
Photo by Mohammed Jalil /EPA, from AP/MSNBC
Like every other day in Iraq, there were mutliple bombings and scores of Iraqis killed on Thursday, as well as additional US casualties. But two bombings were particularly important for the signals they sent about the precarious position of the Iraq government and the prospects for success in the President's escalation strategy, which Bush described as a carefully planned strategy to enhance security in Baghdad.
The first set of explosions in the early morning hours of Thursday destroyed a major bridge in Baghdad that crosses the Tigris River and connects the predominantly Sunni areas on the western side with the predominantly Shia areas on the eastern side. The second bombing incident occurred in a cafetaria used by the Iraqi Parliament, in a heavily guarded building in the heavily guarded Green Zone. Here's the NYT version of the twin stories.
Two bombs struck at the heart of Iraq's power and morale Thursday: a suicide bomb exploded in the Iraqi Parliament and a powerful truck bomb destroyed a 60-year old steel bridge beloved by Baghdadis that linked neighborhoods on opposite banks of the Tigris.A suicide truck bomb blew up on a major bridge in Baghdad, collapsing the steel structure and sending cars tumbling into the Tigris River.
The bomb in parliament killed eight people, including at least two parliament members, and injured 23, who were eating a late lunch in the cafeteria when the bomb exploded, according to United States military officials. . . . [But see this AP update on casualties]
It was the worst bombing to take place in the International Zone since the protected area was established when American troops arrived here four years ago.
The bombing, in an area more heavily protected than anywhere else in the country, appeared designed to shake Iraqi confidence in the government and in its ability to protect itself, let alone its citizens. Since the bombing occurred within the International Zone it appeared also meant to show that even the American military cannot protect Iraqis, despite the number of troops and the effort being put into the new Baghdad security plan.
"This is a great blow to the government, which is always talking about security and how it is improving with the Americans, but it's a great violation of their security plan," said Ali al-Mayali, an injured parliament member from the bloc allied with militant Shiite cleric Moktada al-Sadr, as he sat outside the hospital holding gauze to his head to staunch bleeding from a shrapnel injury.
Thursday's two bombings tell us a lot about the virtual impossibility of providing security against a determined, well armed and disciplined force fighting a civil war against an unpopular regime propped up by an occupying army. And the Parliament bombing reveals much about the level of security in the Green Zone. A WSJ reporter on PBS's NewsHour explained that security inside the Green Zone was not significantly better than security outside the Green Zone, and the zone inself was turning into many smaller guarded compounds, each relying on its own security rather than the Iraqi Army/Police.
The message to the Iraq government is clear: You cannot trust your own forces to protect yourselves inside the Green Zone. The Americans can't protect you. You cannot be safe until you deal directly with the insurgents, and even that is just a hope.
The message to the US is equally clear: You do not have enough troops to secure Baghdad. You cannot rely on your Iraqi friends to protect even their own government buildings. Despite its fortification, you cannot protect the Green Zone, let alone the city's open markets or its roads or even the major bridges in and out of the captial. And if you can't secure those, you can't even guarantee that you could leave safely. (Swopa has more on that point.)
I suspect we won't hear Senators McCain or Lieberman talking about "progress" in Iraq for a few days, at least without being derided. But I doubt the Bush/Cheney regime will get the message; they seem incapable of acknowledging inconvenient facts. But they can't fix this with more troops, because they have no more troops to send. Instead, they are determined to break the US army by extending tours and draining the reserves and National Guard, while putting even more of our troops in harms way. It's up to the Congress to stop what Senator Webb called an "abuse" of the Army and to begin removing US forces from what appears to be a rapidly deteriorating position.
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Remember that flag waving welcome we were supposed to get in Iraq for liberating them? We might get it when we leave.
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I’ve said this before here, but Bush/Cheney are never going to leave Iraq because if they do, they lose power and it will be much easier to impeach them. It’s much harder to impeach the leader of our armies when they are in a war because then, who will lead the troops? I know that whoever does it will do better than Bush, but that’s besides the point.
Bush/Cheney also get to exercise their “war powers” only while they are at war. This is one of the primary reasons they went to war. They knew that the “war on terror” wasn’t going to get them very far, and they needed a real war.
Arguing the facts about how Iraq is lost, and the surge isn’t working, is like saying the sky is blue. How could the President not see it? He does, but it’s as I said above. This isn’t about the facts.
At Abu Ghareb, America lost its greatest weapon in the war in Iraq, its moral authority compared to that of overthrown tyrant Saddam Hussein.
In 2004, Iraq civil society and its ability to govern itself was destroyed by Paul Bremer, when he disbanded the sole national institution, the Iraqi army, and purged competent managers from all institutions for having been members of the Baath party (a job requirement under Saddam).
In 2006, Bush rejected the Iraq Study Group suggestions to work to political solutions.
The failures in Iraq are not failures of American troops. They are failures of the Bush Administration, starting from Bush’s own decisions.
I would like the Democrats to re-frame the discussion away from “victory” or “defeat,” because I do not think anyone can articulate what “victory” in Iraq would look like.
Good Morning Scarecrow and Firedogs,
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There is no pony. There never was. It’s time to stop looking for it.
Just on the topic of the subpeonas… Shouldn’t someone get over to the RNC headquarters, or even the DOJ, and physically grab those servers before they can be tampered with anymore? Isn’t that what would happen if the DOJ was actually doing its job?
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It’s much harder to impeach the leader of our armies when they are in a war because then, who will lead the troops?
Hey - I’ve got an idea. How about a “War Czar”?
(yeah I know it sounds stupid)
Yeah, loading is slow this morning. Someone’s e-bombing FDL.
Scarecrow:
Did you see this??
U.S. military reduces death count in Iraq parliament blast to 1
BAGHDAD (CNN) — The U.S. military has changed the casualty count from Thursday’s bombing attack at a cafeteria in Iraq’s parliament to one.
“Yesterday’s reports were based on initial reports from the scene.During evacuation operations, emergency responders and eyewitnesses reported that casualties were being evacuated in multiple directions.”
The military said the one dead was Iraqi lawmaker, Mohammed Awadh.
Earlier there had been reports that at least seven people died, including Awadh.
Twenty-two civilians were wounded. (Posted 7:42 a.m.)
The bridge bombing shows just how difficult it will be to withdraw our people. We cannot fly them all out. We have to move somewhere like Kuwait with our equipment so it can be shipped back, and presumably we will bring a lot of troops back on ships as well.
So, if the insurgents resist our leaving, it will be another disaster, with pictures of crashing helicopters and destroyed humvees and body bags. It will provide the same images for leaving Iraq that we have for leaving Viet Nam, one final parallel.
I just got to the Lake, and saw Scarecrow’s post at 5:15 AM Pacific had only 28 comments! Now I see why.
The honest to god truth is that most Americans could care less about the 650,ooo Iraqi people that are dead, the unreported injuries, the 2 million displaced. While there are some who are concerned, the majority are not, and this is difficult to accept and stomach.
Come on the MSM and blogs spend more time on horrendous comments made by Imus than how many Iraqi people have suffered, died and been displaced due to the illegal invasio of Iraq and “creative destruction” agenda in the middle east and the “noble lies” of the Bush administration.
How many Americans have changed their driving habits as a result of the invasion of Iraq for oil and Israel?
Face it most Americans have their pedals to the metal, and heads in the clouds.
Is it any wonder why people around the world hate and fear us? Judeo/Christian values at work
Pawlenty hitched his wagon to a flaming out star. Pawlenty was on the campaign trip when McCain couldn’t find the script with his position on condoms protecting against disease. I’ll bet Tim is kicking himself repeatedly for attaching him self to McCain. Then again, Tim is the bright bulb who made a trip to the Middle East & was photographed wearing a “Spam” tshirt (Spam, the pork product produced in MN).
It couldn’t happen to a more deserving vp wannabe. lol
The dog ate my comment!
Re Imus:
MSNBC stopped his simulcast two days ago, and CBS fired his ass yesterday. But Imus is still on air–at MSNBC in the guise of his buddy David Gregory. Yesterday and today, MSNBC has used Gregory to anchor a news program to fill in for the hours for Imus in the Morning. This news program is ostensibly about how we talk about race and gender in America.
But the “news” program is very much about the merits and demerits of the wit and wisdom of the man himself–and also about the schizoid identities of his program as shock jock on the one hand, and serious political discourse on the other.
barbara @ 22
lol
okay, I guess I’m back - so many homeless firedogs flailing about in left blogistan - I’m sure they’ll find their way back in a minute or two
Scarecrow - an on point post. I would like to ask about the significance of the bridge as target - it usually means something
FDL and Crooks&Liars both difficult to load so far today. Using Safari on beloved iBook. :})
Oh you are here - good. I was getting worried and starting withdrawal. Took over an hour using all the backdoors I could find.
Folks — apologies for the server problems — it’s affecting all blogs on this system, including C&L. Our tech folks are working hard to fix it, so we appreciate your patience.
It’s possible some comments were “lost,” as Karl Rove would say, but none of you will be subpoened.
it does indeed seem as if the president wants to break our armed forces
it looks like he is trying to leave us open to attack, and therefore, without our armed forces, forced to use our nuclear arsenal
these men are mad, there is no sacrifice too great
they are actually destroyng our military with deliberate zeal
now the men and women in our armed forces are near mutiny, told their tour is extended almost 50 percent longer
what KIND of morons are conductiNG our armed forces
WHY THE HELL IS CONGRESS LETTING THESE MORONS BREAK OUR MILITARY
kdh22 @
11
Did the military media minder say “hocus-pocus” before doing that little trick?
-GSD
cbl @ 11
let’s blame Rove
Scarecrow @ 22
NOW i’m disappointed!
i want my OWN subpoena. really.
i do. smiles.
Will my comment that disappeared come back or should I try again
GSD @ 24
Thanks for the heads up; I saw the story just after I posted, and finally managed to put the update and link into the main post.
Morning gang — sorry for the server hiccups this morning. We have folks working on it and we shouldbe good to go shortly. Thanks for your patience.
The toobz are taking the day off in honor of Ted Stevens surpassing Strom Thurmond as the longest serving Republican codger in the senate.
-GSD
Instead of extending a tour, couldn’t someone from the Bush family replace someone serving now? It is tragic that the Preznit is allowed by the MSM to strut and preen like a tough-guy hero while his family self-sedates living off their huge trust funds.
things come undone @ 27
I have no idea. I assume it’s somewhere on an RNC server.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 29
Fred Fielding says take your own sweet time.
-GSD
ya know, haven’t seen Murtha for days - this is usually where he steps up
mad props to Techies !
EPU’d by the black hole:
“…determined to break the U.S. Army.”
I understand the “break”/broken part. But I don’t understand the “determined to” part. Please help Barbara the Challenged to get this.
barbara @ 35
What exactly are you asking?
-GSD
Check out what General Zinni recently had to say about Iraq on April 11 MSNBC. He politely rips the Bush administration a new—hole.
This is well worth the watch. go to Hardball videos for April 11. Zinni
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/
OT:
I was in Germany in 2002 during the elections. All my formerly a-political friends and everyone I knew who had abstained from politics for years made sure they voted - for Chancellor Schroeder that is, because him and his party were against the Iraq War.
Schroeder won. A few weeks later, Mr. Wolfowitz and Mr. Richard Perle called for him to step down (Picture this) - in the NYT, for example. They were of the opinion that he should step down because he ran on an anti-Iraq platform.
There was not one single comment in the media about this meddling in another country’s democratic process. Made even more absurd as they felt called to import ‘democracy’ in Iraq, while showing that they had little respect for what it actually is.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 29
Woo! I thought I was going to miss a morning coffee chat. What an empty feeling I had.
cbl @
34
yeah, all the stories about the extended tours, the shorted rest/retraining, the National Guard and Reserves abuse — this is exactly what Murtha has been warning.
I keep wondering what the loyalist Republicans must be saying privately — they can see their party going down the drain, and still they cling to Bush. Mindless.
GSD @ 36
Convoluted. Sorry.
Why are they “determined to break the U.S. army”? Makes no sense to me, but then very little of Bushiness does.
GSD @ 36
There’s a concept in law that says if you do x knowing it will cause y, then the law will impute a motive that you intend y. You’re not allowed to say, “that wasn’t my intent; I did it for other reasons.” That’s the sense in which I meant “determined.”
Comments were lost. The server was down. Hiccups are being worked on. I blame Rove. No, I blame Clinton.
I blame Barney.
. . .It’s possible some comments
were “lost,” as Karl Rove would say,
but none of you will be subpoened. . .
my grand-mama sez. . .
“a subpoena is like a high-
colonic — it really gets
things a-movin’, no?. . .”
i’ll also re-post my shiny
new mash-up youtube video
of sen. leahy — making
stately-remarks — with some tart
comments about gonzo, and rove,
and some music, to boot — all
in under 2:30 running-time. . .
this is an administration that cannot
keep track of its e-mails, and we expect
it to minimize casualties, a world away,
in a war it started, but fundamentally
doesn’t even understand?
i think not.
Ya know, I was wondering about Murtha last night as well. Where is he?
Yay, you’re back! Coffee only does so much for me in the morning. I definitely need my FDL, too.
Laura Rozen on Kurdistan, Mossad involvement, Bremer, oil and access,
http://www.informationclearing.....e17524.htm
Oil, Iraq, pipelines
http://www.janes.com/regional_....._1_n.shtml
Oil, Iraq, pipelines
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq.....50,00.html
But…but…but…Charles Krauthammer says we’re making progress!
“I have told our administration, people in my administration, to be fully cooperative. I want to know the truth. If anybody has got any IMPLICATING E-MAILS inside our administration or outside our administration, it would be helpful if they came forward with the information so we can find out whether or not these allegations are true.”
George Snarky, circa CIA Leaky
Scarecrow @ 42
Bearing in mind that algebra nearly killed me, I still don’t understand why “y” would be a desirable outcome. It seems inevitable. So what game is afoot here?
Barbara,
There are many who believe that what is perceived as incompetence is actually all part of the “starve the beast” theory of the far right.
Ruin the government so that private industry can buy off the remains.
I for one am not so sure about that, but I also keep saying to myself, if someone planned to destroy America, they could not have implemented a better course of action than that of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.
-GSD
NPR’s Anne Garrels gave a talk at a women’s college, and spoke at length about living in the Red Zone, visiting the Green Zone, and life in general in Baghdad. Steve Clemons has a great, great write-up of it — well worth checking out.
kathleen — There’s a NYT story this a.m. about the Turkish military threatening to invade northern Iraq to go against Kurdish rebels striking Turkey. This is an unfolding nightmare for all.
lighten up, ol Barney’s got his own problems
Meanwhile, Fred Fielding makes his move. From the NYTimes today:
Scarecrow @ 54
I’ve been watching this, but media info is insufficient to know what is going on. Have their been recent incursions of Kurds into Turkey? If so, I haven’t read about them? If not, why are the Turks saber rattling?
When I saw the guy on the NewsHour yesterday describing the Green Zone and how each house in it is its own individual gated dwelling, I thought, “typical American Way, separate but equal, divide and conquer, good/bad, black/white.” Melting Pot? Melted like hot shards of metal through vulnerable skin. It makes me sick to my stomach.
Oh whew, finally I can get to FDL. Hmmm, maybe it was a Friday the 13th thing?
GSD @ 52
FWIW I’m one of “many”
barbara @ 51
That’s not the point. I’m not claiming that the regime consciously wants/desires the military to break or that they think that’s a desirable outcome. But if they know that’s what is happening, and they continue to cause it, they can be held responsible for that.
You can’t drive down the sidewalk, and knowingly run over people, and say, “I only meant to knock down parking meters.”
cbl — Thanks for the note over at windcatpond. Kept me from going nuts (”Is it just me or the toobz?”).
Also, the picture is great!
[Note to newcomers: “windcatpond” is a little emergency site over at blogger. The little sign there explains its purpose quite well: “WELCOME! Whether a high functioning or newly addicted FDL’er, this space has been provided for comments - ONLY in the event of a traffic induced shut down at Firedoglake”]
Biodun @ 56
tpmmuckraker’s must read today deconstructs Fielding’s offer. Short version: Fielding told Ds to shut up & stay put.
Any word on when DocuDump #4 is going to hit?
Thank you FDLer’s.
What is so disturbing is that most Americans could care less about how many Iraqi people have been killed (650,ooo and counting), injured (who knows), 2 million displaced all as a direct result of our illegal invasion.
Every American should force themselves to look at these pictures of dead and injured Iraqi people every day. This is all a direct result of our invasion.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/ira.....ar2003.htm
Have we witnessed Americans change their driving habits since the illegal invasion? No! Most Americans have their pedals, to the metal and heads in the clouds.
We do not need to wonder why so many people around the globe fear us.
There is a shift but is it enough? Let’s keep pushing, and driving less.
LoudounLib @ 59
I blame Freddy Krueger.
GSD ~
Cognitive dissonance here. I understand what you’re saying (or so I believe). But given that the whole public schtick of this administration since 9/11 has been to generate and perpetuate intense, irrational fear to persuade the peasants that military might is what stands between us and terrorist attacks in the good old U.S. of A., it seems that destroying the military undercuts that sell.
Frank Probst @ 68
How can a peasant help?
Biodun @ 56
That’s really important. Dana Perino obscured this in yesterday’s WH presser, creating the impression that as soon as their own experts retrieved the “lost” e-mails, they’d turn them over — but what she meant was, “we’ll turn them over only if the Dems accept the limits Fielding offered on access to Rove, closed meetings, no transcripts, etc.” The reporters did not pick up on this subtlety, so it’s good to see the Times did. They’re still covering up.
my first uninformed thought last night was somehow this is connected to Cheney and Iran - did he throw the Kurds over to get his Iran on ???
trust me, I know how ignorant that sounds, but after 4 years of Turkish ‘patience’ to suddenly . . .
Scarecrow @ 61
*Lightbulb goes on* Ah! I’m there. Now that wasn’t so hard, was it?! ^_^
cbl @
55
I was gonna ask which Barney until I checked the picture. Although given the reports yesterday about TRex being kin to chickens, the purple Barney might be in trouble as well…
mulligatawny @ 38
That almost seems nothing compared with Taiw*n’s presidential reelection. It is said that Chimpy came back from a meeting in the Mainland, and not only told the prez of T- to tone down his rhetoric, but also stop the election (since it was bothering the Mainland). Chimpy was ignored, but obvious this was an outrage to T-. Reportedly after the prez was reelcted he got a congratulation note from the chimp, stating something like: Congratulations. send troops to Iraq.
Every time I have trouble getting to this site (or any liberal website) I begin to get paranoid. Sites like this are a huge threat to BushCo. And, since we know that these guys are completelyruthless and amoral, I’m sure that they have plans to shut us down. Through net fees, viruses, legalities….I don’t know how they plan to do it but I get very nervous when I can’t reach this site. Or is my tinfoil hat on too tight?
Frank Probst @ 64
my hunch — and it is only a hunch,
is to look for it after 4:30 p.m., e.d.t.
this evening — just like ‘em to be
slightly late, and way short. . .
five million e-mails short.
Morning all. I posed a question here last night, and after spocko inspired me to start mailing it around, I decided to post in on Kos. Would appreciate a recommend.
It appears Bush has already tried to take us to war with Iran.
eCAHNomics @
57
There are Kurdish separatists living in Turkey, and Iraq, and Syria and Iran and they have been involved in attacks that have resulted in the deaths of around 30,000 since sometime in the 80’s.
There were recently some Turkish military that were killed.
Turkey has claimed that the US has helped to harbor these “terrorists” in Iraq.
But we like them so we call them “freedom fighters”.
-GSD
(Snip)
Buyukanit also said Turkey’s military had received intelligence that Kurdish guerrillas would step up their activities in Turkey from May.
He said 10 members of the armed forces had been killed in clashes with PKK fighters in recent days during a military offensive in southeast Turkey, with 29 PKK members killed during the same period.
More than 30,000 people have been killed since the PKK launched its armed struggle to win greater civil rights and regional autonomy for Turkey’s Kurdish minority in 1984.
Turks and Kurds-from Al Jazeera.
eCAHNomics @ 57:
Your answer is in bold below. From the NYTimes:
Scarecrow @ 54
Turkey and its Kurds who are sometimes behaving rebelliously have been in conflict for decades. Kind of nothing new.
solai - you are not alone in your paranoia - I was worried all my citing NSA yesterday brought down the wrath of Cray :)
barbara @ 67
One would think, but to quote Barbara Bush, it’s working out quite well for them.
-GSD
Where’s that new War Czar when Bush needs one?
solai @ 74
Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you.
eCAHNomics @ 57
Is there any crediblity about Feith and Perles conflict of interest issues in Turkey?
http://sibeledmonds.blogspot.c.....-marc.html
http://www.counterpunch.org/stanton11192005.html
GSD & Scarecrow:
Finally have it. Uffdah. I learn slowly, but I learn well! Thanks.
eCAHNomics @ 63
They’re going to get in trouble on this one. The e-mails that Fielding is trying to shield are at the RNC, not the White House. There’s no way they’re covered by priviledge. Furthermore, the fact that Fielding is arguing that they ARE covered by priviledge suggests that the e-mails pertain to official White House business, because that’s the only way priviledge could attach in the first place. The problem with that is that it’s illegal to do official White House business on the RNC’s servers. He’s in a big Catch-22 here, and the Dem’s are going to be able to do an end-run around him and simply subpoena the RNC directly. It’s absurd that the RNC is turning the e-mails over to the White House to begin with. They should be going straight to Congress.
The Iraqi’s are telegraphing their moves by attacking us inside the Green Zone and by blowing up the bridge. They are telling us we can attack you inside and outside the Green Zone. They are telling us we can cut off your supply lines. Given the Iraqi’s abilty to shoot our helicopters resupply from the air would be costly in men, lost supplies and helicopters. Resupply from the ground is more doable but it would force us to fight building by building in the twisting streets of Bagdad. The Iraqi’s are saying we can force you to fight on a battlefield of our choosing. We can force you to protect the remaining eight bridges that link Bagdad or risk getting cut off completely from one direction. While we lob shells at the Green Zone and shoot down helicopters safe on our side of the river. Airstrikes and Artillery would be your only recourse but they tend to cause lots of civilian causalites. With every civilian death the enemy gets stronger as surviving relatives scream revenge. We can force you to bring Bagdad to a traffic standstill as you search every vehicle going over the last eight bridges. We can win this fight but it would be costly in men. We have to protect the bridges especialy if bush attacks Iran.
Scarecrow @ 54
I wonder if this would even be a nightmare for the neocons who want to spread chaos around the region. The success of the Kurds seems to be universally touted by them.
Frank Probst @ 86
We have become old Communist Russia, the state is now the Party!
Looks like Ronald Reagan finally lost this one and it took the son of his Vice President to internalize and then implement the old Soviet strategy of taking over America from within.
-GSD
No one answered me the first time, but the server was being wacky…
Shouldn’t someone (who?) go down to the RNC, or even the DOJ, and phsycally take the servers before they can be tampered with? Isn’t that how it would work if it were, say, business fraud?
I’ve been watching this, but media info is insufficient to know what is going on. Have their been recent incursions of Kurds into Turkey? If so, I haven’t read about them? If not, why are the Turks saber rattling?
I wrote, very early on, that partitioning Iraq into 3 distinct entities was very possibly a desireable way of helping to ease the sectarian strife. Someone then corrected me, in that it is assumed/expected that an independent Kurdish state would be almost immediately attacked by Turkey.
Not entirely sure as to the why.
would still like to see someone respond to my question about the possible significance of that bridge as target
Sounds like Little Bighorn redux to me.
(A WSJ reporter on PBS NewsHour? Pah! It is an insult to me!)
barbara @
71
*Lightbulb goes on* Ah! I’m there. Now that wasn’t so hard, was it?! ^_^
Algebra II starts Monday a.m. ;-)
cbl @ 92
Read “things undone” comments.
-GSD
If, if it is what it is.
jayt @ 91
Turkey has a sizable Kurdish population just across the border from Iraq. They don’t want them to get any ideas from the Iraqi side of the border about independence or secession.
I have insider knowledge that Barney, our covert operative, has been compromised. After rendition, he ate the friggin’ emails. We gotta get him outta there!
mulligatawny @ 79
Uh huh. Have you seen the Turkish film “Yol”? It’s about prisoners on family leave during the military gov. One of them is a Kurd.
Meanwhile, I’m sure FDLers (*g*) have been closely following Wolfowitz’s problems at the World Bank:
mui @ 98
“Yol” is a fantastic (and incredibly depressing) film. I have a copy on VHS.
Scarecrow @ 94
Don’t see it alone!!!