Zed? Yaaa

Hi, in case this hasn’t been mentioned, there’s a dump Wolfowitz petition.

Dick Cheney on (shot a guy in the) Face the Nation — That ought to make for some good sound bites.

Good Morning Christy and Firedogs,

what, if any, is the significance of Cheney using something other than Timmeh or Faux ???

Well, it least it didn’t rate a “read ‘em and weep”.

It’s going to be interesting to see what the various panel discussions say regarding the vanishing e-mails, not to mention KKKarl deleting his habitually.

Zinni should be interesting and watching the wind with Specter will at least prove worth noting. How is he gonna respond to the latest on the USAt? He will still play Mr. Compromise but it will be interesting to see if he signals any greater coolness to the WH. I am sure it will be disappointing but how dissapointing?

I cannot bring myself to listen to Cheney lie. At least he is on Schieffer’s program — he occasionally calls people on their lies. Then again, wouldn’t it have been lovely to have Cheney on Russert? Them not talking about how Cheney sees Timmeh as a patsy?

Wonder how Schieffer thinks about Cheney’s presence on his show in that light? Bob’s not a fool, unlike many DC journalists.

Has Cheney done any interviews since Libby? There is a lot to solicit lies about since the last time he left his Vader-habitrail.

cbl @ 4

Good Morning Christy and Firedogs,

what, if any, is the significance of Cheney using something other than Timmeh or Faux ???

I guess it’s to prove that Timmeh isn’t his puppet, after all.

twolf1 @
3

Dick Cheney on (shot a guy in the) Face the Nation — That ought to make for some good sound bites.

Would bet there are *check your weapons at the door* ALL over that studio. ;)

Any noticeable missing guests like last week? FTN & MTP seems like pretty thin gruel.

EPU’d

can’t. . .stop. . .laughing . . .

Abu takes the stage at WaPo Open Mike

I have nevertheless asked the Justice Department’s Office of Professional Responsibility to further investigate this matter. Working with the department’s Office of Inspector General, these nonpartisan professionals will complete their own independent investigation so that Congress and the American people can be 100 percent assured of what I believe and what the investigation thus far has shown: that nothing improper
occurred.

link

that’s right, he said non partisan . – can you say turgid ? . . .I knew ya could – apparently his stance on torture extends to composition and grammar

Morning, Christy and Pups. We’ve had some unusual bird sightings here lately. A huge flock of cedar waxwings that come and go. A whole range of woodpeckers–downy, hairy, red belly, feasting on suet. The goldfinches have been truly gold for some time now. Thought it was spring on that one 81-degree day we had last month.

And speaking of birds of a feather (nice segue, eh?), seeing MN’s Walter Mondale on the lineup this morning reminds me that the elder statesmen (Mondale, Carter, Albright, etc.) are uniquely positioned to rail against Bushiness. Since it seems there’s an element of butt-protection amongst incumbents, the former folks can speak without restrictions, keep feet to the fire, ask the hard questions, over and over and over again.

Bill Moyers is one of the most eloquent spokesmen for progressive values. His show is returning to the air later this month. But given the, ummmm, shall we say, reticent nature of the MSM, some of these people are being stifled in terms of getting their message “out there.” Any way we can help (besides blogging our butts off, aka BOBO)?

Okay. Obviously I need more coffee. Down from your soapbox, girl.

cbl @ 10: This whole administration is risible. But Gonzo pretending such a letter will influence anyone is truly silly. Its a talking point for loudmouth radio and the press sec, and it is DOA. After Friday’s document dump it is truly like the kid caught with a hand in the cookie jar. “No I didn’t” just isn’t persuasive.

Love the color in that photo. The sparrow’s palette radiates in it like its song.

Has anyone seen any polling data on Carter? Repugs always call him a disgrace and the worst president evah (even more so now that they need to keep Bush in the #2 slot rather than the all-time champeen). However, I get the feeling that fair amount of the public respects Carter. Could be wrong but I don’t think it is just a minority on the far left. His Habitat work and frequent diplomatic successes in the past really rehabilitated him. And in comparison to Dubya, for those who did see him as a terrible president, they have to be rethinking that.

Mornin’, Christy & all -

Nice to find the Lake is flowing freely this a.m. Hope all the wonderful people behind the scenes have managed to solve whatever the problems were; seems someone said something about upgrades? & if so, assume you are expecting another heavy traffic day on Tuesday. *g* Should be interesting to see just how long the hearing will run. Let’s hope gonzo is *at least* as inept as we think him to be.

cbl -

Just could *not* force myself to read his opinion at the compost but they riffed off it for the first call-in segment on the Wash Journal today. (((Here’s a big hug))) for handling the WCP site to meet our withdrawal needs.

PS -

In case anyone else hasn’t heard, MSNBC is doing a special at 8.00 p.m. tonite called “journeys with George”…..supposedly a *funny* following of shrub on the campaign trail; will wait to see if my stomach feels strong enough to check it out.

“journeys with George”

was a documentary made by Pelosi’s daughter and shown on HBO

upon viewing, my then 15 year old said “I sat next to that guy in detention last week!”

cbl -

Did see the name Pelosi attached and wondered if any relation. (That should set the wingers into a frenzy.) So it has hit the small screen before; if you saw it w/your teen, what was *your* reaction?

Let’s see. Dick Cheney is likely to say that if you don’t agree with him, “then you are a terrorist supporting commie.”

And this is different from his being a terrorist supporting totalitarian…How?

At least Stalin could win wars.

The Abu Gonzo editorial on WaPo is pathetic. I read through 18 pages of comments and not one was in support of this guy.

Every line in it is misleading. It’s hard to imagine what he’s going to say on Tuesday. I can’t imagine anyone would let him get away with this stuff.

This is my favorite part…

I have instructed all Justice Department officials to make themselves available for on-the-record interviews with lawmakers and hearings before Congress, and I have ordered the release of thousands of pages of internal documents.

All of these documents and public testimony indicate that the Justice Department did not seek the removal of any U.S. attorney to interfere with or improperly influence any case or investigation.

In other words, none of the documents that Gonzo has released are incriminating because, he looked through them to make sure they weren’t. The ones that were incriminating were deleted or lost or redacted or he’s just not giving them up.

NYT has a very interesting article by Lydia Polgreen on the complexities of Dafur, Chad, Sudan, and the whole combustible mix. I do not know much about this subject, but it’s the first article I’ve read that does not try to portray the problem in black/white, good guy/bad guy terms.

Hey everybody! Truly gorgeous weather here, we went for a 7 km walk to look for signs of spring.

Yes I’m perfectly safe from the demonstrations which are quite far from my current location, and no I won’t comment on them except to say that not everything is as it appears.

Patients are all stable over the weekend and we expect to move a couple from the ICU to the ward tomorrow in preparation for a new week of surgery. Certainly there are a lot of sick kids waiting their turn. Need a bigger ICU—again.

Cheney will also talk about how the Democrats are stripping the armor from our troops and starving them because of all the budget issues.

Perle is one of the scariest people on the planet.

journeys with George

oh yeah, it’s Madame Speaker’s daughter – believe she has recently released a documentary along the lines of Jesus Camp

Friends of God

as to my reaction to Journeys With George – I was out the day SCOTUS appointed him by telling my family “these f**kers will make the Reaganites look Amish !”

Good Morning everyone.
I’m looking forward to the Cheney interview. It seems that even the mainstream media has realized that the man lies shamelessly. I’m hoping for some fireworks.

If you can get past the fact that the article written by Peggy Noonan (yes, THAT Peggy Noonan) appears in the WSJ (second only to FOX in being fair and balanced), it’s an interesting read about the weird spate of, ummmm, weirdness amongst presidential candidates this cycle.

Yes I’m perfectly safe from the demonstrations which are quite far from my current location, and no I won’t comment on them except to say that not everything is as it appears.

Glad to know you’re okay!

Can’t say I’m surprised that things aren’t what they seem; it’s been my default mode for anything about Russia for years now. I heard the chess-player, Kasparov, was one of the “detainees.”

Marian Wright Edelman of the Children’s Defense Fund, who will likely be talking about their Elect Susie campaign

That does dound interesting. Bookmarked for later, as I need to get Daughter in Ohio to church to sing with the choir.

She’s 11, by the way, and I recently heard her opining that our Constitution apparently only applies to rich white men. I *swear* we don’t actually used those words when we talk about politics in our house.

Although I imagine she might hear that from some of her classmates. This came up in the context of complaining about an unfair group punishment at school.

solai @ 24

Good Morning everyone.
I’m looking forward to the Cheney interview. It seems that even the mainstream media has realized that the man lies shamelessly. I’m hoping for some fireworks.

I was just thinking that, but I’m not counting on it. I can’t remember the last time this guy got called on a lie, or asked a hard question.

solai @ 24

Good Morning everyone.
I’m looking forward to the Cheney interview. It seems that even the mainstream media has realized that the man lies shamelessly. I’m hoping for some fireworks.

Dream on. Shooter says what he wants & is unmoved by incoming words.

Georgesimian @ 28

solai @ 24

Good Morning everyone.
I’m looking forward to the Cheney interview. It seems that even the mainstream media has realized that the man lies shamelessly. I’m hoping for some fireworks.

I was just thinking that, but I’m not counting on it. I can’t remember the last time this guy got called on a lie, or asked a hard question.

I bet most of those journos know that if they try it, they’ll wake up next to a horse’s head.

Or they know Cheney has the pictures.

If you are interested, yesterday (and again this morning) a Euro would buy $1.3526 . That is as high as I have ever seen the ratio. What is going on that would reflect such a disadvantageous rate of exchange?

Thanks Christy for all the *head candy* FDL gives, best thing since sliced bread, ever. All the best…..

Hmmm…Chris Wallace is asking Graham some tough questions. Could it be he’s trying to prove he’s a real journalist? I’ve noticed some change in his style lately.

Just throwing out a few more times for people. I always have to look up which show I want to watch. All times EST:

9:00AM
CBS Sunday Morning
FOX Sunday with Chris Wallace
NBC Meet the Press

10:30AM
NBC This Week
CBS Face the Nation
Comedy Central Office Space

Would you play a hand of 3-card Monty with Gonzo? I didn’t think so…

ccmask -
sure I would ! he’d screw up a wet dream

Dammit!

Please, get everyone you know reading places like FDL and ignoring Conglomerate Media. Read this drivel from the AP with it’s subversive slams on Pelosi.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..si100_days

Talks about her poll numbers going down. Wonder if it has anything to do with the constant made-up, literally, attacks on her that the media dutifully repeat over and over again.

“There have been controversies. A recent trip to Syria drew stinging criticism from the White House and consternation among some moderate Democrats, who viewed it as a distraction. In February, Republicans turned a minor story over the size of the government plane Pelosi takes to California into a full-blown flap when she didn’t move quickly to respond.”

No mention of the plane thing being absolutely bogus. We must ensure place like FDL grow in strength and influence. It’s absolutely crucial for the survival of our Constitution. Donate whenever you can!

Started to read the Gonzales op-ed this morning, and my English teacher brain kicked in. How many things are wrong with this first sentence alone? “My decision some months ago to privately seek the resignations of a small number of U.S. attorneys has erupted into a public firestorm.”
“My decision”–Was it? First we heard it was Harriet Myers’ idea, but it seems to have been Rove’s.
“Some months ago” Was it months, a year, two years…leaving it as vague as possible.
“to privately seek”–the telling split infinitive: governmental actions are not “private.” Any action you take as Attorney General is official, subect to public scrutiny, not your private business.
“resignation”–if it’s sought, is it a resignation, really?
“ of a small number” How did you know how many there would be before the supposed performance evaluation?

SonOfLiberty @ 5

Well, it least it didn’t rate a “read ‘em and weep”.

I’m missing Webb. Permission to weep? At least it should be up on his website shortly.

Firedogs, I am a day behind everyone -

has everyone seen this Legal Times interview with Daniel Metcalfe – recently retired DOJ career professional

Legal Times

PSA – Tornado WARNINGS – Area North of Tampa, FL – also area east of Columbia, SC.

LJ/Aquaria @ 30

(snip)
Or they know Cheney has the pictures.

Morning folks, our tiny back your is full (50? 60?) sparrows and juncos. Mrs. Cardinal is watching from the apple tree and the squirrels are trying to hog the suet feeders. I don’t know if they eat the suet or just pick out the seed but I don’t mind ‘em — squirrels gotta eat too.

WRT the ‘has the pictures’, you know, I always wondered about Gannon/Guckert being on public display. His lolling around the press pool and even asking questions was far from subtle. I think it was intended to remind — or inform? — somebody specific that They had some blackmail. I wonder, did any powerful figure cave in unexpectedly around that thime? Of course, powerful people are not always in the public eye, so we may never know or it may be nothing. It just seems like the horse’s head.

wornvelvet @ 37

Started to read the Gonzales op-ed this morning, and my English teacher brain kicked in. How many things are wrong with this first sentence alone? “My decision some months ago to privately seek the resignations of a small number of U.S. attorneys has erupted into a public firestorm.”
“My decision”–Was it? First we heard it was Harriet Myers’ idea, but it seems to have been Rove’s.
“Some months ago” Was it months, a year, two years…leaving it as vague as possible.
“to privately seek”–the telling split infinitive: governmental actions are not “private.” Any action you take as Attorney General is official, subect to public scrutiny, not your private business.
“resignation”–if it’s sought, is it a resignation, really?
“ of a small number” How did you know how many there would be before the supposed performance evaluation?

It’s all legaleze. A smokescreen, designed to avoid prosecution.

IRT Wallace. I take it back. He did ask some tough questions, but it was all Graham with Levin given very little speaking time.

Let’s see. Dick Cheney is likely to say that if you don’t agree with him, “then you are a terrorist supporting commie.”

you know, I came up with something I would love Pelosi to consider before her next response to these draft dodging morons destroying our armed forces;

when the president says he’s not going to sign the bill because that would handcuff the generals Pelosi should consider something like so;

“we don’t know how this president has had a change of heart, he ignored the generals when they told him NOT to invade Iraq and to continue fighting terrorism (which was not Iraq), he ignored the generals when he gave our armed forces too few men with too little equipment, he ignored the generals when he turned over vital military services to profit mongers and war profiteers”

that would be plenty and for the sound bite that would do the trick but there’s more, oh so much more;

“he ignored the generals when he stretched our armed forces too thin, he ignored the generals when they told him it’s time to draw down.

he ignored the generals when they told him this “surge” was a bad idea

he ignored the generals when they told him NOT to deploy troops that are neither trained nor prepared

so now that the president ignored the generals who gave him sage military advice,

now that he shopped around until he found somebody that might agree with his failed and strategy he all of a sudden wants to listen to the generals?

excuse me, this president has forced his will down the throats of the generals for too long, his policy a clear failure, his “strategy” is a clear failure and it’s time for him to stop ignoring the will of the people

the president serves at the will of the people, they turned power over to those that promised to do what we have done with this bill and it is our sworn obligation, to which we happen to take seriously whether he wants us to or not, but it is our sworn obligation to present the bills that fund our troops and provide the guidance this president obviously needs.

the president can choose to fund the troops and our military, or if he chooses, he can rather decide to make a political statement and leave our troops without the resources they need.

if the president refuses to fund our troops we will present him with another bill to fund their expeditious return home…we miss them here, we need them here and we will be happy to fund their trip home

our armed forces have performed admirably, they completed their mission long ago when they deposed Saddam Hussein, they completed their mission when they found out what the president already knew, there were no weapons of mass destruction

they completed their mission a long time ago and if the president had been sincere, the states resources which he has exploited to the breaking point would have been returned to the states long ago.

now, the armed forces have completed their task, it seems the president wants to create new tasks each time the previous is completed.

that’s not going to happen, we are bringing our armed forces home where we can hopefully replenish and restore their ability back to the point where the president began it’s systematic programs which depleted these assets”

etc, etc, etc

wornvelvet @ 37

Started to read the Gonzales op-ed this morning, and my English teacher brain kicked in. How many things are wrong with this first sentence alone? “My decision some months ago to privately seek the resignations of a small number of U.S. attorneys has erupted into a public firestorm.”
“My decision”–Was it? First we heard it was Harriet Myers’ idea, but it seems to have been Rove’s.
“Some months ago” Was it months, a year, two years…leaving it as vague as possible.
“to privately seek”–the telling split infinitive: governmental actions are not “private.” Any action you take as Attorney General is official, subect to public scrutiny, not your private business.
“resignation”–if it’s sought, is it a resignation, really?
“ of a small number” How did you know how many there would be before the supposed performance evaluation?

It’s a textbook example of bad writing from Orwell’s Politics and the English Language, an effusion of words that are so vague, circuitous and poorly structured that he’s rendered it completely meaningless.

From what I can tell, it’s typical corporate-government speak.

just a drive-by, but i want to link to an excellent piece (with many links),”The Misplaced Focus on Gonzales“, by marty lederman at balkinization on abu’s wapo op-ed this morning:

the real action on the “merits” was not at DOJ, but in the White House, where the process was initiated by Karl Rove and where the final decision was made by the President. Thus, the current focus on the Attorney General is something of a distraction, at least insofar as Congress’s objective is to determine whether anything unlawful or unconstitutional was involved in the U.S. Attorney dismissals. Congress cannot determine whether the removals were made for improper reasons unless it discovers what Rove and Miers advised the President, and why they did so.

perris @ 44

Let’s see. Dick Cheney is likely to say that if you don’t agree with him, “then you are a terrorist supporting commie.”

you know, I came up with something I would love Pelosi to consider before her next response to these draft dodging morons destroying our armed forces;

when the president says he’s not going to sign the bill because that would handcuff the generals Pelosi should consider something like so;

“we don’t know how this president has had a change of heart, he ignored the generals when they told him NOT to invade Iraq and to continue fighting terrorism (which was not Iraq), he ignored the generals when he gave our armed forces too few men with too little equipment, he ignored the generals when he turned over vital military services to profit mongers and war profiteers”

that would be plenty and for the sound bite that would do the trick but there’s more, oh so much more;

“he ignored the generals when he stretched our armed forces too thin, he ignored the generals when they told him it’s time to draw down.

he ignored the generals when they told him this “surge” was a bad idea

he ignored the generals when they told him NOT to deploy troops that are neither trained nor prepared

so now that the president ignored the generals who gave him sage military advice,

now that he shopped around until he found somebody that might agree with his failed and strategy he all of a sudden wants to listen to the generals?

excuse me, this president has forced his will down the throats of the generals for too long, his policy a clear failure, his “strategy” is a clear failure and it’s time for him to stop ignoring the will of the people

the president serves at the will of the people, they turned power over to those that promised to do what we have done with this bill and it is our sworn obligation, to which we happen to take seriously whether he wants us to or not, but it is our sworn obligation to present the bills that fund our troops and provide the guidance this president obviously needs.

the president can choose to fund the troops and our military, or if he chooses, he can rather decide to make a political statement and leave our troops without the resources they need.

if the president refuses to fund our troops we will present him with another bill to fund their expeditious return home…we miss them here, we need them here and we will be happy to fund their trip home

our armed forces have performed admirably, they completed their mission long ago when they deposed Saddam Hussein, they completed their mission when they found out what the president already knew, there were no weapons of mass destruction

they completed their mission a long time ago and if the president had been sincere, the states resources which he has exploited to the breaking point would have been returned to the states long ago.

now, the armed forces have completed their task, it seems the president wants to create new tasks each time the previous is completed.

that’s not going to happen, we are bringing our armed forces home where we can hopefully replenish and restore their ability back to the point where the president began it’s systematic programs which depleted these assets”

etc, etc, etc

How about something like this…

Bush never listens to anyone. He didn’t listen to his Generals in Iraq, he didn’t listen to the CIA, he didn’t listen to the American people, and whenever I say anything, he calls me a terrorist.

I wonder what Bush’s parent’s think of him today….are they proud of him? Probably.

Here’s my question on Gonzales op-ed:

I have nevertheless asked the Justice Department’s Office of Professional Responsibility to further investigate this matter. Working with the department’s Office of Inspector General, these nonpartisan professionals will complete their own independent investigation

My bold. Have those offices already been infiltrated by loyal Bushies?

LJ/Aquaria @ 45 says:
It’s a textbook example of bad writing from Orwell’s Politics and the English Language, an effusion of words that are so vague, circuitous and poorly structured that he’s rendered it completely meaningless.

From what I can tell, it’s typical corporate-government speak.
–
Yes, but when you take just the subject and predicate:
“My decision…has erupted into a public firestorm.”
Firestorms don’t erupt, of course. (And what would a private firestorm be?)
But the idea that his decision has erupted into something that is burning him alive…I think there’s a bit of truth poking through there!

Postcard from our lake…

We watched Infernal Affairs last night. The model for Scorsese’s Departed. Worthy watching. One little director’s touch that caught my eye, a screen note citing Buddha that those who are in Constant Hell never die. [my poor paraphrase, I’ll rewatch to get it]

Team BushCo are the purveyers of Constant Hell. They’ve certainly selected the people of Iraq for that…and the military and families who serve while BushCo urges pampered shallow thinking Americans to shop, shop, shop.

Interesting that Dubai’s becoming the new ex-pat home for corps and persons dodging tax payments. The water runs warm, the temps are 150. Those who go there choose Constant Hell. The metaphors write themselves.

And one last thought. You don’t think cynical ol Les Moonves fired Imus in part to keep the attention of Katie Couric’s blog-plagiarism, now do you?

Too beautiful a day for such cynical thoughts. Must go watch juncoes do housekeeping on our deck….keep the faith, pups. Vigilant voices will prevail.

Scheuer on CSpan now

Georgesimian @ 47

How about something like this…

Bush never listens to anyone. He didn’t listen to his Generals in Iraq, he didn’t listen to the CIA, he didn’t listen to the American people, and whenever I say anything, he calls me a terrorist.

or that then

cbl @ 52

Scheuer on CSpan now

Of somehat mottled reputation. Among other things, does not speak Arabic. Imagine head of U.S. CIA OBL team doesn’t speak Arabic. How lame is that.

WashingtonPost
Nothing Improper
By Alberto R. Gonzales
Sunday, April 15, 2007; B07

My decision some months ago to privately seek the resignations of a small number of U.S. attorneys has erupted into a public firestorm. First and foremost, I appreciate the public service of these fine lawyers and dedicated professionals, each of whom served his or her full four-year term as U.S. attorney. I apologize to them, their families and the thousands of dedicated professionals at the Justice Department for my role in allowing this matter to spin into an undignified Washington spectacle…

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Nothing Improper

Morning all — Mr. ReddHedd let me sleep in a bit. Coffee is good, but a little extra sleep is even better.

eCAHNomics @
49

Here’s my question on Gonzales op-ed:

I have nevertheless asked the Justice Department’s Office of Professional Responsibility to further investigate this matter. Working with the department’s Office of Inspector General, these nonpartisan professionals will complete their own independent investigation

My bold. Have those offices already been infiltrated by loyal Bushies?

Translation: we have steered this inquiry into the bureaucratic blackhole where it will disappear.

ccmask @ 48

I wonder what Bush’s parent’s think of him today….are they proud of him? Probably.

oh I am sure he remains the embarrasment he has been all his life

daddy bush tried to reclaim some kind of respectability with the baker group…to which the president immediatly did the opposite

I am telling you, he cries on clintons shoulder (his new bestest friend if you didn’t know it), they talk about baby bush over cognac and cigars at the club

EPU’d and perhaps OT, but we’re only a few days past Passover…
—————
Here’s a free-form, symbolic translation of the Ten Plagues that the Lord visited upon Pharaoh and the Egyptians — updated and modernized to characterize what we, in the name of the American Way, have visited upon the Children of Iraq. The original transliterated Hebrew is followed by a modern equivalent. Poetic license is used; poetic justice is coming.

Those of you who are familiar with the traditional melodies of the Passover Seder will perhaps find some rough correspondence with the rhythms, if not the literal translations, of the Lord’s plagues as recorded in the Torah and in the Haggadah.

One of the most memorable parts of the Jewish Seder has participants dolefully chant the names of each of the plagues while dipping a finger into their cup of wine and placing a drop of it onto their plates… and the last plague is sung with a grim finality. Participants are instructed to remember these plagues with sorrow because even oppressors deserve consideration for their suffering.

Imagine our Vice President and his Board of Directors sitting around the traditional ceremonial holiday Halliburton boardroom table, chanting the plagues, smilingly spilling drops of blood from their golden goblets…

O Children of America, hear the lamentations of your victims.
—————
1) Dohm — Blood — In our streets

2) Tze’far’day’ah — Occupation — Our country is filled with foreigners with guns! Why are they saying “Get off of OUR oil!”?

3) Kinim — Keening — The piteous sound of our parents, widows, widowers, children and orphans

4) Arov — Karl-Rove — Like a wild beast, he toys with us like pawns. Our lives mean nothing to him

5) Dever — Never — …will we forget the injustices done to us in the name of “freedom’s on the march!”

6) Sh’chin — Murder — They kill us, we kill each other… more blood in the streets

7) Barad — ElBaradei — Hail the peacemaker, whose wise counsel was cruelly rejected by the conquering Pharaoh

8) Arbeh — Larvae — We, the cradle of Western civilization, have lost our wings and been beaten into the earth; but we’ll escape this cocoon of death and fly again, one day

9) Choshech — Darkness — We have neither electricity, nor fresh water, nor sewage service

10) Makkat B’chorot. — Blackwater and Halliburton. — They say we wear no uniforms. Why do so many of our killers wear no US insignia?
—————

Who will say that in four thousand years, Mesopotamians will not still be commemorating our inhumanity down their generations, with words something like these?

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(Suggestions and improvements welcome; copy at will, with credit – tnx)

And I’m sure it pisses the 10 gallon brain off that his Dad & Bill are such good friends.

Something about this whole Bush Admin using their campaign email accounts instead of their WH email accounts reminded me of when Al Gore used his residence phone for campaign finance. I’m not the first one to be reminded of this, but I remembered that Bush kept bringing it up in one of the debates with Gore, so I Googled it.

Here’s Bush…

I think the thing that discouraged me about the vice president was uttering those famous words, “No controlling legal authority.” I felt like there needed to be a better sense of responsibility of what was going on in the White House. I believe that — I believe they’ve moved that sign, “The buck stops here” from the Oval Office desk to “The buck stops here” on the Lincoln bedroom. It’s not good for the country and it’s not right. We need to have a new look about how we conduct ourselves in office. There’s a huge trust. I see it all the time when people come up to me and say, I don’t want you to let me down again. And we can do better than the past administration has done. It’s time for a fresh start. It’s time for a new look. It’s time for a fresh start after a season of cynicism.

Wow, what a load of crap, especially looking back at it now. But, trying to stay focused here, the behavior he is criticising, is now not just an isolated incident, but it was business as usual in the Bush WH. Is he disappointed now? Bush calling someone cynical? Yuck.

I do have to say that pretty much all the other stuff he said he was going to do, he did. His cutting taxes for the richest, for example, is right there in the debate. Gore calls it for what it is, and Bush doesn’t disagree.

ccmask @ 60

And I’m sure it pisses the 10 gallon brain off that his Dad & Bill are such good friends.

Pisses me off that 41 & 42 are such good friends.

Morning kids. Boy I sure wish I could stay right here this morning. Instead I’m off to my 3rd and final day of Camp Wellstone training. I’d forgotten how hard it is, physically, to be a student, sitting for hours at a stretch! I’m learning lots of new and interesting stuff- and also how truely amature our last campaign was. But now I know where the mistakes were and have some ideas how to fix them, LOOK OUT! I live in a pretty red congressional district, and we may not actuall win next time out the gate , but one thing I do know- We are going to ROCK Tom Tancredos’ world!
In the meantime, it’s back to the saltmines. Save all the juicy tidbits for me, will ya kids?
ps. if anybody’s interested, I would say that Camp Wellstone is definitely worth the fee and the time.

eCAHNomics -

I am not surprised to hear Scheuer does not speak Arabic

fyi – I have had 2 brushes with death (or at least mortal danger) due to ignorance of all things Arab by our security/intel apparatus personnel stationed in the Middle East

ccmask @ 60

And I’m sure it pisses the 10 gallon brain off that his Dad & Bill are such good friends.

hoo boy that’s got to drive him nutz

I guess he’s the dad Bill never had or something to that effect. I just hope we never see or hear from Jeb! again.

conniptionfit at 62 — I hope you’ll share lots of what you learned when you get done with the training. Sounds fascinating.

ccmask @ 66

I guess he’s the dad Bill never had or something to that effect. I just hope we never see or hear from Jeb! again.

now that weve reclaimed honest voting machines with paper records, (we hope), jeb’s chances of presidency rest on one thing and one thing only;

martial law and the claim of devine appointment by brother bush

don’t laugh or snicker, I guarantee they are working on this

Here is the lineup for Ian Masters’s program from 11:00 to 1:00 PDT on KPFK in LA.

cbl @ 64

eCAHNomics -

I am not surprised to hear Scheuer does not speak Arabic

fyi – I have had 2 brushes with death (or at least mortal danger) due to ignorance of all things Arab by our security/intel apparatus personnel stationed in the Middle East

Best book I ever read on spooks is titles The Second Oldest Profession. It’s mostly a history of MI6 & CIA, but the one important conceptual point is that any spying activity is fatally flawed owing to its inherent secrecy. No competition; no meaningful oversight. So waddaya expect? Incompetence, mistakes, and worse. And there a great moral hazard–all their mistakes get rewarded with higher budgets. Can them all.

PSA – tornado watch – central and south FLA until 5PM this evening.

Tornado warnings currently in S.C.

Remember the GWB quote that when he and his father get together they talk about lots of things….”baseball,(some other things) and girls”
What the hell does that mean??? I don’t think my father and my adult brother ever got together and discussed girls. And I know that my husband doesn’t talk girls with his sons (though they are not quite adults, yet)

S.O.S.

bwaahaahaaa – look what I was preparing to link when I saw your comment -

Pathogen — A pathogen or infectious agent is a biological agent that causes disease or illness to its host

only b/c I found yet another infected organ -

Department of Agriculture – (wha ? you’re surprised ???)

Corrente Wire

Christy Hardin Smith @ 67

conniptionfit at 62 — I hope you’ll share lots of what you learned when you get done with the training. Sounds fascinating.

After I regain some feeling in my ass!

And in the 2000 debate, Bush doesn’t mention 9/11 once!

Georgesimian @ 75

And in the 2000 debate, Bush doesn’t mention 9/11 once!

He was keeping it a secret!

perris @ 68

ccmask @ 66

I guess he’s the dad Bill never had or something to that effect. I just hope we never see or hear from Jeb! again.

now that weve reclaimed honest voting machines with paper records, (we hope), jeb’s chances of presidency rest on one thing and one thing only;

martial law and the claim of devine appointment by brother bush

don’t laugh or snicker, I guarantee they are working on this

I think that their first order of business is shutting down sites like this. And it keeps me awake at night.

If Arlen Specter makes one more stupid comment about Lam’s so-called lack of experience (in spite of her impressive experience & career), I think he should recuse himself from the judiciary committee for being a not-disinterested party. It seems Arlen is joining in the swiftboating of US Attorneys.

He must have crapped when the first tower fell.

perris @ 44

… that’s not going to happen, we are bringing our armed forces home where we can hopefully replenish and restore their ability back to the point where the president began its systematic programs which depleted these assets”

etc, etc, etc

Masterful, Perris — Thank you. So well said. If only Speaker Pelosi would say half of what you wrote… (You listening, Speaker Pelosi??)

Oh, no, that’s right. He went into that Florida classroom and sat and read a book about goats.

Christy Hardin Smith @ 67

conniptionfit at 62 — I hope you’ll share lots of what you learned when you get done with the training. Sounds fascinating.

IMO, Camp Wellstone is a must for progressives. It’s what we’re missing via the DNC and Minnesota’s peculiar Dem org, the DFL. Three tracks. One for candidates. One for campaign workers. One for activists. Obviously some cross-over, but they take that into account. If there’s one near you, sign up, but do it early, because they fill right away. And that will ratchet up as we get closer to 2008. Here’s the link.

Micahel Scheur, on C-Span, just called the CIA’s Rendition Program “the major success story in defeating Al-Q”

I didn’t realize he is a neo-nut – guess I do now.

jay-t

he was point man for extraordinary rendition under Clinton

P.S. Rumor has it that a MN neocon, Joe Repya (who is running for MN GOP chair) is touting a potential “Camp Reagan” as a Republic training base. Gah!!

jayt @ 83

Micahel Scheur, on C-Span, just called the CIA’s Rendition Program “the major success story in defeating Al-Q”

I didn’t realize he is a neo-nut – guess I do now.

Yep. In one of his books he rails strongly against any kind of law enforcement attitude toward AQ, and advances a concept akin to Total Warfare to fight AQ. The man’s a real nutcase.

jayt @ 83

Micahel Scheur, on C-Span, just called the CIA’s Rendition Program “the major success story in defeating Al-Q”

I didn’t realize he is a neo-nut – guess I do now.

I didn’t know that Al-Q had been defeated. When did that happen?

Wigwam @ 87

jayt @ 83

Micahel Scheur, on C-Span, just called the CIA’s Rendition Program “the major success story in defeating Al-Q”

I didn’t realize he is a neo-nut – guess I do now.

I didn’t know that Al-Q had been defeated. When did that happen?

bingo

the al qaeda movement has grown exponentially since the rendition program

correction;

the al qaeda movement has grown exponetially BECAUSE of the rendition program and similar depraved policies that inflame, embolden and help them recruit

another moron to be sure

Wigwam @ 87

… I didn’t know that Al-Q had been defeated. When did that happen?

When we captured Osama Bin Laden, of course. DO try to keep up, you ninny. /snark :)

cbl @ 73

S.O.S.

bwaahaahaaa – look what I was preparing to link when I saw your comment -

Pathogen — A pathogen or infectious agent is a biological agent that causes disease or illness to its host

only b/c I found yet another infected organ -

Department of Agriculture – (wha ? you’re surprised ???)

Corrente Wire

Thanks for that connection.

I read that the LA Times is reporting former WH Counsel Gonzales wrote a lengthy memo to staff including Rove on the handling of email concerning government business which is transmitted via private accounts. It said forward it to WH email accounts and/or print a record for archiving.

Now I am certain Rove would have trouble discerning the difference between government business and private business (he lives his work—he’s that kind of guy as I am sure Darby would attest).

But it would be fun to ask Gonzales about whether he monitored conformance to his policies during his tenure in the WH, and specifically if he knew if Rove complied, and what did he do to insure his memo was honored.

I love when Chris Rock said he was less afraid of AlQuida than he is of ElCracker.

Anyone watching MtP.? Zinni is telling Timmy that neither Chimpy or the Dem’s position on withdrawal is “tenable” (Timmy’s words.) Zinni says U.S. will be in Iraq 5-7 years.

S.O.S. from MA @ 89

Wigwam @ 87

… I didn’t know that Al-Q had been defeated. When did that happen?

When we captured Osama Bin Laden, of course. DO try to keep up, you ninny. /snark :)

Exactly. He was captured by a squad lead by the Bush twins along with their cousin Pierce.

Christy: Did you getr them bulbs in the ground yet? I did mine yesterday and threw a bunch of wildflower seeds too. I can’t wait unti I see some action out there. Two of my orchids bloomed yesterday–what a treat!

Good morning, all! Last day of spring break… now if I could just get rid of this cold that’s been plaguing me…

Coffee, anyone? (it’s good for your brain)

gone for a bit…working sunday’s half a day for a coupla months

see all L8ter

barbara @ 81

Christy Hardin Smith @ 67

conniptionfit at 62 — I hope you’ll share lots of what you learned when you get done with the training. Sounds fascinating.

IMO, Camp Wellstone is a must for progressives. It’s what we’re missing via the DNC and Minnesota’s peculiar Dem org, the DFL. Three tracks. One for candidates. One for campaign workers. One for activists. Obviously some cross-over, but they take that into account. If there’s one near you, sign up, but do it early, because they fill right away. And that will ratchet up as we get closer to 2008. Here’s the link.

thanks! i just checked and there is one coming to manchester, NH in june – that’s pretty close for eastern MA folks.

Badwater @ 94

… captured by a squad led by the Bush twins along with their cousin Pierce.

BwaaHaaHAAA! Yayy! ROTFLOL & Tnx

Oh crikey! Zinni is advocating a 6-year presidency so that the president can rise above politics and become an elder statesmen and stick to governing rather than reelection.
No, General, No!

Georgesimian @
61

Something about this whole Bush Admin using their campaign email accounts instead of their WH email accounts reminded me of when Al Gore used his residence phone for campaign finance. I’m not the first one to be reminded of this, but I remembered that Bush kept bringing it up in one of the debates with Gore, so I Googled it.

Here’s Bush…

I think the thing that discouraged me about the vice president was uttering those famous words, “No controlling legal authority.” I felt like there needed to be a better sense of responsibility of what was going on in the White House. I believe that — I believe they’ve moved that sign, “The buck stops here” from the Oval Office desk to “The buck stops here” on the Lincoln bedroom. It’s not good for the country and it’s not right. We need to have a new look about how we conduct ourselves in office. There’s a huge trust. I see it all the time when people come up to me and say, I don’t want you to let me down again. And we can do better than the past administration has done. It’s time for a fresh start. It’s time for a new look. It’s time for a fresh start after a season of cynicism.

Wow, what a load of crap, especially looking back at it now. But, trying to stay focused here, the behavior he is criticising, is now not just an isolated incident, but it was business as usual in the Bush WH. Is he disappointed now? Bush calling someone cynical? Yuck.

I do have to say that pretty much all the other stuff he said he was going to do, he did. His cutting taxes for the richest, for example, is right there in the debate. Gore calls it for what it is, and Bush doesn’t disagree.

Bravo! This should be the next Democratic talking point the Hippocracy of bush himself in his own words! Spin that karl

Now THIS sux!

The alarm was first sounded last autumn, but has now hit half of all American states. The West Coast is thought to have lost 60 per cent of its commercial bee population, with 70 per cent missing on the East Coast.

CCD has since spread to Germany, Switzerland, Spain, Portugal, Italy and Greece. And last week John Chapple, one of London’s biggest bee-keepers, announced that 23 of his 40 hives have been abruptly abandoned.

Other apiarists have recorded losses in Scotland, Wales and north-west England, but the Department of the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs insisted: “There is absolutely no evidence of CCD in the UK.”

The implications of the spread are alarming. Most of the world’s crops depend on pollination by bees. Albert Einstein once said that if the bees disappeared, “man would have only four years of life left”.

http://news.independent.co.uk/…..449968.ece

ccmask at 94 — I haven’t, because we’ve still been having snow. It is too cold to plant them still. (Bummer!) Hopefully, it will warm up at some point and I’ll be able to get them planted. We’ve had the weirdest weather this year.

From the LA Times:

3 fired U.S. attorneys were tried by border policing
Documents show the Justice Department and prosecutors were often at odds over how to control illegal immigration.
By Richard A. Serrano, Times Staff Writer
April 15, 2007

WASHINGTON — As the Justice Department continues to release thousands of e-mails and documents, it is becoming increasingly clear that officials in Washington and top prosecutors in the field were often sharply at odds over one of President Bush’s law enforcement priorities: how best to police the Southwest’s porous border with Mexico.

Three of the eight U.S. attorneys fired last year were stationed in border-sensitive areas: San Diego, Phoenix and Albuquerque. Although praised in their job evaluations, the three were singled out for termination, partly because they could not slow the tide of illegal immigration and border crimes.

But the documents, released in response to congressional demands, also show that the U.S. attorneys complained Washington was not providing enough resources to fight immigration and drug crimes.

…

Linkypoo

mui @ 100

Oh crikey! Zinni is advocating a 6-year presidency so that the president can rise above politics and become an elder statesmen and stick to governing rather than reelection.
No, General, No!

The more I see of them, the more I think the U.S. military heirarchy are cowardly crackpots.

SonOfLiberty @ 5

Well, it least it didn’t rate a “read ‘em and weep”.

It’s going to be interesting to see what the various panel discussions say regarding the vanishing e-mails, not to mention KKKarl deleting his habitually.

Read ‘em and Veep?

Subway Serenade @ 102

Now THIS sux!

The alarm was first sounded last autumn, but has now hit half of all American states. The West Coast is thought to have lost 60 per cent of its commercial bee population, with 70 per cent missing on the East Coast.

CCD has since spread to Germany, Switzerland, Spain, Portugal, Italy and Greece. And last week John Chapple, one of London’s biggest bee-keepers, announced that 23 of his 40 hives have been abruptly abandoned.

Other apiarists have recorded losses in Scotland, Wales and north-west England, but the Department of the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs insisted: “There is absolutely no evidence of CCD in the UK.”

The implications of the spread are alarming. Most of the world’s crops depend on pollination by bees. Albert Einstein once said that if the bees disappeared, “man would have only four years of life left”.

http://news.independent.co.uk/…..449968.ece

I just read somewhere this morning that there is possibly a connection of the radiation from cell towers to the bee die off. I’ll keep looking for where I saw it.

selise @ 98

thanks! i just checked and there is one coming to manchester, NH in june – that’s pretty close for eastern MA folks.

Welcome. Hope you can go!!

Hooyah. This is great. Timmy and David Brooks are babbling about havning appeared on Imus, and the general culture of meanness (trying to mitigate Imus’ racism). Gwen Ifill takes them and other journalists to task for having appeared on the show and not spoken up about Imus’ being offensive before. Before now that is.

Oh, I forgot you deal with snow. My bad!

I found it… about the bees.

http://news.independent.co.uk/…..449968.ece

cathy @
107

Subway Serenade @ 102

Now THIS sux!

The alarm was first sounded last autumn, but has now hit half of all American states. The West Coast is thought to have lost 60 per cent of its commercial bee population, with 70 per cent missing on the East Coast.

CCD has since spread to Germany, Switzerland, Spain, Portugal, Italy and Greece. And last week John Chapple, one of London’s biggest bee-keepers, announced that 23 of his 40 hives have been abruptly abandoned.

Other apiarists have recorded losses in Scotland, Wales and north-west England, but the Department of the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs insisted: “There is absolutely no evidence of CCD in the UK.”

The implications of the spread are alarming. Most of the world’s crops depend on pollination by bees. Albert Einstein once said that if the bees disappeared, “man would have only four years of life left”.

http://news.independent.co.uk/…..449968.ece

I just read somewhere this morning that there is possibly a connection of the radiation from cell towers to the bee die off. I’ll keep looking for where I saw it.

I’ve also seen speculation about the effects of Genetically Modified foods too.

-GSD

I seriously doubt if the political will could be developed to ban cell phones in time to save the bees.

The universe will note that we talked ourselves to death. I’m glad I never owned a cell phone.

Abu quote:

Given my convictions on this issue, I testified before Congress in January and will do so again on Tuesday.

Freudian slip? Putting the cart before the horse? Dead man walking? What a maroon!

cbl @
64

eCAHNomics -

I am not surprised to hear Scheuer does not speak Arabic

fyi – I have had 2 brushes with death (or at least mortal danger) due to ignorance of all things Arab by our security/intel apparatus personnel stationed in the Middle East

the ones in sudan didn’t impress, so i’ll second that.

Face the Nation is on.
Cheney:’pork,pork,pork’

Timmeh and his table load of dummies just spent almost the whole time not used by Ret. Gen. Zinni – discussing Imus and the “nappy headed hos” that play basketball extremely well.

I find it mind-boggling that from the perspective of Timmeh, “Shooter’s tool,” something like, actual events in Iraq, or maybe whom’s zooming who vis-a-vis the congressional hearings littered with perjury and the AbuGate bidness in general. Of course the Heads (naval meaning implied) of Wisdom had to talk about Imus, because he is (or was) one of them!!!!!!

The most important things that happen in DC, happen on the “cocktail weenie” circuit (and no, I’m not referring to the rotation of Timmeh’s head.)

That’s all for talking heads for me today, I’m am patriotically required to watch play-off hockey the rest of the day – kick Dallas butt Canucks!

Cheney ‘Dems irresponsible cuz they are inconsistent’

solai @ 116

Face the Nation is on.
Cheney:’pork,pork,pork’

“The dems are irresponsible”

-he’s got all the talking points locked and loaded.

mui @ 109

Hooyah. This is great. Timmy and David Brooks are babbling about havning appeared on Imus, and the general culture of meanness (trying to mitigate Imus’ racism). Gwen Ifill takes them and other journalists to task for having appeared on the show and not spoken up about Imus’ being offensive before. Before now that is.

Frank Rich has a good op-ed in the NYTimes today about this. He’s not defending Imus, but he is definitely calling out the pitchforks and flaming torches approach to this.

Fresh thread, up and running for everyone.

When asked about the recent bombings in Iraq: Cheney – “I think we r making progress.” won’t underestimate the difficulty of the task.

solai @ 116

Face the Nation is on.
Cheney:’pork,pork,pork’

Good Morning!

I don’t know HOW you are watching him, I simply can’t do it anymore. I give you credit for being able to handle seeing or hearing him!

cheney is asked about his ‘last throes’ comment: Cheney – “We have to respond to the questions from the press and we do the best we can with the info we have at the time.”

“i believe we can win in iraq, it’s a worthy cause”

“there might have been a time when we could hide behind our oceans.”

“what happens over there is vital for our security”

Cell phones, geneticly modified foods, pesticides are next if this trend continues next year it becomes a campaign issue and those industries get the blame. Now then either bush throws alot of money into saving the bees or the telecom industry, chemical companies and Geneticly Modified food companies will lead the stockmarket to a meltdown. Assuming that we have enough food to forestall food riots that is. Is this only an American, Europe problem? how about Canada, Mexico, Asia Africa are their bees dying to? I hope not otherwise we are dead. But what is differnt about our country and a country where the bees are not dying? Assuming there is such a country we need to start ruling out possible causes!

David Brooks and John Harwood on MtP. Ughh. Brooks looks like a jittery toad. Somehow, because this is Timmy’s show, “fair and balanced” means listing a lot of Dems who were on Imus’ show and then listing an even shorter list of Republiakns that were on Imus’ show. Then of course, someone brings up “hate” in rap, because this is HoJoe type discussion of the degradation of “civility” in our culture, and not about racism. Then it’s asked why Jackson and Sharpton consider themselves “self-appointed ambassadors.” Gwen’s retort: because most prominent persons never step up to the plate on these issues ever (she also lists a number of persons who do and never get credit for it.)

twolf1 @ 124

cheney is asked about his ‘last throes’ comment: Cheney – “We have to respond to the questions from the press and we do the best we can with the info we have at the time.”

“i believe we can win in iraq, it’s a worthy cause”

“there might have been a time when we could hide behind our oceans.”

“what happens over there is vital for our security”

The sulfur rises.

Cheney re DoJ mess: “as VP, i dont know anything about that problem”

have u talked w/ scooter since the trial?

Shooter: I have not. this is a great tragedy.

Inappropriate for me to comment on the case.

DArth, says, Musharaf and Karzaid have signed up to fight an evil ideology….who knew? Notice when the veep speaks, he rarely gives direct eye contact to Bob….and I even caught him smirking (almost laughing) when he was asked why people should believe him now, when he has been wrong with so many statements in the past. Of course Darth rambled on about how he made those statements in the context of the time and based on what he knew to be true at the time….what a weasel..

Now onto AG, AG…credibility problem question? Does the Administration have a credibility problem? Again Cheney barely containing a laugh says of course not, we have problems but that ain’t one of them. And of course AG will be able to testify to congress we have confidence in him and he will answer questions.

Now onto Scooter Libby, cloud over vp? Vp has not talked to LIbby since trial….says the whole thing is a deep tragedy and has no occasion to talk to Libby. Not gonna get into the case and …Darth laughing when Bob ask if Scooter the fall guy for Cheney.

twolf, if you’re still here -

Did you notice shooter said “Al goes before congress on Wednesday, or some day this week.”? “Wednesday”?????? Wonder what that misspeak was intended to accomplish?

shooter………9/11…..9/11…..9/11

my too sense at 129 — Yes, I’m certain that Mrs. Libby found that immensely amusing. Nice that Cheney can laugh away the fact that his former number two is facing jail time based on handwritten marching orders with regard to the Wilsons that came from his own pen. Really nice.

Waccamaw @ 131

twolf, if you’re still here -

Did you notice shooter said “Al goes before congress on Wednesday, or some day this week.”? “Wednesday”?????? Wonder what that misspeak was intended to accomplish?

shooter………9/11…..9/11…..9/11

That comment was to show that he is soooo uninvolved, he doesn’t even know when AbuG is testifying.

Darth continuing…9/11, don’t forget 9/11.

Now question is Bush isolated? again barely continaing laughter Darth says it’s ridiculous and he actually gets out and goes shopping for b-day presents with his daughter for his grandaughter. Gawd that proves it then, he goes shopping so he’s not isolated…talk about a literal intepretation of the word, quit taking us for the fools you think we are veep.

CHS @ 132….I bet Mrs. Libby and the kids are none too happy with his laughing either.

my too sense @ 130

DArth, says, Musharaf and Karzaid have signed up to fight an evil ideology….who knew? Notice when the veep speaks, he rarely gives direct eye contact to Bob….and I even caught him smirking (almost laughing) when he was asked why people should believe him now, when he has been wrong with so many statements in the past. Of course Darth rambled on about how he made those statements in the context of the time and based on what he knew to be true at the time….what a weasel..

Now onto AG, AG…credibility problem question? Does the Administration have a credibility problem? Again Cheney barely containing a laugh says of course not, we have problems but that ain’t one of them. And of course AG will be able to testify to congress we have confidence in him and he will answer questions.

Now onto Scooter Libby, cloud over vp? Vp has not talked to LIbby since trial….says the whole thing is a deep tragedy and has no occasion to talk to Libby. Not gonna get into the case and …Darth laughing when Bob ask if Scooter the fall guy for Cheney.

Hahahaha, says Dr. Evil. I think I missed the program, but I can picture the sulphurous fumes that are rising in the room. An evil cloud enveloping the studio. Someone shall have to fumigate after the Dark Master takes his leave.

mui @ 126

David Brooks and John Harwood on MtP. Ughh. Brooks looks like a jittery toad. Somehow, because this is Timmy’s show, “fair and balanced” means listing a lot of Dems who were on Imus’ show and then listing an even shorter list of Republiakns that were on Imus’ show. Then of course, someone brings up “hate” in rap, because this is HoJoe type discussion of the degradation of “civility” in our culture, and not about racism. Then it’s asked why Jackson and Sharpton consider themselves “self-appointed ambassadors.” Gwen’s retort: because most prominent persons never step up to the plate on these issues ever (she also lists a number of persons who do and never get credit for it.)

Holy Joe and “civility” in our culture code words for racism! What about Johnny Cash Delia’s gone “I tied her to a chair” “one more round Delia’s gone” nope only black rap music. What about the “killing liberals ” statments made by Ann Coulter and the rest of her jackal friends Imus’s statment was a statment made by the host of talk show/political/news program not a rapper! Why is everyone suddenly talking about rappers and trying to excuse Imus 2 wrongs don’t make a right. Lets talk about Ann and Rush and the entire Fox Network when we do something about people who praise the guys who bomb abortion clinics then we can move on to music but not just the blacks Rap no more code words! By the way I am against censorship but I am also against hurting real people, these creeps have gotten away with crazy talk about killing people too long! I think its time to draw a line! Talking even joking about killing real people should be banned! Same for talking about killing groups of people. Murder ballads in songs can stay! I’m open to suggestions/criticism on this.

my too sense @ 134

Darth continuing…9/11, don’t forget 9/11.

Now question is Bush isolated? again barely continaing laughter Darth says it’s ridiculous and he actually gets out and goes shopping for b-day presents with his daughter for his grandaughter. Gawd that proves it then, he goes shopping so he’s not isolated…talk about a literal intepretation of the word, quit taking us for the fools you think we are veep.

Oh that’s good. The Dark Master inserts that family stuff in. *He* goes shopping. I doubt it? I betchya $20 a toady does it for him.

mui, Yeah, he’s so matter of fact about the shopping story, and he’s proven pathological liar (we know that he has in fact reconstituted his nuclear weapons), I wonder if that story is true? Wonder if he thinks sitting in his bunker with Liz or Mary on a computer ordering his grandaughter’s b-day present on line is his idea of “out shopping with his daughter”?

things come undone @ 137

mui @ 126

David Brooks and John Harwood on MtP. Ughh. Brooks looks like a jittery toad. Somehow, because this is Timmy’s show, “fair and balanced” means listing a lot of Dems who were on Imus’ show and then listing an even shorter list of Republiakns that were on Imus’ show. Then of course, someone brings up “hate” in rap, because this is HoJoe type discussion of the degradation of “civility” in our culture, and not about racism. Then it’s asked why Jackson and Sharpton consider themselves “self-appointed ambassadors.” Gwen’s retort: because most prominent persons never step up to the plate on these issues ever (she also lists a number of persons who do and never get credit for it.)

Holy Joe and “civility” in our culture code words for racism! What about Johnny Cash Delia’s gone “I tied her to a chair” “one more round Delia’s gone” nope only black rap music. What about the “killing liberals ” statments made by Ann Coulter and the rest of her jackal friends Imus’s statment was a statment made by the host of talk show/political/news program not a rapper! Why is everyone suddenly talking about rappers and trying to excuse Imus 2 wrongs don’t make a right. Lets talk about Ann and Rush and the entire Fox Network when we do something about people who praise the guys who bomb abortion clinics then we can move on to music but not just the blacks Rap no more code words! By the way I am against censorship but I am also against hurting real people, these creeps have gotten away with crazy talk about killing people too long! I think its time to draw a line! Talking even joking about killing real people should be banned! Same for talking about killing groups of people. Murder ballads in songs can stay! I’m open to suggestions/criticism on this.

I gotta agree with you that rap is not the problem. It shouldn’t even be part of the equation. It’s just a convenient debating point for Brooks and Timmy and HoJoe. Rappers sell their music and do not write legislation and heavily influence this country’s public policy
Racism however is a problem. Imus and others like to conveniently forget that the kinds of derogatory words they use so blithely once translated as “uppity” this or that, which in a not so distant history was used as justification for Jim Crow-ists to lynch and practice other kinds of violent oppression.

my too sense @ 139

mui, Yeah, he’s so matter of fact about the shopping story, and he’s proven pathological liar (we know that he has in fact reconstituted his nuclear weapons), I wonder if that story is true? Wonder if he thinks sitting in his bunker with Liz or Mary on a computer ordering his grandaughter’s b-day present on line is his idea of “out shopping with his daughter”?

Oh shoot, my answer to the “civilty” part is in moderation.

[Modnote: refresh, and all will be well]

mui @ 141

my too sense @ 139

mui, Yeah, he’s so matter of fact about the shopping story, and he’s proven pathological liar (we know that he has in fact reconstituted his nuclear weapons), I wonder if that story is true? Wonder if he thinks sitting in his bunker with Liz or Mary on a computer ordering his grandaughter’s b-day present on line is his idea of “out shopping with his daughter”?

Oh shoot, my answer to the “civilty” part is in moderation.

[Modnote: refresh, and all will be well]

Ah, ’tis magickal computer wizardry at work!

selise @
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just a drive-by, but i want to link to an excellent piece (with many links),”The Misplaced Focus on Gonzales“, by marty lederman at balkinization on abu’s wapo op-ed this morning:

the real action on the “merits” was not at DOJ, but in the White House, where the process was initiated by Karl Rove and where the final decision was made by the President. Thus, the current focus on the Attorney General is something of a distraction, at least insofar as Congress’s objective is to determine whether anything unlawful or unconstitutional was involved in the U.S. Attorney dismissals. Congress cannot determine whether the removals were made for improper reasons unless it discovers what Rove and Miers advised the President, and why they did so.

Maybe AG is a distraction from a strictly constitutional law point of view, but from a political point of view, placing focus on him seems like an excellent idea, if only because a resignation would force the WH to go through confirmation hearings for a successor at a time when their credibility is seriously weakened, and they might have to cut a deal that involved a promise of serious independent investigation with not just sub poena power, but easily enforceable sub poena power…and who knows where that might lead.

eCAHNomics @
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Here’s my question on Gonzales op-ed:

I have nevertheless asked the Justice Department’s Office of Professional Responsibility to further investigate this matter. Working with the department’s Office of Inspector General, these nonpartisan professionals will complete their own independent investigation

My bold. Have those offices already been infiltrated by loyal Bushies?

According to Jessalyn Raddack, yes

I gotta agree with you that rap is not the problem. It shouldn’t even be part of the equation. It’s just a convenient debating point for Brooks and Timmy and HoJoe. Rappers sell their music and do not write legislation and heavily influence this country’s public policy
Racism however is a problem. Imus and others like to conveniently forget that the kinds of derogatory words they use so blithely once translated as “uppity” this or that, which in a not so distant history was used as justification for Jim Crow-ists to lynch and practice other kinds of violent oppression.