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		<title>By: 8bEbgcBBi</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/11/skewed/#comment-617394</link>
		<dc:creator>8bEbgcBBi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 23:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-616796&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;malcolmjames @ 131 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Of course there’s no “conclusive” evidence that Paul Wellstone was assassinated; the Bush/Cheney FBI was on the scene before the NTSB even got there.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Think about it just in terms of political expediency: Wellstone was a thorn in the side of the Bush junta.  He was vehemently opposed to their plans for war in Iraq and he wasn’t playing politics about it.  He didn’t vote to authorize the war and he was pulling ahead of Norm Coleman in the Senate race.  They needed to gain control of the Senate in order to enact their plans for war and for a one party state.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;His plane mysteriously went down with zero radio contact, no warnings, nothing.  It was either a barometric bomb or it was an EMP device that fried the planes electronics.  If you don’t think the Military Industrial Complex (see: Carlysle Group/Halliburton) has the resources to bring down a small King Air plane, then you’re naive.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Either way, I haven’t been wrong about much with respect to the Bush junta’s rise to power and I’d be willing to bet your life that I’m right on this one.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Aren’t you concerned about posting this kind of speculation? What if it’s true? I’d hate to be you.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-616796"><em>malcolmjames @ 131 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Of course there’s no “conclusive” evidence that Paul Wellstone was assassinated; the Bush/Cheney FBI was on the scene before the NTSB even got there.</p>
<p>Think about it just in terms of political expediency: Wellstone was a thorn in the side of the Bush junta.  He was vehemently opposed to their plans for war in Iraq and he wasn’t playing politics about it.  He didn’t vote to authorize the war and he was pulling ahead of Norm Coleman in the Senate race.  They needed to gain control of the Senate in order to enact their plans for war and for a one party state.</p>
<p>His plane mysteriously went down with zero radio contact, no warnings, nothing.  It was either a barometric bomb or it was an EMP device that fried the planes electronics.  If you don’t think the Military Industrial Complex (see: Carlysle Group/Halliburton) has the resources to bring down a small King Air plane, then you’re naive.</p>
<p>Either way, I haven’t been wrong about much with respect to the Bush junta’s rise to power and I’d be willing to bet your life that I’m right on this one.</p>
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<p>Aren’t you concerned about posting this kind of speculation? What if it’s true? I’d hate to be you.</p>
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		<title>By: 8bEbgcBBi</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/11/skewed/#comment-617369</link>
		<dc:creator>8bEbgcBBi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 23:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was glad when the Dems won so I wouldn’t have to hear any more about Diebold machines, etc.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was glad when the Dems won so I wouldn’t have to hear any more about Diebold machines, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: malcolmjames</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/11/skewed/#comment-616796</link>
		<dc:creator>malcolmjames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 18:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Of course there’s no “conclusive” evidence that Paul Wellstone was assassinated; the Bush/Cheney FBI was on the scene before the NTSB even got there.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Think about it just in terms of political expediency: Wellstone was a thorn in the side of the Bush junta.  He was vehemently opposed to their plans for war in Iraq and he wasn’t playing politics about it.  He didn’t vote to authorize the war and he was pulling ahead of Norm Coleman in the Senate race.  They needed to gain control of the Senate in order to enact their plans for war and for a one party state.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;His plane mysteriously went down with zero radio contact, no warnings, nothing.  It was either a barometric bomb or it was an EMP device that fried the planes electronics.  If you don’t think the Military Industrial Complex (see: Carlysle Group/Halliburton) has the resources to bring down a small King Air plane, then you’re naive.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Either way, I haven’t been wrong about much with respect to the Bush junta’s rise to power and I’d be willing to bet your life that I’m right on this one.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course there’s no “conclusive” evidence that Paul Wellstone was assassinated; the Bush/Cheney FBI was on the scene before the NTSB even got there.</p>
<p>Think about it just in terms of political expediency: Wellstone was a thorn in the side of the Bush junta.  He was vehemently opposed to their plans for war in Iraq and he wasn’t playing politics about it.  He didn’t vote to authorize the war and he was pulling ahead of Norm Coleman in the Senate race.  They needed to gain control of the Senate in order to enact their plans for war and for a one party state.</p>
<p>His plane mysteriously went down with zero radio contact, no warnings, nothing.  It was either a barometric bomb or it was an EMP device that fried the planes electronics.  If you don’t think the Military Industrial Complex (see: Carlysle Group/Halliburton) has the resources to bring down a small King Air plane, then you’re naive.</p>
<p>Either way, I haven’t been wrong about much with respect to the Bush junta’s rise to power and I’d be willing to bet your life that I’m right on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: RealWorld</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/11/skewed/#comment-616773</link>
		<dc:creator>RealWorld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 18:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-616442&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;IrishJim @&lt;br /&gt;
                               40              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-616419&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;sumpl @ 22&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
OT- from HuffPo&lt;br /&gt;
Justice spokesman Brian Roehrkasse stopped short of saying the department would fight the subpoena. But he said legal concerns about violating privacy rights of people mentioned in the documents have kept Justice from releasing them.&lt;br /&gt;
——&lt;br /&gt;
Oh, no. What is it this time? Pages? Jeff Gannons run rampant? Hours of i-porn?&lt;br /&gt;
Where I work, Nothing is private on my computer. (And people get fired for any of the above.)&lt;br /&gt;
I look forward to every post- excellent brains at FDL.&lt;br /&gt;
——&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am confused, I thought the USA’s are public servants working at the pleasure of the President. BY Rove’s own accord they are political appointees. Suddenly, after the American people want to know what they were discussing about these political appointees is now of paramount importance to the appointees right to privacy? I see a constitutional showdown unfolding.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt; I can see that  the inJustice Dept has a legitimate requirement to protect certain personal information about their employees from arbitrary disclosure. I’ve signed tons of privacy agreements where a company say they will not disclose my information EXCEPT as required by law. BUT, isn’t a subpoena a legal requirement? What would&lt;br /&gt;
DOiJ say about a defendant who refused to respond to a subpoena because of privacy concerns?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-616442"><em>IrishJim @<br />
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<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-616419"><em>sumpl @ 22</em></a><br />
OT- from HuffPo<br />
Justice spokesman Brian Roehrkasse stopped short of saying the department would fight the subpoena. But he said legal concerns about violating privacy rights of people mentioned in the documents have kept Justice from releasing them.<br />
——<br />
Oh, no. What is it this time? Pages? Jeff Gannons run rampant? Hours of i-porn?<br />
Where I work, Nothing is private on my computer. (And people get fired for any of the above.)<br />
I look forward to every post- excellent brains at FDL.<br />
——</p>
<p>I am confused, I thought the USA’s are public servants working at the pleasure of the President. BY Rove’s own accord they are political appointees. Suddenly, after the American people want to know what they were discussing about these political appointees is now of paramount importance to the appointees right to privacy? I see a constitutional showdown unfolding.</p>
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<p> I can see that  the inJustice Dept has a legitimate requirement to protect certain personal information about their employees from arbitrary disclosure. I’ve signed tons of privacy agreements where a company say they will not disclose my information EXCEPT as required by law. BUT, isn’t a subpoena a legal requirement? What would<br />
DOiJ say about a defendant who refused to respond to a subpoena because of privacy concerns?</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/11/skewed/#comment-616686</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Malcolmjames — sorry, but there is no conclusive evidence that Paul Wellstone was assassinated as you said in 101 without qualification.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There were three investigations and none reached this conclusion or even close to it.  One of those investigations was overseen by Paul’s lawyer and principle fund raiser, who happens to be a leading US litigator in this field (Sam Kaplan) — and his report entirely independent of the NTSB investigation and analysis, ruled out this proposition.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It was a tragedy.  As someone who volunteered a year of my life to Paul’s first campaign (1990) bringing to the table 20 years of various Campaign Management skills and experience, I understand the immediate reaction to the plane crash — there must be some sort of conspiracy here.  But the very thorough investigation over several years produced absolutely no evidence of this.  Were there irregularities, yes, quite a few of them, but they don’t add up.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now why make an issue of this?  Well in many of our minds it diminishes Paul’s work, particularly the unfinished work still on the table, to construct a tale of that plane crash that is conspiracy fiction.  It conveys a message of “why bother” to the thousands of Minnesotians now engaged in trying to take back the Wellstone Seat.  It disempowers those who are moved to get involved and rebuild the team that made possible a true progressive politics.  That’s why.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Malcolmjames — sorry, but there is no conclusive evidence that Paul Wellstone was assassinated as you said in 101 without qualification.  </p>
<p>There were three investigations and none reached this conclusion or even close to it.  One of those investigations was overseen by Paul’s lawyer and principle fund raiser, who happens to be a leading US litigator in this field (Sam Kaplan) — and his report entirely independent of the NTSB investigation and analysis, ruled out this proposition.  </p>
<p>It was a tragedy.  As someone who volunteered a year of my life to Paul’s first campaign (1990) bringing to the table 20 years of various Campaign Management skills and experience, I understand the immediate reaction to the plane crash — there must be some sort of conspiracy here.  But the very thorough investigation over several years produced absolutely no evidence of this.  Were there irregularities, yes, quite a few of them, but they don’t add up.  </p>
<p>Now why make an issue of this?  Well in many of our minds it diminishes Paul’s work, particularly the unfinished work still on the table, to construct a tale of that plane crash that is conspiracy fiction.  It conveys a message of “why bother” to the thousands of Minnesotians now engaged in trying to take back the Wellstone Seat.  It disempowers those who are moved to get involved and rebuild the team that made possible a true progressive politics.  That’s why.</p>
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		<title>By: kathleen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/11/skewed/#comment-616617</link>
		<dc:creator>kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-616598&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;malcolmjames @ 126 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;With all due respect, I don’t consider mentioning violence against members of the Bush junta to be inappropriate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They have stolen the reins of government and proceeded to destroy our nation, the environment, our reputation, the treasury, etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At what point do we rise up and beat them down?  When is enough enough?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[&lt;em&gt;Modnote: this blog does not tolerate advocacy of violence against public officials, period.&lt;/em&gt;]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just  being tried for war crimes and receiving lifetime sentences.  Or being dropped down in Baghdad butt ass naked.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-616598"><em>malcolmjames @ 126 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>With all due respect, I don’t consider mentioning violence against members of the Bush junta to be inappropriate.</p>
<p>They have stolen the reins of government and proceeded to destroy our nation, the environment, our reputation, the treasury, etc.</p>
<p>At what point do we rise up and beat them down?  When is enough enough?</p>
<p>[<em>Modnote: this blog does not tolerate advocacy of violence against public officials, period.</em>]</p>
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<p>Just  being tried for war crimes and receiving lifetime sentences.  Or being dropped down in Baghdad butt ass naked.</p>
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		<title>By: kathleen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/11/skewed/#comment-616614</link>
		<dc:creator>kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-616396&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;GeorgeSimian @ 4 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I’m not a conspiracy nut after all!  This stuff really happens!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How about that WMD conspiracy?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-616396"><em>GeorgeSimian @ 4 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I’m not a conspiracy nut after all!  This stuff really happens!</p>
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<p>How about that WMD conspiracy?</p>
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		<title>By: malcolmjames</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/11/skewed/#comment-616598</link>
		<dc:creator>malcolmjames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;With all due respect, I don’t consider mentioning violence against members of the Bush junta to be inappropriate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They have stolen the reins of government and proceeded to destroy our nation, the environment, our reputation, the treasury, etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At what point do we rise up and beat them down?  When is enough enough?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[&lt;em&gt;Modnote: this blog does not tolerate advocacy of violence against public officials, period.&lt;/em&gt;]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect, I don’t consider mentioning violence against members of the Bush junta to be inappropriate.</p>
<p>They have stolen the reins of government and proceeded to destroy our nation, the environment, our reputation, the treasury, etc.</p>
<p>At what point do we rise up and beat them down?  When is enough enough?</p>
<p>[<em>Modnote: this blog does not tolerate advocacy of violence against public officials, period.</em>]</p>
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		<title>By: nolo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/11/skewed/#comment-616595</link>
		<dc:creator>nolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;he he!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;good diggin’!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;carry-on. . .&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he he!</p>
<p>good diggin’!</p>
<p>carry-on. . .</p>
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		<title>By: Nola Sue</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/11/skewed/#comment-616591</link>
		<dc:creator>Nola Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;nolo — in the words of Emily Latella, never mind.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;;-) and zzzzzzzz….&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nolo — in the words of Emily Latella, never mind.  </p>
<p>;-) and zzzzzzzz….</p>
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