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		<title>By: parsley sage</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/17/honesty/#comment-630591</link>
		<dc:creator>parsley sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 07:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-628727&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;dreamcatcher @&lt;br /&gt;
                126              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;A professor from Israel gave his life to protect his students at VT.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=449090&amp;in_page_id=1811&quot;&gt;VT Hero Professor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course, our president will insist that we still have the right to bear arms.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wow.  That was a moving story–a 75 year old professor staying calm and protecting his young students.  Sounds like he lived through World War 2 (in Romania?), then awful regimes… before moving to Israel and then the U.S.  All the terrible talk (some linked in fdl) about why people didn’t jump the shooter.  Perhaps it takes someone with a lot of life experience (or training in chaotic dangerous situations) to understand what is happening while it’s happening.&lt;br /&gt;
O.k., enough of my uninformed ruminations–but thanks for the link.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-628727"><em>dreamcatcher @<br />
                126              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>A professor from Israel gave his life to protect his students at VT.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=449090&amp;in_page_id=1811">VT Hero Professor</a></p>
<p>Of course, our president will insist that we still have the right to bear arms.</p>
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<p>Wow.  That was a moving story–a 75 year old professor staying calm and protecting his young students.  Sounds like he lived through World War 2 (in Romania?), then awful regimes… before moving to Israel and then the U.S.  All the terrible talk (some linked in fdl) about why people didn’t jump the shooter.  Perhaps it takes someone with a lot of life experience (or training in chaotic dangerous situations) to understand what is happening while it’s happening.<br />
O.k., enough of my uninformed ruminations–but thanks for the link.</p>
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		<title>By: The Oracle</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/17/honesty/#comment-630490</link>
		<dc:creator>The Oracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 05:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Abu Gonzales will appear at the committee hearing carrying a bottle of industrial strength eyewash and singing:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m gonna wash those lies right out of your eyes,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m gonna wash those lies right out of your eyes,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And send them on their waaaayyy!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hey, who you gonna believe…me or your lying eyes?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m gonna wash those lies right out of your eyes,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m gonna wash those lies right out of your eyes,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And send…them…on…their…waaaaayyyy!!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Afterward, of course, the committee members will get out the soap and wash Abu’s mouth out.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abu Gonzales will appear at the committee hearing carrying a bottle of industrial strength eyewash and singing:</p>
<p>I’m gonna wash those lies right out of your eyes,</p>
<p>I’m gonna wash those lies right out of your eyes,</p>
<p>And send them on their waaaayyy!!!</p>
<p>Hey, who you gonna believe…me or your lying eyes?</p>
<p>I’m gonna wash those lies right out of your eyes,</p>
<p>I’m gonna wash those lies right out of your eyes,</p>
<p>And send…them…on…their…waaaaayyyy!!!!</p>
<p>Afterward, of course, the committee members will get out the soap and wash Abu’s mouth out.</p>
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		<title>By: nolo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/17/honesty/#comment-629581</link>
		<dc:creator>nolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-629327&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;rapier @ 218 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think the committee should not ask Gonzo to swear an oath to tell the truth. Then announce that this will eliminate the need for either side to pretend he is telling the truth and that the hearing is for entertainment purposes only.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;p r i c e l e s s.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-629327"><em>rapier @ 218 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I think the committee should not ask Gonzo to swear an oath to tell the truth. Then announce that this will eliminate the need for either side to pretend he is telling the truth and that the hearing is for entertainment purposes only.</p>
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<p>p r i c e l e s s.</p>
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		<title>By: rapier</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/17/honesty/#comment-629327</link>
		<dc:creator>rapier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think the committee should not ask Gonzo to swear an oath to tell the truth. Then announce that this will eliminate the need for either side to pretend he is telling the truth and that the hearing is for entertainment purposes only.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the committee should not ask Gonzo to swear an oath to tell the truth. Then announce that this will eliminate the need for either side to pretend he is telling the truth and that the hearing is for entertainment purposes only.</p>
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		<title>By: fahrender</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/17/honesty/#comment-629279</link>
		<dc:creator>fahrender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-628879&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;radiofreewill @&lt;br /&gt;
                206              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Kathleen at 195&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s just my opinion on Sealed vs. Sealed, but it’s based on some reasoning:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;- Sealed vs. Sealed was filed by the Plame Grand Jury in May ‘06&lt;br /&gt;
- Fitzgerald advised Luskin that Rove wasn’t going to be indicted in June ‘06&lt;br /&gt;
- The Libby indictment contains, imvho, two charges (the Cooper conversation) that belong to Rove&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ergo -&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;- Fitz had obtained an indictment of Rove&lt;br /&gt;
- Gonzo pocketed it and pushed the Rove charges onto Libby&lt;br /&gt;
- Fitz vs. Gonzo (unlawful political influence)&lt;br /&gt;
- Warrants issued to ‘watch’ Rove and Gonzo during the USA firings&lt;br /&gt;
- Walton agrees - unlawful political influence - rules for Fitz&lt;br /&gt;
- Gonzo resigns&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rove is next.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But, again, I’m only making a mildly informed WAG here.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i’ll stick with my oft-posted:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gonzales.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cheneycakes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fuckwad.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rove will skate …..&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-628879"><em>radiofreewill @<br />
                206              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Kathleen at 195</p>
<p>It’s just my opinion on Sealed vs. Sealed, but it’s based on some reasoning:</p>
<p>- Sealed vs. Sealed was filed by the Plame Grand Jury in May ‘06<br />
- Fitzgerald advised Luskin that Rove wasn’t going to be indicted in June ‘06<br />
- The Libby indictment contains, imvho, two charges (the Cooper conversation) that belong to Rove</p>
<p>Ergo -</p>
<p>- Fitz had obtained an indictment of Rove<br />
- Gonzo pocketed it and pushed the Rove charges onto Libby<br />
- Fitz vs. Gonzo (unlawful political influence)<br />
- Warrants issued to ‘watch’ Rove and Gonzo during the USA firings<br />
- Walton agrees &#8211; unlawful political influence &#8211; rules for Fitz<br />
- Gonzo resigns</p>
<p>Rove is next.</p>
<p>But, again, I’m only making a mildly informed WAG here.</p>
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<p>i’ll stick with my oft-posted:</p>
<p>Gonzales.</p>
<p>Cheneycakes.</p>
<p>Fuckwad.</p>
<p>Rove will skate …..</p>
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		<title>By: chuteh</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/17/honesty/#comment-629156</link>
		<dc:creator>chuteh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Now we have the INTERNET.&lt;br /&gt;
 Please, young and energetic investigators, use it as your primary via to disseminate.&lt;br /&gt;
Collect raw data and suggestions and theories that explain your observations.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Perhaps the MSM will be forced to at least mention some of it to protect the myth of “public interest” they operate under. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The vital data surrounding “Iran-Contra” affair was put intominor and scattered public records by many skilled and courageous persons who either were participants or careful investigators. The data was never broadly disseminated via MSM because attempts to do so were deliberately stifled. Legislators were under no pressure to act beyond ineffective feints.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now we have the INTERNET.<br />
 Please, young and energetic investigators, use it as your primary via to disseminate.<br />
Collect raw data and suggestions and theories that explain your observations.</p>
<p>Perhaps the MSM will be forced to at least mention some of it to protect the myth of “public interest” they operate under. </p>
<p>The vital data surrounding “Iran-Contra” affair was put intominor and scattered public records by many skilled and courageous persons who either were participants or careful investigators. The data was never broadly disseminated via MSM because attempts to do so were deliberately stifled. Legislators were under no pressure to act beyond ineffective feints.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandra in Dallas</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/17/honesty/#comment-629111</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandra in Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“To my knowledge” is the phrase your attorney puts in front of all your statements when you answer a set of interrogatories from the opposing counsel in a lawsuit.  That way, if you make a simple mistake, it can’t be used to “hang you” in front of  a journey.  In this case, its obviously being used differently.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“To my knowledge” is the phrase your attorney puts in front of all your statements when you answer a set of interrogatories from the opposing counsel in a lawsuit.  That way, if you make a simple mistake, it can’t be used to “hang you” in front of  a journey.  In this case, its obviously being used differently.</p>
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		<title>By: hang a left</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/17/honesty/#comment-629068</link>
		<dc:creator>hang a left</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-628786&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Badwater @&lt;br /&gt;
                179              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-628783&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;portia.vz @ 176 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;If AGAG resigns or is forced out, who will Bush appoint that will make it through the approval process?
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jeb’s not busy.  Jeb for AG!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is Jeb an attorney?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-628786"><em>Badwater @<br />
                179              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-628783"><em>portia.vz @ 176 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>If AGAG resigns or is forced out, who will Bush appoint that will make it through the approval process?
</p>
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<p>Jeb’s not busy.  Jeb for AG!</p>
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<p>Is Jeb an attorney?</p>
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		<title>By: nolo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/17/honesty/#comment-629065</link>
		<dc:creator>nolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-629042&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;hang a left @ 211 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-628711&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;radiofreewill @&lt;br /&gt;
                111              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;One of the KEY things that DoJ has not released documents on is:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Was Patrick Fitzgerald ever on the list?” and, if so, “Who took him off?”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Because, if Fitz was on the list AND ‘Sealed vs. Sealed’ is Fitz vs. Gonzo over ‘unlawful political influence’ on the Rove indictment - that’s an air-tight, bi-partisan case for Impeachment right there. . .&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Be still my heart&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;actually kyle sampson TESTIFIED on&lt;br /&gt;
march 29, 2007, that he suggested adding&lt;br /&gt;
mr. fitz to the list — but it was ultimately&lt;br /&gt;
shot down as a bad idea. . .  because the&lt;br /&gt;
c.i.a. leak investigation was still in high gear.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;just fyi.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-629042"><em>hang a left @ 211 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-628711"><em>radiofreewill @<br />
                111              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>One of the KEY things that DoJ has not released documents on is:</p>
<p>“Was Patrick Fitzgerald ever on the list?” and, if so, “Who took him off?”</p>
<p>Because, if Fitz was on the list AND ‘Sealed vs. Sealed’ is Fitz vs. Gonzo over ‘unlawful political influence’ on the Rove indictment &#8211; that’s an air-tight, bi-partisan case for Impeachment right there. . .</p>
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<p>Be still my heart</p>
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<p>actually kyle sampson TESTIFIED on<br />
march 29, 2007, that he suggested adding<br />
mr. fitz to the list — but it was ultimately<br />
shot down as a bad idea. . .  because the<br />
c.i.a. leak investigation was still in high gear.</p>
<p>just fyi.</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/17/honesty/#comment-629059</link>
		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mr. Gonzales is studying for the proverbial urine test.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Gonzales is studying for the proverbial urine test.</p>
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