
(Photo of somewhat used prison mattresses via macwagen.)
The Senate Judiciary Committee voted this morning to issue subpoenas for the various missing documents, including the e-mails that have been identified as likely coming from RNC laptops and back and forth on RNC servers in violation of the Presidential Records Act. (One would hope that would also including communications on various blackberry and cell phone devices as well.) Also, additional subpoenas were authorized for DoJ personnel who had heretofore not been included in the information gathering. It's a growing list of names with their fingers in the politicization pie, isn't it?
The Muck has the scoop, including some information from a committee press release:
The authorization approved Thursday covers all documents in the possession, control or custody of the Department of Justice and the White House related to the committee’s ongoing investigation. Another authorization for subpoenas was approved by the committee for J. Scott Jennings, Special Assistant to the President and Deputy Director of Political Affairs; and William E. Moschella, Principal Associate Deputy Attorney General.
The Committee is expected to vote on a similar authorization next week for Sara M. Taylor, Deputy Assistant to the President and Director of Political Affairs.
Above and beyond that, I wanted to say some special kudos to Sen. Pat Leahy. TPM has some video of his floor speech today in the Senate, and RawStory has an advance copy of his remarks which include such gems as this:
First and foremost, we are making progress restoring the Senate and the Congress to their proper constitutional role. From the FBI’s illegal and improper use of National Security Letters to the politically motivated dismissal of so many of the Nation’s U.S. Attorneys, there are concerns about the competence and independence of the Department of Justice. This pattern of abuse of authority and mismanagement causes me, and many others on both sides of the aisle, to wonder whether the FBI and Department of Justice have been faithful stewards of the great trust that the Congress and American people have placed in them. We need to keep our Nation safe, while respecting the privacy rights and civil liberties of all Americans. Last year in the former Congress, the Administration sought expanded powers in the PATRIOT Act reauthorization to appoint U.S. Attorneys without Senate confirmation, and to more freely use National Security Letters. The Administration got these powers, and they have badly bungled both….As we learn more details about the ousters of these U.S. Attorneys the story grows more troubling. Had we accepted the initial testimony of the Attorney General and other Department officials we would not have gotten to the truth. The White House and the Attorney General have dodged Congress’s questions and ducked real accountability for years. In the past they counted on a rubberstamping Congress to avoid accountability. The American people have a new Congress, one that looks for answers….
Now we are learning that the “off book” communications they were having about these actions, by using Republican political email addresses, have not been preserved. Like the famous 18-minute gap in the Nixon White House tapes, it appears likely that key documentation has been erased or misplaced. This sounds like the Administration’s version of the dog ate my homework. I am deeply disturbed that just when this Administration is finally subjected to meaningful oversight, it cannot produce the necessary information. This Administration has worn out the benefit of the doubt and undermined whatever credibility it had left. The American people are right that they are entitled to full and honest public testimony of the White House staff responsible for this debacle.
We have asked for Administration officials and now former officials to cooperate with the Judiciary Committee in its inquiry and I hope that they will. Through the Committee’s oversight work so far, we know some of the answers to some of the questions we have been asking, and the answers are troubling. We have learned that most of the U.S. Attorneys that were asked to resign were doing their jobs well and were fired for not bending to the political will of some in Washington. Apparently, their reward for their efforts at rooting out serious public corruption is a kick out the door.
More like this please. And may I take a moment to compliment both Sen. Leahy and Rep. John Conyers, as well as Rep. Henry Waxman for not only providing some much needed oversight and public sunshine on these matters — but also for being willing to go to the mattresses in order to get to the truth. Thank you. On behalf of your nation and its Constitution and all of us who care about such issues as separation of powers and the rule of law. Just…thank you.
And for a really big laugh? Check out The Muck's coverage of the press gaggle today. Priceless.
Then, after the chuckle, turn your attention to Dan Froomkin, who did some legwork and managed to corner WH communications staff on why internal communications guidelines and the Presidential Records Act were so recklessly disregarded…for which Froomkin was rewarded with a lot of non-answers and a refusal to allow him to make public a transcript of the call about matters of public import. And there is this:
Over the past six years, about 50 of the White House staffers most involved in Republican Party affairs — including Rove and his office of political affairs — were given RNC-issued equipment on which to conduct party business. That included laptops and Blackberries.
For Rove, a noted Blackberry addict who holds the position of senior adviser and deputy chief of staff, that would have meant switching from one device to another when alternating from White House business to Republican party business. Apparently he didn't bother.
This blatant disregard for the letter of the law is appalling, brazen and a big fat finger to Congress, which Rove and the rest of the politicos in the White House thought they had in their Parliamentary back pocket when it was under Republican control. A huge hat tip to reader cbl who found this article in GovExec via National Journal:
RNC spokeswoman Tracey Schmitt said on April 4, "We are in contact with the committee and are in the process of responding." A meeting between RNC representatives and congressional investigators is expected next week.
The RNC's policy, Stanzel said, is to delete e-mails every 30 days, except for the e-mails of White House aides "who use the political e-mail accounts the RNC has provided them." David Almacy, White House Internet and e-communications director, told Computerworld in March that the RNC's archive exception for White House e-mails began in 2004.
Almacy said that White House computers block access to personal or other e-mail accounts to provide security and to preserve records deemed by law to be presidential. That policy does not address the use of BlackBerrys or other portable electronic devices, whether they are personally owned or provided to White House officials by the RNC or others.
One former White House political aide said he vaguely recalled receiving guidance about sending e-mail on an RNC-provided BlackBerry and using a gwb43.com e-mail account, but he had clearer memories of getting "a billion and one" White House ethics briefings.
The e-mail instructions, from Sara Taylor, director of White House political affairs, were meant to help aides juggle dual sets of communications devices to comply with the Hatch Act and the Presidential Records Act, and to use the RNC equipment and accounts "only for political activity."
The aide said that much of the work in his office was by definition more political than official, including coordination with White House advance teams about presidential travel; use of White House equipment for events; and communication with Republican campaign committees and candidates. (emphasis mine)
Oh, Karl, you are about to find out that elections have consequences. And, if the Republicans in Congress had any sense, they would be backing whatever the Democratic leadership wants to do with this…because the festering stench of Turdblossom has crept into every crack of the Republican party, and has begun to weigh it down like the nasty, fetid anchor that it is.
Sure hope that testimony prep is going into overtime for the AG. Because from where I sit today, every time I turn around a whole batch of new questions is popping forward. And if I were Gonzales, I'd have to wonder how much more I would personally be willing to endure to protect Rove's shop. Let alone all those questions that are still outstanding about Rove's Cooper e-mail, among many many others…and I have got a loooooong list of questions on that one.)
Obstruction of justice? Violation of the spirit and the letter of the law? Political dirty tricks by any means necessary, legal or otherwise? I say go to the mattresses, Congress…and send in the sunshine. It is well past time for a whole lot of truth.
UPDATE: C&L has further video of Leahy's floor speech — don't miss the comparison to the Nixonian 18 minute gap. Love it.
Related posts:
- Republican Gubernatorial Candidate Brags That Bush DOJ Wasn’t Corrupt Enough For Him
- HJC Schedules “Get Democrats to Cave on PATRIOT” Hearing
- RNC Leader Steele Confuses Dick’s Pre-Crime with Justice
- A New Mission for the White House Press Corps: Which Health Care Execs Visited Obama?
- Washington Post: Rove More Involved in US Attorney Firings Than He Claims





Spotlight








Support this site!
Subscribe to the newsletter
Advertise on Firedoglake
Send
us your tips
Make us your homepage
About Firedoglake
Advanced search

fitz??
http://www.medicalsupplychain.com/pdfMcCaskill.pdf
http://www.pressrelease365.com…..s-1275.htm
CHS – GREAT Post!!
“Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.“
Getting on DOJ’s case seems to be gaining in popularity these days. Much overdue but better late than never. Sen. Nelson of Florida is getting on DOJ’s ass too.
It’s doubtful we’ll ever know a fraction of the evil plots which went on behind Bush administration closed doors. But what we do know is far and away enough to begin impeachment hearings, and criminal proceedings.
OMG first?
At TalkLeft, Last Night in Little Rock says that Congress – Leahy, specifically, but I’d bet that Waxman would go along – should issue a subpoena duces tecum for the servers, like today.
We’re going to need a lot more popcorn!
YouTube has everything: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHyFeNCovIw
Democrats must relentlessly pursue Karl Rove. Beyond 2008. This man is the snake’s head.
Christy, great post.
Good for Sen. Leahy.
LS, nice link at #3. The plot deepens and thickens.
However, the link at #2 goes to “page not found”
They have to know how bad this looks. What does this say about what they’re trying to hide?
As I sit here, I hold documentation and confirmation of complaints about numerous legal employees both attorneys and Judges ,SS and OCR!! One shot is taking a handful out. They are liars, cheaters and traitors. They will go. I am all over it like white on rice and will see these legal maneuvers stopped on behalf of all disabled American citizens. Screw justice… nope not today, not with me you don’t~
THis is going to cause a big run on popcorn.
The Democrat who says he or she will root out the evils of the Bush administration will get my vote for president.
Democratic Triple Threat. All three of them working in concert. What a sight to see!
What I don’t get is this:
The RNC emails were given as a way to sequester political actions from government funds.
RNC servers were used to communicate re: USA firings.
Therefore we have proven that at least some staffers believed they were working on these USA office staff changes with political motives, no?
Great post Christy, these characters are doomed! Good for Pat Leahy, as long as he keeps his eye on the ball he’ll get it done.
11/7 changed everything
Redd, you are on a grafix roll! Excellent post, of couse — but your pic finds are stellar.
Woo Hoo!
elections have consequences.
77
is that a pro?
Froomkin’s article of his interview with Stanzel is damning.
As Froomkin says, the email retention policy is similar to that which existed in the Clinton WH. With all the ex Clinton staffers out there, shouldn’t we have a clear idea about what is required of WH emails and how those emails are preserved? I mean really, this isn’t rocket surgery here.
More to the point, “commercial or free e-mail sites and chat rooms are blocked from the EOP network to help staff members ensure compliance and to prevent the circumvention of the records management requirements.”
Sounds pretty clear to me, especially the “prevent the circumvention of the records management requirements” part.
So where’s the outrage, the indictments, the articles of impeachment!? Why are these people not in jail? If a Democratic administration had done these things they would have been lynched months ago.
They’re going down. Down down down down down.
Monica “I lost the blue dress”
I Love The Leahy Video !!!
Everyone should read LS’s link above – your poor little hippie head will swim
LS, sure hope you will forward that on to TPM, McClatchy, and e pluribus media as I suggested
downstairs
Re # 18; that’s the way I see it. They’ve basically admitted firing and replacing the 8 US attorneys for political reasons unrelated to job performance.
liz @ 14
Liz, are you kidding? The Administrative Law Judges at Social Security TOO? I used to work in a Hearing Office…
Alison @
15
With butter please, the hell with my diet.
Whitehouse loses “5 million e-mails”.
Henry’s gonna be busy.
-GSD
Gang, I updated above — C&L got even more video from Leahy’s floor speech and it’s great. Wanted to be sure everyone got a chance to see it.
What the supeona authorization from the SJC will cover – From Muck:
so glad to see Moschella on the list. he’s the one who gave Brett Tolman (sp?) the language to insert into the Patriot Act reauthorization bill to permit the indefinite US Attorney appointments without the need for Senate confirmation.
ruffian @ 22
Gmail signup.
Driveby here cause I have to head into Manhattan for the FISA panel tonight, just wanted to say that this is a great thing that is happening, and that FDL is part of the reason it is coming to pass.
I’m getting a little misty about it.
The folks here just rock.
Christy, i love the post and I can picture the smile that was on your face while you were writng it.
Uhhh…check this out!
http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/27607
ruffian @ 22
Yes, if you are switching to a web based email account then I like Gmail. Yahoo isn’t bed either.
Great post, Christy. You’re certainly busy. You definitely have a lot material to wade and read through and write about. And you do so with verve, I must say.
Bush and all his NSA BS want all kinds of electronic data kept for “spying” purposes (phone records, library data, e-mail info, NYC police research, out and out unconstitutional Reich control) but can’t archive his own inner sanctum e-mail data?
No Sale.
Not buying that line.
Call all Turdblossomites! Are you seriously considering that anyone is buying this stuff?
And you expect us to believe one scintilla of blather from your blowhard minions?
Unreal.
curiousgeorge @ 13
They, Don’t. Care.
In their arrogance, Bush/Rove/Cheney think they can just stonewall, stonewall, stonewall. And if they do end up getting called on something their defense is, “oh, well, big mistake, big misunderstanding, sorry, we were really, really busy, and uh, we forgot, let’s not play the blame game, ok?”
That’s the trouble with making your own reality-not everybody sees it your way.
Now, nobody sees it their way.
cbl – done.
Re: link #2. Go to link #3, go to the bottom of the page where it says Medical blah, blah…there is all the stuff from the case. Scroll down to the letter to McCaskill – it is a wow letter.
OT – T. Rex Related to Chickens
http://news.yahoo.com/s/livesc…..tochickens
Who knew? LOL
noen @ 37
I rather like squirrelmail running in concert with my own personal domain’s email, but I suppose that’s not for everyone…
A comentator on Huff post earlier today:
There is no such think as a “lost’ or ” deleted” email. It may be overwritten with random numbers and characters numerous times but it can’t be erased or deleted barring the complete physical destruction of the hard drive. A forensic computer specialist given a Cray supercomputer, some forensic software and an electron tunneling microscope can recover the emails in a matter of days. It’s expensive bit doable. Sheik Khalid’s hard drive was encrypted and the contents overwritten with a Guttman 35X pseudo-random overwrite. The NSA broke it in 72 hours.
And now CREW has just announced that two inside sources at the White House say that over FIVE MILLION emails from 2003-05 are missing.
Compared to this, Nixon was a piker with a mere 18 minutes of erased tape. It’s a sad day for America when you start feeling nostalgic for Tricky Dick.
Here’s the link to the CREW web site and report: http://www.citizensforethics.org/
I read LS’s link at #3; it’s so good, I’m reposting it here: http://www.pressrelease365.com…..s-1275.htm
GSD @ 30
Destroying evidence is something that every American citizen will understand.
If covered at all by the traditional media, this story could be politically devastating to this administration.
legaleze @ 45
And make sure to read the McCaskill letter at the bottom with the evidence – lots of Gonzo obstruction there.
Another week and another scandal exposed. If I had a quarter for every time this band of criminals broke the law….
The unreality-based media never has the balls to dig in though! How many times have we figured that the tipping point had been reached only to see the next nauseating revelation shove the current one under the rug? Thankfully it’s all being documented on hundreds of servers across the progressive blogosphere.
That other dog ate the homework…
..and, Barney hit the delete key. Check his stool and maybe you’ll find a back-up tape or flash drive he ate.
Now we have something very simple that Joe Sixpack can understand. These White House zombies Rove has programmed signed a statement at the time of their employment which said they understood the law requires them to save U.S. Government correspondence.
I say we shoot Barney, and have an autopsy. Find those back-ups, hard drives and flash drives.
LS,
one more – Jean Carnahan’s Fired Up Missouri
http://www.firedupmissouri.com/
Ms. Jean may be able to help Mr. Lipari get in more direct touch with Senator McCaskill :)
MAN I LOVE THIS GUY
the adults are IN THE HOUSE..!!!
pardon the expression, (in the house) but how approprate is THAT?
mmm, dinos taste like chicken!
Wow, this thread is like reading a mob novel! Go, Christy.
EPU’d from Tula’s thread but on topic here I think:
Biodun @ 86
OT
Cozumel @ 42
Who’s going to tell TRex that his descendants are his dinner?
I’m going to try this link to this PDF one more time:
http://www.medicalsupplychain.com/pdfMcCaskill.pdf
noen @ 43
Someone was saying the other day that archaelogist know that one of the hardest things to destroy is evidence of a preexisting hole. This is similar. Think about it.
Nelson?!?!? *Floridian used to DINO do-nothing senators faints from shock*
LS @ 57
Try this: http://www.medicalsupplychain……askill.pdf
LS @ 56
Sorry, I just can’t get the link to work. Just go to the pressrelease link and scroll all the way down to read the letter.
Emptywheel has one up that says the emails aren’t the only thing the Whitehouse is stalling over.
http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah/
CNN.com has the “Leahy says Bush aids lying” about e-mails on front page.
Dick weed Imus is saying he’s “apologized enough” too.
This is the “good man” that Craig Crawford and alll those other beltway asschappers were defending?
-GSD
Encase forensic software
Hopefully they work the other side too, when can they start?
Lou Costello @ 58
Bingo!! Thanks!
Waxman goes after RNC E-mail Letter to Gonzo:
Waxman Asks Government Agencies to Preserve E-mails from RNC Accounts
Following briefings from the White House and Republican National Committee that revealed an extensive volume of e-mails regarding official government business may have been destroyed by the RNC, Chairman Waxman directs government agencies to preserve e-mails received from or sent to non-governmental e-mail accounts used by White House staffers. The Committee also requests that government agencies provide an inventory of all e-mails involving these accounts.
The briefing received by the Committee raises serious concerns about the White House compliance with the Presidential Records Act, which requires that the President “take all such steps as may be necessary to assure that the activities, deliberations, decisions, and policies that reflect the performance of his constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties are adequately documented and that such records are maintained as Presidential records.”
Waxman to Gonzo
#43, when it comes to computers it’s all “pseudo-random overwrite” as far as I’m concerned. But I think I get the point, and I’ve heard it before from many an IT pro, you can’t delete emails permanently; they can always be recovered.
Oh YES! The adults are in charge again!! Go Henry!! Spank those wankers!!
We are at one of those quickening moments again. Notice the specter of Al Qaeda is looming large again. They’re on the attack…there are new Americans being accused of working with Al Qaeda.
Time for another Keith O, nexus of politics and terrorism special.
Hold onto your seats kiddos, things are about to get bumpy.
-GSD
bdu @ 18
Of course you get it. They’re so entangled in their lies they’re already inadvertently telling the truth.
LS at 47, I’ll read the McGaskill letter. If it’s anything like the press release; I’m sure it’s well worth the read. BTW, the references to the two US attorneys found dead at home, one in her pool, raises a scary inference. Is that the intended inference or is that merely background to the medicare fraud investigation story?
There are very serious reasons for the crisis in confidence that permeates the American publics attitudes towards congress. Hidden energy policy, lies about WMD’s, hundreds of thousands of dead and injured, record breaking oil profits, scandal after scandal, most Americans heads are spinning. The main reason for this crisis in confidence is solid as Iraq.
Restoring the faith of the American public in this system is going to be one big job. It’s too late for thousands of dead.
Fitz, Leahy, Waxman, Conyers, Levin and others have started and many of us are so thankful.
Investigate!
De-escalate!
If every bit and byte of data that had ever been written to disk remained there in some cryptic form, wouldn’t all of these disks be full?
LS–thank you, thank you. I have been trying to get people to pay attention to the USA Todd Graves firing to awhile (and actually, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch even wrote an editorial in mid March asking Sen. McCaskill to get Durbin to look into it) to little avail. Maybe this will be the tipping point.
sweet, sweet accountability.
I am deeply disturbed that just when this Administration is finally subjected to meaningful oversight, it cannot produce the necessary information. This Administration has worn out the benefit of the doubt and undermined whatever credibility it had left. The American people are right that they are entitled to full and honest public testimony of the White House staff responsible for this debacle.
I want that on a tshirt. Or a little card that I can hand to people. Or something. To the mattresses, Senator!
if the republicans had any clue how to get re elected, they would be the ones insisting on this data
and if that data is as incriminating as we all know it’s going to be, that would set them up to demand themselves impeachment
that would get them another term for their next elections…if they want to remain in office, this is their path
now we have to demonstrate that path to them because they will ALL do whatever is needed to remain in office
My guess,however,is that cheney will insist that the stonewalling,and refuseal to co-operate will contine to the end of this term.I have my doubts that they can keep enought attention on this to score.The media will continue to try the “look look shiny”,and roves evil will go unpunished
Absolutely, thank you Senator Leahy!
For a Harvard MBA, he’s a quite the hands-off executive.
The Board of Directors need to fire his arse…
Jack
Someone was saying the other day that archaelogist know that one of the hardest things to destroy is evidence of a preexisting hole. This is similar. Think about it.
As an archaeologist, I gotta say that is true. The damned planet is full of poorly filled-in holes.
Kathleen @ 72, I know you know that credit has to be given to the blogs, too. This one for instance. Thanks to all the essayists and commenters and guests. Americans doing what Americans should do. I’m proud.
legaleze @ 69
Scary is what I thought. Someone posted about the 2 dead US attorneys somewhere the other day, and I searched the net and couldn’t find anything on it. It was a cryptic post with no links. Seems it’s true. Anyone else remember that post?
Spector and some of the other Republicans are starting to look beat down. Too bad they did not do their jobs when they had the opportunity. They were more interested in investigating lies told under oath about b/j’s, than investigating a WMD intelligence snowjob. Twisted priorities.
Have not seen any pictures of Senator Pat Roberts for quite some time. Is that guy hiding under a rock?
Tap Duncan @ 19
Amen! Excellent post!
> A comentator on Huff post earlier today:
> There is no such think as a “lost’ or ”
> deleted” email. It may be overwritten with
> random numbers and characters numerous times
> but it can’t be erased or deleted barring the
> complete physical destruction of the hard
> drive.
I am giving up after this post ;-(
The information above is not correct. It is being splashed all over all the liberal blogs, but it is simply not reality-based. Just for starters: “of the hard drive”. The hard drive. THE. A typical ISP-level system will use a SAN that can contain up to _hundreds_ of hard drives; the information is spread out among them in a manner that might as well be random. There is no “Norton Undelete” for storage units at that level of capability. And such units often run purge-and-scrub routines in the background automatically for sercurity purposes.
I give up.
Cranky
“Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the songs of angry men?”
It’s the music of a people who will not be fooled again…
C & L must’ve cut off the end where Senator Leahy directs the White House to “go outside and bring me back a switch!”
hey cranky, come back !
does this (pdf warning) look at all interesting to you ?
http://www.ctin.org/Presentations/Internet Forensics.pdf
the degree of complication and the mass of information that needs to be processed in all of this is breathtaking. this is historic and the sheer size and intricacy of what needs to be dealt with makes it extremely important that enough people and equipment be delegated to deal with it or too many important baddies are going to slip through the cracks. this requires vigilence and determination the likes of which has never previously been employed.
Here’s another juicy tidbit. Our cups runneth over.
Wolfowitz sings.
“The Assistant U.S. Attorney in Ft. Worth Texas who signed the subpoenas against Novation LLC passed away as did the Ft. Worth office’s Assistant Attorney in charge of Medicare Fraud two months earlier.”
This is a quote from the McCaskill letter. Sounds weird, but I don’t know what it means.
Five million missing email is insane. There’s no way anyone can interpret this as anything other than a concerted effort to circumvent the law and obstruct justice. On the bright side, if Bush and Cheney are incriminated, then we could be looking at Nancy Pelosi as our first female president. Sorry Hillary.
guidance software resources
List of resources on the Guidance Software website. Includes pdf’s on relevant legal aspects. Much of it particular to encase but some is more general. There is also a link to a legal journal that I can’t link to but includes this:
Or in other words, they can conduct an investigation on a live system remotely. Someone’s goose is thoroughly cooked.
Balrog @
89
Cripes. GSD reported this last hour. I need to spend more time here and less time actually working…
cbl @ 87
You’ve got a 404 on the link, there.
What I remember from my undergrad anthropology courses (ancient history, in itself) is that much of archeology is basically going through a culture’s ancient “trash”, i.e. shell middens, or huge piles of discarded sea shells.
5 million emails is a BIG pile of (what they thought was) trash.
Sally @ 81
yes to the blogs and to the people who were out on the streets in the millions before the invasion and after. And to all the Americans who wrote petitions, sent e-mails, letters, made phone calls lobbied, etc.
Imagine if we continue to apply this pressure. Maybe we can apply enough pressure to witness a national health care plan. Imagine that!
I know for many pressuring our leaders has been a full time unpaid job. For me (55) I have just started looking for land in Costa Rica with friends. The first time that I have ever been this serious about getting out of here.
OT–but definitely related:
DOJ has gone beserk:
GSD @
69
But, who will capitalize on this new arrest (in ohio?) like Ashcroft did during the first term? Abu is busy cramming, Cheney is no longer believed, and the Preznit would rather talk about immigration or how the Congress needs to OBEY. I’m not sure the nexii of terror and politics are still operative; they may need to ramp up the fear. Very bumpy, indeed.
Did they authorize the subpoenas? Or did they issue them? I’m a bit confused but what else is new? Thanks!
Balrog – Sounds like Wolfowitz is toast.
P J Evans @
56
The Circle of Life ;-)
Cranky’s right.
Even if the data doesn’t reside on SAN/NAS storage and the filesystems are local to that particular server (which is quite likely in an outfit that doesn’t possess massive storage units), once files are removed they can’t be retrieved unless they were somehow replicated. There are countless technologies available to make your data safe and in many cases redundant and/or highly available, but clearly there are reasons not to apply this technology if you choose not to.
LS at 82. Read the letter. OMG! No wonder the cost of my health care insurance has tripled over the last fifteen years. And the letter also mentions the death of the two US attorneys and the firing of three others with experience in health care fraud. I’m going to take a wild assed guess here and say that Novation or its officers/key shareholders were big Bush/Cheney supporters . . . .
It’s kind of amazing that they got away with so much, with so many people, for so long.
Balrog @ 89
If only he keeps singing. Put this dude back in the spotlight for the major role that he played lying us into Iraq.
Dear Christy,
I also think that Leahy, Waxman and Conyers deserve a huge public thank you, and thank you for doing so. Might I also suggest that everyone that reads this post take the time to go over to each of their web sites and send them a message not only thanking them for their determination and focus, but to encourage them to dig deeper, and to hold bush, cheney, gonzo, and all of the high officials envolved in this and other crimes acountable through impeachment (and of course eventual war crimes trials, but that’s another topic). I did this earlier, and I have done this several times in recent weeks. I remember hearing that when the question of issuing subpeonas for Rove and Miers was being tossed around that Leahy said his server was almost crashed with the email he received, and 9 out of every 10 emails was supportive. That is the kind of message we need to be sending to these guys. Forget Pelosi, she has too much to gain from impeachment, and she will simply need to step aside once momentum is too great to stop impeachment.
It’s ours to have people. Force impeachment by contacting your representatives on a daily basis. We can come to places like this and rant all we want, but the real action happens when our Rep’s are feeling the heat.
Cranky Observer @ 85
Forensic software is a little more sophisticated than Norton. I’ve given links to Encase. Why don’t you read through them a little and see for your self? It’s powerful software that can investigate a live system. But maybe you are right and it doesn’t work on SAN’s. I am not an expert but I do think there is reason to have some hope.
Balrog at 93. I know what you mean. I won’t tell your employer if you don’t tell mine. Deal?
Hey somebody has to give a damn, right? Who else is going to fight for justice if not you and me?
LS @ 100
another example of the banality of evil. wolfowitz is a small man.
Ninja Goat -
let me try that again
link
this one should work
fyi – found it in an article purporting use of a private, commerical, IM protocol by NSA employees
alledgedly as a means to circumvent Data Retention requirements
so if I don’t post for a few days one of y’all better come lookin’ for me :)
LS @ 100
He’s attempting the old stand-by: Admission is absolution. Not so fast Wolfie. There are some folks that are gonna have some questions for ya!
I haven’t been able to read everything lately, but Christy spoke of something that might happen to her, and I was wondering if I missed it.
kdh22 @ 111
Time to “lawyer up”.
and remember kidz – Wolfowitz didn’t ship his paramour off to just any State Dept. posting – she worked with the aforeposted Liz Cheney
The DLC is not one of ‘us’. That is to say they are not progessive. Name the liberal or progressive accomplishments based on this little group’s activities. Dislike Lieberman? Sure. I do too. But a special place should be reserved at the progressive and liberal table of wrath for the Democratic Leadership Council. And those who consort with same.
I want to see the stuff from before 2004. That’s the Presidential election stuff. All sorts of bad things were done then. Spying on protesters in NY, problems with voting in Ohio, Swiftboat, gas prices. That’s just some of the obvious stuff.
Here is a post from Think Progress today, quoting Froomkin in the WaPo (I think, but I never read the budding right wing rag):
Smartypants @ 91
AND, this is the kind of a scandal that ANY American can understand.
Question:
I’m looking at the list of U.S. attorneys and an asterisk indicates ones that are “presidentially appointed”. What does that make the others?
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/offices/index.html
The pain in my heart and tears in my eyes are keeping me from reading right now. God Bless you all and Godspeed this investigation.
Does Wolfie still lick his combs?
INTERESTING
Puesto @ 117
It’s beating a dead horse, but here’s the “Records Management” page of EOP, which basically says that everything is a record:
http://www.eop.gov/OA/rcdsmgmt/rcdsmgmt.html
noen,
I haven’t read the article (but I will). Unless the firewall is permeable, doing a remote live scan on a system isn’t likely, whether or not the data resides on a SAN.
noen @ 121
Eeewwww!
noen @ 121
He dips them in blood.
Texas Betsy @ 118
Yeah, who hasn’t written an email, sent it, and immediately thought, “oh shit, where’s the take-back key?”
oooh, NM isn’t one of the 18 states with a recall provision are they ??? :)
Lou Costello @ 122
WOW! Would Gov. Richardson be able to appoint a new D Senator from New Mexico?
you are definitely the bomb!
Chris-ty! Chris-ty! Chris-ty!
Jay @ 124
Well, if it is part of a legal investigation the firewall would be configured to allow it. We aren’t talking about a hostile intrusion here. The investigators would presumably have legal authority to go in.
Cranky and Noen and Jay:
Although the public servers are routinely “scrubbed” there’s a question of whether any “questionable” e-mails made it onto their Blackberry’s. Don’t know what kind of storage they typically use, but if an e-mail was downloaded to a local storage device, it should be recoverable unless an individual user took care to “scrub” it. (ie, “deleting” the e-mail doesn’t erase it). (But I agree with Cranky if the e-mails stayed on publicly available servers.) Just a point of speculation on my part.
I may be technically illiterate – but
isn’t remote, live scanning, exactly what NSA does ?!?!?
cbl @ 128
I was wondering the same thing.
OT: Tom Davis took some smartass San Franciscan’s question, although most he chose were from his district:
Oh, snap!
Kathleen @ 96, don’t leave. We need all the help we can get to keep the momentum going.
kdh22 @ 125
Brought to you courtesy of the incomparable TBogg
mayan @ 99
authorized but not yet issued.
This inventory should be provided to the Committee by May 3, 2007.
Waxman is an awesome human being, but please, Henry, just find a way to go and get the computers, blackberrys, whatever, yourselves… hire whoever you need to do the searches… now.
I realize it’s a courtesy to ask for the stuff to be turned over respectfully, but we’ve been down this road and they. are. not. going. to. comply.
Justathought.
Remember the Suskind article where the Bushies bragged about “creating their own reality?”
Leahy is going to drag them kicking and screaming into HIS.
sonate @ 132
Doesn’t SendMail routinely back itself up locally?
Wouldn’t you have to go to each and every server that the email passed through and scrub not only the drive, but the back-up as well?
We know what the terminated attorneys are up to. But what of the attorneys who were not fired? What are they doing? And why are they still there.
Answering my own earlier question…and asking another one.
The subpoenas have been authorized, not issued. That means they aren’t out the door. With all due love and respect to the Congressionals…what, strategically are they waiting for? It really seems as if time is of the essence…unless they are sitting on some evidence which puts them in the catbird seat, I don’t know why -particularly when they’ve already issued other subpoenas- they are not letting fly immediately with the ones they voted on. Any thoughts?
TeddySanFran @ 135
I like SF. Some really snarky people there!
Ever notice how when big issues come about, Hillary is particularly quiet?
whooops…thanks TiredFed…we must have cross-posted…if that’s a word.
cbl @
128
I don’t think recall is legal for federal offices; ie Congress..
And, the article on Domenici also said he has a campaign war chest, and it was speculating on whether he would run in 2008. “Retire” was only discussed in that context. He is early 70’s in age… like his buddy McCain.
If the White House/RNC email system is similar to the one in use on HHS computers, all “sent” email is saved.
Plus, I keep a “CYA” folder of email that concerns things I have done or have to do, plus one for email related to policy matters.
I weed the Inbox and folders pretty faithfully, but there’s a lot of saved email on my system, and I’m betting that many recipients kept things even if the Sender didn’t.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 145
OK,
… but, but, she chimed in on Imus! (big f***ing deal).
We dont need them all do we?
Just enough to know they cheated.
Maybe it doesnt even matter how much they say, just so its about WH business.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 142
One who may have escaped the purge by the skin of his teeth. And how he may have done it.
Brisingamen @ 148
Yes, and I think there have actually cases where people have been convicted on just such evidence. Could be wrong too I suppose.
Puesto -
thanks! just got back from a google where I pretty much learned the same – the Constitution does not provide States any kind of recall relief
brendan @ 119
makes them Abu’s minions. not appointed means either Interim (apptd by Abu) or Acting (no one in the job and Asst is Acting)
Okay, this’ll be my last comment, but I don’t think any emails remain AND sorry to say, I don’t think there are any emails saved by *whistleblower* types either.
These guys are scary; too scary to mess with. I think we can only get them on obstruction, at best. Sigh.
Eureka Springs @ 129
ssssshhhhhhhhh!
swoosh @ 140
True dat.
Boy, talk about a comment coming back to bite you in the arse!
dang. 5 million emails. if they dump that on us on a Friday, it’s gonna have to be a real long weekend! oh well, I’ve been married for 20 years. what else am I gonna do?
Jenny from the Blog -
hey – long time no comment!
I will take “obstruction” as I believe it falls rather neatly in to that whole High Crimes and Misdemeanor thingy
ooh did I mention there are penalties for that ? ;)
let’s see. 5,000,000 times 5 years per offense is . . .
Jenny from the Blog @
139
I think the enforcement arm for a Subpoena from Congress is its Seargent at Arms. They need a majority in Congress to invoke this power. They will never do it. So, unfortunately, this is like the dog chasing the car… What does he do when he catches it.
Herein lies the problem: THESE GUYS WILL NEVER GET THAT CONFRONTATIONAL. NEVER! Especially against this brash and bullying administration. They will get you over time. And, they have Faux News to beat the drum and have the Rove civilian goon squad of zombies – not to mention Pat Robertson’s Christian Fundy Soldiers – tell the world that up is down, Pelosi is a communist operative and all Dems are socialist who just want to eat your lunch and steal your money.
Swoosh at 140; great idea, beautifully expressed with just the right amount of snark. Well done.
Bustednuckles @
61
Emptywheel is on fire today: 6 posts already on TNH!
Bob in HI
Is it not time to flog James Knodell again? You know, the guy in charge of preventing White House security breaches?
So now we have a few inconvenient attorneys who are sleeping with the fishes even.
-GSD
I like what Leahy is saying here, but I want to start hearing more like this:
Jenny from the Blog @ 155
I don’t believe the emails are gone. Unless they took a drill and drilled a hole through the platen that data is still there. The only question I see is the willingness to go after it.
sonate,
I’m curious about the notion that a deleted email isn’t really deleted? I think a lot of people believe that and I’d like to know more detail if there’s any truth behind that. I doubt it.
cbl, I think that the NSA uses ’snooping’ technology to capture packets that traverse the open internet. They don’t scan servers (unless AT&T, Verizon, et al. have given them the keys to their data….which of course they have). If there was an attempt to remotely access a system that was protected by a firewall, regardless of who made the attempt, the firewall at least warn the network security personnel.
kdh22 @
125
only after he combs his toes…
Hey there, cbl! :)
Whoa…ok you lawyers, does this have any legal ramification?
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.c…..013597.php
(Josh’s latest about the WH email policy that was updated in 2004 because, because…well, you know, our favorite USAtty was asking for WH emails. So lawyers, if the WH was told to follow a new policy in 2004 and DID NOT…??)
mayan @ 146
no worries. I’m just slow is all.
Many good people in Vermont have been supporting and urging on Patrick Leahy in his quest to return accountability to government. They deserve some thanks as well, although clearly Senator Leahy has been doing the heavy lifting and deserves great praise for his work on behalf of the American public.
It is important that each and every one of us holds his/her representatives in Congress accountable for continuing to prusue the truth here. Trust is a key ingredient in the fabric that allows this country to survive. If doubt remains, if trust cannot be re-established, if we continue to move towards a country that is suspicious, divided, living in fear, then what is most precious about this nation will disappear. I urge all of you to write your representative, and to insist that they take a stand and communicate with you about their actions.
legaleze @
23
Hmmm. How do the RNC notebooks get a network connection within the Whitehouse? I can’t believe they’d be using dial-up.
Lou Costello @ 122
Domenici’s exit would make things interesting. Maybe then Bill Richardson would drop out of the presidential race to run for Senate. That would be excellent.
noen @ 165
I’d like to think the emails still exist, but my gut tells me they’ve been long destroyed… permanently. Why doesn’t anyone think they’re capable of smashing every last piece of equipment to smithereens? They’re smashing everything else, for crying out loud. Piece of cake.
Brisingamen @ 148
I used to be a network adminstrator in “the old days” – mid 1990’s and we had a nightly back up tape of everything on the local network.
I have seen no dialog in blogs on this subject talking about “back ups.” Today, what I would do is buy a flash drive, plug it into my USB port and save my own copies.
Waxman should subpoena all electronic devices used by named employees. You know damn well these guys have copies at home, and not on paper. Flash drives and formal back-ups are the deal.
Also, why does he not Subpoena the network administrator for the RNC servers, and or network?
Most pols, like Congressional aids are brain dead when it comes to tech. They like Machiavellian intrigue. Not digits and bytes.
Smartypants @
174
Not likely. Richardson is looking more attractive all the time as a compromise presidential candidate.
Yeah, if it’s one thing these folks know how to do really, really well, it’s smash stuff. Lie, cheat, steal — and break shit into smithereens. I guess it comes from all that frog-blowing-up at a young age.
Breaking: CREW says Five Million emails are missing. Link goes to BMT, CREW’s site is down (probably overwhlemed).
Martha -
this might be applicable
TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 73 > 1505
1505. Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees
fahrender @
88
I hope Leahy, Conyers, & Waxman have some data mining experts on call. Or maybe just TPM & the netroots?
Bob in HI
Man, if U.S. Senator Domenici (R) “retires,” in a state whose (D) Governor can name a (D) successor to the U.S. Senate, two thoughts:
and
/snark
ralphbon @ 163
I think Knodell may be in Dubai…
kdh22 @
183
Why Dubai? Have they outsourced White House security there now?
kdh22 @ 183
Did he depart the US on a small plane?
For God’s sake, I used to work at a Howard Johnson’s and we’d back up the computer everynight.
This is beyond absurd.
Now the press has Dana Perrino bumbling and stumbling and lying, already.
Starting to smell a little desperate.
No wonder Gonzales’s world came to a halt…He’ll never be able to lie his way through this tangle of distortions and spin and outright crookery.
-GSD
OT. Almost forgot. President Pelosi will guest on Jay Leno’s show tonight.
http://electioncentral.tpmcafe….._editorial
Ed*ard Teller @ 168
OK you guys stop that! Double EEEWWWW!
Jay,
I defer to my technical betters – and recommend you go here and sift through their stuff on the AT&T suit – they have indeed turned over the keys
http://www.eff.org/
http://www.1115.org/2007/04/10…..s-firings/
In a typical email environment, a message gets sent from, say Karl Rove’s laptop through a mail server and then probably through a relay host that sits on a DMZ (straddles inside and outside the wild, wild web) and out to the internet and takes a similar course as it works it’s way to its final destination on the other side. The relays don’t save the data, they are only a passthrough (however it’s certainly possible for this data to be captured and replicated along the way, though not likely unless someone is purposely trying to capture the data). The final resting place of the message depends on how the recipient has configured their mail client. It can either sit on the mail servers storage, or it will ‘pop’ to the recipient’s computer. If it gets popped before the backup server storage captures the data to a backup, it’s not going to be saved anywhere along the way.
Ed*ard Teller @ 184
In advance of Holy Halliburton’s coming to the region. “Security” is the only legit business don’t cha know?
oooh Senator Madrid has a nice ring to it doesn’t it ?
I have to say that, of all people, Wolfowitz was not the one I would’ve pegged to be taken down by a sex scandal. If there’s photos or video, this is one of those rare cases where I really hope it never hits the Internet.
mc @
95
The history of civilization is written from compilations of discarded memos, aka trash. MSNBC’s recent Easter weekend show, The Gospel of Judas, is a detective story about one such old piece of trash. One of the tragedies of the Iraq Occupation is that memo dumps that are about 4,000 years old are being looted, with many bits destroyed, because some collectors will buy those discarded records.
Imagine 1,000 years from now someone discovering an archive of Rove’s Blackberried emails. What would it tell them about that antique piece of geography formerly known as the United States?
Bob in HI
Jenny from the Blog @ 174
Yes, if a HD is physically destroyed you can’t reclaim the data. On the enterprise level data isn’t stored on hard drives, it’s on logical volumes that may span several physical drives. Still, forensic software makers claim they can recover anything short of the destruction of the HD itself.
On your home PC, you can delete a partition and then install a new OS on top of it, use it for a while and even then still recover the old partition and the old data. I know, I’ve done it.
Data can also be recovered from the flash media that is popular these days.
Frank Probst @ 194
Seconded!
Lou Costello @ 122
To spend more time with his family blah blah blah.
Or, more likely, to spend more time with his $600 an hour white collar defense attorney.
Frank Probst @ 194
I do NOT want to see video of THIS scandal!
My name for the current layer of deceit – DogAteGate
Aarrrfff!
Does anyone (besides me) think that the Pres. is losing weight?
Do you think the new Congress is making him a tad fretful?
Frank Probst @ 194
I’m with you there!
I’m no computer savant, but every one of those friggin’ e-mails is somewhere. It is a matter of tracking them down.
Jenny from the Blog @ 155
Ah, but where did I mention whistleblowers? I said the WH/RNC computers may be set to automatically save sent messages, and the way HHS’ work, the message being replied to is appended to the Sent message.
I know some folks who save all the messages they receive in a folder on their computer so they can refer back to them. I do this with messages that request some sort of action from me, so I can note when the matter is taken care of…
This doesn’t require a whistleblower, just an obsessive/compulsive that saves stuff like email.
5,000,000 reasons for justice.
solai @ 201
I just know his hair is turning more gray. You look at pictures, say, six months ago, and ones now… Gray.. Probably getting ready for his Messiah role.
Even Lee Iacocca is starting to say he is a little “messianic.” I am telling you, this Emperor Bush guy is absolutely a crazy megalomaniac.
New DOJ info coming up on CNN…wonder what that will be?
AZ Matt @ 202
Especially if he’s still wearing socks:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/…..-of-socks/
Elections do have consequences, and that’s why Rove was so focused in the swing states on ‘voter fraud’ and placing ‘loyal Bushies’ in the USA positions. He knows that even if there are absolutely no basis for their claims, the RNC would run negative ads against any Dem running, pointing out the ‘rampant voter fraud’ that exists in the state or district. We all are painfully aware that these attacks work. However, by ‘08, the Rethug rep will be so tarnished, and people so disgusted, that their horrid dirty election tricks will not win for them.
Brisingamen @ 203
Exactly.
and the rnc could pull every drive on their systems and burn them and still, someoone somewhere will have emails saved on their PC. Or maybe they backup their blackberry to their PC.
The emails are out there.
Now how many people walk around with holes in their socks if they don’t have to? That’s pathetic.
From CNN:
Yes, obtaining more information will undermine an investigation every time. Definitely.
ironranger @ 211
My son doees, but he is 12 and not taking well to the process of becoming civilized.
ironranger @ 211
That is telltale behavior of a chronic combsucker.
Lou Costello @ 207
I can just see him in a few years pushing a shopping cart full of plastic bags down the mall…
There’s a pic I’d like to see.
allan_in_upstate @ 212
The man is a repub. Did you expect him to make sense?
So … did Gonzales use an RNC email account??
and did W???
I have heard that stuff that travels across the Net, like e-mails, has its headers (the routing information) saved on every node (server) it travels through. The contents probably won’t be there, though. (If you use an e-mail provider like Netaddress, ‘more info’ will show you that stuff. It’s techy info.) This is part of the stuff that NSA wants the ISPs to keep forever. (Maybe Leahy, Conyers and Waxman need to call in the spooks!)
And yes, the backups. Get the backups, guys!
ds @ 217
You can’t ask questions like that! Not in this country! Shhhh!
ds @
217
ohhhhhhhhhhh!!
Bombshell…
from TPM Muckraker
allan_in_upstate @ 212
“some people” – again with “some people”. I don’t know who “some people” are, but they seem to always be thinking the most ludicrous things.
Wonder what it would take to flip Gonzo? Not much, I’d be willing to bet.
ds @ 215
Abu doesn’t do email, allegedly
Gotta run but at Truthout.org David Swanson says Bill Moyers has a 90 minute video airing on PBS on April 25th at 9pm that can’t be missed…
(drum roll please…)
“Bill Moyers has put together an amazing 90-minute video documenting the lies that the Bush administration told to sell the Iraq war to the American public, with a special focus on how the media led the charge. I’ve watched an advance copy and read a transcript, and the most important thing I can say about it is: Watch PBS from 9:00 to 10:30 PM on Wednesday, April 25.”
Be still my beatin’ heart!
Texas Betsy @ 219
To think of it… that might be an out for them. If GW used the system they may claim exec privilege.
Ed*ard Teller @ 200
I like it! :)
puesto:
A couple of points.
1) Froomkin is about the only reason the ComPost has readers from the left.
2) I thnk you give the WH staffers WAY too much credit when you describe how you would do a personal back-up these days. Most of these folkks are not that technically literate.
ironranger @ 211
He’s a freak! It’s always been a theory of mine (absolutely no proof to back it up of course, cuz it’s just MY theory) that the “gifted” brain (I understand he’s a highly intellectual guy) has to surrender some of its growth in other areas, and it’s been my experience that this lack of development is usually in the areas of emotion maturity or social skills. Apparently, Wolfie has experienced a little less growth in both of those areas.
noen @ 220
And how many Jeff Gannon love notes are they going to find? Inquiring minds want to know!
Gonzo will be in place until the last days of this junta or he is impeached! Why? A new Attorney General would have to clean shop & the current list of dirty tricks is, I am afraid, just the surface scum.
————
Smartypants @ 174
Domenici’s exit would make things interesting. Maybe then Bill Richardson would drop out of the presidential race to run for Senate. That would be excellent.
————
Ed*ard Teller @ 177
Not likely. Richardson is looking more attractive all the time as a compromise presidential candidate.
While I was looking for an article at National Review or Weekly Standard that someone had written about Richardson. I found this petition check it out. A McCain no surrender petition. Please do not sign it.
http://www.johnmccain.com/invo…..t=petition
From the AP, referring to Rahm Emanuel memo:
I just wish these MSM writers would get more reality based in their language..
It should say “..Bush as increasingly detached from REALITY.“
That is the real truth.
oh, I don’t know . . .
(c) CNN, 2001
did I mention they purchase bandwidth and storage by the acre ?
Russell Tice to the Leahy Courtesy Phone, Russell Tice . . .
Cozumel @ 224
Neither does W. – He tried hitting the shift key once, but the transmission didn’t do anything.
Cozumel @ 224
… and even when he did, he simply couldn’t recall what he read or wrote… very sad…
kdh22 @ 229
Aspergers?
S.O.S. from MA @ 236
… and even when he did, he simply couldn’t recall what he read or wrote… very sad…
Abu and Shrub do it old school la familia style….a “sit-down”
#s 235 & 236 – co-jinx! :)
noen @ 237
Is Aspergers a condition of the brain?
Jenny from the Blog @
175
What hasn’t been said much about this is that when any email is sent, there are automatically at least two copies: the sender’s, and the recipient’s. So to destroy the emails, you have to eliminate the copies at both ends. And, of course, if there were Cc’s or Bcc’s, there are even more copies.
I don’t know about you, but if I’m Jane Q Underling, and I get a memo from Karl Rove, the one thing I would never do is delete it. Maybe save it to show the grandkids someday.
It is not impossible to delete all existing copies of an email, but its not that easy, either. Someone would have to be determined, smart, a bit fanatical, and have time on his/her hands, and probably the skills of a hacker. Besides, I’ll bet some of that stuff is archived in “Read only” files, which can’t be erased unless you’re the “administrator.” And some people print out hard copies.
I’m hopeful that this is the Rosie Woods event for this administration!
Bob in HI
kathleen @ 96
I have an acre and a quarter of land in Marbella about a mile and a half from the beautiful Pacific. Hilltop, beautiful view. It’s for sale or trade…
It is on the Autism spectrum, but very high-functioning academically, though not socially. I have a brother with aspbergers.
Via @ 223
I don’t think Abu will flip. I keep thinking of Monica, however. I know nothing about her, but she seems very aware of the trouble she’s in.
kdh22 @ 240
IIRC yes, it’s a mild form of autism, characterized (again IIRC) by an inability to empathize with others – “emotional blindness” is a term I’ve heard. Other FirePups, I’m sure, will chime in with better definitions. HTH
always thought it would involve saran hair and a valve stem
I just Wikied Aspergers (that sounds vile doesn’t it?) I suppose that could be his affliction. I just think he’s freaky and I never want to see any porn of hiM and his woman on the internet…NEVER EVER!
CBS radio dumped IMUS show
per CNN, Imus canned by CBS radio
twolf1 @ 248
Whoa!
So maybe Tom cruise will stop by and kidnap Wolfie and the two will go on a cross country road trip. I can see the movie title now… “Wolfie”.
You know, Hatch and Public Records acts aside, shouldn’t Congress (I think this flips to Waxman’s committee, bc Lieberman’s committee serves no worthwhile purpose while he chairs it) have some interest not just in the records aspect of this; but also in the time devoted to political activities by public servants on the public dole?
If, for example, Rove sends 100 RNC related emails a day, even if there is nothing black and evil in them, how is he earning his public funded salary? Or the others?
And if those emails show devotion of other significant portions of the “day job” time devoted to RNC matters for any of them – shouldn’t that get some further explanation?
twolf1 @ 248
Unfortunately, this wil be the lead on the evening news.
Perhaps Don is taking a bullet for Karl.
kdh22 @ 183
Oh no, I think we go straight to Fred Fielding.
I think even he’s aghast at just how incompetent these fuckers are. He’s probably wondering what happend to Cheney, who was so useful in his last two cover-ups, Watergate and Iran-Contra.
http://www.markfiore.com/animation/mcrove.html
If you haven’t seen this latest from Markfiore, check it out.
lolo
Swopa is upstairs, fyi
noen @ 251
Tehehehe!
fyi – our own Renee in Ohio has a son with Aspberger’s -
her blogs
http://www2.blogger.com/profil…..9127525003
cbl @ 258
Thanks I’ll read.
Emergency! Trex must see this ASAP!
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/s…..index.html
I anxiously await any response…
Surely there aren’t any chicken-hawks in the family?! :)
Alan Johnstons dad just read a piece on BBC. Rip your heart out. There is a petition at the BBC website for Alans release. Sign this one.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6518185.stm
Just so happen’s Cheney’s Plame civil suit lawyer is Bush’s special counsel handling the production fo the MZM docs (non-production so far) to Waxman.
Mary4 @ 262
Oh, the webs that are weaved!
If you didn’t hear the NPR “Day To Day” show today (here), after they finished interviewed Waxman Wednesday, the AP “we lost the emails” story came across the wires. They ran out to the parking lot and grabbed the Congressman and let him read the story. He came back in and continued the interview. Good radio. (Apologies if this is covered upthread, I’m fitting this in with work…)
Byrd up on CSPAN2…
Mary4 @ 262
Mary,
DO you have a link to that, please?
One last comment on the email scandal and its technical aspects. Bob @241, you’re right, there are automatically at least two copies of an email, but what’s so hard about the sender deleting his sent mail (not from a policy standpoint, purely technical) and the recipient deleting the received message once it reaches their inbox and they’ve got the message?
Earlier reference to headers being saved etc. Every server that the message has touched from source to destination will have a system log that identifies the message ID, a timestamp, sender and recipient. Nothing more (again this applies to the UNIX world but I can’t imagine there’s much difference in the way the mail is handled if every server is running a different OS).
solai @ 244
It seems Monica’s attorney is setting her up for a plea deal to throw a higher-up under the bus. BUT, her own website a few years ago made a religiously zealot comment about Americans have become to obsessed with “the individual.”
Thus, she ranks pretty high on the Authoritarian scale… along with, say, Mussolini and Franco, ie; Fascist.
Mary4 @ 252
See Marcy at the Next Hurrah on this issue. 95%
Samuel Lipari’s (Medical Supply Chain) story is worth looking into. The details I have been able to verify (Thelma Louise Quince Colbert’s death) check out, and the authenticity of the email will shortly be either confirmed or be shown to be false. Thanks LS for posting those links.
I know I have been saying this for 4 years but ‘Doesn’t the Bush Administration look a lot like a criminal enterprise?’
Seriously, What is the point of RICO again?
I’m jest saying
Who is this generations’ John Dean? This email stuff should shake out a few serious rats now.
Or not….cuz that is a serious amount of lawbeaking there.
so this will get epu’d and I’ll ask again if not answered
there are over 5 million emails missing
isn’t that 5 million counts against the act?
Could Bush declare martial law on some pretext? If so, does the phrase, Congress could not review the matter for a period of six months mean what it seems to mean? Could Congress be ordered to “shut up” and stop investigating?
From the view of the White House, maybe it looks like an emergency.
An, I can’t figure out how to take out the underline I accidentallly put in.
kdh22 @
125
I guess so, and that’s probably part of the reason he had to give her that extra $60,030 a year.
LS @
61
It’s because you don’t have a / between pdf and McCaskill. Try my correction.
Are those matts from Fema..
P J Evans @
9
Backup tapes. I’m tellin’ ya.
I’m coming in on this late, and because I’m supposedly working I haven’t read all the postings here, but I do have a theory to propose: Here where I work (exhibit design company), we back up everything on the server every evening. That is, in case our server crashes, we have all the work everybody’s been doing saved on DVDs.
Surely the RNC has the same policy? Any company or organization with a view to the long term and an ounce of understanding about computers and their exigencies, does this kind of backup. The RNC must be thinking longterm, it’s the nature of the beast. W will be gone eventually, and they’re supporting a whole lotta other repubs across the country.
Not only would they want to back up their work, so to speak, they’d want to cover their collective asses. If Leahy, etc., go after the RNC (which is their obvious next step), this is a question that needs asking.