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I'm not sure if this has been proven yet or not…but I came across this the other day.
In a nutshell, MSN hosts an "Artist Of The Month" poll and this month some savvy Nine Inch Nails fans thought there might be something fishy going on. How, they wondered, could it possibly be that their beloved NIN would be losing an internet popularity poll to a relatively "unknown" band called The Bravery? NIN's fans pride themselves on their ability to mobilize swiftly online. I think the poll is rather silly, the other artists that you can vote for are Avril Lavigne and Patti Smith. But I don't like the idea of a record label stinking up an internet poll that fans are really trying to win. Stuff like this is really important to fans.
I originally thought, yeah who are The Bravery anyway??? Never heard of ‘em. What a scam. Another example of election stealing. Of course Nine Inch Nails would have more votes. They have way more blogs, chat rooms, ‘registered' fans (whatever that means) and albums. But then I dug in deeper and did my own investigating (went to I-Tunes) and low and behold The Bravery are now on their second record. I click on the first three songs and they sounded vaguely familiar. I'd heard them somewhere before on a TV commercial or the radio. Hence the hole in the "fabulous fraud exposé" that I was going to bring you all this week. The Bravery are pretty big, with well over a million profile views on their MySpace page, lots of videos up on YouTube, etc… but bigger than Nine Inch Nails???
So if Geffen Records did rig this poll, which is still a strong possibility, shame on them. But whatever the outcome, good for Nine Inch Nails fans for questioning what they thought was jive and going after it. Then again, this whole thing might also mean that we're all getting a little older and just haven't heard of The Bravery yet. Until now.
On a sad note, the former home of Johnny Cash and June Carter burnt to the ground this week; that beautiful house on the lake where so much great music was created.
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
The only proof he needed for the existence of God was music."
-Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country
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Someone explain me the meaning of ‘Zed’
RIP, Kurt!
I saw Charlie Louvin the other night – you should definitely go see him in LA – I guess he’s doing an in-store at Amoeba on Sunday. That night I think he’s playing in San Diego. Among the Louvin Bros. songs he did was “Great Atomic Power.”
Thanks for the Cash. I confess I’m relieved not to be watching Lee Hazelwood.
deGastignan @ 0
Zed’s dead baby.
Donita, it could be slow on the thread today, as the Dept of Justice document dump has folks really hyped.
What DoJ doc dump? I just woke up a little while ago after a late night.
There will be no more breakfast of champions, for the brave or otherwise. One of history’s greatest literary voices has been silenced.
Peterr @ 5
Slow’s my middle name baby. Thanks for the heads up Peterr.
FEMA just announced they are throwing away 40 million $ worth of MRE (meals ready to eat) for lack of storage…
So, what about Darfur????
deGastignan @
1
First comments on a new post will initially show as post zero/0/zed for anyone who arrived at the new post prior to comments showing.
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @ 6
DOJ and the White House turned over another big batch of emails and documents to the House Judiciary committee. They’re posting them as pdfs on their website, and folks here, at TPM, and elsewhere are digging through them, looking for the goods on Team Rover.
Check out the last couple of threads . . . they’ve been smoking.
JEP @ 9
‘Crimes Against Humanity’ pt. infinitum.
deGastignan @
1
….shorthand for rock legends “Zed Leppelin”
deGastignan @ 1
Congratulations deGastignan!
Zed, before fdl re-invention, meant Z which is the first letter of Zero.
Somebody got excited one day and announced they got the Zed and the rest is history.
If anyone wants to cast a vote for Avril, here’s a link to the poll.
http://music.msn.com/music/artistofthemonth
dakine01 @ 10
egregious @ 14
Thanks. New to the Lake and curiosity was killing me.
Donita,
That story about the fire at the Cash’s home is so sad. Thanks for sharing the news, despite the sorrow.
But that got me to wondering . . . where do you do your writing?
deGastignan @ 16
Welcome!
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @
4
if you wanna be a junkie, remember: Zeddy’s dead.
deGastignan @ 1
Try this site for web “slang”;
http://www.urbandictionary.com/
(It helps—)
Donita Sparks @
15
Is there an option to vote against her? I’ll gladly follow that link.
egregious! and where in the world are you this fine document dump day?
newspaperbrat @ 22
reading reading reading READING!!!! reading and well we did have a productive day at the hospital. But now it’s evening and I can relax and pour thru documents. Life is good.
Ah. Just voted for NIN. Feel much better now.
If i didn’t have to work, i’d be on this thing for once. But every time the docu dump happens? I’m prepping for work or something else. *sighs*
Great work, those of you combing through all of it!
Ha, I just casted a vote for Patti Smith and the current standings are hilarious. NIN fans have taken the lead with 96%. Here’s another link about their “bot war” with Geffen.
http://idolator.com/tunes/nine…..bloody-web bot-battleground-250696.php
On this band The Bravery, as I told Donita when putting this together this week, I am firmly in the skeptical camp on this poll controversy. In this day and age where you can astroturf fake popularity via MySpace page view counts, rigged polls and other methods, it is very easy for a large label to boost it’s artists supposed popularity by having a street team of the band’s fans repeatedly voting for their band using multiple profiles to register multiple votes from one fan.
I’ve heard a couple of their songs in commercials too, but I’ve not heard them on broadcast or satellite radio much and despite being an obsessive music fan who spends inordinate amounts of time on music websites and keeping an eye on the biz for a living I simply did not know who these folks were until recently. Maybe I am getting old and less “hip”, but this whole thing smells like a propaganda campaign from Geffen.
I’m amazed Patti is still alive.
My Mom Said I Could
How about a little Afternoon Humor!
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radiofreewill @ 28
That ain’t even right at all! I LOVE it!
Peterr @ 17
In the living room of my lair mostly. When I sing my cats gather at my feet. I don’t know if that’s good or bad but I like it.
Ever since Geffen sued Neil Young in the 80’s for not sounding enough like Neil Young, I’ve made sure to not buy or support anything that label puts out.
deGastignan @
16
de nada.
Fini: Well, it’s not like Geffen hasn’t pulled stunts like these in the past…
And mc gives exhibit a about Geffen…
He was way too indulgent with artists who didn’t deserve it (Guns n Roses being a big example), and way too hard on some who deserved better from him.
Donita
really nice to see this clip. they really had chemistry. Love the kiss at the end. The movie didn’t do it for me.
mc @ 32
More please, that sounds entertaining.
Donita Sparks @ 30
In the living room of my lair mostly. When I sing my cats gather at my feet. I don’t know if that’s good or bad but I like it.
My cats do the same thing, I think they equate to the human version of a meow.
Artist/Band: Cash Rosanne
Lyrics for Song: House On The Lake
Lyrics for Album: Black Cadillac
Well, I miss the sounds of Tennessee
And the smell of heavy rain
The roses in the garden
Laugh before the pain
But I hear his voice close in my ear
I see her smile and wave
I blink and while my eyes are closed
They both have gone away
Blue bare room, the wood and nails
There’s nothing left to take
But love and years are not for sale
In our old house on the lake
Well, I’m goin’ down to New Orleans
‘Cause we both are sinkin’ fast
And I’ll stare into the Bourbon moon
We’ll see how long we last
But I hear his voice
I follow down the velvet undertow
Back to the place where I was born
Back to my southern home
Blue bare room, the wood and nails
There’s nothing left to take
But love and years are not for sale
In our old house on the lake
In our old house on the lake
In our old house
deGastignan @ 1
The first “Zed” was for Ned.
If I recall correctly…
Can anyone with super FDL archive search skills confirm? If not, no worries. There’s probably more important work to be done.
Donita Sparks @
31
That’s a lovely picture! I think it’s good.
OT – Corzine presser on CNN…
This is her singing it
House on the Lake
I like my cat too much to torture it needlessly.
*g*
I can’t carry a tune in a bucket.
hey donita!
if 2 presidential elections can be rigged, why not an internet band popularity poll?!??! arrrgh!
LOVE the johnny cash clip! sad about their home….
love,
nora
p.s. your show last week at spaceland was amazing! thank you!
Valley Girl, you lurking/moderating out there?
Gillian Welch and David Rawlings do a fun cover of Jackson
Jackson
Bustednuckles @
44
I resemble that remark. My companion is laying across the top of my chair; I have to move his feet to sit halfway comfortably…
I can sing harmony/backup or I can sing blues as a lead. I usually sing along to tunes to keep those chops up in case I ever join a band again someday. The cats are really curious about what I am doing when I do this so they come running to make sure daddy isn’t having a heart attack or something, then they stay for the show like a good little audience.
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @ 49
Stray cat blues!
T- @ 46
OK, I’ll fess up. I may have started the Zed thing in a burst of Lamont enthusiasm…
The only time I’ve sung publicly was as a backup singer to fill in when a musician boyfriend was in a terrible, terrible bind.
And there was that occasion when I did a karaoke for “Stray Cat Strut” that brought down the house apparently. Too bad I was too bombed to remember any of it!
I could have sworn I just finished reading a fantastic post by Marcy speculating about Fitz and the RNC emails. Then it vanished. Was I dreaming?
Slightly OT but related by several tangents. Plus its the funniest thing I’ve seen in a long time…
Since Johnny Cash did a heartbreaking rendition of NIN’s Hurt, I thought you might like to see another cover of that song…
Sad Kermit: Hurt
(WARNING: Slightly NSFW with one usage of the S word, and puppets simulating doing Many Very Bad Things)
ralphbon @ 53
Maybe, maybe not.
It could be that she posted something, then saw a huge boo-boo in there, or wanted to add something else before posting, and pulled it before anyone could comment.
punaise, I’d love to have that confirmed.
I remember it a little differently…it could be my only lasting contribution here at the lake!
I know it pisses egregious off to no end and it would really be great lift that burden off my conscious. You know, to know for sure that you are responsible for that egregious error and not me. ;)
Artist of the month……………..? DONITA SPARKS!!! I heard you brought the house down last week. Sorry I missed it. Next time.
Sid
ralphbon @ 52
It could be that she is scheduled to post it later and accidentally published early, realized what happened and unpublished it until it is due to run in the schedule here.
My grandfather’s house was burned down by a forest fire Johnny Cash started. When he was drunk! Payback sucks.
Tommy
You rang?
T- For the record I think Zed is cute.
It definitely doesn’t make me angry. People stealing from a children’s hospital for their offshore accounts, or ruining a perfectly good 200 year old democracy, don’t get me started.
Wonder what “gold bars” is doing trying to get out in front of this Rove/RNC e-mail discrepancy? Seems like he’s drawing a little more attention to that potential scandal than bushco normally likes…muss be sumpthin’ to see here.
Umm, I think Fitz had better hang onto those frequent guest points at his DC place. The job just keeps growing…
bilge @ 54
That is wrong.
So wrong.
On so many levels.
Zed, is, among other things, how the letter “Z” is supposed to be pronounced…….
But a god called Page named a band with an alliterative connection.
I was there in the Albert Hall when he, Clapton and Beck jointly played the solos of Stairway to Heaven and Layla — Layla did not come off so well, ‘cos no slide, but S to Hvn was just that!
hi donita! nice post…
johnny cash home nine inch nails = great video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO9dbmJ_2zU
As a lead vocalist, it is easier for me to play rhythm guitar than lead. I personally know a bass player or two that can sing while playing intricate bass lines. To me, that’s as difficult as rubbing your tummy and patting yourself on the head simultaneously.
Sting can do it. Geddy Lee, the former Phil Lynott of Thin Lizzy, Paul McCartney, are all good bass players that can sing and play at the same time.
OMG. I’m in the Docudump thing, and one of the signatories to a letter complaining about Lam is… You guessed it. Duke Cunningham. Unreal.
We are also seeing why there was an nice attempt to muddy the waters about bloggers too….
Bloggers, techies, computer geeks…all crazy…crazy leftists…can’t be trusted..especially the ones who are called into to do forensic recovery.
-GSD
And Doolittle, too! Hm. Methinks I smell a setup here.
LJ/Aquaria @ 67
Who could have anticipated . . .
Is Luskin saying in this interview that Fitz had Rove’s laptops and blackberries back in late 2004?
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITI…..index.html
“The prosecutor probing the Valerie Plame spy case saw and copied all of Rove’s e-mails from his various accounts after searching Rove’s laptop, his home computer, and the handheld computer devices he used for both the White House and Republican National Committee, Luskin said.”
—
If so, the chances that the 2005/2006 USAtty firings e-mails are out there is virtually certain – either that, or Rove plans to hang the sloppy law enforcement work on Fitz?
If Fitz had a listing of all those RNC domains and accounts back in ‘04, then he would have put them under surveillance, right?
As I understand it, the house burnt itself down on learning that its new owner was Barry Gibb of the BeeGees. Seriously!
Ok, grege. Wish I could do more to help you guys and gals save the children and our democracy.
Glad to know we’re not causing you undue stress with the zed malapropism.
Punaise and I can duke it out for official credit. I might need it to enhance my CV, so I’m not giving up easy!
And after reading my 11:51 I think I’ll let the professionals handle the puns from now on.
GSD @ 68
Rove, et al should have used smoke signals – not the internet tubes.
Relevant to the Marcy’s post that I assume will resurface shortly:
“The prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald, subpoenaed the e-mails from the White House, the RNC and Bush’s re-election campaign, [Luskin] added.” — AP
T- @ 56
well, I certainly wouldn’t want to steal your thunder on that – I may be misremembering, after all…
When you get this thing about ‘The Bravery’ worked out, please look into the world famous superspendicular Pussy Cat Dolls.
(doubting myself at every step, now that “zed” has been revealed to *not* be the Canadian name for the alphabet character ‘Z’.)
hackworth @ 66
I sometimes get lost singing and playing rhythm. Not that great at either, mind you.
I’ve heard conflicting schools of thought: 1) you must disconnect your head from your hands, and 2) you must sing the melody to what you’re playing.
Can anyone help me out here? Know of any voice coaches that play guitar or guitar teachers that teach voice in the Atlanta area?
egregious @ 23
reading reading reading READING!!!! reading and well we did have a productive day at the hospital. But now it’s evening and I can relax and pour thru documents. Life is good.
Indeed – life is GOOD!
You have mail. )
These guys are unreal. Anybody got complaint letters about Lam before 2005?
The ones I’m seeing are from right before Cunningham resigned from Congress. October, 2005! He left about a month later.
Unless someone can show some action before this, the timing of Issa’s “complaints” makes these guys look awfully, awfully bad.
Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for the Blackberry Machiavellis.
Time’s almost up Mr. Rove.
-GSD
ooops, sorry about the Stray Cat Blues reference, it’s been so long I forgot the subject. How bout Cat Scratch Fever instead?
Gunga Djinn @
77
“Zed” for “Z” is everywhere but the US Gunga……
On music — has anyone heard of a New Zealand band called The Veils? I have a grandchild who says they are coming in June and are fantastic!
GSD @ 81
“Blackberry Machiavellis” – you sure know how to make an old brat laugh out loud GSD!
T- @
78
You might contact Rob. He teaches and is well wired into the music world hereabouts
Dromedary
I came across this video on Darkblacks site and it is reference to Kurts epitaph you ended your post with.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..gspot.com/
This Dan Cohen’s wonderful animation of Giant Steps
It is a beautiful day here in Bend, Oregon and as far as I’m concerned John Coltrane is next to god.
Thanks Donita
On Friday the 13th Deadeye Dick Cheney’s plane struck a bird.
Then Cheney went to the Heritage Foundation and accused the Democrats of not understanding terrorism.
Because, Bush and Cheney are the only ones who know anything.
-GSD
Hey Donita and Fini!
The spin I’m in this week is all about Grey Gardens…
Fabulous 1975 documentary about Jackie O’s relatives who became recluses in their East Hamptons home and went a bit bonkers… that was made into a Broadway play. Soon to be a major motion picture coming to a town near you.
There are die hard fans out there and they get a bit creative.. it’s been fun discovering their art.
The Revolutionary Costume for the Day.
Donita Sparks @ 37
The album that got Neil Young sued:
“Everybody’s Rockin’”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E…..kin’
More friday document dump goodness
I like the “movie-like” part the best. It’s so lame.
Feinstein has a letter to Abu about Lam, asking about “border patrol” concerns regarding the drop in immigration cases prosecuted (doc#27/28 of sec 7. 6/15/2006). And now these BMs are talking about using DF’s letter, and some EOUSA stats, to “make the case” against Lam as per an email from March 5 of this year. (doc #35 in section 7). The emails do NOT have full header/mailing data, so we don’t know who’s getting mail where. It originates with an eop.gov account.
I haven’t seen this border patrol complaint. Anyone finding that yet?
Cool hackworth, thanks for the link.
Didn’t know you were in Athens. Say hello to the Dinosaur when you see him.
Apparently the Dukestir’s vocabulary education did not include the word “dramatic”…
…or “theatrical”?
T- @
93
Actually it was me. I rarely see T becuase he works when I sleep and versa visa!
apikoros @ 72
I love the Bee Gees. Another artist that makes great music buying the house? No problem with that here.
OT – over at RawStory: US Attorney replacements ‘picked prior to firings’: Soon…
Donita Sparks @
31
My lynx point Siamese kitty Wanda June (god rest her soul) used to sit in front of the turntable any time I played my Vern Gosdin… (her favorite was is it raining at your house, but alas, YouTube let me down).
Harmonics, baby!
PS: I’ll never forget the first day you pod casted and we heard you as if you were in said living room, just painting away… Good Times.
twolf1 @ 98
NYT has it now.
Jacqrat @ 89
Hey Jacqrat, that movie is great.
*ilbo @
12
for lack of STORAGE????????? Not because they are expired? CRIMINAL
My apolologies. This is TEXAS BETSY using Cassie (Snarkassandra)’s computer and not checking the settings. Now changing to my own account. :(
nicelyput @
36
Johnny Cash was the only C & W musician I could connect with. I like Willie Nelson’s persona, but not his music so much. I thought the movie “Walk The Line” showed his undying love for her and my fav scene was him doing that gig in the jail. I hope they’re together for eternity … for Johnny, being anywhere with June is heaven.
102Cassie says
FEMA just announced they are throwing away 40 million $ worth of MRE (meals ready to eat) for lack of storage…
So, what about Darfur????
for lack of STORAGE????????? Not because they are expired? CRIMINAL
Somebody’s pocket is getting lined.
Just another Ponzi scheme in Bushcoland.
Ever heard the HeeBeeGeeBees do “Meaningless Songs in Very High Voices”? It’s good
Hebees
O..h…kaaay…this is interesting (sorry if you’ve already seen it):
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..113048/369
Sorry raven.
Reading too fast.
I miss Athens in the spring time. Those big bradford pear trees between north campus and downtown, the college coeds in shorts…mostly the coeds in shorts.
Breaking News:
Bush hires “Truth Czar”.
-GSD
Jacqrat @ 89
That movie/documentary is so good. Eccentric originals they were.
GSD @ 109
He can’t take the truth!!! (channeling Iglesias)
T- @ 108
The big bradford in our back yard was great but stinky last month. We have a giant dogwood in the front that is white as snow right now. As for the co-ed’s, jesus now they could be my grandkids! Did they have Athfest when you were here? Pretty rockin!
GSD —
Too bad fewer than 1% of Americans are in a position to appreciate the cleverness of “Blackberry Machiavellis.”
GSD @ 109
Fired him already!
raven @
112
Duh, it just dawned on me that you were in the ATL, sorry.
New thread.
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..s/#respond
LS @
110
There is a follow up, done in 2006 which is now available in a box set. I know what I’m putting on my wish list!
Johhny Cash hosts Derek and the Dominoes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1fXhLVaBBY
…then Clapton/Carl Perkins/Johhny Cash doing “Matchbox”
8 min.
Staying Alive metal version-Dweezil Frank Zappa Ozzy Osbourne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTj0_bGTzXA
Play it loud lots of bass
Jacqrat @ 117
Remember the cat food and the sweaters worn as head scarves…They have both died, so I wonder what time frame the follow-up covers. I would love to see it.
raven,
In 89 they had Athfest out at that big field.
Indigo Girls, Pylon, Love Tractor, Widespread Panic and many others played that day.
I think it rained on us too.
Can’t believe I remember even that much of it…
Texas Betsy @
114
BREAKING: The Truth Czar, after being a part of the Bush Administration for a mere 7 minutes, is already caught up in a scandal involving the alleged use of sodium pentothal.
Yep, out at the fairgrounds I think, or the Polo thing in Monroe. When Panic used to play double bills with Blues Traveler at the Theater. . .damn!T- @ 121
Yep, out at the fairgrounds I think, or the Polo thing in Monroe. When Panic used to play double bills with Blues Traveler at the Theater. . .damn! The second year I was here REM played for free on Leigon Field and the next year it was Pearl Jam!
Blank Kludge @ 118
YOU ARE KILLIN ME OVER HERE!
ralphbon @ 113
The one percent of Americans whom benefit from Bushco economic policies are diametrically opposed to that 1% which does not understand the joke.
It is quite good, BTW.
According to Ward Churchill, General Custer had designs on running for president. His fatal mistake (He’d split up his troops) in the hasty attack at LBH was caused by his desire to brand himself as a fierce Indian killer. It was popular at that time for politicians to associate themselves with the slaughter of Native Americans. The voters apparently ate it up.
LS @
120
I think it’s additional footage with an interview of Little Edie. She died in 2002 a bigger “star” than she could have imagined. Not having fundage to get it, I am not certain but the reviews at Amazon are sterling.
raven
I remember Pearl Jam at Legion.
I got thrown out for crowd surfing. Got pitched over the front rail one to many times.
Great while it lasted, though.
T- @
128
That’s the one!