Funny how sometimes your memory can cough up a huge piece of the puzzle when you least expect it. I was reading through some work that Digby did over the weekend on the dirty tricks squad of oppo goons in Rove's Republican hack shop, when this persistent bit of information just leapt out at me and…whammo!:
Since rumors began circulating that Kasey Warner was leaving his federal post, the reasons suggested for his departure have included everything from an e-mail linking him to a political campaign to the fact that Warner is related to two other prominent Republicans, brothers Kris Warner, who resigned this year as chairman of the West Virginia Republican Party, and Monty Warner, the failed 2004 Republican gubernatorial nominee.
Attempts to contact Kasey Warner were unsuccessful.
Craigo told The State Journal that just before the 2002 general election, the state Republican Party began circulating press releases indicating that Craigo was under federal investigation. The press quickly picked up the story, and Craigo lost.
Now, two and a half years later, both Warners are out of their positions, and Craigo spoke about what he has learned since 2002.
Apparently, Lisa Smith's brother, who does not live in West Virginia, contacted Craigo and, "he said there was a connection" between Kris' goal of ousting Craigo and Kasey's position as U.S. attorney. When Kris Warner couldn't raise enough money for Smith's campaign, Craigo said the federal investigation rumors began.
"Kris supposedly spoke to a Wood County Republican rally and told them what was going to happen — the federal investigation — that it was going to occur before it even happened," Craigo said. "How else would he know that?"
Craigo has other evidence that the federal investigation, which turned up nothing, was a political move brought on by the Warners.
West Virginia politics has a history of backhanded, smarmy political maneuvers, and we have had our share of crooks and smarm merchants in both parties through the years. So trust me when I say that politics in my state is still done the old-fashioned way on soooooooo many levels. But the Warner brothers brought a whole new level of political ops to the mix and rumor has it, Kris Warner – ousted GOP state party chair – was willing to do pretty much anything asked of him by Karl Rove. And I do mean anything.
I was thinking about Kasey Warner having been ushered out of his USAtty position in the Southern District of WV just the other day. I knew all about the backroom machinations rumors, and that the Warner name had become radioactive in Republican politics here, which was, supposedly, the rationale for asking Kasey Warner to step down from his USAtty position. (And how would you like to be asked to leave your cushy Federal job because your brother caused such a stink with his election activities that the FEC had to step into the mix? Nothing like publicly embarassing the Bush campaign at the last minute before the election to endear you to Karl Rove, eh? Because he sure isn't the sort to get even with you for making a mistake…no siree. Of course, it isn't the dirty tricks that were the problem — it was getting caught.)
But it wasn't until Digby's article that I put two and two together on the Craigo investigation, and all the rumors of dirty tricks that surrounded that particular investigation.
And again, what were the Pat Robertson' U grad Goodling's primary qualifications before joining the Department of Justice? She worked with Barbara Comstock and Timothy Griffin (the US Attorney from Arkansas who Rove pushed through under the patriot act) at the Bush Cheney oppo research department in 2000.
It doesn't automatically make her a criminal, but it sure stinks of unethical politicization of the Justice Department.
I heard Orrin Hatch filibuster for what seemed like hours this morning on Meet the Press about how there wasn't a "shred of evidence" that there was any wrongdoing. Well, except for the totally unethical phone calls by Domenichi and Iglesias and the US Attorneys' publicly stated suspicion that they were let go for partisan political reasons, I suppose not. But they need to lay off the tequila if they actually expect to get the benefit of the doubt about their good intentions after they populated the Justice Department with dirty tricksters in extremely sensitive jobs.
Many of us were told to pipe down when we complained that the Justice Department and the NSA had been involved in spying on Americans with no oversight. But now that we know that Barbara Comstock, Monica Goodling and Tim Griffin, Karl Rove's personal smear artists, were promoted to the highest reaches of the federal police agencies with access to records on their political opponents and every other American, then it's clear that we weren't suspicious enough. At this point, I think we have to assume that with these people in charge and having the use of all the new powers of the Patriot Act, there have been no limits at all on the partisan, political use of the government's investigative powers.
I am no longer confused about why Monica Goodling took the fifth. I have little doubt that there are many crimes that took place and she's not taking any chances. This is bigger than the US Attorney scandal.
Pach talked about Goodling as well on Saturday, and it is worth noting that Barbara Comstock just keeps turning up amidst the fetid swampland of Republican dirty tricksters. But it was this ongoing pattern of behavior, and one that happened in my own backyard, that caught my eye in one of the pieces that Digby quoted.
And then…bing!…that light went on about all the rumors of Rove's shop pressuring USAtty offices to target local and state officials who had the ability to do voter turnout and other crucial party infrastructure work. And how distracting a criminal prosecution on a political corruption charge could be — not just for that one person, but for the entire party apparatus in a heavily Democratic voting area. And now I've begun to wonder just how many more of these individual links there are out there to fit into the pattern of corruption.
Real election fraud or political corruption needs to be targeted to the fullest extent of the law. But a charge which is trumped up, for publicity purposes, right before an election? That's political corruption of a whole different sort, now isn't it? Let's take a little time and search our collective memories today — and see what we can all dig up from our own back yards. Because I am sensing, in a very sincere and substantial way, that there are a whole lot of political corruption skeletons that need to come out of the closet. How about you guys?
(And in case you are wondering: when you look at the electoral map, WV is a "leans blue" state, which puts it firmly into play in Karl's version of "the math.")
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This is like putting together a puzzle filled with blue sky pieces — you know they all go together somehow, but it takes sooooo long to find the ones that match.
I’d say the USAs is the enforcement division of the, “vast far right wing conspiracy”. Excellent post. I wonder if there’s anything going on here in Hawaii…
And how distracting a criminal prosecution on a political corruption charge could be — not just for that one person, but for the entire party apparatus in a heavily Democratic voting area.
Or in red states. Our state senate changed hands from GOP-dominated to coalition-dominated in November. Mostly, this was due to the legislative scandal centered – at least at election time – around GOP State Senate President Ben Stevens, son of St. Ted of the North.
The investigation, now in the hands of Alice Fisher’s office, seems to be, uh, uh, stalled.
Christy Hardin Smith for U.S. House!
I don’t know if it has been noted before but the Supreme Court declined to hear a case challenging the lack of habeas access to the federal courts by Guantanamo detainess. The description of the case seemed confused to me.
Apparently the government argued that detainees can’t challenge until their cases have been reviewed by the military tribunals set up in Guantanamo. Since in the vast majority of cases this has not happened even after 5 years of detention, it seems to me that the SCOTUS is giving de facto backing to the Military Commissions Act while still leaving the door open for some future review. I hope a clearer analysis shows up somewhere soon.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin…..ref=slogin
Peterr @ 3
It helps if none of the pieces are missing. And I wouldn’t put it past Rove (and his good buddy Hatch) to make sure some of them get lost and stay that way.
Recall that looseheadprop has responded to my questions about the number of USA’s who’ve been “changed”…it is NOT just the Gonzales 8, but many more throughout the entire Bush Administration.
Another example that I didn’t uncover until I started looking into Chiara in Michigan was Jeffrey Collins in Michigan’s Eastern District. He “stepped down” for a job in the private sector. Collins, a former Michigan Appeals Court Judge, left his position within the year after the USDOJ filed two consent decrees closing the USDOJ’s pattern or practice investigation into the Detroit Police Department. Collins was the second African-American U.S. Attorney in Michigan as well.
Collins did not make even half of his 4 year term, and left well before the election, in August of 2004.
The Eastern Michigan District includes Detroit, Flint and Saginaw. Detroit is the 11th largest city in the U.S., and is more than 81% African-American. The City of Flint is approximately 53% African-American.
By contrast, Chiara’s district is nearly the polar opposite demographically of the Detroit area — but it has the largest number of Native Americans and tribes east of the Mississippi.
And Michigan is a swing-state, home to a handful of seats that are considered competitive in 2008.
This is not a isolated example. By my count there were more than 23 USA’s that stepped down, were moved out, and so on. Each one needs careful evaluation and monitoring.
We do have a cheat sheet that came to us via Waxman’s Oversight role, and via an unlikely route. Lurita Doan, a female minority voter, allowed Rove’s underling Scott Jennings give a PowerPoint presentation at GSA; the slides clearly show which seats the Repugs believe are now in contention, and they are the ones in which we very much need to screen the efforts of the U.S. Attorneys, Assistant U.S. Attorneys, and the interim or replacement U.S. Attorneys for their efforts in regards to so-called “voter fraud”.
We know that the bushies were use non goverment e-mail systems , to do thier dirty deeds
MY question is ???? does the NSA have the goods And just when will the truth come out (never has ever),but sum i hope
To all the people who voted for this potus(bush)HE”S NOT a god fearing person,,, you have been USED get over it
Tangential to the post but I was blown away by how much time Russert gave to Hatch Sunday. He had 3/1 over Leahy. It really was about as outrageous as I’ve seen on that show which has been pretty outrageous.
My guess about Goodling is that when she told Akin Gump about her status, they told her she had criminal exposure, and they are now angling for immunity.
Any ideas whether there are back channel chats with a profer?
Giving up Alberto will not be enough, since he is already in the bag. I sure would like to see her give up Rove.
Hugh @ 6 –
once again, marty lederman at balkinization to the rescue with an analysis of the SCOTUS ruling:
i only quote the first paragraph here…
Oy. (Can you say oy during Holy Week?)
There are times when I digest this fetid swamp of un-American Republican power grabbing and wonder when they were going to get around to simply declaring the Democratic Party and enemy of the state. It is, after all, what they spent the last 6 years saying in the political arena.
I am getting paranoid enough to think that the USA scandal was an attempt to criminalize the opposition – not for their opposition, of course, but for their myriad other crimes.
As Miss America says in Fielding Melish’s trial in Bananas, “Differences of opinion should be tolerated, but not when they are too different. Then you become a subversive mutha.”
Re: Rove. From the NYTimes editorial yesterday:
I just told HoKu my opinion on MCRove. He didn’t think it was a big deal:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01526.html
albert fall @
10
To me, it is more likely that Goodling’s attorneys will be scooped up by an apparatus similar to the one which ran the Scooter through his legal ordeal – a legal defense fund headed by a Comstockesque DC insider, with contributions coming in from all parts of the red spectrum, including fungelicals, Goodling’s natural funding consituency. I’m betting on her keeping her yap shut after watching Hatch last Sunday. That’s exactly what he was signalling to her.
realworld @ 10
But only 1/3 of Hatch’s comments were thoughts not previously expressed. (How many times did the phrase “not a shred of evidence” tumble from his lips?)
Normally, I think you’re right, but sometimes I think it’s better to be simple and brief instead of a sputtering moron, which is how Hatch came across. In this case, I thought he just kept wrapping rope around his neck.
The scope of this just takes my breath away. If I think too hard and long on any one of these little Rovian generated “tricks” my brain starts to melt.
I’ve been called naive for my faith in people to ultimately do what is right. It is either that or fall into the black morass where the Comstocks, Goodlings, Roves, Dobsons, et al, reside.
re: Hatch on MTP
has anyone been able to verify his claim of Carol Lam working as ‘S. California Campaign Manager for Clinton’
something like that should have been easily verifiable, yet I’ve found nothing
Mr. Redshift to the Google Courtesy telephone please !
No wonder the noise machines are being cranked up, with claims of Democrats’ “overreaching” and “fishing expeditions” and that the investigations will come back to bite them. The entire Republican party is beginning to realize that the lid’s being slowly removed on their nationwide subversion, that there will finally be some accountability, and they’re terrified of that. It’s not just Gonzales, Cheney, Rove and the Bush administration that’ll fall. The Party itself will be discredited and weakened.
At some tipping point, the MSM will get it, bail out to save their own credibility hides, and join the blogs.
It’s not enough to bring this administration down. We’ll be having to clean up this mess for years, paying down the debt, rooting out incompetent toadies, and repairing our ruined international reputation.
It’s not enough for our political opposition to spend some time in the wilderness. What needs to happen as a result of (at least) the last 15 years is the annihilation of the Republican party as we know it. They are genuinely bent on the complete co-option of our institutions of government purely for political gain, and must be negated as a political entity.
selise @ 12
Thanks for the link. I’ll go look. Still they dodged a pretty fundamental question and in doing so have left the DTA and the MCA intact, for now. I mean seriously what do they need to know to rule on the most basic principle in the law?
cbl @ 19
No, but her wiki did indicate another Hatch lie. He said she had been an academic with no prosecutorial experience. But it turns out that’s all she did since law school.
I’m reminded of the fire ants that Cindy Sheehan and the Crawford encampment had to endure. She said that when they get on you they all seem to bite at the same time.
Taste of their own medicine time I think.
fyi– WH press briefing on cspan now.
after that @ 1:19 EDT there is supposed to be a discussion with Amy Goodman and others on the “Conflict in Iraq”.
Peterr @ 3
Yes, but when you finally do fit allthe pieces together, what a sense of accomplishment!
Remember something else, these USA’s who were on the recieving end of pressure, many of them had no way of knowing that there was a broader pattern going on.
Coupled with the subtle way we have seen that said pressure was applied, although many might have had misgivings, it is likely thay lacked the confidence based upon a belief that a clearly marked line had been crossed.
Remember, Inglessias (obvioulsy no woosy) did not feel confident enough to report Wilson and Domenici’s interference until AFTER he saw the pattern emerge.
I know we worry about the USA’s who may have gone along to get along, but i also wonder how many of them did not realize until it was too late that they had been tricked and manipulated?
Thanks Rayne. I’m not sure about the particulars here but you seem to have the michigan angle nailed.
I can tell you that the Chiara story has been relegated off the front page. At least until something more relavent to the admin itself comes out. So for now, the spin mongers have it.
Rayne @ 8
Rayne, you amaze me more and more each day.
SubwaySerenade @ 24
Fire Ants. That is a good image. Living in an area where they are quite common, especially after the heavy rains we’ve had, they are popping up all over. They are not “nice” creatures to have around, but now that you mention it, they do have a proven survival technique. I will now think of myself as part of the Fire Ant Brigade helping to rid our country of the ultimate menace – Karl Rove.
The levee is indeed breaking.
Nice job, Christy.
Yeah. But it’s not just Repugnican corruption. The case that Iglesias was fired (for not getting it together in time to help Heather) was released Friday. Former State Senate President Pro-temp Manny Aragon, a big-time D power-broker here in The Land of Enchantment was indicted for accepting (and arranging for) bribes associated with the Albuquerque Metro Courthouse. The cost-overruns on that palace doubled its price.
Why did it take Iglesias so long? Because it seems that he took the time to do the job right. He started with the little fish and worked his way up to Aragon. It also explains why Aragon suddenly left his job as President of New Mexico Highlands University. I’m sure some FBI-types showed up at the school to scrutinize Aragon’s financial dealings with the school.
We needed Aragon caught. The popular opinion here was that they’d never catch him. Popular opinion was wrong — it’s a damned shame that the loyal Bushies took something that needed doing and tried to make political hay with it. Isn’t it enough to do the job, and do it well?
BC
Who wrote the minority opinion on the CO2 case? Is it available yet?
Thanks for picking up on Digby’s post, Christy.
Our awareness of the scale and reach and depth of the antidemocratic abuses is more and more staggering daily.
The best line is the one quoted in the Politico last month:
Because the malfeasance is so enormous, politicians will begin to quake in their boots. The Dems should have been screaming for the last 6 years, even without subpoena power. They didn’t, and they are going to get motion sickness with the pace of the investigations now opening up.
We need to keep the information and the pointed questions and the encouragement going. Certainly the MSM are not going to like being held accountable for the coverups of the last 6 years.
FDL and TPM and our favorite friendly blogs must stand firm.
You are the best, Christy.
Mutant Poodle @ 17
Hatch and his Federalist Society are in it up to there eyeballs. Bret Tolhman is now USA of Utah wa the crony who did the Patriot act thing behind Specters back (Probably not, but it was part of the price to maintain his chairmanship.) The thing missing in this puzzle is the Judges. A lot of the document dumps contain the name John Nowacki. He is one very interesting person in the chain of events. Not much exposure out there for him. The white house is expressly trying to limit discussion and avoid the judicial appointments.
Wonder why?
Ed*ard Teller @
32
I left this for you last thread– I think you’ll find it here
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/…..inion.html
aliasofwestgate @ 27
Not as long as there’s FireDogLake, MichiganLiberal.com, and you and me and the folks at ePluribusMedia.org’s Community. We are still on it.
Do you have a userid at MichiganLiberal? You should, you know a lot more about MI politics than a lot of folks do.
cbl @ 19
The Google turns up no web pages or recent news stories connecting Carol Lam and Clinton. If “campaign manager” is included, the only results are ones where the three elements are unrelated but happen to be on the same page, and as search for just “Carol Lam” and “Clinton” turns up stories about the bogus “Clinton fired all 93″ right-wing talking point.
So I think it’s a good bet it’s complete BS. Should be interesting to watch whether it starts appearing in wingnut talking points.
angie @
35
Gracias!
I have to believe they have been pressuring federal judges to resign in order to install their little favorites, just as with US Attorneys.
And who knows what kind of pressure they are putting on judges in individual cases, like tobacco? Insisting on the use of flawed jury instructions is the very tip of the iceberg. Time to examine the rest.
Mutant Poodle @ 13
Only if you speak Yiddish.
BC.
[Modnote: please take care to close quotes using the “/” thanks]
Rayne @ 36
I should. *laughs* I met LiberalLucy at the West MI meetup we had there in the winter. I’ve been stalling on that because of issues i want to cover. But i have to be careful about with my job. I’m a minion in a retail pharmacy chain. The things i’d love to expose about insurances? Would pretty much garuntee i’d loose my job, even if i didnt’ violate the HIPAA acts. (which i wouldn’t do) The one thing i do know for sure is how much the insurances and BigPharma are hurting everyone and anyone.
My 2c from previous thread…
What the media/white house/congress/house etc are missing with all their ’spin’ IS;
The trial of these people has already started, they ARE being judged by their ‘peers’, just not in only one location.
Each day more people (americans and the interested) are aware of MORE facts, MORE secret conversations, MORE deliberately hidden actions, MORE hidden truths.
We already know there was a deliberate covering up of these peoples actions, this has been proven.
‘Everybody’ is saying ‘We can’t impeach them’ HELLO….
These are ‘PEOPLE’ committing known and suspected criminal acts..READ THEM THEIR RIGHTS, CHARGE THEM, ARREST THEM..
peace.
Carol Lam was at the door of the former Number Three at the CIA and had already convicted Randy Cunning ham. Obviously she’s a political hack, like that Plame dame…
Ed*ard Teller @ 32
Roberts wrote the minority opinion. One guess who the other three were. (Roberts got hung up in whether any state would have standing, what exactly the damage was, etc. ‘Looking at trees and missing the entire f*cking forest’ is how I would describe it.)
Rayne @ 8
According to Indian Country Today, Chiara was doing a really good job of working with the tribes to deal with crime in Indian Country. Yet another case where the good of the people was tossed aside in favor of power grabs and political hackery.
From last thread:
Biodun @ 131
During the last election, just the hint of any kind of wrongdoing on the part of a Dem candidate seemed to be enough to set off a backlash from the citizens of Arizona, regardless of the truth and regardless of the timing. Pederson, the Dem candidate for Senator against Kyl, was smarmed by repugnicans by their stating that he perjured himself in his bankruptcy case from 20 years ago. It was not true, but the people here believed it, because they don’t know enough to distinguish between a personal bankruptcy and a corporate bankruptcy (Pederson’s first company failed and there was a bankruptcy filing.) No matter how much he tried to justify the truth of what happened, people held the fact that he picked himself up and subsequently made a fortune as enough evidence to constitute corruption on his part. I have no idea why he didn’t fight back by saying again and again that at least he didn’t try to lie to the Supreme Court, but he didn’t seem to use this tactic much, if at all. Now we’re stuck with six years of Kyl. All I can do is shake my head and say WTF!
Does anyone besides me think we should be pushing for cleansing the MSM by restoring the Fairness Doctrine and limiting ownership of media outlets to one in each community?
I’m really tired of Clear Channel’s proliferation across the land. They’ve ruined our local radio stations, to the point that I barely listen anymore.
aliasofwestgate@41.
A roll of 2in cloth surgical tape which retails at CVS for $4.99 is invoiced on my wife’s insurance bill at $14.
They must have learned it from the Pentagon.
looseheadprop @ 28
Thanks, lhp, I appreciate all the breadcrumbs you’ve left on the trail because they have very much helped keep me on this.
Wished I could have caught up with you last night; had a local Dem organization meeting with other senior members, at which a long-time state party official spoke about the history of the party. While their knowledge was exhaustive, I could see they weren’t making the connection between localized politics and the national politics of the Republican Party. You can see it from where you are, can articulate the connection. And you could tell them what was what with the judiciary — because we definitely have a problem here, one justice has been speaking out.
In Michigan there is a financial crisis of epic proportions. The Republicans who hold the state legislature’s majority are being obstructionists, and they are surely doing so with the support of Dick DeVos and the Prince family (in the top 20 Repug donors and Blackwater founders). It all looks very, very local, like a Michigan-only problem…
But it’s not; they are putting the screws to a Democratic governor and a new Dem majority in one arm of the legislature, and they are trying very hard to make somebody crack so that they can gin up a scandal. In jump the Bushie law enforcement and off they go. It’s happening, right under our noses, only the average Michigander can’t see this for what it is because 90% of the newspapers in state are owned by right-wing outlets, as are the television and radio stations.
This is surely happening in other swing states, with the topic being something other than the budget depending on the state. The worst part of this is that this is a decades’ long problem to be fixed if they’ve already stacked the bench.
P J Evans @
44
Roberts and Alito were put on the high court more for their record on corporate rights and lack of sympathy for labor, little people, etc than for their ardent Christianity.
BillE @ 34
Hatch and his Federalist Society are in it up to there eyeballs. Bret Tolhman is now USA of Utah wa the crony who did the Patriot act thing behind Specters back (Probably not, but it was part of the price to maintain his chairmanship.) The thing missing in this puzzle is the Judges. A lot of the document dumps contain the name John Nowacki. He is one very interesting person in the chain of events. Not much exposure out there for him. The white house is expressly trying to limit discussion and avoid the judicial appointments.
Wonder why?
Also, please note that Kyle Sampson said that the discussions about firing the USA’s were had at the end to the WEEKLY White House Judicial Selection Committee meetings held in the Roosevelt Room.
Weekly, high level meetings, at the WH. Why? has the WH proposed many judges since the famous stalemate that Chuck Schumer created and sustained during the first term?
This is why despite everything else you all don’t like about Chuck, I’m still a fan. Chuck kept them from just totally packing the bench with “Bushies”.
But, if the WH stopped proposing nominees for the bench b/c Chuck would kill them in Committee, why oh why, did they still need weekly meetings?
What could they possibly have to discuss that required a high level WH meeting EVERY WEEK?
So much many more sky blue jigsaw puzzlw pieces. Sigh.
aliasofwestgate @ 41
You want me to be a “leaker”? I can do that. Bet Lucy would, too. ;-)
And then you could comment all you want in those threads. Heh.
Bargain Countertenor – are you in NM? The politics of that state have stunk for a long, long time. Too small and incestuous a ruling class. I think the R’s are just Johnny-come-latelies to the
troughparty.Hatch is in a way responsible for the first Space Shuttle
disaster. He made sure Morten Theiokol, outside of
SLC got the contract for the solid rocket boosters. Since they were in the Utah desert, they had to be broken into
parts to fit on rail cars to FL. The engineers always wanted the boosters to be one tube built in Huntsville,
put on a barge to be delivered to Cape Canaveral. Hence
no O-rings, no leaks, no explosion. Regan and Hatch
politics trumps science, engineering, truth, justice,
American Way. I think the charred remains of the Columbia is plenty of evidence, Orrin.
egregious @ 39
Don’t forget, during the first term, there were federal judges making pleas for help to bar associations, saying that the federal judiciary was under attack and judicial ethics rules prevented the judges from defending themselves or speaking out.
I’m sorry, but longtime repsected federal judges do not get up in the middle of some scripted event and go off like that unless they are desperate.
Brisingamen @ 48
Absolutely. I posted this on Hugh’s thread on MSM on Saturday, now with an emendation.
And don’t forget that all of electronic MSM is under the aegis of multinational corporations:
CBS: Viacom
NBC: General Electric
ABC: Disney
CNN: TimeWarner
MSNBC: NBC: General Electric
Fox: News Corporation
Note that with the exception of GE, all these multinationals produce entertainment, which is what MSM news has become for almost three decades now.
In MSM, the entertainment divisions have completely locked up the news divisions.
Mutant Poodle@ 13. It is ironic that you state what you do because I went to sleep with the realization last night that that is exactly what has been going on. I should note that I am a moderate Republican, but I am a strong believer in a free press, an ethical justice system, and real elections — none of which exist any longer! The Republican party has bought the MSM through corporate connections. That explains why there has been little or no real coverage of what is going on behind the scenes. Our justice system has been “gamed” to provide the desired outcomes. As for real elections? I strongly suspect that Rove has had a major influence on the 1% solution to provide a Republican majority.
It is sad to see it all happening. I have written numerous communications to my senators and congresspeople (in Texas, no less!), and they all seem to be in lockstep with Mr. Bush. For such seemingly intelligent people, we sure have a lot of dunces running the country.
There’s USA Mary Beth Buchanan in Pittsburgh.
From KDKA-TV
At the same time, questions about Santorum’s residency didn’t get much of her attention. Here’s a comment from a former assistant USA during the Clinton administration, Thomas Ferrell:
I know this got some attention at Talking Points Memo, but its worth repeating here ;-)
CHS:
“That’s political corruption of a whole different sort, now isn’t it? Let’s take a little time and search our collective memories today — and see what we can all dig up from our own back yards. Because I am sensing, in a very sincere and substantial way, that there are a whole lot of political corruption skeletons that need to come out of the closet. How about you guys?”
I will say that watching from my perch up in Nova Scotia that I have been convinced of this for several years now, the patterns were all wrong for an honest system. The problem was it was something sensed as much by the absence of certain actions as it was by the taking of others, but until the inside material could be gotten a hold of it was unlikely to come out. I have long suspected that the Bush Administration in particular has used the law enforcement tools in partisan manners, indeed I have even suspected that there was use of it to blackmail those that might have caused trouble for Bushco and the GOP. I generally did not say much because I knew how tin foil hattish it seemed without any substantial evidence to support it, but now that evidence is showing up. I think you have hit upon a very important means to try and determine exactly how pervasive throughout America this has become, CHS, and I hope it yields fruit.
Debushification now!
Let it be resolved that no political appointee of the Bush administration can ever serve in the Federal Government. Ever.
Gnome de Plume @ 54
Yup, yup. We do have some progressive D’s in the state (Danice Picraux and Dede Feldman of Albuquerque, J. Paul Taylor [and his successor, Joni Gutierrez] of Mesilla come immediately to mind. There are others.) But note that when Heather was vulnerable, Patsy Madrid was the candidate. Madrid is connected to the old machine …
We’ve got lots of cleaning up to do here.
BC
P.S. And the R’s are Johnnies-come-lately here, but they learned fast.
I haven’t gotten all the way through the Roberts dissent, but the beginning seems to be the Executive and Legislative branches have looked at this and you may not like what they’ve done or how well they are doing it but that’s not our concern, and more particularly it’s not the petitioners’ concern either.
It’s basically another example of kneepad deference to the Executive.
Brisingamen @ 48
I just offered a comment on #18, but I have been wondering much the same thing! We now have corporations controlling what we hear! I am in total agreement that the ownership rules should be examined, and possible cut back again to limit the dominance any one owner can have in a single market.
Rayne @ 50
What I know about Michigan, well is nothing, but I remember being at a rather small lunch one time (maybe a d10-12 people) with David Bonyer and was struck by his ability to use the zoom in-zoom out focus in his thinking about state to national politics.
I’ve lost track of what he is doing now (academics?) but wonder if he might not be a good person to try to involve in what you are doing?
LHP — Bonior is now campaign manager for the Edwards’ campaign, last I heard.
There was a story in the LA Times this weekend about Shrub doing recess appointments of people whose nominations had been blocked already by the Senate. Seems that he’s close enough to the end of his official term that they’ll be able to stay on (if not forced out) until the next president takes office. First thought: ‘What part of ‘no’ does he not understand?’
(I don’t know if it was online Saturday or Sunday, because I saw it Saturday morning in the ‘early’ Sunday paper.)
Ann in AZ @ 47
One of the overarching problems we have to figure out how to deal with is that most people just don’t want to accept that their public officials are lying to them. Yeah, you get some muttering about how all politicians lie, but most people who say that are thinking of campaign promises and the things they say to make themselves look good, not lying about federal investigations. Modern Republicans have no shame and have played this like a fiddle.
I think it’s a good thing that people don’t like think their government is corrupt, except when it is. So other than doing what we’re doing and working to get the word out, I’m at a loss for what to do.
musicsleuth @ 59
I think we need to establish a policy right here and now that the Democratic Party expects every one of its Senate members to reject any “go along/team player” that was a U.S. Attorney under the Bush Adminstration for any position if they are nominated and subject to Senate approval.
None of them ever should hold an appointment. Period.
That goes for Buchanan especially, since her work looks like she was doing it all for Rick Santorum’s benefit.
just finished watching yet another white house presser…Wow was she (new press parrot) glad when that was finished…
looseheadprop @ 65
I have a buddy who could put me in touch with Bonior, but I’m certain Mr. Bonior is not available.
He’s campaign manager for John Edwards. ;-)
We could have a whole national or internationally based theft ring that’s moled its way into the FBI and we’d never have the slightest incling of it because of the Patriot act silencing/hiding of search warrants and other activity.
If Foggo and Cunningham et al. were into it… what makes the “smaller” stuff so unlikely?
Miro, what makes you think this isn’t happening right now?
oops, my bad. Bonior is evidently just a teensy bit busy being Edward’s Campaign manager.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_E._Bonior
I’d like to know why DOJ spokeslady Tasia Scolinos, who suggested in an email that immigration be used as the cover story for 3 firings because they were in border states, is still employed by DOJ. Also, why nobody asked Kyle Sampson about this email during his testimony.
snoboysdrift @ 55
Ooooh, the things I learn on FDL!
nothing earth shattering, but repubs seem to have a beef with oregon’s vote-by-mail system. for instance, the voter integrity project, which salon surmised is a conservative front, blasted vote by mail when it made its debut. in the 2000 elections, repubs made voter fraud accusations that the oregonian (conservative newspaper) attributed to ‘rumors.’
of course, it’s difficult to indulge in traditional polling place vote suppression shenanigans with vote by mail. cuts the gordian knot of e-voting problems, too.
Rayne @ 69
More on Atty. Farrell’s piece in the P-G:
My bolds.
A diarist at Kos has done a beautiful job of exposing the NH US attorney:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/3/12/13559/9725
kdh22 @ 76
Ooh, I think it was Alexander Cockburn yesterday on Cspan who reminded us that the NASA engineers knew it was too cold for the O-rings on that January day, yet Reagan wanted to be able to talk about the astronauts and point up to the heavens in his State of the Union speech, therefore the launch had to go forward!
There was a story floated for a day then it sank about an investigation into a big international car smuggling ring. Does anyone know if/who/anything about it. It was a local, but biggish city sort of paper that was reporting on the story.
Redshift -
thanks dear! believe I’ll give Mr. NBC News a shoutout :)
jackie @ 80
Is that the same car smuggling operation that the British sailors were looking for when they sailed into Iranian waters?
musicsleuth @ 78
And the percentage is out of whack since PA does not have the number of Middle Eastern heritage citizens that Michigan does (Dearborn is home to largest number in U.S.).
But gee, none of the races in this state were seen by Repugs as competitive except for the Governor’s race this past year…
We would do well to watch where Buchanan lands next, because she may be a bellwether.
Believe me I have my eye on First AUSA Russell Stoddard in Chiara’s former district; the guy was sent to Guam to close down Black’s Abramoff investigations, went to middle Florida next (was that about the 13th district and the screwed up voting there?). And now Michigan???
April 2nd, 2007 at 10:16 am
Redshift at #68 says:
It might also be good to put up a good, effective defense, and then use what you know to be true corruption against them. If we are unwilling or don’t have the stomach to sling some mud (true mud, of course) we better prepare ourselves to lose! Again! I’d like to see Dems stop attacks as effectively as Murtha did when he was the subject of criticism by Cheney. He simply said, “Oh, yeah, that’s what I like to hear…criticism from a guy with five deferments!”
I’ve been wondering how they got there. I think I read something about resettlement after Gulf War I?
Sparkles the Iguana @ 80
GOP: Collateral damage isn’t REALLY damage!?!
Redshift @ 68
How about a former word of the day?
This is an ongoing attempt to highjack our Republic, and it’s best we know exactly what we are fighting (the sudden part is actually the least apropos…that they have been slowly and stealthily working at it has made them that much more dangerous).
BTW the GAO came out with a report last Friday on peak oil. There’s the link via the Oildrum:
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d07283.pdf
It is entitled “CRUDE OIL: Uncertainty about Future Oil Supply Makes It Important to Develop a Strategy for Addressing a Peak and Decline in Oil Production” and is considered important because it is an acknowledgement that peak oil is real. While this hopefully will happen, I have to say that the actual content of the report is fairly lame, asserting that peak oil will occur by 2040. This is hokum. The timeframe is much more likely the next 5 to 10 years.
The IPCC, the UN body which recently released a report that human activity is the likely source of global warming, is getting together this week to hammer out a final consensus text for release Friday on the effects of global warming.
Roves Goal:
Permanent Rebublican Majority
Roves Legacy:
PERMANENT REBUBLICAN DEPRAVITY
Where are the freakin’ emails Rove?
redX @ 91
That’s for him to know and WAXMAN to find out! Hehe. It’s just a matter of time. Be patient.
#82, LOL.
No, really there was a paper covering a local/Fed investigation into ‘local’ big time international car theft/smuggling. It was a while ago, maybe a couple of years, but definitely within the last 4/5 years. Local speculation seemed to think it was dirty, had ties to Iraq of some sort or something.
Actually, I have been increasingly very concerned about this very thing ever since the dismissals of the USAs started coming out. Especially after people started pointing out suspicions of what the remaining USAs may be doing to keep their jobs.
On a related subject, though, I can’t wait to see what will come out if any congressional committee finally decides to investigate war profiteering! This should permanently sink Repugs, ‘cuz ya know, I doubt that they shuffled much funding to Democratic affiliates. My question is, when will this happen? Any predictions? Or is the committee so charged under Lieberman?
How about the investigation of Bob Menendez in the lead up to the 2006 elections.
Menedez questions timing of federal probe
jackie @ 93
I think this may be what you are talking about:
http://www.boston.com/news/wor….._bombings/
don’t know where things stand today.
OT–
Ahem. From AP:
Another “anonymous source.”
BTW — Christy, thanks for the Cheap Trick. Heh. Two gags in one, and trip down Memory Lane at the same time. A bargain!!
Saw them live in 1979, think they opened for Alice Cooper. Too. Much. Fun.
BOSTON: Republican Mitt Romney reported raising $23 million (€17.2) for his presidential campaign during the first three months of the year, outpacing Republican front-runner Rudy Giuliani. The surprising tally for a relative newcomer rivaled the total reported a day earlier by Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap…..ending.php
OT: I was trying to donate to the Roots Project, but the links to paypal don’t work. Any suggestions?
jackie — you know, that’s a good example…any of the rest of you FirePups have an example of prosecution that seemed over-zealous or rather unusual in your own backyard?
Once we take a look at an example, it often opens up other interesting questions.
Christy – o/t
I’ve been meaning to put in a request for a “maybe sometime, please” post about anti-war songs, both old and new. Several other people were commenting about such songs on an earlier morning thread so maybe there’s some interest out there.
Coming of age in the folk music era tends to leave its imprint on your head and heart. I know most of the old ones but would love any input from pups on an expanded list of both singers and songs.
ccmask @ 99
Mormon mafia?
Biodun @ 97
Well, there is no way they can avoid making it worse, because only half of the extra 21,500 troops for the “surge” have beeen sent so far. So they will continue to have to say, “we had to.”
This would probably be more appropriate on the SweetJesus thread –
Today’s 707:
I’ll have whatever she’s having
SubwaySerenade @
49
Gotta cover that overhead doncha know. I mean, all the management bonuses have to come from somewhere.
Rayne @ 83
This is a guy I would love to see subjected to Gonzales aprroved “interrogation” methods. Do you think it’s safe to say that he could single handedly blow the lid off a whole host of dirty deeds?
scarecrow,
I read your and Siun’s pieces on shopping in Baghdad and liked both. What is with shopping? Wasn’t that Bush’s advice after 911. Because as we all know if you don’t shop the terrorists win.
looseheadprop @ 107
This is a guy I would love to see subjected to Gonzales aprroved “interrogation” methods. Do you think it’s safe to say that he could single handedly blow the lid off a whole host of dirty deeds?
LHP – my feeling has been that the Black sacking was the beginning of the whole USA issue. They saw that they could get away with it and got rid of a few more. That wend relatively undetected, so they went whole hog and fired 7 at once. Is this the case, or were ther more before Guam?
Hugh @ 108
My guess = Occham’s razor: when in a market, you either shop or shop-lift. There were too many cameras for shotlifting, so . . .
Hugh — btw — interested in the SCt refusing to take the Guantanamo case. Want to see the 2 concurring ops. If you see a link to the opinion . . .
Re: shopping in Baghdad. Lindsey Graham bought some rugs for cheap:
Preposterous. Laughable. And moronic.
scarecrow @ 111
Their decision sounded like a dodge to me.
Another Repub with regrets, Vic Gold:
Rightist Indignation
As for NH, don’t need to dig very far…they just jammed the phone lines. Of course it was all an in-state plan and those folks have been convicted.
Is it a crime to have a RNC corporate SOP to wink – wink do what it takes to keep the Republican flag held high, and then whatever grass roots corruption can’t trace to the top?
There are three levels to the scandel –
one being the seeds they sow in the grass roots that really does promote something like a culture of corruption (this is the mornons how will commit crimes for free so they can better enjoy their beer when the watch Bill-o on fox).
two being the ones who play there tricks for an extra penny or vote, and who are rewarded. Or the folks who don’t play and are punished. This is at the level of a crime.
three being the ones that are specifically directed to commit a crime, I would imagine more than 50% of Americans believe crimes (most likley part of at least a moderate reaching consipiracy) were commited.
Makes me sick to think of the jerks in Ohio who would use the “law”, or create “law” to commit “legal crimes”. Example re-districting, rejecting voter registrations on light (poor mans paper), etc. I think the biggest criminals are the ones who create laws to hide their crimes or make crimes legal for their friends.
looseheadprop @
107
He definitely leaves a wake behind him, this one. And he’s one that Michigan bloggers should point to, putting him on notice.
OT — I see the FDA has now blocked the purchase of wheat gluten from the Xuzhou Anying Biologic company that provided the contaminated gluten that went into pet food.
But no bulletins from CDC or ATSDR to watch for this product inside the U.S. or for human patients with symptoms of poisoning after exposure to wheat gluten-containing products, let alone comments about the contaminated pet food.
Is this what we should expect in the event of an assault on our food supply?? Grrrr…what happened to the USA’s and to the GSA happened to nearly every agency. God help us.
looseheadprop @ 65
David Bonior is handling some portion of John Edwards’ campaign.
Rayne @ 116
Thanks ! This has been bugging me since this started. And this weekend local news reported the FDA wasn’t going to release the name of the supplier. That rang loud alarm bells for me. Wheat gluten is used in sooo many human foods today.
YouMutant Poodle @ 13
You are not dreaming in technicolor. This was the goal — at least the goal of the Gauleiter’s like Comstock and Goodling. Rove is a little more careful. This sort of criminalizing of the Democratic opposition is the bread and butter of reactionary talk radio, and it had started to creep into the TV, and I don’t just mean Fox. We were about a half dozen years away from the national Democratic Party being gutted.
and BTW looseheadprop and Rayne, you two always knock my socks off.
OT–
The Dunce would like to jump in there, but can’t for the moment:
LindyH @ 100
LindyH,
I just tried paypal and it worked ok for me. What happens when you try?
Raw Story and Ware smack Drudge!
In the second video they posted– Graham tells us that he shopped for rugs last time he was Iraq, too!
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/….._0402.html
Pence also speaks about purchasing rugs!
He says it was just like being in an open air market in Indiana in the summer.
JUSTICE STEVENS and JUSTICE KENNEDY denying certiorari is here:
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/…..tevens.pdf
JUSTICE BREYER, with whom JUSTICE SOUTER joins, and with whom JUSTICE GINSBURG joins as to Part I, dissenting from the denial of certiorari is here:
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/…..Breyer.pdf
In the dissent part I:
How much did Lindsey’s little shopping trip (McCain lying expedition) cost the US taxpayer?
[probably several hundred K per rug.]
Biodun @ 57
I caught this on our local public radio station yesterday. Hadn’t heard it before.
bill moyers speech
Elliott @ 120
Thanks, Elliott. Hey, has your spouse been following along with all the stuff that’s been coming up in re: the email addys and the IP addresses? Good stuff, think they have it all. But we know there’s more than one way to skin a cat, wouldn’t be surprised if they moved elsewhere…
Almost forgot the short name of the case is
Boumediene v. Bush.
New thread by Jane Hamsher:
De Lovely
1,474 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen Hardin Smith and the Firepup Patriots:
The coup has taken place…the 2000 election placed a fascist in the White House to consolidate corporate control through a Republic(an) Congress. The structural groundwork for this fascist takeover was set in 1981-82 but the fascists never had control of all three branches. The executive and judicial functions have been completely corrupted so any political effort within the processes established by the constitution to clean up this mess will ultimately hang on the single vote of Mr.Justice Kennedy. Now ain’t THAT a scary thought??!!
Furthermore, the corporate fascists are not gunna give up quickly and try and cut their loses in order to return again in the future as they did with Nixon. This is it, they will go down to the last day before the inauguration tryin’ ta consolidate power and expand their mechanisms of social and political control. Think about it, we don’t have a viable, announced Democratic candidate right now who will not be completely compromised by and to the big corporate donors for their election in ‘08. That is why I believe that Al Gore is holdin’ off announcin’ until this September, he needs to let the corporatists spend themselves out before the primaries and keep himself outta the line of fire of the corporate sponsored assassination media.
As long as Mrs. Clinton continues to lose strength with the Democratic base in proportion to her increase in corporate campaign contributions, Gore’s strategy is brilliant.
The corruption of our system is systematic and the infection extends to a not insignificant number of elected Democrats, so the process of getting our Republic back is not gunna be a one shot battle, it’s gunna be a series of large and fiercely contested battles. And we can not afford to lose one of ‘em or the fascists will declare victory and extend the Patriot Act in place of the Constitution.
This is the real deal folks. For those of you who have been snickerin’ at my use of the word “fascist” and are afraid to sound too shrill to be invited back to your cocktail parties… well, wake up and grow a pair a balls, they won’t letcha switch parties in the concentration camp.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION…REMEMBER THERE ARE MORE OF US THAN THERE ARE OF THEM!!!
Hugh @ 128
Thanks much for the links.
angie
thank-you, that was it.
Rayne @ 8
I think it was in Parachutec’s Post, Prostratedragon had a comment concerning an apparent coincidence between USA’s and enforcement of bankruptcy for homeowners (if I got the drift of the comment, the link didn’t work for me on the comment), who were being victumized by unscrupulose lenders here:
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..ent-598443
which might show an economic overlay to the political shenanighans as well and add to “motive” beyond just political.
It seems quite worthwhile to look into this perspective to see what substance is there. After all, their MO is to steal everything in sight and vulnerable homeowners are prime game. All the best…..
Mutant Poodle @
13
You mean, during the Passover season? Sure.
And gut yontif to all firepups in this season, whatever their inclination.
Hatch went crazy yesterday.
It was great to see him make a complete arse
of himself.
He called Goodling’s 5th Amendment ploy “gutsy”
and the scandal “a Tempest in a Teapot”
Yeah, a Teapot Dome Case…
Jack
aliasofwestgate @
41
aliasofwestgate -
My mailing address is 3450 Sacramento, San Francisco, CA, 94118. I am a voracious reader, and never reveal the origins of my reading materials.
Whistle-blowers in the private sector have so little protection; I never want a (non-wealthy) whistle-blower to risk their economic well being. Some whistle blowers, however, are able to identify documents and information known to their co-workers. With the certain knowledge the documents/info are known to others, the whistle-blower avoids being “busted” for sharing info known only to them.
Whistle blowers who send documents will often use postal kiosks (no cameras to record entry/exit). If the kiosk has an ATM-style security camera in a console, whistle-blowers will make an innocuous stamp purchase and drive off to find another.
Competent whistle-blowers don’t send out documents under their own name and return address.
Many whistle-blowers are not comfortable sending US mail with spoofed return addresses.
Privately operated “mailbox” shops – while they cost more than regular UPS – also offer a way to send off a pack of documents without leaving a traceable real name/address.
I love taking down the insurance/RX “benefit” scam.
Anyone who receives whistle-blower documents needs to immediately destroy the cover mailer, copy the originals, and secure the originals outside of their known physical addresses (or destroy the originals, should the whistle-blower so desire).
Copies – with any possible info ID’ing the whistleblower redacted – are then recopied (redactions – when Xeroxed – are really redacted).
No competent whistleblower would violate HIPAA, and I would never retain, copy, or disseminate any documents infringing on HIPAA (or patients’ personal privacy) sent to me in error.
The recopied redacted documents can then be used without possibility of direct tracing to source via DNA/fingerprinting.
Bu the way, The Bay Area has some excellent activists taking down the health “insurance”/RX “benefit” megacorps.
Thanks you for seeing the problem so clearly. Please protect your economic life.
I have no reason to believe you personally would send any documents. Should you ever meet someone who is so inclined, the brief outline above may provide practical tips.
3450 Sacramento, SF, CA 94118
A bit OT. While listening to the weasel testify before the house committee last week, I was reminded of the many incidents during the 60s/70s when parents would kidnap their their own kids and hire experts to deprogram them. I’m amazed at the vastness of the current conspiracy. Do they all need deprogramming?
AZ Dawn @
137
Interesting that one of the main cults the parents were kidnapping their kids from was from the “Moonies”…who now own and control the Washington times and with whom W’s brother has recently done business. Apparently, his agenda was to create loyal “warriors” to fight North Korea. I’d like to see their e-mail accounts.
scarecrow @ 95
I’ve been wondering about this myself. Seems to me I heard the USA in NJ who brought the “investigation” is vintage Republicon slime. And what about that story, now a couple of years old, that the DOJ’s lead attorney investigating the Abramoff scandals was offered and accepted a federal judgeship in the heat of the investigation? What’s up with that?
Pattern of Corruption?
Republican Cover ups of its pedophilia scandals are some of the worst and least known….or heard about.
Young men and women brought to D.C. to serve as pages for Congressmen….like Mark Foley….and who knows who else was taking advantage? What ever came of that investigation? Why no follow-up? Who is in charge of the Page program now?
Gonzales under fire for the U.S. attorney political firings. What about Gonzales’ COVER UP — along with U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton — of the Texas Ranger investigation that documented that guards and administrators from the Texas Youth Commission were sexually abusing underage teenage boy inmates? Administrators would rouse boys from their sleep to conduct all-night sex parties.
The U.S. attorne’s office in Texas actually prepared indictments….but the word came down from Washington and then they declined prosecution. Gee, this case developed right during Republican Governor Perry’s 2006 re-election campaign….do you suppose THAT had anything to do with it (Karl?)???
Pattern of corruption. I guess so.
It isn’t enough that they trump up a war to send young people off to their deaths….and maimings.
They enjoy young boys who “serve at their pleasure”…..as well.
LS >
EPUd I know but…
Bush Senior has also been on his payroll for years. There are Congressional records of investigations of Mr. Moon that point to connections with Korean intelligence groups as well as Japanese yakuza & Chinese tongs. Quite the global connected one he is. Also rumors of many bags of cash being brought into North America (ex-daughter-in-law et al). Note he also owns lots of land in Paraguay (ring a bell ?).
Sooooo many threads so little time.
“…Democrats believe in checks and balances. Republicans believe in giving checks to rich people who already have large balances.” – windje-firedoglake.com
Re Rev. Moon, Robert Parry has several articles, including this one:
http://consortiumnews.com/2001/010301a.html
I recommend.
It’s no longer enough just to “out” corrupt figures. The MSM has been corrupted outright and by overexposure through such media as Limbaugh, Faux News, MTP.
Take today’s WaPo, for example: “Democrats Widen Rift with President” a headline that more accurately would have read, “President Widens Rift with Reality and Congress”. Just under it, the WaPo claimed that the “Supreme Court Affirms President’s Terror Policy”, a statement that almost inverts the temporary reprieve granted to it by the Court’s insistence that plaintiffs exhaust their effective lower court remedies. Mathew Dowd left the Bush tent and is now described as if he needs a stay in a Russian asylum/prison.
Mere exposure is no longer adequate. Rove as perfected the line, “Yeah, we did it. So? Everybody does it,” a variation on which was Sampson’s claim that distinctions between a USA’s professional performance and political loyalty were “largely artificial”.
Opponents of corruption must now pre-litigate their claims in print to demonstrate the corruptness in order to get fair attention paid to those claims.
methinks you’re on to something here, christy. and it would be helpful to compile a list of investigations into pre-election “dem corruption” investigations that are started but never amount to anything (like indictments).
one that immediately comes to mind is the investigation of NJ Senator Menendez, which, to the best of my knowledge and belief, began during the fall of 2006 and “miraculously” vanished from view thereafter.
there were also multiple investigations of dem officials by the USA in the western district of PA, and local news coverage that suggested that perhaps some (or all) of them were politically-motivated witch hunts.
no doubt there are others.
Congress should NOT grant Goodling immunity now. Too many threads lead through her to her colleagues and to Rove, and to too many possible scandals.
She had inadequate legal credentials for her nominal position. But she had the experience, as did Tim Griffin, as an opposition researcher to be let her loose on “the files” (which Mr. Sampson claims were really never kept).
Ms. Goodling should be leapfrogged while investigations dig out more evidence. Her fate should be determined later, after it becomes clearer whether she was a faithful neophyte promoted well over her head, or a dirty trickster let loose with all the tools of the DOJ.
snoboysdrift @
55
Wow! I had never heard that before.
Gee, if only the MSM would inform me. Thanks.
They’re dirtier than Nixon. It’s a question whether you can have a fair election in ‘08, because these people are all about power and not in the slightest about playing the game.
I realize this is very late to add to this, but look at Harold Ford Jr- Bob Corker race for Senate in 06. In a special election after the 04 election Harold’s aunt Ophelia ran against a Rep for a state Senate seat, in a heavily democratic district, and won by a few handfuls of votes. The Rep party screamed voter fraud and actually found some dead people voted, and other people voted who’s home addresses were vacant lots. They also found a Rep who was registered in MS and TN and who voted in both elections. OK so the State Senate threw out those election results and held another election which Ophelia won overwhelmingly and was finally seated. A few months later TBI ran an investigation called TN Waltz and netted a number of Dem pols, and one Rep. One of the Dems swept up was Harold’s Uncle. OK then realize that for years Dems and conservationists in Chattanooga have been begging for an official investigation into some very seemingly shady conflicts of interests that as Mayor Bob Corker authorized which netted him millions. And no investigation was ever forthcoming. Add all that up to a very close race for Senate in 06 between Corker and Ford Jr, and one can only be suspicious. Now, especially in light of the known reasons for the USAs firings, and I am convinced these eventsare via Rove’s master plan of a permanent Rep majority. I hope that helps in your list of oddhappenings in re., elections.
W.Va. acts as though it’s a wholly-owned subsidiary of the coal industry and all the politics revolve around this de facto relationship. Nothing good can possibly come out of this incestuous affair, that’s for darn sure as mustard.
And who the hell came up with those horrid signs polluting the major thruways W.Va.; the one’s that say “We’re Open for Business”? WTF? Yeah, they’ll give you the business, alright!
That would explain why Rove was “very confident” about the Repugs chances in 06.
The Republithug PR teams are using the same tactic they used in the Libby case for the Monica Goodling case, that is, their claim that “there was no underlying crime” so what’s the big deal. Move along folks. There’s nothing to see here. Can’t we just let bygones be bygones, put the past behind and look to the future? Pretty please?
Unfortunately for the Republithugs, this won’t work any better this time than last.
Someone committed treason in the Bush administration by ordering the outing of a covert CIA officer during a time of war…and Scooter Libby is still covering for those who committed this treasonous act for political CYA purposes.
Someone in the Bush administration ordered the firing of a U.S. Attorney (Carol Lam) who was in the middle of uncovering and prosecuting criminal activities perpetrated by Republicans and reaching as far up as inside the White House itself.
Thus, this specious claim that no underlying crime was committed just doesn’t hold water.
From Scooter Libby obstructing justice to Monica Goodling taking the fifth in a blatantly obvious attempt to also obstruct justice, it is apparent that an underlying crime has been committed, with Karl Rove up to his eyeballs in both of these serious breaches of national trust.
But until Democrats control both the White House and both branches of Congress more fully, we won’t know the full depth of corruption to which the Bush administration and the Republican Party have really sunk.
Therefore, the Democratic Party’s platform for the upcoming 2008 elections should include a proviso stating that the winning Democratic Party presidential candidate will make her or his top priority getting to the bottom of all the corruption of the Bush administration, with both current and new Democrats in Congress in 2009 helping to get to the bottom of the Republican cesspool, and reversing as much and as soon as possible all the damage that’s been done to our democracy.
Of course, knowing Democrats, they’ll overreach as much as the Republicans, let power go to their heads, and decide to try to outlaw all guns in America and make cigarette smoking illegal nationwide…just as “culture of corruption” Republicans would love to outlaw all abortions nationwide and shutdown the porn industry.
For some reason, I tend to have problems with any monopolists no matter what their party affiliation. Why? Because all monopolists are totalitarian authoritarians who never “play nice,” but always “bully” their extremist “pet projects” over everyone else. Censors are ALWAYS monopolistic bullies.
The neo-con Republicans have adopted this extremist attitude. It will be up to the newly empowered Democrats to choose whether they will adopt a similar attitude (although over different issues, but with the same intent of legislating morality) or prove that they will not act like the “culture of corruption” Republicans have been acting. We’ll see.