. Hmm.

Pat_AlexVA — you out there?

Oh, get serious, this site now shortens links automatically??? OMG we are the BIG TIME!!

yahoo, that’s cool.
xo

ps promise I’ll be smarter tomorrow, filled in for a broken-footed RN today and my zenhed is mush.

Go Reid, Impeach Bush. m’kay? mkay.

zennurse @ 176

I remember a Kos diary with all the crimes listed– does anyone have that link, I’d sure like to see it now…

don’t know the diary you’re refering to, but hugh is keeping a list of bush era scandals.

p.s. always a joy to see you here!

Zennurse!

-GSD

Oh zen!!!

I’m so glad to see you here. You are very sorely missed.

How are you? How are your patients? I have just come back from Russia trip #30 where we are seeing ever tinier patients, a lot of premies getting heart surgery now.

Please write us often, we miss you so much!!!!

zennurse - May I direct you to Hughs list of Busco scandals while we wait for others who have a link the kos link you requested?

enjoy

Hensarling of Dallas decrying PORK in the conference bill? Newly converted to fiscal responsibility I’m sure.

Now talking about meeting mothers of dead children.

Does this mean I owe selise a coke? *s*

Rayne @
182

punaise @ 162

Rayne @ 154

probably just the unsuspecting seller, unless there’s a Duke Cunningham thing going on.

I should have asked, “who or what”, since “Trace Briarwood” could be a development. But preliminary scans show a single-family low-income housing development by the name of “Briarwood Trace” in Fairfax County. But there have been multiple sales of 800-plusK to 1-plus mil houses by “Trace Briarwood” to other families on Moonstone Drive; I highly doubt it’s a low-income development unless it’s by Kudlow’s standards.

Not finding what I’d like to see by “Trace Briarwood”…nor is Moonstone Drive coming up. Either a very new development not yet indexed (and that can take up to a year based on my personal experience) or it’s in a different municipality in the same county. Hmm.

Pat_AlexVA — you out there?

If ya got an address, go to Zillow.com and enter. It will give a lot of basic info on the house including size, similar homes in area, taxes, etc.

Zennurse, are you referring to the notorious “Bloggerbitch” list that was going around a while ago on the blogs? That was a huge one, but I don’t have a copy. I’ll look for it.

selise @ 175

phil gingrey - insanity back on the house floor: moveon and liberal extremists… speaker refuses to meet with petraeus…. give victory a chance…

Semantics, semantics. How about some reality:

WASHINGTON, Apr. 24, 2007— As the House and Senate prepare to vote this week on the final conference report on the $124 billion troop funding bill — which would also mandate that U.S. combat troops begin withdrawing from Iraq on Oct. 1 at the latest — Gen. David Petraeus is scheduled to come to the Hill tomorrow to brief lawmakers on the progress of the recent troop escalation.

ABC News has learned, however, that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., will not attend the briefing.

“She can’t make the briefing tomorrow,” a Democratic aide told ABC News Tuesday evening. “But she spoke with the general via phone today at some length.”

A Pelosi aide said the speaker on Tuesday requested a one-on-one meeting with Petraeus but that could not be worked out. He said their phone conversation lasted 30 minutes.

If you can’t make a meeting, you can’t make it. I don’t know what her reasons are. But it seems that she has made an effort to deal with this guy.

Rayne @
123

Dee @ 102

Rayne, not to offend, but if MY drapes reek, I sure hope someone will tell me so I can correct the situation. Then again, I tend to be far too thick skinned.

You may hope that, and perhaps your closest friends would know that and oblige you, but in the absence of a strong and obvious friendship, an infrequent or first-time guest entering your house would be completely out of order to say, “Your drapes suck.”

It would not be out of order to say, “I personally prefer damask over raw silk,” if you do not know the host well, don’t speak with them frequently, and are in their house.

In your own house, burn the drapes for all I care.

Does every conversation have to include home improvement references? *g*
I feel it is fair to criticize, and to accept criticism, however Jane had mentioned that it was a straw poll, and DKos’s straw polls do merit consideration.
BTW, Jane & Christy, great chat with John Kerry this morning and thanks for editing any OT comments that might have distracted from the conversation.

And zen, don’t worry about the shortcut for links. New software shortens most of them, and for the rest here’s the formula:

You type:

[a href=”

the httpwww long thingie goes here

“]

short name here

[/a]

with the carat signs replacing [ and ]

Rayne @
154

cinnamonape @ 139

How can Scott Bloch afford a million dollar home in Virginia when his wife doesn’t even work????

wapo link

Look down to Fairfax City…Moonstone Drive!

Was this guy a wealthy corporate lawyer who took a massive pay cut to work for Bush??? Something stinks here!

Oh, what an excellent question!! Sounds a lot like some property Rove owns…

I see that the “Fairfax City” area is in Fairfax County; would the address be “9156 Moonstone Drive, Fairfax VA”? Or another municipality?

And who is Trace Briarwood?

Maybe a realtor? The place seems to once have been owned by a lawyer named Howard Schmuckler.

sphsalumn.com link

dakine01 @ 188

Hensarling of Dallas decrying PORK in the conference bill? Newly converted to fiscal responsibility I’m sure.

Now talking about meeting mothers of dead children.

I have spoken to many mothers of dead children where the cause is unpreventable, where we have done our best to save them thru surgery.

Hard to imagine where the cause is our country’s need for power over their oil.

Rayne - hmmm, indeed. so much for my “innocent bystander” theory.

leftdcin72 @ 104

I know this is off point but apparently George Tenet, perhaps the worst hack of all time, is now set to promote his book. This endless parade of jerks, Cheney, Libby, Gore, the Clintons, Bushes, Kerry reflects the level of systemic failure I felt in the Vietnam era. But then the opposition was so clear (and I am not including Kerry who was always a gadfly) and the press was making an effort, even electronic media before the era of Disney and Viacom. It really will go down that the Vietnam War so emasculated and disabled my generation that we were only destined to have the petty such as the Clintons and their appointee, George Tenet and Bush. If you ever watch a re-run of Gore “debating” Bush it is just incredible and that is where that election was lost, not “stolen”.

my bold
I totally agree. It’s time for the 50-60 year-olds to re-enable ourselves!

katymine @ 131

Far-right Republican Senator Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma is so incensed that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said publicly that George Bush has lost the Iraq war that Inhofe is now demanding that Reid be forced out of office for his “un-American” crimes.

Asked if the Nevada Democrat should resign from his leadership position because of his comments, Inhofe said: “I think it’s more serious than that. I think there should be a recall . . . for saying something as un-American as that.”

Ok… how do we counter these attacks?

From someone like Inhofe? Probably best to ignore them, because the only reply that can be made that’s truthful is that Inhofe has the ethics of a cockroach and the brains of a doorknob.

This is the sort of thing that simply reduces to contradiction. Best, rather, to just build support for whatever most upsets Inhofe–if he doesn’t like it, you can be rather sure you’re on the right track. :)

Eureka Springs @ 189

Does this mean I owe selise a coke? *s*

hehe. i don’t think so… i don’t drink coke anymore. coke is the drink of the death squads.

p.s. hugh is up to 155 on his list! as he has said, the forces of evil and stupidity have been busy.

FYI, new thread

Petrocelli @ 193

Does every conversation have to include home improvement references? *g*
I feel it is fair to criticize, and to accept criticism, however Jane had mentioned that it was a straw poll, and DKos’s straw polls do merit consideration.

Straw drapes suck.

Petrocelli @ 193

Does every conversation have to include home improvement references? *g*
I feel it is fair to criticize, and to accept criticism, however Jane had mentioned that it was a straw poll, and DKos’s straw polls do merit consideration.

You’ve been here long enough to realize that my comments rarely make reference to home improvements. Lisa Williams, long-time blogger, used a living room metaphor to outline the behavior she expected from visitors to her blog; do not treat the blog except as you would her living room. Hence the reference to drapes.

And it’s one thing to object to the use of DKos straw polls if 1) one were polite about it, a la living room behavior, and 2) if one believed that the host were using the straw polls as an objective point of reference or benchmark. But Jane’s use of the phrase “straw poll” in her post makes it clear that she views the DKos poll as a weather vane, only an indicator of the general direction of the wind, not a barometer of the actual, measurable sentiment.

dakine01 @ 190

If ya got an address, go to Zillow.com and enter. It will give a lot of basic info on the house including size, similar homes in area, taxes, etc.

Mahalo — but I’m still struggling with the municipality. I get a Moonstone Dr. in Virginia Beach, but not in Fairfax City, or Alexandria. I’ll try Zillow once I narrow down the city/town.

Eli @ 202

Petrocelli @ 193

Does every conversation have to include home improvement references? *g*
I feel it is fair to criticize, and to accept criticism, however Jane had mentioned that it was a straw poll, and DKos’s straw polls do merit consideration.

Straw drapes suck.

said Jane Curtin.

Eli @ 202

Straw drapes suck.

You realize, of course, as a frontpager, you just dissed your own drapes.

Jus’ sayin’. ;-)

Tap Duncan @
46

Well he does have the best cancer doctors in the country working on him, but what about the rest of us?

Well I’ve got to tell you, with a full treatment under my belt and now on to living as a survivor, most oncologists stay on top of new developments, trials, and what’s happening at the local teaching hospitals, research centers, and NCI cancer centers. They have to—they are working every day with people who are dying if they don’t get the latest treatment.
What’s true is that the drugs and treatments cost a LOT and if you don’t have insurance that covers it, well, you might not get the latest. I’ve told this story here before, but when I was in my doc’s office, plugged into my chemo IV, he stopped as he went past and pointed to a very small vial.
“Ten thousand dollars!”
“For one dose?” I asked.
“Yup, ten grand for one dose. THAT’S what’s wrong with my specialty and our country!”
And he went off to inject that $10K dose.

zennurse $@ 88
I wish someone would sit him down and say, What is it you want to do with this life?

Hi zennurse, one of my fav. sayings is, “People live as if they’ll never die and die as if they’ve never lived.”
Even though I dislike Tony Snow, I wish someone would shake him and tell him not to be a martyr for this administration; his life deserves better.

Rayne @
182

punaise @ 162

Rayne @ 154

probably just the unsuspecting seller, unless there’s a Duke Cunningham thing going on.

I should have asked, “who or what”, since “Trace Briarwood” could be a development. But preliminary scans show a single-family low-income housing development by the name of “Briarwood Trace” in Fairfax County. But there have been multiple sales of 800-plusK to 1-plus mil houses by “Trace Briarwood” to other families on Moonstone Drive; I highly doubt it’s a low-income development unless it’s by Kudlow’s standards.

Not finding what I’d like to see by “Trace Briarwood”…nor is Moonstone Drive coming up. Either a very new development not yet indexed (and that can take up to a year based on my personal experience) or it’s in a different municipality in the same county. Hmm.

Pat_AlexVA — you out there?

Apparently owned before…by a lawyer named Howard Scmuckler who works for the Defense Procurement Agency. He has a .mil email address. Apparently he had some pevious issues with the California Bar that led to an investigation and/or resignation.

One more little fact. Mrs. Bloch likes a certain conservative religious candidate favored by evangelicals.

Bloch, Catherine A
Alexandria , VA 22308
Homemaker/Homemaker BROWNBACK, SAMUEL DALE (R)
President
BROWNBACK FOR PRESIDENT $1,000
primary 12/31/06

And when they were living in Lawrence, Kansas both Scott and Catherine ran for the local Republican Committee bt where apparently so conservative that the moderate republican faction refused to endorse them.

Rayne @
182

punaise @ 162

Rayne @ 154

probably just the unsuspecting seller, unless there’s a Duke Cunningham thing going on.

I should have asked, “who or what”, since “Trace Briarwood” could be a development. But preliminary scans show a single-family low-income housing development by the name of “Briarwood Trace” in Fairfax County. But there have been multiple sales of 800-plusK to 1-plus mil houses by “Trace Briarwood” to other families on Moonstone Drive; I highly doubt it’s a low-income development unless it’s by Kudlow’s standards.

Not finding what I’d like to see by “Trace Briarwood”…nor is Moonstone Drive coming up. Either a very new development not yet indexed (and that can take up to a year based on my personal experience) or it’s in a different municipality in the same county. Hmm.

Pat_AlexVA — you out there?

You can take a tour of the place next door

http://360pixs.com/tours/slide.....=fx6339293

It was for sale for $1.5 million!

In his Friday WaPo column, David Broder compares Harry Reid to Alberto Gonzales. The patriot Sam Adams knew the Broders of the world all too well:

If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.

marksb best luck with that 10k lifegiver, hope my perspective doesn’t burn. I’m -totally on your side.

Petrocelli- I like
“How old would you be if you didn’t know how old you were?” attributed to Lillian Gish

I would like to protest in the strongest possible terms the identification of a political opponent’s specific home address, as a gross violation of their privacy.

I don’t care if it’s legally required to be printed in the newspaper, it should not be shared and magnified in our blog.

The law that requires this is based on land feuds where people used to shoot each other because they couldn’t agree who owned which land. I am descended from Kentucky lawyers, this is serious business.

Now this law requires the release of sensitive personal and financial data and provides a home address that can enable those who wish to do them harm.

Do we believe in privacy? Would we object to the home address for our people being broadcast across the nation and the world?

I think there should be a zone of privacy for home and family, where we leave people alone in their houses and do not bring their children into the conversation. Can we agree to this level of civility?

Bearpaw @ 45

Oh, c’mon Jane. A dKos straw poll? I’m all for whoopin’ up Reid, but that’s not exactly a meaningful number.

With all due respect to the members of this wonderful site, the comment by this poster is in no way disrespectful to Jane, or any other member of this forum. True. Jane did say it was a straw poll, and the poster was doing nothing more than pointing out Jane’s own comment. Can any of you/us honestly said that we haven’t made a comment in haste, reading sporatically as time allows?

IMHO, we should cut the poster some slack and see what else she/he has to say IF they decide to stick around.

Forgive me if I am not in on the insider trollie tracks, but this seems to me to be a bit of an over reaction to a comment.

Believe me, I will think twice before commenting again. That should not be the case at a site that I have rarely commented at, but would like to think I am welcome.

IS THIS THE 90% YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT????
As much as I love harry and what he is doing I do not like misleading posts anywhere. It seems to me that the approval is 41% to 35% Where did you get 90%????We hold everyone accountable not just republs.
Do you approve of the way Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is doing his job?
Yes
41% 5386 votes
No
35% 4630 votes
Undecided
24% 3134 votes

| 13150 votes

The above poll was taken right off the Daily Kos page. I copied it not a retyped thing.

Keep in mind I am one of the approving votes.

dolly lanna @
214

IS THIS THE 90% YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT????
As much as I love harry and what he is doing I do not like misleading posts anywhere. It seems to me that the approval is 41% to 35% Where did you get 90%????We hold everyone accountable not just republs.
Do you approve of the way Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is doing his job?
Yes
41% 5386 votes
No
35% 4630 votes
Undecided
24% 3134 votes

| 13150 votes

I believe it is now at 88% but I think you may be a little html challenged here.

Nice shreiking about “misleading posts,” however. Save that, it will come in handy.

However, when I looked it up, that is what was 41% after I read your 90% thing. It still is not at 90% What is going on with that. ?
JUST ASKIN?? YOU KNOW WE ARE RIGHT ON IT.
And again remember I am a code pink member and very much on the side of Reid. please Don’t exaggerate it confuses my pink mind.

laurie9 @ 198

leftdcin72 @ 104

I know this is off point but apparently George Tenet, perhaps the worst hack of all time, is now set to promote his book. This endless parade of jerks, Cheney, Libby, Gore, the Clintons, Bushes, Kerry reflects the level of systemic failure I felt in the Vietnam era. But then the opposition was so clear (and I am not including Kerry who was always a gadfly) and the press was making an effort, even electronic media before the era of Disney and Viacom. It really will go down that the Vietnam War so emasculated and disabled my generation that we were only destined to have the petty such as the Clintons and their appointee, George Tenet and Bush. If you ever watch a re-run of Gore “debating” Bush it is just incredible and that is where that election was lost, not “stolen”.

my bold
I totally agree. It’s time for the 50-60 year-olds to re-enable ourselves!

Thanx for the understanding. Believe it or not both George Allen and James Gilmore were in my class in law school. Another amazing development. Apparently James Gilmore is running for President after Allen imploded. But we live in a time when Allen was reported to be the leading candidate for the Republican nomination. And although some would mock Tucker Carlson, please remember it was he who interviewed and revealed the mocking punk style behavior of Bush pertaining to the execution of the woman who was executed in Texas. You have to have gone to prep school like Tucker to realize how dangerous and out of control Bush is. Preppies recognize Bush’s personality, it the low self-esteem, I am going to get you personality.

Tucker Carlson is Margaret Carlson’s son. Wonder what happened to him? He will make an excellent game show host.

Jane:
no time to read the rest of the comments, but it is the DSM V (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual) and not the DMS, though I’ve heard that term somewhere before too.

Dolly, good chain jerk. FDL has done some good work, but they ARE getting a tad full of themselves.

They did a LOT of worthy, hard work to help Ned Lamont, in both the primary and the election.

And then Hillary, among other things, helped the repubs put Lieberman back in the senate, and I was appalled when they let her on here, and essentially gave her a free pass, for the Q&A.

And then tap-danced around it, when a few of us questioned all of their “stay on the cupcake topic” policy.

Jane, Christy, Pachu, etc., it’s still foxhole time. More than ever, in fact, as Hillary tries to stampede Edwards and Obama out of the race. :o(

She has to do it ASAP, because, just like bush, time is NOT on her side. The worse Iraq gets, the worse she’ll look for not saying, straight-up, what a mistake it was to vote to enable it. She’s just not as intelligent as I once thought, and neither are the people giving her advice.

I am SO ready for a lady Prez. Just not THIS lady.

By contrast, Pelosi is about one good, bitchy, ballsy :o), statement or act away from totally firing my ass UP!

Her refusal to meet with Petraeus, was goood stuff.

Nancy: “General, you go ahead with the 5-O’Clock-follies-redux…I’m trying to cut down on the bullshit around here.”

Dolly, good post. Let’s cut down on it, around here, too. :o)

Uh, someone probably made this point before, but it’s the DSM IV. I say this only because someone gave it to me for my fiftieth birthday and I really like to read it.