Zing

The sooner they get raptured, the better. I say bring it on, so we can return to reality.

In a way, there is a certain to be joy found in schadenfreude.

Sort of like the evangelist who’s tired of insisting he’s not gay

A wingnut and a prayer?

I can’t stand looking at fat ass let alone listening to what his drug induced ramblings spout on a daily basis.

When these pigs float, I see a flotilla into the sunset in the Bermuda triangle.

The Conservapedia is becoming some twisted form of the Books of Bokonon. I wouldn’t be surprised if these foma becomes a real religion some day, the wingnuts sure have that need-to-follow-a-cult mindset.

Sort of like the evangelist who’s tired of insisting he’s not gay

Well give him some credit, he was cured you know…. bwahahahahahahahah

“. . .Carol Lam was a campaign manager! These people would normally be made ambassadors, but Clinton put her in as a US attorney. . . .”

priceless!

what a chuckle-head — great post, jane!

continue to live well, and be healthy. . .

Hoping for the day he’ll be off the air. . .

Rush, I know some of your people troll through these comments, so this might get back to you. Know that you deserve to burn for eternity for the damage you’ve done to this country and to civilized, fair debate.

Subpoena Limbaugh’s e-mail.

The Calypsos…
119

Someday, someday, this crazy world will have to end,
And our God will take things back that He to us did lend.
And if, on that sad day, you want to scold our God,
Why just go ahead and scold Him. He’ll just smile and nod.

Nice, puppethead.
Hi Jane!

Carol Lam, according to the communist-infested Wikipedia, was sworn in as US Attorney in 2002, when most conscious individuals acknowledge Bill Clinton was not in fact President.

Bet Keith will have something to say about this.

Comedian Rust Limpballs truly is an idiot. But so are most all of the ditto heads who actually believe his gibberish.

I’m somewhat reminded of the line from “Field of Dreams”: Build it and he will come. Paraphrased for the reich wingers: Say it and it might come true (in an alternate universe – please go there and leave us the h*ll alone).

Thank You (stepping down off soapbox now).

Nolo @ 9

What you said. Where have I heard it’s all Bill Clinton’s fault before? Do you think they will blame this on Bill as well? ;)

Why is it all OK when Clinton did it too? They hated everything he did when he was President?

Doesn’t anybody remember that America was paradise under Bill Clinton? The stock market was up up up, even with all those supposed tax increases. There weren’t any terror alerts or even terror. There wasn’t any war in Iraq -wtf is that about? I remember those times as great times. Bush and Cheney got in there and ruined it all.

WPITW — Hall of Fame edition.

Jane’s on FIRE today!

So…. does the rapture look something like this?

The Turkish Press.com

Bush Tells Of Dreaming Putin In A U.F.O.
Published: 4/2/2007

CRAWFORD, MOSCOW – U.S. President George Walker Bush said Saturday that he had a “subtle deja vu dream” of Russian President Vladimir Putin emerging in front of an UFO.
Chatting with reporters in his Crawford-Texas ranch, he exuberantly narrated his nearly fourteen-second dream.

“Yeah fellas, he (Putin) was commander cosmonaut of his UFO ship. He landed in our ranch. When I was approaching to greet him in front of his Soviet-made hatch-door, I suddenly woke up. I am still so sad that I hadn’t chance to see the rest of this miraculous dream”, Bush said.

“The weirdest thing in this dream is that this was also a pure deja vu for me. But as my mind is busy with hubble-bubble in world politics, this also seemed to me a jamais vu”, Bush told reporters.

“I directly called Mr. Putin through hot-line today and spoke with him in Kremlin, he was quite surprised and thanked for it.”

Meanwhile in Kremlin, President Putin told Russian media that “The only human being that can come out of an UFO would be President Bush and not himself.”

Refusing to elaborate further on Bush’s dream, Putin said “I’m only interested in the hard-rock group UFO’s songs.”

Sometimes I really wonder about these people.

you know– he almost looks like a member of the bush family in that picture.

same numb, dumb, rapturous look.

Thanks Jane. Hope you and your foot are well. Every post is a treat!

Limbaugh doesn’t specifically state it, but that insane talking point actually comes from Hatch on MtP. Orrin Hatch, a US Senator, declared to Russert that Lam was Southern California campaign manager for Clinton. It’s batshit insane, but Timmeh didn’t even ask him about it.

I was wondering how long it would be before it started showing up as a talking point in wingnut-land. I guess now we know.

angie @ 18

you know– he almost looks like a member of the bush family in that picture.

same numb, dumb, rapturous look.

Same feeling of mild nausea, same headache…

Rush must have a mass of oxycodone weighing on his brain sufficient to collapse his cortical gyri. Having your bumps engulfed by your grooves sounds like a biblical rapture of sorts but it sure screws with coherent thought.

dakine01 @ 13

Comedian Rust Limpballs…

On what criteria do you call him a comedian? It sure as hell isn’t because he’s funny.

Muzzy @ 21

Rush must have a mass of oxycodone weighing on his brain sufficient to collapse his cortical gyri. Having your bumps engulfed by your grooves sounds like a biblical rapture of sorts but it sure screws with coherent thought.

That fucker hasn’t had a coherent thought in his entire life.

Three posts in a row…I hope this means that you’re feeling good Jane. We’re all wishing you the best!

epu-ed from last thread: Caffterty read my email on air, but misspelled my name.

Link to Meet the Press transcript where Hatch goes completely insane on the subject of Carol Lam. He also claimed she was a law professor with no prosecutorial experience, when in fact she was a career prosecutor with more than fifteen years experience as an Assistant USAtty before being appointed.

(Rachel Maddow said last night her show has requested a comment from Hatch’s office on these bizarre allegations, but hasn’t gotten a response.)

Who helped him get off?

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/a…..ters3.html

angie @
18

you know– he almost looks like a member of the bush family in that picture.

same numb, dumb, rapturous look.

Thanks Jane. Hope you and your foot are well. Every post is a treat!

Foot is fine. No more splinter.

EvilDrPuma @
22

dakine01 @ 13

Comedian Rust Limpballs…

On what criteria do you call him a comedian? It sure as hell isn’t because he’s funny.

Just stealing a line from Keith Olberman. Basically calls him a comedian as gawd knows he ain’t a journalist.

Very happy to hear that Jane!

;)

I know it may be old, but: He’s a Nazi.

Ruse Limpy looks like he puked in his mouth in that photo. Probably is his everymorning expression when he looks in the mirror and realizes it’s him he is, thinking “Shit, it wasn’t just a nightmare.”

What is often not mentioned, is that any wingnut that believes in Bush will be instantly raptured — straight to Hell . . .

Bush being the either the Anti-Christ, or the sockpuppet of the Anti-Christ.

Commenting about Limpballs and his wierd companions in an alternate universe and the disgusting way in which they try to interact with society is just too far out for me. I would much rather focus on how smoothly the newly formed Pastafarians have integrated into our society and are helping to make it a better place right here in this universe.

Wingnuts have a Fixed World View and they fix the facts and moral values to maintain their world view.

Liberals/Progressives/Democrats use confirmed facts to create their world view which means that their world view will adjust to the ever changing facts on the ground AND maintain their morals as the basis(frame) of their world view.

That is the difference. That is why these wingnuts are so repugnant.

So does Conservapedia have an article on the Flying Spaghetti Monster? Conversely, with its amorphous sprawling nature is it an incarnation of the FSM?

What ever happened to Daryl Kagen?

Little Known Fact: U.S. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton is chair of the DLC’s American Dream Initiative.

eCAHNomics @ 25

epu-ed from last thread: Caffterty read my email on air, but misspelled my name.

So what did you say, and did he spell it “economics”?

Redshift @ 26

Link to Meet the Press transcript where Hatch goes completely insane on the subject of Carol Lam. He also claimed she was a law professor with no prosecutorial experience, when in fact she was a career prosecutor with more than fifteen years experience as an Assistant USAtty before being appointed.

(Rachel Maddow said last night her show has requested a comment from Hatch’s office on these bizarre allegations, but hasn’t gotten a response.)

And Roves buddy Griffin puffs up his resume

The 38-year-old Griffin claims on his official Web site that he prosecuted 40 criminal cases while at Ft. Campbell, where he was stationed from September 2005 to May 2006. But Army authorities say Ft. Campbell’s records show Griffin only serving as assistant trial counsel on three cases, none of which went to trial.

Griffin didn’t agree to be interviewed about his claim of 40 criminal prosecutions versus the Army’s confirmation of three cases, all of which were settled as plea bargains. But Cherith Beck, a Griffin spokeswoman, suggested that Griffin’s higher number might refer to all cases he worked on in any capacity.

hungryjoe @ 29

I know it may be old but: He’s a Nazi

Fits right in with Bush family history.

ironranger @ 38

What ever happened to Daryl Kagen?

After CNN declined to renew her employment contract [5], Kagan left CNN on September 1, 2006. She launched her online venture on November 13, 2006. [6]

Two days after the launch, Kagan’s site featured an author whose book moved from from 100,000th position in the Amazon.com book sales list to 646th position in the one single day after the apppearance on Kagan’s site [7]. An article in the Boston Globe said that Kagan’s site had an “emphasis on stories that illustrate the triumph of the human spirit.” [8]

Kagan sees her story as one of “reinvention,” [9] and gives speeches around the country on that topic. In a Style section cover story on Kagan, the Washington Post noted she “has remade herself like a phoenix rising from the ashes.” [10] In an interview with the Los Angeles Times, Kagan said “I think it’s really important to be informed. I just also think it’s important to be inspired.” [11].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryn_Kagan

I would link to her online venture, but just google and you’ll find it.

Hugh @ 40

eCAHNomics @ 25

epu-ed from last thread: Caffterty read my email on air, but misspelled my name.

So what did you say, and did he spell it “economics”?

The question was about OK’s initiative to force employers to enforce not hiring illegals. I have a good friend who employs 100 near the Canadian border in VT, who educated me as to what a nightmare this would be. So here’s my email:

Ah yes, another government mandate without providing the means to comply. So states want to hold employers responsible for hiring illegals, but there is no ID card that employers can rely on. Also, last I looked, it was the government’s job to enforce the law, not business’ job.

Rosanne*

Spelled Roseanne on the screen.

Eureka Springs @ 41

Griffin didn’t agree to be interviewed about his claim of 40 criminal prosecutions versus the Army’s confirmation of three cases, all of which were settled as plea bargains. But Cherith Beck, a Griffin spokeswoman, suggested that Griffin’s higher number might refer to all cases he worked on in any capacity.

Maybe the 40 cases were 40 cases of beer and he worked on those. Sounds like an honest mistake to me, especially after you have had a few.

BBC World–long story on lawyers demonstrations in Pakistan. Doesn’t seem to be going away.

I wonder if Kagan views her breakup with Rush as a triumph of human spirit or something she wishes she could forget.

ironranger @ 47

I wonder if Kagan views her breakup with Rush as a triumph of human spirit or something she wishes she could forget.

That depends on what your definition of “human” is.

Daryn Kagan

I can’t abide listening to Ed Shultz because his voice conjurs up rush in my head. I get nautious.

Redshift @ 19

Limbaugh doesn’t specifically state it, but that insane talking point actually comes from Hatch on MtP. Orrin Hatch, a US Senator, declared to Russert that Lam was Southern California campaign manager for Clinton. It’s batshit insane, but Timmeh didn’t even ask him about it.

Yeah, Timmy is pretty rank and file with the Republikan party.

Speaking of wingnut media figures. I turned off Lou Dobbs in disgust a minute ago. Dobbs started to talk about the “wider” implications of the pet food poisonings. He started to say something like the pet food comes from “Communist China.” That’s not the only time I heard him or someone else on CNN preface China with Communist. Jeebus! The correct designation is “Mainland China.” I think Dobbs must be a total wingnut. If anything it’s pure capitolist money-grubbing ethos, that makes one sloppy with the pesticides. Upton Sinclair anyone?

Big Scary Teeth!

eCAHNomics @ 25

epu-ed from last thread: Caffterty read my email on air, but misspelled my name.

tell us more….

The San Diego Union-Tribune
September 1, 2002, Sunday
SECTION: LOCAL;Pg. B-1

LENGTH: 272 words

HEADLINE: Designated U.S. attorney to be sworn in; Appointee Lam awaits confirmation by Senate

BYLINE: Marisa Taylor; STAFF WRITER

BODY:
San Diego and Imperial counties are expected to get a new U.S. attorney starting Wednesday.

Carol Lam is scheduled to be sworn in Tuesday as interim U.S. attorney by San Diego’s federal court for an appointment that would take effect the next morning.

Patrick O’Toole, who was sworn in to fill the same position more than a year ago, said he is voluntarily resigning to allow Lam to take over the office even though the U.S. Senate hasn’t confirmed her nomination. President Bush nominated her the day before the Senate broke for summer recess, and although Congress returns this week, her confirmation could drag out.

“Since Carol has been nominated by the president, I felt it would be better for everyone to act on it with certainty rather than waiting,” O’Toole said.

Lam, a Superior Court judge in Vista, will become the first Asian-American U.S. attorney in San Diego.

Lam, 43, was a federal prosecutor for 14 years in San Diego before her appointment to the state bench.

She worked on white-collar crime cases as a prosecutor. She helped prosecute Chris Petti, a San Diego racketeer convicted in 1990 in a money-laundering scheme. The case also resulted in the felony conviction of financier Richard Silberman, married at the time to county Supervisor Susan Golding.

Lam also prosecuted large-scale Medicare fraud cases before being appointed judge in November 2000.

Lam refused to comment on the impending appointment.

O’Toole, a prosecutor in the San Diego office for 20 years, said he would remain in the office to help with the transition.

Marisa Taylor: (619) 293-1020; marisa.taylor@uniontrib.com

angie @ 18

you know– he almost looks like a member of the bush family in that picture.

same numb, dumb, rapturous look.

Thanks Jane. Hope you and your foot are well. Every post is a treat!

That’s the narcotic kicking in. If a pic was taken a few minutes later, we’d have gotten to see limbutthole boot puking.

These creatures lie like rugs becuse they know they will NEVER be called on it.

Could be a coincidence but I think not…
Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that a UFO with 5 aliens crashed onto asheep & cattle ranch just outside Rosell, NM. This is a well known incident that many say has long been covered up by the US Air Force & US Government.
However, what you may NOT know is that in the month of March, 1948 exactly nine months after that historic day George W Bush, Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, Bill O’Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Condi Rice, Albert Gonzales, John Bolton & Dan Quayle were all born.
See what happens when aliens breed with sheep!

noen @ 17

So…. does the rapture look something like this?

The Turkish Press.com

Bush Tells Of Dreaming Putin In A U.F.O.

It almost sounds like April Fools. Although I have no doubt Bush dreams of being on a UFO with Putin.

David Ehrenstein @ 56

These creatures lie like rugs becuse they know they will NEVER be called on it.

For a dollar a rug in an Iraqi market… they can afford to sweep all the lies they want, under a rug.

Until we call them to the carpet!

greenwarrior @ 52

eCAHNomics @ 25

epu-ed from last thread: Caffterty read my email on air, but misspelled my name.

tell us more….

See me @43

Speaking of wingnut media figures. I turned off Lou Dobbs in disgust a minute ago. Dobbs started to talk about the “wider” implications of the pet food poisonings. He started to say something like the pet food comes from “Communist China.” That’s not the only time I heard him or someone else on CNN preface China with Communist. Jeebus! The correct designation is “Mainland China.” I think Dobbs must be a total wingnut. If anything it’s pure capitolist money-grubbing ethos, that makes one sloppy with the pesticides. Upton Sinclair anyone?

Dobbs=fascist?

Ya’ know, I used to make a lot of elitist fun of Rush doing his oxycontin…but this last fall, during radiation therapy, I ended up using a bit of it myself. Umm. A smooth ride; everything is just groooovy.

Didn’t turn me into a lying mean nasty winger talk radio host though. Just a slightly stoned liberal who’s computer was still permanently set to FDL…

I threw out the rest of the bottle as soon as my pain was manageable with Advil. I could hear it whispering to me from inside the medicine cabinet.

ironranger @ 56

Nice trick, since Shrub was born two years before that (I don’t know about the others). Now if you’d said the aliens were spreading spores or something that turned people into, well, whatever these guys are, that would be funny.

mui @ 51

Speaking of wingnut media figures. I turned off Lou Dobbs in disgust a minute ago. Dobbs started to talk about the “wider” implications of the pet food poisonings. He started to say something like the pet food comes from “Communist China.” That’s not the only time I heard him or someone else on CNN preface China with Communist. Jeebus! The correct designation is “Mainland China.” I think Dobbs must be a total wingnut. If anything it’s pure capitolist money-grubbing ethos, that makes one sloppy with the pesticides. Upton Sinclair anyone?

All true, but the last I knew the Chinese government still claimed to be communist. If Karl Marx was alive today he’d be having an apoplectic fit over that, but as it is he isn’t able to defend his intellectual property against such transparently obvious abuse.

David Ehrenstein @
55

These creatures lie like rugs becuse they know they will NEVER be called on it.

The Bush Gang will be “raptured” right into there
bolt hole in Paraguay.

ironranger @ 56

Could be a coincidence but I think not…
Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that a UFO with 5 aliens crashed onto asheep & cattle ranch just outside Rosell, NM. This is a well known incident that many say has long been covered up by the US Air Force & US Government.
However, what you may NOT know is that in the month of March, 1948 exactly nine months after that historic day George W Bush, Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, Bill O’Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Condi Rice, Albert Gonzales, John Bolton & Dan Quayle were all born.
See what happens when aliens breed with sheep!

OMG! Can I quote that to friends? Heh.

Jane Hamsher >”…the communist-infested Wikipedia…”

You mean the evil dirty drug addled hippie infested Wikipedia don`t you ?

I say “bring it on” w/the Conservapedia. This will allow the public at large to see just what kind of idiocy these people are pushing. It will be available for one and all to cruise. Probably even provide plenty of material for “Late Night FDL:” and TRex I`d wager.

They are free to rapture all they want as soon as they want as far as I am concerned. The sooner the better in fact.

Drug addicts on radio, who coulda, woulda thought ?

“I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.” – Galileo Galilei

eCAHNomics @ 60

Dobbs=fascist?

Dobbs= stuck in the Cold War, inappropriate, wingnut bastard. He’s the type who would normally approve cheap outsourcing of labor or production of wheat gluten, as long as it led to higher profit margins. He’s the type who would approve of deregulations from A to Z, until it bites him in the ass. /rant off

A’57 @ 65

The Bush Gang will be “raptured” right into there bolt hole in Paraguay.

I prefer to think of it as a “spider hole.” The irony is always good for a bitter chuckle.

Don Rumsfeld was born in 1932.

Rush says: “Duke Cunningham is in jail. Patrick Fitzgerald was not fired!”

I’m sure that everyone noticed this odd pairing apart from the false statements about Lam.

Not a shred of evidence Hatch says? When Sampson was asked about his email -we’ve got a Lam problem- the day after word went to the DoJ from Lam about extending her investigation, Sampson gave an entirely tangential response. Then there was some weird interruption or crosstalk and it wasn’t followed up. It still burns me that no one nailed him down hard on it but there should be (better be!) more opportunities to get to the heart of the matter.

sofistic @ 65

ironranger @ 56

Could be a coincidence but I think not…
Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that a UFO with 5 aliens crashed onto asheep & cattle ranch just outside Rosell, NM. This is a well known incident that many say has long been covered up by the US Air Force & US Government.
However, what you may NOT know is that in the month of March, 1948 exactly nine months after that historic day George W Bush, Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, Bill O’Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Condi Rice, Albert Gonzales, John Bolton & Dan Quayle were all born.
See what happens when aliens breed with sheep!

OMG! Can I quote that to friends? Heh.

Ack, Ack!

EvilDrPuma @ 68

A’57 @ 65

The Bush Gang will be “raptured” right into there bolt hole in Paraguay.

I prefer to think of it as a “spider hole.” The irony is always good for a bitter chuckle.

too true, and “bitter” is the operative word, indeed.

It really doesn’t matter if Ironranger’s comment is true, it would still make a great viral meme.

sofistic: be my guest..someone justt sent that to me yesterday. It sure seemed to fit in this thread.

EvilDrPuma @ 63

All true, but the last I knew the Chinese government still claimed to be communist. If Karl Marx was alive today he’d be having an apoplectic fit over that, but as it is he isn’t able to defend his intellectual property against such transparently obvious abuse.

Umm, the point is we don’t preface Britain with Socialist and so on and soforth. To do so would sound funny or maybe even slightly abusive, as it sounds with China. That is why media normally say China, Mainland China or PRC.

EvilDrPuma >

I prefer to think of it as a “spider hole.” The irony is always good for a bitter chuckle.

I suspect there are some weapons systems that have those target coordinates already locked in. Rev. Moon is also in the neighborhood I understand. “Birds of a feather…” and all that.

“Let everyone sweep in front of his own door, and the whole world will be clean.” – Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

eCAHNomics @ 59

greenwarrior @ 52
eCAHNomics @ 25
epu-ed from last thread: Caffterty read my email on air, but misspelled my name.
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tell us more….
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See me @43

saw it, thanks rosanne

To complete the list ironranger@56:
Bush=1946
Cheney=1941
Rumsfeld=1932
O’Reilly=1949
Limbaugh=1951
Rice=1954
Gonzales=1955
Bolton=1948
Quayle=1947

Just to transmogrify your title, Jane…
Some Might Call it Rupture

There is a great post on The Carpetbagger Report from a few days ago about the mainstream media’s (specifically Time magazine’s) ignoring the prosecutor purge scandal.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerrepo…..10367.html

What explains the failure of the mainstream media to cover the purge scandal for so long, and so many other scandals? Do you think somebody just set up newspaper editors to cheat on their wives, and threatened to tell if the editors wouldn’t play ball when they come back some day and ask for something?

It wouldn’t be that hard to do, when you think about it. People wouldn’t talk about it.

O/T

please have kathleen kennedy townsend on book salon
new book-failing america’s faithful

she was on tavis smiley on pbs last night

bobby kennedy’s daughter

lt gov maryland two terms
deputy assistant ag under clinton
ran for gov maryland
said 3 indictments in 2002 right before election against her, new ag appt’d after election dropped all charges………..

said ag’s should be without favor.

don’t have a link, but try to find it and listen to it, she’s a HAMMER

wow she hit every single nail. once. was all she needed, didn’t waste a word.
talked about church and progressive politics, the history of it. social justice traditions……..the ‘god’ in politics now-she slammed ‘em, oh baby

a few comments i could have done without, after all she is focusing on the religious left, she’s definitely catholic, but overall, she’s tryin’ to bring ‘em in, the ones who fell fools to bush being a ‘religious man’….wants to ‘reclaim the tradition’….said the religious right is splitting on global warming and torture.

she talked politics and then talked religion, each separate and articulately……..

please invite her to do book salon, would be a very interesting talk.

mui >

“Umm, the point is we don’t preface Britain with Socialist and so on and soforth. To do so would sound funny or maybe even slightly abusive, as it sounds with China…”

That would be like saying Fascist America or Right Wing America wouldn`t it ?

“When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist. ” – Archbishop Helder Camara

Juan Cole refers to the Shurja Market as “McCain’s Market”. Looks like we’ve got us an albatross.

Primordial Ooze @ 83

Juan Cole refers to the Shurja Market as “McCain’s Market”. Looks like we’ve got us an albatross.

Did he buy presents for all those troops?

“When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist. ” – Archbishop Helder Camara

Another quote–don’t know the source: Capitalism is a dog eat dog world, whereas communism is just the reverse.

Talk about a parallel universe:

http://www.conservapedia.com/C…..eted_pages

daCascadian @
66

Jane Hamsher >”…the communist-infested Wikipedia…”

You mean the evil dirty drug addled hippie infested Wikipedia don`t you ?

You are absolutely right. My bad. I just got lazy.

dmac
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said the religious right is splitting on global warming and torture.

Lets hear that from the religious right…

Sorry I missed the show.. thanks dmac

31Tudor @ 86

Talk about a parallel universe:

http://www.conservapedia.com/C…..eted_pages

Now that is funny.

Oh crap, I googled Lou Dobbs “communist china” and transcript. He says it regularly and always to reference it as “the enemy.”

As long as BushCo knows it can count on steno service from folks like Grandpa Charlie, reporting repeating tonight the key talking points from Dubya’s presser with no coverage of Dem response, then they’ll just keep bidness as usual…

No more “as usual” around here. After three decades of ABC Nightly News watching, we switched tonight to NBC. Helllllllllllloooooooooooooooo, Brian….

Try to look up Tom DeLay. Or corruption.

eCAHNomics >

Another quote–don’t know the source: Capitalism is a dog eat dog world, whereas communism is just the reverse.

a world eat world dog ?

Hmmmm…

“We have enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another.” – Jonathan Swift

I hate that phrase “early withdrawal.” It’s so ewwww.

daCascadian @ 93

eCAHNomics >

Another quote–don’t know the source: Capitalism is a dog eat dog world, whereas communism is just the reverse.

a world eat world dog ?

A dog eat running dog world.

daCascadian @ 82

That would be like saying Fascist America or Right Wing America wouldn`t it ?

“When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist. ” – Archbishop Helder Camara

Kind of.

eCAHNomics @ 94

I hate that phrase “early withdrawal.” It’s so ewwww.

Besides, we all know Bush would never support an early withdrawal, despite his long history of premature ejaculation.

31Tudor @ 92

Try to look up Tom DeLay. Or corruption.

Wassup? Too much hacking?

Rush is a fucking liar. What’s new? He’s always been a fucking liar.

31Tudor @ 87

Talk about a parallel universe:

http://www.conservapedia.com/C…..eted_pages

What is “Does Jack of All Trades Rock Your Socks Off?” and “Himbl Bimbl”??

talk talk shows-
have listened to both sides of them

the difference?
the tone………..
they are enthusiastic, like it’s life’s blood what they are offering, emoting, like it’s original thought, even though i know it’s not, sounds like it is. they’re good at that.

us? cynical and pointing fingers……….some moments of jubilation, usually at their expense, so not a naturally forthcoming expression, but a reaction…….we are always reacting……….

they are complacent in their tone, like it’s already dogma…….why isn’t peace love and understanding dogma?????????

we need a new tone is what i think when i listen to it….both sides of it….wish i could figure out what that new sound would sound like.

it just seems to me that when you get cynical, not fresh, that you lose right there.
cynical sounds like death, and noone wants a part of that…….so i hope that the new tone is alive and refreshed and animated about what is coming next instead of reacting to bobblehead conumdrums…………

ok my rare rant is done.
a new tone of voice, that’s what we need

Jane Hamsher @ 87

daCascadian @
66

Jane Hamsher >”…the communist-infested Wikipedia…”

You mean the evil dirty drug addled hippie infested Wikipedia don`t you ?

You are absolutely right. My bad. I just got lazy.

That’s “Communist Wikipedia” to Lou Dobbs.

couldn’t find Oliver North in the conservapedia.

I guess they’re only into convienient “facts”.

31Tudor >

Talk about a parallel universe:

http://www.conservapedia.com/C…..eted_pages

Soooo I don`t see a Chocolate Jesus page at all. Are they behind or what ?

“I believe there is a force to the universe, I just don’t commit to any particular man behind the curtain” – Oliver Willis

T- @ 103

couldn’t find Oliver North in the conservapedia.

I guess they’re only into convienient “facts”.

Oh that’s easy. Oliver North (conservapedia). One word: Hero.
See! so easy to write in Conservapedia.

daCascadian @ 104

31Tudor >

Talk about a parallel universe:

http://www.conservapedia.com/C…..eted_pages

Soooo I don`t see a Chocolate Jesus page at all. Are they behind or what ?

“I believe there is a force to the universe, I just don’t commit to any particular man behind the curtain” – Oliver Willis

Hey–don’t snark. Chocolate Jesus doesn’t have a wiki page either.

OT– here are some funnies with Pammy: 2nd and 4th one down @ the first link although missing the others is a mistake, imho.

watertiger!

http://www.dependablerenegade.com/

I think she and Laura musta had a fashun discushun “cause then there’s this:

http://www.dependablerenegade……thing.html

seems eerie to me.

EvilDrPuma >

A dog eat running dog world.

Oh. Correct.

Guess I need to head back to reeducation camp or do a refresher course or something.

“…You know you’re an evangelical if the fundamentalists think you’re a liberal and the liberals think you’re a fundamentalist…” – Alan Jacobs

On the News Hour, a clip of Bushie saying, they ought to get the bill to my desk, so I can veto it..blah blah..

Am I to understand they are holding the bill and running down the clock? If so, wtg Dems!

Google search string:lou Dobbs communist China site:http://transcripts.cnn.com
Looks like Lou Dobbs has said “Communist China” 381 times.

mui @ 110

Google search string:lou Dobbs communist China site:http://transcripts.cnn.com
Looks like Lou Dobbs has said “Communist China” 381 times.

And understood what it means not once.

donna @ 99

Rush is a fucking liar. What’s new? He’s always been a fucking liar.

Actually, Rush is all marketing. He has chosen a side for marketing reasons only: he makes lots of money. There is no sincerity behind his positions and his only thoughts revolve around maintaining the flow of money. He will switch sides if the money runs dry and be equally phony.

Hmmm…I wonder whether the USAttorney for South Florida ever got a phone call. Because it seems like Rush and his “24″-producer friend, fresh off a romp with the under-[ small integer removed upon advice of counsel ] set in the Dominican Republic and leaving a trail of little blue pills down the airport concourse, might otherwise have been a legal target of opportunity.

Larry Johnson on KO tonight re McCain’s Baghdad photo op.

Inquiring minds want to know: How much did it cost?

parallel military universe, too.
scary.
blackwater building training camp in calif. brings jobs to rural community!

rawstory
“Townspeople and environmentalists are squaring off against the company and public officials. The Portrero Planning Group approved the facility by a 7-0 vote in December – but since then more than half of the town’s registered voters have signed a petition opposing the facility. Residents also say they are organizing a recall against members of the Planning Group who voted in favor.

Chairman of the Planning Group Gordon Hammers says he won’t reconsider the board’s decision.

“I think it’s good for the community,” he said in a recent interview with the East County Californian. “It provides jobs.”

“It will improve the general economy of the community and as a result, improve property values,” he added. Hammers contended that arguments against the project “have absolutely no rhyme or reason” and that some opposition is based on misunderstanding of the project’s scope. “

Guess I need to head back to reeducation camp or do a refresher course or something.

You could always go to Jebus camp.

Google search string: ou Dobbs anti-U.S. Chavez site:http://transcripts.cnn.com

only 19 Hits.

angie >

“…although missing the others is a mistake, imho.

watertiger!…”

Watertiger indeed. A VERY special talent.

The best recent one IMO. I do wonder what she said to Pissy POTUS.

“If you don’t deal with reality, reality will deal with you” – C.J. Campbell

angie at 42
followed the link
daryl kagen and rush limpass
i’m speechless.

oh. my.

first time i’ve ever said this——-spew alert………..

my mind is a’twirlin

tbsa >

You could always go to Jebus camp.

Uhhh, yea.

My mouth & I would be in very, very deep trouble there.

“We are all individual molecules of a great social gas.” – Huxley

but, but

Badwater @ 112– I don’t want his tainted, nasty, lying self on our side.

i would much rather see him serving soup in a homeless shelter and shuffling home in shame to look at his sorry self in a cracked mirror.

(no Cuban cigars, either!)

dmac @ 119– sorry.

daCascadian @ 118– watertiger is a treasure indeed.

daCascadian @ 119

Watertiger indeed. A VERY special talent.
The best recent one IMO. I do wonder what she said to Pissy POTUS.

Wow. Beautiful. I want to know too!

Eureka Springs @ 109

On the News Hour, a clip of Bushie saying, they ought to get the bill to my desk, so I can veto it..blah blah..

Am I to understand they are holding the bill and running down the clock? If so, wtg Dems!

not intentional, the House and Senate versions need to be reconciled… but maybe a good idea…

to proceed with great caution, you know…

What the conservapedia reminds me of so far is the kind of encyclopedia created in the USSR in the mid-1930s for elementary school students. Reading their entry for the Council of Nicaea, it is like an elementary or middle school article. Compare it to the wikipedia entry on the same subject.

John Quiggin’s observation, cited above by Jane, that:

Maybe with sufficient will, the wished-for universe will be brought into existence, and the entire Bush support base raptured into it.,

seems to be eerily resonating in part of the conservapedia council of Nicaea article, by this comment there:

The Council ultimately decided that Jesus was the Son of God, by one vote.

Conservapedia couldn’t have been more outrageously humorous had Vonnegut created it.

Back to work? I’d better!

Slightly off topic but scrumtious nonetheless: anyone notice Ricky Cohen’s WAPO slam of Gonzo as death penalty vulture. When Cohen hangs you out, you gotta know that the rats are parachuting off the leaky GOP scow and that Gonzo is truly tostado!

I just went on the Federal Elections Commission site and found that Carol Lam, not only is unlikely to have been a campaign manager for a DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE. If she was a campaign manager it was likely to someone of “Republican persuasion”…perhaps a local campaign manager to TOM CAMPBELL!

http://www.opensecrets.org/ind…..tName=Lam, Carol&txtState=(all states)&txtAll=Y&Order=N

Ms. Jane upstairs!

http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..udi-spoke/

cinnamonape @ 126

I just went on the Federal Elections Commission site and found that Carol Lam, not only is unlikely to have been a campaign manager for a DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE. If she was a campaign manager it was likely to someone of “Republican persuasion”…perhaps a local campaign manager to TOM CAMPBELL!

http://www.opensecrets.org/ind…..tName=Lam, Carol&txtState=(all states)&txtAll=Y&Order=N

Well something fouled up with the link to the Open Secrets site

But this is what it showed:

Results: 1 records found in 1.7578 seconds.

Total for this search: $1,000
Search Criteria:
Donor name: Lam, Carol
Donor State: CA
Cycle(s) selected: All

Contributor: LAM, CAROL C MS
LA JOLLA,CA 92037
Occupation: U S ATTORNEY’S OFFICE
Date: 1/3/2000
Amount: $1,000
Recipient: Campbell, Tom

eCAHNomics @ 115

Larry Johnson on KO tonight re McCain’s Baghdad photo op.

Inquiring minds want to know: How much did it cost?

Last I heard a taxi from the green zone to the airport was 30K US.. Do you suppose McCain and Lindsey got a discount? /snark

Also FYI, Jane is on a rolllll upstairs with a new thread

NickOdemus @ 125

Slightly off topic but scrumtious nonetheless: anyone notice Ricky Cohen’s WAPO slam of Gonzo as death penalty vulture. When Cohen hangs you out, you gotta know that the rats are parachuting off the leaky GOP scow and that Gonzo is truly tostado!

Today’s news: USA in NYC prosecutions dropped 32% in 06. Not as part of main story, but buried in details is reference to some kind of tension about the death penalty. Don’t know how it works with USA & staff, but in NYS they’ve pretty much suspended it’s use, although it’s still on the books. Would like to be a fly on the wall on that one.

What’s really interesting is that Grey Davis thought Carol Lam was appropriate to appoint to the State Court position in spite of her contributing to Campbell’s Senatorial campaign.

A real case of bipartisanship…something that we have never seen the Bush Administration practice.

An examination of the nature of “Fact” is in order.

A fact is that which I believe to be true.

However:

Not everything I believe is indeed a fact!

Subtle, and true. Case:

The Sun rises revolves around the earth. A fact until it was proven otherwise. It was rejected by the ruling party, the Church.

Locality. It was a cherished physical belief, a fact until it went up against quantum physics…and lost.

The upshot of all this is fact is bandied about like some sort of absolute, especially by the right. It isn’t absolute. Very few facts are unassailable.

Most of what is considered fact is rather verisimilitude, “the state or quality of something that exhibits the appearance of truth or reality.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verisimilitude

Oops! There’s that wicked Wikipedia!

Here’s an essay about one Karl Popper, who searched for truth telling:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Popper

njr @ 123

Eureka Springs @ 109

On the News Hour, a clip of Bushie saying, they ought to get the bill to my desk, so I can veto it..blah blah..

Am I to understand they are holding the bill and running down the clock? If so, wtg Dems!

not intentional, the House and Senate versions need to be reconciled… but maybe a good idea…

to proceed with great caution, you know…

and some of them, the democrats anyway, disobediently went to syria.

NickOdemus @ 125

Slightly off topic but scrumtious nonetheless: anyone notice Ricky Cohen’s WAPO slam of Gonzo as death penalty vulture. When Cohen hangs you out, you gotta know that the rats are parachuting off the leaky GOP scow and that Gonzo is truly tostado!

have you got a link?

I’ve heard that Rush LimpPaw has ingested so much V*agra that he has a permanent stiff upper lip…er, or something.

[* edited by Mod]

This is where the drug-addled gas bag got his info:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17857501/page/3/
SEN. HATCH: Pat, I didn’t interrupt you. Now, let me just tell you something. There is not one shred of evidence here that any of these appointments were made to, to use Senator Specter’s words, to, to, to interfere with an ongoing investigation or case. Not one shred of evidence. This is a tempest in a teapot and, and, and the president—everybody admits that the president—these people served at the pleasure of the president. What happened here is, the president’s goals and purposes were to go after immigration smuggling cases, gun cases, so they get tough on the misuse of guns, on pornography cases. And some of these people were not doing that. Now, where they got in problems is they, they said there were performance problems. What they meant, it seemed to me by the so-called word in performance, was that these people were not following up on these cases.

Take Carol Lam, for instance. Carol Lam was raised on your program, Tim, by Schumer. Carol Lam, it’s amazing to me she wasn’t fired earlier because for three years members of the Congress had complained that there had been all kinds of border patrol capture of these people but hardly any prosecutions. She was a former law professor, no prosecutorial experience, and the former campaign manager in Southern California for Clinton, and they’re trying to say that this administration appoints people politically? Of course they do. That’s what these positions are. But politically they’ve appointed people who have been approved by the Justice Department—the Judiciary Committee, in most cases, who have served well, are strong people and, and, frankly, these, these seven were really mishandled.

This is how they create reality though. They just keep saying it over and over. It doesn’t matter that it’s not true. They’ll make it true. They understand that history is negotiated not recorded.

dmac @
119

angie at 42
followed the link
daryl kagen and rush limpass
i’m speechless. …

Good ol’ Daryl–the “Calista Flockhart of Wingnuttia!”