
(Peanut butter jar remnants photo via Dr. Stephen Dann.)
As the mother of a healthy, growing preschooler — who also happens to be a bit of a picky eater, but loves peanut butter toast — this is not only infuriating, it is downright terrifying:
The Food and Drug Administration has known for years about contamination problems at a Georgia peanut butter plant and on California spinach farms that led to disease outbreaks that killed three people, sickened hundreds, and forced one of the biggest product recalls in U.S. history, documents and interviews show.
Overwhelmed by huge growth in the number of food processors and imports, however, the agency took only limited steps to address the problems and relied on producers to police themselves, according to agency documents…. (emphasis mine)
They knew — KNEW! — for years that there was a problem but relied on the companies to "police themselves"??!!?? Are they completely daft? (Don't answer that.)
As a mother, the thought that the FDA knew that my child, and every other peanut butter eating child in America, could potentially contract salmonella poisoning from a plant with a history of contamination issues but just kept right on allowing that company to manufacture the peanut butter without ensuring the safety of the product? Even after the contamination was discovered? That is beyond incompetent and negligent. Especially when you consider just how deadly salmonella can be to a small child. And if you consider how many kids with compromised immune systems could be added into the mix with a food substance that kids eat by the jar on a weekly basis? Or how many poor kids whose families can afford peanut butter as a staple for these kids, and who depend on this as a means of feeding the family several days a week for lunch and/or dinner? Uh. Mah. Gawd.
As a former prosecutor, the words that I'm looking for are alleged criminal negligence and/or manslaughter. This is beyond infuriating and, as a parent, I am now asking myself "what else?" Beyond tainted peanut butter and spinach, what else is getting into our food supply that the FDA knows is a problem but isn't bothering to tell the public about it? And, here's a question, if the FDA knew that there was a problem — then did these manufacturing and processing facilities also know and just keep right on churning this tainted food into the grocery stores anyway?
Here's a clue: you know of a problem in the food supply that could kill my child, the answer is not to keep your mouth shut and hope that the problem magically disappears on its own because the corporation might just be run by some good citizen who will shut down production, not worry about immediate bottom line profits and do the right thing. Nuh uh. You shut down production immediately, you fix the problem and you do not endanger my child. Is that clear enough for you?
Speaking on behalf of infuriated mothers everywhere today, let me just say this: do this again, be this lax about our children's safety? You are getting more than a time out, mister.
Howie has much more on this and the danger to our pets from the same sort of negligent nonchalance. (H/T to Valley Girl for the link.)
PS — Mess with my chocolate, and I will personally start kicking asses. Don't test me on this one. More from C&L.
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Christy!
HA! Zed
Peanut!
WOOT!
trifecta!?
(((((FDL))))
FITZ!
Choholics of the World, unite!
The only thing we have to lose is the cocoa butter!
That story is freaking astonishing.
Sorry to EPU, but I thought this was important:
Speaking of interesting graphics that make you go WOW, check this article & graphics out from ePluribusmedia.
Rove-ing emails: what else could go missing?
The people running the underground US House of Representatives “political” servers and the official GOP servers are sleeping in the very same bed. The graphics here make it very clear to see.
Brisingamen @ 7
Edited for spelling…
I just put this on the last thread, but what about the Mad Cow cover up!?
People fired for finding cows contaminated with Mad Cow. Beef regulators not allowing independent inspections of cows. It all stinks. It was all reported in the papers, but for some reason, nobody really cared and it just went away. They blamed it on Canada.
Makes you wonder how much they contribute to BushCo, now doesn’t it?
Bush’s America — with everyone with means policing themselves while the rest of us up and die. They call this neo-conservatism? Neo-feudalism is more like it.
Jeebus H Christ, the whole point of the FDA is to keep stuff like this from happening. When did it become acceptable for the foxes to guard the chickenhouses (or, to put it more bluntly, for companies to tell the FDA ‘Nothing to see here, just keep moving, please’)?
What will it take to get this mess straightened out: to get businesses out of ‘regulating’ themeselves and to get Congress and the rest of government to do proper non-partisan oversight?
Christy, I’m surprised there isn’t/wasn’t a class action suit on the peanut butter fiasco.
I don’t want my Chocolate Corrupted like everything else the Bushhie touch!!
R**se’s peanutbutter cups are in double danger.
As a life-long peanut butter junkie AND choco-holic, these a**-wipes are messing in the wrong areas. They are screwin’ around with the very basic fundamentals of the food chain here. I was a picky-eater as a kid (and still am to a large extent), but I could live on Ch*erios, chocolate, and peanut butter and mayo sandwiches (please do not turn your nose up at that one, just try a half sandwich sometime – very creamy but tasty – as the Frugal Gourmet said as he ate one on camera one day – don’t knock it if ya ain’t tried it).
Seriously, if they have known about these problems for years, couldn’t it be considered a criminal conspiracy between the companies and the gov’t? RICO? I realize it is bidness as usual for BushCo but still…
this had me hopping mad when I saw it early last evening -
my first response ? started googling Brackett – he is not a crony or graduate of Blessed Virgin School of Public Health – he appears to be a real scientist/chemist – yeah, an ideological idiot but a scientist
Brisingamen @ 9
For you SF bay chocoholics our all time favorite source of world class chocalates is the great old Michael Mischer Chocolates on Grand Avenue in Oakland – http://www.michaelmischerchocolates.com – sorry haven’t yet mastered the hidden linky magic.
Sad but not surprising. Everything they touch turns to shit.
Is it just me, or are others getting numb to the scandal/outrage du jour from this corrupt stinkbomb of an administraion?
I mean really, my small little mind can only hold so much, and now that the oversight “light” is on even I’m amazed at how many roaches are scurrying about.
The DOJ, EPA, FDA, GSA all up to their eyeteeth in political hackery if not outright scandal. The cleanup of all this will take years.
So now, all I have capacity for is anything to do with endgame. You know, locating the e-mails, committee hearings, resignations and the like. Anything else about these crooks goes into my “water is wet” category.
AZ Matt @ 17
And if BushCo, succeeds, I have no idea what I’m going to keep in the freezer for the quick choco snack. Right now, it’s a bowl filled with Reese’s minatures but those will be gone if these clowns get their way.
How long before the Administration blames Jimmy Carter?
My seven-year-old eats very little besides peanut butter (talk about picky eaters). He just decided he might possibly eat a raw spinach leaf … just as they pulled all the spinach off the shelves. “Sorry, honey, you can’t have spinach it might be contaminated.” How does one try to introduce new foods — and GREEN ones at that! — and not scare the child from veggies forever because they might make you sick?
Its absolutely infuriating.
maybe if we were all fetuses we could get some government protection
Christy, I think you left out a couple more words, like “Conspiracy to obstruct.” If folks knew, and deliberately refused to act, and other discovered this, and refused to call in other authorities . . . IANAL, but it smells like the legal definition of conspiracy to me.
Your words go for us mothers of the male variety, too. My little one is very adventurous in his eating — he loves calimari, for instance — but is also an absolute fanatic about getting his midday PBJ.
I don’t know what the federal guidelines on timeouts call for, but 20 years to life might be a place to start.
Thanks for picking this up CHristy. I wrote this on the end of the last thread and it is very on topic to your new discussion.
The gutting of the FDA has been going on for years. Agrabusiness has demanded it.
The Problem with food contamination isn’t just because of the gutting of the FDA and the breakdown of Government. The Clinton’s did little to address the issue too. The lack of regulation and the rise of powerful agribusiness firms over the last 40 years has made things completely untenable.
A case in point is meat packing and hamburger. (I get this info from my husband’s family who owned a meat packing plant back when their employess could send their kids to college, before Nafta turned them into sweat shops in order to keep up with the giants in the US and Mexico.) It use to be that the scraps were ground into hamburger at a local plant and sent to the local market. Now it is shipped to a vat at a central prosessing plant with all the other scraps from around the county. This is then processed into hamburger sent out to a lot of chains. One bad cow and you have a huge batch of tainted meat. And the number of inspectors has dropped to the point where they are hardly ever there to test it. That’s how a fast food hambuger becomes a game of Russian roulette. My husband banned us from fast food resaturants almost 10 years ago. He thought it would be an outbreak of TB not E Coli but his fears were justified.
Your best defense it to support local farmers.
OT: Sorry but this is too funny, and sorta goes with kids and peanut butter:
Shorter Dana Perino, speaking for Bush at the WH Presser re: Reid calling Bush “in a state of denial about ‘Progress’ in Iraq”
“I know you are, but what am I?”
please pardon me whilst I go totally off-topic for a moment:
As a life-long peanut butter junkie AND choco-holic, these a**-wipes are messing in the wrong areas.
Last Thursday, I saw a van go by the the worst business name ever – *Ash Wipers*.
They were chimney sweeps.
“Self-policing” is like “voluntary compliance”; to a corporation, it means something they pretend to agree to for the PR value and totally ignore in practice.
BushCo would have let the Manson family “self-police”, if they had formed a corporation and hired Repub lobbyists.
Christy said:
I hear this logic all the time from my sister. “Let the market decide – Corporations know that selling poison peanut butter will affect their bottom line, so they will do ‘everything in their power’ to police themselves.”
[CHS notes: Absolutely no references to violence against public officials. Period. Even if you are kidding.]
Hi Firepups. I’ve been working with some bloggers on the contaminated pet food issues.
Over at Pet Connection the self reported number of pets that have died from tainted food is over 4,000. That’s right, not 16 as the FDA keeps reporting as the only official number.
Because the FDA doesn’t have the resources to actual look at all the dead pets they keep reporting that number even after the state vet groups have officially reported many more.
The FDA also doesn’t have the power to force recalls on pet food. They are voluntary.
The FDA also hasn’t been compelling people to report WHO they sold the contaminated wheat, rice and corn gluten from China to.
There for companies (ChemNutra and Wilbur-Ellis) that sold the tainted gluten to companies didn’t have to reveal the names of the pet food companies that they sold that gluten too!
The brilliant Nikki from Howl911.com pointed out how crazy it is that companies and now countries won’t work harder and tell people faster the information they need regarding a safe food supply. She said can you imagine this news alert?
This is unconceivable. Yet, when it comes to our pets this is what we get.
Today it’s pet food. Tomorrow it WILL be people food.
Sen. Dick Durbin did a great job grilling the pet food industry execs. Here is a link to the video clips I posted. (Durbin interviews Pet Food Industry exec.)
Sen. Durbin also made the brilliant move of asking the pet owners what kind of real regulation that they should expect from the pet food industry. For once maybe the lobbyists won’t write the bill regulating themselves!
Follow the money – the plant was owned by ConAgra.
Melissa @ 24
Your little fellow might like Edamame and it is usually in the frozen food category either in shelled or whole pod. Great finger food and oh so nutritious for young and old.
Christy,
Peanuts are loaded with mold. I get headaches and after years of food diaries etc., I have had to eliminate so many foods. Thank God (or Glaxo) for Im*trex. Restaurants are off limits for me too. Most restaurants don’t even wash the vegetables even for salads and raw dishes. I am serious. As far as chocolate only 99% cacau for lolo. I sweeten it with agave or eat it unsweetened. I know I am a fanatic, no dairy, beef, refined, fake, pork, anything in a can, it has to be a real
isolated food. It is the only way I can control headaches and flares from the rare autoimmune disease that I have. It is a jungle out there and forget anything imported from a different country. Cloned beef and milk anyone”?
lolo (doing the zed dance)
My dog Jake just asked me if he would be put on the no fly list
if he sent his Iams dog sample(tainted food) packet to the FDA
as well as a case of Georgia peanut butter to GWB at the House of
Shame in DC. Told him to save his money and buy a plane ticket
to Spain. He is so fed up that he has stopped reading entrails.
All he says now is that it is time to Impeach the Bastards-run them
out of town, Disgust is his look these days.
Going to let him run alongside the tractor this morning. We are out
to rip some Earth for Spring planting. We all have to eat good food
and no longer take in the ………. from this government.
YOYO
OMG, Dana Perino ACTUALLY SAID the reason that Abu Gonzales said “I don’t recall” over 70 times, was because THE SAME QUESTIONS WERE ASKED OF HIM OVER AND OVER.”
Could someone check wiki for me and see if she graduated from Regent University. My eyes are swollen from laughing so hard i’m crying at her idiocy.
Georgesimian @ 11
I agree. I have a lot of concern about mad cow and how we’re screwing up the foodchain with contaminated and completely unnatural feed. I know someone who died mysteriously of CJD in the US under very unusual circumstances that may have been tied to the care of animals. I think many companies add a lot of fillers to pet feed that will come to haunt our health.
The government indifference to oversight and regulation of companies is going to hurt people. I’m not surprised that our government has become more lax and “trusting” of companies to self-regulate in the past six years.
OMG! Fuckety, fucking, fuck! Why does anything these fuckers do shock me. They really don’t give a flying fuck about anything but corporate welfare and a woman’s uterus.
Jacqrat @ 39
And she won’t be pressed on it. In the warm, sweet afterglow of the WHCA dinner, all is schmoozy and loverly. Cigarette anyone?
AZ Matt @ 15
make your own it’s fun and easy.
More Tests at Quarantined Hog Farm
This Administration, and their fellow travellers have ALWAYS been against the regulatory state. It is ALWAYS profits before people. A cursory glance at the industrial food industry will reveal increased speeding up of the processing – both in the farm sheds and on the killing floor, centralization of the process on large lots, and increased reliance on immrigrant labor. Costs are for socializing and profits are for privatizing. We the people get scant info which sadly is the latest food borne illness, be it salmonella, listeria, or e-coli. We have returned to the golden age of industry – the beginning of the 20th century, and this would be a good time to dust of your tattered copy of the Jungle a book the brought this to light and resulted in the creation of the FDA.
My dad was a butcher and meat cutter. In the mid-70’s this centralization began, and his wage earning ability declined (along with other union jobs). He used to receive whole or split carcasses. He was able to find the USDA stampt of approval as well as make the final determination about the quality of each animal, if he believed it was unfit for the intended purpose, it did not make it into the meat counter for purchase by the consumer. He and his coworkers made ground beef from that day’s trimmings. Now, ground beef, from animals of unknown origin or health are ground together (as many as tens of thousands) and then shipped in huge “chubs” to be parcelled out in individual portions for purchase.
How does this benefit the public?
newspaperbrat @
36
Thanks — I’ll try that. We tried to get him to eat sugar snap peas recently …. wouldn’t touch them. He’s also decided he’s a vegetarian, but not swayed by my argument that if he’s a vegetarian he actually has to eat vegetables occasionally.
This problem is endemic in the whole Republican philosophy: people are expendable, profits are not. I am afraid it also reveals the heart of darkness at the core of the core of the capitalist system. Any system which is grounded purely (or even primarily) in personal greed is inherently evil (and I do not use this word lightly). Free market capitalism as favored by the Republicans will invariably and inevitably produce these kinds of results (look at 19th and early 20th century industrial history). Classical liberalism has sought to curb the worst excesses and most flagrant abuses, but has always been fundamentally reactive. I am afraid that the liberal view that you fix the problem by tweak the system is basically flawed. These problems are inherent in the system and can never be eliminated without fundamentally altering the system
In the past few years, I’ve stopped eating American chocolate because it’s already damned awful. The native chocolate uses waaaaay too much sugar and low-quality ingredients.
Want to have a Hershey’s bar the way it tasted back in the old days (but with less sugar so that you can actually taste the chocolate)? Find a Japanese market, and look for anything chocolate with the Meiji label. I have yet to try one of their products that 1) I didn’t like and 2) wasn’t superior to an American equivalent. And that’s if America makes anything like it: Example: the Meiji Black Horn chocolate bars. On second thought, don’t try those. I love being one of the few who knows about these wonderful little treasures. More for me!
Jacqrat @
32
Tell your sister to remember her statements when the next folks die because the corp. decided it was cheaper to pay-off after the fact than to do it correctly from the beginning. BTW, I have the same type person in my wing-nutter brother.
I think the movie Class Action with Hackman is probably on point as well.
My grandfather used to say that the downfall of all of us would be grocery stores. He was a big believer in not eating anything he hadn’t raised himself.
Looks like he was right.
Should the FDA management be required to read The Octopus or The Jungle? There’s also Gilbert and Sullivan’s ’skim milk masquerades as cream’ and (I don’t know the source) ‘Some circumstantial evidence is very strong, such as finding a trout in the milk.’
There’s a really good reason for having outside regulation of businesses.
So it would be fair to say..
Republicans poison their own people and their pets.
and I was worried about bees.
lolo @ 37
I sypathize. My son is allergic (but not deathly) to dairy, wheat, egg, and corn. We rarely eat out, and practically anything in a box or package is off limits. Oh, and mango triggers my migraines. Ack!
musicsleuth @
13
No. This is Murder. Negligent homicide, in lawyer language.
Add this to the list to which Fuckwad the Killer is Responsible.
What’s that Leonard Cohen song about
“I’ve seen the future and it’s murder.” ? (That may not be the title). In it, Leonard mentions Charlie Manson.
George W. Bush is our Charlie Manson President. First Iraq, now this.
Three more words to add to this incredible post: school lunch program.
Screw with one kid — that’s a problem.
Screw with a school of kids — that’s a big problem.
Screw with dozens of schools of kids — that’s . . . unconscionable.
Are none of the FDA folks parents? Do none of them buy the food they oversee?
Should the FDA management be required to read The Octopus or The Jungle?
Read, are you kidding me these people do not read. They should be made to eat everything they believe is contaminated.
Good article in Sunday NYT magazine on food topic: You Are What You Grow, detailing how farm subsidies support least nutricious highest calory foods.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04…..f=magazine
DrDick @ 48
Hate to break it to you but the Clintons and the DLC are just as bad. They gave us NAFTA which has really wrecked havoc on many smaller businesses that took pride in their product: the meat packing business is a perfect example. Once upon a time a worker in a meat packing plant could afford a nice house and to send their kids to college. Now it is a sweat shop and their are no standards.
As for changing the system, Regulations and incentives to support small businesses changed the system very successfully once before and we can do it again. There is a huge and growing local foods campaign in this country. Become a part of it.
Eureka Springs @ 53
But we must continue to worry about bees! It’s just a bigger plate of worry, now.
it’s time to revisit these -
2004
HR339 – Personal Responsibility in Food Consumption Act – sponsored by Rick Keller
and it’s ugly little companion -
S1428 – Common Sense Consumption Act – sponsored by Mitch McConnell (natch)
we then called them the ‘cheeseburger bill’ as they were proposed as a means to limit obesity claims – but at the time many of us were worried the broad language of both was intended to protect Big Food (ADM, ConAgra) from liability/negligence claims period
am googling now to see if either passed – don’t think so, but best to check
P J Evans @ 14
When did it become acceptable? January 20, 2001.
1,495 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’GOEZ ON AND ON AND ..
Citizen Hardin Smith and the Firepup Patriots:
The continuing, daily scandals of the corruption of all the instruments and institutions designed to protect the people and their Constitution, lead us to only one political conclusion: corporations as entities for the consolidation of wealth and the execution of political power must be dismantled. The original language of most instruments of incorporation used to include specific periods of time for incorporation after which the authorization expired. The language also used to include a statement or two about the requirement of the corporate entity to exist for the benefit of the public. Now, since the legal anthropomorphising of corporations with all the rights of an individual in society, corporations exist imperpetuity and certainly have a life expectancy as well as power far beyond that of a human citizen.
It is time to organize the progressive movement around dismantling the existing corporate power structure. To this end, progressives and progressive candidates for office must also champion the idea that federal taxation is for the purpose of advancing the health, safety, and defense of the people. And this should include the redistribution of wealth and the defense against the concentration of wealth as a defense of the individual.
The dismantling of our entire system of protections of health, safety and social/economic opportunity didn’t begin in 2001, it began formally in 1981 and the ideology of corporate fascism swallowed the old Republican Party whole in 1984.
I’m serious, here folks, our Constitution has not yet been corrupted, but the power of the corporations especially as expressed and exercised by the Supreme Court are close to makin’ our sacred document a piece of old toilet paper. If we don’t get the anti-corporate message out and branded on the Democratic Party, then we don’t stand a chance in 2008 no matter who is elected. Mrs. Clinton, the DLC and the A*P*C aparachiks must be isolated from the Democratic Party and exposed for the corporate Quislings they are.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THIS FIGHT WON’T GO TO A DECISION!!!
dakine01 @ 50
After reading some of the comments on this thread, I immediately thought of Class Action too. A real insight to the mindset of Big Corps.
I also thought of the *D* (Big Pharma) part of FDA. Let’s not forget about how the current FDA hands out drug approvals in record time with very little long term knowledge of obvious and/or potential lethal side effects. Vioxx anyone?
I am surprised that many of you are surprised by this. The entire gov’mint is poisoned. I thought we were in agreement with that?!?
OfT:
fresh hell, in Mosul.
Melissa @ 46
Thanks — I’ll try that. We tried to get him to eat sugar snap peas recently …. wouldn’t touch them. He’s also decided he’s a vegetarian, but not swayed by my argument that if he’s a vegetarian he actually has to eat vegetables occasionally.
The edamame in shell may prove a perfect finger food for him – just pop the frozen pods in boiling water, let em drain and cool and show him how to shell them and pop the nutrious little pods in his mouth and he’ll not only feel calm he’ll beg for more. If you have a Trader Joe’s store where you live try theirs – excellent quality and oh so inexpensive. Japanese restaurants offer them as appetizers and what a pleasure for those of us with lingering childhood picky eaters syndrome they are heavenly – like green candy and in my case immediately calm anxiety.
I hear this logic all the time from my sister. “Let the market decide – Corporations know that selling poison peanut butter will affect their bottom line, so they will do ‘everything in their power’ to police themselves.”
I too believe in free markets, but you must have both 1) informed choice and 2) disciplining mechanisms. Two changes would allow “free markets” to operate. a) Let us sue the companies that injure us for damages. b) If internal corporate documents show that management knew of health problems, throw those responsible in jail — forever.
Repubs have a bias against BOTH regulations AND discipline mechanisms (e.g., lawsuits). So, unfortunately, WE reap what THEY sow!!
Bearpaw @ 31
Amen.
Re peanut butter, isn’t it fairly easy to make one’s own? Would this be safer for kids? (I know they probably prefer Skippy’s creaming style, but maybe if they helped to make it they might get hooked on the homemade stuff.) Just a thought.
not null @
26
707!
FDA – the group of clowns that allowed mercury in childhood vaccines. I remember back in the 70s when organic growers were told that they could not market ground peanuts (without added sugar and oil) as peanut butter. Freshly ground nut butters purchased at food co-ops (Mt. People’s Market, Christy)are healthier and better quality. Vegetables in season from local farmers markets are the only answer to a safer food supply. I realize that is not a solution for everyone, but it’s the best we can do until we can get these incompetents and criminals out of our government.
jayt @
30
worst name? you remembered it with one glance at a moving advertisement. it’s funny, to the point, hard to get better than that.
there is an actual grocery chain in Arkansas called “The Mad Butcher”. catchy a name but they had a radio jingle that went “Nobody, but nobody beats the Mad Butcher’s meat!”
There is going to be future disasters with all the Frakenfood that D*W and other corporations have been creating. These fake foods have never been tested. We are the test rats for gene splicing and who knows what else. I was poisoned by a neurotoxin. This has happened to me already. It ruined my life.
lolo
Here is the witness list for the House Energy & Commerce Committee hearing tomorrow on the FDA and food supply: Witness list
We’ve been practicing ‘don’t ask don’t tell’ with our food supply for years. Just try to find out what food we eat has growth hormone or genetically modified material in it.
Anyone can drastically reduce their chances of eating contaminated food. You have the power.
Buy locally produced food, and organic as much as possible. I and many of my friends have been able to for many years, even when times weren’t great financially. It’s all about priorities, and shouldn’t what you put in your body be at or near the top of the list, especially for people with growing children?
The military mission has long since been accomplished. The failure has been political. It has been policy. It has been presidential. – Harry Reid
Who says Reid is spineless? Give ‘em Hell, Harry !!!
update – so called cheeseburger bill did not pass Senate -
per a comment on an earlier thread – can’t help but wonder if this is what scares the bejeepers out of ‘em when it comes to President Edwards
Maybe I missed it, but one of the things I want to see is Democratic outrage about the peanut butter problem. It’s an issue that is naturally Democratic, resonates with parents, and would put Repubs on the defensive trying to defend the market structure that they created (which, by the way, is NOT a free market). We don’t even need more regulations, just COMPETENT enforcement of laws that have been on the books for 75 years or more.
So, have the Dems weighed in on this?
Part of a 2006 interview with Robert Brackett in Food Insight Newsletter:
Food Insight Newsltter
spurious @ 67
Pretty good idea! It’s fairly simple with a food processor or a blender.
OT- Swamped w/work & haven’t read prev. threads since early morning. Perhaps this has already been posted. Larry Johnson’s take on George Tenet’s upcoming book & 60 Minutes appearance update:
Give the Medal Back, George
(I am lousy at putting in links but…) you should also read the column by Peter Kovacs in todays opinion section of the Washington Post called “It’s Not Just Pet Food.”
Scary scary stuff and the writer was president of NutraSweet Kelco Co. from 1994 to 1997. He is a management consultant to many large food ingredient companies.
Damn, I’m scared to eat a Reese’s Peanut Butter Cup now.
From an embedded link at the FDA website:
My bold. No further comment.
I am surprised that many of you are surprised by this. The entire gov’mint is poisoned. I thought we were in agreement with that?!?
Them purple hearts just got poisoned as well.
Are the free market believers willing to die, have their family members die, or have their pets die so that unregulated companies will decide to clean up because it’s better for business?
P J Evans @
52
That’s Buttercup’s “Things are Seldom What They Seem” from H.M.S. Pinafore.
Oh calm down! Don’t you know that the Free Market will eventually take care of this? When the Free Market sees that the peanutbutter they buy for their children is killing their children, the Free Market will force the peanutbutter companies to clean up their act or the Free Market will refuse to buy peanutbutter. All it takes are a few hundred deaths. Much cheaper than the couple million taxpayer dollars it would take to inflict unnecessary regulations on the “few” companies involved. Especially once we pass tort reform to prevent the outrageous and unfair awards that crazed liberal juries hand out to the liars and malingerers that infest our “justice” system for being injured by peanutbutter. And besides, do you really think that the CEOs and Management would stand by and allow their product to harm their customers?
gag, retch.
And don’t count on the grocer to behave in an exemplary way either.
Saturday morning I woke up and clicked on the news.During the usual fluff pieces a special announcement piece came on a bout a beef patty recall affecting 100,000 lbs. of frozen beef patties in Cal., Ore, Wa, And Idaho. Several different name brands.
One hour later I walked into my local grocery and saw several examples of the same frozen patties.
The manager and a clerk were nearby and I asked them if that was the ones being recalled.
They said they had not heard back from an email they had sent the processor.
Waiting for an email about contaminated meat from an outfit probably closed for the weekend.
Oh yeah. Great call.
Mandrake @ 84
Hey, you got your salmonella in my vegetable fat substitute!
TeddySanFran @ 65
this came out yesterday. i think somebody posted it, or, maybe i read it on another blog ……
The US Senate just began today’s session and I’m oh so happy to note Senator James Webb is presiding – lucky egregious and her fellow Virginians. Maybe Boxer & Feinstein will learn how an authentic Democratic leader & U.S. Senator is supposed to lead by doing.
twolf1 @ 90
707!
Is there an age requirement to get this ref? ;-)
Bustednuckles—
When I was on the local board of health we used to check all the stores when there was a recalled item. Not every board takes this responsibility seriously.
Marie Roget @
81
Note to Dems and their allies:- first use Tenet to bring down Bush & Co., then tar and feather Tenet for not speaking out sooner. In all fairness to Tenet, when Clarke & O’Neill spoke up, they were summarily brushed aside by Congress.
mnlurker @ 82
Here is the linky:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01124.html
Anybody want to bet how much of this gets into the mainstream TeeVee news? The local papers?
In the now well-established tradition of short simple answers to complicated questions…
Nada.
Which is weird ’cause all we heard about for weeks was killer organic spinach. Funny that; if it’s organic it’ll make the news: “See? Organic, non-processed food is BAD FOR YOU, it might KILL YOU!”
But if it’s mainstream AgBiz, nah, why bother the viewer’s pretty little heads, right?
mnlurker -
More Than Pet Food – Peter Kovacs / WaPo
oh, and why are we not surprised # 7283
twolf1 @ 89
707!!
A question for those firepups in the know. I have heard that there are only about a dozen food inspectors that work for the FDA. I find that impossible to believe that the number could be that low, but I can’t find any info to either verify or refute that assertion. Does anybody know what the approximate number is and provide a reference. A dozen? For the whole country?
OT – sorry if posted before: Reid: Congress will endorse Iraq pullout
Petrocelli @ 95 says:
Except we have a “new world order” now if you will. The Congress that blew off Clarke & O’Neill was of the Republic persuasion; unlike the exterminators/light shiners of the new Congress.
dakine01 @
102
Except we have a “new world order” now if you will. The Congress that blew off Clarke & O’Neill was of the Republic persuasion; unlike the exterminators/light shiners of the new Congress.
Exactly, and to maximize Tenet’s knowledge, I am suggesting that we not tar and feather him now but use him to bring down Bush & Co.
egregious @ 93
(((((egregious!))))) Your blessed Jim Webb is presiding over the Senate live on CSpan 2 and has that wonderful confident “presidential” persona more and more. You lucky Virginians! ;~)
twolf1 @ 100
Stuff THAT up yer nose, Richard Wollfe!
Bustednuckles @ 89
Bustednuckles, was this recent?
newspaperbrat @ 104
that’s our boy! I am so proud of him I could be his mother. He’s the REAL DEAL. Yay Jim!!
lolo
This past Saturday.
For all I know that meat is still sitting there.
Melissa @
47
I had a kid like that. What made the difference was serving vegetables with a dab of ranch dressing on the side, as a dip. He loved that.
sonate @ 100
There are FDA field enforcement officers and field monitors scattered throughout district and regional offices throughout the country. Inspectors must number more than hundreds. More info here.
I hope Harry Reid (or Dick Durbin, or someone) reaches out to Olympia Snowe with regard to her vote on the Suppplemental. She claims no Democrat has done so:
Is this possible? And mightn’t she reach out?
I do not trust Snowe (and I know she needs to be treated with kid gloves and brought into the light now). But I would like to know if Senate Dems are not reaching out to GOP colleagues, and why not.
o/t via TPM Muck
25 Senators send Josh ‘Hands’ Bolten a letter about Ms. Doan
link
Badwater @ 86
This is one I have been scratching my head over for some time. Thank you for bringing this up. It’s a bit pathological, no?
Christy,
It’s not only salmonella in the human food chain. I can’t find the link just now, but apparently someone’s found the pet food posioning has contaminated more types of raw food proteins than what FDA has reported and has known about. Only after a reporter inquired about some other posioned brands did FDA update its list.
Then there’s this little gem from Waxman’s committee website about lead posioning in vitamins.
Bustednuckles @ 108
Is it this one?
Another food recall is in the news, and Oregon could be affected. 100,000 pounds of pre-formed hamburger patties produced by Richwood Meat Company in Merced, California have been recalled after 3 Napa County chldren were sickened with e.coli in early April. The patties are distrubuted to all West Coast states including Oregon. They are packaged under the names of Chef’s Pride, Ritz Food, Fireriver, Blackwood Farms, Calfornia Pacific Associates, C and C Distributing, Golbon, and Richwood.
as someone who has had this sort of thing in mind for many years, the sudden realization that our food is full of garbage is hardly a revelation.
you are aware that some of the popular peanut butter is made in China? would you eat anything willingly from a country that has killed their rivers and polluted their entire country?
and for those of you that really want to consider what you eat, why would you eat flesh if you know it is contaminated with antibiotics, growth hormones, feces, mercury, heavy metals and numerous other “food additives” Please, the outrage is hardly appropriate considering this is the FDA that is owned by the people that make that crap that the FDA is paid to list as a “food” Everyone else calls it garbage.
please realize what you eat and try to understand that all aspects of dead animal food is another crippling issue for the planet. Not only bird flu, swine flu, cowpox, but the destruction of grazing land, fertilizers and runoff that has destroyed pristine streams, creeks and rivers all over the world.
I hate to be the one that brings news to anyone, but everyone might want to consider WAKING UP.
Speaking on behalf of mothers everywhere who should be “infuriated” about the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi people who are dead due to our invasion of Iraq.
Bustednuckles @ 108
I live in CA and I haven’t heard a word about it until your post. I don’t eat beef so I am not worried about myself, but there is nothing in the news about it.
Cspan2 Cornyn bitching about supplemental
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conniptionfit @ 99
Second that! A good ‘un!
Dee @11:32
Thats the ones.
TeddySanFran @
111
Because Snowe would probably use it as a political club to drub them with…Why doesn’t Snowe reach out to the Democrats?
-GSD
Biodun @ circa 110:
Thanks. I knew that the FDA was understaffed, but that number (12) was ridiculous.
Dear Charles Krauthammer. We sure have let killers “cakewalk in Iraq liars” roam free to propogate more lies about Iran. You sir are one of them ..up to your neck in the Iraqi people’s blood. Iran http://article.nationalreview……VkM2YxYTg=
Here is the link to Krauthammers article
http://article.nationalreview……VkM2YxYTg=
When I indicate sometimes I get extremely annoyed with certain elected members of the party I belong to, here’s a rather perfect example of my not infrequent wrath:
Is Cheney exaggerating the support he sees in Levin? Apparently not. The senior senator from Michigan seems ready to provide additional funding for the war, no matter what. On April 8, right after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid announced he would cosponsor legislation cutting off all funding for combat troops after March 31, 2008, Levin undercut him by telling ABC’s “This Week”: “We’re not going to vote to cut the funding, period. … We’re not going to cut off funding for the troops. We shouldn’t cut off funding for the troops. … We’re going to vote for a bill that funds the troops, period. We’re going to fund the troops. We always have.”
It’s almost enough to make you think there’s a vast right-wing conspiracy against any food that’s really good for us.
Now that chocolate has been demostrated to have some superior nutritional qualities… yep, it’s next to be adulterated beyond belief. (Could BigPharma be behind this? ;~)
I’m already unable to eat wheat/dairy/soy, and I feel better if I avoid peanuts, too (legumes, just like soybeans).
I really, really need a bit of chocolate now and then. Of course, I end up eating the expensive stuff because it’s the only way to avoid the dairy. [sigh]
The fda is fubar & our responsible media can’t be bothered to report on food safety in depth when they have anna nicole stories.
The fda just closed their comment section in early April on the cloned meat & milk products issue. (Center for Food Safety good place for info). The fda feels that meat & milk products from cloned animals is safe, therefore there is no need to label those products as from cloned animals when it is sold in supermarkets, to restaurants or school districts.
It is a lie to say that consumers will determine the popularity of a product if they don’t know what is in the product & the ingredients are hidden. The market doesn’t prevail, the companies do.
RUN AL RUN…PLEASE
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/….._0422.html
Peanut butter, chocolate, cheese, whatever.
You’ve gotta de-tox iffen you want to go back to natural. We’ve been programmed to crave polysatured hydrogented Methyl-Chain aminoheptosilanes (whatever those are or aren’t).
Even the freakin’ premium keepsake tomatoes that appeared about a year ago in the markets are being re-engineered to toughen them for self life & shipping.
[really gonna bail now…chute got hooked on a rivet or something]
later
;)
“Vast right wing conspiracy”? Oh that went away a long time ago. Just ask Sen. (if you don’t like my position on the Iraq war, then vote for someone else) Clinton.
Karen M @ 126
There is a vast right wing (& left wing) conspiracy against food that’s good for you. It’s call farm policy. Read all about it:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04…..f=magazine
Does Hillary ever, ever ‘think’ outside the box?
“The Lobby” debate between Finkelstein and James Petras
http://www.informationclearing…..e17571.htm
kathleen @ 127
DING! DING! DING!
Hope Burns Eternal and as our peerless punsaise says: Accept No Substitutes! :~)
Dee @ 115
thanks!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 132
Uh…no? Is that the right answer? LOL
Farm policy? Welfare for huge corporate agriculture.
Reid is telling the truth.
We can’t win this war.
Bush is more and more delusional..
Can we impeach him for his behavior.
I know this is mostly about food, but let’s not forget NASA, forced to remove Global Warming from its manifesto. More Bushieness.
polysatured hydrogented = polysaturated hydrogenated
…you get the idea.
Geronimooooo!
I haven’t read all comments yet, but this is horrible. When we hopefully take back the government from the corporations running it, we will have a heck of a hard job fixing all that has been deliberately destroyed by the Bush administration. It exhausts me just thinking about it.
Where, oh where are good, honest Republicans on this? We need more than angry progressives or Democrats to fix the entire mess: we need patriots, on the right and the left, to take us back home.
If there are any centerist Republicans/doubters who have come here to read, please speak up. We need you.
Georgesimian @ 139
Bushieness…..It’s Everywhere! It’s Everywhere!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 132
They don’t teach that at Wellesley. In fact, if anything, they teach you not to do that. Can’t get high test marks if you do that.
The deregulation of the Food industry (along with the rest of deregulation) started with Reagan. For example, he fired all the meat inspectors and forced the industry to hire their own, but gave them no oversight. So if an inspector reported bad meat, he could just be fired and replaced.
Wasn’t Reagan the best Republican ever?
U.S. food inspectors overwhelmed by imports
Excerpt:
So an ingredient has to be proven to have killed people before they’ll even inspect it?
oldtree @
116
Monday, Monday, it’s so hard. a ‘hard job’ to do, you see. But bears repeatin’.
no
kathleen @ 124
the competition is like, REALLY stiff, but I do believe is Krauthammer is one of the worst of the wingnut blatherers spewing his garbage in a major newspaper.
Here’s an incredibly powerful letter from an Iraq war widow (and soldier) that a friend sent me earlier today….don’t know if it’s real, but if it is…..wow.
Maybe the U.S. miliary is ready for a mutiny. THat would be a very good thing.
http://www.craigslist.org/abou…..85032.html
Christy, thank you for bringing attention to this issue. I was also appalled when I read about this. We NEED our government to keep our food and water safe.
And let’s not forget the Clean Water Act that actually increased the amount of arsenic allowed in our drinking water. When that was criticized, Bush called the criticism “unfair”.
Brad Blog on the Cummins firing: High-Level White House, DoJ, Rove Operatives Went to Work While now-Fired Prosecutor Bud Cummins Was Building a Case Against Missouri Governor Matt Blunt and the WH Connected MO Law Firm Lathrope & Gage…
lolo @ 118
It was sort of hidden.
What are the signs of a Third World Country….?
1. Unsafe Food and/or Water
2. Military Junta
Hello America…… Welcome to the Third World…
Are you ready for lowered life inexpediency, Increased infant mortality and malnutrition?
Actually, what they want to do with chocolate is to use cheap vegetable oil (or more likely shortening) in place of cocoa butter, which is expensive. They’d do this in the low-end products … at least at first. If no one complains about it, somewhere down the road, they’d extend it to all but the top-end stuff. (Maybe the midrange would have enough cocoa butter to be passable.)
Hershey, incidentally, owns Scharffen Berger, and, I’ve heard, Dagobah. They also make Reese’s, and, under license, the US version of Cadbury’s. Guess which chocolate company is pushing for the rule change.
Bay State Librul @ 137
Well, here in California the short answer thus far from Boxer & Feinstein is NO and not a peep thus far from any of our congresscriters. Defies all logic and why more constituents aren’t taking to the streets is simply beyond this ole brat’s comprehension.
cbl @ 147
(pix link (no)) Very good. I like that! ;0)
kathleen @ 123
Thanks so much, but no thanks.
My health will not tolerate reading him, ever. I am also on very monitored doses of Will and Cohen. I have special deep-breathing exercises for Broder, but I’ve not read an entire column of his in three weeks. (*g* but true!)
For chocolate, I always read the label. I only get the chocolate that has real vanilla in it. The other stuff, called “vanillin” is artificial – and a tip-off to artificial other things.
This interesting snippet from the NYTimes Magazine article by Michael Pollan:
spurious @ 152
Exactly. This is the kind of news that SHOULD be hidden rather than broadcast widely, right ???
{sarcasm}
Policing themselves…this is what Bush did in Texas with plants that polluted. As long as the plant reported that they had found the leak themselves there was no penalty. This was done to preclude the need for a regulatory entity. That’s how they shrunk the bureaucracy.
At least the bureaucracy that they hated. When Norquist and his anti-government hacks talk about drowning government in the bathtubm they refer to all the career bureaucrats who work at agencies that would have the chutzpah to try levying a fine against a corporate wrongdoer.
This is about shrinking the regulatory agencies while expanding government to unheard of heights. The Department of Homeland Security is a huge agency. To make room for it how did they shrink the government? By getting rid of auditors in the IRS who worked on recovering money from rich taxpayers; by getting rid of scientists and professionals in the EPA and NIH.
It’s never been about safety…hell. Sinclair Lewis would feel right at home in the butcher’s section behind the glass at your local supermarket. You don’t want to know how much disease is cut out of the meat AFTER it’s been inspected and delivered to your local store. I know three guys who are butchers…two of them and their families are vegetarians when it comes to what they eat.
Our regulatory agencies were already a joke: The FDA can not order a food recall nor can it order that a drug be taken off the market.
How much longer until people realize just how close we are to being in the same condition as a country as we were back before the Sherman Anti-Trust Act? That’s what these bastards are shooting for, a complete rollback of every single bit of progressive legislation that was ever passed to benefit the people of this country.
The sad truth is nothing is going to change in this country without a very bloody internecine fight and it’s going to take thousands of people becoming sick and watching their children die from bad food and unregulated medicines before a majority of Americans finally wake up and realize that what’s good for business is NEVER good for people who don’t benefit from the business.
I need my cocoa butter in my chocolate. Everyday! Fact of the matter is it’s time for a 3 Musketeers right now.
Joseph Stiglitz wrote about the capture theory of regulators back in the 1960s, IIRC. The hpothesis was that the regulated industry knew more about the industry than the regulators, so the latter tended to gradually get coopted by the industry. The good governance implication was that regulators had to be supervised to minimize this inherent problem of regulation. Instead, the Bushies have taken the hypothesis as a roadmap. There’s a great example in the Rummy bio discussed here in book salon a couple of weeks age. When he was at Searle, he basically waited until the Rs took over govt, planted folks in FDA & got aspartame approved.
TeddySF,
probably a good thing you’re still not reading Broder – he bounced back to life today with a column about Reid ‘embarassing’ the Dems
and speaking of mutineers in the Military -
via TPM
golly, don’t tell Broder
Thanks for the link, eCAHN, at 131. I will check it out.
OT, but possibly breaking news of interest here…
Reid is threatening a tougher bill (I think) in response to Bush’s promised veto.
via Huffington Post
TeddySanFran @ 157
I read ‘em, I throw up, I stop.
Biodun @ 159
WOW! I know this is true from my own experience. If I am out and want a snack, or the kids want a snack, it is always cheaper to buy junk than real food.
Georgesimian @ 144
He also let his buddy Rumsfeld sneak Nutr*sweet legislation through after it was proved to be a neurotoxin and a chemical considered for use in bioterrorism. huh??
conniptionfit @ 105
Stuff THAT up yer nose, Richard Wollfe!
You just reminded me of a phrase that I heard as a kid. When someone said something that left this guy I knew stupified, he would reply, “oh yeah, well peanut butter up your nose!” How appropriate for this thread.
lolo @ 168
As soon as the American public figures out how evil deregulation is, it will be easy to kick these repubs out of office. Easier anyway.
I read somewhere that if there is one thing you should buy organic, it’s peanuts and P.B.. Peanuts absorb toxins more than any other food— was the reasoning. So, I’ve been doing that for several years and add a little Celtic salt to flavor it.
The FDA can not order a food recall nor can it order that a drug be taken off the market.
Not true. Think Vioxx, think Cylert (used for ADHD and narcolepsy – and they did it without public awareness and at the behest of one of Nader’s brainchildren). They basically have to be told that people have died before they’ll take action. With Cylert, there were something like 13 kids who had liver failure, out of several thousand, mostly adults, who used it.
Recent brief ThinkProgress post:
Senators press White House on political activities
Bradblog’s onto something regarding Cummins firing. This is a link from Bradblog’s post. Basically, Cummins was investigating and when it came to light, he got axed. Bradblog has this link downloaded, in case it gets scrubbed:
http://www.lathropgage.com/fil…..Insert.pdf
Late to this post, but a couple of points:
The FDA and the CDC have suffered tremendous “bright flight” since Bush tok office. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution has done some decent reporting about the exodus of scientists and career professionals from the CDC. Julie Gerberding is taking that agency down in flames. The agency that is the sole warning system for pandemics, public health menaces, and the health and safety of us all.
The FDA is an organizational nightmare, and its director von Eschenbach, was confirmed only after prolonged political footsie.
I strongly urge everyone to assume that no governmental agency is working in the public interest, has no expertise to make timely and accurate recommendations, and is reliable.
In other words, the guv’mint done been drownded, and you are on your own – no life raft and no one to rescue you.
Karen M @ 164
Biodun @ 158 has money quote from the article.
It would be great if Reid came back from veto with tougher bill. I’m keeping my fingers crossed. Thought his speech today was quite good. Told it like it is in simple declarative sentences, words of one syllable.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 132
Only if her pollsters and media advisers tell her to think outside the box, and that only happens when the rest of her competitors have already thought outside the box and been rewarded for it.
N=1 @ 175
How about the GPO? They seen to be okay, so far.
All this pussy-footing around. Set a date. Cut off the funds. This is not a difficult concept.
Correction:
Prez Carter was one who started deregulation. Primarily transportation–airlines, RRs, can’t remember if he did trucking too. Also started financial market deregulation, by gradually eliminating ceilings on interest rates that could be paid on savings accounts.
P J Evans @ 153
I eat Scharffen Berger 99% cacao. I love it. I didn’t know that Hersey owned it. Hersey chocolate is bioengineered so I don’t eat it.
Lindt 85% Cocoa.
Ingredients:
Chocolate, Cocoa Powder, Cocoa Butter, Sugar, Vanilla. (Notice that sugar is almost last.)
Health food extraordinaire Simply the best. Available in supermarkets.
OT: Henry Waxman is putting more pressure on A. Card
Go Henry!
He provides many serious violations of security protocol by WH officials and concludes:
Texas Betsy – your UPS package was traced to your UPS center there – my bad for I neglected to include your specific apt number – they now have. You may want to call them to confirm by number 28132851 from me to thee for immediate delivery time at your convenience. Mea Culpa – :~(
Everyone finish up your p&j sandwiches; Jane has an announcement on the next thread.
landofthefree @ 177
And by that time, of course, it’s inside the box. Hence the answer is still: “never”.
newspaperbrat @ 183
Thanks. I will call if it does not arrive today. Thanks again!
I like Jimmy Carter very much.
FYI, Jane is upstairs
PJ Evans @ 178: That’s one I haven’t followed closely. Got any links? Thanks-
Thor Hearne:
I was asked by President Bush’s uncle,
Bucky Bush, to be the general counsel to
the Bush-Cheney campaign in Missouri
in the fall of 2003. (I had worked with the
Bush campaign in 2000 and successfully
represented the campaign in the City of
St. Louis poll closing litigation and in
Florida in 2000 in Broward County.) During
the Republican National Convention in
August 2004, I was asked to be national
counsel to the campaign and advise the
campaign on not just Missouri legal
issues but national legal strategy and
election litigation.
This position involved recruiting and
organizing a legal team in each
battleground state and specifically in
each major contested county. This is
where I picked up on the work already
done by Ben Ginsberg. Additionally, I
advised the campaign – Ken Mehlman
(campaign manager), Tom Josefiak (in-house general counsel), Terry
Nelson, (political director), Coddy Johnson and others on both legal
strategy and specific litigation that could affect the election.
There were more than 65 different lawsuits that the Kerry campaign,
Democrat party organizations and their proxy groups filed during the
three months leading up to Election Day. Of these lawsuits, every
one was successfully resolved in favor of the Republicans. The cases
included obtaining injunctions and restraining orders against the
Democrat National Committee and Democrat state parties and some
Democrat allied third party organizations in Ohio and Florida.
When you rely on self-regulation it usually ends up punishing the good businesses, because they’re less willing to compromise quality, be it the product or employee welfare. In the food business – 1) they’re less competitive if they’re not willing to take shortcuts that could lead to contamination; and 2) when an outbreak occurs, all of the businesses suffer, whether or not they’re culpable.
N=1 @ 190
No, I was at a trade show this weekend where they had a booth. They were looking for printing contracts, I think. [There was some DoJ contractor also looking for business, claiming they can do it cheaper in prisons than overseas. (Yeah, but that’s because prisoners are just this side of slave labor.)]
West Virginia had two booths there. (Looking for businesses to move in, I assume.) I thought of Christy right away.
Recall of beef because of E.coli. Now they are checking to see if the Chinese gluten that has been killing pets was put into pig feed…. and thus onto our tables.
http://rantsfromtherookery.blo…..in-it.html
It’s now like it was a secret how bad the FDA is, suprised you haven’t been buying organic. And it tastes better,
A tip for making natural peanut butter (non-hydrogenated) easier to use…
Mix a little honey into it, and then it won’t slide off the bread.
[sigh] Of course, that presumes we will still be able to buy honey.
As for chocolate, I’ve learned to eat less, so I’m sticking with Green & Black’s for now.
“This administration does not like regulation, this administration does not like spending money…… on Americans.
Old-fashioned PB: store it upside down, then when you flip it over to open it, the oil will be on the bottom.
@191
I looked up those cases back in 2006. I’m not sure you’re totally honest- seems to me. But why is that not surprising.
Christy, you might want to read my diary Saturday at DKos:
“CRIMINAL Probe Opened in Pet Food Scare: YOUR Food Affected“
ALSO OF NOTE from my diary (which also quotes Sen. Dick Durbin’s MANY efforts, as a longtime “food safety” expert) — let’s all check in on tomorrow’s House hearing:
“Diminished Capacity: Can the FDA Assure the Safety and Security of the Nation’s Food Supply?”
Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations
Committee on Energy and Commerce
Tuesday, April 24 at 9:30 am ET
This morning’s WaPo article, which you quote, refers to a group that I looked up:
Coalition For a Stronger FDA
– I signed up for its newsletter — its fact page is a pithy rundown on the FDA’s problems
Then there’s this morning’s A.P. article, which is truly informative if depressing:
“U.S. Food Safety Strained by Imports“
There’s almost no inspection of imported INGREDIENTS as well as food.
For ongoing, always-updated information on the ramifications of the pet food recall, which began this flurry of news articles — our poor pets are the canaries in the coal mine! — visit these terrific blogs: Itchmo! — which is always posting the latest news — and PetConnection. PetConnection’s syndicated columnists sit in on every FDA press conference, provide live blogging, and post-conference commentary.
oddmommy @
148
I read that a couple of weeks ago from Dallas cr*igslist. There was hope that it would go viral.
No, you’re not getting it. Here’s the way it’s supposed to work:
1) Deaths from government inaction are few enough to allow right wingers to argue that enforcement is not “cost justified.”
2) Regulations are eased as a result.
3) “Tort reform” legislation passes to drastically reduce costs to corporations who kill their customers.
Then, when the inevitable increase in sickness and death results, the media ignores it because it is a “settled issue.” Rich people will avail themselves of higher priced, safer products leading victims to be blamed for eating tainted peanut butter.
It sounds like wingnut paradise.
I finally found a link to something I read last week by Rick Perlstein… very much to the point.
“what else is getting into our food supply that the FDA knows is a problem but isn’t bothering to tell the public about it?”
when you get an answer to that, can we ask them about approving prescription drugs for their friends in Big Pharma using pretty much that same ‘police themselves’ attitude?
this honor system with clinical trial data has been bugging me for years
Slightly OT, but if you really want to get apoplectic (like me!) stop and consider that the CDC has known about the link between vaccines and autism for years, has helped to bury the evidence of it, and went so far as to tell vaccine manufacturers not to bother changing their formulas because to do so would lead to a precipitous drop in autism rates and thus undermine their claim that there’s no link. And now the rate of autism diagnoses is 1 in 150 kids. These people should all be subjected to a John Yoo/Abu Gonzalez sanctioned interrogation until they cough up the documents that rightfully belong to the American people.
Jacqrat @
80
Commercial peanut butters also have a bit of sugar. You could add some molasses or honey. I’ve always used the unsalted Spanish peanuts when making my own; then I can add as much or little salt as I choose. (Not being a kid, I skip the sweet stuff.)
If you are a peanut butter fan or someone feeding a child, find VALENCIA peanut butter, and avoid Spanish peanut butter (the usual sort).
Valencia peanuts are grown in the dry New Mexican climate, and so do not tend to develop the aflatoxin mold which plagues Spanish peanuts. We have known about that contamination problem for 30 years at least.
It also tastes better.
from downwithtyranny:
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I guess that was today.
Interesting that products from “desirable” places often show origin, e.g.: pasta – Italy; cookies – Denmark; chocolate – Switzerland. Seems true even in cut-rate places. Otherwise, many/most labels just name US distributor.
“WTO – Whose Trade Organization?” is dense reading, but illuminating. Book TV did an enlightening interview a while back with the editor – she discussed some of the more egregious labeling/disclosure restrictions.
Given the pet food issues, might be timely to demand US labels show country of origin of product AND all ingredients. If, WTO regs prohibit, time to visit that issue. Market forces alone can’t solve problems if one side of the market is uninformed. Gobsmacking that over 100 brands of pet food originated in one US factory – so much for reliance on brand name/price.
Here is a website that just might help us to keep tabs on upcoming issues at FDA and USDA. This is an action alert, which means they direct you to the PUBLIC COMMENTS section for new guidelines, and the subscription is free.
http://www.organicconsumers.org/
In this issue: public comments extended on cloned foods; raw v. pasteurized almonds; removing the label from irradiated foods (so no one will know).
I think I speak for all parents when I say, “Jeezus fuck, Jif sucks ass. Please get my Peter Pan back on the shelves before I go postal.”
This “concept” of oversight has been in play at least since the early `90s, and it’s got a name: “voluntary compliance.”
The best way to describe it is letting companies do themselves what government previously determined companies would not do and therefore had to be compelled to do by regulation and oversight.
It’s not just the fox in the henhouse. It’s the farmer walking away and expecting the fox not to be a fox….
My dog died a week ago from contaminated dog food. The wheat gluten that killed him was graded “Food” grade not “Feed” grade.
Food grade means it can be used in food for humans like bread products.
The FDA has been under funded by Bush for years.
When the humans start to die from contaminated food that Bush allowed to happen will we just shrug and say “Glad it wasn’t me.”
CNN ran quickly a crawler that stated China has 90% cornered the market on Vitamin C tablets and there’s a problem with them being contaminated (most vitamin C on the market?). I quickly tried to find more on this at the CNN site and googled Chineset Vitaman C ingredients and only found a lawsuit against China having a monopoly. Anyone know how to track this down?
MEG @ 213
MEG, I am very sorry. One of the reasons this has bothered me is that I watched two of my beloved older cats die from kidney failure in a short space of time. (I try not to think of the human food chain.)It’s an awful thing to watch and common in older animals. But how common within a short space of time? Both my cats were on a prescription diet, and I was horrified when I saw that prescription diets were listed among recalls. Contamination has caused kidney failure in dogs in Asia (Thai product) some years back. This isn’t just an “incident” as ChimpCo would have us believe. It’s the failure of government to regulate. And I expect some vet association to file a lawsuit, because their reputations suffer when prescription diets are sold to sick animals. Maybe we will get some answers then.
“Corporate CEOs Gone Wild!!!!”
Sounds like a title to some video.
“Corporate CEOs Gone Insane!!!!”
“Corporate CEOs Gone Stupid!!!!”
Take your pick.
One more Bush initiative that needs investigation? Of course. Remember who is heading up the FDA? Can we survive 20 more months? God help the US.