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		<title>By: Cassandra</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/05/talking-turkey/#comment-606614</link>
		<dc:creator>Cassandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 03:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, he’s a rat jumping ship.  I’m as forgiving as the next person, but I don’t detect true remorse here—only damage control.  “Restoring balance” just means putting on a nice smiley face to reassure customers that the package of poisoned meat was a fluke and the store really has their best interests at heart.  He has realized Bush is an irredeemable dud and he wants to distance himself so he can survive to be a valuable toady to some future Pax Americana.  God help us if Bush had been as smart as his brother Jeb.  It was George’s many blunders which helped expose him for what he is.  If he’d been really smooth and effective, he could have kept most Americans in the dark while the trap was being laid.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What Dowd and Rove were trying to build here failed this time, but no one should be fooled as to how near we came to disaster—a one-party fascist rule, employing all the dazzling powers of modern technology,  weaponry and communications to bring the entire globe to its knees—including us.  I’m quite sure that what Bush’s boys had planned for us was not in line with Jesus’ teachings, but Machiavelli’s.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The plan is still there.  The technology is still there.  Bush has already made great strides in undermining Constitutional protections and empowering those who plot against us.  Disappointed but undeterred, the neocons will lie in wait for their next opportunity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mission work!  Haha, that’s rich.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, he’s a rat jumping ship.  I’m as forgiving as the next person, but I don’t detect true remorse here—only damage control.  “Restoring balance” just means putting on a nice smiley face to reassure customers that the package of poisoned meat was a fluke and the store really has their best interests at heart.  He has realized Bush is an irredeemable dud and he wants to distance himself so he can survive to be a valuable toady to some future Pax Americana.  God help us if Bush had been as smart as his brother Jeb.  It was George’s many blunders which helped expose him for what he is.  If he’d been really smooth and effective, he could have kept most Americans in the dark while the trap was being laid.</p>
<p>What Dowd and Rove were trying to build here failed this time, but no one should be fooled as to how near we came to disaster—a one-party fascist rule, employing all the dazzling powers of modern technology,  weaponry and communications to bring the entire globe to its knees—including us.  I’m quite sure that what Bush’s boys had planned for us was not in line with Jesus’ teachings, but Machiavelli’s.</p>
<p>The plan is still there.  The technology is still there.  Bush has already made great strides in undermining Constitutional protections and empowering those who plot against us.  Disappointed but undeterred, the neocons will lie in wait for their next opportunity.</p>
<p>Mission work!  Haha, that’s rich.</p>
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		<title>By: redX</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/05/talking-turkey/#comment-605950</link>
		<dc:creator>redX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 20:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;He has not intention to “atone”, he want to continue to make money. Unless he does “atone” he is nothing more than a rat fleeing a sinking ship.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He has not intention to “atone”, he want to continue to make money. Unless he does “atone” he is nothing more than a rat fleeing a sinking ship.</p>
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		<title>By: Maddy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/05/talking-turkey/#comment-605835</link>
		<dc:creator>Maddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 18:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Killing and eviscerating a population as a strategy  to insure political prevalence? How disgusting. My dream is to wake one day to hear that the wicked witch’s of the west had water thrown on them and they all melted. My chagrin at the apparent permission to continue this madness is beyond anything I can describe in the words of the english language.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Killing and eviscerating a population as a strategy  to insure political prevalence? How disgusting. My dream is to wake one day to hear that the wicked witch’s of the west had water thrown on them and they all melted. My chagrin at the apparent permission to continue this madness is beyond anything I can describe in the words of the english language.</p>
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		<title>By: notaboomer</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/05/talking-turkey/#comment-605831</link>
		<dc:creator>notaboomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 18:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is MaDo any relation to MoDo? Both are definite dodos. It is nice to see that Matt has been able to move his services from poisonous pols like Shrub to such enlightened 21st Century Pioneers as Michigan gubernatorial candidate DeVos. Idiot Wind every time he moves his lips.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is MaDo any relation to MoDo? Both are definite dodos. It is nice to see that Matt has been able to move his services from poisonous pols like Shrub to such enlightened 21st Century Pioneers as Michigan gubernatorial candidate DeVos. Idiot Wind every time he moves his lips.</p>
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		<title>By: john in california</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/05/talking-turkey/#comment-605750</link>
		<dc:creator>john in california</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 17:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I will believe he is contrite when he opens his personal books, shows the world every cent he has made since latching onto team tinpot, every special deal, inside investment, payolla to relatives, etc. and then writes three checks equal to all of it, every cent (even if he has to sell his mcmansion). One to an antiwar group, one to any group dedicated to helping the Iraqi wounded and one to any group dedicated to helping our wounded vets.&lt;br /&gt;
Then hecan go find a nice little cave in the Iraqi desert to play Anchorite if he feels that’ll salve his conscience .&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will believe he is contrite when he opens his personal books, shows the world every cent he has made since latching onto team tinpot, every special deal, inside investment, payolla to relatives, etc. and then writes three checks equal to all of it, every cent (even if he has to sell his mcmansion). One to an antiwar group, one to any group dedicated to helping the Iraqi wounded and one to any group dedicated to helping our wounded vets.<br />
Then hecan go find a nice little cave in the Iraqi desert to play Anchorite if he feels that’ll salve his conscience .</p>
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		<title>By: landofthefree</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/05/talking-turkey/#comment-605723</link>
		<dc:creator>landofthefree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 16:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-605605&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Helpless Dancer @ 70&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-605569&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;landofthefree @&lt;br /&gt;
                45              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Outstanding post.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If he wants to criticize the President, Rove, and the Republicans, he can do that - good for him. But I wouldn’t trust his loyalty to justice and fairness for a moment.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One part of Blumenthal’s article really surprised me. I didn’t realize that the reason they dropped “uniter, not a dividier” and “compassionate conservative” rhetoric was because the poll results didn’t support it. I figured they just used that to gain a little trust and get some votes, but they had no desire to actually operate in a bipartisan, compassionate manner. Bush certainly has been the most divisive President in my lifetime. His “you’re with us or against us” attitude permeates every policy and action of his Presidency.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;God, as if that hasn’t been obvious since ‘94&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s my point - that his rhetoric was just a campaigning tool, and he had no plan of actually being “a uniter”. That’s how I always viewed him. I was surprised that Blumenthal’s article indicated that they changed this strategy because the polling indicated it wasn’t helping him after the election. I figured this act did give him some votes and support among people who hadn’t been paying attention to Bush’s actions for years prior to 2004.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-605605"><em>Helpless Dancer @ 70</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-605569"><em>landofthefree @<br />
                45              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Outstanding post.</p>
<p>If he wants to criticize the President, Rove, and the Republicans, he can do that &#8211; good for him. But I wouldn’t trust his loyalty to justice and fairness for a moment.</p>
<p>One part of Blumenthal’s article really surprised me. I didn’t realize that the reason they dropped “uniter, not a dividier” and “compassionate conservative” rhetoric was because the poll results didn’t support it. I figured they just used that to gain a little trust and get some votes, but they had no desire to actually operate in a bipartisan, compassionate manner. Bush certainly has been the most divisive President in my lifetime. His “you’re with us or against us” attitude permeates every policy and action of his Presidency.</p>
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<p>God, as if that hasn’t been obvious since ‘94</p>
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<p>That’s my point &#8211; that his rhetoric was just a campaigning tool, and he had no plan of actually being “a uniter”. That’s how I always viewed him. I was surprised that Blumenthal’s article indicated that they changed this strategy because the polling indicated it wasn’t helping him after the election. I figured this act did give him some votes and support among people who hadn’t been paying attention to Bush’s actions for years prior to 2004.</p>
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		<title>By: NickOdemus</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/05/talking-turkey/#comment-605714</link>
		<dc:creator>NickOdemus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 16:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh wow, crisis of conscience, finding his way back, blah, blah, blah. Same old shit, different package, different day. He should talk to Richard Cohen over at WAPO, Ricky’s having a crisis of his own.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The jig is up, the orchestra is packing up and the trials and tribulations are about to begin. Hubris, schadenfreude, whatever you want to call it, it does come around, doesn’t it? Ahhhhh, the smell of justice in the morning… like napalm to the neocon soul. Blissssssss!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh wow, crisis of conscience, finding his way back, blah, blah, blah. Same old shit, different package, different day. He should talk to Richard Cohen over at WAPO, Ricky’s having a crisis of his own.</p>
<p>The jig is up, the orchestra is packing up and the trials and tribulations are about to begin. Hubris, schadenfreude, whatever you want to call it, it does come around, doesn’t it? Ahhhhh, the smell of justice in the morning… like napalm to the neocon soul. Blissssssss!</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/05/talking-turkey/#comment-605685</link>
		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 16:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-605554&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;mc @&lt;br /&gt;
                34              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;“As Dowd acts out his spiritual crisis, he maintains his silence about what he knows, a strange kind of post-betrayal omert�. It’s more than a little late for the turncoat to continue playing the loyalist, wanting it both ways…”&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think we can only assume he &lt;em&gt;still &lt;/em&gt;works for Rove.  Once a snake, always a snake (apologies to real snakes which, in the natural world, work to keep the rodent population down).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;True.  Like Hotel California, there are some jobs one can never leave.  (We all have our own candidates: Mossad, NSA, Chinese general staff.)  Dowd would be toast if he left - for the same reason J. Edgar couldn’t afford to retire and leave behind his FBI files - unless he turned state’s evidence and went into witness protection.  So far, Mr. Dowd shows no signs of leaving home until after sunset.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Perhaps, like Ms. Goodling, he’s still on the payroll, softening up Shrub’s image.  That’s what I would assume, until he publishes a legitimate Tell All Tale.  Now, that would put him in reasonable fear of retribution from men who know no hesitation.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-605554"><em>mc @<br />
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<blockquote><p><em>“As Dowd acts out his spiritual crisis, he maintains his silence about what he knows, a strange kind of post-betrayal omert�. It’s more than a little late for the turncoat to continue playing the loyalist, wanting it both ways…”</em></p>
<p>I think we can only assume he <em>still </em>works for Rove.  Once a snake, always a snake (apologies to real snakes which, in the natural world, work to keep the rodent population down).</p>
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<p>True.  Like Hotel California, there are some jobs one can never leave.  (We all have our own candidates: Mossad, NSA, Chinese general staff.)  Dowd would be toast if he left &#8211; for the same reason J. Edgar couldn’t afford to retire and leave behind his FBI files &#8211; unless he turned state’s evidence and went into witness protection.  So far, Mr. Dowd shows no signs of leaving home until after sunset.  </p>
<p>Perhaps, like Ms. Goodling, he’s still on the payroll, softening up Shrub’s image.  That’s what I would assume, until he publishes a legitimate Tell All Tale.  Now, that would put him in reasonable fear of retribution from men who know no hesitation.</p>
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		<title>By: Liberty Lover</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/05/talking-turkey/#comment-605661</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberty Lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 15:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Perhaps Dowd’s crisis of conscience comes as his own relative is placed in harm’s way in this illegal war of choice. But the irony is that if his child is harmed in this war, it will be a direct result of Dowd helping to reelect the very President that has no respect for anyone that he’s sending into the war. Too bad that Dowd did not come to this realization before 3500 other people’s children were slaughtered. Big Picture, Mr. Dowd. Try to learn from your mistakes, eh?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps Dowd’s crisis of conscience comes as his own relative is placed in harm’s way in this illegal war of choice. But the irony is that if his child is harmed in this war, it will be a direct result of Dowd helping to reelect the very President that has no respect for anyone that he’s sending into the war. Too bad that Dowd did not come to this realization before 3500 other people’s children were slaughtered. Big Picture, Mr. Dowd. Try to learn from your mistakes, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: eyesonthestreet</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/05/talking-turkey/#comment-605653</link>
		<dc:creator>eyesonthestreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 15:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am trying to put together what i read above and what i read earlier on: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.politicalcortex.com/story/2007/3/25/142120/013&quot;&gt;http://www.politicalcortex.com.....142120/013&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;where the author, Bill Hare, talks about the&lt;br /&gt;
“Project for the New American Century guidelines” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It seems that Dowd and Rove where the facilitators, but not really the minds, behind Bushco.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I keep getting the sinking feeling that I am blindsided by all the minions and never see who is really behind all of this.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am trying to put together what i read above and what i read earlier on: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.politicalcortex.com/story/2007/3/25/142120/013">http://www.politicalcortex.com&#8230;..142120/013</a></p>
<p>where the author, Bill Hare, talks about the<br />
“Project for the New American Century guidelines” </p>
<p>It seems that Dowd and Rove where the facilitators, but not really the minds, behind Bushco.  </p>
<p>I keep getting the sinking feeling that I am blindsided by all the minions and never see who is really behind all of this.</p>
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