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		<title>By: deandra</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/10/strange-bedfellows/#comment-616279</link>
		<dc:creator>deandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 11:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dan Abrams must not miss the forest for the trees.  Decency and doing the right thing should not be compromised by &lt;em&gt;FOX’s Noise.&lt;/em&gt;  To &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; do something because &lt;em&gt;FOX Noise&lt;/em&gt; wants you to do it, is insufficient reasoning.  For all the people (of any gender, color, race and religion) he’s gigglingly and snidely insulted over the years only to apologize after being caught — Don Imus needs to be fired at warp speed.  Opposing &lt;em&gt;FOX Noise&lt;/em&gt; has nothing to do with it.  Decency does.  &lt;b&gt;Cut your losses, Dan.&lt;/b&gt;  Don Imus is a dinosaur.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan Abrams must not miss the forest for the trees.  Decency and doing the right thing should not be compromised by <em>FOX’s Noise.</em>  To <b>not</b> do something because <em>FOX Noise</em> wants you to do it, is insufficient reasoning.  For all the people (of any gender, color, race and religion) he’s gigglingly and snidely insulted over the years only to apologize after being caught — Don Imus needs to be fired at warp speed.  Opposing <em>FOX Noise</em> has nothing to do with it.  Decency does.  <b>Cut your losses, Dan.</b>  Don Imus is a dinosaur.</p>
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		<title>By: bob h</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/10/strange-bedfellows/#comment-616273</link>
		<dc:creator>bob h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 11:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Recall the juvenile, nasty comments Imus made about Ned Lamont’s appearance.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: left dc in 72</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/10/strange-bedfellows/#comment-616150</link>
		<dc:creator>left dc in 72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-614984&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mandrake @ 166 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-614983&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Eureka Springs @ 165&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;We should remember this filth spews forth on public (leased to to GE and NBC and CBS) airwaves.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Which is why I don’t listen to any of their crap, with the exception of Olbermann.  Although I admit to catching snippets of Tweety and Scarborough before and after.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;why do you say the airwaves are leased. The spectrum which CBS holds is licensed and the licenseholder only pay nominal renewal fees. It is a license to print money and always has been. What is hopeful is digital packet broadcasting on the Internet and the end of licensed spectrum as an important vehicle. CBS news has always been crap. CBS has a better veneer when the news was run by Paley, Stanton and Cronkite. But their nightly news show was 12-15 of advertising out of 30 minutes and most of it was event coverage, in the entertainment mold. Couric is hopefully the last gasp for this crap.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-614984"><em>Mandrake @ 166 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-614983"><em>Eureka Springs @ 165</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>We should remember this filth spews forth on public (leased to to GE and NBC and CBS) airwaves.</p>
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<p>Which is why I don’t listen to any of their crap, with the exception of Olbermann.  Although I admit to catching snippets of Tweety and Scarborough before and after.</p>
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<p>why do you say the airwaves are leased. The spectrum which CBS holds is licensed and the licenseholder only pay nominal renewal fees. It is a license to print money and always has been. What is hopeful is digital packet broadcasting on the Internet and the end of licensed spectrum as an important vehicle. CBS news has always been crap. CBS has a better veneer when the news was run by Paley, Stanton and Cronkite. But their nightly news show was 12-15 of advertising out of 30 minutes and most of it was event coverage, in the entertainment mold. Couric is hopefully the last gasp for this crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Schacht</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/10/strange-bedfellows/#comment-615282</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Schacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 23:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OK, maybe I missed something here. I don’t think the punditocracy, or hosts like Imus, are assessed on the basis of how right (or wrong) they are, unless they are so badly wrong that ratings suffer. What TV execs care about is &lt;b&gt;name recognition&lt;/b&gt;. Remember the old saw that bad publicity is better than no publicity? Controversy helps sell a show. Imus is a piker compared with Howard Stern and some other shock jocks. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My current puke award goes to CNN’s Glen Beck. I watched him early on for about 15 seconds and then decided that I was not going to waste even another second on that gas bag. But if you wanna get attention, be outrageous.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There is apparently, however, a tipping point, as Dan Rather discovered. Imus right now is very close to the tipping point, or maybe even just past it. The tipping point comes when you start to lose your audience, and ratings decline. So if you don’t like the Imus schtick, don’t watch, and if Imus’ name comes up, just say that you never watch him, because he’s such a stupid rube (or equivalent perjorative).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;P.S. As for me, the only time I ever watched Imus was recently when I watched a video re-run of segments of his show with Alison Krauss, who is one supurb singer, and her very talented band. Oh, and I have indeed learned something from this recent rage about his show. I think I’ve learned what “nappy-headed” means; its a phrase that I’d never heard before the Imus controversy. But I’m still not sure what “Ho’s” are. It must be something bad.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;P.P.S. I did not see the Women’s BB final that Imus referred to (I was at work here in Hawaii), but I have seen them play (on TV). They are an exceptionally talented and well-coached team that plays excellent defense. Everyone they played scored well under their season average points per game. They are an exceptional group of athletes, and some of them will wind up playing professional BB. Tennessee just happened to have an even better team that played with greater poise and determination.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, maybe I missed something here. I don’t think the punditocracy, or hosts like Imus, are assessed on the basis of how right (or wrong) they are, unless they are so badly wrong that ratings suffer. What TV execs care about is <b>name recognition</b>. Remember the old saw that bad publicity is better than no publicity? Controversy helps sell a show. Imus is a piker compared with Howard Stern and some other shock jocks. </p>
<p>My current puke award goes to CNN’s Glen Beck. I watched him early on for about 15 seconds and then decided that I was not going to waste even another second on that gas bag. But if you wanna get attention, be outrageous.</p>
<p>There is apparently, however, a tipping point, as Dan Rather discovered. Imus right now is very close to the tipping point, or maybe even just past it. The tipping point comes when you start to lose your audience, and ratings decline. So if you don’t like the Imus schtick, don’t watch, and if Imus’ name comes up, just say that you never watch him, because he’s such a stupid rube (or equivalent perjorative).</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
<p>P.S. As for me, the only time I ever watched Imus was recently when I watched a video re-run of segments of his show with Alison Krauss, who is one supurb singer, and her very talented band. Oh, and I have indeed learned something from this recent rage about his show. I think I’ve learned what “nappy-headed” means; its a phrase that I’d never heard before the Imus controversy. But I’m still not sure what “Ho’s” are. It must be something bad.  </p>
<p>P.P.S. I did not see the Women’s BB final that Imus referred to (I was at work here in Hawaii), but I have seen them play (on TV). They are an exceptionally talented and well-coached team that plays excellent defense. Everyone they played scored well under their season average points per game. They are an exceptional group of athletes, and some of them will wind up playing professional BB. Tennessee just happened to have an even better team that played with greater poise and determination.</p>
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		<title>By: maunga</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/10/strange-bedfellows/#comment-615244</link>
		<dc:creator>maunga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 23:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Am I worse because I think Imus should be permanently fired, yet I have ignored the much nastier endless exhortations to sexual and racist violence in rap and hip hip songs, because somewhere in my mind I may just think “Whaddya expect?”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I worse because I think Imus should be permanently fired, yet I have ignored the much nastier endless exhortations to sexual and racist violence in rap and hip hip songs, because somewhere in my mind I may just think “Whaddya expect?”</p>
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		<title>By: Moon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/10/strange-bedfellows/#comment-615160</link>
		<dc:creator>Moon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’d be surprised and don’t believe Imus is a “Jew hater.” His wife is Jewish.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’d be surprised and don’t believe Imus is a “Jew hater.” His wife is Jewish.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. K8</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/10/strange-bedfellows/#comment-615130</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. K8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-615090&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Delia @ 191&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Oh, Heavens to Betsy.  Fox claims the moral high ground in the Imus Affair.  &lt;b&gt;How very . . . uh, white . . . of them.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This must be the clinching evidence that our political culture is totally and completely batshit crazy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now there’s an expression from the forties and fifties that I’ve been resurrecting from time to time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You hear some Anglo say something moronicly patronizing about the racially “other”?  Reply:  “Mighty white of you!”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That wasn’t the original meaning, but then we can subvert the meaning of the cultural expressions of racists — and turn it into anti-racist snark, can’t we?  I mean, “it’s a free country.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-615090"><em>Delia @ 191</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Oh, Heavens to Betsy.  Fox claims the moral high ground in the Imus Affair.  <b>How very . . . uh, white . . . of them.</b></p>
<p>This must be the clinching evidence that our political culture is totally and completely batshit crazy.</p>
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<p>Now there’s an expression from the forties and fifties that I’ve been resurrecting from time to time.</p>
<p>You hear some Anglo say something moronicly patronizing about the racially “other”?  Reply:  “Mighty white of you!”</p>
<p>That wasn’t the original meaning, but then we can subvert the meaning of the cultural expressions of racists — and turn it into anti-racist snark, can’t we?  I mean, “it’s a free country.”</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. K8</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/10/strange-bedfellows/#comment-615126</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. K8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OT –&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yesterday when hearing on the radio about “tens of thousands” protesting the US occupation in Najaf, the first thing I thought was this –&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Knowing how they minimize the number of antiwar protestors on the streets HERE (usually by a factor of ten, at least), why wouldn’t they (officials and the media) minimize the number of peaceful Iraqis protesting THERE?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here’s a photo suggesting I was right about that:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/2277&quot;&gt;http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/2277&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;People as far as the eye can see.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT –</p>
<p>Yesterday when hearing on the radio about “tens of thousands” protesting the US occupation in Najaf, the first thing I thought was this –</p>
<p>Knowing how they minimize the number of antiwar protestors on the streets HERE (usually by a factor of ten, at least), why wouldn’t they (officials and the media) minimize the number of peaceful Iraqis protesting THERE?</p>
<p>Here’s a photo suggesting I was right about that:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/2277">http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/2277</a></p>
<p>People as far as the eye can see.</p>
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		<title>By: sofistic</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/10/strange-bedfellows/#comment-615110</link>
		<dc:creator>sofistic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-614917&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Morris Sheppard @&lt;br /&gt;
                105              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-614914&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;pol @ 101&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://wtop.com/&quot;&gt;http://wtop.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do you think Imus should be fired?&lt;br /&gt;
   Yes 40%; No 60%&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;What about the completely ignored option?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This reminds me of Daniel Quinn’s book, Ishmael, and of the Takers and the Leavers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt; “I’ll say it differently. The Leavers and the Takers are enacting two separate stories, based on entirely different and contradictory premises. This is something we’ll be looking at later, so you don’t have to understand it right this second.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ecofuture.org/pk/pkar9504.html&quot;&gt;EcoFuture Link&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-614917"><em>Morris Sheppard @<br />
                105              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-614914"><em>pol @ 101</em></a></p>
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<a href="http://wtop.com/">http://wtop.com/</a></p>
<p>Do you think Imus should be fired?<br />
   Yes 40%; No 60%</p>
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<p><b>What about the completely ignored option?</b></p>
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<p>This reminds me of Daniel Quinn’s book, Ishmael, and of the Takers and the Leavers.</p>
<blockquote><p> “I’ll say it differently. The Leavers and the Takers are enacting two separate stories, based on entirely different and contradictory premises. This is something we’ll be looking at later, so you don’t have to understand it right this second.”</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.ecofuture.org/pk/pkar9504.html">EcoFuture Link</a></p>
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		<title>By: Delia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Delia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, Heavens to Betsy.  Fox claims the moral high ground in the Imus Affair.  How very . . . uh, white . . . of them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This must be the clinching evidence that our political culture is totally and completely batshit crazy.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Heavens to Betsy.  Fox claims the moral high ground in the Imus Affair.  How very . . . uh, white . . . of them.</p>
<p>This must be the clinching evidence that our political culture is totally and completely batshit crazy.</p>
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