Meteor Blades writes about how the right has been hammering us with language, and points to Gloria Feldt's article on Alternet to drive that point home:
[The] partial birth abortion ban is a political scam but [also] a public relations goldmine. … The major benefit is the debate that surrounds it. — Randall Terry
So said the founder of Operation Rescue, a militant anti-choice group that blockaded abortion providers, in 2003.
Wednesday's U.S. Supreme Court decision (Gonzales v. Carhart) upholding the federal abortion ban is the fruition of that public relations goldmine. It is a travesty of language bought and repeated endlessly by journalists who were sometimes uninformed and sometimes just too lazy to get it right.
Indeed, the travesty of language around abortion is so pervasive that even Justice Anthony Kennedy, writing the decision for the court's majority, in addition to using the inaccurate term "partial birth abortion," also referred to the "abortion doctor" repeatedly in the ruling. Why did he not simply refer to doctors as "doctors," or "ob/gyns"? If another surgical procedure were under scrutiny, would he have he referred to "tonsillectomy doctor" or "hysterectomy doctor"? Of course not. But those who want to take away entirely a woman's human right to make her own childbearing decisions have used the term "abortion doctor" for so long as an epithet that they have succeeded in getting even the highest court in the land to adopt their language.
Such bias is just the tip of the iceberg in the battle over what losing plaintiff Dr. Leroy Carhart has called "partial truth abortion." There is no such thing as partial birth abortion. The term will be found in no medical book. It was coined in 1995 by Douglas Johnson, legislative director for the National Right-to-Life Committee, and former Congressional representative and current Florida appeals court judge Charles Canady explicitly to confuse, horrify, and deceive — to manipulate language with the intent of sensationalizing the abortion debate. In particular, they intended to take the focus away from the woman in order to place the greater value on the fetus. Leading medical associations all agreed it was a misleading term, but the media never checked their language and by 2001, 90% of articles were using the term without so much as a "so-called" attached. As I reported in my 2004 book The War on Choice, an AP managing editor admitted when challenged that "partial birth abortion" was emotionally loaded, but said they continued to use it because it was instantly recognizable. Another major daily newspaper editor admitted it wasn't correct but said it was easier to use than alternatives.
There is no such thing as a "partial birth" abortion. Sometimes it's necessary to refer to the horrible bill with this name, but the next time someone uses it to describe a procedure, please ask them — where exactly does the "partially born" part come in? It doesn't. There has been a horrible education job done by our side to fight back against the use of this term and if even Randall Terry is admitting it's bullshit, why are politicans and Supreme Court Justices using it without question?
We're getting killed by focus groups and lazy journalists. Next time you hear it, please raise your hand and object.




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Jane!!!!
I’ll try to keep up this time.
Jane!! Great work on having HRC visit FDL!
Jane!
The right wing also lies about the stage of fetal development. Women are actually pregnant for only 8.5 months, not nine–doctors count from the first day of the last menstrual period, but women don’t ovulate for another two weeks (typically). The right wing knowingly uses this extra two weeks to lie about what a fetus looks like at various stages, to influence people against choice.
I don’t think it is just this one issue. It’s a problem that most Dems have. They are scared of their own shadow, including the one who was kind enough to stop by today. Where are the leaders besides Feingold? Who will take a stand and take the effort to convince people it is the right one?
Thanks Jane. The terminology in this issue has long been a pet peeve of mine. “Pro-Life” is another meaningless term — as if their opponents are anti-life…
Unfortunately, that’s Sen. Clinton
Dover Bitch @
7
Yeah I actually made mention of that over on Meteor Blades’ post.
there is a dreadful mis-spelling in the Feldt article, how to notify someone so it can be quickly corrected????
my bold
I have a legal eagle question.
If the term partial birth abortion isn’t a valid medical procedure (and it isn’t according to acceptable medical diagnosis), then could that be used to “ignore” an artificial restriction on medical pracitce? In other words, when a second/third trimester dilation and extraction is performed (and coded for diagnosis and billing) could this be used as a valid loophole?
Jane Hamsher @ 8
Well, that’s just because you’re always on top of everything. :)
Decent article about The Veto.
Soldiers health
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/042007B.shtml
eyes of the world @ 6
They’re pro-life only until the fetuses are born.
Frankly, I am abandoning the death cultists on the left and I am going to focus on the family by supporting a faith based culture of life because I have become a values voter who is moving to the heartland.
-GSD
OT
Supporting Documents for H Res 333
GSD @ 15
I ’spect there’s heart wherever you land.
Although “partial birth abortion” is not a medical term, unfortunately it has become a legal term by the Supreme Court’s use of it.
Going against what the Doctors thought was best for the mother what law can be considered valid if it is not rooted in logic and designed to help people. Putting their radical beliefs (even pre Vatican 2 Catholics believed in abortion to save the mothers life) above the common good is wrong. I wonder what the church has to say on this? I just hope they have not been infiltrated completly by Opus Dei.
As a son of an English teacher/librarian and someone who loves to read, it is my fervent hope that the beautiful English language can be re-claimed from the Orwellian obscenities who have stolen it.
Who started naming bills in these totally Derrida-esque ways?
It’s totally perverse.
No Child Left Behind leaves only the vulnerable.
So obfuscatory.
This is why some of us are scolds when it comes to language (recent example: referring to British captives as hostages). It’s important not to adopt the right wing framing, you lose the battle when that happens. Not playing by the rigged rules of the right wing is half the battle. It’s very, very hard when even outlets like NPR have become so corrupted by right wing talking points.
Wow! All this opposition from to abortion from the same shrub/rethug political machine that has, since it took power, presided over the first ever sustained increase in infant mortality rates in the developed world. Question shrub: what do the US and the ex-Soviet Baltic Republics have in common? What do Poland, the Czech Republic and Hungary now do better than the US? The rate of infant survivability. Protect the fetus, murder the infant. Keep the bathwater, throw out the baby. Makes perfect sense to me. Arseholes.
GSD @ 15
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STAT! De-fibrillator and tongue depressor, Probably oxygen. OKK bit the tip of his tongue off, and i’m trying to reattach. But the buffalo gut stitches hurt.
eyes of the world @ 6
We, and all our allies, must call them “anti-choice” at every opportunity. “Forced-birth advocates” also works.
Elliott @ 9
That’s a feature, not a bug.
GSD @ 15
That would mean that you support health care for all, equity in education (access to college for free)a living wage, and not invading countries that have not attacked us. Pro-life Indeed!
TeddySanFran @
26
Nah. “Evil hypocrites” is the right label.
neurophius @ 18
The Supreme court also once declared that blacks are property and have no rights in court.
Things change….
I was a biology major until my junior year in college, and the one most important thing I learned during that time was precision with technical words. Don’t they do this for journalism majors any more? Don’t they drill into them the precise use of words and to question anything less than that?
Blub @ 30
Pro-Rapist Reproduction works best.
OT
Just got a major laugh. My local PBS announced a schedule change to show an “exclusive” W interview by Charlie Rose. Wonder how close he’ll come to Colbert: How great a president are you? Just great, or the greatest?
Kucinich and Impeachment
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/….._0424.html
And in the spirit of ‘Virginity Balls’ why not have ‘Labor Balls’ where Republican Daughters pledge to their fathers to give birth under any circumstances, health and family relationship to the father notwithstanding? /*snark
Welcome Senator, is impeachment still off the table? Topic on.
Kathleen @
28
Yeehaw!
-GSD
OK.
“In Turnabout, Infant Deaths Climb in South”
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04…..ref=slogin
Let’s be completely clear here: this sucks. And if you have the misfortune of being born Black in an American inner city, your population’s IMR is at least 15 and, depending on geography, possibly much higher…. and increasing. For perspective, that’s comparable to Panama and nearly comparable to Mexico or China, which are much much poorer countries. This isn’t about pro-choice or anti-choice. It’s about the hypocrisy of baby killers.
There’s no debate here… not with people who have the right to debate. None at all. No argument.
Phule @ 28
*oops*
was my face read!
oops some more, sorry mods
[Modnote: You are our hero for finding this typo. Take a bow.]
Harry Reid lately seems to be waging a one-man campaign to have the last word, or at least the last sound-bite, whenever Bush et. al. puff up about Iraq.
There is a lot to be said for simply challenging the BS each time it is thrown.
puppethead @ 22
Yes, it’s important not just to refuse to use their terms and frames, but to study how they reject other frames. Because with all due respect, Jane, by the time we get to the point of raising our hands and objecting, most of the battle is already lost.
While there are a lot of areas where we have no choice but to try to dig ourselves out of that hole, we have to learn how to stop it before it goes that far in the future (something I’ll freely admit I don’t know how to do, yet.)
My understanding is that this extreme procedure is only done to protect the health of the mother or if the fetus is surely to die and bringing the fetus to term jeopardizes the mother’s ability to have a successful subsequent pregnancy. I just don’t understand the Court’s logic. They wish to protect the mental health of the mother by endangering her health and her ability to deliver a healthy baby in the future. The twisted logic of the right has found it’s Majority on the Supreme Court. If this is not enough to wake us up to the reality that Freedom and Justice is in peril then I’m afraid nothing will.
I am a Liberal Irish Catholic Man who loves life and abhors violence. Abortion is a moral question I have struggled with for many years. While I believe I should be a significant part of the discussion in a decision of choice with my partner, this is ultimately the choice of the Mother. Certainly I and other Men have no right to decide this issue for Women. What of the Moral Authority of the Church and the Religious Right as a whole? Puuuuulease!
Alison @ 21
Though there has always been a certain degree of this, Frank Luntz and Newt Gingrich were responsible for the major expansion in the use of Orwellian language.
Redshift @ 45
Though there has always been a certain degree of this, Frank Luntz and Newt Gingrich were responsible for the major expansion in the use of Orwellian language.
The Ministers of Propaganda
I believe the “Abortion Wars” is really about the fact that women do selectively reproduce and do reject what the female may consider as substandard male DNA. Women have the POWER to DECIDE which males will be weeded out of human evolution. Men can’t handle rejection and definitely arepetrified at the fact that women make the determination as to whether to reject the repository sperm or accept the male’s DNA and allow the evolution of the male’s bloodline.
Men just can’t cope with the fact that women have the ultimate power in the evolutionary grand scheme.
Female rejection of the males sperms is frightening to men. They just can’t handle the truth.
…creak…creak…creak…
The impudent return up the stairs.
Welcome Madame Senator!
Respectfully:
You’ve said that if you knew then what you know now, then you wouldn’t’a… you know, supported the thing, but Paul Wellstone knew then exactly what you knew then, and he didn’t support the thing, so are you saying he didn’t know what he thought he knew and was wrong to have acted as if he knew it when he didn’t, even though, as we now know, he did know it, or are you saying that you didn’t know then that you knew what he knew but somehow, to this day, continue not to know you knew it?
Warmest,
etc.
“There has been a horrible education job done by our side to fight back against the use of this term “
Bingo. I put the blame squarely on progressive Democrats. Our team has done a LOUSY job. Take me, for example. I truly do keep pretty sharp on issues, but I still don’t know jack about this mess. Follow along.
1. Partial birth abortion: huh??? It was only in the last several days that I even learned that this is misleading. I truly thought that PBA had something to do with a woman…and I truly don’t mean to sound funny…but a woman laid out on the delivery table, right IN THE MIDDLE of childbirth, and she raises up on her elbows and says “wait!! I changed my mind. Abort!” Well good grief.
2. Late term abortion: ok, I can undestand that. BUT….what are the nuts and bolts? A woman 8 months pregnant may need to abort? Why? What’s happened to her over the last several months? Did something happen to the baby over the last several months that puts the woman at risk if she gives birth? What? How would going thru with birth kill the woman?
3. And, if I am unable to answer these basic questions, how can you expect most men to? Suppose, sometime in the next 10 days I’m down at my bar. I got my usual glass of whiskey and a cigar. Some guy is sitting next to me, and we start talking politics. This Court decision comes up. I tell him it’s a bad decision. “Why?” he asks. I tell him…..what???
Do ya’ll see the problems? Very, very poor communication has come from us Democrats to educate folks on a basic, nuts and bolts level. And I’m at the head of the line in not understanding.
Ghostman
ralphbon @ 47
Beautiful!
Since everyone’s presumably out eating dinner, though it’s nearly 1AM where i am, let’s pose the question: What was gained by having the HRC here?
First let me state that Jane, Christy (and probably Howie) and the brilliant Crew here (that’s what keeps me here) know more about reading tha landscape than i. But…
Wasn’t that the same Hillary who courted a Mr. Murdoch’s money and influence before she announced? Am i so politically blind that i will now be skewered here for being politically blind?
It’s not that i don’t trust HRC, who i don’t, but for sure i don’t trust the people running the corporations behind her. She’s from the “though we’ll do it in a liberal, humane way, we’ll keep the Iraqi oil, thank you” school… which i find abominable.
RockPaperScizzors @
46
Again, before we engage in culture wars, we need to look at the facts, and the facts do not support their culture of life.
Each and every time the right accuses us of supporting abortion, we need to respond by throwing shrub’s IMR record right back at them. Again, what we are seeing has never happened before:– sustained increases in IMR in a developed country, thanks directly to shrub’s cuts in pre- and post-natal healthcare at clinics for low-income families.
The question they should be forced to answer: on what planet, in what reality, by what logic can you can simultaneously support both a ban on abortions AND an decrease in infant survivability? Until this question is answered satisfactorily by a change in the empirical medical facts, we should outright refuse to debate ANY issue even remotely connected with their anti-abortion fetish. In which case, expect shrub to order HHS to stop collecting IMR statistics and we’ll actually become a country that collects statistics on abortion but not on infant death. I want them to come right out and say it: their “faith” protects the fetus but sanctions the government-sponsored murder-by-neglect of the newborn infant.
On a positive note, I saw a bee today during my forest sanity walk.
Wanted to issue an invitation, Hey, come on in, sit down, stretch your legs [all of them], can I get you anything? Nectar, sugar water, a little fresh fruit?
Jane, the antiabortion crowd was masterful in framing this issue. I commented last week that, during the past few years, I found myself explaining to generally informed, pro-choice people what NARAL, supposedly pro-choice Democrats, and pro-choice supporters in general either didn’t know or couldn’t bring themselves to discuss…the medical conditions under which a physician may recommend intact dilation and extraction and why some women opt for that procedure to safeguard their health or save their lives.
I came to the conclusion that pro-choicers and Dems don’t do icky. It certainly worked for our opponents, with their constant references to “sucking babies’ brains out.” The time to have fought them was in 2002 and 2003, before the law was ever enacted. We needed public opinion to be persuasively on our side, at the very least insisting on a health exception for pregnant women. Instead, we found long-time supporters of abortion agreeing, if uncomfortably, that “partial birth abortion” might be a good place to “draw the line.”
Our lobbyists and spokespersons just couldn’t yell back, with the icky stories of fetuses with hydrocephalus, of the very real risks other procedures posed to women and the icky reasons why. That I had to dig out this info on my own, while Hillary Clinton lamented the tragedy of abortion, and that it should be “safe, legal, and rare” is a travesty.
It is this wholesale ignorance about the issue that allowed Howard Fineman to say, on Chris Matthews’ show Sunday morning, that “medically, it doesn’t mean a whole lot,” referring to the Supreme Court decision, without a single person on the panel calling him out on it.
“Treasonous” is the perfect example. Here is Tom Delay, disgraced politician – who is one who has betrayed the public trust, defining treasonous (TPM Quoting the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review):
Laughing out Loud… But, the zealots on the right need these type “down-is-up” twisted sound-bites because they gave up the ability to think on their own years ago. Why do you think they are such easy marks for propaganda?
This was a great post. I heard someone say pro-life today and I said, NO, call it pro-embryo or pro-blasticist.
Blub @
38
Why don’t the pro-lifers care about THOSE babies and make sure all pregnant girls and ladies can see a doctor, and that all babies can too.
Redshift @ 42
I’d like to dissent here, if you don’t mind. The Neo-cons work from a fairly rigid, narrow, and simple loyalty narrative. We’re never really surprised by what they say about any given issue, no matter how they frame it, or us.
I’d like to suggest that the tactic of beating them to the ‘framing’ is playing their game, and they are good at it.
On the other hand, the ‘light’ we are bringing to the table here is the light of freedom in all its forms without discrimination. What ‘we’ represent is anti-Control, anti-Oppression and anti-Prejudice.
To show it, we don’t need to resort to reflexively pressing the hot-buttons that Rove offers-up, but rather clean-up the governmental processes that have served us so well for the first 230 years of our still-young Country.
We are all suffering from the long-term effects of GOP ‘perception’ management – we’ve forgotten: in a fair system, our numbers will prevail.
It’s taken henchmen and henchwomen serving an Agenda to effect the Control of the 70% by the 30%.
Fix the system, and everything is possible.
I know there was a doctor in the senate a few years ago. Are any of the supreme court judges also a doctor?
Kathleen @
34
In this article, it is reported that Pelosi said the reason impeachment is not being pursued is because it would take away from work the Democrats need to do to stay in power and get a Democrat elected in 2008. Then she said the President isn’t worth impeaching, but she didn’t say anything about the Vice President being impeached, as far as I could tell from the article.
Hmmmmmm. I personally am with Kucinich on this, because if we don’t do something concrete, based upon the Administration’s behavior over Gonzales and the email question; we will end up in Iran before the end of Bush’s term. Then, the gig will be up (our gig), not his.
SnarKassandra @ 55
The danger of language is evident in this exact phraseology. The SCAR (Scalia, Clarence, Alito – Naral’s buddy – and Roberts) of SCOTUS (or, “Scrotum” )is starting to use the phrase “fetus” as a term for an unborn human being. The previous history of SCOTUS has not defined this term, to the best of my belief, as a human being.
Roe v Wade will be wiped out within 5 years. This is the first word-tsunami IMNSHO
egregious @ 52
I live in the foothills above The San Fernando Valley and I’ve got plenty o’ bees. The spring-flowered ground cover is buzzing! Hundreds.
Hope this is good news as opposed to the rest of what’s going on today.
radiofreewill @ 57
Exactamente!
Fresh off the AP wire/NYTimes: Native American Women have a 1 in 3 risk of being sexually assaulted or raped – 86% of the attackers are non-Native Americans. There is a severe shortage of nurses who can deal with the needs of women who are sexually assaulted, and the Indian Health Service is underfunded, doesn’t work independently of other law enforcement and health agencies, so most attackers go free, and the women may never get the care and counseling (let alone rape kit evidence collection) that they need.
with regard to the “abortion doctors” … maybe we should call these journalists “republican reporters”. they write about republicans, don’t they ? if misleading half-truths are good enough for them, and of course for republicans, nobody should object …
N=1 @ 63
Is that different numbers from other Americans?
radiofreewill @ 57
I’m certainly sympathetic to that view. One of the handicaps we always have is that unlike the Right, we’re not willing to outright lie, or slavishly follow people who do, and I certainly wouldn’t want that to change. (”How do we defeat them without becoming them?” is my eternal question.)
But while I am not a big fan of “framing,” I do think we need to learn better how to reject their language and framing early on, not necessarily to substitute our own, but to prevent it from taking hold and leaving us fighting on their turf.
If we can create a landscape where framing is not powerful, then I agree that we would usually win on the facts, and that would definitely be preferable to our own sound-bite world.
egregious @ 52
You made me smile, egregious, though sadly, though warmly.
SnarKassandra @ 65
Numbers for all American women are one in five for either sexual assault or rape
dmoore @ 61
As I’ve said before, I have millions at my place. Today, as I walked past one of their favorite flowering wild shrubs, the buzzzzz was deafening. Maybe they just don’t like or can’t tolerate the fast-food bee syrup the commercial beekeepers feed them. Maybe they caught on to some humans manufacturing contaminated pet food and they split.
SnarKassandra @
65
The most frequently cited statistic for college-age women is 1 in 4 I think.
Separately, on impeachment, I think we seriously need to consider a double impeachment immediately:– Abu and Rove. Politically, such a move would be timely and it’ll keep the spotlight on the WH. If one goes, so should the other, given that they’ve so clearly been working together to undermine the Constitution and the rule of law.
SnarKassandra @ 65
According to an earlier story I read, it’s about three times higher than American women overall.
And just to connect this to other disgraces, one of the fired US Attorneys (Chiara) had been praised for her effectiveness in working with the tribes to combat crimes such as this where jurisdiction is unclear. Grrr…
LS @ 69
You might consider giving your county extension agent a call to report them. I’m thinking that the local apiaries would be interested.
LS @ 69
dmoore @ 61
egregious @ 52
On a positive note, I saw a bee today during my forest sanity walk.
Wanted to issue an invitation, Hey, come on in, sit down, stretch your legs [all of them], can I get you anything? Nectar, sugar water, a little fresh fruit?
I live in the foothills above The San Fernando Valley and I’ve got plenty o’ bees. The spring-flowered ground cover is buzzing! Hundreds.
Hope this is good news as opposed to the rest of what’s going on today.
As I’ve said before, I have millions at my place. Today, as I walked past one of their favorite flowering wild shrubs, the buzzzzz was deafening. Maybe they just don’t like or can’t tolerate the fast-food bee syrup the commercial beekeepers feed them. Maybe they caught on to some humans manufacturing contaminated pet food and they split.
Bees are fine in the orchards of Western Colorado. The cell phone reception is a little shitty… But, hey, one has to set one’s priorities. ?Que si?
Not exactly off topic
Fred Kagan on the NewsHour about the deaths of 8 soldiers in Diyala. He only uses the term al Qaeda to refer to the Iraqi insurgency. It’s propagandistic and wrong but we are talking about Fred Kagan and so I suppose should expect this. Still why does the NewsHour have this goof on?
N=1 @ 68
Is that in their whole life?
What needs to happen is stories like this in Ms. Magazine have to appear on the airwaves of CNN, MSNBC, etc.
N=1 @ 72
Good idea! I have several shrub/bushes (I’m not sure what they are called, but they are very fragrant – actually smelly if you rub up against them), and they are all over them. I live on a fairly large property that is pretty wild (Central Texas Hill Country), so maybe that has something to do with it.
For many years, I have felt that the rethugs were marketters on steroids. Many of them come out of marketting schemes and/or the advertisement world.
They are very good with the frame. I’m surprised that the Dems have been much less successful. Particularly with the entermainment world supporters. But what have the Dems given us that can compete with the cynical brilliance of “pro-life” and “moral majority”? Maybe Kennedy. But even under Clinton, admittedly a master communicator, there were few “catch phrases.” Just saying…we gotta get much, much better.
Puesto 73, We have pretty iffy cell phone reception right where I live, and no major power lines near here either.
LS @ 77
I LOVE the Hill Country!
Hugh @ 74
Because the propaganda in amurka is so professional. Hugh, you have done more here to document this than nearly anyone… but it’s still hard to fathom when you’re immersed in it.
Hugh @ 74
Don’t you mean the NeoconsHour?
OT, sorry to interrupt, but Sales of previously owned homes suffered their biggest drop in nearly two decades last month. The National Association of Realtors said today that sales of existing homes, which account for about 80 percent of all home sales, fell 8.4 percent in March. That was the steepest decline since 1989.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04…..mp;emc=rss
BushCo Aristocracy has the Middle Class(peasants) swirling around the drain soon to be plunged into atrocious inflation.
OT but I just saw this story pop up on my yahoo toolbar:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..e_planet_4
Scientists may have found a habitable earthlike planet 120 trillion miles away from earth. I vote for the immediate establishment of a permanent Rethug/wingnut colony there. They can have a whole abortion-free, brown-people free, Muslim-free, conscience-free planet all to themselves :)
SnarKassandra @ 75: About lifespan and sexual assaults: good point, and I’m not sure. The stat quoted in the AP story was from Amnesty International.
RockPaperScizzors @ 83
We are probably going to rent a house pretty soon and have my brother’s girlfriend live with us.
LS @ 70
It’s likely to be something complicated. There’s some recent news (from Florida, I think) that suggests that if the hives are irradiated with gamma rays, and then the missing bees are replaced with ones from Australia, all seems to be well so far.
If there’s some sort of mite involved, it could be that the mite is new–introduced from somewhere else–and our bees don’t have natural resistance to it… or, something like GM corn has reduced the bees’ natural defenses and make them unable to fight off the invading organism.
I keep thinking about dropping monarch butterfly populations and if that’s a situation paralleling that of the bees.
It’s definitely going to require more research.
Re: The Bees
We don’t do pictures in comments, but if we did, here’s my visual:
Dick Cheney’s head on Winnie The Pooh rolled in mud and clinging to a balloon. “Aim me at the bees, please…I’m just a little black raincloud…”
My kids are grown and gone, but it’s still a song in my head. Thanks Dick(head) sorry, but when I hear the words coming out of that man’s mouth, oh there’s just not enough to say. Thanks Harry for standing up to that creepy cloud. Arggh.
Ping! Heavy Construction today, Jane! Once again, thank you very much!
I didn’t read the article, but I have to wonder and maybe laugh a little. Here in this country the Supremes hand down their abortion decision, dominated by Catholics. The headline I just read on MSN says that Mexico City just legalized abortions. I have a hard time thinking that that decision was not reached by Catholics too. I wonder what gives?
Phoenix Woman is upstairs.
New thread from Phoenix Woman.
The Harpy Redux: The Art Of Slime And Speculation
Seineman @ 91
The change is in Mexico City only, and is unlikely to be received well in rural areas, from what I hear.
The situation in Mexico City is severe–environmentally, socially, economically. The number of internal refugees which have come from rural areas to Mexico City looking for work because they’ve been displaced from their land by corporate farms (NAFTA, again) has made Mexico City the fastest growing city in the world, and it’s being stretched beyond its limits.
I have a feeling that such local overpopulation is a very strong marker for this particular change.
montag @ 93
Thanks. I read the article and guess the decision will be appealed. It also said that the abortions will be subsidized for those who can’t afford it. That sounds fair. I think that people don’t realize that population control is the answer to most of our problems, but one that will not see the light of day.
I hope this finally puts to rest the ridiculous notion that there’s no difference between the parties. I can think of no other way to explain this decision: Millions of women have been disrespected and shown the backside of “Justice” Kennedy’s hand. I pray they all respond by voting for Democrats from now on.
Cassie – be cautious about any statistics. 71.25% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
It is often hard, if not impossible, to find out where some of these numbers come from, and many are purely bogus. Not to imply that these are, but just always be very suspicious of stats that are not well documented as to source.
Ghostman @ 48
1. Extraction and Dialation, they need to cut it up to get it out.
which leads to 2. Because the fetus is already dead, has no brain or spinal cord or is otherwise deformed to such an extent that survival outside the room is nil, and/or the mother is developing complications from the pregnancy including but not limited to heart or kidney damage, diabetes, immuno-system reactions…etc. which would make waiting to give birth = death
3. The Internets are your friend.
Language is very important in a lot of these public relations games.
I’ll give us a few suggestions.
Never ignore the power of rhyme.
“If the doesn’t fit, you must acquit”
And when you hear a word or phrase that “works” USE it. Do you think that the smears about John Edward as the B G was used just once? No. Someone heard it, thought it was neat and used it again. And again. And again.
So that said, here is one that I just heard (it think from a right winger!) and I think we can all use:
Weather Vane McCain
This will be the “flip-flop” for John McCain.
This can replace “The Maverick” image.
I think I’ll go to a rally wearing a weather Vain on my head!
New Spin Dagger… Giuliani… This will backfire on him as trying to get the voter to politicize security, IMNSHO:
“We’re getting killed by focus groups and lazy journalists.”
You forgot to mention the self inflicted wounds caused by gutless, useless, and clueless politicians who supposedly represent us but aren’t willing to put up a fight.
Lazy journalists indeed! The MSM has betrayed the American people in their pursuit of profits and celebrityhood. They are members of the ruling elite and will do what is necessary to protect their position of priviledge and power. There will be a reckoning for these propagandists of American tyranny. Maybe Rove, Russert, Novak, Hume et al can do a version of Rapmaster K in the federal pen.
Let it be written in all American history books from this day forward that Kennedy is the Abortion Supreme Court Justice…or the Supreme Abortion Court Justice…or the Supreme Court Abortion Justice.
No, not the anti-abortion supreme court justice, but the Abortion Supreme Court Justice who just endangered the lives of all pregnant women in American, no matter what their political or religious affiliation, and made it much more likely that illegal, dangerous abortions will be performed…as happened in the past in America before Roe vs. Wade.
Heckuva job, Kennedy. Heckuva job.
We have to examine why we progressive, intelligent, witty, literate writers and bloggers and citizens have been continually crushed and blown away by the Orwellian language contraptions the Right spews out with ease. Why aren’t we putting our minds and time and PR people into coming up with some counter-smoke? Doesn’t “Cut and Run” really stand for “Cutting taxes for the wealthy and running up the deficit”? Whatever their bullshit slogans are, we should have an equally effective and pithy retort. 75% of the battle is the battle over who controls the language. With the skills we have I believe we can “take back the language” if we put some significant effort into it.
Partially born again X-ians don’t believe in “thou shalt not kill” when it comes to ferners.
Next time you hear it, please raise your hand and object.
Or better yet, cancel your subscription and/or write a letter explaining why you will no longer patronize the establishment where you heard it.
Vote with your pocketbook – it’s the only language your opponents understand. They don’t really care if what they say or write pisses you off as long as you keep reading, watching, or listening.
But they’ll care if you no longer patronize them. An example: Maureen Dowd. If half the New York Times’ subscriber base cancelled their subscriptions because they were sick of her bullshit, her skinny little ass would be out on the sidewalk just like that, and you can take that to the bank.
I am at a loss as to why supporters of this procedure haven’t come out to explain the major reason for this late term option. It is my understanding that the main purpose was to abort severly hydrocephalic fetuses. At least that is what President Clinton said when explaining his veto. Of course the fact that there is no protection for women in the bill was also mentioned. I am pro choice, but saw no reason to destroy a late term fetus that could be safely removed, thereby eliminating the hazard to the mother. Once I heard the explanation about the procedure it started to make sense. Why have the womens groups been so silent about this?
Sticking with a misleading line seems to be the MSM way. Several years ago the newspapers were widely and incorrectly characterizing a form of stock market trading that was the rage among Wall Street firms, so as to create among the public a wildly inaccurate understanding. I did this specialized trading for a major firm. When I contacted Wall Street Journal reporters to point out the problem, the told me that yes, they knew the characterization was wrong, but it would just confuse people to start reporting it correctly. Do they teach this at journalism school? Seriously. It seems to be the industry standard.