
With so much going on, some important stories are flying just below the radar. I want to mention just two or three and then describe a common framework I’ve found useful when thinking about them.
First, the New York Times has been giving a lot of coverage to abuses of the federal student loan programs run by the Department of Education. DoE provides direct loans to students and parents, but it also allows private lending companies to share in the action. Like everything else in this Administration, under Bush’ Education Secretary, Margaret Spellings, the federal system has been abused to give preferential treatment to the private lenders.
One story from last week describes how the private lenders have improperly influenced the nation's colleges and universities, sometimes using favors and bribes to corrupt college loan officers to gain preferential access to student loan applicants. In some cases, the colleges allowed the private lenders to take over some functions of the college financial aid office, as in this story, forcing students to attend briefings that were little more than sales pitches by a lending company. I’ll return to Spellings in a minute. There have also been several NYT stories on the investigations by the NY State Attorney General's Office of lending company abuses. Other states are now following New York’s lead.
Second, last week Senate Democrats were trying to debate and vote on whether Medicare officials should be allowed/required to negotiate prices with drug companies. You'll recall that House Democrats passed negotiating authority as one of their six initiatives during the first 100 hours. The issue is stuck in the Senate, and last Wednesday, the Republicans successfully filibustered to prevent the Democrats from bringing up the matter.
The third topic is the huge policy question about whether and how the United States should provide universal health care and how we pay for it. A key issue here is whether we should expand the "single-payer" system to provide universal health coverage or instead expand insurance coverage for those currently without health insurance.
Rather than delve into the details of these policy areas, I want instead to offer a way of thinking about them that I've found helpful in understanding electricity markets, an area I deal with at work. Reduced to its simplest terms, the framework is this: When we are dealing with services seen as important to public welfare, there is often a governmental "pool" mechanism for providing the basic service, as well as private mechanisms based on private contracting. The two mechanisms are in constant tension, often in competition. But the public interest depends on assuring that the "pool" mechanism is open to everyone on a non-discriminatory basis and its pricing is fair (or efficient). And then you have to be ready to protect the pool, because the private interests, and their cronies in government, will do everything they can to cripple the pool’s ability to set a fair standard for private competitors to beat.
How This Works in Electricity.
This dual structure exists for electricity in more than half the country — New England and New York; the Mid-Atlantic region down into Virginia; most of the Midwest and parts of the Great Plains; most of Texas; and most of California. In each of these large interconnected regions there is a monopoly institution called an RTO (Regional Transmission Organization) that operates the electricity grid for that entire region (your utility doesn't do this any more). Although RTOs are nominally private, non-profit corporations, they in fact function as quasi-government entities with substantial government oversight.
Each RTO operates as an open-access "pool," which means that any seller (typically power plant owners) can sell electric power into the pool, and any buyer (usually your local utilitities, retailers or large industrial customers) can buy power from the pool. The RTO's pool is thus a centralized market (a concept that drives market purists and conseratives crazy), with prices set every hour via competitive bidding auctions.
In addition to using the RTO pool, all of the buyers and sellers are free to contract with each other outside the pool — via bilateral purchase/sell contracts. So your utility can use bilateral contracts to buy as much power as it needs to serve its customers — you and me, businesses, etc — and then only buy a little from the RTO's pool. Or the utility can buy all it's requirements from the pool. The rules give the buyers/sellers the choice to use either the pool or the contracts as much as they want, in any mix they want.
The pool is always there as a fallback. If a utility can't get the price or quantities it wants from contract sellers, the utility can always purchase all the power it needs from the RTO pool at the pool's competitive/auction price. That means the suppliers who offer contracts can never force the buyers/utilities to purchase power at prices significantly higher than what they expect pool prices to be, because the buyer can always purchase what it needs from the RTO pool. (The same protections apply to the sellers, who can always sell their power to the pool, if they think contract prices offered by buyers are too low.)
No matter what happens in the contract market, the RTO pool will make sure consumers always get the electricity they demand. If you flip on the switch, the lights go on, and it doesn't depend on whether your utility buys from the pool or buys through contracts or any combination of the two. The consumers' needs are always met by the pool operators, 24/7. In other words, we can guarantee this essential service to everyone and separate how the service is physically delivered from how we pay for it.
The Framework Applied to Other Policy Areas
We can analyze the three policy areas above with this common framework. A good system is one in which consumers get the services they need at a fair price. In a pool framework, every person gets health care; every person gets the prescription drugs they need. Whoever operates the "pool" takes on the responsibility to guarantee service for everyone, at a fair price. If the pool operates efficiently, and doesn't discriminate, then everything else works too. Buyers can contract with private suppliers if they want, but they don't have to. Consumers can purchase insurance contracts to protect them against price fluctuations or unexpected costs, but they don't have to. No matter what, consumers will get the essential service they need.
Whether it's student loans, or prescription drugs, or health care in general, if there is an effective, open pool mechanism available, and its pricing is fair, then the private contract providers can also exist too, giving consumers a choice and better assurance of decent services and fair prices. But if the pool mechanism is handicapped, or access to the pool is restricted, or it's pricing artificially manipulated, then there is strong likelihood that the private contract alternatives will not serve the public well either. The products or services will be limited, or the prices will be unfair, or both.
And here's a warning from my experiences with electricity markets. Private contract marketers have strong incentives to undermine the pool's effectiveness, because the pool is a competitor, or it at least defines the competitive standard. They may try to convince government to limit what services the pool can provide, or limit who can buy from the pool, or convince the pool to use pricing mechanisms that are inefficient. All of these tactics make it more likely that buyers — and consumers like us — will have to turn to private contract marketers and pay more for fewer choices, because the pool choice is either missing or unattractive.
In the policy areas above, the "pool" is a government mechanism that directly provides (or helps pay for) student loans, prescription drugs, or health care. A "single-payer" system is a type of pool. A program that offers loans directly from the Department of Education is a type of pool. And Social Security is another pool. The private contract market consists of banks and loan companies (for student loans) and insurance companies (for drugs and health care), or private retirement plans (401k, 457k etc). We can have both mechanisms, and both can work well together, but the key is to make sure that the pool mechanism is available to all as an effective, fairly priced choice. If it isn't, there is no reason to expect the private contract/insurance model will work well, and plenty of evidence to show it will be abused and more expensive.
You can go back and follow the stories above, and this framework will help explain what went wrong in each case. In the case of student loans, the lenders in the contract market deliberately tried to strangle the pool — direct loans from DoE — to restrict competition, and then corrupted the college loan offices, the gateway to the DoE loans. In the prescription drug case, the drug companies want to make sure the pool mechanism doesn't artificially depress prices or even establish competitive prices, because that prevents the drug suppliers from exercising market power to raise prices in the contract market. We see the same patterns in health care, where the insurance providers want to limit the government's ability, via single-payer pool mechanisms, to provide health care without insurance.
Today’s NYT editorial, The Medicare Privatization Scam, provides a perfect example of how the private insurance system gained an unwarranted subsidy from the government pool in order to draw consumers away from the pool (Medicare) and into private insurance schemes, while enriching the private companies and raising the total costs of health care. And remember the Social Security battle with Bush’s private accounts? It was exactly the same battle, as Paul Krugman reminds us in Friday’s op ed, The Plot Against Medicare (Times Select).
A final warning. If a well-functioning pool is the key to success, then we have to pay attention to how the pool is set up, managed and overseen. A badly managed pool, or one in which pricing rules are badly designed or manipulated (recall the California electricity prices back in 2001) can screw up both the pool and contracts, because contract prices tend to track expected pool prices. And the pool function is by definition a monopoly function — it has to be intelligently and carefully regulated to be efficient and pursue the public interest. We need good government run by people who believe in the government's mission.
If a government-regulated pool is not managed well, you get stories like this, in which the DoE recklessly gave private lending companies unfettered access to DoE's huge data base of the financial records, personal data and Social Security numbers of millions of us who took advantage of the federal student loan programs. And with Bush appointed overseers like Education Secretary Margaret Spellings, they waited too long to close the barn door. So if you received numerous solicitations from lenders to consolidate your school loans, and wondered how they knew your personal financial and loan history, that's why. Guard the pool.
Related posts:
- Bill Clinton Bullish on Government-Administered Student Loans; What About Health Care?
- How Would Enron Design Health Care Reform?
- Health Care Debate Misfocused on Insurance Exchanges
- Health Care Reform: Did Obama Ask Sen. Cantwell to Mislead You?
- Mitt Romney’s Idea of Health Care Reform: Giving Big Insurance Whatever They Want





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Fritz!
bout time I got here first!
We’ve scraped, saved and invested for years so our kids don’t have to take out student loans. The way the student loan business has gone south, it turns out to have been a very good idea. I’m glad my kids aren’t going to have to deal with these sharks in the fucking pool. There are enough other ones for them to keep their eyes on.
The ideologue bathtub embeds are determined to corrupt and debase every single dept. of the govt. They specialize in me, me, me. We, the people, are roused and ready for change…hence such polling as Russert’s that 73% of people are already following the ‘08 candidates.
One voice that’s sure to get attention as his booktour takes off is Lee Iacocca. See him tomorrow on CBS’ Sunday Morning.
Thanks for talking about these issues, Scarecrow. We were talking about the electrical rates earlier today because of a local print article. De facto monopolies like Unitary Executives must be cleaned-up.
Ditto. I kept telling each of them when they were growing up, “you know how we have these REALLY OLD cars, and we never got either of you a car, and we don’t have anyone who cleans our house or mows our lawn, and our furniture is rather old & shabby, etc., well, that’s so you won’t have to borrow piles of money to go to college.”
They do seem to appreciate it now (one’s a freshman, one’s a junior).
So the problem is politicans and their friends are raking in the dough and/or the program is being run so bad that if conservatives have their way the programs are likly to get canceled because there inefficient and wasting the taxpayers money. Can anyone tell me why we elected a Harvard MBA (Masters of Business Administration) to be president? Harvard should be ashamed for passing the chimp just because he came from a good family. Conservatives really need to stop harping on affirmative action for minorites trying to get into college and look at the damage THEIR “small school bus” student has done.
Scarecrow says:
Can we say Enron?
OT from previous thread – I left a question in re: Maureen O’Hara movie…
The House Committees are going to stomp on these Education Department a**holes. George Miller is looking into the NCLB crap. Cuomo in NY is reaming the companies and the schools involved in this pay-to-play sh*t. The middle-class will pay atttention to these issues.
Mauimom @
5
I would like to win a lottery just so I could fund a family education foundation for my cousins and their children and grandchildren. I’ve done some preliminary planning that would start things at very low interest loans that would convert to grants if they majored in things like Education, Social work, nursing, and other fields that might not pay great but are desparately needed.
dakine01 — sorry, I don’t think I’ve seen that movie.
Re Enron, they did indeed help draft the original rules of the California electricity rule, and they were responsible for inserting several rules that were deliberately designed to prevent the pool from picking the lowest cost resources to run each hour. However, Enron’s tricks were only a part of the mess California created. There were lots of other factors, including a very serious drought that took out a huge amount of hydro capacity and contributed to shortages that drove up prices.
AZ Matt @ 8
I think you’re right; there are a lot of issues here that are important to the voting public generally, and the middle class in particular. In New York, the college loan scandals have been getting front page treatment in the Times for several weeks.
The Republics filibustering the Medicare stuff is directly atributable to Mitch McConnell, R-Big Bidness. He is so far in the tank for business it is beyond funny. And there are so many ironies in his being maried to the Secretary of Labor (Elaine Chao) as HE is so anti-anything that would be good for labor that it doesn’t compute.
The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission(FERC) was a puppet of Enron. Enron controlled the north-south transmission lines between northern and southern California and would not permit extra energy to travel through during the shortages thus inducing the blackouts. I am glad Kenny Boy kicked the bucket. He and Bush hurt many people and businesses during that little faked crisis.
My oldest is getting her masters in Chinese Medicine in Berkeley. Her student loans were taken out during the time of raging interest rates and usury by corporations while the government guaranteed the loans. When she graduates her payment will be about $1200 a month. If she had gotten her loans before and after the Bush Crime Syndicate came to power her payments would be half that. My hope is that the Dems will refinance these types of loans so people will not be so burdened.
The Repugs have directly effected me and my family in so many adverse ways. Katrina, bankruptcy by healthcare and student loans are but a few.
Hate ‘em. Hate ‘em. But I do hear chickens knocking at the door of the hen house.
This goes to show that even more “culture of corruption and evil” Republicans must be sacked in November 2008, driven from our government, held accountable, and watched for the rest of their lives, to make sure that their corruption and evil don’t poison our democratic, free society ever again.
This link to C&L on the use of mercenaries for security in war areas shows another example of the govt pool vs private contractin frame I’m talking about.
AZ Matt @ 8
Cuomo is just following the lead and precedent set by his predecessor, Gov Spitzer. Where Spitzer went after the Wall St games players, Cuomo is going after these guys. And good on ‘em both.
Why didn’t the dems fillibuster more stuff when they were in the minority? Why did they let things get so bad?
Scarecrow @ 10
You should pick it up sometime for brain candy. Nothing serious, but a pleasant diversion.
Thanks for the detailed information! I didn’t really understand how the electrical utility market works.
DrenchedOtter @ 20
I still don’t. I think this thread is a little over my head.
AZ Matt @ 13
Not quite. The entity that controls the AC lines iin California and between the PNW and California are controled by the “pool,” called the California Independent System Operator. Enron did not control the operation of these lines. And those lines were generally used to their capacity (the limits of security-constrained dispatch — the industry standard) throughout the crisis.
Enron did manipulate scheduling on lines outside the ISO’s control, mostly in states outside California, and they made money doing that by misleading the ISO about what was happening. However, they did not control the flows. System operators control flows.
I saw a story on the local news some time ago about “private” student loans. I’m thinking, what’s the benefit to the student? I had student loans when I went to college, which I got through the state via a local bank. Fixed rate, no interest accrued until I left school, normal.
So I looked at the website of this private student loan company, and the fine print was unbelievable! Variable interest, recalculated quarterly, from the time the loan is taken out. After graduation, someone who borrowed $20k could owe $30k if interest rates go up much. Horrible deal.
These people are vultures. I’m betting the story was an ad dressed up as a story, a VNR.
SnarKassandra @ 18
Fear of being called obstructionists. When the reich-wingers were in the ascendancy, the Dems were treading very carefully. You may be too young to remember (sorry for that), but they took out the Dem Senate Leader prior to Harry Reid, Tom Daschle, for being too much of a Dem. Scared many of the others from Red states so that even now, they are moving gingerly to exert the power.
scarecrow–my brain hurt reading all of it….and i can follow a long line…please explain how does one electric company buy from another, how does that work physically?
The Sallie Mae hits just keep on coming.
And, also!
Scarecrow @ 16
It’s part and parcel of the Starve the Beast from earlier thread. Not enough money to pay honest civil servants or active military to do things. But more than enough to contract out for obscene amounts and rip off the taxpayer and the supposed beneficiaries of the activities.
SnarKassandra @ 18
Because more Democrats than you may think agree with the Republicans. Just to take one example a little off topic, more Senate Democrats voted FOR the war in Iraq than voted against it. Always have to watch whether Democrats reveal what they believe or are just trying to distract your attention, unfortunately.
dmac @ 25
I’m sorry about the length.
PG&E, the utility that serves much of NorCalifornia, can buy electricity from SCE, the utility that serves much of SoCalifornia. It is a financial transaction. The two utilities are connected by several large transmission lines. Flows move freely in a AC system.
Physically, what usually occurs is that SCE will have its generators produce more electricity than SCE needs for its own use, and PG&E will produce less than it needs for its own use, and the flows will naturally move from SCE north along the connecting lines to PG&E. Think of water running through a pipe from one full tub to another less full.
Re: Daschle
Don’t forget how a disabled Vietnam War vet, the warhero Max Cleland, was defeated by bad-knee-deferred Saxby Chambliss, using an ad that morphed Osama into Senator Cleland. 2002 was a very, very different time.
dakine at 7
OT from previous thread – I left a question in re: Maureen O’Hara movie…
maureen ohara, quite the lady. only the lonely the movie…………
So, Scarecrow — the GOP/BushCo plan was to game Social Security by tying its payout to The Stock Market, removing its pool protectivity while recompensing money managers generously?
TeddySanFran @
30
Too true. And another chickenhawk gets elected after trashing the name of a veteran who actually served in combat.
This is what was happening with the transmission lines. This is from Wikipedia:
Overscheduling is a term used in
In a letter sent from David Fabian to Senator Boxer in 2002, it was alleged that:
“There is a single connection between northern and southern California’s power grids. I heard that Enron traders purposely overbooked that line, then caused others to need it. Next, by California’s free-market rules, Enron was allowed to price-gouge at will.”[5]
TeddySanFran @ 30
I think the newfangled electronic voting machines in Georgia may have had something to do with that race too. Just saying.
TeddySanFran @ 32
One of the funniest things I ever saw was when I was living outside Tampa. The Chimpy came to town to push his Soc. Sec. cr*p. Most all of the broadcast stations were covering his shtick live except for one. The exception was showing the Jerry Springer Show. I don’t think I’ll ever forget that Jerry’s topic that day was “Liars Confronted”. And you can guess which show probably had more inate honesty!
Scarecrow, Thanks for explaining in detail how these critters are pissing in our pools.. Everywhere I look there is another floating disposable diaper, even in the deep end!
How are we ever going to get the pool even semi-clean again?!!
Another news item I only heard about on the Daily Show this week was about the House and Senate versions of the military spending bill, including timelines for withdrawal. Both allow for militia like Blackwater and other contracters to stay endlessly..and also allows for iirc, 40k troops to stay indefinately as well.
Blackwater employees/killers are making 30K a month! Many soldiers make that in a year.
Basically there are enough paid militia in Iraq now to consider our troop levels to be double what we are led to believe. total 250 to 300K
So if the plan as written now manages to pass a veto…we will still be planning on roughly 100 to 150K troops in Iraq….with no withdrawal in print for them.
Everyone is lying and everyone is pissing in the pool!
TeddySanFran @ 32
Using my frame, the privitization scheme was to divert the pool of SS taxes from the SS pool (trust fund) to private accounts, managed by private financial institutions.
Krugman addressed the questional economics, as you recall. The intellectual dishonesty was the claim that we needed private accounts and didn’t have them yet. That was nonsense. We have 401k and 457 private accounts, plus other pension and other retirement plans at work; or we can buy insurance, or put money in a savings account or invest in stocks. The private market was already there. What Bush wanted was to reduce the amount of money going to the pool = SS system, and divert to to even more private accounts.
I worked in health care administration in the 1990s (I don’t any more), and it seemed to me that the opposition to a “pool” concept for access to health care didn’t come from the patients or the health care providers (except for a few high-priced specialists), but mainly from the health insurers, who recognized that a pool would create competition for them, just as Scarecrow says. Unfortunately, the way the system is set up the insurers control all the money, so it’s going to be very difficult to dislodge them, even though they provide nothing of value either from a clinical or an economic standpoint.
TeddySanFran @
26
And both of my daughters who will be in the healthcare field will be stressed finacially for years. If things are not fixed soon the young and not so young adults will be forced into revolution. How much more can they witness and experience?
Where was FERC in this? Doing nothing. Also from Wikipedia:
What do want to bet that Cheney’s energy plan lead to this one?
Jeremy Scahill’s Blackwater
Scarecrow,
Thank you so much. This explains all of the e-mails I’ve gotten to buy into student loan programs for my daughters.
Shiteous fuckery.
im pssn in ur pul
Awesome post. It is always amazing to me that we know how to create win-win solutions and a healthy balance in our market systems but the Gordon Gekkos relentlessly, and too often sucessfully, contrive to stack the deck.
Here in NC, the property casualty insurance industry just introduced legislation to subvert the auto insurance pool mechanism.
OT-Anyone watching the White House Corr. Assoc. Dinner?
AZ Matt @ 34
I’ve done analysis of the Enron trading schemes, including Death Star, Get Shorty, etc. As I said, they manipulated schedules to make money, but they didn’t control the lines. It’s important to separate the physical from the financial — otherwise you’ll conclude that the shortages in California were artificially created by Enron, when in fact there were real shortages created by other factors. Badly managed shortages, but real neverthesless.
There is a film called “Smartest Guys in the Room” which tries to lay most of the problem off on Enron, but IMO the film is completely confused about what happened. Enron ripped off money, but the shortages were caused by other factors, including real drought and some very foolish policies by the Governor’s office and his Chairwoman of the Public Utilities Commission.
omg
Chertoff in WaPo tomorrow
be afraid
be very afraid
TeddySanFran @ 42
Was this the fellow on the Daily Show? If so, he had the goods on them.
Eureka Springs @ 49
yup. i said at the time, hope he’s careful
solai @
46
Uh, no chance in hell?
this is another great post from the scarecrow
the very purpose of this administration was to render successful government programs unsuccessful
that is their very purpose, they’ve pillaged the resources acquired over generations, pillaged, stolen, squandered
they’ve installed the most inept people they can find in the most vital positions of these programs just so they can prove that the programs shouldn’t exist
they’ve taken the most successful programs in history, given those assets to the wealthiest people in the world and then said;
“see?…the program is going bankrupt”
their purpose wasn’t so much to steal, though that was a happy bi product
their real purpose was to usher federalist philosophy and robber baron fascist economics
they’ve pillaged every single proud program we once had…even the military has been pillaged.
and their plan has sadly worked, people will forever look to these successful programs as fodder for theives.
I do not know how it will be possible to regain what was stolen in real assets and I don’t know how we will ever regain the confidence we once had in our republic and the people we elect.
this has been the most dangerous, the most miserable, the most damanging administration not only in American history but it contends for that title in the entire history of planet earth
perhaps nero might be above this president but not too far
if you guys remember, nero played violin while rome burned
bush played guitar while New Orleans sank
it’s as if nero is this mans hero
it’s as if someone gave this man a play book on what to do to defeat American from within and the man studied that playbook and followed it page for page
scarecrow at 29
PG&E, the utility that serves much of NorCalifornia, can buy electricity from SCE, the utility that serves much of SoCalifornia. It is a financial transaction. The two utilities are connected by several large transmission lines. Flows move freely in a AC system.
Physically, what usually occurs is that SCE will have its generators produce more electricity than SCE needs for its own use, and PG&E will produce less than it needs for its own use, and the flows will naturally move from SCE north along the connecting lines to PG&E. Think of water running through a pipe from one full tub to another less full.
no, it wasn’t the lenth, it was that i have never understood the commodities of energy companies! thank you, although i still don’t get it completely……….and i worked for the phone company, so it get how transmission lines work, but don’t get how they have ‘extra’ to sell back and forth, where do they store it? and how does it pass back and forth? it’s like make believe money on the stock market to me……….
TeddySanFran — wow, that Chertoff op ed is scary. I wonder who wrote if for him. Looks like an AEI piece. And Chertoff is supposedly on the possible list of AG replacements.
Anyone who think that these guys living in caves in the Afghan/Pakistani border present the same existential threat as Hitler or Stalin is delusional and completely lacking in judgement. And Zbig didn’t say alQaeda was not something to worry about; he said the “war on terror” frame was wrong.
The AEI/National Review folks must be very worried to run this out there.
Scarecrow @ 0:
I’ll need to come back & read your piece more thoroughly when I’m fresh, but did you (or your links) touch on the Sallie Mae sell-off announced last week?
I smelled a rat there, on par with your examples above, as well as the savings & loan debacle of the 80’s.
I also smelled rat in it being slipped by below the public radar, during last weeks news chaos.
Just tossing it out there, as equal or related importance.
perris, so true. Sadly, so true. Except for one line:
“their purpose wasn’t so much to steal, though that was a happy bi product”
I think they meant to steal.
perris, yes (nodding as I read your comment)…
also, when in 2009 the Democratic President (blessings be!) appoints USAttorneys who start investigating the nationwide corruption of BushCo and obtain multiple indictments, the meme of “politicization” will already be in place. Just as the GOP ruined the very useful impeachment tool, so have they ruined the credibility of the Federal prosecutorial workforce.
@ Scarecrow …. I saw “Smartest Guys in the Room” last week. From what little I know, it seemed to me good theater but they didn’t always have their facts straight. Thanks for backing that up.
dmac — but don’t get how they have ‘extra’ to sell back and forth, where do they store it? and how does it pass back and forth? it’s like make believe money on the stock market to me
electricity is very difficult to store in large quantities.
Each utility has many powerplants, more than enough to cover the highest level (”peak”) of demand. So each utility can produce more energy at any given moment than it actually needs to serve just it’s own customers. If it wants to “sell” electricity” to another utility, it instructs it’s power plants to generate more than it needs for its own use for the hours in which it is making “off-system” sales to the other utility. The extra power will flow along the connecting lines to the other utility, according to the laws of physics.
Scarecrow — Chertoff’s imagery seems designed to engage the base (”smoldering towers….”) but I also wonder if it’s his essay application to Chimp for Abu’s job.
Gunga Djinn @ 55
None of the stories i covered dealt with the fact that Sallie Mae, a corporation, is being sold. I haven’t followed that.
TeddySanFran @ 48
” The fanatics’ intent, while grandiose, is not entirely fanciful. Islamist extremists such as those in al-Qaeda, the Taliban and associated groups from North Africa to Iraq and South Asia are fighting for and sometimes achieving control of territory in which they can train; assemble advanced, inhumane weaponry….”
As opposed to humane weaponry?
Scarecrow @ 61
my links at 26 will reveal all
PeteCO @ 62
No one ever claimed that logic was a strong suit for these a**-wipes
Just read Chertoff’s Op-Ed.
I don’t know, is it my bias or have the American people finally recognized that they’re being played? I mean I was getting more and more angry with every sentence but I’ve felt that way for awhile. But I don’t think we’re alone anymore. I have a feeling that America has woken up. I don’t think that’s going to have the impact they’re hoping for.
DrenchedOtter @ 58
It’s very entertaining, and not bad on some of the Enron trading schemes, but those schemes were a very small part of what was going on, while the people they interviewed had an interest in deflecting blame from the state and the decisions they made.
There is a very good book on Enron called “Conspiracy of Fools” that is excellent on all the financial dealings within the company; it has a little on the California electricity market that is fairly good.
ok, just saw mention of investigation into Sallie Mae practices by NYAG, in the NYT link.
But I’m talking bigger…the bulk sell-off of Sallie Mae to 2 private (unamed) investor groups and 2 megabanks, blurbed on the financial pages this week during the heat of the Gonzo hearing & VTech massacre.
I smell a huge rat, but am to exhausted to detail the evidence right now. (excuse)
solai @ 65
The problem to my mind isn’t so much that people won’t respond, which I pray they won’t. It’s that someone in Chertoff’s position felt compelled to write, or have ghosted for him, gibberish of this caliber.
Scarecrow, I really liked your post! Although I don’t think that you intended the electric markets to become a main focus, we have a real scam going on in Texas that, I think results from Dubya’s friendship with Kenny Boy Lay.
In 1999 (I think I have the year right) while Dubya was our illustrious governor, our electric markets were deregulated through the efforts of Lay and others.
Today, one company dominates the entire market in Texas — TXU Energy. We are paying (by most estimates) about 30 percent higher rates than the national average. Our current governor (Rick Perry) and many key members of our legislature have received rather substantial campaign donations from TXU. What it amounts to is: Whatever TXU wants, TXU gets. TXU is thumbing its nose at our public utility commission, insisting that it has no authority over it.
There is great insistence by our politicians that deregulation works, but most of the electricity that is sold by other “suppliers” is generated by TXU! There is very little difference in the rates available by alternative suppliers.
What is sickening is that Kohlberg, Kravis and Roberts (KKR) is trying to buy TXU at a highly inflated price. If the sale goes through, the ratepayers (us) will be saddled with an astounding debt. The TXU stockholders will make out like bandits! Our media are saturated with advertising from TXU talking about all the wonderful things that will happen — including a 10 percent rate cut! It is really a big scam…
Our legislature is in session, and is supposedly considering some “changes” to deregulation, but most of it appears to be dictated by TXU. In other words, there is nothing substantial being considered.
Thanks to George Bush, and Ken Lay, and now Rick Perry, we are at the mercy of TXU — in a supposed “deregulated” market!
it’s so funny that people elect to government office the very people that claim loud and clear that they hate government
isn’t that a kick?
these people that destroy our republic actually advertised that they would do it…they’ve told us time and again they actually believe government is a problem and they want to eliminate it
that was their campaign platform.
sad but true
solai @
65
They know and they are pissed.
Scarecrow @ 66
I read several Enron books. Conspiracy of Fools was by far the best. Actually, it was so good that I’d put it in the top 10 non-fiction books that I’ve ever read.
Scarecrow- sorry to raise another issue w/o a real “report back” of substance. But, after reading your post, I got to thinking “how many other services has Bushco. fucked up?”
And I started wondering about the plight of air traffic controllers, and the FAA. After googling for quite a while, no, I don’t feel any safer.
But, I haven’t been following this, so I don’t know what is current. Just a few links, for someone who knows more about this than I do:
FAA Imposes Controller Contract Before Congress Can Act Jun 6, 2006
Fatigue Hits Air Traffic Control Towers Apr 12, 2007
solai @ 65
I hope you’re right about that, but the important thing to remember, I think, is that Chertoff, Bush, Rice, Cheney, Rummy and the whole bunch are not trying to display any logic to analysis of the evidence. They are, rather, acting as propagandists, so a different standard must be applied. Not, “is it true?,” or, “is it logical based on the evidence?,” but, rather, “is this emotionally powerful?,” and, “does it successfully obscure the facts through a visceral appeal?”
Judged on those latter grounds, it may be effective–at least in keeping the base agitated. That’s always the ground floor of Rove’s political strategies.
teddy at 48
Chertoff in WaPo tomorrow
be afraid
be very afraid
be not afraid. it kinda said-uhhhhhh nuthin…………..
Gunga Djinn @ 67
Al Lord, Chairman of SallieMae, has been tired of Congress beating up on his stockholders for years. That’s what he calls it when Congress discusses regulating student loans. Essentially, he decided to privatize the company 18 months ago, but the stock price was too high to enable a premium-priced private-equity bailout that would reward investors sufficiently. Since then, the price has come down — 11/7 had something to do with that, as did Bush’s SOTU (days before which Lord made a BIG but *entirely unrelated* killing selling SLM stock).
Anyway, conditions are now *much better* for a selloff into the murky private equity world, where penalties like the $2,000,000 Cuomo extracted from the company have significantly less impact than they do for an SEC-regulated company.
See my links at 26 also.
House Democratic Leaders Call President’s Attention to Crucial Facts in Iraq War Debate
April 20th, 2007 by Office of the Speaker
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, Majority Whip James Clyburn, Caucus Chairman Rahm Emanuel, Caucus Vice Chairman John Larson, and Assistant to the Speaker Xavier Becerra sent a letter to President Bush today to call his attention to crucial facts regarding the funding of the troops in Iraq and the debate on a timetable for withdrawal.
Below is the text of the letter:
http://speaker.gov/blog/
Then scroll down the blog to:
Rep. Patrick Murphy on Iraq and the Troops
Rep. Patrick Murphy:
“At 6:12 AM this morning I got an email from Iraq, it was from a former cadet that I got to know, who lost his brother on 9/11. And he said to me, he said, ’sir, this is the first time I’ve ever written ya, but I want you to know there are legions, legions of junior officers, company commanders in Iraq and Afghanistan and all over this country that are watching you, that are watching this 110th Congress and that are saying thank God somebody is standing up and speaking truth to power.’”
Valley Girl @ 73
One of the problems when the ComAir flight crashed in Lexington, KY last summer was there was only one controller on duty. There were supposed to be two at all times but FAA cut back.
dakine01 @ 68
Chimpy needs people to *clap louder* at his staged events. Thus this op-ed, to cheer up Chimpy and motivate the 30%ers.
solai @ 65
It won’t have any impact beyond a mention on the barking heads tomorrow morning. What’s the first thing that comes into your head when you read “As the rubble of the Twin Towers smoldered in 2001, no one could have imagined a day when America’s leaders would be criticized for being tough in protecting Americans from further acts of war.”?
Evil terr’ists planning to destroy ‘Murika?
Or Bush, slurring the same tired bullshit he’s been wheeled out to repeat to an increasingly skeptical public for the last six years?
Loo Hoo @
43
Potty mouth.
dakine01- I saw that in one of the articles I scanned/ skimmed. But I just couldn’t get the wider picture as to where this fuck-up as come from (apart from BushCo.) I mean connecting the dots…
TeddySanFran @ 79 says:
Yeah, since it appears the troops aren’t quite as cooperative as they once were.
montag @ 74
Maybe, and I certainly can’t say what impact it will have on the 30% who still support him (although I’d be surprised if they read it) but I’m sensing a change in the majority. I think they’re beginning to realize that Bush is using fear to hide all his screw-ups. And I don’t think they’re buying it anymore.
I want to direct this back to abu torture.
do you know one of his statement is “he believes he can still do good work” or something as ridiculous as that?
he is shaping the debate, trying to make believe if it weren’t for this scandal he’s done a fine job
a man that didn’t even know the constitution provides habeas corpus protection, a man who didn’t even know the constitution protects against warrant less search
this is the man who is actually trying to shape the discussion as if not for this scandal he did a fine and dandy job
we have to get the democrats to laugh at the claim whenever it’s repeated by the spin machine
Just turned on C-Span and this weird man is on telling weirder jokes – just W’s sense of humor I would think.
Valley Girl @ 82
Well, you’ve pretty much got it. FAA is government which BushCo hates with a passion. Anything that makes a gov’t entity look bad is OK. Not enough that Ray-guns had to fire all the controllers in PATCO and break that union. Now BushCo wants to break it down further, and most likely privatize it so some more of his buddies can wring some more obscene profits on the gov’t tit.
dakine01 @ 51
just turned it on TERRIBLE but they are all laughing. Turning it off now.
sojourner — I have some of the same concerns about TXU dominance in that market. Just a little background:
Most of Texas’ grid is operated by one of these RTOs — but in Texas, everything has a different name — yours is called ERCOT. It is a private corporation, but functions as a quasi-govt entity, regulated by the PUC.
ERCOT controls the dispatch of all generation — it decides which plants to turn on, how much, and when — to exactly meet demand every minute. This dispatch keeps your lights on.
ERCOT runs an hourly spot market in conjunction with its dispatch. Parties buy and sell energy through that dispatch, every hour, every day.
ERCOT spot market uses marginal-cost pricing to set market prices (and I agree with that) and they are moving to the same type of locational marginal pricing used in all the other RTOs, even though ERCOT is not regulated by the federal government. (Texas is unique)
“deregulation” is usually associated with other features — you have “retail choice” – which means you can choose a supplier other than your local utility. But the rules for “choice” are set by the PUC and heavily inflenced by TXU.
Your “choice” program has nothing to do with the operations of ERCOT, which runs the dispatch and the wholesale spot markets. However, over the long run, on average, spot prices will determine retail rates, whether you buy from the utility or someone else. Everyone has to buy energy from the wholesale market, so wholesale prices will wind up in retail rates, no matter what.
Your rates are higher because your wholesale costs are higher; and because you’re mostly disconnected from the rest of the country, you’re stuck with your costs. The only things that can bring down retail rates are (1)new, cheaper power plants (what are they???) or (2) use less energy, so you can meet demand while just running the cheapest plants on the system.
jinny @ 86
What, side splitting stuff like this?
” In the week before [Karla Faye Tucker’s] execution, Bush says, Bianca Jagger and a number of other protesters came to Austin to demand clemency for Tucker. “Did you meet with any of them?” I ask.
Bush whips around and stares at me. “No, I didn’t meet with any of them,” he snaps, as though I’ve just asked the dumbest, most offensive question ever posed. “I didn’t meet with Larry King either when he came down for it. I watched his interview with [Tucker], though. He asked her real difficult questions, like ‘What would you say to Governor Bush?’ “
“What was her answer?” I wonder.
“Please,” Bush whimpers, his lips pursed in mock desperation, “don’t kill me.”
This charming little vignette comes from Tucker Carlson’s profile of George W. Bush in the premiere issue of Talk. “
http://www.nationalreview.com/daily/nr080999.html
lolo @ 88
just turned it on TERRIBLE but they are all laughing. Turning it off now.
They’re missing the point, once again. They’re the joke.
lolo, I call them the White House Organization of Reporters and Editors for a reason. Colbert smacked ‘em in the mouth last year and their pride couldn’t take looking in his mirror. So they bring in Rich Little who was overrated and a schmuck when I was in college thirty plus years ago.
perris @ 70
Yeah, you’d think we’d have a rule that says, “if you don’t believe in government, you can’t run for office or run it.”
Scarecrow,
Thanks for a very important analysis of a very important subject. I am going to recommend your article to my congresspersons, because it will affect many of the issues they vote on.
Bob in HI
PeteCO @ 80
Oh f**k. That’s the point. To give the Sunday shows a topic other than Abu.
The networks have probably been telling Rove that they HAVE to discuss the hearings. Now, they can deflect some of that coverage to this garbage
got it, TeddySanFran.
ditto, Scarecrow.
I honest to God think this is another massive plunder of National treasure, being sneaked us.
Here’s one suspicion I have right off the top:
Bringing Sallie Mae into Private hands (and bank hands) will bring their debt portfolio under the same lending laws recently deregulated under Bush & the Rep. Congress. And just as with credit cards, interest rate caps are raised or eliminated, and terms of the loans are reset solely at the disgression of the lender.
i.e. legallized usury, retro-actively applicable to previously drawn contracts.
can’t prove it yet, but I got this feeling.
FTC should freeze that sale, NOW.
Scarecrow @ 66
The masses need to see the scenes where the Enron energy traders would call the power plants directly and tell them to shut down.
That’s right, call from a financial trading floor and tell a power plant to stop generating electricity to reduce supply, increase demand, raise prices, increase trading profits, etc.
Unbelievable.
Valley Girl @ 73
How many other agencies? All of them, I suspect. Re the air traffic controllers, I’ve tried to get a better handle on that, cause I have an inlaw who is a controller — but very much a Bush supporter, I’m afraid. He’s off in Afghanistan, helping land planes safely there, so I’m laying off that one.
dakine01 @ 92
That is their problem. They are pining for 1977. Never got over intergration, women’s lib,
and the happiness and satisfaction they witnessed in others.
Yea, Scarecrow!!!!
Brilliant breakdown of complex issues into simple, understandable terms. So why didn’t I understand that before? Because I didn’t have the background or brains you have.
Blessings,
Scarecrow, thanks for the clarifying frame. Rampant robber-baron capitalism needs to be discredited yet again.
TeddySanFran @ 60
Chertoff scares the sh*t out of me. I would much rather have Abu than him. Abu is dumb as dirt Chertoff is evil.
montag @ 91
They’re missing the point, once again. They’re the joke.
But it sounds like embarrassed laughter even for them – very subdued.
OT: A question. I read an article by Scott Horton in Harper’s on-line magazine. Now I can’t find it. I googled it by name: The Political Corruption of the Prosecutorial Function. Does anyone have a link?
Solai @ 95,
Well, can also look forward to George Will opining that the Vtech shootings play to the liberal media frame, or some such nonsense.
Bob Schacht @ 94
Thanks Bob. I hope it’s helpful. btw, I was once asked to advise a group of energy developers from Hawaii, who wanted to build a geothermal plant tapping into one of the volcanoes. I asked them to describe the technology, and the local opposition, and after they did, I advised them that while I thought geothermal energy was a good source generally, I didn’think it was a good idea to poke straws into the breasts of the mother goddess. I think they gave up.
TeddySanFran @
48
Not much of a writer, is he?
Bush Realtime Reaction to Colbert Speech
Mary McCurnin @ 99
Not 1977, 1954, pre Brown v. Board of Education and everything else that happened since. They have this idealized vision of life in the fifties when women knew their places and all the women dressed like Mrs. Cleaver and wore pearls and heels to vacuum. Father knew best and no one EVER did things like have sex, even when married. All children were left by the stork, married couples slept in separate twin beds. As Jimmy Buffet sings in the song “And only jazz musicians, were smokin’ marijuana.” WE all know that world never existed, but the nutters have this idealized world view that reality has no hope of penetrating. (Climbing off soapbox once again).
Lindy @ 104
I couldn’t get the linkie thing to work. Perhaps the url is too long. So here it is unlinked.
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/04/
horton-20070420xovi
[Mod Note; try this link ]
p.s. dakine01 the YouTube link will only make sense to those of us who watched the whole extravaganza. It was a great moment in history! Blogged live at FDL, of course.
dakine01,
Yea. They are a bunch of neanderthals without the karisma.
Lindy @ 104
http://www.harpers.org/archive…..070420xovi
dakine01 @ 92
I know, last year was the beginning of the end for the chimp, Colberts smack down changed the tide.
Okay, I’ve ordered Conspiracy of Fools — with FDL recommenders, how can I lose?
Lindy at 104
http://www.harpers.org/archive…..070420xovi
lolo @ 114
Rich Little was HORRIBLE, oh well
From Democracy Now! website:
AMY GOODMAN: Enron employees also discussed the possibility of Ken Lay becoming Secretary of Energy if George W. Bush won the 2000 election.
ENRON EMPLOYEE 1: Tell you what, you heard this here first. When Bush wins, that f—ing Bill Richardson, he’s gone, that f—ing Clinton, all these f—ing socialists are gone.
ENRON EMPLOYEE 2: Yeah.
ENRON EMPLOYEE 1: You know who the biggest single contributor to the Bush campaign is?
ENRON EMPLOYEE 2: You.
ENRON EMPLOYEE 1: Enron.
ENRON EMPLOYEE 2: What?
ENRON EMPLOYEE 1: Enron.
ENRON EMPLOYEE 2: Is it Enron?
ENRON EMPLOYEE 1: Yeah.
ENRON EMPLOYEE 2: Jesus Christ. Is that true?
ENRON EMPLOYEE 1: Yeah, I think it is.
ENRON EMPLOYEE 2: The biggest single contributor.
ENRON EMPLOYEE 1: Yeah, the biggest corporate contributor to the —
ENRON EMPLOYEE 2: Holy — really? That’s huge. That’s huge.
ENRON EMPLOYEE 1: Ken Lay is going to be Secretary of Energy.
ENRON EMPLOYEE 2: Get out of here! Can you imagine that?
ENRON EMPLOYEE 1: Why not, though? Why not? It could be, right?
ENRON EMPLOYEE 2: Yeah.
ENRON EMPLOYEE 1: I mean, why not? Who, you know, who’s to say, why not?
ENRON EMPLOYEE 2: He could be. That would be awesome, actually.
ENRON EMPLOYEE 1: That would be — how great would that be for all the players in the market?
ENRON EMPLOYEE 2: It would be great. I’d love to see Ken Lay be Secretary of Energy.
ENRON EMPLOYEE 1: We’d open these markets up.
ENRON EMPLOYEE 2: Yep, and you know what? If you don’t know what you’re doing, you’re f—ed. See you.
Music alert. If you know you know. If not give it up to the ‘Let’s impeach the president guy’.
This is absolutely incredible stuff.
http://www.neilyoung.com/archi…..yhall.html
TeddySanFran — can you e-mail me? I’m supposed to forward something to you.
Mary McCurnin @
110
The mods were kind enough to embed the full link.
Cozumel @ 117 says:
You’re surprised? I would have been shocked if he could have been any thing but horrible. Of course, I also thought he was already dead when they announced he was going to be the entertainment this year.
Scarecrow,
Thanks
Excellent post. You did a great job explaining how it works. These thieving bast*rds don’t know when to stop. How can they look in the mirror everyday knowing what they are doing to our country. It is so sad.
Scarecrow @ 120
teddy 94110 at netscape dot net
lolo @ 123
They don’t have reflections.
Just a reminder — Pachacutec will have Late Nite up in a few minutes — but don’t forget that yesterday was his birthday, and according to this source, he is hundreds of years old. Who knew?
OF course Arnold had a role in crapping on California:
LINK
Balrog @ 119
There’s a guy from Las Vegas, NM, by the name of Jim Terr, who’s got a video up called “Please Impeach Me” (to the tune of “Please Release Me”), which is pretty good, too.
lolo @
123
Cuz they go to church every Sunday and proclaim that they luv Jeebuz so all is forgiven becuz they believe. Actions? What actions?
dakine01 @ 122
You’re surprised? I would have been shocked if he could have been any thing but horrible. Of course, I also thought he was already dead when they announced he was going to be the entertainment this year.
I mean even as an impersonator, GWB43 wasn’t even close
dakine01 @ 129
It is a rapture kinda thing.
AZ Matt @ 131
Well they are all in for a HELL of a surprise!
TeddySanFran @ 115
I’m no financial expert and my eyes often glaze over when very complex financial issues are discussed. Yet, this book does a wonderful job of explaining them and as a bonus, the writer is so gifted that it reads like a novel. A very twisted, bizarre novel.
If you believe in Jeebuz then the rapture will grap you up. Means you can do any old awful thing before hand. Jeebuz is the answer to all things white and male.
Pachacutec the Magnificent has a new post up and ready.
Cozumel @ 130
I mean even as an impersonator, GWB43 wasn’t even close
How was Rudy?
solai @ 133
I agree, very readable and engaging.
Pach (aka Mr. Birthday) is upstairs with a new thread
Great post, scarecrow – you have taught me a lot.
Once again.
Thanks!
Scarecrow, another thing to consider is the vast amount of capital floating around the financial centers. Some people suggest that the hedge funds have more than 1 trillion, and others suggest that there is another trillion in the hands of the fantastically wealthy. This money is chasing high returns; it is not content with treasury bills.
This is the money used to speculate in the oil futures markets and drive up the prices that we are all paying. This is the money privatizing businesses and then reselling them for fantastic profits. This is the money trying to privatize government services, both pooled and direct.
I think this is the real story. Where the hell did all this come from? How did things get like this? How can we fix it? How do we even begin to talk about it?
masaccio @
140
It would make sense that those managing these funds would want to have larger and larger infusions of capital to use as leverage, and tapping into the tax base for Social Security or Medicare would, at least indirectly, move lots of money in their direction.
My mother said that while the 50s were a good time to raise children, she didn’t want to live in them again.
The people who want to live in the 50s get asked if they’re willing to give up for it:
microwave ovens
DVD and CD players and TiVO
personal computers, PDAs, and handheld calculators
most drugs
minimally-invasive surgery
organ transplants
ABS brakes, airbags, and seatbelts in cars
out-of-season fruits and veggies from other countries
reliable automatic dishwashers
color TV
24-hour TV and radio broadcasting
instant news coverage
the Internet
DrenchedOtter @
28
Credit card companies literally wrote the new bankruptcy bill.
Enablers — JOE “MBNA” BIDEN & HILLARY CLINTON.
Does William Grieder’s One World Ready or Not: the Manic Logic of Global Capitalism pertain to this?
(I’m not asking to be rhetorical, but ’cause I’m not certain it still applies after a span of some years…)
masaccio @ 140
The thing is some of these wealthy people and their advisors want to deploy their vast resources to close out public sector activities, and take them over as a way of investing the money in high return, low risk investments.
Andrew Leonard in Salon described the use of these pools of money to inflate the price of oil. The Frists made fortunes taking HCA private and reselling it. All the money that people make in those transactions comes from the patients, kind of like the description of TXU above. I know it’s late in this thread, not to mention late on Saturday night, and I hope to carry this another time.
TheOtherWA @
23
These are the same financial firms that Bush wanted to turn over to managing those “privatized” Individual Unvestment Plans.
TeddySanFran @ 115
Tricked me. Thought you had a new thread up.
Kirk Murphy @ 144
I don’t know the book and will go look. I remember that we liberals used to say the tax cuts for the wealthy were used to buy treasury bonds, so that instead of raising revenues to run the government, we were borrowing it from the wealthy. Now they want more.
Loo Hoo @
147
Pach has a new thread. Teddy’s just buying a book.
Scarecrow @
38
In addition, the plans created by his “commission” (made up of course by major bankers and financial players) lacked the “transferability” of actual savings accounts or true private investments. So while the stock market would expand (and guess who’s stock values would rise the most…those who already were invested BEFORE the plans came into law) the employees would have to purchase split stocks from other investors (i.e. those that made the plans). And the palns really were not disposable. One couldn’t access the profits until one retired, and even then they were shifted to annuities. So no purchasing that business, home, or taking that world vacation with a large withdrawal.
Initially the “employees” would see huge increases in their (sequestered) private funds. They couldn’t access that money, but they’d be exceeding the gains made by the more cautious SSI by leaps and bounds, ON PAPER. THAT would make everyone THINK that this was a great policy decision. But then the demographic “bubble” would be reached and the losses would be equally immense.
And get this! The plans eliminated the matching contribution made by employers to the SSI! These private plans essentially cut the amount put into an SSI account by 50% (unless, of course, the worker opted to double their payments. So the Bush plans eliminated that “onerous” SSI contribution made by businesses…and large employee heavy firms like Walmart, McDonalds, etc. would make billions more every year as their employee paychecks were cut.
At some point the amount of $$$ coming in plateaus. The wealthy can pull their money out of the market well before that “bubble” is reached. These “private retirement plan” holders have no such flexibility. They’d have to stay in…and get screwed.
And then there’s the simple fact that the SSI program wasn’t on the verge of bankruptcy and could be fixed by some simple adjustments. Even the income/outlay point was some 30 years from now, with possible bankruptcy a decade or more after that! But by withdrawing millions of workers from it -SSI WOULD soon go bankrupt (particularly because the system has been abused by taking funds from it to fund things like Iraq!). Probably by 2016! Then the PUBLIC would be stuck with a $10 trillion dollar bailout of the system to pay all future benefits from those already retired.
With less than a quarter of that same $10 trillion the system could be fixed well into the next century!
Pretty obvious which was the better deal.
Outstanding post. Tales from the Grid are fascinating.
Coming soon…Dirty Fucking Hippies Synchronously Inverting Sunshine.
Any program that has decent funding will be a target for “private sector” …. education. This will be thru scams (current leaders are good at it but a few get caught) or thru legislation ….. “charter” schools funneling funds.
We don’t need insurance.
We need MEDICAL CARE.
Sheesh — what’s so hard to grasp about that?
Superb post Scarecrow, badly needed insight these days as well as some magnificent comments. The more people are exposed to these reality based observations and the more familiarity with economic facts people have, he less likely these conniving fuckeries will be pulled upon the public. It is public ignorance and disassociation that has allowed the country to get into its present state of disfunction. I would hope to see many more like postings here and hopefully other places as well. To cure a disease, it is always handy to have a name for it and the treatment to cure isn’t then at dispute. All the best……
To visualize the problem with universal health care, one needs to identify the lowest level details. This would be local clinics, staffed with qualified personnel, available to all. This flies in the face of the current system. Doctors, PAs, RNs, etc. would have to be trained, clinics would have to be built, procedures would have to be developed, etc. When all you talk about is insuring everyone, you are merely subsidizing the current system with all of its outlandish costs and inefficiencies. This will not work. A new paradigm will need to be developed, and, yes, costs will need to be controlled. Doctors and HMO/HealthCare/Insurance executives do not need to be making millions of dollars a year.
EXCELLENT post (yeah, I’m shouting). Permanently bookmarked, to be studied again and again.
dakine01 @
7
Can we say Enron?
OT from previous thread – I left a question in re: Maureen O’Hara movie…
ENRON. And price-fixing. And screwing the California consumer in the process. Yeah, we can say Enron. Can we say “selling the country to the highest bidder” and “Impeach Now”?