
(Adorable photo of some cowboys bellying up to the bar for a sarsparilla via Party of Seven.)
It seems that I. Lewis Libby's conviction on four felony counts has had some personal repercussions:
the D.C. Bar suspended Libby's law license Wednesday. The temporary suspension is a result of his conviction last month for perjury, false statements, and obstruction of justice. The suspension is effective until the Board of Professional Responsibility decides whether to boot Libby from the ranks of the legal field for good.Of course, Libby wasn't exactly a member in good standing before. The Bar suspended his law license in October 2006 for nonpayment of dues -- something he could have fixed by paying the approximately $180 annual fee.
Libby, a Columbia Law School grad who became a member of the D.C. Bar in 1978, was also suspended for nonpayment of dues in December 2001 and reinstated in November 2005.
What is it with Bush Administration officials and their failure to pay professional bar dues? Harriet Miers had a similar issue, as did one of the candidates nominated to replace John McKay (the ousted USAtty in Washington state). And nominees for Appeals Court positions. And on and on.
It is this continual flouting of the rules that irritates me to no end. I maintain my law license, even though I'm no longer practicing -- because you never know when you might need to switch back to an active status and pick up that trial practice where you left off. Something may tempt me out of my "recovering attorney" status, so I keep that option open. And I pay my annual dues to do so. My state bar association sends me a notice every year, and I pay my fee every year to maintain this status. It's quite simple: get the bill, write a check, mail the check with a stamp, and presto!
Every lawyer who maintains a license with any bar association has to do the same thing, in pretty much any jurisdiction across the nation. To not do so is sloppy -- and it is just that sort of lax attitude toward detail that has seeped into every nook and cranny of how the Bushies do business.
But, that is not always the case for folks who have dedicated their lives to public service. Most people who work in the public sector, that I know anway, do so because they believe in the job -- that it is important to have it done, and done well, for public safety, for the betterment of the community, and a myriad of other reasons. Not to enrich themselves as the primary objective, but to enrich the communities in which they are working. Reader moi sent me a great link to an interview with Patrick Collins, an outgoing AUSA in Patrick Fitzgerald's office in Chicago, and it sums up a bit of what I've been feeling as I've watched the downward spiral of dreck seep outward from the USAtty firings mess:
Private citizen Collins can now speak more freely than prosecutor Collins, and he is incensed that his friend US attorney Pat Fitzgerald could somehow be ranked by his higher-ups as mediocre."It bothers me to no end that a 35-year-old guy can evaluate Pat Fitzgerald and call him mediocre when he doesn't know the first thing about being a public servant," said Collins. "And when the attorney general came to tow[n] last week and was sitting next to Pat, had every opportunity to put his arm around Pat and say, this is one of the best guys I got -- he said nothing."
That anger and frustration over politics in the Department of Justice is shared by other prosecutors. Collins is now free to express it. Part of his new mission at Perkins Coie will be to set up much of the firm's pro-bono work, which may center around juvenile court matters, though that remains a work in progress -- as does a career.
In the above bit, Collins is talking about Pat Fitzgerald. (And do watch the video at the link above. It's good to get inflection and expression on this.) But he could be talking about any number of career prosecutors or law enforcement types around the country -- people who have put their time, their intellect, sometimes even their lives on the line to make their communities a safer, better place. Most of these folks want to do the right thing in terms of enforcing the law while balancing a commitment to the constitution, to civil liberties and to justice.
The Bush Administration's attempt to put a heavy thumb on the scales of justice that emphasizes political loyalty above all else perverts the system, and endangers our commitment to the rule of law. Political fealty and electoral mathematics are not, nor should they ever be, the primary considerations in prosecutorial decisions. And respect for the hard-earned wisdom of actually doing the work -- day in and day out, long hour after long hour, autopsy photo after autopsy photo, brief after brief after brief after argument after brief...the fact that these dedicated public servants were being judged by wet-behind-the-ears political loyalists who were interested solely in the Rule of Karl makes me beyond angry.
The lax attitude of the Bush Administration -- from the little things (like paying one's bar dues) to the bigger ones (like not betraying a covert CIA operative and following the rules as required by the SF-312) -- permeate every aspect of our nation's administrative functions. The problems in the Department of Justice are only one small piece of this puzzle. The glimpse that we got into potential politicization of the GSA is yet another piece. And I ask myself how many more we will find as the sunlight of oversight seeps in to all the dark, festering nooks and crannies, so long forgotten and ignored by the Rubber Stamp Republican Congress.
That Alberto Gonzales went along with this makes him nothing more than an empty suit rather than an officer of the court. For shame.
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Christy!
Drive by. Thanks MOM and FDL.
Christy!
congrats on the zed, Bil!
Christy says: “That Alberto Gonzales went along with this makes him nothing more than an empty suit rather than an officer of the court. For shame.”
Now, Christy. That’s an insult to the empty suits everywhere for all empty suits have more integrity than has been shown by BushCo and his minions.
That is, except for the empty suits hanging in Abu Gonzo’s closet.
Marcy, Christy, Jane, and everybody that Marcy mentioned,
I just finished Anatomy of Deciet. It was done very well. Thank you all very much.
how ’bout just plain ‘belly up’…
Can we impeach Gonzales now? Has an AG ever been impeached before?
Great post again, CHS, like the many you’ve done this week.
Yeah, the video tells the story.
That “speechless anger” pause @ the end of Pat Collins’ statement re: Gonzales/Fitzgerald definitely speaks volumes, doesn’t it?
This was sorta EPU downstairs, but I think Paulose is them fixing the facts to the policy now.
The policy of incompetence. As if they would know competence.
slightly OT from the immediate bar dues discussion, but libby-related: -i still don’t understand how his upcoming sentencing is now only potentially for 2-3 years; weren’t we originally looking at a possible 10-30 years or something? does each guilty charge only carry a 6-month sentence limit or something? clue me in…
Christy, great catch!
By the way, the three management officials that bailed on Paulose aren’t the only folks in her office to undergo sudden career changes lately. As I note here:
- Andy Dunne no longer runs the office’s narcotics section because he refused to falsely play up a drug bust on her orders.
- Al Durand was the office administrator for twenty-six years, ever since Ronald Reagan’s first term as president. He took early retirement this February, right before Paulose’s investiture.
- Tim Anderson, a human services officer who had agreed to serve as Durand’s replacement until the job was filled, had apparently asked on Thursday not to be considered as a candidate for Durand’s job.
Also, KSTP-TV reported the following: “Sources said Paulose’s style of management has already sent several other attorney’s out the door from an office historically viewed as one of the more stable in the country.”
Bear in mind that the Minneapolis US Attorney’s office, for all but eight of the past twenty-six years, has been controlled by Republican appointees who have hired like-minded people to fill the jobs therein, especially the top jobs. This whole scandal is not the result of Democrats being disgruntled. These people are mostly if not all Republicans, particularly in the uppermost levels of management.
My thoughts are that the legal profession needs to some house cleaning. And not just some pr tinkering. Top to bottom. And to seriously focus on what it is that lawyers must seek to do to make this a better nation. There are some mighty fine attorneys, to be sure, but this whole adversary system of ours is not built upon the notion of justice. By definition it can’t be.
Christy,
I’m confused about Monica Goodling. I’ve read today that she hadn’t taken or passed “a bar exam.” Is that supposed to be true? If so, was she working in a position at DOJ (also - there appear to be questions on whether she has resigned ALL DOJ or government positions) which normally requires an attorney? My understanding was that if you’ve graduated from law school, no matter how good your GPA, you’re not an “attorney” until admitted to a bar by passing an exam (and paying dues, uh, scoots, harriet, etc…). Could you help on this?
Christy says:
Indeed. I hold a CISSP certification, and I will likely keep it up to date even after I retire, for similar reasons. What slays me as much as the sneering disregard the Bush Administration shows for the rules is the pettiness of it. The fee for my recertification is under $200. The fee for Libby was $180.
For me the fee comes to a few hours’ work. For someone as wealthy as Libby the $180 fee can’t even be measured in minutes of “labor.” But these penne-ante politicos who can’t part with their professional licensing fees would be the first ones to stick it taxwise to middle-class workers like myself.
After a bit more than three months of an adversarial Congress these shabby neocons are starting to come apart at the seams. When their crookedness is completely unraveled their naked thuggery will be laid bare. I look forward to seeing them all outfitted in orange jumpsuits sometime in the future…
I second you at 16, Christy!!
Most attorneys observe the ethical standards of the profession.
Most American put country above party.
I see no evidence that the AG/Rove group does either of those.
cleter @
9
He’ll be gone before any wheels get rolling on that…
Ed*ard Teller @
15
I remember trying to find her in the Bar rolls and failing, and I had the same question…
jeffnar @
12
IANAL, but it probably has to do with the federal sentencing rules.
Ed*ard Teller @ 15
Emptywheel found out she’s a member in good standing of the VA Bar Assoc. That should indicate she’s taken the bar and passed.
I’m with Cleter @ 9.
IMPEACH THE IDIOT before he has a chance to resign.
We need to communicate the level of anger that is festering among honest citizens of this country.
Maybe it’ll wake up the rest of them to start “remembering” things.
Impeachment hearings on the matter of George Bush should begin, Speaker. Regardless of the ’super majority’ requirement.
Gonzales couldn’t say that to Fitzgerald because the Bushies don’t feel they “have” Fitzgerald. They “got” cronies, not independents.
Purgegate has become the tipping point.
Republican appointees who followed the rule of law were dumped or rated mediocre, the civil rights division was turned on its head, and 30 somethings only followed orders.
To the Barricades!
Christy:
In an administration of empty suits, witjh the emptiest at the top.
In honor of the decider among the suits, this from Jimmy Kimmel (c/o Bill in Portland Maine):
the sociopaths who run rampant in bushland by definition feel that RULES DON’T APPLY to them. thus their conitnued flouting of such little-people points as registering for licenses or, in the case of monica, not ever passing the bar.
and to anyone who suggests that this is increasingly ratcheting up into a class war — elites vs. the excluded — remind them: if it is one, it’s because THEY declared war on US, not the other way around.
Kiddo, I love ya, and I fully agree in sentiment, BUT it has to be investigate first, gather solid evidence, and hog tie them with an-sorry- unimpeachable case. THEN try their sorry asses, remove them from office and send them to the Hague. Whatever else we do we MUST NOT let them wriggle out of a less than airtight case!
Jim Clausen @
26
I think impeaching Gonzales would make Bush reflexively clutch him to his bosom and defend him to the death. Which would be good, because it would lay bare even more WH corruption.
toolpusher @
22
I don’t think you have to graduate from law school at all, just pass tghe bar.
Jacqrat @ 23
I mostly seem to come late to the party or I am reading/typing too slowly, so I get EPU’ed.
In a recent EPU, I wrote that, everytime I get a letter asking for money from organizations I did support in the past, I respond with one word:
IMPEACH!
I control the purse, you see, and I am the client here — the very angry client.
(There are, of course, exceptions, and I still support, for example, Moveon.org, and I have contributed to FDL and Blue America). But I feel strongly about:
IMPEACH!
We cannot allow this crew of thugs and facists to go unpunished. And it’s not just about the punishment, either, it’s about the precedent. Future thugs and facists (and there will be some) must know that our nation will not allow our government to be hijacked for the betterment of a few, and the detriment of many, and our constitution made mockery of. These assholes keep getting away with this crap because we keep letting them.
Jim Clausen @ 26
This is what’s causing so many wingnuts to writhe in pain: They can’t bring themselves to admit that Bush and his minions would do this to fellow Republicans. They just can’t, because it would mean that everything they thought they knew about Bush is wrong.
One of my friends knows a woman who is an Administrative Law Judge and a whirling wingnut of the first water. She’s been running around blaming “the liberals at FOX 9″ (yes, she thinks the local FOX affiliate is liberal!), Nancy Pelosi, and Congress in general — that is, when she’s not trying to say that USA firings happen all the time. It’d be funny if she wasn’t so scary (she’s a high-ranking NRA member); she’s starting to sound like John Wilkes Booth, apparently, in her desire to see Congress eliminated.
sorry, I meant Conyers, not Waxman. So many scandals, so confusing at times. We really do need some graphic genius to help us both sort it out and tie it together…
A supermajority is not the START point for impeachment. It’s the end point. There wasn’t a supermajority at the start of Nixon’s hearings. A legitimate impeachment process builds its case along the way. Butr you have to START the damned thing at some point.
It occurred to me that all these attorneys getting the shaft are and have been loyal Republicans all their adult lives. I wonder how they feel about Republicans now that they have been discarded like an old dish towel. Will they continue to register and vote for Republican or will they be changing their registration?
The Republican Party has become a travesty of a mockery of a sham.
As I have said before. I used to think I was smart. But I’m not. Why? Because I used to think Hillary Clinton was smart. She’s not smart either. She does three things in varying degrees of good. She makes speeches. She collects money. And she triangulates (takes no political risks). We have a lot of talent and good people in my party who would make a wonderful president and world leader. Exclusive of Senator Clinton.
The amount of Lysol needed to disinfect this mess is mind boggling. Between this and possible SCOTUS appointments, winning the White House in 2008 is imperative!
Ed*ard Teller @ 36
Ask Cassie. I bet she knows some whing-ding kid who could figure this all out and draw us geezers a lovely chart…
conniptionfit @ 29
;0)
conniptionfit @ 34
EXACTLY — witness the leftovers from the nixon/ford days (cheney, rumsfeld) and those from the reagan/bush iran-/contra days (abrams, bolton, negroponte, pointdexter — the list goes on).
the fact was not unnoted that folks who should have done time never even faced an indictment — see bush I’s pardon of weinberger et al.
this is the playbook they work from. break the law, feast like thieves, never face consequences.
it’s this chain that must be broken.
So…I guess Gonzales isn’t going to get to be the first Hispanic Supreme Court justice now. How sad for him.
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Just a quick driveby before I go on duty at the museum for our new Mother India! exhibit of paintings from the 20th Century and photographs from the 21st Century.
OT but wanted to share my former congress-critter Leon Panetta’s lame letter response to my letter rant about Bill O’Reilly & James Carville’s guest honors next month:
“Thank you for expressing your opinion regarding the Institute’s (as in Panetta) invitation to Bill O’Reilly and James Carville for the 2007 Panetta Lecture Series.
“I realize many people on the Monterey Peninsula disagree with Mr. O’Reilly’s views, but the PI is bipartisan and I believe that an open and spirited debate is crucial to the success of a healthy democracy. There is no one better to counter Mr. O’Reilly’s views than James Carville……blah blah blah.
“…It is vital for every public service organization to receive unsoliticed advice and I am pleased to hear from you…Sincerely….”
If you want to weigh in on this and let Leon Panetta know what you think here is his web site linky www.panettainstitute.org.
O’Reilly and Carville are scheduled to appear in May and ample time to give the former congressman and chief of staff to Bill Clinton’s your view of both O’Reilly and Carville squandering resources of the publicly supported Leon & Sylvia Panetta Institute for Public Policy.
Dare I hope our local outcry to cancel both these media whores message might inspire others to weign in across the country. Thanks to all you for considering giving ole Leon some 21st century tutorials on what we majority progressives expect from our hard won election and that does not include giving the O’Reilly’s and Carville’s nonsense nor any more free passes much less honorarians at the taxpayers expense.
Thanks all, especially my fellow CA firepups!
This got EPU this morning but I think it fits. What if we did a national poll asking the American people if the only way to end the war was to impeach bush and cheney would you support impeachment? Since about 70% of the American people favor ending the war my guess is that we get around 60% in support.
The DOJ is compromised, and will remain so . Good prosecutors who are small-r Republican and not Loyal Bushies will be second-guessed; defence lawyers will bring it up; judges and juries will be affected by it. I’d like to know how quickly this bleeds into voir dire.
It means that an incoming Democratic president would probably need to clean house. And of course, the usual suspects will cry foul. I’d suggest to Dem presidential candidates that it might be time to propose a de-politicising the US Attorney position, turning it into a senior career position. That might entail sacrificing some control on account of how the GOP abuses power, but it also inoculates the executive branch.
cleter @ 31
Exactly.
Their very inflexibility will be what brings them all down.
Look at what Grover Norquist said of the GOP’s base, their primary voters: For them, the issue isn’t Iraq or anything else, the issue is Bush and how loyal you are to him. If you aren’t down as backing Bush 200%, they want nothing to do with you.
That’s why McCain can posture all he wants with the helicopter gunships protecting him from above: It won’t do him any good, because even though his “straight talk” bullshit is just that, and even though any Republican who wants to win any election in ‘08 had best be putting some serious daylight between him/herself and Bush, the mere idea that McCain would pretend to be independent of Bush infuriates the wingnuts to no end.
npbrat- what I wouldn’t give to see Jane, Christy and Marcy take Carvills place. I’d make book that billos’ head would explode in a matter of minutes!
I want my party to get rid of the DLC on the grounds they are anti-democratic and are attempting to dictate the way I think and choose.
cleter @ 31
Not “lay(ing) bare even more WH corruption” is the only reason he is still there.
Upon further review I find I am wrong about the law school/bar deal.
The DLC strongly supported Bush on the attacking of Iraq and are strong supporters of corporate America. That’s called fascism in this house.
$180.00 is peanuts. I could see them putting it off if it were $1800.00 but $180.00? I think I pay close to that in ACS dues every year. What gives with these people? They just can’t be bothered?
I detect very little light shining between the Republican Party and Hillary Clinton on Middle East policy.
dmg @ 44
That’s why it is so gratifying and hope-renewing to watching Sen. Leahy and Schumer and Rep. Waxman and Conyers do such a painstaking job of getting their ducks in a row.
And, hopefully, we’ll see no pardons of the same villains in the future, or they will just come back and make ever more deadly assaults on what’s good and decent in this country.
IMPEACH!
njr @
25
Alberto Gonzales is a classic passive/aggressive personality. He is a small man. Plus, a sneak and a liar.
IIRC, O’Reilly speaks approvingly of physical violence against elected officials and judges for their official acts.
Why would Sec Panetta and his Institute soil their reputations with a formal invitation to a guest who celebrates assassination and violence against Federal officials?
newspaperbrat @ 47
Well, I’m sometimes late with my professional dues, but I’m a freakin’ impoverished grad student, not a guy whose boss’s boss is the President of the United States.
What is wrong with these people?
newspaperbrat @ 47
Well I may be a CA Firepup, but I don’t have issue with what Leon wrote and I don’t consider it lame as you do.
I’m not picking a fight with you but I really respect Leon and I would think the majority of us natives in Ca. also do.
Hey Christy.. The reason you always renew your legal status with the state is because you are smarter than Libby..I thought you knew that :)
ceo @
7
Thank you. Special thanks go to Safir Ahmed, who made it readable, and of course Jane, who made it happen.
fahrender @ 59
Alberto Gonzales is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life.
things come undone
Been waiting for you to show up in answer to your question of the other day. Subject, for all, is whether Paulson is the canary in the W admin mine, i.e., being one of the few grownups, if he leaves will it be a signal that the admin is rapidly crumbling.
Two items in support of the hypothesis. My friend whose experience with Goldman Sachs is more recent than mine concurs with my thoughts, and points out that one of Paulson’s deep interests is the environment. Thus how W reacts to this week’s SCOTUS decisions may be important.
Second I came across this post:
http://www.belgraviadispatch.c.....g_the.html
It keys off a FT article arguing that a “Gang of Three” (Bob Gates, Condi Rice, and Hank Paulson) are trying to put the W admin on a more responsible course, with an opinionistic tilt that they’ll succeed. Belgraviadispatch begs to differ, mainly because Rice is so weak. But no one seems to disagree that Paulson is one of the few in the ’solid citizen’ category (as opposed to ‘flake’, one of my favorite human race binaries), and as such should be watched.
I’ve been thinking about the habit to let Bar dues lapse, too, of late.
I wonder whether it’s done out of a belief that the ABA is a threatening concentration of reality-based thinkers? Not to mention a bunch of democrats.
Is Gonzales the Worst Attorney General Ever? ‘Cause that would be awesome if we had the Worst President Ever and Worst Attorney General Ever at the same time!
What a confluence of fuckery!
cleter @ 67
John Mitchell
lest we forget
Someone really needs to expand their circle of
ghoulsfriendsallan_in_upstate @ 64
dear me, is there anything i can do to help?
While you all are ragging on Gonzo, I’ll add that he’s a no-necker. Remember Cat of a Hot Tin Roof?
Jacqrat @
23
Can someone be impeached AFTER they resign? Or is it then arresting them?
OFF TOPIC —- anyone here a good editor that can help me please with a post I am struggling with for my blog?
Gonzales is better than John Mitchell? Really? Are you sure?
If I recall correctly, John Mitchell personally gave the go-ahead to troops to fire on students at Kent State.
cleter @ 73
I think this guy is stupid, John Mitchell was a vile, calculating scumbag motherfucker.
cleter @
45
Bush would still appoint him in a recess appointment. He won’t care.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 74
Ohio Governor James A. Rhodes personally appears on campus and promises to use “every force possible” to maintain order. Rhodes denounces the protesters as worse than brownshirts and vows to keep the Guard in Kent “until we get rid of them.”
[Modnote: please close quotes with [/blockquote] thanks ]
cleter @ 73
Uh…when cleaning the cat box, I try not to think about which turd is the nastiest.
Cassie @ 76
Cassie, I believe that’s one of the few areas where he can’t use a recess apointment.
kirk murphy @ 78
But Gonzo doesn’t have a Martha
eCAHNomics @
71
I’ll check on that, but I do remember Marcy saying Addington had no neck… does law school dissolve upper vertebrae (in suseptible people)?
hmmm…
I’d include EdwinMeeseIII in a lineup w/Mitchell and Gonzo.
Play 3-card Monte to decide.
cleter @ 73
that’s a really difficult comparison to make what with martha and all. alberto is certainly more incompetent than john was. it’s hard to tell if alberto is more evil, more stupid, yes!
i guess the best way to put it is:
Alberto is to John as Fuckwad is to Tricky Dick.
sorry, that’s the best i can do …….
raven @ 68
The Bush administration’s idea of Easter?
AP - U.S. warplanes attacked suspected militiamen wielding shoulder-fired rockets Saturday in the second day of fierce fighting against Shiite gunmen south of Baghdad, U.S. and Iraqi officials and witnesses said.
fahrender @ 83
Pretty good if ya axe me!
afternoon fellow pups - its cold here in no jersey - i missed chat with rep nadler - it was changed i saw too late so now im reading th comments and lurking til i finish reading - yeah im a slow reader - back after i finish :>)
Cassie @ 72
Rep. Nadler had an answer this morning:
cleter @ 73
Oh god..
How many hundreds of thousands of FBI files were created because of War protesters during ‘Nam’? go to google.. list every Nixon WH staffers that ended up in Jail.
Print it out..
Whatda think of johnny now :)
1,479 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen oklahoma kiddo and the Firepup Patriots:
First of all, with regard to yer comment about needin’ ta clean up or retool the legal profession: it seems to me that our society has a systemic problem in ALL professional fields except teaching that require state licensure and regulation and that problem is capitalism. As long as the money is in representing money and the states professionals are over-worked, understaffed and evaluated by their conviction rates, there is a built-in bias toward corruption and the preying upon the poor and disenfranchised.
I don’t think that we can legislate or regulate this bias away…the profession must enfranchise the least of it’s members, those who don’t make upper half six figures, in its professional organisations like the ABA (after all there are more economically challenged lawyers than millionaires). I guess what I am sayin’ is that in a capitalist society, any social-economic problem can be best solved by an increase in democracy.
Look at any problem of corruption we are dealin’ with right now in the battle against this fascist junta and you will find a corruption of democracy either in voting rights or civil rights somewhere in the chain of decay.
KEEP THE FAITH AND DON’T GIVE ‘EM ANYTHING BACK!!!
raven (#80):
jinx! (me: #83)
OT: The following is mostly from Atrios , and what it show is that America’s two major newspapers of record, the New York Times and the Washington Post, deliberately spread anti-Iran propaganda.
On 2/20/07, the NYT carried a front-page story claiming:
But that story had already been discredited three days earlier in a 2/17/07 LA Times op-ed by Alexander Cockburn: http://www.latimes.com/news/op.....ion-center
And, today, Reuters has an article that containing further refutation of the claim that Iraqi EFPs are coming from Iran:
http://in.today.reuters.com/ne.....3355-4.xml
The Washington Post’s original version of that story, captured by Google News, contained that same paragraph, which was later
replaced by the same old anti-Iran propaganda:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....00397.html
BTW, this nation’s third newspaper of record, the LA Times, has now been bought by Sam Zell, whose political patronage the Wikipedia describes as follows: “According to an analysis of Federal Election Commission records by the Center for Public Integrity, ‘Zell has given more than $100,000 in political contributions since the 1998 election cycle, most of it supporting Republican causes.’ He is also believed to be a strong supporter of Israel[citation needed] as well as a major contributor to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC).”
allan_in_upstate @ 64
Hi Allan, I was reading that very thing in Newsweek, I think it was, this week. That the people who know Gonzales describe him as very gentle and humble. I strongly desire not to demonize people.
Since you know him, can you offer some insight into how he was able to descibe the Geneva Convention rules as “quaint?” I ask this without any sarcasm whatsoever. I genuinely want to understand.
NorskeFlamethrower @ 89