Eli! I can’t believe I was first. I’m usually in the triple digits.

Get Rove and you’ll own the company.

What we need is for one of them to sing. We need Biskupic to feel it’s in his interest to out those who pressured him. A senate hearing might help his memory ya think?

Millions of missing emails. These emails were sent somewhere. Someone has the smoking gun.

They’re going to lose the legal community vote, too, if this interview with Daniel Metcalfe, a former career DOJ attorney, is any indication.

Q: You began in the Justice Department during the Watergate years. How would you rank Alberto Gonzales in terms of politicization of the department in comparison to the other AGs you have worked for?

A: Actually, I began earlier, in the first Nixon administration, as a college intern in 1971. But I was there again in the Watergate era, when I worked in part of the Attorney General’s Office during my first year of law school in 1973-1974, and then continuously as a trial attorney and office director for nearly 30 years. That adds up to more than a dozen attorneys general, including Ed Meese as well as John Mitchell, and I used to think that they had politicized the department more than anyone could or should. But nothing compares to the past two years under Alberto Gonzales.

This is a brief summary snippet. Go read the whole thing for the gory details. Groupthink, hit lists, “nary a paper trail”, and more.

This. Must. Be. Stopped.

Peterr @ 4

They’re going to lose the legal community vote, too, if this interview with Daniel Metcalfe, a former career DOJ attorney, is any indication.

Q: You began in the Justice Department during the Watergate years. How would you rank Alberto Gonzales in terms of politicization of the department in comparison to the other AGs you have worked for?

A: Actually, I began earlier, in the first Nixon administration, as a college intern in 1971. But I was there again in the Watergate era, when I worked in part of the Attorney General’s Office during my first year of law school in 1973-1974, and then continuously as a trial attorney and office director for nearly 30 years. That adds up to more than a dozen attorneys general, including Ed Meese as well as John Mitchell, and I used to think that they had politicized the department more than anyone could or should. But nothing compares to the past two years under Alberto Gonzales.

This is a brief summary snippet. Go read the whole thing for the gory details. Groupthink, hit lists, “nary a paper trail”, and more.

This. Must. Be. Stopped.

The remaining USAs are pretty pissed off at the implication that they must have played ball to keep their jobs, too.

Eli @ 6

Peterr @ 4

They’re going to lose the legal community vote, too, if this interview with Daniel Metcalfe, a former career DOJ attorney, is any indication.

Q: You began in the Justice Department during the Watergate years. How would you rank Alberto Gonzales in terms of politicization of the department in comparison to the other AGs you have worked for?

A: Actually, I began earlier, in the first Nixon administration, as a college intern in 1971. But I was there again in the Watergate era, when I worked in part of the Attorney General’s Office during my first year of law school in 1973-1974, and then continuously as a trial attorney and office director for nearly 30 years. That adds up to more than a dozen attorneys general, including Ed Meese as well as John Mitchell, and I used to think that they had politicized the department more than anyone could or should. But nothing compares to the past two years under Alberto Gonzales.

This is a brief summary snippet. Go read the whole thing for the gory details. Groupthink, hit lists, “nary a paper trail”, and more.

This. Must. Be. Stopped.

The remaining USAs are pretty pissed off at the implication that they must have played ball to keep their jobs, too.

How is it stopped?
Investigations and whistleblowers?

We just have to be patient. Even among all the kool-aid drinkers, someone will say something in passing either to Congressional investigators or someone else that will let the cat out of teh bag. Kinda like Alexander Butterfield during H2Ogate. He just mentioned in passing the taping system and that was the keystone that brought the entire edifice down around the trickster’s ears.

Same thing will happen here as these people are just not that bright. Once you build the house of lies, EVERYONE has to maintain EVERY lie and these clowns will not be able to keep it up. They are just nowhere near as smart and quick as they think they are. Just give it time (and a few good former prosecutors in the Congress).

Think about dying slowly from nuclear poisoning. This is what the Bush cabal is proposing with an invasion of Iran. The Democrats must move faster.

dakine01 @ 7

We just have to be patient. Even among all the kool-aid drinkers, someone will say something in passing either to Congressional investigators or someone else that will let the cat out of teh bag. Kinda like Alexander Butterfield during H2Ogate. He just mentioned in passing the taping system and that was the keystone that brought the entire edifice down around the trickster’s ears.

Same thing will happen here as these people are just not that bright. Once you build the house of lies, EVERYONE has to maintain EVERY lie and these clowns will not be able to keep it up. They are just nowhere near as smart and quick as they think they are. Just give it time (and a few good former prosecutors in the Congress).

I hope so. I’m greedy – I want to see them get nailed for both the crime *and* the coverup.

Eli @ 6

The remaining USAs are pretty pissed off at the implication that they must have played ball to keep their jobs, too.

Lie down with dogs…
Nice piece.

Eli @ 6 says:

The remaining USAs are pretty pissed off at the implication that they must have played ball to keep their jobs, too.

And the ones who ARE honest are going to have a hell of a time of it unless someone can show how to tell the liars from the honest ones. Anyone think the USA in Jersey isn’t sweatin’ right now after his little pre-election dance about Menendez?

I wonder how one gets to be a Bush insider? Is it the $5,000 contribution or what?

We just have to be patient.

Haven’t we been patient? It’s been going on for 30 years, ever since Nixon. I’m tired of being patient.

It’s just about time to hit the streets. Or am I being extremely extreme? Is that the same as being radically radical?

ccmask @ 13

I wonder how one gets to be a Bush insider? Is it the $5,000 contribution or what?

You have to be a member of the family, capishe?

dakine01 @ 11

And the ones who ARE honest are going to have a hell of a time of it unless someone can show how to tell the liars from the honest ones.

E-mails would probably help. Did any of them get e-mails asking for them to help provide mud for the 2006 election?

Or maybe someone just called them at home like Domenici did? The loyal Bushies probably wouldn’t mention that.

I’m assuming that the reason that the almost-purged USAs were redacted was not to protect their reputations, but to prevent anyone from looking too closely at their investigations.

Cause I could use a raise.

ccmask @ 17

Cause I could use a raise.

If you need a raise, you’re not Bushie material.

Eli @ 10

dakine01 @ 7

We just have to be patient. Even among all the kool-aid drinkers, someone will say something in passing either to Congressional investigators or someone else that will let the cat out of teh bag. Kinda like Alexander Butterfield during H2Ogate. He just mentioned in passing the taping system and that was the keystone that brought the entire edifice down around the trickster’s ears.

Same thing will happen here as these people are just not that bright. Once you build the house of lies, EVERYONE has to maintain EVERY lie and these clowns will not be able to keep it up. They are just nowhere near as smart and quick as they think they are. Just give it time (and a few good former prosecutors in the Congress).

I hope so. I’m greedy – I want to see them get nailed for both the crime *and* the coverup.

There was some pretty good nostalgia going on the Fred Fielding thread earlier today. The thing is, from the time of the H2Ogate break-in (6/72 iirc) until the trickster resigned was 26 months. Someone pointed out that it was 18 months from appointment of Archibald Cox till resignation. The investigations really began in earnest in early ‘73 (Senate Select Committee met from 3/73 and issued report in 6/73) culminating in Nixon gone in August ‘74. Even without the toobz, things moved fast. And at the time, ALL the broadcast networks covered the Watergate and Impeachment hearings live as a civic duty. Fascinating to watch. We’re still just getting warmed up here.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 15

It’s just about time to hit the streets. Or am I being extremely extreme? Is that the same as being radically radical?

Abaout a week ago I overheard some people talking, just… ordinary people. They were talking about armed revolution. That that would be what it would take… I was flabbergasted. But there seem to be ordinary folk talking like that… It’s amazing.

Oklahoma kiddo @
4

Millions of missing emails. These emails were sent somewhere. Someone has the smoking gun.

There must be hundreds of them. On laptops spread all over the country. I would think that someone must be disillusioned with this, but they are Bushies, and the price for betrayal is pretty severe.

Well, I’m about $100,000 short of being a Gop

There is a revolution beginning. In Mother Russia.

I remember hearing that Rove was tech-savy. I wonder if he learned it at one of the 6 colleges he attended, without a degree, I might add.

AP – Riot police beat and detained protesters as thousands defied an official ban and attempted to stage a rally Saturday against President Vladimir Putin’s government, which opponents accuse of rolling back freedoms Russians have enjoyed since the end of Soviet communism.

noen @ 14

We just have to be patient.

Haven’t we been patient? It’s been going on for 30 years, ever since Nixon. I’m tired of being patient.

noen, I hear you. The worst thing to ever happen was Ford pardoning Nixon as it left the snake head unpunished. And set the precedent used by both Ray-guns and Bush 1 in Iran/Contra. Which is why so many of the same players are back again and again. Speaking here of Darth Cheney, Elliott Abrams, Poindexter, Wolfiwitz and all the other neo-con-artists.

ccmask @ 25

I remember hearing that Rove was tech-savy. I wonder if he learned it at one of the 6 colleges he attended, without a degree, I might add.

Karl is such a smarty pants. Eight years in college, and nothing.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 26

AP – Riot police beat and detained protesters as thousands defied an official ban and attempted to stage a rally Saturday against President Vladimir Putin’s government, which opponents accuse of rolling back freedoms Russians have enjoyed since the end of Soviet communism.

Gary Kasparov, my hero.

Let’s not forget the Connecticut USA who’s tasked to AGAG while running his office up north as well. Makes it hard to look into incumbent Senators’ re-election slush funds when you’re doing two jobs while working to be confirmed for a third.

Also, no federal defense attorney will fail to mention the politicization of the USAttorneys’ offices when standing on the courthouse steps to declare a client innocent, pre- or post-trial. The rule of law has taken a significant hit in our nation. We need an entirely new DoJ in order to fix what BushCo wrought. Just like everywhere else.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 28

ccmask @ 25

I remember hearing that Rove was tech-savy. I wonder if he learned it at one of the 6 colleges he attended, without a degree, I might add.

Karl is such a smarty pants. Eight years in college, and nothing.

He was working the system. There is a word for that but it escapes me right now…. oh, “professional student”. That’s it.

ccmask @ 23

Well, I’m about $100,000 short of being a Gop

I would just like to have what they save from the tax free contracts..

TeddySanFran @ 29

Also, no federal defense attorney will fail to mention the politicization of the USAttorneys’ offices when standing on the courthouse steps to declare a client innocent, pre- or post-trial. The rule of law has taken a significant hit in our nation. We need an entirely new DoJ in order to fix what BushCo wrought. Just like everywhere else.

Just wait until 2009, when the new Democratic USAs start trying to clean up after 8 years of Republican criminality in their jurisdictions…

Are you familiar with Amy Klobachar Eli? She’s my senator. (Minn) I’m mighty proud of her and she is one tough prosecutor. Wouldn’t want to cross her at all.

noen @ 33

Are you familiar with Amy Klobachar Eli? She’s my senator. (Minn) I’m mighty proud of her and she is one tough prosecutor. Wouldn’t want to cross her at all.

I’m pretty sure I gave her money…

I don’t understand about losing the techie vote because of this. Also, I am tired of being patient. If something isn’t done soon, all the evidence will be destroyed and they will get away scot free.

In the absence of justice, what is sovereignty but organized robbery?
Saint Augustine

When The Texas Blueprint for the Stolen Election was published in late 2002, I only received one email in response:

Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 12:52:19 -0500
From: “Rob Joseph”

Subject: Texas Blueprint for the Stolen Election

Dear Mr. Knutson,

I read your article titled ‘Texas Blueprint for the Stolen Election’ and want to thank you for an excellent synopsis.

I am curious though, given that it’s obvious that the illegal RNC tactics cost the DNC the Presidency, what is the DNC doing about it?

I know you are very busy but I am really concerned about this and if you can carve out a moment to reply, I would be most grateful to you.

With deep respect,

Rob Joseph

Note the formal and solicitous tone of the email, and the curiosity about the DNC.

This was sent from a simplifyandconnect.com email account; a follow up email 6 months later was from a prepaidlegal.com email account, which is associated with the simplify and connect website.

The significance of this? Robert Joseph was on the NSC staff, and was responsible for the 16 words on Niger yellowcake in the SOTU speech.

I bring this up, because it suggests the Karl Rove Krew used a variety of email accounts, beyond the RNC and gwb43.com.

Bonnie @ 36

I don’t understand about losing the techie vote because of this. Also, I am tired of being patient. If something isn’t done soon, all the evidence will be destroyed and they will get away scot free.

In the absence of justice, what is sovereignty but organized robbery?
Saint Augustine

ohhhh, nice quote.

Bonnie @ 35

I don’t understand about losing the techie vote because of this.

I don’t think their excuses about why they can’t produce e-mails are going to hold water with anyone who knows how this stuff works. They might be able to blow enough smoke and jargon-y double-talk to confuse everyone else, though.

i’d love to think that smoking gun emails will be recovered… but if not, because there was a really thorough job done of deleting them (including all copies, archives and logs), the smoking gun may come from the techie IT folks (at the EOP, RNC, rove’s company…) who were told to get rid of the emails.

what were the orders and who gave them?

more info in epu’ed comment from a few threads back – here

That Cummins statement sums it up for me. Republikans don’t believe in justice. And the DOJ is tanked. There is zero credibility. I can’t even believe that the Columbus Ohio “terrorism” case wasn’t a politically motivated attempt for the BushDoJ to look like it was doing very “important” things besides heavily weighing the system against Democrats.
Biskupic sounds a lot like Paulose prosecuting Dems close to the governor close before election. And Domenici was Iglesias’ watcher and they fired Iglesias because he didn’t pursue the Bush/Rove agenda like a replikant, a clone, a . . . . Well good, I hope the staff that left Paulose *tell all.*

wow, -ck-, that’s pretty amazing

Take care not to advocate any kind of violent insurrection or sedition.

who here doesn’t think that the Republicans won’t make lemonade out of this two years from now when Democratic USAs start investigating them?

That’s why any Dem candidate needs to get ahead of the story with some inoculation of his/her own. Because unless the DOJ is genuinely purged of those Pat Robertson U grads who don’t take wingnut welfare in 2009, a Democratic president is going to be screwed from within.

Bipartisan commission on DOJ reform? Support for the transformation of the US Attorney position into a career post?

TeddySanFran @ 41

wow, -ck-, that’s pretty amazing

I’m hoping you blew him some plausible-sounding smoke, -ck-.

-ck- @ 37

When The Texas Blueprint for the Stolen Election was published in late 2002, I only received one email in response:

Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 12:52:19 -0500
From: “Rob Joseph”

Subject: Texas Blueprint for the Stolen Election

Dear Mr. Knutson,

I read your article titled ‘Texas Blueprint for the Stolen Election’ and want to thank you for an excellent synopsis.

I am curious though, given that it’s obvious that the illegal RNC tactics cost the DNC the Presidency, what is the DNC doing about it?

I know you are very busy but I am really concerned about this and if you can carve out a moment to reply, I would be most grateful to you.

With deep respect,

Rob Joseph

Note the formal and solicitous tone of the email, and the curiosity about the DNC.

This was sent from a simplifyandconnect.com email account; a follow up email 6 months later was from a prepaidlegal.com email account, which is associated with the simplify and connect website.

The significance of this? Robert Joseph was on the NSC staff, and was responsible for the 16 words on Niger yellowcake in the SOTU speech.

I bring this up, because it suggests the Karl Rove Krew used a variety of email accounts, beyond the RNC and gwb43.com.

Are those kinds of email accounts, the simplify and connect type, are they stored or recoverable in any way?

The brilliant simplicity of naming a project or organization exactly the opposite of what it is designed to do is Rove werk genius. The opposition (whom is anyone capable of independent thought) must first convince the public that the name corresponds to the polar opposite of its stated intent.

No one wants to believe that! It seems paranoid. Karl’s Voter fraud program is designed to ensure voter fraud. Clear skies are designed to allow more pollution, NCLB is designed to leave children behind, etc. That Rove! What a joker!

Our small company tried to find government contracts because we are in manufacturing. It was impossible. We never heard a word from any of them.

Why isn’t somebody coming forward? If not to be patriotic, then to save their own ass?

I share the frustration, Eli. So let’s step back; what if a “smoking gun” is exactly what the WH wants us to be looking for? But Rove knows that he only does real “business” by means that aren’t traceable. We’re assuming the evidence is there, left through negligence. The man has been covering his trail for years.

In the meantime, the entire Justice Department is compromised, and there are signs everywhere. Like the slime from slugs, there are tracks of criminal/corrupt behavior everywhere, and where is the Justice Department? We don’t have one, and the man in charge is in hiding practicing how to lie. Look at the larger picture — it’s a smoking cannon.

Because each and every one of them ate the oath. The loyalty oat.

Call me paranoid, and if that’s the case, it doesn’t mean “they” are not after me. But I am convinced the FBI, NSA, the CIA and who knows who else are monitoring the blogs.

Folks, I’ll say it again, be patient. It will happen. H2Ogate had 18-24 months of revelations coming out daily/weekly before the “smoking gun” was found. Let the Congress critters like Waxman/Conyers/Leahy do their thing,

The Chimpenfuhrer/KKKArl/Darth/Abu are not that damn smart. Nor are their henchlings. It will happen.

There are still honest folks in DoJ and other departments who are p*ss’d at being caught in the sh*t storm. They just have to be v-e-r-y careful. There was Deep Throat and others during H2Ogate feeding information.

And BTW, during H@Ogate, most all of the major national pundits/new orgs were denigrating the idea of corruption in Trickster’s group as they were out drinking cocktails and having dinner with the like fo John Mitchell and Richard Kleindeist and Erlichman and Haldeman. S2D2.

Scarecrow @ 50

I share the frustration, Eli. So let’s step back; what if a “smoking gun” is exactly what the WH wants us to be looking for? But Rove knows that he only does real “business” by means that aren’t traceable. We’re assuming the evidence is there, left through negligence. The man has been covering his trail for years.

In the meantime, the entire Justice Department is compromised, and there are signs everywhere. Like the slime from slugs, there are tracks of criminal/corrupt behavior everywhere, and where is the Justice Department? We don’t have one, and the man in charge is in hiding practicing how to lie. Look at the larger picture — it’s a smoking cannon.

True but that itsn’t enough is it? You would have to estableish a clear pattern. That would be pretty hard I’d think.

Cheney, Bush, Rover et al all use untraceable means of communicating, but there is no such beast. There have to be records somewhere.

Scarecrow @ 49

I share the frustration, Eli. So let’s step back; what if a “smoking gun” is exactly what the WH wants us to be looking for? But Rove knows that he only does real “business” by means that aren’t traceable. We’re assuming the evidence is there, left through negligence. The man has been covering his trail for years.

The thought did occur. I wonder if he’s still as much of a Blackberry addict as he used to be…

mui @ 41

That Cummins statement sums it up for me. Republikans don’t believe in justice. And the DOJ is tanked. There is zero credibility. I can’t even believe that the Columbus Ohio “terrorism” case wasn’t a politically motivated attempt for the BushDoJ to look like it was doing very “important” things besides heavily weighing the system against Democrats.
Biskupic sounds a lot like Paulose prosecuting Dems close to the governor close before election. And Domenici was Iglesias’ watcher and they fired Iglesias because he didn’t pursue the Bush/Rove agenda like a replikant, a clone, a . . . . Well good, I hope the staff that left Paulose *tell all.*

Basically, the Republicans have set off a dirty bomb inside the US judicial system.
Any prosecution of a politician by a US Attorney from the other party is now suspect.
This may in fact be a feature, not a bug.

ccmask @
13

I wonder how one gets to be a Bush insider? Is it the $5,000 contribution or what?

Well, for $50,000 you can be ambassador to Belgium.

selise @ 40

the smoking gun may come from the techie IT folks (at the EOP, RNC, rove’s company…) who were told to get rid of the emails.

If I were an outside contractor with ‘migration of White House email system from Lotus Notes to Outlook’ on my resume, I’d probably want to go on the record.

(And I’d like to know more about the ‘glitch’: was it a problem with replacing the existing Notes/ARMS archiving system, which Dan Burton whined so much about in the Clinton years?)

But it’d be good to know who got that contract.

-ck- @ 37

When The Texas Blueprint for the Stolen Election was published in late 2002, I only received one email in response:

Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 12:52:19 -0500
From: “Rob Joseph”

Subject: Texas Blueprint for the Stolen Election

Dear Mr. Knutson,

I read your article titled ‘Texas Blueprint for the Stolen Election’ and want to thank you for an excellent synopsis.

I am curious though, given that it’s obvious that the illegal RNC tactics cost the DNC the Presidency, what is the DNC doing about it?

I know you are very busy but I am really concerned about this and if you can carve out a moment to reply, I would be most grateful to you.

With deep respect,

Rob Joseph

Note the formal and solicitous tone of the email, and the curiosity about the DNC.

This was sent from a simplifyandconnect.com email account; a follow up email 6 months later was from a prepaidlegal.com email account, which is associated with the simplify and connect website.

The significance of this? Robert Joseph was on the NSC staff, and was responsible for the 16 words on Niger yellowcake in the SOTU speech.

I bring this up, because it suggests the Karl Rove Krew used a variety of email accounts, beyond the RNC and gwb43.com.

You mean all these?

http://www.robtex.com/dns/gwb43.com.html

Peterr @
5

They’re going to lose the legal community vote, too, if this interview with Daniel Metcalfe, a former career DOJ attorney, is any indication.

Q: You began in the Justice Department during the Watergate years. How would you rank Alberto Gonzales in terms of politicization of the department in comparison to the other AGs you have worked for?

A: Actually, I began earlier, in the first Nixon administration, as a college intern in 1971. But I was there again in the Watergate era, when I worked in part of the Attorney General’s Office during my first year of law school in 1973-1974, and then continuously as a trial attorney and office director for nearly 30 years. That adds up to more than a dozen attorneys general, including Ed Meese as well as John Mitchell, and I used to think that they had politicized the department more than anyone could or should. But nothing compares to the past two years under Alberto Gonzales.

This is a brief summary snippet. Go read the whole thing for the gory details. Groupthink, hit lists, “nary a paper trail”, and more.

This. Must. Be. Stopped.

My god, Peterr, read this last thread. If you haven’t yet read it, do so. I forgot to thank the person who introduced me to it last thread. Thanks.

selise @40,

Agreed. Large chunks of that email is likely gone for good, but the IT folks that were responsible for managing the data are the key to getting to the bottom of what happened. Deliberate effort to cover tracks were made if in fact the data is not recoverable by standard means (backup, current saved files) and they know how it was done.

Has anyone determined yet whether or not the RNC mail servers were under the control of the RNC IT team?

Oklahoma kiddo @ 52

Call me paranoid, and if that’s the case, it doesn’t mean “they” are not after me. But I am convinced the FBI, NSA, the CIA and who knows who else are monitoring the blogs.

Point taken. I’d never say such things, I was only relaying info I’d overheard and even then I hesitated.

This is all text, it would take the NSA’s cray’s about one or two machine cycles to filter it. For what that is worth.

ccmask @
13

I wonder how one gets to be a Bush insider? Is it the $5,000 contribution or what?

these guys, up til now, have been gettin’ a pretty good Return on Investmet…

With such a large hint of impropriety in re voting and the DOJ, Congress must pass a law (ASAP) requiring only hand counted paper ballots! jmho

Rove can be had.

ES- Just leave Oregon alone for now.

ccmask @ 51

Because each and every one of them ate the oath. The loyalty oat.

Georgia10 from kos had a six part interview with, I think Daniel Ellesburg? In it he said there was a way around that loyalty oath. Or that it didn’t hold them to exactly what they thought it did.

TeddySanFran @ 30

Let’s not forget the Connecticut USA who’s tasked to AGAG while running his office up north as well. Makes it hard to look into incumbent Senators’ re-election slush funds when you’re doing two jobs while working to be confirmed for a third.

Oh hey! Doesn’t that guy sound like he has the proper credentials too. 39. Both he and the wifey were legal advisors to ex-gov. & felon “There’s no money for anyone, unless you’re a friend” Rowland. I can’t count how many jobs this O’Connor has. It seems he’s retaining his CT position while working as Chief of Staff to Abu. Only Dodd seems to be protesting that.

Let our Democratic officials know we want Rove to have his day in court. If you get Rove, you’ll have the other two rascals.

noen @ 66

ccmask @ 51

Because each and every one of them ate the oath. The loyalty oat.

Georgia10 from kos had a six part interview with, I think Daniel Ellesburg? In it he said there was a way around that loyalty oath. Or that it didn’t hold them to exactly what they thought it did.

If anyone can speak to that it would be him. He released the Pentagon Papers and was acquited. He was also the one whose psychiatrist’s office was burglarized.

mui @ 66

TeddySanFran @ 30

Let’s not forget the Connecticut USA who’s tasked to AGAG while running his office up north as well. Makes it hard to look into incumbent Senators’ re-election slush funds when you’re doing two jobs while working to be confirmed for a third.

Oh hey! Doesn’t that guy sound like he has the proper credentials too. 39. Both he and the wifey were legal advisors to ex-gov. & felon “There’s no money for anyone, unless you’re a friend” Rowland. I can’t count how many jobs this O’Connor has. It seems he’s retaining his CT position while working as Chief of Staff to Abu. Only Dodd seems to be protesting that.

It seems like they’re all under 40 with dubious degrees and little or no practical experience.

It’s almost as if they were selected using an entirely different set of criteria…

Anyone see Scott McClellan on Mahr last night? Well, he got booed when he walked out. And right he should. He must have been a plant on the show to come on last night & still push the Bush meme. Booo. Everyone of them were big time, but 11/7 changed everything for them.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 15

It’s just about time to hit the streets. Or am I being extremely extreme? Is that the same as being radically radical?

Me no thinkee so, O.K. … I see a great many people in a great many places around this Nation paying hommage to the Late Great Molly Ivins by congregating with pots and pans which will be banged together for the benefit of the TV cameras. In such numbers that the demonstrations cannot either be covered up or stopped. And which hopefully will garner the attention of our legislators on both sides of the aisle.

Then after that, if required, the next phase may involve Torches and Pitchforks. Legal Torches and Pitchforks to be sure. /snark

More on CT US attorney

O’Connor said Tuesday in a statement.

“I am also confident that the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Connecticut will not miss a beat and will continue to function at the high level that the citizens of Connecticut expect from us.”

Sure. Can you tell us about HoJoe’s slushfund then?

Well, mui, Libby also had two jobs. They said that several times on record.

smapdi @ 65

ES- Just leave Oregon alone for now.

I thought OR hand counted paper ballots.

ccmask @
25

I remember hearing that Rove was tech-savy. I wonder if he learned it at one of the 6 colleges he attended, without a degree, I might add.

Do tell.

Rove is the key. The linchpin. The hub of the spokes. Rove is a must do.

Patterns of behavior. In animals, in birds, in fish, in nature in people. A tiger doesn’t change it’s stripes, nor a leopard it’s spots…

Rove is a political animal whose only purpose in life is to keep R’s in power and to live vicariously through George W. Bush. He may have tons of money, but he has a corrupt soul. Ever since the Nixon Committee to Reeelect the President (CREEP) and Nixon’s dirty tricks Rove has exibited certain patterns of behavior…

A leopard doesn’t change it’s spots.

S.O.S. from MA @ 73

Oklahoma kiddo @ 15

It’s just about time to hit the streets. Or am I being extremely extreme? Is that the same as being radically radical?

Me no thinkee so, O.K. … I see a great many people in a great many places around this Nation paying hommage to the Late Great Molly Ivins by congregating with pots and pans which will be banged together for the benefit of the TV cameras. In such numbers that the demonstrations cannot either be covered up or stopped. And which hopefully will garner the attention of our legislators on both sides of the aisle.

Then after that, if required, the next phase may involve Torches and Pitchforks. Legal Torches and Pitchforks to be sure. /snark

Sounds like what we are doing here except it’s virtual.

Loo Hoo @ 77

ccmask @
25

I remember hearing that Rove was tech-savy. I wonder if he learned it at one of the 6 colleges he attended, without a degree, I might add.

Do tell.

Well, if you google karl.rove@ you get a link to this:
In many respects, however, the apprentice Rove has far exceeded the chicanery and evil-mindedness of his mentor Segretti. Rove is a tech-savvy puppet master for Bush. Take, for example, last June’s discovery of a “lost” CD-ROM in Lafayette Park across from the White House. Contained on the CD was a PowerPoint presentation given by White House political director Ken Mehlman to Rove on the strategy for next Tuesday’s off-year election. The slide show showed First Brother Jeb Bush being vulnerable in Florida. Jeb Bush later joked that the disc was part of a plot cooked up by him and his brother to make it appear that he was vulnerable in order to rally an otherwise complacent GOP base in the Sunshine State. Or was it a joke? Jeb Bush and his political minions like Katherine Harris have shown us that if anyone thinks what the GOP has done in Florida is funny they have an incredibly sick sense of humor.

http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen1101.html

S.O.S. from MA @ 73

Oklahoma kiddo @ 15

It’s just about time to hit the streets. Or am I being extremely extreme? Is that the same as being radically radical?

Me no thinkee so, O.K. … I see a great many people in a great many places around this Nation paying hommage to the Late Great Molly Ivins by congregating with pots and pans which will be banged together for the benefit of the TV cameras. In such numbers that the demonstrations cannot either be covered up or stopped. And which hopefully will garner the attention of our legislators on both sides of the aisle.

Then after that, if required, the next phase may involve Torches and Pitchforks. Legal Torches and Pitchforks to be sure. /snark

I miss Molly.

ccmask @
72

Anyone see Scott McClellan on Mahr last night? Well, he got booed when he walked out. And right he should. He must have been a plant on the show to come on last night & still push the Bush meme. Booo. Everyone of them were big time, but 11/7 changed everything for them.

He got booed when introduced as well. I found him harder to take than that Frum guy from AEI – who sadly is a Canadian. McC kept up the Bush talking points like a bloody robot and his think skin kept deflecting the boos and mocking laughter directed his way. He was like a Stepford Wife. Dollar Bill smacked him down a few times, though and was applauded voraciously.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 77

Rove is the key. The linchpin. The hub of the spokes. Rove is a must do.

Yes. You are correct.

noen
Amy’s a peach. More than just her campaign, we’ve seen her preside, and her very impressive appearance on Washington Journal.

ES – I think they are optically scanned. (checking)

Oklahoma kiddo @ 82

… I miss Molly.

Sniff… And Ann Richards, and so many others… May their memory, feistiness, crackling wit and example be as a blessing for us.

If the Democrats that now chair the Congressional committees stay determined and follow through on what information they already have in their possession, I think Rove is toast. Still shocked that AGAG lives to fight another day, if the POTUS had any sense (yuck, yuck), he’d be back in TX at this point. The credits are rolling on this nightmare.

Eli @ 71

It seems like they’re all under 40 with dubious degrees and little or no practical experience.

It’s almost as if they were selected using an entirely different set of criteria…

Well I think he graduated from UConn, which is a credible institution. But some of the other stuff, I mean really. His connection with Rowland for instance.
Wanted: US Attorney. Under 40, little or no practical experience, must be a loyal Bushie and follow orders well.

As you know,

Donald H. Segretti (born September 17, 1941 in San Marino, California) was a political operative for the Committee to Re-elect the President (Nixon) during the 1970s. Segretti ran a campaign of dirty tricks (which he dubbed ‘ratfucking’) against the Democrats. His actions were part of the larger Watergate Scandal.
In 1995, he ran for a local judgeship in Orange County, California. However, he quickly withdrew from the race when his campaign awakened lingering anger over his involvement in the Watergate Scandal.

In 2000, Segretti served as co-chair of John McCain’s campaign in Orange County, California.[
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Segretti

hackworth @ 47

The brilliant simplicity of naming a project or organization exactly the opposite of what it is designed to do is Rove werk genius. The opposition (whom is anyone capable of independent thought) must first convince the public that the name corresponds to the polar opposite of its stated intent.

No one wants to believe that! It seems paranoid. Karl’s Voter fraud program is designed to ensure voter fraud. Clear skies are designed to allow more pollution, NCLB is designed to leave children behind, etc. That Rove! What a joker!

All Alice in Wonderland. All the time. The Dems know this now and are working accordingly.

ccmask @ 75

Well, mui, Libby also had two jobs. They said that several times on record.

Well I know he fancied himself an author, what was the other job besides “Cheney’s henchman”?

mui @ 90

ccmask @ 75

Well, mui, Libby also had two jobs. They said that several times on record.

Well I know he fancied himself an author, what was the other job besides “Cheney’s henchman”?

Wasn’t he an aide to both Bush *and* Cheney?

S.O.S. from MA @ 86

Oklahoma kiddo @ 82

… I miss Molly.

Sniff… And Ann Richards, and so many others… May their memory, feistiness, crackling wit and example be as a blessing for us.

And here is to hoping the someone will step up to take their place soon.

mui @ 92

ccmask @ 75

Well, mui, Libby also had two jobs. They said that several times on record.

Well I know he fancied himself an author, what was the other job besides “Cheney’s henchman”?

No, I mean they always said he was busy. He had two jobs. I wonder if they meant it eterally, and Libby got two salaries? He doubled up.

ccmask @ 90

As you know,

Donald H. Segretti (born September 17, 1941 in San Marino, California) was a political operative for the Committee to Re-elect the President (Nixon) during the 1970s. Segretti ran a campaign of dirty tricks (which he dubbed ‘ratfucking’) against the Democrats. His actions were part of the larger Watergate Scandal.
In 1995, he ran for a local judgeship in Orange County, California. However, he quickly withdrew from the race when his campaign awakened lingering anger over his involvement in the Watergate Scandal.

In 2000, Segretti served as co-chair of John McCain’s campaign in Orange County, California.[
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Segretti

Segretti. Now, there’s a nasty piece of work.

TeddySanFran @
42

wow, -ck-, that’s pretty amazing

Seconded

Not nasty enough for McCain, evidently.

And today, the Senate Committee headed by Joe Lieberman called oversight hearings regarding…

Times up. It was a trick question. The answer, of course, is nothing.

lol

At the end of WWII, Nixon was a Naval Intelligence Officer — he deep sixed a report that linked Alan Dulles with a Nazi industrialist.

It was this dirty trick that earned Dulles’ gratitude — Dulles and Prescott Bush helped launch Nixon’s political career.

Oklahoma kiddo @
15

It’s just about time to hit the streets. Or am I being extremely extreme? Is that the same as being radically radical?

You are NOT being extreme! I don’t understand why more of us aren’t! I’ve been out a few times in the SF Bay Area, but it is all pretty anemic.

Recently I was in the heartland on business and did the rude thing of chatting up the 20-something waitress while dining alone with a newspaper in my hotel. I asked her if she paid attention to politics. She said not really, she couldn’t bear to. I asked why and she said that she had several friends who were soldiers in Iraq who were back and had CDs with extremely gruesome photos of the war. She said she was horrified not only at the photographs, but that her friends didn’t find anything odd about showing them to everybody. So, she said, she just couldn’t think about it.

Now I personally have kinda the opposite reaction, but I certainly can put myself in her shoes and see how one would want to be a turtle. In the end, I just told her that when I was her age all my boyfriends were fighting in Vietnam and I just couldn’t understand why people today weren’t rioting in the streets over the outrageous shit that’s going on. She agreed, but avoided me very pleasantly the rest of my time there.

sigh

MODS:I think there is some sockpuppetry going on in an EPU’d thread. (again) Fortune Favors and Bold @116 and 117. Please check out.

lolo

McCain is nastier, because he has power. Nasty power.

O’Connor’s recent activity in CT/USA -

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/ct/press.html

fwiw.

Urban Pirate @ 99

And today, the Senate Committee headed by Joe Lieberman called oversight hearings regarding…

Times up. It was a trick question. The answer, of course, is nothing.

I like to think in two years time, maybe three (all good things to those who wait), HoJoe will be neutralized by a thoroughly Dem Congress and investigated for slush funds/votebuying etc. by a real US attorney, one appointeed by a Dem President.

The Rob Joseph follow up emails — my response:

Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:30 PM

Subject: The Texas BP

Dear Mr Joseph –

Thank you for your thoughtful note on the Texas Blueprint. You are the first person that responded to it’s publication.

As far as I know, no one in the DNC has pursued any of this. The Texas BP was originally written as a way to pitch the story to journalists, but a friend at http://www.democrats.com (no connections with the DNC) helped revise it for publication. Did you see it at Online Journal, or democrats.com?

I’ve corresponded with several journalists about this, but none have chosen to follow up on my research. One problem is that the evidence is thin, and circumstantial at best. One reporter at the Washington Post told me the cost / benefit of working on this makes it unattactive to most journalists — i.e., it is too much work, with too little upside benefit for their careers.

In the wake of the Trent Lott affair, the story should have some salience; it remains to be seen if anyone continues the investigation.

Another article that relates to the ongoing GOP efforts to disenfranchise minority voters was published recently in the American Prospect. “The New Poll Tax” was written by Laughlin McDonald, an ACLU attorney who I spoke with 9 months ago. He was involved with the NAACP/ACLU lawsuit on this issue. The Rachel Berry report is the basis of part of his research.

Again, thanks for writing. Any suggestions you might have for further development of this story would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Charles Knutson

ps: I am busy, but just with my regular job. This is an issue I’ve worked on occasionally since I first read about the Florida Felon Purge in Salon & The Nation.(Greg Palast’s “Floridas Disappeared Voters’)

======

The New Poll Tax

http://www.prospect.org/print/…..ald-l.html

Months later, Rob Joseph responded”

Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 00:44:52 -0400
From: “Rob Joseph”
Subject: RE: The Texas BP

Dear Mr. Knutson,

My most sincere apologies for not replying to you sooner.

After months of soul searching, I’m ashamed to admit, but I’ve totally given up on our ‘democracy’ – too much stress – God put us on this planet to enjoy its beauty and to learn how to live in love – this whole thing is surreal…

I’m moving to the Caribbean, I am completely finished with the rat race!

Thank you for replying and thank you for caring. We need more people like you and less like me.

Best of luck in all that you do,

Rob Joseph

It was much later that I learned of Robert Joseph’s role in the 16 words, and put two and two together.

mui @ 104

I like to think in two years time, maybe three (all good things to those who wait), HoJoe will be neutralized by a thoroughly Dem Congress and investigated for slush funds/votebuying etc. by a real US attorney, one appointeed by a Dem President.

I really hope Reid tells Joe to go fuck himself next time. No committee seats at all, much less a chair. But I don’t think it’s going to happen – I think the leadership are all genuinely fond of him, for some reason.

You’ve got to check out this tell-all interview by a senior, veteran Justice Department official on the non-partisan Law.com site:

http://www.law.com/servlet/Con…..LawArticle

My favorite excerpt proving, from someone who has experienced it all firsthand and really knows, that Republicans are more corrupt than Democrats. Like we needed someone to tell us this after Nixon, Reagan (record smashing 29 convicted criminals in his Administration), Bush Sr. (pardoned Cap Weinberger and five others because their testimony under oath showed Daddy Bush himself was right in the middle of the Iran Contra scandal), and of course Baby Bush (2 convicted criminals so far and counting, and a ton of cronyism and corruption).

-ck- @ 105

After months of soul searching, I’m ashamed to admit, but I’ve totally given up on our ‘democracy’ – too much stress – God put us on this planet to enjoy its beauty and to learn how to live in love – this whole thing is surreal…

I’m moving to the Caribbean, I am completely finished with the rat race!

Thank you for replying and thank you for caring. We need more people like you and less like me.

Wow.

Blank Kludge @ 105

O’Connor’s recent activity in CT/USA -

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/ct/press.html

fwiw.

Hmmm. That link is definitely worth a bookmark.

ccmask @ 80

Loo Hoo @ 77

ccmask @
25

I remember hearing that Rove was tech-savy. I wonder if he learned it at one of the 6 colleges he attended, without a degree, I might add.

Do tell.

Well, if you google karl.rove@ you get a link to this:
In many respects, however, the apprentice Rove has far exceeded the chicanery and evil-mindedness of his mentor Segretti. Rove is a tech-savvy puppet master for Bush. Take, for example, last June’s discovery of a “lost” CD-ROM in Lafayette Park across from the White House. Contained on the CD was a PowerPoint presentation given by White House political director Ken Mehlman to Rove on the strategy for next Tuesday’s off-year election. The slide show showed First Brother Jeb Bush being vulnerable in Florida. Jeb Bush later joked that the disc was part of a plot cooked up by him and his brother to make it appear that he was vulnerable in order to rally an otherwise complacent GOP base in the Sunshine State. Or was it a joke? Jeb Bush and his political minions like Katherine Harris have shown us that if anyone thinks what the GOP has done in Florida is funny they have an incredibly sick sense of humor.

http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen1101.html

Man, you say some ugly names there, pal. I just ate! Thanks for the info.

Eli @ 110

-ck- @ 105

After months of soul searching, I’m ashamed to admit, but I’ve totally given up on our ‘democracy’ – too much stress – God put us on this planet to enjoy its beauty and to learn how to live in love – this whole thing is surreal…

I’m moving to the Caribbean, I am completely finished with the rat race!

Thank you for replying and thank you for caring. We need more people like you and less like me.

Wow.

The Caribbean? I left my heart in Roatan. ;0)

-ck- @ 100

At the end of WWII, Nixon was a Naval Intelligence Officer — he deep sixed a report that linked Alan Dulles with a Nazi industrialist.

It was this dirty trick that earned Dulles’ gratitude — Dulles and Prescott Bush helped launch Nixon’s political career.

Say it ain’t so…

-ck- @ 107

It was much later that I learned of Robert Joseph’s role in the 16 words, and put two and two together.

That is really intriguing.

ck – Wow. Just wow!

ck,

you’ve blown my mind three times ‘ere sundown

this is starting to seem pre-ordained….

Eli @ 108

mui @ 104

I really hope Reid tells Joe to go fuck himself next time. No committee seats at all, much less a chair. But I don’t think it’s going to happen – I think the leadership are all genuinely fond of him, for some reason.

They need to come down to earth. I mean Reid. I think investigating all that missing cash might supply the jolt. Because HoJoe is not a nice person, as they keep on telling themselves. He’s a dirty corrupt slushfunding thug hiring creep.

I wanna go where the trade winds blow.

Eureka Springs @
76

smapdi @ 65

ES- Just leave Oregon alone for now.

I thought OR hand counted paper ballots.

This true though KKKarl dipped in yesterday to suck up the repukes. Whose tab was this dinner on.

Oops messed up pyramid @118.

Eli @ 109

-ck- @ 105

After months of soul searching, I’m ashamed to admit, but I’ve totally given up on our ‘democracy’ – too much stress – God put us on this planet to enjoy its beauty and to learn how to live in love – this whole thing is surreal…

I’m moving to the Caribbean, I am completely finished with the rat race!

Thank you for replying and thank you for caring. We need more people like you and less like me.

Wow.

No wonder he left, he was in possession of a conscience. A fatal condition in politics these days.

kirk murphy @ 117

ck,

you’ve blown my mind three times ‘ere sundown

this is starting to seem pre-ordained….

Yes, but I thought he went by Bob JOseph. He left the CIA?

noen @ 120

No wonder he left, he was in possession of a conscience. A fatal condition in politics these days.

Too bad he left without speaking out. Kinda like Matt Dowd. They probably all have to take a vow of silence or something.

-ck- @ 101

At the end of WWII, Nixon was a Naval Intelligence Officer — he deep sixed a report that linked Alan Dulles with a Nazi industrialist.

It was this dirty trick that earned Dulles’ gratitude — Dulles and Prescott Bush helped launch Nixon’s political career.

Absolutely fascinating. It ties in with the film “JFK II” that someone in a different web community recently recommended (Compressed Google Video URL: http://tinyurl.com/3a7fzj ). As I said then, “Even if only HALF of what it alleges is true, our country is in mortal peril. … A measure of how convincing this movie was to me, is that I’m frankly scared to post these thoughts. But I am an American patriot and I must.” The film runs ~90min, takes awhile to D/L even with cable, but is imho well worth a watch.

Eli @ 123

noen @ 120

No wonder he left, he was in possession of a conscience. A fatal condition in politics these days.

Too bad he left without speaking out. Kinda like Matt Dowd. They probably all have to take a vow of silence or something.

You don’t suppose that he was afraid to speak out?

Question on the restoration of public faith in the rule of law: is there any practical possibility that Patrick Fitzgerald might be asked to head the cleanout of the Augean Stable? And if he were, and he agreed to become AG, would he be able to accomplish it?

It seems as though he’s one of the few with the standing to carry both parties (Bushites excepted).

Loo Hoo @ 124

You don’t suppose that he was afraid to speak out?

It’s possible. I’m sure they would have been calling him a child molester within 48 hours.

Look at where America is. We can thank our stars that we elected a democratic congress. I can’t bear to think what America would look like if we had not.

At least we have hope that we can save our constitution and our country.

We cannot ever, ever, let the likes of Karl Rove, George Bush and Richard Cheney come to power again.

Can’t believe they still let Rove out!

http://www.komoradio.com/news/local/7029367.html

Oklahoma kiddo @ 130

We cannot ever, ever, let the likes of Karl Rove, George Bush and Richard Cheney come to power again.

Nor any of their winged monkeys.

jane_jericho @
127

Question on the restoration of public faith in the rule of law: is there any practical possibility that Patrick Fitzgerald might be asked to head the cleanout of the Augean Stable? And if he were, and he agreed to become AG, would he be able to accomplish it?

It seems as though he’s one of the few with the standing to carry both parties (Bushites excepted).

We can but dream, or to say another way, from your lips to God’s ears.

At the Conference on World Affairs on Thursday, Joe Wilson gave a really powerful presentation; he gave major props to Marcy and Jane and FireDogLake. I bought two copies of his presentation,for Jane & Marcy.

Joe Wilson asked if anyone knew who put the 16 words in the SOTU speech — I almost raised my hand, but it took a minute to remember Robert Joseph’s name. Joe Wilson said that Robert Joseph has since left government, with a cloud of suspicion following him.

Speaking of the Conference on World Affairs, in 2002 I sent an email to Jerry Politex of BushWatch, saying I was going to the CWA to give a British Journalist some dirt** on the Bush Family. That night, my tires were shanked and my front and back windshield were smashed — that Karl Rove gets around.

** The Bush Family Nazi business dealings — Prescott was the American manager of the company that provided raw materials to the factories at Auschwitz — see Toby Rogers, Heir to the Holocaust.

Abu must be cramming them footnotes of his on index cards and studying in front of a mirror by now….

Oklahoma kiddo @ 130

We cannot ever, ever, let the likes of Karl Rove, George Bush and Richard Cheney come to power again.

I agree with damn near everything you say, but are you still mad at me about Chomsky?

Child molester?

W/apologies to C.Daniels: Go to DC via Little Rock…

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/dc/Press_Releases/2007 Archives/Apr_2007/07-104.html

Taylor

Arkansas man arrested after traveling to Washington, D.C. to have sex
with 10-and 11-year-old children during on-line undercover operation

With an assist from Griffin, perhaps?

Oklahoma kiddo @ 130

We cannot ever, ever, let the likes of Karl Rove, George Bush and Richard Cheney come to power again.

To really prevent that, you’d better be prepared to impeach 5 current members of the Supreme Court.

dakine01 @ 133

jane_jericho @
127

Question on the restoration of public faith in the rule of law: is there any practical possibility that Patrick Fitzgerald might be asked to head the cleanout of the Augean Stable? And if he were, and he agreed to become AG, would he be able to accomplish it?

It seems as though he’s one of the few with the standing to carry both parties (Bushites excepted).

We can but dream, or to say another way, from your lips to God’s ears.

Amen

Bill Maher
“President shit-for-brains”

love it.

Eli @ 128

Loo Hoo @ 124

You don’t suppose that he was afraid to speak out?

It’s possible. I’m sure they would have been calling him a child molester within 48 hours.

Yes, I am looking at the CT US attorney site, and wondering what is true and what is not. It’s amazing what Abu’s DoJ has done to public trust.

Blank Kludge @ 137

Child molester?

W/apologies to C.Daniels: Go to DC via Little Rock…

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/dc/Press_Releases/2007 Archives/Apr_2007/07-104.html

Taylor

Arkansas man arrested after traveling to Washington, D.C. to have sex
with 10-and 11-year-old children during on-line undercover operation

With an assist from Griffin, perhaps?

Isn’t that a song….”How ya gonna keep em down on the farm, after they’ve seen DC”?

rxbusa @ 136

Oklahoma kiddo @ 130

We cannot ever, ever, let the likes of Karl Rove, George Bush and Richard Cheney come to power again.

I agree with damn near everything you say, but are you still mad at me about Chomsky?

Absolutely not. My friend. ;0)

lolo @ 123

kirk murphy @ 117

ck,

you’ve blown my mind three times ‘ere sundown

this is starting to seem pre-ordained….

Yes, but I thought he went by Bob Joseph. He left the CIA?

Robert Joseph worked in the White House, on the National Security Council. He was a hard core neocon, and a Rove acolyte — although he did work for the government during the Clinton Administration. (A Bush41 holdover, I believe.)

I’m not 100% convinced that Rob Joseph and Robert Joseph are the same person — but the way the Mayberry Machiavellis operate, I think it’s a safe bet.

From TPM’s keyboard to the NYT’s LinoType (or whatever the h*ll they use these days):

Sunday New York Times editorial on “voting fraud”.

Oh. Carribean? Rat Race?
http://www.mp3lyrics.org/b/bob-marley/rat-race/

Ah! Ya too rude
Oh what a rat race
Oh what a rat race
This is the rat race

Some a lawful, some a bastard, some a jacket
Oh what a rat race, rat race

Some a gorgan, some a hooligan, some a guine-gog
In this rat race, yeah!
Rat race
I’m singing
When the cats away
The mice will play
Political voilence fill ya city
Yea-ah!
Don’t involve Rasta in your say say
Rasta don’t work for no C.I.A.
Rat race, rat race, rat race
When you think is peace and safety
A sudden destruction
Collective security for surety
Yeah!

snip

noen @
31

Oklahoma kiddo @ 28

ccmask @ 25

I remember hearing that Rove was tech-savy. I wonder if he learned it at one of the 6 colleges he attended, without a degree, I might add.

Karl is such a smarty pants. Eight years in college, and nothing.

He was working the system. There is a word for that but it escapes me right now…. oh, “professional student”. That’s it.

As I recall, he was spending all his time running for president of the College Republicans, or getting his cronies elected.

The College Republicans are the bicycle with training wheels for the Republican dirty tricksters….

allan_in_upstate @ 145

From TPM’s keyboard to the NYT’s LinoType (or whatever the h*ll they use these days):

Sunday New York Times editorial on “voting fraud”.

OUCH! 707

Catherine Austin Fitts, former Assistant Secretary at HUD and past Managing Director at Dillon, Reed called Enron the biggest money laundering operation in America’s history.

I wonder what Lay had to say to the Bush White House before he died in 1906.

allan_in_upstate @ 138

Oklahoma kiddo @ 130

We cannot ever, ever, let the likes of Karl Rove, George Bush and Richard Cheney come to power again.

To really prevent that, you’d better be prepared to impeach 5 current members of the Supreme Court.

Scalia – IIRC – publicly discloses his strong views on controversial political topics. When cases on the topic come before him, he does not recuse himself- he rules in accordance with his previously stated opinions.

Impeachment?

Wasn’t Coulter in trouble for voter fraud?

Pach has a shiny new thread upstairs

kirk murphy @ 150

allan_in_upstate @ 138

Oklahoma kiddo @ 130

We cannot ever, ever, let the likes of Karl Rove, George Bush and Richard Cheney come to power again.

To really prevent that, you’d better be prepared to impeach 5 current members of the Supreme Court.

Scalia – IIRC – publicly discloses his strong views on controversial political topics. When cases on the topic come before him, he does not recuse himself- he rules in accordance with his previously stated opinions.

I believe one of Scalia’s son’s worked on Bush v. Gore
(you can imagine on which side) and Scalia still didn’t recuse himself.
Overall, a very classy guy.

If Ken Lay is dead I’m santa.

-ck- @ 37 says:

I bring this up, because it suggests the Karl Rove Krew used a variety of email accounts, beyond the RNC and gwb43.com.

Worth repeating.

The REAL dirt is not on RNC servers…the REAL dirt is much to dirty to hide under a sign saying “Look Here”; the REAL dirt is much too dirty to entrust with mere Republican worker bees.

ccmask @ 154

If Ken Lay is dead I’m santa.

Ken Lay lives!

…with Elvis

Thanks, Eli, for helping me understand the loss of techie vote.

I think we need to demand that all WH employees who used RNC accounts should return all monies paid to them from taxpayer dollars. The RNC should pay them since it appears they are working for the RNC rather than for the people of the USofA. I want my money back. Just think get those tax dollars back and use it to help the soldiers who have been injured in Iraq.

lolo @ 59

-ck- @ 37

When The Texas Blueprint for the Stolen Election was published in late 2002, I only received one email in response:

Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 12:52:19 -0500
From: “Rob Joseph”

Subject: Texas Blueprint for the Stolen Election

Dear Mr. Knutson,

I read your article titled ‘Texas Blueprint for the Stolen Election’ and want to thank you for an excellent synopsis.

I am curious though, given that it’s obvious that the illegal RNC tactics cost the DNC the Presidency, what is the DNC doing about it?

I know you are very busy but I am really concerned about this and if you can carve out a moment to reply, I would be most grateful to you.

With deep respect,

Rob Joseph

Note the formal and solicitous tone of the email, and the curiosity about the DNC.

This was sent from a simplifyandconnect.com email account; a follow up email 6 months later was from a prepaidlegal.com email account, which is associated with the simplify and connect website.

The significance of this? Robert Joseph was on the NSC staff, and was responsible for the 16 words on Niger yellowcake in the SOTU speech.

I bring this up, because it suggests the Karl Rove Krew used a variety of email accounts, beyond the RNC and gwb43.com.

You mean all these?

http://www.robtex.com/dns/gwb43.com.html

The Robtex link at the bottom of your post is amazing. This is fertile info. Various sites are really buried in layers. Thank you.

FWIW, the Robert Joseph of the 16 words inserted in the SOTU speech didn’t leave the government until late January of this year. See this bio:

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1235

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Question on the restoration of public faith in the rule of law: is there any practical possibility that Patrick Fitzgerald might be asked to head the cleanout of the Augean Stable? And if he were, and he agreed to become AG, would he be able to accomplish it?

It seems as though he’s one of the few with the standing to carry both parties (Bushites excepted).

Don’t count of Fitz to do jackshit. He knew or should have known about the destroyed emails for more than a year.

Back in February of 2006, I reported on the Plame-gate prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald’s efforts to resist Scooter Libby’s demand for production of all the documents that Fitzgerald had reviewed, including highly classified documents. Scooter’s lawyers claim to need the documents to fight charges of perjury and lying to the FBI.

A (New York) Daily News article at the time said, “Fitzgerald, who is fighting Libby’s request, said in a letter to Libby’s lawyers that many e-mails from Cheney’s office at the time of the Plame leak in 2003 have been deleted contrary to White House policy.”

You can read the post at “Nixon blamed his secretary, Rosemary Woods. Who will Cheney blame?”

Please visit the Schapira blog, “What we know so far …

“… and tell ’em Big Mitch sent ya!”

Hey Eli—there’s a haiku with your name on it at 2:08fdl in late nite.

There is way more to this than what we even know. SSA Civil Rights Attorneys in Baltimore Maryland have been reported to the Bar possibly covering for as many as FIVE Judges, many at regional or appeals level within that administration. The entire Justice system is being taken down by Gonzo. I am helping prove it because I will not tolerate supreme Americans having more rights and say than I do.

Nothing Improper
WashingtonPost, by Alberto R. Gonzales

Sunday, April 15, 2007; B07

My decision some months ago to privately seek the resignations of a small number of U.S. attorneys has erupted into a public firestorm. First and foremost, I appreciate the public service of these fine lawyers and dedicated professionals, each of whom served his or her full four-year term as U.S. attorney. I apologize to them, their families and the thousands of dedicated professionals at the Justice Department for my role in allowing this matter to spin into an undignified Washington spectacle…

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Nothing Improper

MAL Contends -
(http://malcontends.blogspot.com/)

has the definitive knockdown on US Atty Biskupic’s Saturday’s statement reacting to news that he is listed on the DoJ hitlist document.

The man is no political monk.
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Smoking gun needed? I think we may just have one, thanks to other top-notch reporting and analysis by TPM. Not Biskupic, but Iglesias. But hey, with eight (or very likely nine) or nine dead bodies (or at least dead US Attorney careers), there’ll be plenty of smoking guns to go around before all this is over.