No Imus won't be fired folks. Kerry was his candidate. The decadent left has no morality, no ethics, no standards. They cover for each other and answer to no one. Morally bankrupt on every level.
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With Imus twisting in the wind, it is fascinating to watch his mostly liberal collaborators in the media try to avoid being affected by the stench. They all went on the show in the past knowing that that he specializes in making fun of people. But they excused that in order to reach his audience and, in many cases, sell their books.
Consider Howard Kurtz, the media reporter for the Washington Post who appears fairly often on the Imus show. Imus made his offensive remarks on April 4, a Wednesday. On April 6, Imus apologized on the air. Two days after that, on April 8, Kurtz's "Reliable Sources" media watchdog show aired on CNN. Did Kurtz say anything about Imus's remarks and the propriety of people like Kurtz appearing on such a show? I watched the show. Please check the transcript. I can't find anything. Can you? Instead, he devoted a segment of his show to Rosie O'Donnell's recent controversial remarks and female bloggers getting threats from readers. Doesn't this omission say something about Kurtz's objectivity as a media correspondent? Perhaps this will be a topic at the Washington Post annual meeting on May 10. AIM will be there, too.
To top it off, Kurtz's "Media Notes" column on Monday includes nothing about the Imus controversy and his own appearances on the show.
The City of New York, where Imus works and maintains a residence, issues "may issue" concealed carry licenses, allowing the police to determine who is allowed to have a concealed handgun. This is according the Sullivan Act, and in practice, it means that very, very few permits are issued.
Don Imus has a well-known history of alcohol and cocaine abuse in his past, and while he claims to have been clean for many years, his substance abuse history is certainly enough reason to deny him a permit even in "shall issue" areas. It is clearly his fame, and fame alone, that has afforded him the privilege to carry a gun in New York City.
It only seems fitting that his infamy caused him to be stripped of this privilege as well.
MSNBC's Dan Abrams:
People have every right to be angry, insulted and hurt by Imus's comments. And Imus himself has said they have every right to call for his resignation. Those opinions are heartfelt, and I can tell you they have been heard loud and clear by MSNBC and NBC News. The one set of instigators who should be ignored are our friends over at Fox News, who have made this part of an ongoing political campaign against MSNBC over everything and anything they can find. Now, I understand why they're doing it. It's a good strategy to attack a network that's suddenly offering up a challenge to them on a number of fronts. But one would hope another network would attack with clean hands. We all know that's not the case over at Fox, not even on this sort of issue.
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KO is on Dan Patrick talking about this.
trois?
damn you raven.
WOW! Hacktacular Howie is a Liberal? WTF? Not in THIS lifetime he ain’t.
This is good, Patrick is taking KO to task for not jumping on Imus like he would have if he were on Fox.
Neil @ 5
Not the first time.
hoo-ha!!!
MSNBC has some big decisions to make. To Fox or not to Fox. That is the question.
This is the GOP spin, you see. Because Imus didn’t attack Clinton 100% of the time, but only 85% of the time, he is a liberal.
EPU’d from Christy’s earlier thread but on topic here (slightly emended):
Re: TV journalism and infotainment:
I missed the Imus thread because I just got to the lake. My only comment about Imus: he’s very much part of the smug Beltway nexus of journalists and politicians.
Just look at his cast of regular guests, all usual suspects:
Journalists: Tim Russert; David Gregory; Howard Fineman; Chris Matthews; Andrea Mitchell; Jonathan Fineman (occasionally); Dan Rather (occasionally when he was at CBS but hasn’t been back since he left); Brian Williams (occasionally)
Politicians: Joe Lieberman; John McCain; Harold Ford Jr. (who has yet to come to his defense); Rick Santorum; John Kerry (occasionally: who perhaps hasn’t forgiven Imus his kiss of death in the 2004 elections); Senate-windbag Joe Biden
Abrams’ “clean hands” argument goes right out the window if they keep Imus. MSNBC will have no credibility in their (well-deserved) attacks on FOX if they keep Imus on the air. Best to clean house and stand on high ground when exposing Orally, Beck, and MM for their racism and hatespeech.
I’ll bet Imus’ wife is PISSED!!! Her book just came out and she was slated to appear on a number of shows this week and next, I’ll bet he’s sleeping alone on the couch!!!!
KO, “This is a broad ranging problem that has been going on for a long time and sometime they were going to have to put a bullet in his head. . .metaphorically”.
Biodun @ 12
Funny, it looks just like the list of the Sunday morning regulars.
Question for Conservatives:
If Imus is a liberal, how come he backs conservative non-Democrat Joe Lieberman?
OT - House probes military on Tillman, Lynch
snip
Lynch, a 21-year-old former Army supply clerk, became one of the most visible faces of the war when she was rescued from an Iraqi hospital after being captured by Iraqi forces on April 1, 2003. Eleven U.S. soldiers were killed where her convoy was attacked, and six, including Lynch, were captured.
Her videotaped rescue by special forces branded Lynch a hero at a time the U.S. war effort seemed bogged down. It also stirred complaints of government media manipulation.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....lman_lynch
Hello, Steno Sue
Santorum and Lieberman were his candidates too.
Al Roker says it’s time for the I-Man to go:
What I don’t understand is why people even tune into jerk-offs like Imus? Talk Radio is not part of my world. I just don’t get it. But then I never listened to the sermon when I had to go to church every Sunday as a kid either.
Man, if only the wingnutty bizarro-reality were true and liberals DID have say over what happens to Imus. He’d be out on his ass faster than you can drawl out “librul medja”.
OLBERMANN: A brief preface to our third story on the COUNTDOWN, the suspension of Don Imus by this network and by CBS radio for his remarks last week about the Rutgers University women‘s basketball team. I may be mistaken about the exact date, but I don‘t believe I have appeared on his radio or television show program 1998. This has been a conscious decision, stemming from what I thought were inappropriate things he has said about various people.
It has also been a conscious decision not to try to publicize this stance. And to borrow the phrase of an ex-colleague, it‘s not my day to run the network. First, NBC announced tonight that the simulcast of Imus in the Morning would not appear here on MSNBC for two weeks, starting next Monday. Then CBS radio announced it would suspend the show outright for the same time span. That time drag, by the way, will permit maximum exposure for his charity radio-thon later this week. Here are the details from our correspondent Rehema Ellis.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18038830/
Imus has a lengthy list of on-the-air trangressions of insensitive and bigoted jokes. His joke about Gwen Ifill, his conversation with Clarence Page and his insensitive and bigoted remarks about the Rutgers basketball team come to mind.
If you agree he has been innapropriate in his humor, that the joke is both bigoted and at the expense of the subjects, then what is the just outcome of this controversy?
Should public media people lose their jobs for being bigoted and insensitive? What if you believe them to be sincere in their apology? I also recognize the message sent when bigots, repeat offenders, face no consequences. What do you think?
I think Gewn Ifill has Imus’ number.
In this instance he picked on kids.
Anyone can make errors of judgement and taste
(even here at FDL from time to time ;)
But picking on a bunch of teenagers, because you can, is just plain bullying.
And that is a character flaw, not a mistake of judgement or taste.
Steerike! He’s out.
I’m new to this Imus person — never have listened or paid any attention, but this Q&A from Eugene Robinson caught my attention.
How can this guy still be on the air and attract the “talent” he does?
ipus opposes the war(sic) but supports John McCain for president. He supported Kerry but spent the entire time trashing him and slandering his wife. And during the campaign was cruel to Elizabeth Edwards –endless fatlady jokes.
Come on folks this is a smoke screen by the MSM (only not a dead BLONDE this time) Stick with the real story
Bush, rove, gonozo and the rest are the real Story. Watch the hearing on c-span3 April 17 Start you video recorder @ 10 am
Did Imus ever say anything about Jeb Bush’s marriage?
katherine graham cracker @ 27
Same with Contessa Brewer…
Contessa Brewer is a news anchor for MSNBC. She joined MSNBC in September of 2003 after working for WTMJ-TV in Milwaukee, Wisconsin as a weekend anchor and general assignment reporter. She has also worked for KMIR in Palm Springs, California (which, like, WTMJ is owned by Journal Communications), and KRNV in Reno, Nevada.
Brewer, in the spring of 2005, served briefly as a news reader on the popular “Imus in the Morning” radio show that is broadcast out of Secaucus, New Jersey, syndicated nationally, and broadcast on MSNBC; but her tenure was brief, and she became embroiled in a public feud with Don Imus after the New York Post published a gossip item in which she was overheard disparaging the radio personality. Among several insults, Imus had called Brewer “fat” on his radio show, despite the fact that she is of average weight and height.
She graduated Magna Cum Laude from S.I. Newhouse School of Public Communications at Syracuse University.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contessa_Brewer
OT but important from previous thread by Neil @173
http://www.gregpalast.com/bush.....#more-1586
Imus seems to be what I call a “redneck hippie”. Looks like a hippie, but thinks like a redneck. He is not a liberal, and he’s no hippie, and he’s no cowboy.
Project much, do we?
And Kurtz is a “liberal?” Could have fooled me.
He called a girls sports team..dirty whores. period.
We know he is a pickled reformed drunk who has a history of saying these things. What does it take to get fired?
Why does GE and NBC hate american womens sports teams?
big bob @ 28
We have time for both conversations. I agree that the alter is more consequential.
The clear-eyed dignity & composure of the Rutgers team members @ their presser today gave the lie to Imus’ crude put downs. Those women rocked…
Kurz is a liberal?? I always thought he was a media whore.
Imus is a liberal? I always thought he was a clown.
itwasntme @ 31
Is Palast a reliable source?
If I had a daughter looking to play college basketball, I’d be very happy to have C. Vivian Stringer be her coach.
Taking time out from affairs of the state, The Dunce also weighs in:
I still have not had my comment to CNN posted on their blog or read. For those of you who didn’t see it in the earlier thread:
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Don Imus made vile racist and sexist comments, and deserves to be reprimanded and suspended. However, the same can be said for CNNs Glenn Beck. Beck has made many racially and sexually offensive comments that are on par with those of Imus.
Glenn Beck has made comments like this:
“What happened to the Duke lacrosse team was practically a lynching without the rope. And for the first time in my life, Mr. Oreo Cookie without the chocolate on the outside can understand why people celebrated when O.J. Simpson was acquitted.”
Hillary Clinton “is a stereotypical bitch”.
And to Congressman Keith Ellison, a Muslim: “Sir, prove to me that you are not working with our enemies.’”
So, while CNN enjoys pointing a scathing finger at MSNBC, they should consider applying the same scrutiny to their own employees. CNN has trumpeted the Imus controversy into a huge two-day story while continuing to tacitly endorse such behavior by Glenn Beck. I would have much more respect for CNN if they operated by the same ethical standards they demand of their competition.
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I personally think all of these media pigs like Imus, Beck, Coulter, Malkin, and others of their ilk should be off the air. However, they bring in ratings, and corporate media won’t kick them out.
The notion that Imus is a liberal, being protected by liberals, is about the most preposterous thing I’ve heard this week. This is a big corporate media brouhaha, with Fox and CNN piling on MSNBC (whose ratings have been going up), while not putting near the same scrutiny on their show hosts and guests. Shame on them.
minor correction to Abrams’ statement:
“But one would hope another network would attack with clean hands. We all know that’s not the case over at Fox,
not evenespecially on this sort of issue.“browny @ 37
Being a clown in a noble and ancient profession. What do you have against clowns?
TeddySanFran @ 26
Teddy:
I think this interview is trying to play down their complicity in Imus’ behavior.
I think the operative phrase now is and should be: “Enough is Enough”.
Taking down Imus should be a signal to the broadcast media and politicians who think they have a comfortable niche to walk into with racially, ethnically and gender-biased remarks. These remarks do far-reaching damage.
That signal is: NO. MORE. QUARTER.
Eureka Springs @ 38
Read it. You probably heard it before and will remember it. In the light of the US Attorney firings, it takes on a whole new perspective.
Ha ha, Sheri Annis’s husband Howie the Putz a liberal?
That would be Sheri Annis, Republican media strategist who runs a company called “Fourth Estate Strategies” selling her right wing media expertise.
That Cliff Kincaid, what a kidder.
If Imus’s hatespeech has succeeded in uniting blogtopia and the bigotsphere, will Privileged Media continue to support him? Is this a real Insider vs. Outsider struggle?
Angry Black Bitch, OTOH, noted another obvious issue yesterday:
Click through for a photo, as well as an ABB smackdown of NBC and their
journalistic integritylove of money.I don’t understand how we can get so worked up over Imus, when there’re still pustules like Glenn Beck polluting our air. I think this reeks of “Look! Something shiny!”
The WFAN afternoon drive show Mike and the Mad Dog is talking about this. Running out the they make funny of everyone line.
They’re going to have a real problem with call-ins, though. The audience Imus directs his racist content to will be calling in making racist comments.
Chris Russo has opened up a fissure by bringing up Sharpton’s role in this. Sharpton has screwed up in the past, but his act has been substantially cleaned up.
Eureka Springs @ 38
Yes! If you haven’t read his book about the 2000 election in Florida, you should run and get it at the first opportunity!
In spite of his kids cancer ranch, Imus lacks honor and character as do the vast majority of MSM hacks. It’s an epidemic without a known cure.
Imus is only part of the problem… all of those political and media “elites” who are defending him, even now… what are they thinking? And what should their consequences be? (Howard Fineman, Tom Oliphant, Jeff Greenfield, among others)
They should ALL be held to account. Just silencing Imus (if that even becomes permanent) does not really change anything.
Digby has a great post on this story, and brings in the money angle… i.e., how the elites manage to hawk their books so successfully on his show.
Unfortunately, I’m seeing too many (progressive?) comments about free speech re: this story, and that is not what it is about. There is no government quashing of speech involved here.
Badwater @ 43
In a similar vein, why insult whores, who also have an old (some say the oldest) time honored profession, and perform a useful public function? What useful function does Kurtz perform again?
conniptionfit @ 49
Hey, one whacko at a time..) [thanks for the palast reply]
MoShep @ 54
Do you REALLY wanna go there?!?
conniptionfit @ 49
they are all creepy and jsut cause we can’t
get Beck at the sametime doesn’t mean Ipus gets a free ride. For whatever reasons this particular hs brought attention to Ipus and his horrible behavior and it is rightly being pointed out that this is not his 20th offense.
oops…more like his one millionth offense
Harry Reid’s Office’s statement:
why insult whores, who also have an old (some say the oldest) time honored profession, and perform a useful public function? What useful function does Kurtz perform again?
I think the professionals prefer the term sex workers
I am very upset by this controversy, because I was set to launch next week a brand new patented nylon product designed to prevent mid-day bedhead called Nappy Head Hose. Damn you, Don Imus.
Seriously, though…who is listening to this man? I do not understand, but think there is a link, between journalists’ worshipping at the MSNBC Imus altar and their refusal to challenge anyone on the facts. There’s a Grand Unified Theory of Lazy, Focus-Group Fearing, Spotlight-and-Cocktail Seeking Journalism out there, but I can’t formulate it.
because it’s all strange fruit from the same poplar tree
Wait, he’s still on the air this week? Seriously?
It’s on at 3am pt, so I never see it.
I’m sick of hearing about this. It is not news. It isn’t. Shock jocks are there to shock. This is ultimately shocking. STFU and go to bed for Christ’s sake.
Imus is such a “liberal” that conservative Howard Fineman of Newsweek defends him, as does conservative Michael Smerconish.
katherine graham cracker @ 27
its called having it both ways. imus is a schmuck.
hola all, from an internet shop in barcelona. wow. what a city …..
Is everyone here calling for Imus termination?
I, like Tom Oliphant, think there is more to be gained by taking him seriously in his regret and holding him to the higher standard he professes to have set for himself.
Clarence Page wants nothing to do with Imus. Clarence called Imus on his bigoted language and solicited Imus’ pledge to cease and desist. When over time Imus did not, Page bid him farewell. Page has not been invited nor would he accept a guest spot on Imus’ show. Nonetheless, Page does not advocate for his termination.
I abhor Bill Donahue’s tactics (President and CEO Catholic League for the defense of Catholic’s Civil and Religious rights) and methods. He stakes out the position of outrage, he demands cease and desist, he demands people lose their jobs, and he organizes efforts to inflict financial hardship.
When I think of demanding Imus’ job, I think I’m treading close to the tatics employed by crazed and unreasonable zealots like Donahue.I am opposed to Imus’ insensitive and bigoted language but I am also opposed to living in a culture where people’s jobs are at risk when they cross the line of civility and propriety. At he same time, Imus’ language sets a tone that should not be considered acceptable.
The pot calling the kettle black (no pun intended). Glenn Beck’s exchange with Anderson Cooper:
Beck is right about one thing: making money for the corporation. The market (pace the advertisers and the ratings) will decide Imus’s fate when he gets back from suspension.
Imus slummer, Jack, and I’m OK.
jayackroyd @ 59
Update: This is also up on Pelosi’s website, so this is a joint leadership statement.
Late to the party for Christy’s “Spine” thread:
Recovering Reporter’s suggestion is a leaf out of the Navy Submarine Service’s play book: double-crew the boat. Blue crew goes out to the sea buoy, dives, does their 60 day cruise underwater, and comes back for two months of training, R&R, more training, etc. while Gold crew is out. Great idea for the intra-beltway press.
jayackroyd @ 59
Thanks. I’ve been following the battle of the press conferences between McConnell and Reid on CSPAN 1.
I must say, Jack Reed (D-RI) is one credible, solemn and well spoken person.
TheOtherWA @ 63
He’s still on this week because of a scheduled fundraiser he’s doing for a charity. He said this morning he’s going to raise a million dollars. Yes, it’s all about corporations–and the market.
When I first heard about this, I wasn’t paying attention and only heard Imus say “nappy-headed.” I didn’t hear the “ho” part. I don’t watch the guy b/c he’s always been a braying jackass. Once I heard “ho” I knew he should be shitcanned.
What really blew my mind, though, was the other moron who used the word “jigaboo.” What the fuck? Who uses that anymore? I mean, I thought “jigaboo” went out with “spearchucker.”
I’m from the south. I’ve heard this shit all my life, most recently from my soon-to-be ex-in-laws. If that language rolled off their tongues so easily on the air, there’s no doubt what is said when the mics are off.
I don’t give a fuck how long that mummy has been propped up in front of a mic. Fire his ass.
We don’t need another Jeremy Bentham, for god’s sake.
kdh22 @ 52
he uses the kids to insulate himself from criticism of his racist and sexist act. deviousness and bad faith. period
oh Tommy Yum, I had the exact same response to the “ji**boo” quote and am now lmao
said to mr. cbl on Sunday -
“these goons would’ve called Paul Robeson spearchucker !”
At some time we as a society need to say that our public airwaves may not be used to promote hatred and division within our society. Hate Radio has made multi-millionaires out of a bunch of white men but it is a cancer destroying our culture. I hope Imus is fired. It would send a timely message to the Hate Mongers who polute our airwaves.
barcelona. wow. what a city …..
hmmmmmmmham
And Old Lord McCain will appear this week on his show — another sign he’s losing it. I find it interesting that Eugene Robinson sees daylight between Imus’s journalist guests and their bosses:
More from Waxman:
fahrender @ 75
As has Bill Bennett. When his thought experiment blew up in his face (there would be less crime if every black woman aborted her fetus) he called on everyone to remember the work he’d done as edumication secretary and the social work he and his wife did in the gh-etto. Bill Kristol was his character witness.
I’ve been engaged in this Imus debate since before the Rutgers incident. Today and yesterday I was particularly annoyed by some of the things katherine graham cracker had to say on the topic. After listening to, gasp, sports radio and Joe Morgan, Eddie Johnson, Dan Patrick and KO I think I finally have the “context” down right. I have been able to wince and bear the nastiness of the show because he did interesting interviews and seemed to pull for veterans and kids with cancer as well as attacking the Bushites. KO really helped me understand the depth of the problems with the entire Imus show so I think it is appropriate for me to say I have been wrong. . .especially to KGCracker. peace
fahrender @ 66
Barcelona? you fortunate person! However, you must understand that if you do not spend at least one full day, preferably two, at the Sagrada Famiglia, and another at Guell Park, you are doomed to eternal something-or-other for an unforgivable affront to the genius of Catalania, as well as a missed opportunity for an incredible aesthetic experience.
If the airwaves belong to the people, where’s my check and/or tax deduction?
Neil @
67
Were I working in Corporate at CBS or NBC (or for whomever is Imus’s actual employer) and openly — albeit jokingly — called a black female co-worker a “nappy-headed ho” I’d be summarily fired on inciting “hostile workplace” grounds. Is inciting a larger “hostile society” any less serious?
Were I his boss, it’d be one strike, you’re out (and, for the record, his inflammatory racial rap sheet extends way beyond one strike).
.
Morris Sheppard @ 83
Gaudi duty.
Ed Deevy @ 77
A strategic and deserved prosecution to set an example?
Where are the demands for McGuirk to apologize? He was the first one to call the women “hos.”
Fire them all.
I was particularly annoyed by some of the things katherine graham cracker had to say on the topic
thanks for a great compliment!
punaise @ 85
Howdy punaise! In this case duty is a pleasure with no strings.
And why is the Imus thing news?
Well, race is an explosive issue in America–the third rail in everything. The US will probably never heal from the history of slavery and lynching. And when you mix race with gender? Wham!
AZ Matt 80,
Can you imagine what will happen if there are RNC related e-mails related to either of those events to bolster support for the Repubs and the war….I’ll bet Waxman knows or at least suspects something.
I think the denizens of TradMed who defend Imus are terrified of him. They back him up — calling him a good man who said a bad thing — because they are afraid he’ll stay on the air and demonize them. Also, he sells their books for them, apparently something they are unable to do without his assist.
They must be aware of his long and infamous history in this particular arena of race and sexism.
hey, Morris Sheppard!
Tommy Yum makes a great point.. Even Little Rock, AR closed down the last resturant named “Sambos” in the ’70’s…what the he*l yanks?! Can the guy!
katherine graham cracker @ 88
best way I could think of to grovel
jayackroyd @ 59
This doesn’t sound quite like blinking to me. Does this mean Levin was a bit off the reservation Sunday with his comments that basically said “if Bush vetoes, we’ll cave?” I sure hope so, because man, that was depressing.
Totally ot - Attention TRex - please see p. 93 of the 4/16 New Yorker.
(”You keep him busy while I go for help.”)
Neil @ 81
Bill Kristol was his character witness.
Well, if Kristol was his witness then it’s all good….I think I’m gonna puke!
Fahrender @ 75
Yeah, tell-tale sign of an addict.
I’m convinced this schmuck harbors much self-hatred and guilt and then tries to pass it off as crude humor. He needs help but I doubt he will ever seek it. His offspring, consequently, will bear the sins of the father.
Heard that Clusterfuck asked to meet with dem leaders to discuss how they could do exactly what he wants on the Iraq spending stuff.. Yer kiddin- right Clusterfuck? Whadda shithead!!
Neil @ 67
We’re not talking about civility. We’re talking about CBS and MSNBC entertainment content. this content runs next to Good Morning America and CNN’s American Morning. If this were an isolated incident, then I think Imus’s bosses would be correct in treating it as an error in judgment on a show that is very close the edge on taboo topics.
But at this point, it is very clear that racist and misogynist content* is an integral part of the show. As long as McGuirk is part of the program, that will continue. That’s his role, and he plays it with relish.
CBS and MSNBC management is endorsing and promoting this content. That’s the issue.
And it’s also part of the media world that we’re constantly talking about, an insular collection of opinion shapers.
*Nobody has bothered to mention that the female traffic reporter was required to