Mr. Grossman, what are the chances you’d go after Barbara Boxer, who so brazenly lied after claiming she’d “support the nominee of Connecticut Democrats” and then proceeded to not support Ned Lamont one bit in that state?

I’d definitely like to see her brought down. I have no use for “progressives” who lie like that.

Senator Boxer is about as good as we are going to get, and her record is quite good. Check her record on the Progressive Punch site noted above. Ned Lamont is infinitely better than Lie-er-,man. No question about that.

Consider the possibility that Sen. Boxer did not lie per se. Perhaps there was some unfortunate “reason” that constrained her vote. Before bringing her down, try to get her staff to give an explanation for her vote.

No working system is 100% efficient. Compare pottery made by the Chinese, who seek perfection, and the Japanese who realizing perfection is unattainable use “imperfections” to add beauty to the pottery. The only way to ensure that you don’t make a mistake is to not do any work. If you don’t accept the pottery analogy, I may have to use the Second Law of Thermodynamics and Entropy production to make this point.

Well they lied about being elected so…

From: OpEdNews

Original Content at http://www.opednews.com/articl…..ief_22.htm

April 8, 2007

“Commander ‘N Thief”- Explosive new documentary presents evidence of fraud in 2004 election

By Press Release

Explosive New Documentary Presents Evidence of Fraud in 2004 Ohio Presidential Election

Investigative journalist Greg Palast, author of the current best-selling Armed Madhouse and of The Best Democracy Money Can Buy, introduces the documentary and also provides staggering information in the body of the film about the RNC’s purposeful and targeted strategies for disenfranchising millions of minority voters across the United States, including African-American soldiers serving in Iraq.

Others appearing include Congressman John Conyers, Jr.; attorneys Cliff Arnebeck, John Bonifaz, Robert Fitrakis, Joseph Geller, Peter Peckarsky and Susan Truitt; President/CEO of Common Cause Chellie Pingree; computer science expert Professor Avi Rubin of Johns Hopkins and Richard Hayes Phillips, Ph.D., the leading public-advocacy investigator of voting fraud in the 2004 Ohio presidential election; statistical expert Professor Steven Freeman, Ph.D. of the University of Pennsylvania; consumer advocate against electronic voting Bev Harris; Franklin County, Ohio Director of Elections Matthew Damschroeder; and Ohio poll workers, concerned citizens, and community activists.

In addition to the RNC’s nationwide campaign to disenfranchise American citizens from targeted minority groups, several other clearly fraudulent activities are identified: 3,600,780 votes were cast for president but never counted; in Ohio, forensic evidence has been uncovered of ballot switching in selected rural precincts and of double punched ballots used to invalidate legitimate votes in specific urban precincts; and there is strong statistical evidence that as many as five million votes nationally were shifted, subtracting five million votes from Kerry and adding five million votes to Bush to produce a swing of up to ten million votes in the officially reported result.

The outcome of this series of sickening schemes is that the wrong candidate was sworn in as President of the United States. The evidence presented in this documentary, “Commander ‘N Thief,” should be seen as a warning that our democracy is now in peril and that ordinary citizens must act quickly and forcefully to restore honesty, transparency and verifiability to the American electoral system.

The documentary also cites the absence of any comprehensive or sustained media investigation or coverage of the evidence of serious election-day problems and, with the notable exceptions of Greg Palast (BBC, Guardian/Observer) and Keith Olbermann (MSNBC), there has been no significant attention paid to this unsettling story in the national media.

Former U.S. Senator, Ambassador and 1972 presidential candidate George McGovern provides a powerful closing statement for the documentary pointing to the need for citizen action to insure a transparent, accessible, easy-to-use and entirely verifiable voting system that will protect and preserve our democracy over the long future.

http://www.commander-n-thief.com/

Hi Kathryn,

I have high hopes for it eventually…
:)

The Google groups are a good beginning too. I like them.

joshua grossman @ 90

Kathryn in MA, is there anybody doing what you consider to be a great job of creating social networks that empower people, not necessarily around politics at all? I’d also invite anyone else to throw in their two cents on this.

I believe this might fit the bill:
http://www.staterootsproject.org/

As soon as it’s ready that is. :) Seems to be having some glitches lately, but it’s still in Beta.

Right! actually MA pups used the original site and still use the google email list to keep in touch!

Any thoughts on how to help find a good progressive candidate for the up-coming Marty Meehan opening?

Realworld, I commented on that further up the thread. I agree that there’s room to illuminate the records of the various office holders there. Some are clearly more progressive than others.

Kathryn in MA, is there anybody doing what you consider to be a great job of creating social networks that empower people, not necessarily around politics at all? I’d also invite anyone else to throw in their two cents on this.

I believe this might fit the bill:
http://www.staterootsproject.org/

As soon as it’s ready that is. :) Seems to be having some glitches lately, but it’s still in Beta.

We hope you’ll be back in the future. Joshua.

As long as I have Howie Klein the hellraiser to inspire me and courageous Jane Hamsher to remind me to seize every day and make the most of it, you can count on having me out there — Progressively Punching and Progressively Kicking! It’s been a pleasure to field such thoughtful comments and questions. I urge people to keep them coming in the future and to stay abreast of our work. We’ll keep you posted — pun partially intended ;)