
Seems the National Center for Public Policy has issued a paper calling a recent 60 Minutes report on the Big Pharma boondoggle within the Medicare Drug Plans a flat bunch of hooey:
…the CBS News program 60 Minutes broadcast a segment on prescription drug prices that relied heavily on a flawed report written by a group with a clear political motive. Producers of the program did so despite the repeated warnings of The National Center for Public Policy Research that the report could not reliably justify its conclusion.
"60 Minutes had its storyline," says David Hogberg, a senior policy analyst with The National Center for Public Policy Research, "and it wasn't going to let facts get in the way. If it was supposed to be an April Fool's Day prank, the producers of 60 Minutes never let viewers in on the joke. Instead, it provided yet another example as to why the American public increasingly does not and should not trust the mainstream media."
And who would the head of the National Center for Public Policy be? Why our good friend, Amy Ridneour, nee Moritz, she of the College Republicans:
Back in 1981, Abramoff and his campaign manager, Norquist, promised their leading competitor, Amy Moritz, the job of crnc executive director if she dropped out of the race. Moritz took the bait, but it turned out that Abramoff had made the promise with his fingers crossed. Norquist took the executive director job and named Moritz his deputy. That demotion didn’t last long, either. After discovering the talented Ralph Reed, Norquist handed the Christian Coalition godfather Moritz’s responsibilities and her office space. They placed all of Moritz’s belongings in a box labeled "amy’s desk." Even 25 years later, she hasn’t shed her role as College Republican doormat. Abramoff used her think tank, the National Center for Public Policy Research, to funnel nearly $1 million into a phony direct-mail firm with an address identical to his own.
When last seen around these parts, Amy was fleecing old people.
In other news, the NYT has this to say about the new EPA decision by the Supreme Court:
The decision was unnervingly close, and some of the arguments in the dissent, written by Chief Justice John Roberts Jr., were cause for concern — especially his comments about the “complexities” of the science of climate change, which is too close for comfort to the administration’s party line.
Chris Rock once said that as a new father, his job was to "keep my baby off the pole." I dunno, when I look at some things people are willing to do for a buck that pole starts to look pretty good.
(h/t TBogg, photo by RadioSpike)



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((((Jane))))
Thanks, Jane. Good post. Trust you’re doing well.
Jane Hamsher >”…when I look at some things people are willing to do for a buck that pole starts to look pretty good.”
Not to mention more honest
“I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.” – Galileo Galilei
i am suprised joe lie-berman hasn’t come out saying the same tripe. it’s still early in the news cycle though…
Too bad AARP is sill in the tank on this issue
katherine graham cracker @
6
Yes to that
It’s “nee”.
i could NOT agree more, jane. . .
note — particularly the comics
backing karl rove the other night. . .
and to that end, last week, it was
suggested that “someone” should
do a caustic mash-up of the “m.c. rove”
dreck — so. . . i did!
if you missed it, karl rove rapped (solely
in the dictionary sense of that word,
mind you), and then did a little
stand-up “comedy” routine at the
correspondents’ banquet. . . this is
the same dinner at which colbert gave mr.
bush more reality than he could handle,
last year. . . it is also the banquet at
which mr. bush infamously made light
of not having found weapons of mass
destruction in iraq, a few years earlier. . .
so — i humbly offer my video rejoinder to
mr. rove, to mr. cheney, and to mr. bush.
[forgive the rather proletarian
editing effects/efforts — it is all
i have to work with. . . i offer it,
gratis, for/to/on any site that
would like to post/link it. . .
it is available now on youtube.]
Saw a beautiful and slick advertisement last night by Big Pharma telling how well the competition built into the new medicare bill is working out…and that we should all want to keep the FEDS out of negotiating drug prices
What they forgot to say that is working out the best for…who else… Big Pharma…
BTW… WE are the Government and the ability to negotiate for lower drug prices will be good for All of WE the PEOPLE.
So a while back (just a few days ago) I got the opportunity (i’ll use that term verry loosely) to watch a movie called:
They Live
This movie made in in the late 80’s was made as an attack on the fledgeling policies of the Reagan Administration and Free Marketists.
How much has this changed in the past 20 yrs? Watch the movie (if you can) and think how germane it is.
We must get back to the progressive policies of the 30’s, 40’s and 50’s. I remember my father and how he spoke of the good ol days.
gak!
I just mentioned Ridenour in the last thread!
Sunlight is the best bleach. Thanks for getting this story out there. The more these crooks are exposed, the more likely that people will start discounting them. It’s beginning to happen, slowly. Part of the big work for the next year is getting people to react without thinking ‘that’s just more crap from a right-wing think-tank’. If the public starts to be skeptical about them, the way they were taught to be skeptical about Democrats, we will have won a major battle.
Criminy, Amy makes me want to paraphrase an old joke…
Q: What’s the difference between a College Republican and a screen door?
A: Once you slam a screen door, it doesn’t keep following you around.
Amy looks like Dennis Hastert’s Mini ME! Just say no to inbreeding! Yeterday it was Karl Rove and Kyle Sampson when will it end how many more clones are out there?
nolo @ 9,
Hate to be a continual pain, but that dinner with Rove’s “Rap” was not this year’s White House Correspondents Assoc. dinner. That dinner occurs 4/21 (per wiki always the last Saturday night in April). The dinner last week that Rove did his schtick was the Radio/TV Correspondents dinner. Much the same crowd and basic stupidity, but two different organizations. We still have Rich Little to look forward to. :}(
It boggles the mind that so many people still believe that corporations such as those in Big Pharma will do anything out of the goodness of their hearts. The only beneficiaries of Big Pharma’s largesse are the politicians they own and carry in their back pockets. The rest of us should just as well go p*ss up a rope as far as they’re concerned.
What people will do for money is the reason I am no longer a sports nut. I think professional sports, college sports, high school sports, and even Little League have much in common these days with corrupt politics.
Good one NOLA!
I mean…
Good one NOLO! I
I sure feel sorry for Tony the suck-up Blair. Don’t you?
LONDON — The Iranian prisoner crisis revealed a widening schism between Britain and the United States yesterday as U.S. leaders called for tough action and British officials confirmed that they are trying to free their 15 imprisoned sailors by quietly reaching a compromise with Tehran.
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…../#comments
And maybe we’d have more assurance about the safety of our food, and our pets’ food, if the FDA stopped reducing food inspections. They seem to spend the bulk of their time helping Big Pharma rush new drugs to market.
dakine01 says @ 16
thanks for the heads’ up — i’ll
go revise on my blog, accordingly.
and — “aboslutely no pain” at all — i
need the extra eyes/white-out fluid!
thanks!
– nolo
What a lovely little organization!
I think this really says it all about conservatives and the concept of intellectual consistency:
Also expert at shamelessly exploiting national crisis for political ends:
Wow. Just wow.
So why should anyone who isn’t a raving wingnut believe a word these bozos say?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 20
Yeah, Tony “Poodle” Blair gets to experience the Bushies bringing a whole new meaning to the phrase “screw the pooch.”
PROVO, Utah — Some students and faculty on one of the nation’s most conservative campuses want Brigham Young University to withdraw an invitation for Vice President Dick Cheney to speak at commencement this month.
Critics at the school question whether Cheney sets a good example for graduates, citing his promotion of faulty intelligence before the Iraq war and his role in the CIA leak scandal.
The university, which is owned by the Mormon church, has “a heavy emphasis on personal honesty and integrity in all we do,” said Professor Warner Woodworth.
“Cheney just doesn’t measure up,” he said.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/p…..03.article
*groan*
Worst part is, I have to wonder if Blair is entirely unwilling…
This sure sounds familiar…
“Political engineering is a concept in political science that deals with the designing of political institutions in a society. The criteria and constraints used in such design vary depending on the optimization methods used and they are also a function of the time and place where they are applied. It is worth noting that political engineering, using suboptimal methods or criteria, can sometimes yield disastrous results as in the case of attempting to engineer a country’s political landscape by such methods as, for example, a coup d’tat.” Wikipedia.
Jane,
Trust you are well.
I’ve come to believe one aspect of fundamentalist dogma concerning the Catholic Church – the “Whore of Babylon” – just has to be projection.
OK Kid,
You scare me dude, ’cause I’ve done the same thing.
I’ve watched a beautiful team sport I’ve loved my whole life – college basketball – become all about individual stats and “the benjamins.” I’ve watched very little the past five years (I’m peeved at the Jerry Springer treatment UNC gave Dougherty) and after this year, probably none.
Right now the only sport that slows me down enough to watch is ladies’ softball and basketball. They still know what teamwork is.
My prayer each day includs (((( JANE )))) Iam 70 years young and say you are Oh so Right on AARP = = = = Big BIZ !!!
James E. Thompson @
29
Thank you, James
I saw that piece on 60 Minutes. This is the “Who ‘ya gonna believe, me or your lyin’ eyes” defense. What a hoax!
Oh, as an additional aside, Jim Pederson, who ran for the Senate against Jon Kyl here in AZ, said in a meeting with his campaign workers, that he got into the race when he saw that Jon Kyl cast the deciding vote to prohibit negotiated drug prices for Medicare recipients.
Another thing for the list of things for the new Congress to fix.
Somebody really should ask Amy if she likes being a doormat, and is she willing to go to jail for Jack Abramoff? Jack has been funneling her cash we know this now either she flips and rats out Grover, Reed and all the MEAN BOYS! Who picked on her during college or she will go to jail as THEY RAT HER OUT and say that it was all Amy’s idea. What do they say about a woman scorned and Hell’s Fury? Of course if that won’t get her to flip we make sure that she knows the MSM will get the full story of her being Jacks doormat! If you can’t motivate with fear/anger try fear of embarrasment/ fear of not fitting in she might not have any pride to provoke to anger, but I’m willing to bet her fear of not fitting in will motivate her to talk. After all its better to be a turncoat insider than have everyone know that your really not “with ” the cough (please excuse the vomit) cool kids/college Republicans
Really creepy Cheney YouTube.
The part I like is that Cheney looks a little scared/shaken.
http://www.mydd.com/story/2007/4/3/162853/0939
My last comment was directed to Redshift at #24.
Jane –
Glad to see CHS isn’t the only one fiesty today!
Why does it always seem to be the same people whose names are involved in scandals and this Administration: Abramhoff, Reed, Rove, Norquist, Moritz? That must have been quite a batch of Purple Jesus that they brewed up and swallowed at the NCRC.
As for Roberts, it was only a matter of time before his colors showed.
xyz, thanks for the cheney youtube. He looked nervous watching over his boy. I just wish the camera had just stayed on cheney the whole time.
So as usual the repugs make grand charges, and fail to support or follow up on those charges in any germaine way. The best they could do was charge that the prices of compared drugs bought by medicare D and the VA were wrong, saying that the prices vary by county, and that they knew that the numbers 60 minutes relied on were from an affluent county. But they didn’t attempt to provide the “real” numbers, nor to support their contention that the the numbers from Mongomery county were not representative of the rest of the country. Mostly they didn’t attemt to prove that the one piece of info they are arguing about should nullify the entire report. Lazy. And typical.
I thought Roberts’ writing indicated he wanted to move SCOTUS to unanimity, in order to strengthen its rulings. Not so much lately.
Ridenour on the SCOTUS decision:
more gum flapping here:
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/vi…..0402c.html
ironranger @ 36
Ironranger – Are you from Northern Minnesota?
angie @ 39
I will be happy to push for any “groups on the political left” I am a member of as soon as Ridenour proves her qualifications by telling us how many Supreme Court cases she has judged.
TeddySanFran @ 38
Republicans have campaign issues and governing issues. They are rarely the same. That was a campaign issue and is no longer important.
Has this reponse from Ridenour turned up in any of the MSM? Are they piling on CBS for daring to do real journalism again?
LOL Redshift!
From what I can see she never even graduated from college.
http://www.nationalcenter.org/Staffbios.html
(not that anything is wrong with that, unless you are given such an influential position and have your fingers in so much corruption and so many lies, that is!)
xyz, am I from N Minn? You betcha.
katherine graham cracker @
6
The whole right wing fascist movement in this country is one giant Manchurian Candidate Psy-Op.
They are eager to infiltrate any organization dedicated to the common good and turn its principles and objectives upside down. This includes the AARP.
Either that, or they create new organizations with names diametrically opposed to their evil plans, the better to fool the sheeple with.
If I’m not mistaken, all of this comes from a CIA handbook about how to infiltrate and manipulate and exploit organizations and influence elections in FOREIGN countries.
They have taken hostile psy-ops methods originally intended for foreign “enemy” targets and aimed them at US.
Ann in AZ –
If you’re still here, thanks very much for the lovely email you wrote me today. The rest of my day is pretty nutso in terms of obnoxious tasks to accomplish, so a lack of a reply today just means I’m busy. Thank you for your thoughtfulness in what you wrote!
I’m neither a Republican nor a woman, but it seems to me that “Republican woman” is synonomous with someone who doesn’t mind being treated like a doormat.
Ridenour sounds like Andrew Sullivan in drag:
likes to be slapped around, humiliated
and barely tolerated by ugly Republican men.
scory @ 35
IIRC Roberts one of the lawyers there in Florida in 2000 fixing the response re the recount. No surprise that he’d be doing Bush’s bidding now.
I’ve never quite understood the Medicare-can’t-negotiate-drug-prices argument. They’re allowed to negotiate with doctors and hospitals (quite aggressively, I might add). Why can’t they negotiate with drug companies?
Frank Probst @ 50
What’s the status of the D legislation to instate competition? I think something’s been passed by some branch, but lost track of where it stands.
Frank Probst @ 50
If they negotiated with drug companies then prices would be much lower, look at how the VA does it. It’s another corporate wellfare scheme by bushco to further line the pockets of his cronies in big pharma.
Frank Probst @ 50
Big Pharma has orders of magnitude great lobbying clout than do MDs and Hospitals.
Read Dr. John Abramson’s infuriating book “Overdo$ed America.”
.
Make that negotiation, not competition in me @ 51
allan_in_upstate @
48
LOL!
On Hardball, they’re talking about how the Prez mocked Democrats for “going on vacation” instead of staying home and working on a bill to fund his war. Would it be too much to ask for some Dem to stand up and say, “This from a President who vacationed for a week while the rest of the country watched New Orleans drown.” Why the fuck don’t they throw the mud back!
Why the fuck don’t they throw the mud back!
That is the 60 million dollar question.
eCAHNomics @ 51
Nancy got the requirement to negotiate passed, but the Senate is (I read somewhere) reluctant to take it up.
tbsa @ 57
Or why Bush stayed on vacation while Al Qaeda’s plans to attack America were becoming so painfully obvious that it wasn’t a matter of if, but how soon, the attack would come.
ironranger @ 45
Great area. I have rootz around there myself.
Ann in AZ @ 56
Petulant Pissy Boy can stick it up his arse, where it’ll give him a brain aneurism that might raise his IQ into the integer range.
.
I’d like to see a revival of some community drug programs that Shrubco’s Justice Dept shut down. Cities were buying drugs and also there were scheduled trips to Canada and some alternative pharmacies.
BobbyG @ 61
Yeah! It worked for Andrew Sullivan!
Speaking of shills who never go away, NPR (I think it was on the World) had on Dan Goure of the Lexington Institute warning “both” sides about the dangers of not funding the troops. Goure who once worked for Scooter Libby and delivered a paean to his former boss the day he was convicted of perjury and obstruction of justice can hardly be considered impartial. Yet NPR does not identify him as a neocon, his ties to PNAC, nor his connection to Libby.
I wish either that NPR would ditch these so-called impartial partisans or at a minimum tell us who they are. It’s called transparency, NPR.
Man in the Mists @ 14
Funny correction —
Q: What’s the difference between a College Republican and a toilet?
A: After you use it, the toilet doesn’t follow you around…
And by the way? We DID fund the troops! WE”RE not the ones dickin’ around here!
conniptionfit @ 58 says: Nancy got the requirement to negotiate passed, but the Senate is (I read somewhere) reluctant to take it up.”
Read: Mitch McConnell, R-Big Business (KY), aka Mr. Elaine Chao, The Chimpy’s so-called “Secretary of Labor.”
Fox guarding the hen house anyone?
Ann in AZ @ 56
They don’t need to. They know that they’re going to pass their bill and Bush is going to veto it. They know that Bush is going to look awful doing it, because there’s no way that he can spin the vetoing of an Iraq funding bill. Pelosi and Reid are going to be able to come back from vacation, pass the bill, and say, “The President wanted a bill to fund his Iraq war, and were proud to say we’ve given it to him.” Then Bush is going to veto it. Then we’ll review other bills that Bush vetoed (stem cells, for one, and…well, he hasn’t vetoed anything else, has he?). Bush is going to throw a bunch of petulant tantrums, which the people are going to ignore. Why would anyone take time out of their vacation to mess with this storyline?
xyz: we like it. Today, not so much. Snowing since this am.
Looking for an opinion. My mother in law has part D(a more expensive version). She will never use this and could probably afford to pay out of pocket.
Should people like that just ditch Part D or is she helping someone else. If a lot of people get out, will the program collapse? Would that be a good thing?
Waves to ironranger from North Dakota)
*xyz @ 60
I also hail from da Range :-)
I love that Ol’ Harry came out and said, in essence, Bush better sign that bill, ’cause our next bill is going to outright strip the Iraq war funding by 2008. Take it or leave it, boy!
tbsa @ 57
Yeah! Who are these paid professional punching bags the MSM trotts out as Democratic spokemen? Put Jane, Christy, or T-REX on to debate the issues. Tweety gets me SO mad! I knew I never should have given up studying religon! Just a dang few credits shy of being able to make my own Vodoo Dolls!
*xyz @ 60
My mother grew up on a farm near Zim — it has now gone back to wilderness.
Medicare Part D was always a scam for the benefit of Big Pharma and the insurance companies. With its doughnut holes, multiple complicated bewildering plans, and prohibition against negotiating prices, Dick Durbin likened it to elder abuse.
This is also the bill where in June 2003 Richard S. Foster, chief actuary for the Medicare program was ordered not to report to Congress that its costs would be substantially higher than previously claimed.
It is also where on November 22, 2003, it passed in the House (220-215) at 6 AM after the vote was held open for 3 hours to allow for sufficient arm twisting after an initial count showed it losing (216-218).
Hey wini, only another ironranger would say ‘da range’.
things come undone @ 73
Now THAT’S what we need! The Christy and Jane Show! But probably not what Christy and Jane need.
conniptionfit @ 72
He also basically said the funding for the troops was included in the bill and if bush vetoed it, it would be him not funding the troops.
ironranger @ 76
You are correct! However, I don’t know if I’ve ever used it before… it just seemed appropriate
tbsa @ 78
Yeah, well he needs to say that louder and more often
wini: people used to say “da range’ a lot. I saved a button from the 70’s that says “I’m from da range”. Some fund raiser in high school.
ck: I know Zim from traveling to peewee & little league games with the kids. Baseball fields way out in the countryside all over ‘da Range’.
Hugh @ 75– it is a scam and Tom Scully and Tommy Thompson were at the helm! This from 2004.
Where are they now? One is running for the Repug nomination and the other escaped seemingly unscathed.
http://govexec.com/dailyfed/0404/040904nj1.htm
somebody needs to re-open the investigation.
I remember the Scully thing & Delay cracking his whip on the floor to push through the drug plan bill. Some Republican Rep said he was basically bribed & then recanted (the thugs were promising to support his son’s run for office). There was a lot of scamming going on with this whole deal. 60 minutes needs to do a series.
Cafferty just read my email on air, but mispelled my first name.
conniptionfit @ 77
Yes! we could put actors on opposite them who could pretend to be Republicans and misrepresent the GOP postion and take a guaranteed dive at the end of the show just like in Profesional Wrestling and Fox News! Fox News keeps Pretending to put Democrats on opposite O’Reily and Hannity. I’m sure we could do the same! Just manufacture a few Sterotype GOP characters complete with resumes from phony GOP groups that are really Agent Provocuters funded by shell companies to disguise their liberal funding. You know just copy what Scaifre and Fox News did when they found all those blond girl pundits to put on TV to comment about Clinton and Monica! Oh God! Ann Coulter and fiends! er… friends 90’s flashback talk about some women WHO SHOULD NOT BE ON A POLE! How do you tell the difference between an Anorexic Crazy pole dancer and a Crazy Crack Head Junkie Thin pole dancer? One watches her weight and the other one watches Fox! (I am sorry if any crack heads are offended)
Heads up! Here’s a link to a new thread.
eCAHNomics @
84
1) which one was yours?
2) do you get a free coffee mug?
angie @ 82
Not enough! Any lobbying firm that hires this turd should be banned from the hill! Now that the Dems are in control if the Dems don’t start choking turds who lie to Congress to push bushie lies then people will keep walking all over them!
Frank Probst @ 50
Just in case anyone missed the 60 Minutes piece on CBS, it’s available here.
Here in SF, I’ve started calling KQED’s underwriters (with retail presence) in real time to object to the neo-con content on NPR. NPR makes it easy (in SF with KQED; in LA with KCRW) to use community values against NPR National News.
NPR’s neocons are thick with the gay bashers and homophobic think tanks because – well -the neocons seem to be the most repressed group of closet cases on the planet. SO the gay-bashing quotes are low-hanging fruit – hardest part is deciding which evil quote to tie around a given commenter’s neck.
One manager – while I was on the phone – called the owner’s partner at home. “Girl, we’ve got a problem with the NPR gaybashers.”
No more KQED money from them – until the “fag-bashers are off the air”
LA and SF both have small NPR stations (KPCC in LA; KALW in SF) that carry the National News. The usual threat (No donation = no NPR) doesn’t work in LA or SF.
NPR stations pay to broadcast NPR National News program according to membership – so the “flagship” stations in the big markets provide disproportionate funding of NPR National News.
Here in SF, KQED foolishly pushed listener/subscribers to abandon their oversight of KQED.
So sorry, KQED/NPR – let us know when the camapaign targeting your flagship stations’ local business underwriters begins to hurt.
Or confront NPR National News and force the neo-cons out of the commenter’s role at NPR.
Your choice.
Until then -
who else on the Lake lives in progressive areas with multiple NPR stations broadcasting NPR National News?
Business underwriters HATE controversy.
(and if anyone has the tech skills to send this to Mr. Kline at NPR, please feel free.)
[ps - This is not about conveying information. This is about who tells the audience what the information signifies. So long as NPR National News chooses to refract raw information through the neo-cons, I’ll be working to hurt their flagship stations’ funding base.]
Hugh @ 64
re: “why can’t they negotiate drug prices?”
because if they did, they wouldn’t be able to charge the Fed $140 for a $3 pill.
Wasn’t Frist behind that whole bucket of BS, getting the deal slipped through back when he was a somebody? Publicly presenting a ‘Compassionate Conservative’ program for seniors while quietly transmutating it into a Pharma handout for his homeboys? I also seem to remember it all happening just about when some Bush scandal was heating up (which one, it’s impossible to recall).
Frank Probst @ 68
Because if they’d throw some of this crap back at him once in a while, maybe he’d shut his damned mouth! Several times a day, it seems I hear the Prez lobbing mud at Dems for things that either he or his cohorts have done themselves. That’s everything from criticizing the “pork” attached to the Iraq funding bill, when he never said a word about the $50M bridge to nowhere in the Transportation bill, to criticizing Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Syria (when he was asked by the press) but never saying that he’s aware of several Republican representatives also visiting Syria. You can let him get by with it on your theory, or you can throw it back at him and let him know your not going to take his BS anymore. Your choice!
When I look at that picture, I think the pole doesn’t look so bad either…or the girl on it. :p
:)
Seems as though Amy Ridenour may be seeing a lot of poles – rather closely spaced ones.
from Wampum:
As I was complaining about AARP earlier and their craven role in selling out the best interests of their members, I wished there was something else and then I remembered
http://www.graypanthers.org/
and of course as great as ever
Are you now, or have you ever been a Loyal Bushie?