Comments on: Some Might Call It “Rapture” http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/some-might-call-it-rapture/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:47:40 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Ruthie http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/some-might-call-it-rapture/#comment-603252 Ruthie Wed, 04 Apr 2007 06:17:02 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/some-might-call-it-rapture/#comment-603252 <p><a href="#comment-602649"><em>dmac @<br /> 119 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>angie at 42<br /> followed the link<br /> daryl kagen and rush limpass<br /> i’m speechless. … </p></blockquote> <p>Good ol’ Daryl–the “Calista Flockhart of Wingnuttia!”</p> dmac @
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angie at 42
followed the link
daryl kagen and rush limpass
i’m speechless. …

Good ol’ Daryl–the “Calista Flockhart of Wingnuttia!”

]]> By: Dr Zen http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/some-might-call-it-rapture/#comment-602929 Dr Zen Wed, 04 Apr 2007 02:34:23 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/some-might-call-it-rapture/#comment-602929 <p>This is how they create reality though. They just keep saying it over and over. It doesn’t matter that it’s not true. They’ll make it true. They understand that history is negotiated not recorded.</p> This is how they create reality though. They just keep saying it over and over. It doesn’t matter that it’s not true. They’ll make it true. They understand that history is negotiated not recorded.

]]> By: gate keeper http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/some-might-call-it-rapture/#comment-602764 gate keeper Wed, 04 Apr 2007 00:44:43 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/some-might-call-it-rapture/#comment-602764 <p>This is where the drug-addled gas bag got his info:<br /> <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17857501/page/3/">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17857501/page/3/</a><br /> SEN. HATCH: Pat, I didn’t interrupt you. Now, let me just tell you something. There is not one shred of evidence here that any of these appointments were made to, to use Senator Specter’s words, to, to, to interfere with an ongoing investigation or case. Not one shred of evidence. This is a tempest in a teapot and, and, and the president—everybody admits that the president—these people served at the pleasure of the president. What happened here is, the president’s goals and purposes were to go after immigration smuggling cases, gun cases, so they get tough on the misuse of guns, on pornography cases. And some of these people were not doing that. Now, where they got in problems is they, they said there were performance problems. What they meant, it seemed to me by the so-called word in performance, was that these people were not following up on these cases.</p> <p>Take Carol Lam, for instance. Carol Lam was raised on your program, Tim, by Schumer. Carol Lam, it’s amazing to me she wasn’t fired earlier because for three years members of the Congress had complained that there had been all kinds of border patrol capture of these people but hardly any prosecutions. <b>She was a former law professor, no prosecutorial experience, and the former campaign manager in Southern California for Clinton, and they’re trying to say that this administration appoints people politically? </b>Of course they do. That’s what these positions are. But politically they’ve appointed people who have been approved by the Justice Department—the Judiciary Committee, in most cases, who have served well, are strong people and, and, frankly, these, these seven were really mishandled.</p> This is where the drug-addled gas bag got his info:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17857501/page/3/
SEN. HATCH: Pat, I didn’t interrupt you. Now, let me just tell you something. There is not one shred of evidence here that any of these appointments were made to, to use Senator Specter’s words, to, to, to interfere with an ongoing investigation or case. Not one shred of evidence. This is a tempest in a teapot and, and, and the president—everybody admits that the president—these people served at the pleasure of the president. What happened here is, the president’s goals and purposes were to go after immigration smuggling cases, gun cases, so they get tough on the misuse of guns, on pornography cases. And some of these people were not doing that. Now, where they got in problems is they, they said there were performance problems. What they meant, it seemed to me by the so-called word in performance, was that these people were not following up on these cases.

Take Carol Lam, for instance. Carol Lam was raised on your program, Tim, by Schumer. Carol Lam, it’s amazing to me she wasn’t fired earlier because for three years members of the Congress had complained that there had been all kinds of border patrol capture of these people but hardly any prosecutions. She was a former law professor, no prosecutorial experience, and the former campaign manager in Southern California for Clinton, and they’re trying to say that this administration appoints people politically? Of course they do. That’s what these positions are. But politically they’ve appointed people who have been approved by the Justice Department—the Judiciary Committee, in most cases, who have served well, are strong people and, and, frankly, these, these seven were really mishandled.

]]> By: The Oracle http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/some-might-call-it-rapture/#comment-602759 The Oracle Wed, 04 Apr 2007 00:37:53 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/some-might-call-it-rapture/#comment-602759 <p>I’ve heard that Rush LimpPaw has ingested so much V*agra that he has a permanent stiff upper lip…er, or something.</p> <p>[* edited by Mod]</p> I’ve heard that Rush LimpPaw has ingested so much V*agra that he has a permanent stiff upper lip…er, or something.

[* edited by Mod]

]]> By: greenwarrior http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/some-might-call-it-rapture/#comment-602694 greenwarrior Tue, 03 Apr 2007 23:54:14 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/some-might-call-it-rapture/#comment-602694 <p><a href="#comment-602656"><em>NickOdemus @ 125 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Slightly off topic but scrumtious nonetheless: anyone notice Ricky Cohen’s WAPO slam of Gonzo as death penalty vulture. When Cohen hangs you out, you gotta know that the rats are parachuting off the leaky GOP scow and that Gonzo is truly tostado!</p></blockquote> <p>have you got a link?</p> NickOdemus @ 125

Slightly off topic but scrumtious nonetheless: anyone notice Ricky Cohen’s WAPO slam of Gonzo as death penalty vulture. When Cohen hangs you out, you gotta know that the rats are parachuting off the leaky GOP scow and that Gonzo is truly tostado!

have you got a link?

]]> By: greenwarrior http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/some-might-call-it-rapture/#comment-602688 greenwarrior Tue, 03 Apr 2007 23:50:17 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/some-might-call-it-rapture/#comment-602688 <p><a href="#comment-602653"><em>njr @ 123</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-602639"><em>Eureka Springs @ 109</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>On the News Hour, a clip of Bushie saying, they ought to get the bill to my desk, so I can veto it..blah blah..</p> <p>Am I to understand they are holding the bill and running down the clock? If so, wtg Dems!</p></blockquote> <p>not intentional, the House and Senate versions need to be reconciled… but maybe a good idea…</p> <p>to proceed with great caution, you know…</p></blockquote> <p>and some of them, the democrats anyway, disobediently went to syria.</p> njr @ 123

Eureka Springs @ 109

On the News Hour, a clip of Bushie saying, they ought to get the bill to my desk, so I can veto it..blah blah..

Am I to understand they are holding the bill and running down the clock? If so, wtg Dems!

not intentional, the House and Senate versions need to be reconciled… but maybe a good idea…

to proceed with great caution, you know…

and some of them, the democrats anyway, disobediently went to syria.

]]> By: Starbuck http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/some-might-call-it-rapture/#comment-602684 Starbuck Tue, 03 Apr 2007 23:48:54 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/some-might-call-it-rapture/#comment-602684 <p>An examination of the nature of “Fact” is in order.</p> <p>A fact is that which I believe to be true.</p> <p>However:</p> <p>Not everything I believe is indeed a fact!</p> <p>Subtle, and true. Case:</p> <p>The Sun rises revolves around the earth. A fact until it was proven otherwise. It was rejected by the ruling party, the Church. </p> <p>Locality. It was a cherished physical belief, a fact until it went up against quantum physics…and lost.</p> <p>The upshot of all this is fact is bandied about like some sort of absolute, especially by the right. It isn’t absolute. Very few facts are unassailable.</p> <p>Most of what is considered fact is rather verisimilitude, “the state or quality of something that exhibits the appearance of truth or reality.”<br /> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verisimilitude">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verisimilitude</a></p> <p>Oops! There’s that wicked Wikipedia!</p> <p>Here’s an essay about one Karl Popper, who searched for truth telling:<br /> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Popper">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Popper</a></p> An examination of the nature of “Fact” is in order.

A fact is that which I believe to be true.

However:

Not everything I believe is indeed a fact!

Subtle, and true. Case:

The Sun rises revolves around the earth. A fact until it was proven otherwise. It was rejected by the ruling party, the Church.

Locality. It was a cherished physical belief, a fact until it went up against quantum physics…and lost.

The upshot of all this is fact is bandied about like some sort of absolute, especially by the right. It isn’t absolute. Very few facts are unassailable.

Most of what is considered fact is rather verisimilitude, “the state or quality of something that exhibits the appearance of truth or reality.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verisimilitude

Oops! There’s that wicked Wikipedia!

Here’s an essay about one Karl Popper, who searched for truth telling:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Popper

]]> By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/some-might-call-it-rapture/#comment-602681 cinnamonape Tue, 03 Apr 2007 23:48:03 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/some-might-call-it-rapture/#comment-602681 <p>What’s really interesting is that Grey Davis thought Carol Lam was appropriate to appoint to the State Court position in spite of her contributing to Campbell’s Senatorial campaign.</p> <p>A real case of bipartisanship…something that we have never seen the Bush Administration practice.</p> What’s really interesting is that Grey Davis thought Carol Lam was appropriate to appoint to the State Court position in spite of her contributing to Campbell’s Senatorial campaign.

A real case of bipartisanship…something that we have never seen the Bush Administration practice.

]]> By: eCAHNomics http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/some-might-call-it-rapture/#comment-602665 eCAHNomics Tue, 03 Apr 2007 23:38:08 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/some-might-call-it-rapture/#comment-602665 <p><a href="#comment-602656"><em>NickOdemus @ 125</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Slightly off topic but scrumtious nonetheless: anyone notice Ricky Cohen’s WAPO slam of Gonzo as death penalty vulture. When Cohen hangs you out, you gotta know that the rats are parachuting off the leaky GOP scow and that Gonzo is truly tostado!</p></blockquote> <p>Today’s news: USA in NYC prosecutions dropped 32% in 06. Not as part of main story, but buried in details is reference to some kind of tension about the death penalty. Don’t know how it works with USA & staff, but in NYS they’ve pretty much suspended it’s use, although it’s still on the books. Would like to be a fly on the wall on that one.</p> NickOdemus @ 125

Slightly off topic but scrumtious nonetheless: anyone notice Ricky Cohen’s WAPO slam of Gonzo as death penalty vulture. When Cohen hangs you out, you gotta know that the rats are parachuting off the leaky GOP scow and that Gonzo is truly tostado!

Today’s news: USA in NYC prosecutions dropped 32% in 06. Not as part of main story, but buried in details is reference to some kind of tension about the death penalty. Don’t know how it works with USA & staff, but in NYS they’ve pretty much suspended it’s use, although it’s still on the books. Would like to be a fly on the wall on that one.

]]> By: Eureka Springs http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/some-might-call-it-rapture/#comment-602663 Eureka Springs Tue, 03 Apr 2007 23:37:00 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/some-might-call-it-rapture/#comment-602663 <p><a href="#comment-602644"><em>eCAHNomics @ 115</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Larry Johnson on KO tonight re McCain’s Baghdad photo op.</p> <p>Inquiring minds want to know: How much did it cost?</p></blockquote> <p>Last I heard a taxi from the green zone to the airport was 30K US.. Do you suppose McCain and Lindsey got a discount? /snark</p> <p>Also FYI, <a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/04/03/and-rudi-spoke/">Jane is on a rolllll upstairs with a new thread</a></p> eCAHNomics @ 115

Larry Johnson on KO tonight re McCain’s Baghdad photo op.

Inquiring minds want to know: How much did it cost?

Last I heard a taxi from the green zone to the airport was 30K US.. Do you suppose McCain and Lindsey got a discount? /snark

Also FYI, Jane is on a rolllll upstairs with a new thread

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