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	<title>Comments on: Book Salon:  Andrew Cockburn on Rumsfeld</title>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/08/book-salon-andrew-cockburn-on-rumsfeld/#comment-611964</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 10:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great: our answer (and a better one) to the Kagan brothers and wife Kimberly.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great: our answer (and a better one) to the Kagan brothers and wife Kimberly.</p>
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		<title>By: lolo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/08/book-salon-andrew-cockburn-on-rumsfeld/#comment-611428</link>
		<dc:creator>lolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 02:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-611235&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;SeamusD @ 198 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is off topic, but just ran across this from Brent Budowsky, via BuzzFlash.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/contributors/68&quot;&gt;http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/contributors/68&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;9&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One of the Democratic Party’s leading pollsters, consultants and strategists is quoted in the Washington Post as advising Democrats to avoid taking a strong stand against the troop surge and escalation of the war in Iraq.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ms. Celinda Lake is quoted as follows: “people are not looking to their individual members of Congress to solve the Iraq war.” And: advising Democrats to focus on domestic issues rather than opposing the escalating war, Ms. Lake is quoted saying this is “the perfect juxtaposition.” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Celinda Lake is the president of Lake Partners and is”&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt; “one of the Democratic Party’s leading political strategists, serving as tactician and senior advisor to the national party committees, dozens of Democratic incumbents and challengers at all levels of the electoral process.”&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(((((Hillary))))))&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-611235"><em>SeamusD @ 198 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>This is off topic, but just ran across this from Brent Budowsky, via BuzzFlash.</p>
<p><b><a href="http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/contributors/68">http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/contributors/68</a></b>9<br />
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<p>One of the Democratic Party’s leading pollsters, consultants and strategists is quoted in the Washington Post as advising Democrats to avoid taking a strong stand against the troop surge and escalation of the war in Iraq.</p>
<p>Ms. Celinda Lake is quoted as follows: “people are not looking to their individual members of Congress to solve the Iraq war.” And: advising Democrats to focus on domestic issues rather than opposing the escalating war, Ms. Lake is quoted saying this is “the perfect juxtaposition.” </p>
<p>Celinda Lake is the president of Lake Partners and is”<br />
<em> “one of the Democratic Party’s leading political strategists, serving as tactician and senior advisor to the national party committees, dozens of Democratic incumbents and challengers at all levels of the electoral process.”</em></p>
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<p>(((((Hillary))))))</p>
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		<title>By: HotFlash</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/08/book-salon-andrew-cockburn-on-rumsfeld/#comment-611418</link>
		<dc:creator>HotFlash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 02:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-611235&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;SeamusD @&lt;br /&gt;
                198              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is off topic, but just ran across this from Brent Budowsky, via BuzzFlash.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/contributors/68&quot;&gt;http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/contributors/68&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;9&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One of the Democratic Party’s leading pollsters, consultants and strategists is quoted in the Washington Post as advising Democrats to avoid taking a strong stand against the troop surge and escalation of the war in Iraq.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ms. Celinda Lake is quoted as follows: “people are not looking to their individual members of Congress to solve the Iraq war.” And: advising Democrats to focus on domestic issues rather than opposing the escalating war, Ms. Lake is quoted saying this is “the perfect juxtaposition.” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Celinda Lake is the president of Lake Partners and is”&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt; “one of the Democratic Party’s leading political strategists, serving as tactician and senior advisor to the national party committees, dozens of Democratic incumbents and challengers at all levels of the electoral process.”&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Who is she married to?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-611235"><em>SeamusD @<br />
                198              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>This is off topic, but just ran across this from Brent Budowsky, via BuzzFlash.</p>
<p><b><a href="http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/contributors/68">http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/contributors/68</a></b>9<br />
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<p>One of the Democratic Party’s leading pollsters, consultants and strategists is quoted in the Washington Post as advising Democrats to avoid taking a strong stand against the troop surge and escalation of the war in Iraq.</p>
<p>Ms. Celinda Lake is quoted as follows: “people are not looking to their individual members of Congress to solve the Iraq war.” And: advising Democrats to focus on domestic issues rather than opposing the escalating war, Ms. Lake is quoted saying this is “the perfect juxtaposition.” </p>
<p>Celinda Lake is the president of Lake Partners and is”<br />
<em> “one of the Democratic Party’s leading political strategists, serving as tactician and senior advisor to the national party committees, dozens of Democratic incumbents and challengers at all levels of the electoral process.”</em></p>
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<p>Who is she married to?</p>
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		<title>By: melfeasance</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/08/book-salon-andrew-cockburn-on-rumsfeld/#comment-611386</link>
		<dc:creator>melfeasance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 01:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One more thing. If you didn’t see this movie when it was in the theatres, you might want to rent it. Excellent documentary on Robert McNamara.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sonyclassics.com/fogofwar/&quot;&gt;The Fog of War&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing. If you didn’t see this movie when it was in the theatres, you might want to rent it. Excellent documentary on Robert McNamara.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sonyclassics.com/fogofwar/">The Fog of War</a></p>
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		<title>By: melfeasance</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/08/book-salon-andrew-cockburn-on-rumsfeld/#comment-611363</link>
		<dc:creator>melfeasance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 01:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Many thanks not only to Andrew Cockburn, but to FDL for this outstanding discussion.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Before I run upstairs to play catch up, I want to give montag (53) the link to what is still a good read (The Atlantic, March 2004) on the Rumsfeld/Cheney wargames.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0318-14.htm&quot;&gt;The Armageddon Plan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks not only to Andrew Cockburn, but to FDL for this outstanding discussion.</p>
<p>Before I run upstairs to play catch up, I want to give montag (53) the link to what is still a good read (The Atlantic, March 2004) on the Rumsfeld/Cheney wargames.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0318-14.htm">The Armageddon Plan</a></p>
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		<title>By: S.O.S. from MA</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/08/book-salon-andrew-cockburn-on-rumsfeld/#comment-611358</link>
		<dc:creator>S.O.S. from MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 01:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Tnx GSD :)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tnx GSD :)</p>
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		<title>By: juslin</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/08/book-salon-andrew-cockburn-on-rumsfeld/#comment-611308</link>
		<dc:creator>juslin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 00:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;what the hell IS america turning into?? detention camps - holding pens - WTF?!!!!!!! - when will this madness end and its been brought about by the corruptors running this goddamn regime in america.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what the hell IS america turning into?? detention camps &#8211; holding pens &#8211; WTF?!!!!!!! &#8211; when will this madness end and its been brought about by the corruptors running this goddamn regime in america.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Hamsher</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/08/book-salon-andrew-cockburn-on-rumsfeld/#comment-611282</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Hamsher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 00:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-611223&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Andrew Cockburn @&lt;br /&gt;
                186              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-611220&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;mrobinsong @ 181&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thank you Mr. Cockburn! This has been a wonderful salon.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You’re welcome.  Goodbye all.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Andrew&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks so much for being here today, Andrew.  We really apreciate the time and care you took to answer so many questions.  Many thanks.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-611223"><em>Andrew Cockburn @<br />
                186              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-611220"><em>mrobinsong @ 181</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Thank you Mr. Cockburn! This has been a wonderful salon.</p>
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<p>You’re welcome.  Goodbye all.</p>
<p>Andrew</p>
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<p>Thanks so much for being here today, Andrew.  We really apreciate the time and care you took to answer so many questions.  Many thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: GSD</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/08/book-salon-andrew-cockburn-on-rumsfeld/#comment-611281</link>
		<dc:creator>GSD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 00:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;SOS,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, chain-pulling.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-GSD&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SOS,</p>
<p>Yes, chain-pulling.</p>
<p>-GSD</p>
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		<title>By: kirk murphy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/08/book-salon-andrew-cockburn-on-rumsfeld/#comment-611273</link>
		<dc:creator>kirk murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 00:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;john in sacramento says&lt;br /&gt;
April 8th, 2007 at 4:58 pm&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hi Eureka,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Kincaid is right, I don’t know how many there are but there are detention centers&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can you say “Halliburton“?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Letter from Congressman Bill Hefner of North Carolina providing confirmation of the existence of the camps &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hi pups -&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The private Blackwater army really scares me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;…as does the network of domestic detention centers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Earlier today someone on the Lake mentioned Gov. Terminator wants California to contract with Pisswater mercenaties.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Does anyone have further info?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[The Terminator’s mercenary army would be quite the media hook….and a great target in the CA legislature]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>john in sacramento says<br />
April 8th, 2007 at 4:58 pm</p>
<p>Hi Eureka,</p>
<p>Kincaid is right, I don’t know how many there are but there are detention centers</p>
<p>Can you say “Halliburton“?</p>
<p>Letter from Congressman Bill Hefner of North Carolina providing confirmation of the existence of the camps </p>
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<p>Hi pups -</p>
<p>The private Blackwater army really scares me.</p>
<p>…as does the network of domestic detention centers.</p>
<p>Earlier today someone on the Lake mentioned Gov. Terminator wants California to contract with Pisswater mercenaties.</p>
<p>Does anyone have further info?</p>
<p>[The Terminator’s mercenary army would be quite the media hook….and a great target in the CA legislature]</p>
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