
(Photo from Transcessive)
Of all the stories I've read about the document dump so far, I think this one, from WaPo's Sleuth blog, might be my favorite:
Congressional oversight committees and reporters covering the U.S. attorneys firing scandal waited with bated breath Thursday night for yet another huge document drop revealing more details in the Bush administration's plan to fire eight U.S. attorneys.
They waited, and waited. But the documents weren't delivered to the House and Senate Judiciary committees until this morning because -- no joke -- the Justice Department's copy machine broke.
As if the broken copier weren't enough, something even worse happened: the DOJ's computer server went down this morning just as agency officials were trying to email around 2,000 pages worth of documents to Capitol Hill.
But wait, that's not all! After the server went down, the car transporting hard copies of the documents to the Hill got a flat tire.
Or at least that's the dog-ate-my-homework excuse the Justice Department provided to the committees, according to Judiciary committee aides who asked to remain anonymous.
That. Is. Just. Beautiful. Look for at least another six months of those kinds of unfortunate "accidents."
But the biggest story, which Marcy and Christy have well covered, is the massive gaps in both the White House and RNC e-mail systems, including an 18-month overlap from March 2003 to August 2004 (shades of Nixon's missing 18 minutes, and the 18-day gap in the March 19 DoJ document dump) where there could very well be no e-mails available from either system (unfortunately, it extends into 2005 for Zapmaster Rove and anyone else with the same fastidious e-mail habits). It's all very fishy in my humble, paranoid opinion, especially considering that that timeframe covers the start of the war, most or all of the 2004 election (again, depending on deletion habits), and most of Jack Abramoff's dirty dealings. That's a lot of dirt to just accidentally go missing.
On the positive side, the Bush Administration can always be counted on to generate a continuous supply of fresh dirt, and most of their loopholes are now closed. The one remaining loophole that I know of, and it is a suspicious one indeed, is that Rove was the only WH staffer to have his deletion privileges revoked. So there remains the possibility that Karl was savvy enough to route his most delicate e-mail communications through his deputies, with a strict unwritten policy that any such e-mails must always be deleted by both sender and recipient. I'm not sure if Karl would actually risk that, though - especially not after the 2006 elections restored congressional oversight.
So unless Karl or other WH staffers were playing with fire, I think the White House has run out of technical excuses not to produce any e-mails pertaining to the Conyers subpoena. Of course, their bogus executive privilege battle still has to play out, but they're not going to win that one unless they get a very friendly court (uh-oh).
The part of all this that tickles me is that if Marcy's analysis is correct, the only reason that the WH staffers' RNC e-mails are being retained is because BushCo. was in bed with Abramoff. And the only reason Karl's e-mails are delete-proof is because the Bushies thought it would be a good idea to out Valerie Plame. Rove survived both investigations, but each one stripped away one of his layers of protection. Does he have any left? And if he somehow survives this investigation because of another hole in the e-mail system, will he have enough protection left to survive the next one? And oh yes, there will be a next one.
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You know, you feel obligated to give the benefit of a doubt, but ENOUGH with the dissembling: it’s time to just impeach the bastards-
Awww, how cute!
Fitz!
Rebel Yell @
1
Which “you” are you referring to? I gave up giving those bastards the benefit of the doubt some time in March 2001.
You are joking about the copy machine, the computer server going down right?
Have any other outlets picked up on NPR’s story yet?
http://www.npr.org/templates/s.....Id=9575434
things come undone @ 4
It didn’t look like a joke, but it could have been sarcasm on the part of the aides Akers talked to.
I think Rove needs a little bit o’ JUSTICE!
anytime soon will be fine.
Quotes from today’s Time’s essay with my reaction - just trying to get these into some of the great minds writing/reading here:
Inside the Bush E-mail Scandal
Friday, Apr. 13, 2007 By MASSIMO CALABRESI/WASHINGTON
“”[Some] White House staff members have duties that require them to interface regularly with political organizations,” Stanzel says, and therefore they needed separate equipment to stay on the right side of the law.”
If their duties required this interface, then the interface is part of official business, and should have been conducted on White House equipment. This dog won’t hunt.
“”His Rove’s] understanding starting very, very early in the Administration was that those e-mails were being archived,” the attorney, Robert Luskin, said.”
if this is true, then who made the decision not to archive Rove’s communications? How could the absence of archiving have possibly been overlooked?
Why are the Congressional committees pussyfooting around? Why haven’t they issued a whole slew more subpoenas in response to Fielding’s latest letter? Why not just cut to the chase?
FDL lawyers, help me out here if there is a legal strategy piece involved?
Hey, you know those office equipment jokes really hurt, cuz I sell copiers (sort of). What kind of machine was it? Let’s blame Xerox!
This may be a repost, but I just got up.
Lets say the Supreme Court voted 5-4 for Gore/Lierman in 2000. Lets also say that the USA data (GWB) spreadsheet’s final column says something other than FEDSOC and instead something random — like GLADD — or something less random like ACLU.
What would the GOP’s talking points be?
Twisted Martini @ 10
I think it was RICO.
As much as I hate Bush/Rove/Cheney and expect the worst, it is still hard for me to fathom the extent and pervasiveness of their awfulness. Did they really just sit in a room and say, we have 9/11, now we can do whatever we want? It can’t really be that they are that incompetent. It’s just too much. Just one bad decision after another? Did they do it for the money? The power? Did they really think they were doing good things for America when they stuck their chronies in every position in every department, regardless of their qualifications? Did they think America would be a better place with Democrats in jail?
I mean, you can start with the idea that they think they know better than everyone else, but were they just crazy power addicts and America and the press somehow their enablers?
It’s just so much! Everything they did! How did it happen?
Eli says:
You might be correct but could it all be fasttracked to the SCOTUS? IANAL but it seems to me that Kennedy has enough of an appreciation for the Constitution that he would most likely side with Breyer, Ginsburg, Souter, and Stevens. He is the “swing vote” nowadays since O’Conner’s retirement.
My $.02
It’s All. About. Casino. Jack.
The fact that he’s getting his sentence reduced this week, and his testimony has not led to the conviction of anyone who could lead up the pyramid, is rather shameless.
They know they shit is about to hit the fan and they’re burrying bodies furiousy.
I hope that teflon turd turns into a velcro mothaa just like John Gotti.
Five million disappeared emails. I haven’t heard anything so ridiculous since the Nixon years. Put Karl on the water board. The email will turn up rather quickly I have a feeling.
I bet Karl cries a lot - panic as the bunker crumbles! Or, maybe it’s kinda melting, in a bad Acid sort of way.
barrelhse @ 19
He doesn’t cry. He eats. Then he raps. Then he eats some more.
Eli @ 12
Eli, you’re so funny!
Eli @ 7
I think gremlins are loose. NJ Gov Corzine was convoying to meet with Imus and the Rutgers team when something went west and he’s now barely alive and in fact may not survive (his kind of injuries have a BAD track record of generating fatal embolisms…)
Jane Hamsher @ 16
I’m thinking of the scene in Goodfellas where Ray Liotta and Joe Pesci have to re-bury a whacked guy cuz they sold the land for condos. Who’s got the lime?
Georgesimian @ 13
I don’t believe that the good of the country ever entered into their calculations for even a heartbeat.
Jane Hamsher @ 15
I sure do hope Conyers or Leahy are asking where are all the names that Abramoff gave up in exchange for that reduced sentence. I’m not optimistic that they’re going to get anything out of that investigation, but at least it cost them their RNC e-mail hideaway.
Jane Hamsher @ 16
Maybe Waxman/Conyers/Leahy should subpoena Jack and get a public hearing as to exactly how he “cooperated” and a review of the names and information he is supposed to have provided.
Abramoff, has the goods. And of all things; a sentence reduction. That’s the Bush bribe.
You get Rove and that’s the ballgame and they know it.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 23
Abramoff’s sentence was reduced in exchange for his cooperation. But not with the investigators.
Is anyone in the SENATE doing anything about this? If not, what ARE they doing?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 24
That sounds like the truth to me.
Jane Hamsher @
16
Literally
It is so… good to have ex-prosecutors on our side — Leahy, Schumer, Whitehouse, Hode. These guys know how the system works, and how to squeeze that orange. I think that Rove’s half life right now is about three months and that he will be out by October. It may not be an actual prosecution that takes him down, but as he gets more and more lethal to what’s left of the Rethugs, they will insist he go, and in the end, Bush will have to toss him to save his own skin. That’s a good trade-off as far as I’m concerned, because the statute of limitations will run past the start of the next Presidency, and our home-grown Goebbels will get to do some ’splainin’ in open court when that happens.
Hey Jane, hope you are feeling well and enjoying the state of my youth! CT that is.
rxbusa @ 10
If I was the Senate, I’d be pissed. I’m pissed and I have nothing to do with the Government. Except that I voted.
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Oklahoma kiddo @ 25
Ha! Here’s what Josh at TPM just posted, and I think you have the answer, kiddo!
Sounds like it is time to issue subpoenas to each and every person Rove and the DOJ folks are believed to have emailed, and seize their computers and their paper files looking for copies of the emails on the recipients’ ends.
All it takes is for one of the recipients to have kept an email, on a disc or in a manila folder . . .
Just one, Karl. One person who held on to that oh-so-important email, to make sure that they did what they were asked. Just one.
Eli @ 26
Exactly.
Knut Wicksell @ 28
One of the scenarios I was wondering about was whether they would be able to tell if the WH or RNC were secretly holding e-mails back. Would they be able to see the contour of where those e-mails *should* have been, or ferret out references to e-mails that weren’t produced?
Knut Wicksell @ 30
I was wondering about that. Three generations of RePug criminals have been allowed to skate, either by pardon or reconciliation. This time they must do the time.
You can’t make this shit up! You can’t!
I think it is time for a serious politician, say, Leahy, to just simply start quoting Gonzo, his aides, etc. and then start snickering.
The entire country is laughing at these idiots. Why not have a high visibility politician on CNN, or whatever, just start laughing at the incredulous stories..
“The dog at my homework” doesn’t even do these stories justice. It is a complete understatement.
Puesto @ 37
It’s more like “The dog ate my all-F report card which I hid in his food bowl.”
But that’s not as concise.
We are so far into the weeds on this we really need to step back a minute. Put on your bizarro-world goggles — could a Democratic Administration have survived this long? Obstructed justice this long? Destroyed evidence this thoroughly?
Does anybody remember the Rose Law Firm billing records “outrage?” Hasn’t BushCo reached the level of illegality that we can start shooting at pumpkins in the back yard? Where’s the Democrats’ Dan Burton?
Eli @ 37
I should hope they could ferret it out—and if they can’t, I bet Marcy can!
TeddySanFran @ 40
The Repugs aren’t even shouting anymore.
TeddySanFran @ 39
I’ve wondered that as well. The double standard of acceptable behavior is incredible.
The Senate should simply tell the White House…screw the document dumps…
1) We want these extraneous devices (laptops and Blackberries) that supposedly were used strictly for political purposes.
2) We want to check their memories for any and all evidence that the emails would be preserved in their storage.
3) We want to examine them to see if there is any evidence of intentional vs. “accidental” scrubbing of the memories or drives.
4) We want to see if there is evidence of selective deletion of posts.
5) We want to see if these posts were deleted systematically…on specific days that relate to events in the firing of the Attorneys, or upon requests for documents, or activity by Congressional Committees.
6) By the way, also provide any Memory Chips or other storage devices that may preserve these documents!
Under penalty of felony!
TeddySanFran @ 41
The Democrats don’t have anyone that’s as whacked as Burton. Zell Miller isn’t in the party any longer….
TeddySanFran @ 41
We don’t own the airwaves like they do.
“The dog ate my homework” is a beautiful framing of the whole mess. Hat tip to Leahy!
Legal strategy? The general rule is that when you get ahead, you consolidate your gains, and wait for the right moment to expand on them. Lawyers who get a bit ahead in a matter and try to win right that minute lose much more often than they win. It’s like chess. You get up a pawn, you consolidate and wait for the right moment to get ahead two pawns. Eventually you win. Slow, slow, slow, but usually it works.
Friday’s trash: Bush wants to revise FISA to expand the number of people he can spy on.
montag @ 47
I’m embarrased to say he’s my Congressman…My pomeranian could do a better job.
cinnamonape @ 43
There would be all kinds of howls of outrage about how the Democrats are just fishing for inside information on the RNC’s strategies. I think turning the servers and devices over to a third party under strict disclosure guidelines would be more acceptable.
Twisted Martini @ 49
Bullshit. Poms can’t hold guns.
Twisted Martini @ 51
If Michael Moore could run a ficus tree, you should be able to run your Pomeranian. :)
The Master Turd sits
The Dog Shat out my e-mail
Paddle Broke, No Lube
Can and will our Folks suponea the Canadian Server for all those Blackberries?
smapdi @ 12
You’re late to the gate, sir. NPR has just cleared the wire with a report that all the “vetting” of these guys was a smoke screen. Rove/Bush had ALREADY selected the ones they “had problems with” and were initially going to fire ALL 93, and had to be talked down from it BY THEIR OWN PEOPLE because it WOULD HAVE HURT ONGOING CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS. Take home message here, sparky, is that they serve at the pleasure of the president BUT not if he’s removing them to OBSTRUCT JUSTICE by preventing criminal investigations from proceeding. If Gore had been allowed to serve, he won, despite you republinazi thugs sneers to the contrary, the list would indeed have contained such references BECAUSE THESE ARE POLITICAL APPOINTMENTS. Had this list been generated in early 2001, nobody could say boo. That’s the way the process works. But if Karlosivitch Rovski and Supreme President For Life Bush “had problems” with USA’s for ONGOING CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS (like Carol Lam and the Cunningham stuff just for a starter (remember the email “let’s discuss the REAL PROBLEM WE HAVE WITH CAROL LAM” (Caps mine)) that is open and shut obstruction of justice and if we can prove on him it is truly time to start impeachment.
And Kennedy has gone on record as saying he voted to cut off the counting for fear of “national upheaval” (specifically the republinazi brown shirt intimidation squads that PHYSICALLY ATTACKED vote counters in Florida during that time). He has since made it clear he feels he made a dreadful mistake and would like to remedy it.
Scarecrow @ 50
Again, you just can’t make this shit up!
Jane Hamsher @
16
Jane, is there a way for congress to look at what the courts are doing in terms of less time for Abramoff without results? Can they look at what he has offered up and see if there are tangible results? Is there any sort of check/balance available?
Kathy @ 56
Unfortunately, subpoenas don’t work outside our borders. But, if Leahy asked nicely, maybe they might want to cooperate.
Eli @
13
Konica Goodling strikes again.
Puesto @ 57
The problem is the shit was made up as conspiracy fiction and these GOP goobers thought it was a blueprint instead.
Eli @ 40
“Dude, where are my e-mails?”
Some Dems may not like this. But we ARE the Democratic base.
Phule @ 58
Anyone here ever read The Overseer, by Jonathan Rabb?
masaccio @ 49
So you think they are just digging in to what they already have and will issue more subpoenas later? But what about the time factor…i.e., giving ‘em time to scrub more hard drives?
punaise @ 59
She’s Ikon-ic of the DOJ mess, even though she’s just a duplicate of many others in government today.
punaise @ 61
I heard a joke that a buddy told me, that Konica Minolta equipment is nicknamed Monica since it all blows
Jane Hamsher @
16
Yep.
montag @ 66
let’s consult Al Sharpton
It’s like the reincarnation of Mussolini up there. Fascism untempered by competence.
Scarecrow @ 50
He’s been trying this for years… It’s CYA, imo.
cleter @ 66
I thought he made the trains run on time?
Kathy @ 56
Good call, Kathy.
Scarecrow @ 50
Reid and Pelosi need to state that this Administration has no standing to modify FISA. Bush lost his opportunity to change this law when he fucking violated it.
We’ll take it up in 09. Period.
TeddySanFran @ 70
“Wait, wait! Let me sign it again!”
Eli @ 73
Yep, changed the schedule.
Eli @ 70
According to Italians living in Italy at the time, he didn’t, not by a longshot, but if you didn’t believe his bullshit about the trains, you got whacked by the blackshirts.
Eli @ 53
Well by stating that the documents are unobtainable simply because the WH used systems that were flawed it would be perfectly legitimate for them to request the WH to do so.
But as a “compromise” I would accept the use of an impartial Special Prosecutor (maybe Fitz) who could evaluate the hardware and the NSC system for the documents that BY LAW must be retained under the Presidential Records Act. Since the hiring/firing of the Attorneys are (supposedly) non-political activities undertaken by the White House…any such document would, as a matter of course, need to be preserved.
Of course, other documents pertaining to criminal investigations might also be discovered.
As I recall, Fitz also had a specialist on document retrieval on his team in the leak investigation…so who would be more qualified for finding out if the records could be retrieved, and if they can’t whether there has been a pattern of deliberate destruction!
in light of the most recent turn of events, I wrote a song.
These five million long-gone emails were sent someplace. They did not all disappear. Get Karl under oath and ask him to whom did he send these emails?
James Webb brings it on to McCain.
Says McCain has begun impugning the characters of those who disagree with him.
McCain is falling down.
-GSD
So what is preventing Abu from wanting to spend more time with his family?
–Abu wants taxpayers to pick up the tab on the “coaching” he gets from aides before the testifying?
–He’s got a lot of loose ends to clean up?
–Chimpy can’t bear to part with an old friend?
Any ideas?
Georgesimian @ 14
The extent of this madness never could have happened without the press acting like Barney Fife. I take that back; for all of his bumbling at least Barney was well intentioned.
I agree with TeddySanFran about stepping back — Does it make sense to call for a Fitz-like special prosecutor to investigate the political subversion of the Department of Justice — of which the forced resignations of US Attys is only a part and the DoJ’s overall handling of corruption is another part, etc? It seems to me there are enough anecdotes of politicized prosecutions to warrant a thorough criminal investigation, and it’s also clear that the current leadership of the DoJ is compromised and conflicted out. Why shouldn’t we be calling for the mother of all criminal investigations, led by Fitz and his handpicked team? Not in lieu of the Congressional investigations, but in addition.
I’m frustrated by the lack of a clear grand strategy for dealing with the enormity of the DoJ corruption and the WH complicity.
Interesting the way Rove’s mind works…the fire ‘em all idea didn’t work out for him, so he turned Clinton’s doing it in his transition period into a red herring excuse for what they themselves did.
How come people still go for anything that these guys spew forth anymore?
sigh
Eli @ 72
hell, no, he just jiggered with the schedule.
montag @ 73
That *does* sound like BushCo. Their approach to problem-solving is to either claim that the problem is solved, or deny that the problem even exists. And the media happily went along, at least through his first term.
TeddySanFran @ 42
I’m sure that the junior senator from CT is up to the job.
Rove’s collar feels tight
Gonzales looking high strung
Two to twist in wind.
I still say someone needs to just start laughing at the stories in one of these Senate or House hearings. Just laughing… for about 5 minutes! It would make the news and just put a punto on all the lies. PUNTO!
The Dems seem to be doing pretty damn well in my opinion. I don’t get all the worrying, really. Every single day brings new awful headlines for the Bushies.
IEli @ 13
I think it’s spelled R-I-C-O-H..
I hate that I feel like this, but I think that Rove is kicking back, having an expensive drink in rich surroundings, and having a good laugh about our outrage. As if he could still squish us like we were bugs. If anyone ever deserved karmic payback, it is Rove and I hope that we all get the satisfaction of seeing him broken some day, but I’m not feeling optomistic about it tonight. He will NEVER experience an ‘Oh my god, what have I done’ moment no matter how many of his staffers get toasted (as in wonder bread, not champagne). The ‘Rap’ performance (as in ‘rap me with a spoon’) was the event which conveyed to me that we’re dealing with a truely singular asshole here. I hope he fries in hell.
Jane, I am seriously bummed. They say we’re supposed to get snow, either Sun. or Mon. The shoreline might escape though.
watertiger @
81
I sure miss Oz
Leahy gave us a leg up with his framing: the dog ate my homework. So we use the e-mails we have, keep asking questions, subpoena as we figure out what makes sense, keep the pressure on, and eventually we will either find something, or someone will break, or we’ll win in the press, or something else good will happen.
What absolutely won’t work is an immediate attempt to indict someone or impeach someone.
So…how come Rove isn’t working for a 2008 candidate yet? John Sidney McCain III could certainly use his wise guidance. It would complete the Bush-emulating cycle of suck that JSM III seems to have embarked on.
I will be watching closely what my party does with the missing email business.
TeddySanFran @ 96
Sampson won’t.
masaccio @ 94
Rove is the hydrant?
montag @ 79
And speaking of blackshirt and brownshirt things, anybody keeping track of the Blackwater outfit? They seem well positioned to provide Supreme President For Life Bush with his own “brownshirts” when he declares martial law and brings out the pain rays to disperse protesters. Posse Comitatus is already dead (lawyers in the groups please confirm but I know that’s right, it died about the same time that USA provision got midnight cut and pasted in) so they can be made national guardsmen, given badges, guns, and sent out to “control the lawless liberal mobs”.
The above paranoid anxiety attack brought to you by, deadlines! We make no sleep and far, far too much caffeine fun!
mui @ 79
Der Fuehrer is running short of friends that will cover his bony ass. Look at the “war czar” fiasco. He’s got no one to replace Abu.
From now on, these appointees have to go through a Democratically-controlled Judiciary Committee, and after Ashcroft and Abu, in succession, they’re not nearly as likely to pass on some hayseed fuckin’ lawyer who doesn’t know whether to shit or wind his watch that Bush dredges up from his Texas past.
The Bushies have just about used up all the favors owed them by their cronies….
kirk murphy @ 73
Might notthe Canadians–including conservatives–be so sick of this administration that they’d do anything to help a Dem congress?
Puesto @ 88
What’s a punto, Puesto? Like a period in Spanish?
watertiger @ 98
watertiger — Liked your photo of Smapson with Ashcroft. He looked a little school boy.
Eli @ 54
Wanna bet? Fuck those poodles, Poms are strapped…
OT:
Some truly unbelievable Friday Military Bullshit
Shorter Version: I, Lt. Gen. Raymond Odierno am a lying Cheneysucker.
Puesto @ 90
I would love for Leahy to just look at Gonzales during the hearing and say, ” Are you shitting me?”
Slightly OT (and maybe discussed earlier):
Wolfowitz’ girlfriend in the NYT:
I sure wish someone would victimize me into a $192,000 per year
tax free) job painting Liz Cheney’s toenails (or is it the other way around?)
And get this among those who we’ve been told don’t use email at all (or use it only rarely) are: the President, Attorney General Gonzales, Secretary of State Rice, Rumsfeld, Chertoff, I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby….
I wonder how many of these folks ACTUALLY had a blueberry or laptop that they used that was on the NRC’s system….a parallel communications stream that was “off the record” and evading the Presidential Records Act.
I wonder if anyone has seen these folks using a laptop or blackberry in public?
montag @ 100
Yeah but they own HoJoe? They’ll make him walk uninvited into any committee and stick up for a friend of Georgies’, like he did with that what’s his name(?) Some character. Jeez,*slap forehead*
cinnamonape @ 105
Can you really imagine Dubya trying to operate a laptop or a Blackberry? Or being able to adequately cover his tracks on one?
rxbusa @ 66
As to time to delete more records, I really doubt that. The people who would have to do it would now aren’t going to. They are Alexander Butterfields, not G. Gordon Liddys. They are working people, IT professionals, with self-respect and future careers and families to think about. They aren’t going to risk that for Karl or his sock puppet.
And what do Griles/Abramoff have to do with the USA firings?
Well, another Hatch protege - Jeffrey Taylor - is a loyal Bushie and a made man in the Utah Mafia.
And he just happened to be pushed through for a US Attorney position.
In the freakin’ District of Columbia - where he sits astride all DOJ cases in the District.
And protects Abramoff’s pal Griles…
and Hatch’s owners, the Rocky Mountain energy/mining megacorps.
Lot of weight on Jeffrey Taylor’s shoulders.
Hope he breaks soon.
Eli @
13
punaise @ 60
She’s just Canon fodder to these guys.
In light of these emails, I’d like to know what our Speaker is thinking.
Loo Hoo @ 60
I would think in it’s oversight capacity to see if the laws and sentencing guidelines were operating within the intentions of Congress, they could request the DOJ to provide information about the cooperativeness of a convicted felon.
I’d like to know more of the two dead attorneys….
Scarecrow @ 83
True, but it’s only been 90 days since inauguration. :)
Alfred Kalgarries @ 102
Into the bomb shelters with our laptops & our pjs.
Eli @
74
Then it can’t be reincarnation of Mussolini as NOTHING these clowns have done evidences even a smidgen of competence which is implied by having trains ontime.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 117
She’s too busy selling us out to the Islamofascists…and wearing a fashionable if repressive headscarf.
AZ Matt @106,
he’s all of what - 33 or something? Graduated law school in ‘99?
He hasn’t learned the fine art of obfuscation. His covering up at the hearings last month was ham-handed, at best.
masaccio @ 108
Then there’s a serious glitch in the RNC’s hiring practices. Maybe they should have put Monica in charge of HR…
montag@102
“who doesn’t know whether to shit or wind his watch”
Now, that was funny!
Puesto @ 90
I think it’s spelled R-I-C-O-H..
Yeah, but RICO = Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act
Scarecrow @
86
I hope we hear clear calls for Abu’s swift impeachment on 4/18. Many loud, clear calls. From both sides of the aisle, both Houses of Congress. A former AG or two could weigh in as well.
Janet? William? Dick? Edwin? Ben? Griffin? William?
oregondave @ 113
Lexmark that in the W column.
allan_in_upstate @ 108
I can’t believe Mr. Lick/spittle/Fingers/Hair has a girlfriend.
allan_in_upstate @ 111
Oh, she’s suffered so much. Her trials and tribulations make Mrs. Alito’s look trvial.
-GSD
watertiger @
125
I think he’s my age or a little older, 37 or 38.
I just dashed off another apology note to Karl for suspecting e-mail malfeasance. He replied that they not only forgot to archive but misplaced the hard drives as well. He suggested that we get over it and move on.
The thought occurs. Speaker Pelosi might just be the most important person on the planet.
Eli @
89
Or proclaim they’ll solve the problem immediately (NOLA, AIDS aid to Africa, port security) until — SHINY OBJECT!
mui @ 108
So? Holy Joe isn’t a member of the Judiciary Committee. He can whore for them all he likes, but he can’t do any more than any other Senator to get a nomination out of committee.
mui @ 131
As foreplay, they read The Weekly Standard to each other.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 134
I agree.
TeddySanFran @ 136
Ooo! Ooo! Where? Where?
Eli @ 122
They put Monica’s DEAN in charge of hiring.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/3/27/74143/0793
allan_in_upstate @ 138
I can handle that. Please do not go any further.
STTP in Ohio @ 122
It’s an old Texas expression. Fits a lot of the Texas mafia hired by Bush….
ccmask @ 120
Well, we can probably conclude they weren’t loyal Bushies.
-GSD
Everythingseemssoneat @ 133
Right Karl. I’ll just get over it. And move along. In your dreams.
GSD @ 144
The only good non-loyal-Bushie…
Also, any Democrat who falls under legal suspicion for the next two years can make a lot of hay by claiming the legal system is corrupt.
Pull a Tom Delay and call ‘em Nazis.
-GSD
punaise @ 127
I hear the reason they used e-mails was they wanted to avoid paying Pen tax.
mui @ 126
He’s probably as surprised as you are….
on right now:
Left, Right & Center
Arianna isn’t on the show very often. Tony Blankley is as insufferable as ever.
http://www.kcrw.com/news/programs/lr
click “live” button in top banner
Sam Fox, recess appointee as Ambassador to Belgium
#14 In regard to 9/11
9/11 is even more unbelieveanle than”the dog
ate my home work”
It is just too horrific to comprehend.
Holy Joe just came out in support of Susan Collins in Maine…Because he’s a bi-partisan guy who really abhors the tone that politics has taken.
-GSD
allan_in_upstate @ 138
you are TRYING to make me barf all over my keyboard, you TRULY ARE….
The US Marines are going to put the Osprey into action in Iraq.
I hope they got the bugs out of the system. Because they have a real shaky record.
-GSD
Rob Zuber @
6
Does anyone else remember the press briefing when all this began, and questions were centering on whose idea it had been to fire everyone — Tony Snow said something like, “Does it matter, really, whose idea it is [if the idea doesn’t formulate]?”
Well, yeah, guess it kind of does matter.
montag @ 144
Did you see her picture? She kinda looks like him.
punaise @ 150
I wish Arianna had her own show.
GSD @ 153
My prediction is that if she flips over to the Democrats, Joe will stop supporting her instantly.
GSD @ 148
By the time the election rolls around, that endorsement will be a political death sentence. Joementum is morphing, as we speak, into Homentum.
GSD @ 150
Apparently, the Iraqis aren’t killing enough of us, so we’re going to help them out….
Two things:
Thing One-if you didn’t read TeddySanFran’s link at 30, it’s about murder.
Thing Two-Watertiger, that reminded me of when my daughter danced to “Itsy Bitsy Funky Spider”. There was a lot more innocence in 1994.
I have a question. I don’t understand how Abramoff’s reduced-sentence hearing indicates the shit’s about to fly. I assumed it meant that he was getting off early for not giving up too much, just enough.
I hope the other interpretation is correct, but could someone explain the reasoning to me?
Thanks in advance.
montag @ 159
Hotline has a post about how her Democratic opponent is rejoicing at the news.
Eli @ 133
37 and aging fast!
allan_in_upstate @ 111
“The escorts I refer are not “prostitutes”. Indeed, their sophisticated company is expensive…but any sexual activity is strictly voluntary between the client and the escort.”
Wait…that’s the wrong story!
BTW It’s interesting that the woman involved is a LIBYAN!
And that this has been going on from before he was with the World Bank…while he was Deputy Secretary of Defense!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....Mar21.html
cleter @ 99
Heh! Rove is kinda busy.
AZ Matt @ 165
But a damn good point guard.
I’m trying to figure out this ‘deletion privilege revoked’ angle. It’s impossible to stay ahead of the curve with these guys but I wonder if this was Rove’s idea. Maybe he wanted deniability when all his email disappeared. I’m not sure what I suspect, but knowing Rove, I’m not taking anything at face value.
GSD @ 153
I hope that makes Schumer, Clinton, and Reid really, really happy. You broke it, you bought it.
Eli @
168
but, but, but…pasty prevaricators can’t jump!
mui @
105
Our current CONservative govt. is so far up Bush’s ass, … I’d better stop before I get tapped on the fingers by the MOD.
Unfortunately, Canada is moving towards a Bush- like dictatorship and I’m sure Harper the Whale will “… proteck his fruend frum Texxus”
cinnamonape @ 112
Cinnamon, he was on the phone during MCRove. The guy is a freaking addict.
GSD @ 155
Maybe this is why the Marines have only 7 month tours, while the Army has been just ordered to have 15 month ones!
Eli @ 163
“… deceptively quick?” Ain’t that just a bit revealing, when the subject of the piece is testifying before Congress?
sparkle Plenty @ 163
I’d like to know too, cuz I was ticked when I read that.
Scarecrow @
51
I’m genuinely surprised. There’s someone they aren’t spying on already? Bush is actually going to pretend to use FISA? That’s almost as laughable as today’s excuses for the delayed document dump. Truly, I can’t wait to see what bullshit excuses will provided in lieu of the documents due on the 16th.
montag @ 175
I think his ego has tripped him up. He was a whipped puppy at the hearings and if he has to appear again, I think the Big Dogs are going to pee all over him.
You know, another thing just occurred to me about all this just this morning. ChimpCo always broadcast a terrorist alert in its most dire moments. And now its clear they anointed so many US attorneys and weeded not very loyal Bushies out. It certainly makes me skeptical in the case of that Columbus Ohio guy, even though it looks like the Columbus Dispatch doesn’t believe you’re innocent until proven guilty (highly suggestive stuff even though the author is posing as a defender of Paul.)
Scarecrow @
86
My view, perhaps wishful thinking, is that there is a grand strategy and that grand strategies work best when not revealed [e.g. a lot of what this WH has tried to slip in under radar.
I’ve felt a strategy unfolding since the 2004 election, when great strides were made in getting the public’s attention, followed quickly by the Social Security fight, which was a revelatory battle to attend.
Eli @ 142
Next, they go for cocktails with Lynne and Dick.
GSD @ 155
Can the test it by having the CinC fly it around the countryside? Throw Cheney, Rove, Hadley, Rummy, the guys from AEI, etc. in the back. Did I miss anyone?
Throw them all in the Osprey, and fly my nephew and his fellow Marines back to the U.S.A. so they can de- stress like they are supposed to do. Come on Murtha, get these boys home.
Perhaps this has been posted earlier, but “some people say” Barack Obama grew up praying in a mosque.
Jeebus, Couric, that was revealed to be a LIE, not a rumor.
Loo Hoo @ 181
Pretty soon there’s Joementum all over the sheets.
Blech.
-GSD
solai, sparkle -
I don’t pretend to speak for Jane (and I couldn’t speak half as well if I tried).
Here’s my take -
The Bushies just figured out they’re losing.
They can’t be certain on using the Federal Courts and DOJ to punish enemies, reward friends, and obstuct justice.
So handing out reduced sentences to secure obstruction of justice won’t be an option for ever.
And if they want to buy (more) of Abramoff’s silence, they need to make the sale while they still own enough of the DOJ and Federal Judges to pay Abramoff’s price.
(my .02)
TeddySanFran @ 183
But *some people* still *said* it, so technically she was speaking the truth.
Totally OT:
Letter from angry soldier, MUST READ!
http://dallas.craigslist.org/rnr/310911254.html
GSD @ 179
Yep, Wolfowitz does strike me as a golden showers kinda guy….
smapdi @ 12
montag @ 137
I say this kind of jokingly. Didn’t he walk into some other committee that he didn’t belong to and start blowing his horn? Mel Sembler probably expects his money’s worth.
Maybe the Judiciary Comittee should get a restraining order.
Kalliope @ 189
Kalliope @ 184
And I hope she’s proud of herself, too….
I want Lieberman out. No caucusing or anything. And I understand the consequences.
I can’t stand Susan Collins. Or Hillary, or Reid, or Schumer.
mui @ 185
That would be funny. And deservedly so. :)
TeddySanFran @ 151
Thanks! Why couldn’t I remember that?
Optimism
Joe Blowman
dakine01 @
123
Eli @
74
cleter @ 66
You’ll get a whole new perspective on Mussolini after reading Umberto Eco. He’s made a career out of skewering Il Duce. It’s a beautiful desecration of that fetid corpse, every time he does it, too.
I wonder who our Eco will be…
montag @ 194
Here’s a restraining order:
1. Cheney
2. Bush
3. Rove
4. Gonzales
5. Hadley
6. Rice
etc.
Earlier in the day, my husband responded to someone else’s “the dog ate my homework” analogy…
Eli @ 185
Some people I met in Malibu said Katie gave it up for a few lines more than once…
I’m waiting for one of her guests to bring it up.
Should be quite a blow-out.
LJ/Aquaria @ 197
I vote for Matt Taibbi.
kirk murphy @ 200
It would be irresponsible not to speculate.
This story about all those lost emails. They, Rove and the rest, are disrespecting us.
things come undone @ 5
This has to be a joke, since I would bet dollars to doughnuts that the DOJ probably has a whole roomful of copy machines..What, a bunch of several hundred legal eagles all churning out briefs on one copier. Give me a break!
TeddySanFran @ 183
On top of that, one of my hangups about Barack Obama is that he’s always struck me as positively Sunday School.
I think they also accused Obama of going to a church that “excluded” white people.
It’s a scream the stuff they come up with. My theory is the Republikans believe the only way they can win is to run against Hillary.
That’s what my three-year-old said when he had an accident in his pants: “The dog did it.”
AZ Matt @ 196
How many Czars??? We have a COC, Sec Def, Cheney, who will always be the Czar. Wouldn’t a position like this need to be approved by congress?
Or is this just some new stink bait for Lieber-play.
Condi says she’s happy Imus got the boot. Poor Tom Delay, he was thinking that Imus’ canning was a victory for “the left”.
Also, new poop in Biskupic in Wisconsin. Seems he saved his ass by launching a pre-election prosecution of a Democrat. Up at TPM.
Who would have known.
-GSD
Of course HoJo wants a War Czar. He too would be able to blame that person instead of taking personal responsibility - doesn’t he always do as bush does and if bush wants to shrug off the war onto someone else, HoJo wants too also.
Breaking News:
Bush proposes a Czar Czar.
-GSD
There are a few Democratic Senators that really need replacing.
Let’s Go Shopping!!
Douche Bags - Aisle 3!
There is already a czar. His name is Rove.
GSD @ 210
Has no-one referred to this as “Czar Search” yet?
Sparkle Plenty @ 139
I don’t think these things call for strategy, except in the sense of goals; we use tactics to achieve those goals. So, what are the Democrats goals? I can think of two plausible goals: a) limit future damage, and undo whatever of the existing damage we can; b) win the next election.
As I noted above, we are doing pretty well on b, and a bit better on a.
Our people (Leahy, Schumer, Hode, Conyers, Waxman, Whitehouse and many others)have the advantage of being good at government, and it’s showing. We citizens push hard, it give them the ability to go forward.
Yeah lots of people want Liberman out- but he’s there for six more years.
Has no-one referred to this as “Czar Search” yet?
groan
TeddySanFran @ 183
I think that makes her a wanker.
Eli @ 214
Ya, do like an American Idol search and we get to vote!
Eli @ 214
Czar Czar Galore.
AZ Matt @ 196
Then perhaps Joe should pay him out of his own pocket. I’m sure Bushwhacked would pitch in.
Now that the federal government has concluded that abstinence-only programs are failures, it seems to me the people of Connecticut should ask Joe Lieberman why all that taxpayer money that leaves their state and comes back at a lower rate than almost every other state in the country should be getting funneled into the worthless faith-based abstinence programs he helped make possible.
AZ Matt @ 219
Well, Sanjaya couldn’t fuck it up any worse than it is already…
AZ Matt @ 207
Okay, registered Republicans are 37% of the electorate as of 2004. Maybe less today. That means they’re 13-15% of the total registered voters.
And they still want to run the world….
Hey, Ashcroft’s available, guys.
The Dog Ate My Subpoena
Doesn’t Santorum want to make this kind of conduct illegal?
-GSD
GSD @ 225
As long as there’s only *one* subpoena, it’s okay.
U. S. ATTORNEYS
E-mails contradict testimony in U.S. attorneys scandal
By Marisa Taylor and Margaret Talev
McClatchy Newspapers
WASHINGTON - A U.S. attorney in Wisconsin who prosecuted a state Democratic official on corruption charges during last year’s heated governor’s race was once targeted for firing by the Department of Justice, but given a reprieve for reasons that remain unclear. A federal appeals court last week threw out the conviction of Wisconsin state worker Georgia Thompson, saying the evidence was “beyond thin.”
Congressional investigators looking into the firings of eight U.S. attorneys saw Wisconsin prosecutor Steven M. Biskupic’s name on a list of lawyers targeted for removal when they were inspecting a Justice Department document not yet made public, according to an attorney for a lawmaker involved in the investigation. The attorney asked for anonymity because of the political sensitivity of the investigation.
It wasn’t clear when Biskupic was added to a Justice Department hit list of prosecutors, or when he was taken off, or whether those developments were connected to the just-overturned corruption case.
Nevertheless, the disclosure aroused investigators’ suspicion that Biskupic might have been retained in his job because he agreed to prosecute Democrats, though the evidence was slight. Such politicization of the administration of justice is at the heart of congressional Democrats’ concerns over the Bush administration’s firings of the U.S. attorneys.
oregondave @ 148
I Leica this thread!
Oklahoma kiddo @
211
I share your frustration, but patience and persistence will see us through. We have to keep Joe for the slim majority needed to chair ALL the hearings.
I feel the House Dems are working in concert with the Senate Dems to get Bush and his cabal. There are just too many good attorneys on our side to expect anything else.
These hearings will build and give the Repubs a migraine until Nov. ‘08 at the very least.
sparkle Plenty @
180
I was living outside Tampa when the Chimpy came to town to sell the Social Security reform cr*p. I remember doing some channel surfing and all the local channels but one were showing the Chimpenfuhrer. The exception was showing Jerry Springer. Jerry’s topic that day: “Confronting Liars” Three guesses which channel was the most truthful.
Czar Czar Galore.
Except this version is the slappee not the slapper
Rove e-mail massacre: (sealed) vs. (sealed)?
I think the WH figures “if they believe that stupid 9/11 story, they will believe any thing” such as “the dog ate my home work”
Czar Czar Galore
Easily confused with Czar Czar Binks.
GSD @ 210
I nominate Czar Czar Binks.
Czar Czar Binks
“So, wesa maken yousa Bombad General.”
And when they finally *do* get their War Czar, the headline can say “A Czar Is Born”.
The Speaker may be thinking, ‘got him’. About Rove.
montag @ 234 — great mimes gesticulate alike. . .
Oklahoma kiddo @ 238
I don’t think anyone’s going to think that until he’s been sentenced.
And even then, he’s sure to be pardoned. But at least everyone would know he’s guilty.
The key problem with the DOJ conspiracy to fire the USA’s (and yes, it was a conspiracy) is that any time the conspirators number more than two, the chances of it falling apart at some point expands exponentially as the number of conspirators increase. My guess is there were at least a dozen bigshots that were in on this, starting with Rove, Miers, Gonzales, Sampson, and Bush nodding benignly at the top. It was bound to crash like a house of cards.
Czar of all the Americas? (please let it not be so.)
AZ Matt @ 218
hee hee
hope this campaign gets a website soon…
dreamcatcher @ 240
With their tradecraft, the conspiracy was doomed.
“Secret” messages - on their Blackberries?
‘Whenever I want to keep a secret, I’ll remember to send it out of the US to Blackberries’ Canada HQ and back again, ensuring the sniffers have two copies.
Because I’m Karl Rove, and I’m so fucking smart.’
Why do the Rethugs listen to these dweeby gasbags in the first place?
Like a clan of poly sci zombies with a thing for bears, the Rethugs lurch along drooling behind their tubby avatars, chanting the day’s talking point, and flagellating their logical faculties.
Can’t they venerate something harmless, like* sand?
Their cult is killing us.
_______________________________________________
*Oh.
I forgot.
If those pesky brown people would only get out the way and let the Rethugs erect their
derrickstemples on their sacred sand, none of this would be necessary.]Eli @ 214
I think TDS had that.
tbsa @ 187
WOW. I hope that goes viral. How could it not?
mui @ 242
Funny you should say that…
TeddySanFran @ 244
Good, good. I would worry.
Rove’s harder to catch than a greased pig. If he gets nailed it will be because he made too big a mistake to cover up.
Fitzy allowed him five chances to take back his lies- and squeaked by..Pretty nice of Fitzy when ya think about it.
Did someone link to this already from NPR via TPM and now ThinkProgress?
The plan to fire all 93 USA’s originated with Rove idea and was designed as “political cover” to get rid of the actual few they wanted to replace.
oregondave @ 234
A mime is a terrible thing to baste. ;)
Dover Bitch @ 222
Sounds like good material for an editorial if I ever heard one.
GSD @ 210
How about Czar Czar Gabo?
Eli @ 240
Can the prez pardon Rove tomorrow, say for any and all acts he may commit or have committed? If I were the mover and shaker Dems, I’d get Karl, post Bush. I’m interested in justice, not politics.
Our Speaker is here in Washington today.
Dover Bitch @ 222
My syntax @ 251 came out all wrong, this being Friday. I am Mui, and I approve that idea.
Eli @ 240
Can the dems just gather info for a long while and not issue any sentences until Bush is out of office so they cannot be pardoned?
Also, isn’t it time we think about a constitutional amendment on the whole concept of a pardon. Total fuckery.
dreamcatcher @ 228
There have already been so many good ones, so to quote Dana Carvey doing the Shrub’s pappy, “Ni-kon’a do it.”
Seattle, Washington
So abstinence doesn’t work? Well sure it does- when ya ain’t gettin any.
Abstinence worked great for lots of guys in high school- until they were able to get some.
rwcole @ 260
I never got pregnant in high school, not even once.
Abstinence works- but screwing works better.
rwcole @ 254
Frankly, I think abstinence ought to be encouraged… for all Republicans. Forever. Let them solve the problem of having them around with their own policies.
rwcole @ 262
Ask Wolfowitz
“Hey- whatcha doin”
“Practicing abstinence”
“How’s it goin”
“Fuck You”
Loo Hoo @ 256
Surely their plan is to have President JSM3 pardon all and sundry.
actually, it was the DOJ SHREDDER that broke down…
overwork?
mui @ 255
Error…ERROR….must…analyze…
No, just kidding. I read ya. Have a good weekend. Nite, all.
(It’s not too late to recommend my first Kos diary)
JSM3?
Mclaughlin Group on PBS Tony Blankly and Pat keep doing Moral Equivalency arguments comparing Don Imus to black rap artists. Desperate to protect Rush and O’Reily they claim OUTRAGE that ANYONE would be fired for calling black women nappy hoes. Then they try and excuse Imus by linking his actions to other people (mostly black) saying the same thing. Mclaughlin keeps letting the GOPers get away with it maybe Mclaughlin is getting to old to host the show.
Loo Hoo @ 264
John S. McCain III, I believe.
TRex late night upstairs.
montag @ 271
Ah. Nothing to do with mental health, then.
mrobinsong @ 258
Send her back soon; she’s the Guest of Honor at tomorrow’s Grand Opening of our Munipal Railway T-Line (which so far has been a mixed bag for commuters — we’re hoping Nancy doesn’t have to wait 108 minutes for her train, as some did Monday)
Re: Abstinence
Any one else remember that great Three Dog Night song in the late ’60’s:
Celebate! Celebate!
Abstain to the music . . .
This Imus thing is never ending.
One last time-
Some rap artists say the word “HO”
Imus CALLED some young girls “HOs”
If ya can’t see the difference- ya shouldn’t be allowed ta fuckin vote.
I realize that if a Republican president comes after Bush, that pardons are all but certain. Another reason to elect a Democrat to the WH.
things come undone @
270
McLaughlin is a GOoPer from way back. Worked in Ray-guns WH after he left the priest hood.
masaccio @ 215
Yeah, those goals, then, sound good to me. I’m an old progressive so when I wonder about the strategy I’m wondering if it’s to
on track to international cooperation instead of competition in the interests of universal human rights and social equality. But definitely, I’m on board for trying to turn the ship away from the rocks and into safe waters where we can begin to patch it up. The overhaul can wait ’til after that.
.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 277
Pardons are probably the requirement for BushCo support for the eventual nominee — but that may not be worth it.
“Abstinence makes the heart grow fonder.”
- Eleanor Roosevelt
oregondave @
275
Old joke: Jesus comes back and the priest asks him about being celibate. Jesus looks at him real disgusted, “I said CELEBRATE sex not celibate.” Buh-dap-bump
It’s like sayin that someone who uses the WORD “father rapers” is the same as someone who rapes dear old dad.
An argument only an idiot- or a greased pig- could make.
Scott McClellan is on Bill Mahr tonite he just said….Sharpton on now.
Imus was fired for insulting 10 people- not for using bad language- I can’t believe that people can’t keep that straight.
dakine01 @ 282
That reminds me of something…
things come undone @ 270
McG is a reactionary pig and there should be no surprise in this. Just because he’s smart enough to hate Bush does not redeem him in my view.
montag @ 192
Who knows?
But she was part of the Iraq Study Group –
small world!
As was the conciglieri, James Baker III, who ran to the Suprem Court in the first place to get his Boy King installed.
We have not seen the last of the real string pullers yet, I am afraid. Rove might just be their firewall in this nefarious enterprise that tries to bring down the foundation of our nation.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 253
I wonder if there is a way to prevent this Presnit (or another one) to pardon the really guilty.
My concern is not revenge, but preventing these Merchants of Evil to return when the American populace has forgotten about all this,
return with a vengance and finish the job that spans Nixon, Iran Contra, and now the Middle East disaster.
Eli @ 168
Immediately noticed this high forehead, same as Rove.
Kalliope @ 288
Yes, this is the question, who are the string pullers.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 211
Maybe it could be done as a recess appointment.
This is about security, but I think we’re on the same page:
Link
Puesto,
Having just watched Bill Maher and listend to Scott McClellan spewing bullshit with all earnestness, I agree with you that we should just laugh out loud. We should just guffaw and squirt milk through our noses. Bill Bradley said a lot of things I agree with, but it was not the appropriate response.
Everytime I see Karl Rove’s foul name, I hit the DELETE button on my computer keyboard, but nothing happens. Am I doing something wrong?
And everytime I see George W. Bush’s or Dick Cheney’s foul names, I hit the IMPEACHMENT button on my custom computer keyboard, and still nothing happens.
My computer rep told me that these special keys would work, but it looks like I’ll have to have a computer technician check it out to determine why these keys are malfunctioning. Maybe a virus got planted in my system or maybe there’s a trojan Republican hiding somewhere inside and gumming up the works?
Of course, I could send my computer up to the Democratic-controlled Congress and have them see what they can do to make my IMPEACHMENT key work properly.
Eli @
240
But even with a conviction, he’d be back in the next Repug govt. Whole Repug party Needs a stake through the heart.
Jake Blues:
“Honest… I ran out of gas. I, I had a flat tire. I didn’t have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn’t come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake. A terrible flood. Locusts. IT WASN’T MY FAULT, I SWEAR TO GOD.”
http://imdb.com/title/tt0080455/quotes
Bush and his gang keep coming back to FISA because each of the thousands of warrantless wiretaps the Bushies laid down is a separate Federal Felony.
Why do the time when you can re-write the crime?
LBrowne @
177
Where are those subpoenas, by the way? Why haven’t they been delivered to Karl and Harriett? I’d like to hear Karl’s version before he sees what is in the deleted emails that Waxman is going to dredge up.
Sally, having swallowed cheese,
Directs down holes the scented breeze,
Enticing thus with baited breath
Nice mice to an untimely death.
Geoffrey Taylor, 1933
A blogger at Huffington Post–Chris Feldman I believe–makes a good point.
We should not be asking about the emails alone. We should be asking “who” deleted what and when did they delete it. The chain of people pointing fingers at “who” punched the delete keys under pressure would lead to a faster resolution of what can be done to recover the emails themselves.
Also, Washington Post reports that Harriet Miers ordered during her tenure as WH Counsel that all emails should be archived in hardcopy form before deleting electronically to comply with the Federal archiving laws—so maybe concentrating on the electronic record is a bit off center. There could in fact be photocopies and printouts lying around and nobody is paying attention to finding them.
Oklahoma kiddo @
253
Supreme Court ruled a accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt. If Rove accepts a pardon then he has to admit to the specific crimes for which he admits guilt and for which he is pardoned. Better not miss any.
Also,
Plame and Wilson are suing Rove. If Rove accepts and admits to crimes then I’d bet those admissions of guilt would make the civil claim a slam dunk.
And here is another thought which goes under-reported–a blogger at Think Progress remarked:
quote
I don’t think people in the whitehouse should be allowed to use RNC computers at all. If they were fluidly moving back and forth between computers that means they weren’t doing RNC business (no matter the current Gonzo Hatch act scandal) because that means, and and of itself, that they were being paid on the taxpayers dime while conducting RNC political duties and not the duties they were elected to do for ALL the people of the U.S. This should go for whatever political party takes office. If they want to do political party chores, fine -
DO IT ON THEIR TIME, NOT THE TAXPAYERS DIME!!
end quote
I have not heard too much on that point. Even if the work by WH Staff on RNC computers were kosher, how much taxpayer time was spent on off-duty labor?