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		<title>By: bilbo in az</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/21/pull-up-a-chair-44/#comment-641433</link>
		<dc:creator>bilbo in az</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 06:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-641431&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;bilbo in az @ 230&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I live in glendale, az and have citrus tress and flowers and for the last two years have had very few bees, thus my fruit crops have been almost none in the past three years.  Past years the trees were loaded with bees.  There is a problem!!!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>I live in glendale, az and have citrus tress and flowers and for the last two years have had very few bees, thus my fruit crops have been almost none in the past three years.  Past years the trees were loaded with bees.  There is a problem!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: bilbo in az</title>
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		<dc:creator>bilbo in az</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 06:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I live in glendale, az and have citrus tress and flowers and for the last two years have had very few bees, thus my fruit crops have been almost none in the past three years.  Past years the trees were loaded with bees.  There is a problem!!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in glendale, az and have citrus tress and flowers and for the last two years have had very few bees, thus my fruit crops have been almost none in the past three years.  Past years the trees were loaded with bees.  There is a problem!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Butler</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/21/pull-up-a-chair-44/#comment-641007</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Butler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 02:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I too am more than a little concerned about CCD, but a little research on academic and beekeeper web sites show the power line, genetic engineering, cell phone tower and russian mind control device theories unconvincing.  Such causes would be easy to isolate to specific locations.  No such correlation exists.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This has not been the first bee disease to show this sort of symptom.  Others have come, run their course, and faded.  There is reason for concern, but not for panic.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am more than a little concerned about CCD, but a little research on academic and beekeeper web sites show the power line, genetic engineering, cell phone tower and russian mind control device theories unconvincing.  Such causes would be easy to isolate to specific locations.  No such correlation exists.</p>
<p>This has not been the first bee disease to show this sort of symptom.  Others have come, run their course, and faded.  There is reason for concern, but not for panic.</p>
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		<title>By: dude</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/21/pull-up-a-chair-44/#comment-640694</link>
		<dc:creator>dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 22:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry for the double post. My browser is being eccentric today.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the double post. My browser is being eccentric today.</p>
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		<title>By: dude</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/21/pull-up-a-chair-44/#comment-640653</link>
		<dc:creator>dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 22:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry for the double post.  Case of wild fingers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One of the biggest spec-builder offenders in my view is Centex homes. I think they are from (where else?) Texas.  They make stick-built balloons for the masses. Not a tree on their lots. True builders in the tradition of ticky-tacky.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the double post.  Case of wild fingers.</p>
<p>One of the biggest spec-builder offenders in my view is Centex homes. I think they are from (where else?) Texas.  They make stick-built balloons for the masses. Not a tree on their lots. True builders in the tradition of ticky-tacky.</p>
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		<title>By: dude</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/21/pull-up-a-chair-44/#comment-640647</link>
		<dc:creator>dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 22:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-640015&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;PeteCO @&lt;br /&gt;
                158              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-639998&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;sofistic @ 142&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;There seems to be a movement afoot for tiny houses.  here is a link to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.resourcesforlife.com/groups/smallhousesociety/&quot;&gt;The Small House Society&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It doesn’t have to be tiny (sub-600 sq’), it just doesn’t need to be 4000 sq’of mostly empty space (great-room-cathedral-ceiling nonsense) like you see in the sprawlburbs that spoil the view hereabouts. One of the biggest impediments to curbing US dependence on foreign oil is the growth of auto-dependent exurbs. I would welcome $5 or $6 gas- it might stop this stupidity.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;McMansions are not going away so long as people simply think having more square feet at a lower cost per square foot is better than having fewer quality square feet and a higher cost per square foot.  By quality, I include all sorts of things which run counter to market thinking:  greener, more traditional materials; spaces which are suited to the occupant who lives there, not to some generic “buyer” who a demographic, not a person; energy efficient in its entire integrated make-up; and not a slave to McMansion style-books.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-640015"><em>PeteCO @<br />
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<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-639998"><em>sofistic @ 142</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>There seems to be a movement afoot for tiny houses.  here is a link to <a href="http://www.resourcesforlife.com/groups/smallhousesociety/">The Small House Society</a></p>
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<p>It doesn’t have to be tiny (sub-600 sq’), it just doesn’t need to be 4000 sq’of mostly empty space (great-room-cathedral-ceiling nonsense) like you see in the sprawlburbs that spoil the view hereabouts. One of the biggest impediments to curbing US dependence on foreign oil is the growth of auto-dependent exurbs. I would welcome $5 or $6 gas- it might stop this stupidity.</p>
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<p>McMansions are not going away so long as people simply think having more square feet at a lower cost per square foot is better than having fewer quality square feet and a higher cost per square foot.  By quality, I include all sorts of things which run counter to market thinking:  greener, more traditional materials; spaces which are suited to the occupant who lives there, not to some generic “buyer” who a demographic, not a person; energy efficient in its entire integrated make-up; and not a slave to McMansion style-books.</p>
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		<title>By: dude</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/21/pull-up-a-chair-44/#comment-640642</link>
		<dc:creator>dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 22:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-640015&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;PeteCO @&lt;br /&gt;
                158              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-639998&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;sofistic @ 142&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;There seems to be a movement afoot for tiny houses.  here is a link to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.resourcesforlife.com/groups/smallhousesociety/&quot;&gt;The Small House Society&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It doesn’t have to be tiny (sub-600 sq’), it just doesn’t need to be 4000 sq’of mostly empty space (great-room-cathedral-ceiling nonsense) like you see in the sprawlburbs that spoil the view hereabouts. One of the biggest impediments to curbing US dependence on foreign oil is the growth of auto-dependent exurbs. I would welcome $5 or $6 gas- it might stop this stupidity.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;McMansions are not going away so long as people simply think being more square feet at a lower cost per square foot is better than having fewer quality square feet and a higher cost per square foot.  By quality, I include all sorts of things which run counter to market thinking:  greener, more traditional materials; spaces which are suited to the occupant who lives there, not to some generic “buyer” who a demographic, not a person; energy efficient in its entire integrated make-up; and not a slave to McMansion style-books.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-640015"><em>PeteCO @<br />
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<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-639998"><em>sofistic @ 142</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>There seems to be a movement afoot for tiny houses.  here is a link to <a href="http://www.resourcesforlife.com/groups/smallhousesociety/">The Small House Society</a></p>
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<p>It doesn’t have to be tiny (sub-600 sq’), it just doesn’t need to be 4000 sq’of mostly empty space (great-room-cathedral-ceiling nonsense) like you see in the sprawlburbs that spoil the view hereabouts. One of the biggest impediments to curbing US dependence on foreign oil is the growth of auto-dependent exurbs. I would welcome $5 or $6 gas- it might stop this stupidity.</p>
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<p>McMansions are not going away so long as people simply think being more square feet at a lower cost per square foot is better than having fewer quality square feet and a higher cost per square foot.  By quality, I include all sorts of things which run counter to market thinking:  greener, more traditional materials; spaces which are suited to the occupant who lives there, not to some generic “buyer” who a demographic, not a person; energy efficient in its entire integrated make-up; and not a slave to McMansion style-books.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunshine Jim</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/21/pull-up-a-chair-44/#comment-640455</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunshine Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 20:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Blue Orchard Mason bees!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.masonbeehomes.com/the_buzz_about_bees.php&quot;&gt;http://www.masonbeehomes.com/t.....t_bees.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;great lil pollinators, work on the cool days, don’t bite, beautiful too!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blue Orchard Mason bees!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.masonbeehomes.com/the_buzz_about_bees.php">http://www.masonbeehomes.com/t&#8230;..t_bees.php</a></p>
<p>great lil pollinators, work on the cool days, don’t bite, beautiful too!</p>
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		<title>By: morphosequence</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/21/pull-up-a-chair-44/#comment-640427</link>
		<dc:creator>morphosequence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 19:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have one hive of bees. They’re fine so far. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At one time I had four hives. There’s something special about opening a hive and watching workers (females) dance, basically telling their sisters where to find nectar rich flowers. Or watching the workers throw the drones (males) out of the hive at the end of summer, when they are no longer needed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For those who don’t have bees, it’s becoming more difficult to to keep hives healthy and alive as the years go by. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bees are great. I encourage those who have the time and space to try it. My colony produces at least 6 gallons of honey a year, and that’s in a bad year. I originally got them because I was afraid of bees. I’m not anymore!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have one hive of bees. They’re fine so far. </p>
<p>At one time I had four hives. There’s something special about opening a hive and watching workers (females) dance, basically telling their sisters where to find nectar rich flowers. Or watching the workers throw the drones (males) out of the hive at the end of summer, when they are no longer needed.</p>
<p>For those who don’t have bees, it’s becoming more difficult to to keep hives healthy and alive as the years go by. </p>
<p>Bees are great. I encourage those who have the time and space to try it. My colony produces at least 6 gallons of honey a year, and that’s in a bad year. I originally got them because I was afraid of bees. I’m not anymore!</p>
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		<title>By: Bugboy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/21/pull-up-a-chair-44/#comment-640422</link>
		<dc:creator>Bugboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 19:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;From Wiki:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Is more likely to “abscond” - the entire colony leaves the hive and relocates - in response to repeated intrusions by the beekeeper.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m not sure I’m following the entire description of what beekeepers are describing CCD, but this doesn’t sound like what’s happening.  What is interesting is this tidbit:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Lives more often in ground cavities than the European types.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;EVERY feral bee hive I’ve ever seen, and I’ve lost count how many I’ve seen in FL, MD PA and NY, that I remember, has been in a tree.  Mostly Oak trees, old ones that have lost a branch.  Saw a hummingbird checking one out when I was about 12, an image that will be forever burned into my mind’s eye.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyway, the only underground hives I’ve ever seen or heard reports of are yellowjackets.  They always pop up at constructions sites.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The MINUTE we see reports of construction crews getting whacked by honeybees, that will be a pretty good indication of killer bees.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Wiki:</p>
<p>“Is more likely to “abscond” &#8211; the entire colony leaves the hive and relocates &#8211; in response to repeated intrusions by the beekeeper.”</p>
<p>I’m not sure I’m following the entire description of what beekeepers are describing CCD, but this doesn’t sound like what’s happening.  What is interesting is this tidbit:</p>
<p>“Lives more often in ground cavities than the European types.”</p>
<p>EVERY feral bee hive I’ve ever seen, and I’ve lost count how many I’ve seen in FL, MD PA and NY, that I remember, has been in a tree.  Mostly Oak trees, old ones that have lost a branch.  Saw a hummingbird checking one out when I was about 12, an image that will be forever burned into my mind’s eye.  </p>
<p>Anyway, the only underground hives I’ve ever seen or heard reports of are yellowjackets.  They always pop up at constructions sites.  </p>
<p>The MINUTE we see reports of construction crews getting whacked by honeybees, that will be a pretty good indication of killer bees.</p>
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