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		<title>By: T-bird</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/25/dangling-by-a-string/#comment-650971</link>
		<dc:creator>T-bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To Rat Bastahd 12: The “melt away” scenario has always worked for the Rethugs in the past. It’s astounding that young people think Newt is some “new” guy they haven’t seen around before. Ditto Elliot Abrams, Negroponte etc., etc. A whole cast of vampires from blood sucking reruns of the past. What’s happening? Are new history books (revisions) published every decade or so? Or have American history classes been repealed from curriculums? Really, what’s the solution to keeping from “having to go through all these things twice”? (Dylan)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Rat Bastahd 12: The “melt away” scenario has always worked for the Rethugs in the past. It’s astounding that young people think Newt is some “new” guy they haven’t seen around before. Ditto Elliot Abrams, Negroponte etc., etc. A whole cast of vampires from blood sucking reruns of the past. What’s happening? Are new history books (revisions) published every decade or so? Or have American history classes been repealed from curriculums? Really, what’s the solution to keeping from “having to go through all these things twice”? (Dylan)</p>
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		<title>By: Hardheaded Liberal</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/25/dangling-by-a-string/#comment-650662</link>
		<dc:creator>Hardheaded Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 04:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;It seems to me that an ambitious man who reads the GOP tea leaves and realizes that the wind is no longer filling the “loyal Bushies” flaccid sails on the ship of state might begin to question just which way his reputation might better be made:  protecting Karl Rove’s behind or as the savior of the modern Republican party who made an example of a formerly all-powerful political smarm merchant to return the outward (if not true inward) appearance of integrity.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Christie, the kind of investigation that is required to nail Rover is incredibly complex. Most loyal Bushies are not noted for their competence, and I don’t see any reason that this dork at the Office of Special Counsel would be an exception to this pattern.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nor is Bloch likely to have assembled a staff who could carry out this investigation for him. Jobs for attorneys in the Bush administration are for political hacks who are hyperloyal and don’t have good enough legal training to be expected to be able to think for themselves. (Reference to Bloch’s penchant for hiring law grads from a Catholic law school of dubious note.) Can you imagine Monica Goodling and Kyle Sampson conducting a competent investigation of Rover, assuming they wanted to?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And the Office of Special Counsel did not have a great reputation in the Clinton administration, either.  My colleagues in the employment law bar who practice in the federal sector did not jump up and down and cheer when the Clinton administration’s Office of Special Counsel accepted a complaint for investigation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Like many government watchdogs (e.g., the Army Inspector General whose sterling work in the Tillman investigation was on display this week), there is an aura of “figleaf” usually surrounding an OSC investigation — that is, there is an institutional bias toward vindicating the agency, except when extremely bad facts are shown, and often a bias toward vindicating the agency against the whistleblower even in the face of overwhelming facts.  That type of institution is not one that attracts or retains the kind of legal talent that is needed to bring Rover to heel!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I would love to be proved wrong, but I think Bloch’s announcement was cooked up by Rover himself, to give administration flacks an excuse not to respond to any question about the obvious corruption that Rover &amp; company have blighted the White House and many agencies with.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It seems to me that an ambitious man who reads the GOP tea leaves and realizes that the wind is no longer filling the “loyal Bushies” flaccid sails on the ship of state might begin to question just which way his reputation might better be made:  protecting Karl Rove’s behind or as the savior of the modern Republican party who made an example of a formerly all-powerful political smarm merchant to return the outward (if not true inward) appearance of integrity.</p>
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<p>Christie, the kind of investigation that is required to nail Rover is incredibly complex. Most loyal Bushies are not noted for their competence, and I don’t see any reason that this dork at the Office of Special Counsel would be an exception to this pattern.</p>
<p>Nor is Bloch likely to have assembled a staff who could carry out this investigation for him. Jobs for attorneys in the Bush administration are for political hacks who are hyperloyal and don’t have good enough legal training to be expected to be able to think for themselves. (Reference to Bloch’s penchant for hiring law grads from a Catholic law school of dubious note.) Can you imagine Monica Goodling and Kyle Sampson conducting a competent investigation of Rover, assuming they wanted to?</p>
<p>And the Office of Special Counsel did not have a great reputation in the Clinton administration, either.  My colleagues in the employment law bar who practice in the federal sector did not jump up and down and cheer when the Clinton administration’s Office of Special Counsel accepted a complaint for investigation.</p>
<p>Like many government watchdogs (e.g., the Army Inspector General whose sterling work in the Tillman investigation was on display this week), there is an aura of “figleaf” usually surrounding an OSC investigation — that is, there is an institutional bias toward vindicating the agency, except when extremely bad facts are shown, and often a bias toward vindicating the agency against the whistleblower even in the face of overwhelming facts.  That type of institution is not one that attracts or retains the kind of legal talent that is needed to bring Rover to heel!</p>
<p>I would love to be proved wrong, but I think Bloch’s announcement was cooked up by Rover himself, to give administration flacks an excuse not to respond to any question about the obvious corruption that Rover &amp; company have blighted the White House and many agencies with.</p>
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		<title>By: amy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/25/dangling-by-a-string/#comment-649942</link>
		<dc:creator>amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ok, I have some questions for all of you who know way more than I do.  I’m not sure how to go about doing the research to find any answers.  I am not sure if this falls into the area of ‘conspiracy theories’ or not.  I’ve been following all of the so-called “voter fraud” cases in relation to the US Attorney scandals, that were implemented through the Bush administration officials in D.C.  Here in Texas, in our current legislative session, we have had one of 2 bills approved relating to voter ID and registration, in order to prevent “voter fraud”.  (Does that ring a bell?)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, my questions are, does Karl Rove’s office or anyone related to the administration have connections to the bills authors - Betty Brown (R-Athens) or Phil King (R-Weatherford) or our top state officials?  Are the legislators in Texas getting any pressure to implement “voter fraud” legislation as part of the underlying “voter fraud” cases that Rove has talked about?  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The coincidences of the brewing scandals in D.C. and the supposed problems of “voter fraud” that really do not exist and are actually ploys to decrease mostly Democratic voters, is just a little bit odd and makes me wonder if something bigger isn’t going on.  After all, Bush, et al. are mostly from Texas and are still friends with many people here.  It would not surprise me and if it is the case, it needs to get some publicity that this is going on.  Is there a way to find out the answers to these questions?  I may be completely off base and not know what I am talking about, but it makes me have lots of questions.  Thanks and you all are always great!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I have some questions for all of you who know way more than I do.  I’m not sure how to go about doing the research to find any answers.  I am not sure if this falls into the area of ‘conspiracy theories’ or not.  I’ve been following all of the so-called “voter fraud” cases in relation to the US Attorney scandals, that were implemented through the Bush administration officials in D.C.  Here in Texas, in our current legislative session, we have had one of 2 bills approved relating to voter ID and registration, in order to prevent “voter fraud”.  (Does that ring a bell?)</p>
<p>So, my questions are, does Karl Rove’s office or anyone related to the administration have connections to the bills authors &#8211; Betty Brown (R-Athens) or Phil King (R-Weatherford) or our top state officials?  Are the legislators in Texas getting any pressure to implement “voter fraud” legislation as part of the underlying “voter fraud” cases that Rove has talked about?  </p>
<p>The coincidences of the brewing scandals in D.C. and the supposed problems of “voter fraud” that really do not exist and are actually ploys to decrease mostly Democratic voters, is just a little bit odd and makes me wonder if something bigger isn’t going on.  After all, Bush, et al. are mostly from Texas and are still friends with many people here.  It would not surprise me and if it is the case, it needs to get some publicity that this is going on.  Is there a way to find out the answers to these questions?  I may be completely off base and not know what I am talking about, but it makes me have lots of questions.  Thanks and you all are always great!</p>
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		<title>By: rapier</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/25/dangling-by-a-string/#comment-649459</link>
		<dc:creator>rapier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Let’s remember Ron Suskind’s observation of Rove in action. “I’m going to fuck him. I’m going to fuck him like he’s never been fucked before”…. and on and on, is what Suskind heard sitting outside Rove’s office where he went for an interview. It was assumed Rove was talking about a Party member. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rove has fucked countless Republicans over the years. It’s rather surprising really that the knives haven’t come out for him yet, after the fall election disaster.   His circle of real friends must be pretty small by now.  Bush, David Broder and ? (The Broder thing about really liking Rove and the visit to his cabin is beyond all belief. Earth to Dave. He was cultivating you pal. Buttering you up because you could be usefull to him. Broders naivet is stunning.  I can imagine Rove riffing on Broder. ‘There’s a sucker born every minute. What a pathetic wuss. Howls of delight after another column about compromise)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let’s remember Ron Suskind’s observation of Rove in action. “I’m going to fuck him. I’m going to fuck him like he’s never been fucked before”…. and on and on, is what Suskind heard sitting outside Rove’s office where he went for an interview. It was assumed Rove was talking about a Party member. </p>
<p>Rove has fucked countless Republicans over the years. It’s rather surprising really that the knives haven’t come out for him yet, after the fall election disaster.   His circle of real friends must be pretty small by now.  Bush, David Broder and ? (The Broder thing about really liking Rove and the visit to his cabin is beyond all belief. Earth to Dave. He was cultivating you pal. Buttering you up because you could be usefull to him. Broders naivet is stunning.  I can imagine Rove riffing on Broder. ‘There’s a sucker born every minute. What a pathetic wuss. Howls of delight after another column about compromise)</p>
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		<title>By: Horatio Parker</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/25/dangling-by-a-string/#comment-649403</link>
		<dc:creator>Horatio Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Bach was great. Period instruments are the way to go.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Who’s this Rove guy everybody’s tlaking about?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bach was great. Period instruments are the way to go.</p>
<p>Who’s this Rove guy everybody’s tlaking about?</p>
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		<title>By: barrelhse</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/25/dangling-by-a-string/#comment-649312</link>
		<dc:creator>barrelhse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;MORE BUSES!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MORE BUSES!</p>
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		<title>By: estiv</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/25/dangling-by-a-string/#comment-649278</link>
		<dc:creator>estiv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One thing that occurred to me while reading this post’s discussion of Rove’s role: when will the other leaders in the Republican party (senators, representatives, governors, etc.) figure out that Karl Rove’s deepest loyalty is to George W. Bush, and not to the Republican Party? When Rove has to decide whether to do something that helps W in the short run or the GOP in the long run, it has become obvious which way he leans. At some point, people like McConnell will have to face what the implications of this bias mean to their own political futures.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that occurred to me while reading this post’s discussion of Rove’s role: when will the other leaders in the Republican party (senators, representatives, governors, etc.) figure out that Karl Rove’s deepest loyalty is to George W. Bush, and not to the Republican Party? When Rove has to decide whether to do something that helps W in the short run or the GOP in the long run, it has become obvious which way he leans. At some point, people like McConnell will have to face what the implications of this bias mean to their own political futures.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul S</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/25/dangling-by-a-string/#comment-649261</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I believe Bloch will put on a scrupulous investigator act.  He will prosecute Rove for some minor thing (like Libby’s crime) and the rest of the gang (i.e. Bush &amp; Cheney) will be shielded.  The “press” will pump up Bloch as the man of integrity and, perhaps, Bloch will be anointed as a new “integrity hero” somewhat like McCain to continue carrying out the long term project.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t know what to think about Fitzpatrick.  He could be seen in this light but I think that is probably excessively cynical.  But I wouldn’t rule it out.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let’s not forget that all these Federal Attorneys who were fired were Republicans.  When Bush appointed them, the vetting procedures were probably every bit as corrupt as they were when they were fired.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Bloch will put on a scrupulous investigator act.  He will prosecute Rove for some minor thing (like Libby’s crime) and the rest of the gang (i.e. Bush &amp; Cheney) will be shielded.  The “press” will pump up Bloch as the man of integrity and, perhaps, Bloch will be anointed as a new “integrity hero” somewhat like McCain to continue carrying out the long term project.</p>
<p>I don’t know what to think about Fitzpatrick.  He could be seen in this light but I think that is probably excessively cynical.  But I wouldn’t rule it out.</p>
<p>Let’s not forget that all these Federal Attorneys who were fired were Republicans.  When Bush appointed them, the vetting procedures were probably every bit as corrupt as they were when they were fired.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/25/dangling-by-a-string/#comment-649178</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;See, this is why those out there who think that Bush won’t veto any bill with a timetable are very much mistaken.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush and his advisors are fifteen-year-old trust-fund babies in the bodies of mature men and women.  They never have had to face, on a deep and personal level, the consequences of their actions.  Their political philosophy is nothing more than a raised middle finger to everything that is espoused by anyone who might try to make them operate under any sort of restraint.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Since they’ve never before had to trim their sails, much less make a major couse correction, they simply cannot conceive of the possibility that they are in the process of destroying not only themselves, not only the Republican Party, but the entire conservative movement.  The main (if not only) thing propping them up right now is their heavy influence/control of the TV and radio outlets from which most Americans get their news — and with the rise of Keith Olbermann, The Daily Show and Colbert Report, and the reality-based portion of the blogosphere, even that influence is weakening.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, this is why those out there who think that Bush won’t veto any bill with a timetable are very much mistaken.</p>
<p>Bush and his advisors are fifteen-year-old trust-fund babies in the bodies of mature men and women.  They never have had to face, on a deep and personal level, the consequences of their actions.  Their political philosophy is nothing more than a raised middle finger to everything that is espoused by anyone who might try to make them operate under any sort of restraint.</p>
<p>Since they’ve never before had to trim their sails, much less make a major couse correction, they simply cannot conceive of the possibility that they are in the process of destroying not only themselves, not only the Republican Party, but the entire conservative movement.  The main (if not only) thing propping them up right now is their heavy influence/control of the TV and radio outlets from which most Americans get their news — and with the rise of Keith Olbermann, The Daily Show and Colbert Report, and the reality-based portion of the blogosphere, even that influence is weakening.</p>
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		<title>By: SB_Gypsy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/25/dangling-by-a-string/#comment-649177</link>
		<dc:creator>SB_Gypsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;But Republicans voice the bitterness and frustration of people chained to the hull of a sinking ship.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They chained themselves there&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ain’t Karma a bitch?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But Republicans voice the bitterness and frustration of people chained to the hull of a sinking ship.</p>
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<p>They chained themselves there</p>
<p>Ain’t Karma a bitch?</p>
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