
To America's everlasting shame, the Bush/Cheney regime continues to incur almost universal condemnation for its lawless and inhuman policies towards those captured/seized in Afghanistan, Iraq, and elsewhere and thrown into US-run prisons. There have been enough stories of false arrests or paid bounter hunters turning over members of rival tribes and sects as "insurgents" or "al Qaeda," to go along with those "legitimately" seized during what passes for military operations — operations which in truth are often no better than US forces breaking down the doors of Iraqi homes and seizing those suspected of resisting the American occupation. With the US occupation becoming increasingly hated by the Iraqis, the pool of potential resistance is probably growing a lot faster than US forces can arrest suspects, and the increased presence of more US troops will likely exacerbate that situation.
No one argues against the notion that in a genuine war, combatants must detain captured soldiers from the other side. But even putting aside arguments against the "legitimacy" of our wars, instead of treating even the "legitimate" detainees as prisoners of war and according them the full rights promised to such prisoners by international law, the United States continues to insist, despite universal condemnation, that its detainees deserve worse treatment than what international law guarantees to prisoners of war. The evil and self-defeating stupidity of this policy is evident to almost everyone except the Bush/Cheney regime (Gates possibly excepted) and its remaining, mindlessly loyal 30 percenters.
Nowhere is this continuing stain on America's honor doing more serious damage to our interests, our prestige and our ability to walk with pride and safety in the world than at Guantanamo, where a prison has been deliberately built to sustain the argument that it is outside the normal requirements of American law. But it is that very "extra-legal" argument, codified in the Military Commissions Act and it's "kangaroo courts" by a shameless Republican-led Congress last year, and accepted for now by an all too tolerant Supreme Court, that is fostering even worse conditions at Guantanamo.
If you tell a group of desperate men that they're in a system that is outside the law, with no meaningful recourse and no meaningful checks on the recurrence of cruel and inhuman treatment other than the whims of their jailors, you've essentially told them they have no reason to live — or no reason to fear dying. And once this is widely known by potential combatants, as it surely is, then you give them every reason to fight you to the death rather than talk or surrender.
So it should come as no surprise that there has been a recent surge in Gitmo prisoners undergoing hunger strikes, either to create enough attention to force changes or simply to kill themselves. From a late Sunday article in the New York Times:
A new, long-term hunger strike has broken out at the American detention center at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, with more than a dozen detainees subjecting themselves to daily force-feeding to protest their treatment, military officials and lawyers for the detainees said.
Lawyers for several hunger strikers said their clients' actions were driven by harsh conditions in a new maximum security complex to which about 160 prisoners have been moved since December.The 13 detainees now on hunger strikes is the highest number to endure the force-feeding regimen on an extended basis since early 2006, when the military broke a long-running strike with a new policy of strapping prisoners into "restraint chairs" while they are fed by plastic tubes inserted through their nostrils. . . .
"We don't have any rights here, even after your Supreme Court said we had rights," one hunger striker, Majid al-Joudi, told a military physician, according to medical records released recently under a federal court order. "If the policy does not change, you will see a big increase in fasting." . . .
Lawyers for several detainees being held in the new maximum security complex, called Camp 6, compared it to "super-max" prisons in the United States. The major differences, they said, are that the detainees have limited reading material and no television, and that only 10 of the roughly 385 men at Guantánamo have been charged.
The Camp 6 inmates are generally locked in their 8-by-10-foot cells for at least 22 hours a day, emerging only to exercise in small wire cages and shower. Besides those exercise periods, they can talk with other prisoners only by shouting through food slots in the steel doors of their cells.
"My wish is to die," one reported hunger striker in the camp, Adnan Farhan Abdullatif, a 27-year old Yemeni, told his lawyer on Feb. 27, according to recently declassified notes of the meeting. "We are living in a dying situation."
I have no idea what these men have done, or why. Given the track record, some (perhaps many) are likely innocent; others not. But I don't care, because what they've done is not the point. This is about us, about who we are and what we stand for. No human being deserves to be treated in this manner. No government has the moral right to treat any human being this way. Under George Bush and Dick Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gonzales, Libby, Addington, Yoo, Hayes, et al, our government has become immoral, inhumane and lawless, and it needs to be changed. And those responsible should be held accountable. Enough.
Related posts:
- Taxi to Guantanamo: Uzbek Driver, Under 18 When Detained, Released to Ireland
- The Bazaar for Deals at Guantanamo
- Pete Hoekstra: US Shouldn’t Close Guantanamo — It’s a “Great Place”
- If You Believe Guantanamo Makes Us Safer, You Should Have Been Here Today
- Admiral Mike Mullen: Guantanamo a “Recruiting Symbol” for Al Qaeda, Should Be Closed





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Good morning, Scarecrow!
Ah, me. It’s been a long time since I was first to a post!
You have to think when Iran parades the British soldiers in front of the media, that even though it’s totally unacceptable, we did it. So what can we say? And when the British claim that their conditions were horrible and they thought they were going to die and were coerced into confessing – what can we say? How could that be any worse than Guantanamo? And even if they were in Iraqi waters, couldn’t the Iranians make the same claim that Bush is making – that you can pick up any enemy of the state, anywhere in the world, and hold them indefinitely? It’s lucky that they were released.
Likely will be conversation about the chastened Imus this morning. I wrote at the end of the last thread [@ 5:14 a.m.] in the context of teaching moments, and that comment got long, so I’ll just invite you to look back for it, not replay.
Teaching moments matter.
Thanks for everything FDL does to give us teaching moments that we can pass along to others.
Thanks Scarecrow for this post. There is so much dirty stuff out there that Bush is doing, it’s hard to keep it all in mind, and I needed this reminder that there are people suffering because we are not living up to our own constitution. You’re right, it’s about us, not about them so much.
I also am keeping in mind the slave laborers in the Marianna Islands that the Tom DeLay crowd has kept in chains. I’m hoping that our congress doesn’t forget them either.
This is just one more chunk of Rummy’s legacy. Damn him and the horse he rode in on.
I sure would like Clinton/Obama/Edwards to declare themselves the anti-torture candidate. I did a depressing survey of all the candidates’ websites, both Ds & Rs, to see how often torture and Guantanamo are mentioned. Edwards mentions it on occasion, and Kucinich a lot. For the rest, nothing, except McCain (who references only his own torture by the North Vietnamese). Very discouraging.
Good morning everyone. The calendar says Spring, the forecasters say more snow is possible and Mother Nature is confused.
Imus in contrition, eh? It won’t last much beyond Easter.
I have no idea what these men have done, or why. Given the track record, some (perhaps many) are likely innocent; others not.
That actually makes it worse for me. Suspicions that Gitmo is full of elderly shoe makers so to speak, or peasants/rural types forced into service of the T*liban– it makes me want to tear my hair out. I mean imagine what can happen psychology-wise to someone who goes through the legitimate prison system for some minor non-violent felony.
OT, but torture- and hence Gonzo-related… EPU’d from yesterday…
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And LO! And so it came to pass that it was blog-commented on the Holy Day of the Bunny, that verily the “BeGonezalez” drumbeat accelerateth. I hereby repeateth and reiterateth my prediction of yore that Prince Alberto will be in the can prior to the advent of his Congressional testimony, currently scheduled for April the 17th.
The probability of cannitude is undeniably increasing, neh? :)
Thanks for the great post, Scarecrow.
I wanted to share what was on the front page of my paper today, only slightly OT. It appears the Dems are about to roll over on the Iraq timeline. This is why I remain Independent.
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs…..90338/1009
Good mornin’ all:
Pres. Pissypants nearly blows himself up (via HuffPo):
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb…..070338/114
Back later…
mui @ 9
I think if was Rumsfeld who once described the Gitmo detainees as the “worst of the worst” or something like that; then we released dozens of them, after holding them for years. Glenn Greenwald has been tracking this.
Spooner @ 11
This is just a guess, but I think what’s happening is that Levin is sending a signal to the Republicans that they face a series of votes in which they’ll be forced to vote against funding the troops and against reasonable benchmarks, etc. I don’t think Levin is speaking to the WH, because no one there listens anyway.
Thanks, Scarecrow. I love my country. I’m ashamed of my country. And I think that’s where part of Americans’ terrible cognitive dissonance lies. We’ve been force-fed the notion that expressing our shame and disgust about the horrors of the Bush Men makes us non-patriots. Some have bought that idea. Hogwash!! Ramp it up! But pick a slogan, because Bush years (and before) have conditioned this country to one-liners that (inaccurately) describe the situation. Lakoff 101. Oh. It’s cold and sunny here. Snow due tomorrow (sigh).
How can it be that since 9/11 and all the talk about the war on terror, there is not one conviction against a terrorist? Why is prosecuting these guys so difficult? There are only two possible answers. One, they were tortured, as they claim, and so any evidence against them is tainted. Or two, there is no evidence. Otherwise, there are clear and usable laws in place that could have easily been used.
A little OT, except that it relates to King Torture Legislator himself, Gonzo – there was piece on NPR asking what happened to all the prosecutions related to Abramoff. He came clean and named a bunch of Repugs, and since then, only one prosecution. WTF?
GeorgeSimian — well, they did get a reduced plea bargain for the Australian — he’ll be released in months, after serving five years for . . . what? Training with the Taliban? It helps if you’re white and your country’s PM is a friend of Bush.
Scarecrow @ 13
Scarecrow, Quite honestly I think Rumsfeld was full of crap. Add to that, ChimpCo has done everything in its power to shield Gitmo from the public scruinty. Instead we get glimpses of orangejumpsuits with bags over their heads.I think in the perverted minds of ChimpCo, those are supposed to “reassure” the public that Chimpy is “tough on terrorists. Like gee, anyone can “look” like a prisoner when wearing an orange jumpsuit and bag over the head. That way we can’t see the humanity on the faces of these men. Then there are all those stories of obstacles put in the way of a lawyer/client relationship.
Yeah, I know I should check on what Glenn Greenwald says. I have the book too.
Oh jeez — There’s another story on how uncivil the blogs are — someone wants to set up a code of conduct and rating system.
Scarecrow @ 17
Does that one really count? They released a bunch of them back to their own countries too, where most of them were released. Go figure.
The happy sacrifice of America’s moral authority under Bush/Cheney is almost too sad for words.
On a more off-topic & sarcastic note, NBC announces a new comedy IMUS & ANDY!.
In which I sort of bring back a Jane, Joe Lieberman classic.
It’s quite uncivil of my blog.
Its been how many years we should just let them all go? If these guys had any information they either gave it up a long time ago or they will never give it up. Unfortunalty after the way bush treated these guys if these guys were not terrorists before if we release them they probably will join a terror group now. I say set them free say were sorry give them a million each and free medical/psyche care. That and we promise to send them video of Cheney, Rumsfeld and bush acting out their favorite scenes from HBO’s OZ after there locked up accidently in the Nation of Islam cell block.
typo “it’s kangaroo ‘courts’”
What is still shocking to me is that this could happen here all so easily. The Constitution is studded with safeguards to protect us from an executive out of control, and they have all failed us–the Congress, the press, the courts and, ultimately, the citizenry.
Scarecrow @ 8
Looks like it will be too warm for snow on the CT shoreline. *hope*
GeorgeSimian -
wtf indeed
oh, and others are asking as well (pdf)
nothing like seeing Scarecrow in the morning
Scarecrow @ 19
You know, I wrote to that guy Brad saying “WTF?”.
Nobody runs a blog without making decisions about moderation policies. Those decisions range from wingnut blogs who don’t permit commentary at all like Instaputz, to the Freepers who only permit comments that toe the line, to the tough moderation here to the user moderation of TPM and DKos. But you can’t even think about a blog without thinking about moderation policies. Weird that he would go to Jimmy Wales and Tim O’Reilly to talk about the need for blogger moderation.
And not a word about Amanda Marcotte.
Scarecrow @ 17
Well, it helps if you *have* a government period. The stateless have no protection whatsoever.
something else…. no human being deserves to be told to do that to another human being. think of the soldiers being commanded to treat human beings with forced feedings and isolation (let alone other tortures). think of the soldiers watching people under their power being psychologically destroyed.
the far greater harm is to the oppressed… but the moral corruption and psychological damage to the oppressor is very real.
closing gitmo (and all the other “secret” prisons) is necessary for all of us.
The U.S. Senate ratified the Geneva protocols, and by Article VI of the U.S. constitution:
In Hamdan, SCOTUS held that Common Article 3 of the Geneva Protocols applies to detainees in the Global War on Terror. At the time many of these outrages were committed, the War Crimes Act of 1996 was in full effect (i.e., undiminished by the Military Commissions Act of 2006), and so violations of Common Article 3 were federal crimes prosecutable in federal courts.
Also, according to the Wikipedia:
In other words, if the house were to impeach Bush and Cheney for these crimes, they couldn’t pardon each other and would be twisting slowly in the breeze until they resigned, their terms ran out, or the Senate got around to trying them. Hmmmmmmmmm.
Attaturk @ 21
That’s funny. I can’t wait to see the pics of “our Miss Brooks.”
Scarecrow @ 13, “the worst of the worst” are Bush&Co.
O/T. This is how we are going to get out of Iraq–we will be thrown out. If it’s bloody, and who doubts it won’t be, it will be because of the madness of Bush and Cheney. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04…..aq.html?hp
cbl @ 25
This stuff makes me sick. What’s the next step? April 17th hearing? I have a feeling that’s going to be a frustrating event.
selise @ 29
this needs to be read several times. And read it slowly, let the words sink into your mind, your thoughts.
this disrupts the soul
Just for the record if the FBI or kkkarl is reading this if bush starts rounding up political opponets and locking them up I want to shipped to Iran as part of that CIA outsourcing torture program.
Wigwam @ 30
Yes and we could tell Scooter No pardon for you! It’s to late! Then we will hear all the birds sing whoose fathers should have sung during Watergate! We must impeach bush and cheney together!
Scarecrow @
14
what reasonable benchmarks? isn’t the key to keep the withdrawal timeline?… which levin seems to be caving on?
what might a such a signal to R congress critters accomplish? we’re going to make you take lots of unpleasant votes, so you better….do what?
i’m confused. i can’t make any sense of levin’s actions… could you spell it out for me? thanks.
selise @ 29
True. Although I find it hard to sympathize with Lyndsey (sp?) Englund& Friends, even if they were following orders.
Iran just announced it is stepping up its nuclear program to the next level, i.e., industrial. Peace in the valley.
barbara @
15
“Incompetance does not preclude Evil”
jayackroyd @
23
thanks — typo fixed.
Yes, and we still don’t know how far gone the S.Ct is. There may or may not be five votes left to overturn the MCA when the right case comes along.
barbara @
39
Iran ‘enters new nuclear phase’
Scarecrow @
17
apparently howard had an election coming up. and hicks’ lawyer is very smart.
Haven’t seen anyone point out the strange locution in the NYT article
Huh? Subjecting themselves? I think not. I think it is us who are subjecting them to force feeding, n’est pas?
eCAHNomics @ 44
It’s called “blaming the victim.”
I have asked this question many times, and never received an answer. WHY does the US have a military prison in Cuba? America doesn’t have any relations (diplomatic) with Cuba, and hasn’t for decades.
Why, then, can we own a camp there?
The “terrorists” Bush predicts will come here to get us may well be those released at GITMO should we ever get a government here that takes steps to undo the injustice and cruelty we visited on the detainees.
things come undone @ 36
Yes and we could tell Scooter No pardon for you! It’s to late! Then we will hear all the birds sing whoose fathers should have sung during Watergate! We must impeach bush and cheney together!
Yes, these perps cannot be allowed to slip free. They must be held accountable.
Guantanimo and the “regime in place there” is a good place to “store” this administration after it is sent to the Hague and also to place its largest supporters and enablers. IMO let the regime expire with the regime ala Hess – no contact what-so-ever with outside world. America needs to re-establish both Constitution and Law as well as recovering the economic means of production from those who financed the attempted coup de e’tat. Ist step, public financing of elections with no more than 60 days of campaigning, no electioneering for 5 days prior to election. Folks, get a grip. All the best……
Shell @ 46
From wiki:
For rest of story: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G…..Naval_Base
mui @ 28
important and sad point…. that would include millions of palestinians.
selise — I don’t know what’s in Levin’s mind. But it’s possible the Dems have concluded that they cannot force withdrawal unless (1) Bush/Cheney are removed from office or (2) a lot more Republicans support withdrawal to overcome a veto. Forcing the Republicans to vote over and over against the wishes of the voters is one way to put pressure on the Repubs to do either/both. And if, as I suspect, the surge just results in more deaths and little real “progress” as the weeks roll by, then each vote will become more and more difficult for the Republicans. It’s just a guess, but I think Levin may be sending that signal to Repubs.
Shell @ 46
Guantanamo is a US military base whose rights were ceded to the US under duress decades ago.
Wigwam @ 45
It’s CALLED more NYT stenography and uncritical journalism. Who is the putz who committed this so-called act of journalism?
Shell @ 46
It’s “dirty lawyer tricks”-a legal dodge.. If it’s not on US soil, it’s not subject to US laws
Thanks for this post Scarecrow. This is just sickening.
thank you, Scarecrow @ 52.
The only reason Guantanamo is still open is the same reason we’re still in Iraq — because the most important thing for Bush and Cheney is never to admit a mistake.
Just evil.
Shell @ 46
An ancient treaty with Cuba gives us the “right” to have a base there. But the interesting question is “Why house GWoT detainees there, rather than in the U.S.?” The answer is that BushCo thinks the detainees will have fewer rights (less protection) there than they would on U.S. soil.
Christy has a new post ready.
Have a good morning, everyone.
Scarecrow @ 53
In the hopes that our hold over Guantanamo might be limited, like the U.K.’s over Hong Kong, I Googled up this on FindLaw: http://tinyurl.com/2ujhpn — which says
The United States has occupied the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base under a lease with Cuba since 1903, as modified in 1934. Lease of Lands for Coaling and Naval Stations, Feb. 23, 1903, U.S.-Cuba, T.S. No. 418 (6 Bevans 1113) (”1903 Lease”); Relations With Cuba, May 9, 1934, U.S.-Cuba, T.S. No. 866 (6 Bevans 1161) (”1934 Lease”). In the 1903 Lease, “the United States recognizes the continuance of the ultimate sovereignty of the Republic of Cuba” over the naval base. 1903 Lease, art. III. The term of the lease is indefinite. 1903 Lease, art. I; 1934 Lease, art. III (”So long as the United States of America shall not abandon the said naval station at Guantanamo or the two Governments shall not agree to a modification of its present limits, the station shall continue to have the territorial area that it now has….”). …(Boldfacing mine)
:( , my beloved country.
conniptionfit @ 54
I think we should coin a word for this type of presstitution: Johnalism.
In all things Iraq, this administration has the proverbial “tiger by the tail” and they have no clue how to let go.
… or even that they should.
Yes. Enough.
But how? I look around, all I see are those bloggers and voters supporting the same old, tired politicians that never change a thing. This is an abomination, and Pelosi states impeachment is off the table. Removes language requiring Bush to obtain congressional approval to invade Iran, because it might hurt Israel.
Yes. Enough.
Even when placed back in positions of power, they swallow the whistle.
Time to vote for anyone, ANYONE other than a republican or democrat.
THANK YOU to all who answered my question.
It is always darkest before the dawn. And during the darkest time a single ray of hope is most welcome. I found such a ray over at C&L in a story about Lt. Col. V. Stuart Couch. This is what a real hero looks like. I would like to plug the BSA here as I’m using their program to help me create leaders such as this Eagle scout. Scouting helps create leaders like the Lt. Col. and leadership is most essential when one finds oneself lost and alone.
spirilis @ 70
thank you for the thoughtful reply. your troop might be ok for cubscouts, especially if oaths aren’t used (although i’m really not ok with teaching kids they have to believe in a god)… but when they get older the descrimination against gays can’t be hidden. i don’t think it helps to try to ignore it…. maybe if it is confronted head on it would be ok – but wouldn’t that get the troop in trouble?
as far as i know, our church’s (UUA) “religious emblem program” is not even recognized by the BSA…. apparently because the UUA is not sufficiently discriminatory.
wish there was a good alternative… better yet, i wish the BSA would learn that the bigotry they practice is in contratidiction with their best principles.
“Just evil”
Yep.
Thanks for this piece Scarecrow. And keep in mind that where Levin’s co-sponsored Detainee Treatment Act attempted to circumvent the holding in Rasul, that law DID apply at GITMO, by enacting law that said GITMO was a “carve out” from the habeas statute – -
we are now in an even worse situation. The MCA creates a much much much worse situation.
selise @ 68
Selise
Generalities are not specifics. You need to shop around for a troop or group that fits you and your boys. I am a Taoist raised in a Catholic tradition. I’m a biologist, know that Darwinian theory is correct and am a practicing public health environmentalist. I believe that gays, indeed all people are entitled to the “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights. . .” rights and truths the Founders envisioned but were unable to implement.yet. Our pack (Cub Scouts) is sponsored by the Methodist Church but there are no “loyalty tests” for membership nor do I hide any of my personal beliefs from the group. Indeed I was forced to step into a breach in the leadership with skills I’m not confident that I posses. My “real” job requires me to force people to do things they don’t always want to do with money they don’t want to and often times don’t have to spend. I became very effective at it when I began to treat everyone as the individual that they are. We all have our own unique set of fingerprints. Scouts are just groups of like-minded people so just find your group. Peace
Don’t miss the April 8th http://www.balkin.blogspot.com tale of Walter F. Murphy, emeritus professor at Princeton and retired Marine colonel. An expert on constitutional law and politics, he gave a speech criticizing Bush and found himself on the Do Not Fly list.
Further evidence suggesting that the politicization of American government goes far beyond indicting Democrats on questionnable claims of “voter fraud”.
Democrats are accountable too. Obama voted for Patriot Act renewal.
They stood by while all these affronts to this country happened, and put poll-driven fear, and consultant driven political strategizing ahead of the interests of the country and its future.
As the old saying goes, those who stand for nothing will fall for anything. Same goes for anyone who reflexively votes for and defends a candidate just because they have a (D) in front of their name.
eCAHNomics @
44
“n’est-ce pas?”
spirilis @ 70 -
somehow my reply to you ended up as an edit to my 68…. just wanted to let you know there was a reply and where to find it…
Scarecrow @
53
Exactly. The US acquired its “lease” of the naval base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, as a spoil of war at the end of the Spanish-American War. The term “lease” was used to deny that the US – unlike the Spanish, whose imperial territory we acquired, and those nasty Europeans, who were then carving up China and Africa – had imperial ambitions. In addition to Guantanamo Bay, the US acquired control over the Philippines, Puerto Rico and Hawaii.
“Lease”, as used to describe US rights in Guantanamo Bay, is a legal fiction – like Kennedy saying he was instituting a “quarantine” instead of a blockade of Cuba in 1962. A “blockade” is an act of aggression justifying war; a quarantine was a new coinage meant to signify something more restrained. It wasn’t really; Kennedy just didn’t want it to lead to war.
This lease gives the US exclusive jurisidction over Guantanamo for as long as it wants it. All that’s missing is the transfer of legal title, which is normally necessary to confer “sovereignty”. Mr. Bush clung to that technicality to suggest that the US had no control over what goes on there. (Which would have surprised the Navy and Marine Corps units stationed there.)
The US Supreme Court discarded that fiction (sadly, the lower courts did not), which led Mr. Bush to cajole a corrupt 109th Congress to enact the Military Commissions Act, in order to deny his prisoners their day in court.
Question to candidate: Should we close the prison at Guantanamo?
Right answer: Close Guantanamo. Bulldoze it. Plow it under and burn the soil.
Selise,
“better yet, i wish the BSA would learn that the bigotry they practice is in contratidiction with their best principles.”
Me too! I believe I can do more on the inside however and my sons get tested & proven training in values education. All of the Atheists I know are far stronger in their faith than I ever was in Christianity and I was an alter boy and loved and still do the ritual of it all. Change is mostly incremental (Darwin) and while still massive in its presence racism and homophobia are in a decline that I hope is irreversible. Thank you for your kind indulgence of my opinion. Peace
We have no statesmen or wisemen in this administration. We have modern day pirates occupying our government. It’s time to fly the jolly roger over the White House. Everyone in the world knows what they are – why not just come out now, and proclaim themselves? Yeah, and those American flag pins on their lapels, they can change those too. Skull & cross bones mateys…….just like at Yale. At least it will spare the indignity to our colors – and no one will be tempted to confuse the current officials with the tradion of American justice.
looks like our government is using those men as guinea pigs to test prolonged unjust detention on them and to test ways of ‘managing’ the reaction in the streets
looks like our government is preparing to use those means elsewhere when the time is right
looks like The Rich in America who fund the Republicans in America fear something and they’re getting ready to apply a large dose of violent ‘control’ to protect themselves
looks like America is in for something rather nasty, maybe an economic crash, who knows what