
(Paul J. Richards/AFP/Getty Images)
I am titillated and tantalized by the RNC mailserver (or "Mehlserver", or "Melserver", depending on your timeframe). It sits, quietly and inscrutably humming, its secrets known only to a chosen few. What mysteries are concealed there? Is there enough dirty electronic laundry in its e-hamper to bring down a President, or at least an Attorney General and Deputy Chief Of Staff? I must know! Unfortunately, I don't have subpoena power. But Henry Waxman does, and he shares my fascination with The Unknown.
The All-Seeing Eye Of Froomkin, who is a national treasure by the way, has a very thought-provoking roundup in today's column, which has, um, provoked some thoughts (emphasis added):
As John D. McKinnon writes in today's Wall Street Journal (subscription required): "The widespread use of private email accounts by some top White House officials is sparking a congressional probe into the practice and whether it violates a post-Nixon law requiring that White House deliberations be documented.
"A top Democratic lawmaker says outside email accounts were used in an attempt to avoid scrutiny; the White House says their purpose was to avoid using government resources for political activities, although they were used to discuss the firing of U.S. attorneys."
Most of the e-mail accounts at issue are on Republican National Committee servers. For instance: "Susan Ralston, until recently presidential adviser Karl Rove's assistant at the White House, appears to have used at least four outside email accounts: a 'gwb' domain account, a 'georgewbush.com' account, and an 'rnchq.org' account — all run by the RNC — plus an AOL account. She once emailed two associates of lobbyist Jack Abramoff, 'I now have an RNC blackberry which you can use to e-mail me at any time. No security issues like my WH email.' . . .
Wow. So the White House admits that the RNC e-mail accounts were used to talk about the US Attorneys. Maybe laying groundwork for an executive privilege claim? IANAL, but it seems to me it would pretty tough to argue that RNC e-mails are covered by executive privilege since, the last I checked, the RNC was not formally part of the executive branch. They would either have to argue that the Mehlmail should be protected because everything the White House does is political (it's not a bug, it's a feature!), or that cheating in defense of executive privilege is no vice. It also begs the question, just how confident are they in their overall claim of executive privilege if they're afraid to conduct Executive White House Business over Executive White House E-Mail?
Also, wasn't Abramoff supposed to be cooperating? Shouldn't he have a lot of those e-mails at his end? If he was so hungry for revenge against the people who turned their back on him, why didn't he nudge anyone to take a look at the RNC, since he obviously knew that was where all the dirt was? Is he really cooperating, or is that just a smokescreen to get him a lighter sentence in exchange for his silence on the really important stuff? Maybe I'm cynical, but it's been over a year and I'm still waiting for all those High-Profile Indictments (why, it's almost like Alice Fisher has no interest in prosecuting anyone!). But I digress.
FroomKinnon continues:
Will these e-mails ever see the light of day? McKinnon writes: "The White House and RNC said the RNC is preserving the emails generated by White House officials on the RNC's computers, and that they are exempt from the RNC's normal policy of erasing emails after 30 days."
This is brilliant news if true, and if both the White House and the RNC say it, it must be so. It also leaves no wiggle room: the purge exemption doesn't just apply to Official White House Business, but to any e-mails from White House officials, regardless of what they're up to. What isn't so clear is the timeframe: the use of present tense implies that perhaps they've only just started to exempt WH e-mails from deletion, which wouldn't buy us anything at all.
Christy has been emphatic about the importance of preserving those e-mails, and has hinted at severe criminal consequences if they should be deleted (if Christy or someone can point me to that post so I could link it, I would be very grateful), but what if the purge exemption was not always in place, and the incriminating e-mails were automatically purged as a result of negligence, rather than deleted deliberately as part of a coverup? (My suspicion is that the 30-day purge policy was purposely designed as a sort of auto-coverup mechanism, so no-one is ever personally responsible for deleting anything.) It would be interesting to know when that purge policy was instituted.
So what are the criminal penalties for deleting evidence, or allowing evidence to be deleted automatically? And which is worse optics, a tacit admission of unspecified wrongdoing a la Nixon's missing 18 minutes, or the revelation of specific offenses? I guess it depends on the offenses, really. My prediction: RNC will say, "Oops, so sorry, we only started preserving WH e-mails after the investigation started. Everything from last year is gone, we had no idea anyone would need it. Our bad." I'm not sure what happens after that, other than a lot of smirking by Karl.
UPDATE: The purge exemption for WH e-mails has been in place since 2004. Thanks, cbl!



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Coulter was on Fox today and called Imus a liberal, several times. And Fox had on the bottom of the screen her exact quote about Imus being a liberal. They sure can lie over there.
Accountability!
Rove must absolutely be dealt with. This is imperative. There is no wiggle room on seeing that Mr. Rove has his day in court. It’s felt Rove is more important than even Cheney in the scheme of things
Oklahoma kiddo @ 2
Back when Fitz passed on indicting Rove, and people were speculating that he might go after Cheney, I was underwhelmed, because I believe Rove is still an asset, and Cheney is a liability. Fitz would have been doing the Republicans a favor if he’d indicted Cheney and let Bush groom a successor.
Then again, being Dubya’s vice president maybe isn’t such a great springboard to electoral success nowadays…
What about the English boy the NSA is determined to extradite to the US for hacking into their deepest secrets.
Perhaps Sen Leahy and J Conyers could hire him to hack into the RNC and gwb43 servers???
Isn’t Abramoff up for sentence reduction as of today?
sMellmail.
Rove doin the Frog Walk!
maunga @ 4
No, the Republicans will interrogate the servers themselves, and then admit that the waterboarding was “a terrible mistake”.
Oklahoma kiddo @
3
no wiggly for piggly.
I think we’ve reached the Nixon Butterfield tipping point moment. I think they’ve screwed themselves. No court is going to buy that a political party has executive privilege. The dirty, dirty secrets on the RNC emails are going to come out.
EPU’ing myself from previous post..
LS says:
April 10th, 2007 at 5:01 pm
I’m sorry OT but looky here:
http://www.technomania.com/RelatedCompanies.asp
from same server as GWB43.com. Check out the site.
April 10th, 2007 at 5:04 pm, LS says:
Re: LS 55,
“The firm has handled complex Internet communications projects for The White House,”
and, GSA is a client too.
cleter @ 10
Assuming that the e-mails are still there. I think they’d rather take the criminal penalties for “inadvertently” deleting the evidence than the criminal *and* electoral penalties for not deleting it.
The MSM should be showing Richard Nixon’s picture, quoting him saying “Stonewall…Save the plan,” as the lead-in to the AG story every day.
Every day, every network (well, probably not Fox).
The point would be driven home.
Didn’t Fitzgerald subpoena the whole hardrive? It would be possible, I believe, if you had an expert, to tell if there was indeed a purge program in place that had been in place as long as they are saying or to tell if there had been some selective deleting going on.
I think it’s time they took their “privileges” and shoved them up their asses.
These jackasses are supposed to be working for the people, not hijacking the government for themselves. If they have forgotten that or choose to ignore it, it’s time to show them some jail time.
Impeach them all NOW and sort the criminals out later.
And:
http://72.14.209.104/search?q=…..onnell.doc Mike Connell&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us&client=firefox-a
A couple of point, if I may:
At least some commercial ISPs delete RECEIVED e-mails after 30 days but leave SENT e-mails to be deleted by users.
The Conyers subpoena covered EVERYTHING, both INTER office and INTRA office concerning the firings, and all electronics including from Palms, Blackberrys etc. I think Conyers has managed to box things such that the Rove and Miers participation has to be included.
Of course, IANAL, and may well be an idiot. :})
Eli
I don’t think they are that clever. How tech savvy is a fresh young dumbass from Regent University likely to be? These fools think delete means gone forever.
dakine01 @ 17
I don’t dispute the completeness of the subpoena – I’m just concerned that the RNC will find a way to delete the e-mails, or that they already have. They practically *have* to.
I want to meet Froomkin at YearlyKos!
How come Rove still has a security clearance?
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com…..email.html
More; lINKS FOR YOU
http://www.robtex.com/dns/gwb43.com.html
cleter @ 18
They just need *one* tech-savvy person. Although I don’t guess Regents would produce a lot of those.
Cassie @ 22
How come he still has a freakin’job?
On our dime, no less?
Well, maybe at least hear him speak.
Cassie @ 21
That’s easy. Because Bush wants him to, and he can do whatever he wants.
If they didn’t do anything wrong then they didn’t need to worry about getting caught.
Terry Olson @ 25
Oh, I want to meet him. Not sure I should mention my nickname for him, though.
I’ve already met Krugman…
Eli @ 24
Some people are tech savvy before college.
Cassie @ 27
And they shouldn’t mind anyone looking through all their stuff.
OT, but has anyone seen Ruben Navarrette’s
weekend column titled “Railroading of Alberto
Gonzalez”? It’s a hoot. Sorry, no link.
Eli @ 31
Just like we’re not supposed to mind them looking at our mail!
Eli @ 20 says
There are probably all sorts of forensic technologists who would absolutely LUV to get hold of some supposedly clean hard drives and servers and see what is hidden in the bits of 0s and 1s.
Here is a repost of Epluribus that someone requested from the last thread
http://scoop.epluribusmedia.or…..22612/9031
Cassie @ 29
Also, we’re talking RNC, not WH. Are they similarly full of fundie zombies?
LS @
12
So this means we get to see Ms. Lurita testify again? Oh goody!
maunga @
5
Community Sevice!
How about “malserver”?
*ilbo @ 38
They could hire two of the boys that I blog with.
And, here’s their faith and values…ain’t it sweet?
http://www.technomania.com/FaithValues.asp
lexie @ 39
Mal de Mer server?
I now have an RNC blackberry which you can use to e-mail me at any time. No security issues like my WH email.
That is the statement of a profoundly stupid, complacent jackass who has left big gooey sticky fingerprints all over the place. My guess is that the clever tech gurus are unable to compensate for the profound incompetence of everybody else…in much the same way that their gaming of the e-voting system was unable to compensate for the sheer scope of electoral hatred unleashed in November.
These guys OWN the fuckin government- they OWN the fuckin Justice dept.
“No one gets prosecuted unless I SAY they gets prosecuted”
GWClusterfuck
cleter @ 42
I wonder which account she sent that e-mail from…
1,482 DAYZ AND HE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen donna and the Firepup Patriots:
“Impeach them all NOW and sort the criminals out later.”
No dear, impeach the President and Vice President and file charges against ALL the other goblins crawlin around the Executive Office Building…the investigations and trials will take years to sort out but it will all be public and the result will be a “lost generation” of fascist cadre which won’t be reincarnated in another political cycle.
The criminal investigations, special prosecutors and referrals to state investigators must start right now…the criminality and war in Iraq must be the focus of this election cycle. No quarter, our elected Democratic leadership must know that this is a fight to the death for our democracy. The fascists will not go quietly and won’t accept pleas bargains…they’re goin’ out with all guns blazin’ hidin’ behind our Constitution and most sacred principles.
So…
KEEP THE FAITH, PASS THE AMMUNITION AND TAKE NO FUCKIN’ PRISONERS!!
dakine01 @ 42
More like mal de merde….
Cassie @ 28
Amen!!!
That’s why this whole business of “practice sessions” for Gonzo, who can’t seem to “get the timeline straight,” among other elements of his testimony-to-come, is so abominable!
Why does anyone need so much practice if all they have to do is tell the truth?
And if the problem is truly his “memory” (fat chance!) then he should be impeached or otherwise forced to resign.
Such an impaired person heading the Justice Dept. might just “forget” important details like memos about Al Qaeda Determined to Strike the United States. Seems to me he might just “forget” what he’s supposed to do every day.
I have been hearing soldiers are on their third deployment for over a year now. How long is a deployment and are they not on forth or fith deployments by now?
cleter @ 43
The techees can’t help but BRAG about their high-powered clients, and RedRover can’t help but think he’s smarter than the average bear…but they are more like the Karlstone Kops…
Mrs. K8 @ 47
I wouldn’t worry about that. I’m sure Karl reminds him.
Eureka Springs @ 49
An army deployment is about a year. A national guard deployment is 8-10 months. I don’t know about marines.
LS@12,
Do you know what that means?
It’s routine to drill with someone who is going to testify—but it sounds as if Gonzo is goin a little overboard.
lolo @ 23
THX. Some very interesting domains there:
Hi, finally at last. I was held hostage all day by loving friends that just don’t understand that all I want to do is throw them out and jump in the lake to dish all the dirt that has happened today. I kept up with all the late and breaking but sheesh it’s not the same. Eli, great post. Just happens to be my favorite subject.
lolo
Does it bother anyone that such high ranking people with access to such delicate information are casually tossing data about over cellular networks that can be intercepted and monitored by anyone with the wherewithal to go to radio shack?
Terry Olson @ 53
Uh, huh, uh, huh…go Waxman, go Waxman, go FDL. That is what I think it means..or…I could be extremely worried about a visit by black helicopters or something of that ilk…
lolo @ 56
That is how i felt at school today since i didn’t get in till 10 minutes before bedtime yesterday and I don’t know the weekend people!
Thomas @ 57
Well then, please, somebody go to Radio Shack!!!
(To our friendly government monitors — this is a JOKE.)
Montag @ 47 says
I bow to a master. LOL
Lou Costello @ 54
Drat, no militaryescortm4m.com…
I’ve always heard that nothing is really ever deleted in the cyberworld. It’s always being used as a plot point on some police drama or other. Aren’t there forensic pros who specialize in this kind of recovery or have I indeed been watching too much TV?
Thomas @ 57
Yeah, that IS a problem. Do they all do that? Did people do that in the Clinton years too?
lolo @ 55
Thanks, lolo, mine too. I really do think there is (or was) some damning stuff on those servers.
Menwithreflectivesunglasses.com.
-GSDrwcole @
54
Does he realize that it appears rather odd to people outside of the bletway mindmeld machine to be stopping your life to cram to refresh your memory about a simple matter of mishandled spin?
Emptywheel has a great post on Paulose getting her position – Next Hurrah
Welcome, Cassie: By the way, after you signed off last night, Patrick (who is TRex’s fraternal unit, if I’m correct) suggested a screen name for you (variation of your Snarkette) that I really liked. Not sure if you saw it.
Snarkotic. Whaddaya think? Memorable, I say. Excellent, Patrick.
We got the drip, drip, drip, of discovery goin on- the discovery that the president is a psychopath without talent, skill, knowledge, or ability.
Les Mal fils de la Blanc Maison
Lou @55
You’re welcome. That list of websites is what makes this all so icky.
CD @ 68
Thanks but nothing with drugs
Did Froomkin just say that the RNC didn’t follow the 30-day-erase policy when it came to White House employees?
GSD @ 66
Except what % of the people are paying any attention to him cramming?
Veritas78 @ 72
Yes, but it’s unclear how long that policy has been in place.
I don’t think you’re digressing at all about Abramoff. He’s got a piece of every part of this. Remember, follow the money. Abramoff had the money. Every investigation that should be going on because of his cooperation – where are the prosecutions? Why is his sentence getting cut? Didn’t he have something to do with a murder? This guy named names of high level Republicans who he bribed, and nothing has been done. And there is a direct connection between the fired attorneys and Abramoff. Abramoff-Rove-Bush-Gonzo.
What about the NSC they are suppose to be monitering EVERYTHING in their hunt for terroists. Cheney we already know is paranoid I’m thinking that Cheney and Rove have probably been monitering WH e-mails for a while now just to make sure everyone is a loyal bushie. They probably sent the e-mails to whomever is in charge of breaking hidden codes because their paranoia makes them think that way. We need to subpenoa a few code breakers!
Cassie,
I guess Snarkadelic is out of the question.
-GSD
Imus and the Rutgers BBall team gettin together for a little shoot around….Psst- Don- wear a CUP!
nothing with drugs
***
Excellent point, Cassie. Sorry I didn’t think about that at first. You’re wiser than your years. My years, too.{G}
GSD @ 77
And Snarcoleptic is perhaps not very imposing…
How about Mal de Blank Mange?
sunshine @
1
Imus probably fancies himself a liberal – cause he invites sick kids to his western ranch – but you can bet he takes ample tax breaks for his charity just like a good wingnut in cowboy drag.
We know that Susan Ralston was using an AOL account.
Isn’t it true that the DOJ has demanded that ISP’s like AOL preserve emails for at least two years?
GSD @ 78
I love it… Blame it on Clinton (George Clinton)
Mrs. K8 @ 83
I wonder what determined whether she used AOL or an RNC e-mail. She told the Abramoff guys to e-mail her at her RNCrackberry, after all.
lolo @ 71
But that’s the point. Follow the slime trail. What I find interesting is the list of 813 domains sharing nameservers with gwb43.com:
http://www.robtex.com/dns/gwb43.com.html
Eureka Springs @ 84
We want the snark
Give up the snark
We need the snark
Gotta have that snark
LS @ 70
I thought Gannon/Guckert and Matt Sanchez were the White House male servers.
Snarkastic!!!
Actually, Froomkin was quoting McKinnon from the Wall Street Journal. So the RNC hasn’t erased its emails, per the WSJ. Hmm…
Cheney for President in 2008! Come on Karl, don’t be a wimp! Go for it!
Cheney/Rice 2008!
Remember you read it here first.
rwcole @ 79
heh…
Veritas78 @ 90
The RNC is not *currently* deleting its WH e-mails.
I’m going to go out on a limb here and guess that the nickname “Mehlserver” has long since been taken.
oopsie — somehow my bold tag closed, but reopened again. These buttons on the comment form can be treacherous.
I put a “close bold” code at the top of this msg.
Eli @ 65
Eli the beauty of this is that the NSA has to have this stuff. Everything is copied over and over by the servers. They will have forensics on this like white on rice. Did you read the subpoena? I had it for breakfast, (with breakfast HA!) Because of the patriot act and the domestic spying rules they will be brought down by their own chicanery.
CD @ 80
My rules on the internet include that I can’t do anything that glorifies drugs. My mom is an addict and me and my brother can get addicted too easy.
Eli @ 81
How about the Great White Snark?
That would be snark with some tooth to it, yes?
Frank Probst @ 94
Only if you’re German.
(That first hit is me, taking it for a testdrive…)
Mrs. K8 @ 90
Better than SNARKASSIE???
montag @ 98
How do we know she’s white?
Deb Tinsley @ 63
Data retrieval experts would likely be able to retrieve bits and pieces of “deleted” emails from the hard drives they were stored on, unless the drives have been physically removed and destroyed, or very secure deletion software was used to delete the emails. And we don’t know what kinds of backups they have. Those might contain the full copies of all emails.
Terry Olson @
21
He was very cool and approachable last year. I had a fifteen-minute chat with him. Jane introduced us. I hope YK2.0 has the same level of interaction between the stars and us folks.
Buying a drink for MoDo was as close as I got to real starchatting. Once she realized I don’t play for her team, she moved along to chat with the next gentleman in the drinks line.
lolo @ 96
They might, but I suspect they will discover a sudden and very selective respect for privacy, or some other excuse why this information cannot be released.
AZ Matt @ 67
Marcy has been on fire over at Next Hurrah.
Recently, Marcy has had multiple posts every day covering new angles on the ever-widening US Attorney scandal. She’s really breaking all kinds of new ground on this story and I, for one, am totally in awe.
So if the team all takes a shot at Imus’s nuts- will he sue em?
Mrs. K8 @ 84
yes
took me a minute, but — very clever, Eli!
Eli @ 102
Umm, I don’t her color matters… as long there’s a similar “bite.” :)
These RNC emails will be the damning evidence that takes this cabal down. The Nazis condemned themselves with their meticulous records. This bunch will damn themselves with their glib emails.
Just wait until we get their instant messages.
Cassie @ 98
{{{{{ ***hugs for the very wise Cassie*** }}}}}
Learning very, very tough things early in life can turn out later to have been a blessing, granting wisdom, even though the pain was still very much a curse.
NorskeFlamethrower @ 46
Hear, hear! I’ve been saying that for the last four years. Hope to see it happen in my lifetime. (I’m old like you Norske, so I want it to happen soon).
Noone like SNARKASSIE? What about SNARKASSANDRA?
Veritas78 @ 110
im in ur doj, firin ur usas.
TeddySanFran @ 104
Any scuttle-butt my hero Joe Wilson will return to YK2 this year?
We’ve thought every month that there was somethin about ta take Clusterfuck down- ain’t happened yet- I’d say there’s a good chance that it won’t happen- just more of the same.
Veritas78 @ 111
The Nazis had IBM punch card sorters. The Bushies have Blackberries.
Technology marches on…. :)
Cassie @ 101
Well, unless folks know that Snarkassie’s a play on your lovely name, it just gives the impression of being a town in rural upstate New York.
rwcole @ 116
My belief is that there *was* something on those servers that could do it… but not any more.
We may see the day that Bush and Rove regret the provisions in the Patriot Act that called for outside agencies to preserve server info.
Looks like they may have simply outsourced Richard Nixons in-house tape recording system.
-GSD
Eli @ 105
I am sure that they have their ways to get it. Did you read the subpoena????
Mrs. K8 @ 118
Snarkenechtady?
TeddySanFran @ 104
Wow! How freakin’ rude is THAT???
She’s got NO CLASS, whatsoever.
Mrs. K8’s “Snarkastic” is my favorite, by far.
Eli @ 120
Isn’t all traffic on Blackberries routed through the Canadian firm that created the Blackberry?
Speaking of Abramoff, and on the understanding that this is in EPU territory, can he be brought before a Congressional Committee now that he’s been threw the court system and forced to testify on pain of contempt? Can Waxman put the thumb screws to him? Just wondering, and hoping.
Eli @ 115
ROFL !!!!!
Data retrieval experts would likely be able to retrieve bits and pieces of “deleted” emails from the hard drives they were stored on, unless the drives have been physically removed and destroyed, or very secure deletion software was used to delete the emails. And we don’t know what kinds of backups they have. Those might contain the full copies of all emails.
What about all the wiretapping and confiscation of private phone calls and emails by the FBI? I know they just got their hands slapped on this one, but they could make up for bad past acts by pulling this one out of the fire.
They usurped our expectation of privacy, maybe it could be used against them? This is certainly a matter of national security I’d say if for no other reason than WH employees using non-secured methods of communication for official business.
It’s fun to dream eh.
NorskeFlamethrower @ 46
Norse, I’m starting to think I don’t want them impeached so long as Bush can pardon them.
http://judiciary.house.gov/Med…..070410.pdf
HERE IS THE SUBPOENA
Cassie @
114
I think I like that Snarkassandra,
And BTW, the addiction thing is a life long battle. Both of my parents were alcoholics and it is something that definetly runs in the family. Better to never start (says the man who finally quit drinking while he could before he had to).
Eli @ 120
I’m not email savvy, but it is my understanding that email is not like a truck, it is more like a series of tubes, and there are lots of copies of every email all over the tubes.
Thus, deletion on one one server does not mean absolute deletion of all copies of an email.
If true, this gives me some hope.
lolo @ 121
Well, no (I kinda suck at reading legal docs) – do you have a link? Is the NSA bound by it?
[Never mind]
Eli @ 123
LOL!!!
Cassie —
Actually Snarkassandra is the better of the two, because it makes a reference to something people actually KNOW. Snarkassie is not as good unless everybody already knows your name. They won’t realize it’s a play on a word. See?
Dems aren’t gonna get the right to go snoopin through the gooper tubes.
In honor of John Conyers.
Take it away MC Teddy.
-GSD
Cassie @ 114
I love the latter best of all Cassie. My late Dad loved Dorothy Thompson, a kick ass reporter and national treasure (she was kicked out of Berlin by personal order of Hitler for her dispatches before the USA joined WWII. One biographer of Thompson titled his book American Cassandra.
Have an extra copy if you want it Cassie. Just send me your address to newspaperbrat AT google DOT com. It is a wonderful read and I know you’d like it. ;~)
What about Snarkastro?
(It helps if you’re a Tick fan…)
It would be too bad a some RNC dumby “lost his laptop” I wonder what that little item would be worth to the right people?
lolo @ 56
Me too, Lolo! Okay, we’ll have some pie. How fast can you eat? Margarita? Cheers, cheers, hurry cheers. Gotta go? Too bad, I’ll walk you out NOW.
And congratulations, lolo, you made the FDL front page today.
Hear Ye Hear Ye! Let it be known throughout the Lakedom that Cassie has changed her name from now on forever more (or until she gets bored) ….. to …..
SNARKASSANDRA
(capital S, capital K)
(bow, bow, bow, bow)
Terry Olson @ 141
I did?????????????
SnarKassandra @ 142
All hail Princess SnarKassandra!
Rob Zuber @
103
What about all the wiretapping and confiscation of private phone calls and emails by the FBI? I know they just got their hands slapped on this one, but they could make up for bad past acts by pulling this one out of the fire.
They usurped our expectation of privacy, maybe it could be used against them? This is certainly a matter of national security I’d say if for no other reason than WH employees using non-secured methods of communication for official business.
It’s fun to dream eh. (Sorry didn’t get Ron’s name in there before)
CD @ 125
You have very good taste.
;-)
They stopped being the gooper toobz when the business of the United States of America was conducted through them.
“I now have an RNC blackberry which you can use to e-mail me at any time.”
newspaperbrat @ 83
Imus is a so-called Conservative or Republican and he admits to it occasionally. He runs a kids ranch to salve his wicked conscience and take the tax breaks. He’s not as stupid as he pretends to be. He knows that the Republicans have nearly wrecked our country, but Imus can’t help himself – he’s a genuine di*khead.
Coulter and the rest are pulling out the old liberal media meme because many misinformed and disconnected people still buy it. We know its a lie. The MSM is owned by corporations which constitute a part of the one percent who benefit from Republican tax breaks and other corporate welfare perks. The MSM is a right wing propaganda machine.
When wingers attack.
The Republican Jewish Coalition has unleashed their Swiftboating ads against Speaker Pelosi.
What about Halliburton’s dealings with Iran?
-GSD
dakine01 @ 144
DING! DING!
SnarKassandra @ 142
I bow in admiration — and take back my last comment about CD’s good taste.
[Ruh-roh, getting myself in trouble with CD now. “Whattaya mean I don’t have good taste?!?” um…I mean CD, you have great taste! But Snarkassandra rules!!!]
So troop fatalities are at an all time high at a quarter to date comparison. The escalation continues to escalate unabated with large numbers of NG’s called up and all troops held in Iraq basically indefinitely.
And we are not going to attack Iran with all of those ships in the gulf?
Ol’ Georgie pooh is sittin’ in his secret bar chuckling to himself (at congress and his daddy)..just waiting for Karl and Dick to tell him it’s time to play with the red phone again.
Cassie @ 114
Snarkassandra is very good.
GSD @
149
The link no longer works and the story was dissappeared on Thinkprogress.
Damn the toobz.
-GSD
this may be applicable -
TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 73 > 1505
1505. Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees
(emphasis mine)
link
GSD @ 149
And what about Tom DeLay saying that his money-laundering charge is “the same thing” as 6 million dead Jewish victims of Hitler?
A delightful read; some of the ways they data mine:
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05866.pdf
I have noticed that the upper ranks of the US military are starting to get hit really hard as of late.
Never a good sign when the warmongers start feeding the leadership into the gaping maw.
The US military is getting shredded.
-GSD
Oh Rats GSD@154 – da tubes giveth and taketh away – but it might yet turn up.
Clusterfuck’s got a few months to get his Surge surgin- If things are still this fucked up in July- it’s all over baby- and the goopers will be the first to bury this fucked up war.
Better go over there and lead the charge Clusterfuck!!
TeddySanFran @ 104
Teddy, I would be starstruck to be able to buy you a drink.
lolo @
35
That’s the one. Thanks, lolo – you are a gem.
edit: Bookmarked it this time. :->
cbl @ 154
Thanks, cbl! 5 years or less doesn’t sound all that bad…
Mrs. K8 @ 156
It’s all about proportionality. In the world according to The Hammer…Legal troubles for Tom Delay is the moral equivalent of genocide.
That’s the cream of the Republican leadership crop for ya.
-GSD
A wish….A dream:
I do agree with Mr. (?) Ms. Eli on this article. The R team will be hard-pressed to justify non-disclosure of referenced emails. Sooooo……what if said RNC server based emails contain chatter amongst BushCo sorts of how they’ve really got that Abramhoff investigation “under control” via friendly DOJ attorneys….oh what a snake-pile that would be!
Ghostman
Mrs K8 at 156 asks:
DeLay is deluded.
MoDo and Ana[l]MarieCox were really a hoot at YK — they wanted to be noticed and under the radar at the same time, and couldn’t figure out how to be both.
Probably, this year will be bigger, more loaded with press-celebrities, and completely different — but I am still planning to go. I imagine I’ll get a laptop for the occasion as well.
dakine01 @ 166
DeLay is deluded.
Delauded.
-GSD
lolo, ever since the RNC server news broke, I’ve giggled over Rove & co entire communication hstroy copied…
by the spook establishment he fucked over.
Can’t wait to see what Chairman Waxman will do with intel copies from gwb43 & co.
lolo @
97
Ghostman @ 164
(”Mr. Eli.”)
Or something along the lines of, “We gotta get rid of Lam, she’s getting way too close.”
dakine01 @ 166
DeLay is deluded.
Deluded is just a sad inability to process the facts. DeLay’s soul is psychotic.
Blank Kludge @ 162
Glad to help, I saw your request in the other thread.
A 30 disk RAID array has 30! (thirty factorial) possible combinations of disk drives in slots, which is 10**32. A very, very large number.
Take an operating array. Shut it down. Scramble the disks based on a random draw. Restart it. Run the initialize routine. For fun, run a DoD-compliant scrubbing utility on the blank space. Shut it down again. Rescramble and reinitialize. I would be very, very surprised if even the NSA could get anything useful off that array.
Cranky
dakine01 @ 166
DeLay is deluded.
Not to mention that he’s a classic case of a malignant narcissist.
Cranky Observer @ 172
Would they be able to tell that it had been done?
Eli @ 170
I think Feinstein knew this, and that’s why she kept at the USAttys story when no one except Josh was paying attention, back in January. Lam will be the key.
Ghostman @ 165
That would be a pretty, pretty thing.
Daily Show with Jon Stewart was disappointing last night. Stewart said that democrats are just as bad as republicans.
This is not true. Really uncool for Stewart to help spread right-wing disinformation in this critical time. All republicans are bad. Only a quarter of the democrats are nearly as bad as republicans.
Lou Costello @ 87
A few choice ones:
I couldn’t take it anymore!
Mr. Eli: yep and yep. I fully agree…and either scenario is entirely plausible. Plenty of snakes, we all suspect, lie beneath those rocks.
Ghostman
OT-
I cant stand Michael Bechloss’ fake tan.
The orangest historian ever!
Mrs. K8 @ 156
I do not understand this statement by DeLay.
Lam >> Foggo >> Wilkes >> Cheney
Cranky Observer @ 173
Do you think a commercial server host company in Chattanooga has that capability? Even with the assistance of the RNC, I would doubt it myself, although I may be mistaken.
Kirk, I know it’s called hiding in plain site. *g*
LS @ 70
Les fils mechants de la Maison Blanche.
greekstyleonline.com
That’s sounding like Matt or Jimmy/Jeff….
I just got back from a screening of Jesus Camp, and a Q&A with the directors. Very disturbing to see the mechanism in place for grooming the future Monica Godlings.
The directors held a very interesting discussion afterwards. Well informed and unbiased in their approach.
They’re going to investigate Tillman and Lynch. If they find RNC emails related to using those events to drum up support for the war, look out…that will fire up the people.
Hugh @ 186
Thank you Hugh – maybe I was speaking patois..;}
Oopah! Here were go. This just in from the NYT:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04…..rs.html?hp
Still reading, haven’t finished. Just wanted to share. Gist seems to be that the panel was looking into Republican complaints of “fraud” — vs. Dem complaints of suppression.
What about that damn NSA/Negropointe email-reading program they snuck back into production after it was cancelled?
Seems like you could get NICE copies of all the RNC emails that way!
Hoist by their own petard…
Some intriguing site names on that server:
greekstyleonline.com
georgebushbites.com
georgebushbites.net
georgebushblows.net
georgebushsux.com
georgebushsux.net
Oklahoma kiddo @
3
Rove is Viceroy of Domestic Affairs.
Cheney is Viceroy of Foreign Affairs.
They are co-equals.
The official Departments are fig leaves meant to distract Congress and the Press from the Real Work of the Imperium.
Bob in HI
OK @ #182 –
Understand DeLay’s statement?
That’s difficult, I know. It is incomprehensibly and massively narcissistic (on a previously uncharted scale) to believe that an “unfair” indictment on money-laundering charges is an “injustice” which is “the same” as the murder of six million Jews.
Staggering, ain’t it? Really, we’re at a linguistic disadvantage. There are NO WORDS for that kind of obscene delusion of grandeur.
I’m waiting for the ADL to jump down his throat and make him apologize yesterday already.
LS @ 189
If they find evidence on the RNC servers that Rove’s team are fucking with American Idol voting, that will fire up the people.
egb @ 191
No, I think it’s spelled “predator”.
*xyz @ 133
What are the chances that there is a patriot among the the people who received e-mails. And that the patriot knew something was wrong and saved them. And that Waxman might get a first-hand copy?
egb @ 192
idiots
TeddySanFran @ 195
Sanjaya would make a better president than Bush…
More from the Times:
Josh is going to have some fun tomorrow!
GSD @ 154
GSD- is this the same story? Different title, seems like it might be the same content.
Rep. Cantor Launches Partisan Smear Campaign Against Pelosi For Syria Visit
Mrs. K8 @ 195
I wouldn’t hold my breath on that. It’s appearing that even the ADL and like groups are/have been co-opted as they all KNOW that DeLay is such a GOOD friend to Israel.
montag @
126
Remember all the quibbling over whether the NSA’s domestic spying was limited to traffic inside the US or outside the US or something in-between?
I’ve long had a suspicion that the real intent of the domestic spying was for political purposes in advance of the 2004 and 2006 elections, and that the target included Blackberry-based communications since they are so endemic in Washington DC. Hence the lack of a clear-cut response on whether the target was domestic or foreign communications; technically, a Blackberry email sent/received in the U.S. ends up being both.
Ever wonder how RIM managed to overcome its rather difficult problem with patents??
Terry 198:
I’m sure that patriot is out there.
> Do you think a commercial server host
> company in Chattanooga has that capability?
> Even with the assistance of the RNC, I would
> doubt it myself, although I may be mistaken.
Yes, that is quite standard for any kind of e-mail system. A single large server with a 30-disk array would go for about $30k, although you could get some real bargains during the dotcom bust. A larger ISP would use some sort of distributed storage system so that even the loss of a single server would not bring all the mailboxes down, but that would make adversarial recovery even harder.
Cranky
I’d sure like to see the emails that went through Rove’s Blackberry during the period, of, oh, say, June, 2001-December, 2001.
Wouldn’t you?
Millineryman @ 188
I was wondering what you were up to! YGM. Lotsa M. ;)
dakine01 @
193
Either these were all defensive registrations (most likely) or maybe there is someone on the inside stockpiling tapes (I wish).
Eureka Springs @ 49
Army tours are for one year. Marine tours are for 210 days. Apparently there is a plan on the table to raise the tours to 15 months. I assume this does not cover the Marines. Special Forces tours are a lot shorter, a matter of weeks.
fyi -
(emphasis mine)
linky
cbl @ 210
Ooo… Excellent! Thank you!
Jon Stewart on Letterman about Tom Delay: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZQgZtCnfpU
lolo, Go back to the post Christy wrote staring BREAKING!
LS @ 189
Like to Susan Schmidt?
‘She Was Fighting to the Death’
Details Emerging of W. Va. Soldier’s Capture and Rescue
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..ge=printer
montag @ 207
yes !!!
dakine01 @ 193
you’re not kidding are ya? holy smokes….what a bunch of maroons.
Valley Girl @ 208
I noticed :), and a very intriguing concept. I have to wrap up some freelance work now, and I’ll respond tomorrow.
Yes…SnarKassandra rules! A classic, classic name, I say.
Follow the money. They paid these people to set up their oversight-evasion system. Even if they deleted the emails, the fact that they set it up to hide what they were doing, they’ve got major ’splainin’ to do. There is a money trail for sure.
cbl @ 211
Remember this little blast from the not too distant past?
This unusual and abnormal” archiving process” predates 2004…ahem.
Eli @ 115
all your DOJ are belong to us
At least some of the Abramoff emails from Ralston are not on the official address. I haven’t looked at all of them yet – started indexing them (no addr, I’d add that but most are redacted) but got sidetracked.
newspaperbrat @ 217
Ya think Gannon/Guckert might have anything to do with the greekstyleonline name? Just asking mind you… :})
newspaperbrat @
217
I’m baffled by the Greek Style one, but the negative ones are preventive, although it looks like they must have been too late for georgebushsucks.com.
the NSA has an unabridged copy of everything. could rep. reves, of the house intelligence committee politely inquire?
Terry Olson @ 214
That is nolo.
dakine01 @ 34
There are probably all sorts of forensic technologists who would absolutely LUV to get hold of some supposedly clean hard drives and servers and see what is hidden in the bits of 0s and 1s.
The only way to be sure you’ve burnt the data is to destroy the drive itself. Crush it, bath it in acid, shred it with powerful diamond-tipped blades… Sort of what I’d like… Oh, never mind. Damn threat laws.
Ever wonder how RIM managed to overcome its rather difficult problem with patents??
fwiw, settled with Fred Fielding’s firm, which represents the patent holder.
For some reason that quote reminded me of this scene:
LS @ 50
I’m not sure about these people being computer illiterate. one of the things that gave me early pause was the information that bush, when he was governor of texas, spent most of his time playing computer games in his office….of course he may have been playing strip poker with himself, but i believe the admin personnel are savvier than you think…
Eli,
I figured the Bush ones were preventative measures but the greeksyle is a definite puzzler.
cleter @ 11
yes, but what state are the RNC servers in and who’s the AG there?
LS @ 220
I still think this is a case where they would rather be busted for the coverup than the crime.
I don’t think wiping a server would cast them out into the wilderness for 30 years, but e-mails about using the USAs to suppress investigations or trump up fake ones might.
(Repeat: *might*)
lolo @ 226
Or no lolo.
I think I need to go to Snark-anon.
BTW, hooray for content that does not celebrate drugs and alcohol.
Different topic: did Susan Ralston testify last week to Congress, as Waxman requested? Was supposed to be April 5th.
One of my fantasy daydreams is that some mid-level NSA worker with a very healthy sense of irony has a CD-ROM of all of Karl’s e-mails.
judeanpeoplesfront @ 225
I’d rather Rep. Reves demanded – these cretons do not deserve another nano second of “polite” if I may be so impolite.
FWIW: link is under construction.
http://www.greekstyleonline.com/
Looks kinda sleazy.
greekstyle.com is a parking page for a. style international.
“R.S. Tool Clothing Company of Canada found the WTSC to be a perfect intermediary to assist it in successfully establishing its U.S. division, A-Style International, in Chattanooga.
Rayne @ 204
Oh, yes, indeed.
Yup. No disagreement on that. After all, there were persistent rumors that the Bushies had made changes to FISA protocols all by their lonesome, well before 9/11.
Hadn’t thought of it in this context, but, it was settled rather quickly, wasn’t it?
Actually, my dream scenario would be for the WH to produce a pile of documents and say, “Oh yah, this is absolutely everything, we totally pinky swear”, and then see Waxman or Conyers produce a rebuttal from the NSA, of everything that was withheld or deleted from the servers. So they get busted for the coverup *and* the crime.
Never happen, but fun to dream…
Millineryman @
188
They want a nice crop of Christian suiciders to combat the Moose-lim suiciders.
Creepy.
-GSD
P.S. Valleygirl, not the same. IT was a Swiftboat syle ad with the obligatory pic of Speaker Pelosi in the hijab….and blabbing about weakness and dictators and all that.
The usual lies and smears from the usual suspects.
Also, Thinkprogress has a story up about the winger sites claiming that the US military posted a picture calling into question the estimates of 10’s of thousands of Sadr supporters protesting the US.
Only the picture, which claims to be of Najaf is actually from Baghdad.
Ironically it is Fyrdos Square in Baghdad where the Saddam statue was toppled…you’ll notice just how many more people there are in that square in 2007 than were there in 2003.
montag @ 240
As a techie I thought it was a bit tooooo tidy, the way it was wrapped up. A little chit-chat, a little money, and they never have a burp in service…tooooo tidy…
CD @
219
Thanks !
Rayne @ 242
But isn’t that how things usually happen in the tech world?
Snarkadilly
Snarkadoozie
Snark-O-Rama
Eli @ 232
We have to keep digging. There is something out there I’m convinced. The people dealing with them are braggarts and think they are untouchable. Leave no stone unturned.
Cassie @
114
No! I like Snarkassie, or Snarcassie, for that matter. But then, I liked Snarkette, too.
Bob in HI
GSD @ 242
And remember: Beware the Elk, never trust an Elk
I think that’s from the Lord of the Rings, right?
Eli @ 241
Don’t count that out I am telling you this is big.
Redstate has issued a retraction noting that Baghdad is not Najaf and that they screwed-up.
-GSD
Hugh @ 249
Hey, wait a minute, I’M an Elk…
Ever wonder how RIM managed to overcome its rather difficult problem with patents??
Hadn’t thought of it in this context, but, it was settled rather quickly, wasn’t it?
Actually, no…..took forever, settlement was made once and then undone, and there was significant legal wrangling involved.
However, when it finally happened, it DID net Uncle Fred and his partners gazillions of dollars more than they already had. Hell, that was such a tsunami of legal fees, even the COPY machines got a piece.
Terry Olson @ 246
Ooooh, I like Snark-O-Rama.
Sounds like a really fun ride at the amusement park!
Although Snarkadilly, as in “Snarkadilly Circus” is good, too.
Yoga break: http://mfrost.typepad.com/cute…..d_dog.html
lolo @ 226
Dang. So sorry, lolo. You’d be on my front page.
GSD @ 251
I’m stunned.
Must be the End Times.
They have used the “Moonie” model with the right-wing Christians to create a modern day warrior to facilitate their agenda. It has infiltrated everything. This is some crazy (&^t.
oddmommy @ 253
But, was there not a very short time between the cease and desist order that caused interruption of service and the final agreement?
That’s what I’m thinking of, IIRC.
I did notice Karl Rove in one of the Najaf protest photos waving around a Coptix folder that said ‘Down, Down Boosh’.
-GSD
(waving to SnarKassandra)
Mrs. K8 @ 257
Mrs. K8, it’s the Snarpocalypse.
-GSD
Try to say that word 3 x fast!
GSD @ 260
hahaha
I can’t even say it once! lol
GSD @ 242
Hugh @ 249
dakine01 @ 252
Do you know how the Orcs first came into being? They were elks once, taken by the dark powers, tortured and mutilated. A ruined and terrible form of life.
Eli @
115
*gigglesnorts and falls out of her chair*
That seldom gets old, Eli.
But, was there not a very short time between the cease and desist order that caused interruption of service and the final agreement?
Actually IIRC myself, an actual interruption of service never happened. There WAS all kinds of s**t floating around about the Justice Department intervening b/c of “security concerns” — i.e, if our goons lose Blackberry service, all hell will break loose — but I believe the US gov’t was/would have been exempted from any cease and desist order that was entered.
TexasBetsy @ 263
I tried saying it ONCE and got stuck. You have my admiration!
Hugh @ 266 says
Well, at least we have female Elks now. I just got the newsletter for the lodge back home and the new ER is a woman. Of course, I can’t stand pain, so any torture and I give up the secrets toot sweet (I know, I know, I’m not spelling it correctly but I barely made it through Spanish and French just might as well be Greek.)
lolo @ 23
Terry Olson @
214
Hey T. Olson,
This thread might represent a good time to change your screen name if you’re still so inclined.
Just sayin’.
Hey — “Toot Sweet” would make a great screen name, too!
[I hope all the shy lurkers are taking note on the abundance of great screen names to be had just from this thread. C’mon step forward and say hi! You know you want to…]
Hugh @ 249
You must be thinking of Miss Anne Elk.
dakine01 @ 270
Well, at least we have female Elks now. I just got the newsletter for the lodge back home and the new ER is a woman. Of course, I can’t stand pain, so any torture and I give up the secrets toot sweet (I know, I know, I’m not spelling it correctly but I barely made it through Spanish and French just might as well be Greek.)
Actually I have no problem with elk but don’t get me started on caribou.
Mrs. K8 @
273
My pleasure to contribute to the cause in any way that I can. :})
TRexitude upstairs with the dish about Pammy’s d-i-v-o-r-c-e.
dakine01 @ 276
How does that saying go? “From each according to his abilities….”
(Well, they always call us Commies, anyways…)
The real question about the Abramoff sentence reduction talks is whether he “fully cooperated” by talkng his head off or by keeping his mouth shut. That there have been no new major indictments pretty much tells us the answer, doesn’t it?
earlofhuntingdon @ 278
My thoughts exactly. I remember reading about how he was so helpful that the FBI gave him his own desk. I wonder what he was using it for.
Balrog @ 272
To LooHoo?
MrsK8 @ 278,
I’m proud to be considered a commie in these days. Especially since I’m back living in one of those congressional districts that is so conservative, I do appear to be a commie in contrast. Oh for the days when I was in Mass 8th (Tip O’Neill/Joe Kennedy) or CT 2nd (Rosa DeLauro); districts so liberal I could be a moderate.
Hugh @ 275
Sounds like we shouldn’t moose with you on that.
Eli @
280
Job search interviews.
Doesn’t use of a non-official off-the-record email system make it harder for the administration to claim executive privilege for the emails so sent? Doesn’t the Republican claim that such emails were sent for political rather than governmental purposes (and so not requiring automatic preservation) destroy any claim of executive privilege? Aren’t they stuck between two unpleasant and incompatible claims: executive privilege, which implies official, and thus illegaL, or political and unofficial, and so, unprivileged?
dakine01 @ 282
I know precisely what you mean. I’m a Northeasterner myself, having spent many a year in Philly (that shameless ultra-liberal urban den of iniquity that spawned the Constitution and houses the Liberty Bell). In other words, commie pinko territory.
Now I’m in Arizona. On our very first day driving into the Valley of the Sun, our route took us through Wickenburg — where we saw for the very first time in our lives a billboard advertising the John Birch Society.
Gulp.
I’m assuming they’re busted, the jig is up. They know that if they release any of the notes/emails subpoenaed today, they are toast. So they’re going to fight it tooth and nail, by hook or by crook. Bush will do something extreme before he’ll willingly cough up another scrap. All they can do is buy time and manufacture diversions.
Why does the administration need to hide behind ‘executive privilege? Why can’t the White House and the Justice department get their stories straight? Repeat. Drip, drip…
Number Cruncher @ 284
Again, my thoughts exactly.
Just like how Bush is simultaneously trying to claim executive privilege *and* total ignorance.
sophonisba @
230
The folks doing IT work for RNC domains left footprints so damned big that a middle-aged mother armed with nothing more than a Big Box computer and internet access could figure out what was what…
Imagine if that same middle-aged mother was armed with a network sniffer.
Savvy at political ratf*cking? Yes. Technology? No; the only thing they had going for them was our naivete and cognitive dissonance. They ratf*cked us with the TANG documents — but they couldn’t pull 3000 pages of documents over our eyes. We read them inside 24 hours. They tried to pull the GWB43.com on us, but there are those among us who’ve known for years now what they were doing, and until the perfect storm occurred, they couldn’t get a critical mass of folks to pay attention to the technical storyline behind the email servers.
It’s more complex than folks have discussed here, but it’s still entirely followable by average citizens. Those same servers also contained communications related to multiple elections — how are they going to separate those emails as political party versus White House? Going to be damned hard…and we’re not even yet talking about the election data that went through those servers.
We may have been naive and suffering from cognitive dissonance, but we learn FAST.
Took a look at the Abramoff e-mail PDFs. Ralston used an address at rnchq.org in 2001 and 2002, and one at georgewbush.com in 2002-2004. There’s one from Abramoff complaining about one that ‘got into the White House e-mail system’ from (IIRC) 2003, in file 932_001 around page 14 or 16 of 52 (something to do with CNMI).
This may tie him in again… Can they subpoena his stuff from the WH side now? And his files should be correlated with the DOJ dumps, just in case there’s something that got missed by us not knowing what it was referring to.
If you can’t get them on the Presidential Records Act, or get them on the contents of those servers, then you can sure as hell get them on lax security.
Time for Waxman to get the head of White House IT and the guy who does security clearances, and ask about whether these political servers have been subject to a governmental security audit. If they have, it’s treading on a Hatch Act violation. If they haven’t, then anyone using them needs to have their clearances revoked.
P J Evans @ 290
Great Catch P J Evans! Hope you re-post your comment upstairs. woo hoo!
We still haven’t seen an email originating from those servers outside of the Abramoff case, but we’ve seen copies of emails from Jennings in replies. (And let’s not forget Tasia Scolinas’s Yahoo account. Or the GMail account used by another DOJer.)
And here’s the interesting thing: since we already know (or can be pretty damn certain) that ‘presidential records’ as defined by the PRA exist on the server, it pretty much throws open the entire RNC archive for scrutiny.
It’s not the job of the RNC to distinguish legally-defined ‘presidential records’ from party political communications. That’s the job of the Archivist of the United States.
Surely, there’s some investigative snoop (i.e. reporter) out there who can get their hands on some of those emails.
There must be whistleblowers out there who, if not for the sake of the nation, but because they’ve been screwed by these people, would love to spill their guts. Maybe both.
This kind of thing happened with regularity in the Vietnam/Nixon/Watergate days. What a scoop, a real career maker if someone could manage it. Dangerous too no doubt. We need some Geek heroes out there.
It’s happened. Per Talking Points Memo, from AP:
“The White House said Wednesday it had mishandled Republican Party-sponsored e-mail accounts used by nearly two dozen presidential aides, resulting in the loss of an undetermined number of e-mails concerning official White House business.”
Nixon and Rosemary Woods are amateurs compared to Rove and his professional “cleaners.”