Comments on: The Experiment http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/the-experiment/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 05:30:38 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: shep http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/the-experiment/#comment-603598 shep Wed, 04 Apr 2007 16:04:35 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/the-experiment/#comment-603598 <p>Three words:</p> <p>Rule. Of. Law.</p> Three words:

Rule. Of. Law.

]]> By: Mandrake http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/the-experiment/#comment-603557 Mandrake Wed, 04 Apr 2007 15:48:22 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/the-experiment/#comment-603557 <p><a href="#comment-602809"><em>Oklahoma kiddo @ 28 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>The GOP has become sordid, tawdry, self-focused, greedy, corrupt and fascistic. I don’t know what else to say. I cannot find a single redeeming example in the Republican Party. And yet, the GOP politicians and rank and file Republicans love George Bush.</p></blockquote> <p>I couldn’t agree more. They have done next to nothing to convince us otherwise. However, take comfort, friend. The wheels are coming off.</p> Oklahoma kiddo @ 28

The GOP has become sordid, tawdry, self-focused, greedy, corrupt and fascistic. I don’t know what else to say. I cannot find a single redeeming example in the Republican Party. And yet, the GOP politicians and rank and file Republicans love George Bush.

I couldn’t agree more. They have done next to nothing to convince us otherwise. However, take comfort, friend. The wheels are coming off.

]]> By: Buddy McCue http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/the-experiment/#comment-603506 Buddy McCue Wed, 04 Apr 2007 14:59:33 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/the-experiment/#comment-603506 <p>When the Republicans use the “bad apple” metaphor, they seem to be unaware of the entire saying. Doesn’t it go, “One bad apple spoils the bunch?”</p> When the Republicans use the “bad apple” metaphor, they seem to be unaware of the entire saying. Doesn’t it go, “One bad apple spoils the bunch?”

]]> By: Shell http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/the-experiment/#comment-603351 Shell Wed, 04 Apr 2007 13:03:56 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/the-experiment/#comment-603351 <p>egregious –</p> <p>No, that’s not the core of what I was talking about. Yes, I recall “the C word” deal. And I realize I disagree with most Americans on that. (Likewise, I don’t understand why rape victims have to hide. Remember how silly the William Kennedy Smith rape trial was? The face blotted out? BEING raped is not shameful — rapING is.) And yes, I have been raped — when I was 6 years old. </p> <p>I am used to being ahead of the mainstream.</p> <p>But the person who answered me (sorry, I forget her name) missed the point. That’s what I am saying.</p> egregious –

No, that’s not the core of what I was talking about. Yes, I recall “the C word” deal. And I realize I disagree with most Americans on that. (Likewise, I don’t understand why rape victims have to hide. Remember how silly the William Kennedy Smith rape trial was? The face blotted out? BEING raped is not shameful — rapING is.) And yes, I have been raped — when I was 6 years old.

I am used to being ahead of the mainstream.

But the person who answered me (sorry, I forget her name) missed the point. That’s what I am saying.

]]> By: egregious http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/the-experiment/#comment-603306 egregious Wed, 04 Apr 2007 12:08:08 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/the-experiment/#comment-603306 <p>Shell—</p> <p>If I recall that conversation correctly, you are free to call Ann A anything you want.</p> <p>However at FDL the C word is considered too violent, it is what drunken men scream at their wives while beating the living daylights out of them. Some people here are still hurting from that. </p> <p>You can call it group think, I would call it community standards.</p> Shell—

If I recall that conversation correctly, you are free to call Ann A anything you want.

However at FDL the C word is considered too violent, it is what drunken men scream at their wives while beating the living daylights out of them. Some people here are still hurting from that.

You can call it group think, I would call it community standards.

]]> By: Bluetoe http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/the-experiment/#comment-603304 Bluetoe Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:50:59 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/the-experiment/#comment-603304 <p>“I admit that I’m going out on a limb with the decent-Republicans claim, but I do know several Republicans who are very nice, so it should theoretically be possible.”</p> <p>Interesting to see all the references to the “Rise and Fall of the 3rd Reich” etc. Those who enabled the Nazi’s or carried out their orders, where often described as good and decent people who loved their families, pets and were considered “good” friends and neighbors. It’s what is called the “banality of evil”. The Republican Party has more than it’s share. The court proceedings of the Nuremburg trials makes for reading that is still relavent today.</p> “I admit that I’m going out on a limb with the decent-Republicans claim, but I do know several Republicans who are very nice, so it should theoretically be possible.”

Interesting to see all the references to the “Rise and Fall of the 3rd Reich” etc. Those who enabled the Nazi’s or carried out their orders, where often described as good and decent people who loved their families, pets and were considered “good” friends and neighbors. It’s what is called the “banality of evil”. The Republican Party has more than it’s share. The court proceedings of the Nuremburg trials makes for reading that is still relavent today.

]]> By: Shell http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/the-experiment/#comment-603300 Shell Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:35:21 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/the-experiment/#comment-603300 <p>I ordered this book and am eagerly awaiting its arrival. Yes, I remember this experiment talked about in Psych/Soc classes in college. But more recently, all of you have seen this. First example, AOL. I used to be an AOL junkie. It was mostly “the lefties” vs “the righties.” But the past 2 years, it got very bizarre. Exactly like what this author says. (And I have noticed it on blogs, too.) You get a core group of online friends, the in-crowd, who tend to talk down everyone who doesn’t agree. No, I am not talking about Eli, or Jane, or Christy, or Pach, or God forbid, TRex! I am talking about the “in crowd” of people who always post in the comments. Just this week, I said something and one regular hinted that I was “dissing” the owners. I wasn’t even talking about them. This is Group Think.</p> I ordered this book and am eagerly awaiting its arrival. Yes, I remember this experiment talked about in Psych/Soc classes in college. But more recently, all of you have seen this. First example, AOL. I used to be an AOL junkie. It was mostly “the lefties” vs “the righties.” But the past 2 years, it got very bizarre. Exactly like what this author says. (And I have noticed it on blogs, too.) You get a core group of online friends, the in-crowd, who tend to talk down everyone who doesn’t agree. No, I am not talking about Eli, or Jane, or Christy, or Pach, or God forbid, TRex! I am talking about the “in crowd” of people who always post in the comments. Just this week, I said something and one regular hinted that I was “dissing” the owners. I wasn’t even talking about them. This is Group Think.

]]> By: kirk murphy http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/the-experiment/#comment-603151 kirk murphy Wed, 04 Apr 2007 04:46:39 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/the-experiment/#comment-603151 <p>Wow Eli! I hadn’t. Thanks for the linkie!</p> Wow Eli! I hadn’t. Thanks for the linkie!

]]> By: Eli http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/the-experiment/#comment-603147 Eli Wed, 04 Apr 2007 04:40:59 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/the-experiment/#comment-603147 <p><a href="#comment-603144"><em>ifthethunderdontgetya @ 187</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>That doesn’t mean it’s easy, I have some friends I have known all my life, I’ve been to the wedding, kids’ baptisms…”Don’t you dare criticize President Bush in my house, at my dinner table!!!111eleven!!!”</p></blockquote> <p>I remember about 20 years ago, this couple who were my dad and stepmom’s best friends - one of them said something about AIDS being God’s punishment on the gays. And I never saw them again. Dad and Stepmom cut them off cold.</p> <p>(I should probably also mention that the godfather of one of my little sisters died of AIDS…)</p> ifthethunderdontgetya @ 187

That doesn’t mean it’s easy, I have some friends I have known all my life, I’ve been to the wedding, kids’ baptisms…”Don’t you dare criticize President Bush in my house, at my dinner table!!!111eleven!!!”

I remember about 20 years ago, this couple who were my dad and stepmom’s best friends – one of them said something about AIDS being God’s punishment on the gays. And I never saw them again. Dad and Stepmom cut them off cold.

(I should probably also mention that the godfather of one of my little sisters died of AIDS…)

]]> By: ifthethunderdontgetya http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/the-experiment/#comment-603144 ifthethunderdontgetya Wed, 04 Apr 2007 04:36:06 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/the-experiment/#comment-603144 <p>Kirk, my answer is at post 79.</p> <p>You don’t condone torture. You don’t sanction war because it seems like a jolly good time. And you don’t let “Godwin’s Law” stop you from calling out a political party that decides to behave like Nazis.</p> <p>That doesn’t mean it’s easy, I have some friends I have known all my life, I’ve been to the wedding, kids’ baptisms…”Don’t you dare criticize President Bush in my house, at my dinner table!!!111eleven!!!”</p> <p>(I was just agreeing with the kids, by the way.)</p> <p>It’s hard work!</p> Kirk, my answer is at post 79.

You don’t condone torture. You don’t sanction war because it seems like a jolly good time. And you don’t let “Godwin’s Law” stop you from calling out a political party that decides to behave like Nazis.

That doesn’t mean it’s easy, I have some friends I have known all my life, I’ve been to the wedding, kids’ baptisms…”Don’t you dare criticize President Bush in my house, at my dinner table!!!111eleven!!!”

(I was just agreeing with the kids, by the way.)

It’s hard work!

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