((((FDL))))

Hi, Jane. I hope you’re feeling well and the prognosis is good.
On the matter of commenting, conflicts of interest, and whatnot. Cornyn should be asked to recuse himself from the committee during these investigations. All we’ll get from him is self-serving, sweep-the-truth-under-the-rug, non-condemnations of AGAG. Enough’s enough!

http://salon.glenrose.net/defa…..mp;id=1686

Says it all about Cornyn IMO

the dixie chicks got shit on for saying they were ashamed that bush was from texas… they can keep going with cornyn, delay, gonzo, miers, and on and on… quite a list

EPU’d

Schumer:”…you must be reading the Legal Times…wait till you see the Indian files!…”
dailykos link

Jane!

ia TPM, it seems Box Turtle Cornryn thinks Gonzales should say on because “the Democrats aren’t going to be satisfied with just Al Gonzales.”

You got that right Jack.
I want ALL of them.

Of course the Democrats won’t be satisfied if Gonzales leaves. He and every other member of the corrupt and inept Justice Department who has testified has sworn: “It wasn’t me!” when they have been asked who came up with the list of Those Who Had to Go.

Gonzales is just the diminutive leader of a parade of Other Guys, each of whom has testified that it must have been somebody else. The reason Cornyn knows what he knows is that they all seem to be pointing, maybe just with an eyebrow, at the White House.

Your media inaction.

Fixed.

Canuck Stuck in Muck @
2

Hi, Jane. I hope you’re feeling well and the prognosis is good.
On the matter of commenting, conflicts of interest, and whatnot. Cornyn should be asked to recuse himself from the committee during these investigations. All we’ll get from him is self-serving, sweep-the-truth-under-the-rug, non-condemnations of AGAG. Enough’s enough!

Yeah, but Cornyn is too busy saying Schumer should recuse himself

The American MSM is lazy, complicit, compromised and culpable. Is it any wonder that so many Americans know more about American Idol than who their Vice President is?

WordPress issue

should say on because

Lou Costello @ 5

EPU’d

Schumer:”…you must be reading the Legal Times…wait till you see the Indian files!…”
kos link

This looks to my like it is the Legal Times reference:
law.com link

Abramoff isn’t mentioned enough anywhere in Congress. He’s a dirty word. He is he-who-shall-not-be-named.

Evil wingnut logic, Cornyn version:

1. Everything I do is from partisan motivation
2. Therefore, everyone else must think the same way.
3. Therefore, the only reason the Dems are going after the scandal is for partisan gain.
4. Therefore, the only important factor in deciding Gonzales’ fate is whether we can prevent them from “winning.”

Presto!

Mr. Gonzales is a quick study. He’s noticed that what’s missing from discussions about Mr. Bush’s poorly phrased self-description – that he’s the Decider – is that he needn’t do anything else.

Mr. Gonzales admires that Mr. Bush needn’t understand what he’s deciding, what’s at issue, what will it cost, who will it benefit or harm and why, what would change or stay the same. In short, all the costs, benefits and risks, the things that any good CEO would want to know before exercising his or her authority as Decision Maker in Chief.

To paper over his inadequacies, Mr. Bush doesn’t just use a ruler that labels six centimeters as six inches. He redefines the role of CEO as Button Pusher in Chief. It’s only the hired help that needs to know how things work.

For Mr. Gonzales, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

And I have the dubious “pleasure” of having to call Cornyn one of my senators. I’ve contacted his office a couple of times to comment on his actions/words or lack thereof in the last year since moving to TX. Let’s just say that I’ve been decidedly underwhelmed by the responses I’ve received.

If the window is still open, I’d like to place my bet:

Gonzo will NOT go today.

Bush is off on his high school gymnasium tour trying to sell his Chicken-plucking-factory reform. Cheney is likely deep in a bunker somewhere, feverishly chiseling bricks out of the wall to make a secret compartment for his gold bullion.

Snarks aside, I think the strategy is to keep Gonzo in the line of fire as long as possible, as a human shield. Damn the party, damn the Justice system, damn it all…it’s every man for himself.

$10 on Gonzo to win today.

OT, America can only begin to reclaim it’s place among civilized nations when it is willing to turn over the war criminals wandering the halls of the Executive, Legislative and Judicial branches or World Bank. These men and women must be held accountable for their crime of pre-emptive war and crimes against humanity. America can only reclaim it’s self-respect and sense of itself when members of the current Republican Party are clad in prison orange.

Box turtle speaketh the truth. The only reason the Republican Senators and the seal-clubbing WH aides want to throw Abu overboard is in the (vain) hope that it will put an end to the scandal. Otherwise we wouldn’t hear any such “criticism” of Bush.

Redshift 2 15

I thought that was the reasoning of all of the GOoPers!

Jane, I agree that someone needs to ask about the choreographing of guys like Cornyn. (I think they do it for nomination hearings too. It would explain why they seem to be oblivious to so many of the responses: ‘Hey, I can ignore this, because I already know how this is going to come out.’)

Want more media bad news? I just read at mediabistro.com that the rumors of Smerconish being simulcast on MSNBC are true. They say that it is just a trial. What do we have to do to get a liberal on TV?
They have Scarborough, Carlson, Beck, O’Reilly, Hannity, Fox & friends, Hume, Wallace, on and on. They say we have Olberman. Personally, I just think he’s against Bush and wants the lies of Iraq exposed but I have no idea if all his views are liberal.
This is beyond disgusting.

Gunga Djinn @
18

If the window is still open, I’d like to place my bet:

Gonzo will NOT go today.

Bush is off on his high school gymnasium tour trying to sell his Chicken-plucking-factory reform. Cheney is likely deep in a bunker somewhere, feverishly chiseling bricks out of the wall to make a secret compartment for his gold bullion.

Snarks aside, I think the strategy is to keep Gonzo in the line of fire as long as possible, as a human shield. Damn the party, damn the Justice system, damn it all…it’s every man for himself.

$10 on Gonzo to win today.

i’ll take that bet – if you’ll agree that whoever loses will put the $10 in the blueamerica kitty. are you on?

What’s going on with the DeLay trial?

Loo Hoo @ 24

What’s going on with the DeLay trial?

Last I heard, it got handed to some inexperienced Bush chronie who is sitting on it.

selise & Gunga Djin
Did you see my link to Schumer’s Legal Times remark? It’s a bio of his staff member, Preet Bahara, who’s helping him prepare.
http://www.law.com/jsp/dc/PubA…..toriesMore

eCAHNomics @ 13

Lou Costello @ 5
EPU’d

Schumer:”…you must be reading the Legal Times…wait till you see the Indian files!…”
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/4/15/114515/619
——————-
This looks to my like it is the Legal Times reference:
http://www.law.com/jsp/dc/PubA…..toriesMore

I found nothing there about the ‘Indian Files’. Did you look at my link? 750,000!

Lou Costello @ 27
eCAHNomics @ 13
Lou Costello @ 5
EPU’d

Schumer:”…you must be reading the Legal Times…wait till you see the Indian files!…”
link
This looks to my like it is the Legal Times reference:
http://www.law.com/jsp/dc/PubA…..toriesMore

I found nothing there about the ‘Indian Files’. Did you look at my link? 750,000!

It’s not about Indian files. That’s the point. Schumer said to a reporter “You must be reading Legal Times.” Then on Legal Times there is a story about Schumer’s assistant. I personally could not make out anything in Schumer’s comments about Indian files, but distinctly heard Legal Times.

Georgesimian @ 25

Loo Hoo @ 24

What’s going on with the DeLay trial?

Last I heard, it got handed to some inexperienced Bush chronie who is sitting on it.

You’ve got to be kidding? He’s all over the airwaves (another insult to Americans) proclaiming his innocence.
The Dems MUST stand up and impeach Bush. He has not been stopped by the last election. His crimes continue. And The U.S. may not survive 2 more years of this criminal reign.

selize @ 23

i’ll take that bet – if you’ll agree that whoever loses will put the $10 in the blueamerica kitty. are you on?

[grumble grumble…]

OK, but under one condition…that you are not pulling the Newman/Redford Sting on me, wherebye a wire delay (cyber or otherwise) has already informed you that Gonzo is gone.

Time logged at this post, plus 3.0 hours, yields Beltway time, I believe. (for the records)

you are on. and the window is now closed.

[grumble, grumble, in my best Jack Benny voice.]

OT – yesterday speaker pelosi appointed the house conferees for H.R.1591 (supplemental appropriations for iraq war). here’s hoping the withdrawal timeline stays in!

4/19/2007 Resolving differences — House actions. Status: The Speaker appointed conferees: Obey, DeLauro, Murtha, Visclosky, Lowey, Price (NC), Dicks, Edwards, Mollohan, Olver, Serrano, Wasserman Schultz, Clyburn, Lewis (CA), Young (FL), Rogers (KY), Wolf, Walsh (NY), Hobson, Knollenberg, Kingston, Frelinghuysen, and Wicker.

Gunga Djinn @ 18

Snarks aside, I think the strategy is to keep Gonzo in the line of fire as long as possible, as a human shield.

I agree.

eCAHNomics @ 26

selise & Gunga Djin
Did you see my link to Schumer’s Legal Times remark? It’s a bio of his staff member, Preet Bahara, who’s helping him prepare.
http://www.law.com/jsp/dc/PubA…..toriesMore

no, i didn’t see it before. many thanks for the link!

eCAHNomics @ 28

Lou Costello @ 27
eCAHNomics @ 13
Lou Costello @ 5
EPU’d

Schumer:”…you must be reading the Legal Times…wait till you see the Indian files!…”
kos link
This looks to my like it is the Legal Times reference:
law.com link

I found nothing there about the ‘Indian Files’. Did you look at my link? 750,000!

It’s not about Indian files. That’s the point. Schumer said to a reporter “You must be reading Legal Times.” Then on Legal Times there is a story about Schumer’s assistant. I personally could not make out anything in Schumer’s comments about Indian files, but distinctly heard Legal Times.

this refers to the Abramoff email collection, right? somebody’s got it but it hasn’t been released for scrutiny …….

eCAHNomics @ 28

Lou Costello @ 27
eCAHNomics @ 13
Lou Costello @ 5
EPU’d

Schumer:”…you must be reading the Legal Times…wait till you see the Indian files!…”
kos link
This looks to my like it is the Legal Times reference:
law.com link

I found nothing there about the ‘Indian Files’. Did you look at my link? 750,000!

It’s not about Indian files. That’s the point. Schumer said to a reporter “You must be reading Legal Times.” Then on Legal Times there is a story about Schumer’s assistant. I personally could not make out anything in Schumer’s comments about Indian files, but distinctly heard Legal Times.

From yesterday’s CSpan MORNING session:

3:10:45 C-SPAN commentator ends, live mic & full room camera frame, chatter, female voice chatting with Schumer out of camera frame.

Female Voice: (inaudible)
Schumer:”…you must be reading the Legal Times…wait till you see the Indian files!…
Female voice: “(chuckles)…the Indian files?”
Schumer:”(inaudible)…justtttt soooo many inconsistencies..(inaudible)”
http://www.c-span.org/videoarc…..odePairs=, @ 3:10:45

spurious @ 32

Gunga Djinn @ 18

Snarks aside, I think the strategy is to keep Gonzo in the line of fire as long as possible, as a human shield.

I agree.

I’ve even heard Repug commentators praise this as good strategy.

Basically, Bush has pulled a coup d’etat! He’s committed crimes, and the DOJ won’t investigate them. What’s going to stop him now?

drive by o/t

Appellate Court to USA Milwaukee Steve Biskupic on his case against Ms. Thompson

“Preposterous”

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.c…..013759.php

fahrender @ 34
At the end of yesterday’s morning session, Schumer held a presser which C-SPAN’s open mics caught. He said something about Legal Times, which is the reference in my link, a bio of the person working for Schumer on the USA investigation. Others, but not me, also heard him refer to Indian files, and gave a link to dailykos diary, which relates them to Abramoff.

from wiki…

Tactically, a coup usually involves control of some active portion of the military while neutralizing the remainder of a country’s armed services. This active group captures or expels leaders, seizes physical control of important government offices, means of communication, and the physical infrastructure, such as streets and power plants. The coup succeeds if its opponents fail to dislodge the plotters, allowing them to consolidate their position, obtain the surrender or acquiescence of the populace and surviving armed forces, and claim legitimacy. Coups typically use the power of the existing government for its own takeover. As Edward Luttwak remarks in his Coup d’tat: A Practical Handbook: “A coup consists of the infiltration of a small but critical segment of the state apparatus, which is then used to displace the government from its control of the remainder.” In this sense, use of military or other organized force is not the defining feature of a coup d’tat.

If you haven’t seen the video that Donita has up yet I very strongly urge you to watch it.
It’s hysterically funny and so damn cute at the same time.
I just emailed a ton of people and told them to watch it.

http://www.firedoglake.com/200…../#comments

Gonzales IS the obstruction of justice.

Bring on the 750,000 documents in the Abramoff investigation cover-up, the 5,000,000 missing WH emails, and all the RNC email and blackberry messages. Cornyn and all the rest of them will be toast.

I EPU’d two threads ago that Truthout has an article about the upcoming Moyers program that says, of the 414 pre-war propaganda stories by the major networks, almost all can be traced directly to the WH, State Department, and DOD. How he traced it is of interest. I wonder what he has.

TV reporters seem to be in a constant state of auditioning for Fox News. They know that having ever asked hard questions to Republicans disqualifies them from jobs on Fox.

Via TPM, it seems Box Turtle Cornryn thinks Gonzales should say on because “the Democrats aren’t going to be satisfied with just Al Gonzales.” Don’t really know how having a corrupt, incompetent and memory challenged AG is somehow okay because it won’t make the Democrats happy, but in wingnut bizarroworld evidently this makes sense.

Freud and Jung would have field days with these clowns. Everything the bastards accuse the Democrats of doing, is something they themselves have already done thirty-two-zillion-times over.

Phoenix Woman @ 44

Via TPM, it seems Box Turtle Cornryn thinks Gonzales should say on because “the Democrats aren’t going to be satisfied with just Al Gonzales.” Don’t really know how having a corrupt, incompetent and memory challenged AG is somehow okay because it won’t make the Democrats happy, but in wingnut bizarroworld evidently this makes sense.

Freud and Jung would have field days with these clowns. Everything the bastards accuse the Democrats of doing, is something they themselves have already done thirty-two-zillion-times over.

It’s a side effect of having sold their souls to the Bush family.

Jane,

Last year I spent a lot of time going through Abramoff-related documents, but mostly looking at Greenberg Traurig LLP’s relationship with US House members. I was doing oppo research on Don Young for Diane Benson. I spent little time on the Senate links to Abramoff. Just like Abramoff’s corruption of the House, the Senate scandals waiting to emerge are HUGE. And Cornyn’s antics make a lot more sense when put into the context of his extreme vulnerability re having been brought in seven years ago by Ralph Reed, as a co-conspirator in a massive felony.

But I disagree that the other firings were, as you put it, “in large part a smoke screen so as not to call attention to Lam’s removal.” The suppression of African-American voting in the old Confederacy, and suppression of minority voting in urban areas and California is one of the cornerstones to maintaining GOP power. The transformation of the DOJ Civil Rights section into a white collar KKK is just as important as the Abramoff connection. The firings of the USAttys who refused to create fictitious “voter fraud” cases was meant as a message to the other 92 USAttys.

I wonder if there is a Native American website somewhere that has anything of interest posted on it (like emails they might have that we haven’t seen yet). I’m going to search. You know how ticked off they are. Anyone know any good Native American linkys?

Just how many bodies are their buried in the Admins closet? Blog after blog, uncovering more and more scandals, it isn’t really having any impact anymore, it’s commonplace. So it’s 3:00 on the east coast, and a Friday- what’s the next buried lede going to be?

Gunga Djinn @ 30

selize @ 23

i’ll take that bet – if you’ll agree that whoever loses will put the $10 in the blueamerica kitty. are you on?

[grumble grumble…]

OK, but under one condition…that you are not pulling the Newman/Redford Sting on me, wherebye a wire delay (cyber or otherwise) has already informed you that Gonzo is gone.

Time logged at this post, plus 3.0 hours, yields Beltway time, I believe. (for the records)

you are on. and the window is now closed.

[grumble, grumble, in my best Jack Benny voice.]

hehe! thank you! ….just thought it was a good excuse to cough up a bit for the blueamerica kitty. just paid the tab – win or lose it’s for a good cause!

Nancy Pelosi has this at the Gavel:

Gonzales Must Resign

April 20th, 2007 by Speaker Pelosi

The Attorney General is the defender of the Constitution and the chief law enforcement officer. The people of the United States must have absolute confidence in the integrity of their Attorney General.

By his actions and with his testimony yesterday, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales has lost the trust of the American people. The nation cannot have a chief law enforcement officer whose candor and judgment are in serious question.

The President should restore credibility to the office of the Attorney General. Alberto Gonzales must resign.

You got that right Jack.
I want ALL of them.

Yup, and we want to march them off to the frickin’ Hague, starting with Paul-frickin’-Wolfowitz and the rest of the PNAC Platoon.

From Henry Wazman:

Committee to Consider Four Subpoenas to Further Investigations

The Oversight Committee will hold a business meeting on Wednesday, April 25, at which four subpoenas for testimony and documents will be considered. The subpoenas under consideration are for:

The testimony of Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice regarding the fabricated claim that Iraq sought uranium from Niger and other issues;

The testimony of former White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card regarding the leak of Valerie Plame Wilson’s covert identity and White House security procedures;

RNC documents related to possible violations of the Presidential Records Act and the Hatch Act by White House officials;

Contacts between the White House and MZM, a federal contractor implicated in bribery charges.

LINK

Canuck Stuck in Muck @ 2

Hi, Jane. I hope you’re feeling well and the prognosis is good.
On the matter of commenting, conflicts of interest, and whatnot. Cornyn should be asked to recuse himself from the committee during these investigations. All we’ll get from him is self-serving, sweep-the-truth-under-the-rug, non-condemnations of AGAG. Enough’s enough!

is such a request to the Senate Ethics committee in order and if so who would make such a request?

btw, Hi Jane! Hope you are well and ready for your afternoon walk. Read any good letters lately? lol.

Link to Waxman/Card letter dated Apr. 20, 2007

Waxman to Andrew Card

Where does Card fit into the betrayal of Valerie Plame? EW? You here?

LS

I wonder if there is a Native American website somewhere that has anything of interest posted on it (like emails they might have that we haven’t seen yet). I’m going to search. You know how ticked off they are. Anyone know any good Native American linkys

http://wampum.wabanaki.net/

Letter to RNC from Waxman dated Apr. 20, 2007 relating to subpeona:Waxman to RNC

Gunga Djinn @ 18

Gonzo will NOT go today….

Snarks aside, I think the strategy is to keep Gonzo in the line of fire as long as possible, as a human shield….

I agree they’re going to keep Gonzo on as long as possible, in part to throw interference for Karl.

But it’s not just human shields we’re talking about.

They’re keeping this entire scandal alive as long as possible, because as sleazariffic as it may be, it doesn’t boil down to high crimes and misdemeanors. Wilson/Plame, torture authorization, warrantless eavesdropping are far more impeachalicious.

I think the Bush folk have recognized for weeks that Gonzo is toast and the AG firing affair is a disaster. But they’ve asked Gonzo, as the scandal’s embodiment, to stay on as the pinata du jour (to mix linguistic metaphors), to throw interference for the far larger pinatas waiting in the wings.

tech question:

why do some links open another window and other links don’t?

Some lousy fishing expedition…

All we keep catching is “crappie”…

After listening to the entire bullshit session yesterday, I have to summarize:

The Bush White House is a crime machine.
I would never in a million years have thought
that could happen in the USA, but Gonzo’s coverup was so dramatic and balant… I’m
ashamed of America.
We are corrupt.
Monica, in my view MUST be given immunity so
we can bring her testimony to light…
Subpoenas must be issued and why the DEMS are
playing nice is beyond me.
Bush has lost his mind and must be impeached
on incompetantcy alone…

AZ Matt @ 52

From Henry Wazman:

Committee to Consider Four Subpoenas to Further Investigations

The Oversight Committee will hold a business meeting on Wednesday, April 25, at which four subpoenas for testimony and documents will be considered. The subpoenas under consideration are for:

The testimony of Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice regarding the fabricated claim that Iraq sought uranium from Niger and other issues;

The testimony of former White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card regarding the leak of Valerie Plame Wilson’s covert identity and White House security procedures;

RNC documents related to possible violations of the Presidential Records Act and the Hatch Act by White House officials;

Contacts between the White House and MZM, a federal contractor implicated in bribery charges.

LINK

Good news. Let’s hope they consider them and then serve them.

Apr. 20, 2007 Letter from Waxman to F. Fielding on subpeona for MZM ralated materials: Waxman to Fielding

Ed*ard Teller @
46

Jane,

Last year I spent a lot of time going through Abramoff-related documents, but mostly looking at Greenberg Traurig LLP’s relationship with US House members. I was doing oppo research on Don Young for Diane Benson. I spent little time on the Senate links to Abramoff. Just like Abramoff’s corruption of the House, the Senate scandals waiting to emerge are HUGE. And Cornyn’s antics make a lot more sense when put into the context of his extreme vulnerability re having been brought in seven years ago by Ralph Reed, as a co-conspirator in a massive felony.

But I disagree that the other firings were, as you put it, “in large part a smoke screen so as not to call attention to Lam’s removal.” The suppression of African-American voting in the old Confederacy, and suppression of minority voting in urban areas and California is one of the cornerstones to maintaining GOP power. The transformation of the DOJ Civil Rights section into a white collar KKK is just as important as the Abramoff connection. The firings of the USAttys who refused to create fictitious “voter fraud” cases was meant as a message to the other 92 USAttys.

I don’t disagree that suppressing African-American voting wasn’t an objective, but I think it was one of those “two birds with one stone” things. I think Lam was the primary objective but they needed some smoke to cover it, and why not take the opportunity?

Henry had his Wheaties this morning.

to Lou Cost & eCAHN,

want to study the Dkos & Legal Times links you provided, but have to run out for awhile.

re: C-SPAN audio

I placed a comment about the technical issues on what is and isn’t being heard by different listeners. It’s 1 or 2 threads back in EPU land.

Skim over it if you can locate it. I’m not just babbling there. There are real, physical effects in play when we push analog (live voice) information through digitizers, distributors, storage, retrieval, and finally back through de-digitizers (digital to analog converters) to drive an audio speaker. It’s just a bit hard to explain completely in one paragraph & 100 words or less. (just trust me…master data can be reproduced, then not be re-produced, at your ear, differently from playback to playback.)

If you enjoy experiments, run the C-SPAN segment 10 times. Record what you heard each time on a note pad, as accurately as you can.
Then compare the results in columnar fashion. Each listen will yield different audible segments or snips. Proper columnar alignment of the time-slice segments can be summed, yielding the complete message. But no single play will yield the whole message

I know, blah, blah, blah…right?

:P

Speaking of USAs, where do we stand on Goodling? That’s Waxman too? When was the immunity discussion postponed to?

Frank Probst @ 66

Henry had his Wheaties this morning.

The whole bloody box!

eCAHNomics @ 68

Speaking of USAs, where do we stand on Goodling? That’s Waxman too? When was the immunity discussion postponed to?

I thought that was Conyers. I’m having trouble keeping all of the scandals straight.

LS @ 47

I wonder if there is a Native American website somewhere that has anything of interest posted on it (like emails they might have that we haven’t seen yet). I’m going to search. You know how ticked off they are. Anyone know any good Native American linkys?

HI ya’ll – here’s a website for Indian Issues http://www.aimmovement.org

Frank Probst @ 56

Where does Card fit into the betrayal of Valerie Plame? EW? You here?

willing to bet Marcy (and probably Christy) are working on posts on these announcements. The one on Card is interesting, but the one on Rice is really interesting. JMO.

Bay State Librul @ 62

After listening to the entire bullshit session yesterday, I have to summarize:

The Bush White House is a crime machine.
I would never in a million years have thought
that could happen in the USA, but Gonzo’s coverup was so dramatic and balant… I’m
ashamed of America.
We are corrupt.
Monica, in my view MUST be given immunity so
we can bring her testimony to light…
Subpoenas must be issued and why the DEMS are
playing nice is beyond me.
Bush has lost his mind and must be impeached
on incompetantcy alone…

Yeah, it’s not like Goodling was a Rougue Operator, she’s a Rove Operative.

but I’m also with those who don’t want to be hasty because I, too, am still furious about Iran/Contra. We wouldn’t be in this mess now if justice was properly served then, and Watergate.

AZ Matt @ 58

Letter to RNC from Waxman dated Apr. 20, 2007 relating to subpeona:Waxman to RNC

I still think this is taking too long. Henry should go get the servers. Now.

Bay State Librul @ 62

After listening to the entire bullshit session yesterday, I have to summarize:

The Bush White House is a crime machine.
I would never in a million years have thought
that could happen in the USA, but Gonzo’s coverup was so dramatic and balant… I’m
ashamed of America.
We are corrupt.
Monica, in my view MUST be given immunity so
we can bring her testimony to light…
Subpoenas must be issued and why the DEMS are
playing nice is beyond me.
Bush has lost his mind and must be impeached
on incompetantcy alone…

can we give monica goodling immunity on the condition she attends ‘reich-wing xtian cult’ deprogramming sessions?

Georgesimian @ 37

Basically, Bush has pulled a coup d’etat! He’s committed crimes, and the DOJ won’t investigate them. What’s going to stop him now?

Perhaps it would be time to consider several options. 1: Keep Gonzo on the hill constantly testifying and under pressure. 2: Impeach him ASAP, I really think you would see enough of the Republicans go along with that to get it done. There is a strong chance that Gonzo might roll if served papers of impeachment, depends if he thinks Bush will abandon him or not! One thing might come out of this that many of us Vets would like to know is who massaged the Chicken in Chief’s military records!

O/T- I simply had to respond to Charles SauerKrautHammer regarding his smarmy OpEd in the WaPo.

“What can be said about the Va. Tech massacre? Very little. What should be said? Even less…”
____

Are you REALLY that oblivious to your utter self-refutation in your OpEd?

You start out with that assertion, and then blab on narcissistically for 1,000 words, using your platform to advance your OWN agenda (principally dissing “liberals”).

I know; you’re A Legend In Your Own Mind, and what guidance applies to others does not apply to you.

You’re a joke.

Griles is tricky s.o.b.

So does spousal-immunity come into play now?
Hard to believe the answer is anything but “yes”:

Three days after guilty plea, Griles ties the knot
By Mike Soraghan
April 20, 2007
Two Bush administration officials who have been linked in scandal are now linked in wedlock.

The union of former Deputy Interior Secretary J. Steven Griles and Sue Ellen Wooldridge could have implications for the investigation into Griles€™s ties to ex-lobbyist Jack Abramoff.

They were married March 26, three days after Griles pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about his relationship with Abramoff and a previous romantic partner. Wooldridge was the top environmental prosecutor at the Department of Justice (DoJ) before she resigned in January.

Legal experts note that people can refuse to testify against their spouses, and that in some cases, people can prevent their spouse from testifying against them.

“There have been plenty of cases where marriage was a good strategy for a criminal defendant,€ said Jonathan Turley, a George Washington University law professor. But he added, €œIt€™s plausible they simply picked an odd time to wed.”

Such “spousal privilege” can be waived in a plea agreement requiring a defendant to cooperate with an ongoing investigation like the Abramoff investigation, said Roscoe Howard, a former U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, now with Troutman Sanders in Washington.

…

Gunga Djinn @ 67
Thanks, but my ears & computer will never be good enough to hear the Indian comment. I’m not denying that it’s there. I’m only saying that the Legal Times reference, which everyone heard, was most likely related to the article in that publication on Schumer’s assistant. The other comment could well have been there too. It’s not a matter of either/or, but possibly ‘all of the above.’

Thanks muchly, Jane, nice job. Galled me to no end yesterday listening to that walking conflict of interest.

And Hatch, too. I’ll be gawddemned if that bastard from Utah makes AG any time.

LinkHere a Link on the Griles story at Wampum:

ralphbon @ 59

They’re keeping this entire scandal alive as long as possible, because as sleazariffic as it may be, it doesn’t boil down to high crimes and misdemeanors. Wilson/Plame, torture authorization, warrantless eavesdropping are far more impeachalicious.

This is a quote from an earlier post (not mine):

High Misdemeanor is an archaic term in English Law for a number of positive misprisions, neglects and contempts. The most important example being that of maladministration in high office. [emphais added]

[…]

Maladministration is a political term which describes the actions of a government body which can be seen as causing an injustice … and can include:

* Delay
* Incorrect action or failure to take any action
* Failure to follow procedures or the law
* Failure to provide information
* Inadequate record-keeping
* Failure to investigate
* Failure to reply
* Misleading or inaccurate statements
* Inadequate liaison
* Inadequate consultation
* Broken promises

Now, tell me again that what Gonzo’s done doesn’t meet the definition of “high misdemeanor.”

Look at this list very carefully, because I think every facet of it has been met and exceeded by Rove, Cheney, and Bush as well.

Here’s a letter from Gonzo, March 2007, offering to settle for $7 Billion over land deals, etc. Timing is very interesting.

BobbyG @ 77
When emailing people like that, I try to put my whole message in the subject line. That way, they don’t have the possibility of avoiding reading it. For example, in your case, the aubject could have been:

1000 words of narcissistic self-refutation. Proud yet?

I forgot to put the link in:

http://indian.senate.gov/publi…..thorne.pdf

Mabel’s Wig Shack @
75

can we give monica goodling immunity on the condition she attends ‘reich-wing xtian cult’ deprogramming sessions?

Do such programs, run in the context of de-programming GOP apparatchiks, exist? Are they effective?

Maybe some good indian stuff on this page:

http://wampum.wabanaki.net/vau…..he_injuns/

LS @ 87

Maybe some good indian stuff on this page:

http://wampum.wabanaki.net/vau…..he_injuns/

This is a could website too, more straight news from Indian Country:Indianz.com

Jane, this may seem OT, but I’ll get to the point about Reed and Coryn at the end…:

Agree that the other fired USAs may have been camoflage for Lam, but also suspect it was a message from the Rovian, Cheney/authoritarian wing that ‘you’ll play by our rules, or we’ll screw you.’ Look how all those USAs went quietly, while Monica Goodling (!) or her ilk determined their fates.

One of the USAs who ‘went quietly’ was John McKay, who’d been trying to get better tools for white collar crime and that would surely have included better computer forensics, wouldn’t it?

I go back to Rove having “THE numbers” for the election, pre-Nov 2006. How did he know THE numbers? How could he, unless he was creating them…? In order to CREATE “THE numbers,” he would have needed ADMIN permissions to the RNC server(s).

If Rove had ADMIN permissions on an RNC server, and if that server also hosted election counting information, then he could move between directories, overwrite files, and then ‘delete’ traces of activity that he thought put him at risk of discovery. He should have been able to ‘overwrite’ some of the server logs, thereby hiding evidence of tampering.

Rove has worked with databases since… the early 80s? What types of databases? What types of servers? Has he ever hacked servers? If so, for what? And if so, how did he cover his tracks?

Coryn, and the Bu$hCo crowd would have been threatened by two things:
(1) investigations into corruption, esp anything related to defense, contracts, Iraq, Abramoff, or Enron — ALL of it is ‘white collar’ crime.
(2) law enforcement tools that would better track down white collar crime (see #1 above), particularly the development of techie tools to decipher tampering, etc.

Who was trying to push techie tools to help solve white collar crime? John McKay. I thought that I heard Gonzo reference the fact that McKay pissed off someone at the WH. Rather than solely assume it was about the Wa Guv election, a more interesting line of thought might also go along the lines of what McKay was advocating — the kinds of tools that would catch a creep like Rove.

So even if John McKay didn’t get in their way for #1, he may well have inadvertantly stumbled into the Dragon’s Lair via #2. Because wasn’t he hauling ass trying to push some better federal law enforcement database (sorry — I have no details on precisely what McKay was advocating, but perhaps someone else does…?)

W’Gate was about, “follow the money”.
AttyGate may be as much about, “follow the server permissions, the log files, and the database configs’ as it is about anything else.

So maybe it wasn’t simply a smokescreen for Lam? Maybe it was a smokescreen for other things as well. Otherwise, why did Gonzo state that McKay pissed off someone at the WH?

Am I crazy?

Re: Origin of CREA from GW Bush Texas archives..

http://wampum.wabanaki.net/vau…..02684.html

guess who is the vice chair of the Senate Ethis Committee?

From Indianz via Wampum – What Gonzales won’t testify about:

http://wampum.wabanaki.net/vau…..03543.html

AZ Matt @ 52

From Henry Wazman:

Committee to Consider Four Subpoenas to Further Investigations

The Oversight Committee will hold a business meeting on Wednesday, April 25, at which four subpoenas for testimony and documents will be considered. The subpoenas under consideration are for:

The testimony of Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice regarding the fabricated claim that Iraq sought uranium from Niger and other issues;

The testimony of former White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card regarding the leak of Valerie Plame Wilson’s covert identity and White House security procedures;

RNC documents related to possible violations of the Presidential Records Act and the Hatch Act by White House officials;

Contacts between the White House and MZM, a federal contractor implicated in bribery charges.

LINK

tee hee hee, thanks AZ Matt

readerOfTeaLeaves @ 89
Interesting hypothesis. I have no particular insight into it, except that it seems unlikely Rove has the facility with computers that you ascribe to him,* considering his obsessions lie elsewhere. But I’ll take you main point & expand it. I’ll bet we can find plenty of specific reasons why others besides Lam were fired. Rove’s operation sounds like a pretty paranoid place. I’ll bet they were looking for diloyalties under every rock & making mountains out of rock piles.

*Rove could have a computer geek side-kick. If so, it might be possible to find out the identity of such a perseon, perhaps.

So far from what I’m coming across, there seems to be a back door “settlement” attempt to shut up the Indians, and Gonzo is in the middle of the whole shebang. If that were to go through, we would never get to see the 750,000 documents. So far they have rejected the settlement offered by Gonzo and crew.

From the Austin American-Statesman editorial on Gonzo:

…
An attorney general so besieged, so doubted and so disrespected has no real authority anymore. It is baffling why Gonzales is still hanging on after he has lost so much support in Congress and within his own Republican Party. He cannot be an effective attorney general.

…

LINK

Here Wampum ties in the USAs:

http://wampum.wabanaki.net/vau…..03544.html

Great, Great Gonzo-Rove cartoon from David Horsey:Horsey Toon

William Rivers Pitt offers his take on What Gonzales Really Told Us on t r u t h o u t
today (Friday 20 April 2007). Here’s the conclusions:

It can be easily argued that Gonzales couldn’t answer simple questions, not because he is especially dumb, but because he truly didn’t know how. He wasn’t there to run the place, but to open doors for, and get out of the way of, Bush’s political hatchetmen. Any appointees who weren’t going along with the program, including those fired US attorneys, were swept aside.

It can just as easily be argued that he was able to answer those questions, but avoided doing so for tactical reasons. The New York Times’s editorial on Friday raised this line of thinking by stating: “At the end of the day, we were left wondering why the nation’s chief law-enforcement officer would paint himself as a bumbling fool. Perhaps it’s because the alternative is that he is not telling the truth. There is strong evidence that this purge was directed from the White House, and that Karl Rove, Mr. Bush’s top political adviser, and Harriet Miers, the former White House counsel, were deeply involved.”

Either way, subpoenas need to be delivered to the hatchetman-in-chief, Karl Rove, as well as to members of his crew, to gather their sworn public testimony on the matter. It was made clear Thursday that Gonzales wasn’t in charge at Justice, and Rove appears likely to have been the man who stood in his stead. Why? That’s why we ask questions.

This confirms the importance of Monica Goodling’s testimony. However, her testimony was shown to be less critical by Sen. Whitehouse near the end of Gonzo’s hearing when he produced the remarkable chart showing the hundreds of White House personnel who are authorized to contact 30 members of the DOJ.

Bob in HI

I hope Gonzo resigns soon.

I’m starting to feel sorry for the sommamabitch.

PLovering @ 100

I hope Gonzo resigns soon.

I’m starting to feel sorry for the sommamabitch.

I know this has been gone over to a faretheewell, but I’m wondering what those you who are around now think. In the event of a Gonzo gone, who could get confirmed by the Senate? Hopefully not LIEberman. Perhaps James Comey, an on-record Republican, the fella who appointed PJF… well maybe not Comey. Who else d’YOU think?

I think Lam was the primary objective but they needed some smoke to cover it, and why not take the opportunity?

I had never thought of this, but it makes a lot of sense. It’s also possible that in designing the cover-up they were trying to make it resemble what Jack Welch used to tell his people to do at GE, always fire the bottom 10% of your employees every year.

typo

“Via TPM, it seems Box Turtle Cornryn” –> Cornyn

Here’s a man who’s asking the right questions:

Waxman Sets Hearing to Consider Batch of Subpoenas
Friday, April 20; 2:03 pm
By Paul Singer,
Roll Call Staff

——————————————————————————–

House Oversight and Government Reform Chairman Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) is ginning up the subpoena mill, scheduling a meeting next week to consider subpoenas in four different investigations of the Bush administration.

Waxman sent four letters today to Republican officials explaining that because the committee has not received sufficient cooperation in several ongoing investigations, the committee will meet April 25 to consider issuing subpoenas.

Ten days ago, Waxman’s office issued a statement to Roll Call noting the restraint with which his committee has wielded its subpoena power.

“The committee is conducting long overdue oversight that has already saved taxpayers millions,” Waxman said at the time. “It has exercised all its powers responsibly. In contrast to the model set by the Republicans during the Clinton administration, when subpoenas were a daily occurrence, the Committee has yet to issue a subpoena.”

That may change next week.

Unless Republicans offer their testimony voluntarily, Waxman’s committee will consider issuing subpoenas for:

* Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice for testimony about her role in President Bush’s now discredited claim that Iraq was seeking to obtain uranium from Niger;

* Former White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card for his testimony in regard to the leak of former CIA operative Valerie Plame’s name to the press;

* The Republican National Committee for documents related to RNC e-mail accounts used by White House officials, including Karl Rove;

* And the White House for documents related to a federal contract given to a company that has been implicated in a bribery case.

Bob in HI

readerOfTeaLeaves @
89

Am I crazy?

In a word, NO.

Read luaptifer’s work on gwb43.com at ePluribus Media (much cross-posted at DailyKos).

Congressional firewall was useless, since they had an RNC contractor inside the network.

Data from OH elections (direct from precincts) was moving in and out of the same network as RNC servers.

There are many other domains and a dual IP address in play here as well.

You are not crazy; it’s just that the media is exceptionally stupid when it comes to technology and cannot explain this stuff. They cannot tell the people that their election was compromised as is their government, by a single party’s IT contractor.

LS @
47

I wonder if there is a Native American website somewhere that has anything of interest posted on it (like emails they might have that we haven’t seen yet). I’m going to search. You know how ticked off they are. Anyone know any good Native American linkys?

Best bet would be the Native American Rights Fund, but I’ll bet they don’t have it. Waxman’s or Leahy’s committee should subpoena these records, maybe subject to some screening criteria.

Bob in HI

AZ Matt @
55

Link to Waxman/Card letter dated Apr. 20, 2007

Waxman to Andrew Card

Right on!
WAX-MAN!!! Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da WAX-MAN!!!

Bob in HI

S.O.S. from MA @ 101

PLovering @ 100

I hope Gonzo resigns soon.

I’m starting to feel sorry for the sommamabitch.

I know this has been gone over to a faretheewell, but I’m wondering what those you who are around now think. In the event of a Gonzo gone, who could get confirmed by the Senate? Hopefully not LIEberman. Perhaps James Comey, an on-record Republican, the fella who appointed PJF… well maybe not Comey. Who else d’YOU think?

Sorry. Not a clue.

I really wish that folks would quit saying LIEberman would be a shoo-in for the next AG when the position opens. He probably could get it, but:

LIEberman won’t do it — he just got re-elected to his Senate seat, which will be his for six years. Why should he want a piddly AG position, that might last eighteen months?

This is about power, and being head of a Department in the Executive Branch does not carry the power that being a Senator does.

Crony Cornyn is crooked, crooked, crooked.