NOTE: Bill Donohue and his death-threatening, hate-spewing huns have managed to intimidate the hotel that was going to display artist Cosimo Cavallaro's life-size milk-chocolate rendition of the crucifixion, entitled "My Sweet Lord". The show has been cancelled and Cavallaro is trying to find a new venue. Anderson Cooper had the artist and violent, crypto-Catholic sociopath Donohue on his show to discuss what Donohue calls, "the worst assault on Christianity, like, EVER!" Apparently, Billy Demento sees no conflict of interest in his profession of Christian faith and alluding to breaking Cavallaro's fingers and cutting off his head. Then, he freaks out that maybe Cavallero was going to let people actually EAT the sculpture, God forbid. That would be barbaric! Except that I seem to remember going up to the altar rail once a week growing up to be fed the body and blood of Jesus. Did I get that part wrong? But anyway, in the spirit of Wrong-Way Malkin's cool new club of Nazi block-watchers, I thought we should start our own club. Our manifesto is as follows.
Dear Talibangelical Christian Terrorist/Censor/Supporter/Apologist,
You do not know me, but I am on the lookout for you. I am your enemy. And you are mine.
I am Chocolate Jesus.
I am in your homeowners' association, I am on your plane, I am writing for your magazine, I am a parent at your childrens' school, I am on your editorial board, and I am your coworker.
I am Chocolate Jesus.
I will never forget that this nation was founded on religious and personal freedom, that the United States is not a theocracy, and that we have no monolithic national faith.
I will never forget your attempts to force your religious superstitions into the public sphere. I will always remember your crusades to pollute our government with a bunch of moralistic hogwash, and the billions of dollars every year that go uncollected in taxes on corporate christianity, not to mention the thousands of legislative hours that have been wasted as you have sought to impose your Medieval prejudices on American law.
I am Chocolate Jesus.
I will never forget the humiliating defeats you have suffered in your efforts to subvert science and teach fairy tales as fact in public schools. I will fight you to see that my childrens' education is untainted by religionist dogma. I will fight your attempts to burn books, silence oppositon, and reduce the choices of every person in America.
I will never forget your murder of abortion providers, I will never forgive your gay-bashing, your race-hating, and your assaults on the reproductive freedoms of women. I will never falter in this fight. I will never make the mistake of thinking that you are rational, reasoning, or worth listening to at all. You are ideological poison, and it is my duty as a conscientious citizen to fight your brainwashing, ridicule your distortions, and counter your violent threats.
You are my country's real terrorists. You are American jihadi. You are my sworn enemies and I will fight you for my rights and for equal protection under the law until the day I die. If you want to try to silence me, then you better plan on killing me, because as long as I have a voice, I will be using it to fight you. This is my country, founded by a bunch of people who didn't want to be told how to worship God.
And we're going to keep it that way. I will resist all attempts to impose faux-Christian law in my schools, at my church, at work, on the Internet, at the public pool, and in all the areas of my town. You can do whatever you want in your church, but I will fight until my knuckles bleed to make sure your church stays at church and out of my government and for fuck's sake, out of my bedroom.
I am Chocolate Jesus.
I will not submit to your will. I will not be intimidated.
I.
Am.
Chocolate.
Jesus.
Eat me.
Related posts:
Spotlight
Support this site!
Subscribe to the newsletter
Advertise on Firedoglake
Send
us your tips
Make us your homepage
About Firedoglake
Advanced search
Yay!
TRex!!
TRex!
Sweet Jesus!
TRex- love you. I wasn’t trying to do anything “illegal” when I said I wanted to change my handle.
Trex! I want a chocolate dinosaur!
*Applause*
EAT ME!!
Heh.
I always liked the ears. Can we eat them first?
What’s not to like about chocolate? Geez louise!
Okay, maybe this is the thread to post the picture of “Jesus and his peeps“.
Chocolate Jesus a magnificent work of art. Amazing
Mmmmmmm. Chocolate balls.
Jesus General spiffs up Michelle’s John Doe Creed so it better reflects its true sentiments.
Michelle’s Hood
Beautiful work. So strong. Man…
TRex @ 6
Why do I have this mental image of Tommy Lee Jones in “Men in Black?”
“Eat me! EAT ME!!!”
No mention of Andres Serrano? I am so pissed.
me too AZ Matt!
I’d lick him and lick him and let him melt on my tongue … oh wait, did I type that out loud ?!?!?
AZ Matt @
4
Go here.
Classic Donohue:
Is Chocolate Jesus milk or dark?
Wonder if the artist is a Tom Waits fan…
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1wfamPW3Eaw
Tom is always a step ahead, isn’t he?
Or here.
AZ Matt @ 19
Milk, this year.
# 11 motherlowman says:
April 1st, 2007 at 8:08 pm
Much better than Schweaty ones!
OT: Sorry, know it’s early in the thread, but this steams me.
Goddammit, Barack, I don’t know how they play poker in your neighborhood, but where I come from you…do…not…show…them…your…fucking…CARDS!!!!!!!!
TRex @ 21
Easter Dinos!! Any Dino peeps?
I don’t know which is more bizarre, the statue or the arguments about it. I do know I’m a lot more concerned about the rhetoric and venom from the likes of Bill Donohue, and that the man continues to be trotted out on news shows as if he’s someone with a rational point of view.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/…..ate-jesus/
Here is the video at C&L
lolo
Wouldn’t the color of this Chocolate Jesus be much closer to the original? I’m just asking.
Liberty Lover @ 28
What is this, “The Price is Right” played with a Munsell color chart? See how close you can get without going over?
http://zaiusnation.blogspot.co…..ntion.html
The above link was in the HOLY CRAP section of Mike’s Blog Roundup on Crooks and Liars yesterday and it just cracked me up. Another look at the many faces of Jesus (and the easter bunny saves santa). Not beverage safe.
Liberty Lover @ 27
There seems to be a wide variety of skin colors in that area now, so I suppose it’s possible.
‘The God Debate’
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17…../newsweek/
Plain or peanut?
Lou @ 31
Who is God debating this week?
Eureka Springs @ 32
Organic? Fair trade?
Lou Costello @ 32
Ah yes, the obligatory Easter season cover stories.
As I understand, the art work itself is an expression of distaste for the trivialization of Jesus.
The sculpture itself is quite beautiful.
If it was marble or hardwood, would it be a problem? It’s the ephemeral nature of the medium that’s so problematic? OR the edible nature?
Or is it that Jesus has genitals?
One of the oldest theological principles, one that has defined orthodoxy for a millenium and a half is this: “What Jesus did not assume, he did not redeem.”
In regular English, this principle tells us that for orthodox Christians, it’s essential that Jesus was human in every way. Jesus had emotions and passions and viruses and anger and genitals and smiles and flaws.
Anything less is a second rate imitation. Not the real Jesus.
I think this piece rejects fake Jesus. I think that the Chocolate Jesus speaks to dinosaurs and Americans saying “Beware of false prophets cashing in on my name, like Bill Donahue.”
Donahue, like so many others, worships a fake, sticky sweet Jesus. He tries to intimidate others into doing the same.
But Chocolate Jesus speaks from the cross. Be not afraid.
It’s not Donahue’s church, TRex. Some of us are fighting back, like Cosimo Cavallaro.
Liberty Lover @ 34
Dick Cheney. Big Time thinks this is going to go the way the ‘00 VP debate did.
Hmmm…clearly you got your ax back from PW…
They should be asking the artist about his process and how he came to do this beautiful work of art. I have so many questions. Like is it fare trade chocolate for instance. heh
Ding!
“I am the enemy, and you are mine.” Everywhere. Sad but true.
Dang, TRex. Some nights your writing just knocks my socks off. This is one of those nights.
Very well done, sir. Wish I wrote that.
I thought the expression for chocolate jesus was holy mole’… It’s so easy to envision this Donahue fellow banging his head against the wall since he musy have been rejected by opus dei as a child…
Yum! YUM! Yum!
Maybe I projected all that stuff. Cosimo Cavallaro usually works in cheese.
Evil Dr Puma -
It pissed a lot of us off earlier – however, in one of my rare sojourns to Big Orange I found a diary that shows it to be the usual AP flim flam
DKos
What an excellant take. Thank you.
Liberty Lover @ 33
Orrin Hatch, I think I am going to write my churches president and ask him if I am suppose to trust this lying ass.
TRex @ 40
Donohue probably thought all these years that Jesus was like a Ken doll.
Eureka Springs @ 32
That’s what’s missing. Strategic peanut placement.
Alison @ 47
Donahue probably wouldn’t be any happier with a Cheesy Jesus.
cbl @ 48
Maybe…but I think a lot of us here would know better than to let an interviewer get away with asking us a transparently loaded question. Why doesn’t Obama know this?
smike @ 48
You are entirely welcome.
Terry Olson @
3
Terry- just start posting as “your new moniker.. formerly Terry Olsen” and do this for a while. Then, you can just be “your new moniker”. Just don’t go back to Terry Olsen, or try to post under more than one moniker. I have reason to know that several people have done this in the past. (edit p.s.- I mean changed their FDL names)
AZ Matt @ 51
Donohue probably won’t like going to see Lifeworks then…
Next time the artist should use white chocolate and compare the rage..
Milk (of human kindness) chocolate?
Should have been bittersweet instead ….
Brilliant!! I’m linking to this one!
Alison @ 37
There’s a song about this with the same title if you’re interested…
http://www.officialtomwaits.co…..late_Jesus
Hello, TRex. I think you are smart and funny as hell, and your posts often make me L-O-L, which at my present time of life is a rare and valued experience.
I also have been a longtime reader of this blog, beginning circa Fall 2005, b4 it achieved the celebrity status it has now — and at that time I frequently wanted (though regrettably didn’t) say something like…..wow! you guys ROCK!
I gotta say, though….and you all can flame my ass to hell if you want to…..that, although there continue to be good and enjoyable posts on the site…..in terms of actual intelligent DEBATE of anything controversial (i.e., respectful substantive disagreement — or as Jane Austen put it, “the compliment of rational opposition”)…..it just ain’t here. It is, like I said a while back about the A*P*C thing, a Greek chorus. Or, if you like, a circle jerk.
But hell….in this incredibly fucked up world we’re in……maybe it’s enough to find kindred spirits. So, I keep returning.
regards to all, oddmommy
[edited by ** Mod]
Donohue needs to be on TV or he is nobody(which he is). This BS on his part to get in front of a camera.
found this while googling for cadbury creme jesus
a hilarious comment thread
Twixmata
For Jews and Carobs, Peace at Last
Gawker
Liberty Lover @ 34
And is FOX News carrying it?
EvilDrPuma @
24
As we confront the Bushies and megacorps, Barack has our backs
Stabbed repeatedly.
Barack Obama, DLC servant.
Doing what they do best.
TRex……..thank you. That was just unbelievable. That is the best blog post I’ve ever ever read. And I read A LOT of them. I love DailyKos, America Blog, Think Progress, Glenn Greenwald, Digny and on and on. Your post says it all….what we’ve been through. You are an artist. You must write poetry for our country. I mean it.
AZ Matt @ 51
Don’t know why a dick like Donohue would have a problem with Jesus’ pee-pee.
Toothsome!
Ha ha…..I mean digby of course.
continuing with the OT about changing names:
Nefarious Leslie used to be Leslie in CA
Perris used to be me to me
Fern used to be jlr……..
Didn’t Jesus create chocolate so we could enjoy it? Didn’t Jesus make those who sell chocolate sell chocolate? Oh..I see..Jesus didn’t want chocolate made in his image. I’ll bet Jesus likes chocolate just as much as we all do!
The whole thing is nuts. Oh…I see…Jesus made nuts too…but…they can cause allergies. Oh…I see…if you are allergic you are not worthy of eating what he created. There is no end to the spin and manipulation. I give up, and I’m going to go have some chocolate right now, because it makes me feel good. So there.
cbl @ 48
Looky here http://www.talkleft.com/story/2007/4/1/194927/8915
s @ 65
Did you know I have the same birthday as Walt Whitman?
EvilDrPuma @ 65
Don’t know why a dick like Donohue would have a problem with Jesus’ pee-pee.
Jealousy, his is smaller.
Valley Girl @ 69
MarcyNChristyRTehHot used to be Jacqrat…
Talent has a TRex bias. I am thankful you are not a reich winger.
Well, you know about Jesus.
He was hung like this.
*spreads arms out wide*
TRex, that is a terrific post. Great job alluding at last night’s Malkin dribble. If I were going to join a group and cite an oath, yours would be a good one to stand behind.
But, if you start shreiking that what a real man needs is some meat, I’m gonna be frightened.
My guess is that Donahue is pissed off for two reasons:
first, the notion of Jesus as candy makes him mad. I guess I can see that it could be somewhat sacreligious, though as a Christian, I personally don’t see it as insulting. Certainly not as insulting as people who promote religious and ethnic hatred in the name of Jesus.
Second, and probably more importantly, Donahue needs something to shriek about. He has to find something every few months to blather on about in the “war on Catholicism”, and the fundies who are courting the conservative Catholic bloc are more than happy to egg him along (after all, only six days left for “the war on Easter”).
I don’t know a Catholic who has much respect for Donahue. Of course, they probably know me well enough to not talk about him if they think he’s a good spokesperson for the Catholic cause. ;)
(OT for a moment: more cat food and cat treats are being recalled. Please keep checking the websites regularly for new info. I just realized some Pounce cat treats have been added to the list).
Good night, all!
AZ Matt @ 74
Jesus had a lot of things that are bigger than Donohue’s.
I think I saw an article the other day that said eight or nine American adults believe in God.
Top 10 Courses Offered by Pat Robertson’s Law School: http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=683
Jacqrat @ 74
hahaha! Hey Jacqrat! Luv ya.
TRex @
74
That must be why you’re so sweet.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 81
That should read 8 or 9 “out of ten” American adults.
TRex @ 74
No.
Would you be offended if a Whitman’s Sampler of TRex were made?
Oops, actually Walt Whitman’s birthday is the day after mine.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 84
How many been talkin’ to Jesus, and He knows they’re right?
How sweet it is!
I watched the clip of Bill Donahue debating (and having his rhetorical arse handed to him by) Cosimo Cavallaro. When he told Cosimo gleefully that, “you stuck your middle finger at the Church and we broke it!” all I could think was, “oh, so THAT’S what Jesus would do! Break fingers.” Cosimo was very cool throughout the exchange.
Someone explain to me again why the media legitimizes this vile hate-spewer?
EvilDrPuma @ 77
Love for instance.
p.s. Jacqrat- why not “tehvoiceofBluAmericaRadioAd_rateNegotiation is calling”? I mena, like, you did that a lot!
TRex @ 74
Shit. I have the same birthday as OJ Simpson….sigh…
TRex @ 74
No way you’re that old.
Valley Girl @ 91
Because Marcy and Christy ARE Teh HOT
Valley Girl @
71
Christy Hardin Smith used to be ReddHedd!
Oh, 58 shopping days left, gang.
If you didn’t catch 60 Minutes this week you have to watch the lead story on how the drug companies co-opted our government to get the ultimate deal in the new Medicaid bill. They made a mockery of the Congressional procedure. The Republicans threatened a government official not to reveal before the vote in the House that the bill would cost $500 billion, not substantially less as originally projected. And now the drug companies are charging seniors and our government a ton more than they should because our government agreed that it cannot negotiate – drug companies name their price. By the way, the leading politicians and bureaucrats promptly took fat cat jobs with the drug industry right after they passed the bill. What a pay off, in addition to the hundred million in campaign donations by drug companies that year. Bush says if Democrats overturn the provision which ties the government’s hands from negotiating with the drug companies he will veto the bill. (This from the President who actually campaigned on untying our government’s hands from negotiating with the drug companies).
We’ve got greed and corruption galore with our taxpayer dollars. It’s a disgrace. And it’s emblematic of everything that’s wrong with Republicans these days. Please read it if you care. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories…..5305.shtml
“”They’re suppose to have 15 minutes to leave the voting machines open and it was open for almost three hours,” Burton explains. “The votes were there to defeat the bill for two hours and 45 minutes and we had leaders going around and gathering around individuals, trying to twist their arms to get them to change their votes.”
Jones says the arm-twisting was horrible.
“We had a good friend from Michigan, Nick Smith, and they threatened to work against his son who wanted to run for his seat when he retired,” he recalls. “I saw a woman, a member of the House, a lady, crying when they came around her, trying to get her to change her votes. It was —it was ugly.”
When the prescription drug bill finally passed shortly before dawn, in the longest roll call in the history of the House of Representatives, much of the credit went to former Congressman Billy Tauzin, R-La., who steered it through the house.
“It’s just a messy process,” Tauzin says. “I mean, the old adage about if you like sausage or laws, you should not watch either one of them being made is true. It’s a messy process.”
Tauzin says that the voting machines were open for three hours “because the vote wasn’t finished.”
As for arms being twisted? “People were being talked to,” he says.”
Thanks Valley Girl-
Think I’ll just forget about it.
EvilDrPuma @ 88
The only person I know who for sure has conversions with Jesus, is our President. At least I’m convinced George Bush is convinced he does. And I mean convinced.
Terry Olson @ 96
Here, I’m going to come up with a new name for you right now.
Did you read the Hitch-Hiker’s Guide to the Galaxy?
Terry Olsen, please don’t just forget it. There was nothing you did wrong – you informed the thread you were thinking about changing your name and everything has been open and above board.
The CHS comment was not directed at you for wanting to change your name – it was directed at another individual who was being sneaky – sock puppetry is not the same thing as changing your name.
Besides, I’m already thinking LooHoo in my head everything I see your name.
AZ Matt @
51
The most beautiful church (still under construction) in Barcelona is the only one that has Jesus nude. It is so unlike anything else in Europe.
OT-ish, but it looks like the Swiftboating of Michael Ware has begun, starting with an unsourced Drudge story picked up by the good little brownshirts at PowerTools and HotAir.
As for Bill Donohue, it’s time (again!) for two things.
1. Ask the NY archdiocese for an official statement supporting everything Donohue said, including the thinly-veiled threats.
2. Report him to the NYPD.
New Yorkers — and ideally New York Catholics — need to do this. It’s not hard to call up the archdiocese and say ‘Does the Archbishop agree with Bill Donohue here?’ Put the people in the funny costumes on the record.
Oh, and we do all know, don’t we, that Renaissance art focused on the erection of Jesus as a demonstration that he was, theologically speaking, all man?
If it’s made out of Godiva Belgian chocolate, I’m going back to the altar rail.
TRex @ 99
Not “Eccentrica Gallumbits,” I hope…
TRex @ 99
Ah, no.
This chocolate Jesus is nothing compared to the more “blasphemous” films of Bunuel and Pasolini, not to mention some of de Sade’s writings. This “My Sweet Lord” thingy was probably meant as a joke, but Donohue and his worshippers in the MSM think the world is falling apart.
Shorter Donohue: “YOU WILL ADORE CHRIST, NOT NIBBLE ON HIS EARS!”
Well, there’s a girl named Trillian in there and she could fly because she would just fall down and miss. And thereby be flying. The Talking Heads song, “And She Was” is about her.
I was going to call you “GirlAloft” after her.
Don’t tell Bill Donohue, or he and his Catholic League of Superheros will make a stink. Naked (non-chocolate) Jesus! How incomprehensibly demoralizing.
Suzanne @ 100
Thanks, Suzanne.
bonkers @ 92
I have the same birthday as Bill Clinton, different year though.
TeddySanFran @ 110
Donohue is going to lobby the White House to bomb Spain now. And gay marriage is legal there, too! Another reason to bomb!
TRex @ 108
Fenchurch, from So Long and Thanks for All the Fish! is actually the flying girl. Trillian was Tricia McMillan from the first three books.
The TH song is one of my favorites …
I dunno what Donahue is so fussed about…
transubstantiation suddenly became much more appealing… not that I am into a cracker turning into some dead guy’s flesh in my mouth… but… if the flesh is chocolate… it’s still pretty creepy… forget I spoke up…
say! FOX is giving their highly unamusing comedy show 13 more episodes to prove they don’t understand the Aristotelian Poetics… or, in simpler terms, they don’t comprehend ‘funny’
Respectful Dissent @ 114
Oops. I stand corrected.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 81
Most of my friends in SF also believe – in many gods and goddesses.
Which makes the CNN sponsored Cooper-Donovan heresy alert so delicious.
Next weekend millions of Christian households across America will celebrate Easter the same way my family did (and does) – with chocolate rabbits and eggs.
Delicious icons of the sweet abundance of our sexuality – icons carried forward from pagan goddesses and the Beltane rites.
All the while the Donovan
outrage buys my dinnerfaux-Catholic Order of Heresy Detection scrambles the threat detection algorithm with an art histoy course and targets a sculpture for his choice of media.And CNN gets advertisers for this?
(Bright blessings and Beltane bliss to the Lake!)
TRex @ 74
Would you believe Ingrid Bergman… and Michael Jackson. This explains a lot.
God talks to me everyday! He thinks neocons are raping the planet & everything on it & wingnuts are helping by holding her down.
.
I’ve learned not to argue with Him when He’s right. http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gm…..resid.html
This will give Donohue seizures…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVGPoaGhRyE
Take a look at the picture of Adam and Eve in the Sistine Chapel, and ask yourself what Eve was doing just before she turned her head.
EvilDrPuma @
80
he ha$ 325,000 rea$ons to fu$$
You guys, Amy Winehouse is just too good. I got her album off iTunes today. She sounds like the love child of Dusty Springfield and Sarah Vaughn.
Having read the Cooper transcript, my impression is that Donohue is more upset by the figure of Christ being naked, than the fact that the icon was made of chocolate.
However, a naked Jesus on the cross is probably historically more accurate than the typical depiction of him with a loin cloth, as it was the custom of the Roman soldiers to strip naked those they crucified.
Here is a quote from wikipedia (emphasis mine):
Donohue also feigns outrage that the statue would have been visible to young children who visited the museum, but I don’t know what cave Donohue is living in to think that today’s kids have no idea about genitals.
The fault in this case belongs to the museum for backing down to Donohue’s vicious attacks.
TRex @ 115
And at 60ft tall, that’s a tall corrected.
You’ve reminded me that one of my favorite lines ever was the whole, “This is her story” surprise riff/allusion from the prologue.
If you’re a Douglas Adams fan, make sure to check out The Salmon of Doubt … also, DA and Richard Dawkins were great friends, so that’s a little bit of trivia.
Hello, TRex. I think you are smart and funny as hell, and your posts often make me L-O-L, which at my present time of life is a rare and valued experience.
I also have been a longtime reader of this blog, beginning circa Fall 2005, b4 it achieved the celebrity status it has now — and at that time I frequently wanted (though regrettably didn’t) say something like…..wow! you guys ROCK!
I gotta say, though….and you all can flame my ass to hell if you want to…..that, although there continue to be good and enjoyable posts on the site…..in terms of actual intelligent DEBATE of anything controversial (i.e., respectful substantive disagreement — or as Jane Austen put it, “the compliment of rational opposition”)…..it just ain’t here. It is, like I said a while back about the A*P*C thing, a Greek chorus. Or, if you like, a circle jerk.
But hell….in this incredibly fucked up world we’re in……maybe it’s enough to find kindred spirits. So, I keep returning.
regards to all, oddmommy
[edited by ** Mod]
dreamcatcher @ 124
They should have stood their ground…now Dononhue feels emboldened to carry on his ridiculous attacks…
Guess what, gang. I have to go to the grocery store. I just realized that I’m out of coffee. And we can’t have that.
I’ll check back in before bed.
Also, Bill Hicks:
oddmommy @ 62
I’ll pay you the compliment of disagreeing with you. I had a thoughtful ‘debate’ the other night here in the comments. I felt all involved were able to look at the particular topic in a new way after all was said and done. This has happened many times for me here, and I’m an infrequent commenter. It’s what you make of it.
Personally, I like how you can type up a well-researched comment that’s several paragraphs long, or a one word smart-ass comeback all in the same sitting. I’m often bouncing our baby girl late at night and typing a one-liner here and there between the cries. If some don’t think this is intellectually stimulating enough for them, there are plenty of other options. It’s like having the best of both worlds here, IMO.
Plus a good laugh or two never hurts either!
pseudonymous in nc @ 129
Oooh. Paging Dr. Freud…
kirk murphy @ 115
May I suggest See’s Candies? here.
This has always been my favorite. (link to the chocolate walnut buttercream egg)
I could easily see myself licking Jesus’ eyeballs. Yummy…;)
Valley Girl @ 132
As a kid, no Easter was complete without a See’s chocolate walnut buttercream egg from my Grandmother! Yum.
Need to ask y’all for help.
My friends and I have a name for our blog, but we need to buy a domain name and get hosting. We need $35 to pay for the first year so we can set up http://www.youthinkleft.com .
So far we are 4 high school kids, advertising to add more left-thinking teen bloggers. You can see us at http://youthfortruth.ning.com/ .
If you can help with a small donation, please email me or click at the bottom of http://pyo.nkbphoto.com/ .
Thanks!!!!
Cassie :)
Ah See’s candies. The best. I used to buy one of their chocolate walnut Easter eggs. They used to only make them once a year for Easter. They were sooo gooood and huge.
Hmmmm USA Rachael Palouse:
http://www.tpt.org/aatc/aggregator/sources/9
Quebecois @ 133
In all sincerity, I believe if we could partake of the real Jesus’ heart, these dreadful wars would be over.
(and Donovan, you repressed cannibal, the partaking is metaphorical. As in your affiliation with official Catholicism.)
______________
VG -
See’s candies. Mmmmmm.
Love your favorite.
I can’t decide between these, the Bordeaux eggs, and the little (marzipanish?) eggs with the brightly colored petit-four like frosting.
Have to go make cocoa now.
___________________________
Lou Costello at 119 –
LOL
Quebecois @ 133
To quote Penn&Teller, when your parents told you not to play with your food, this is exactly what they were talking about. *g*
This was Jesus about six years ago –
A photograph depicting Christ’s last supper which features Jesus as a naked black woman has been described by the mayor of New York, Rudolph Giuliani, as outrageous and disgusting.
The picture is part of a new exhibition of the work of black photographers which opens at the Brooklyn museum of art on Friday.
Then there was the elephant dung Jesus.
And, of course, Serrano’s vial. These depictions of a simple, liberal revolutionary being tortured, humiliated and executed publicly, are far more real than what I saw in the church I left two hours ago.
The sweet Jesus sculpture, IMHO, is going to go down as one of the great sculptures of the first decade of the 21st century. I wasn’t very excited about dung jesus, but hung, edible jesus does exactly what art should.
Cadbury eggs.
kirk- if you have not tried Bordeaux, then go for that. My two faves for a special box mix are Bordeaux and chocolate butter cream. Heaven!
Suzanne @ 139
Those are too weird… they have the yellow stuff in the middle. See’s is more discreet- no questions raised about the yolk.
VG, the yellow stuff is perfect for dipping peeps into.
The symbolic use of the Easter bunny and eggs to celebrate the resurrection of Christ is further prove that no matter how civilized our veneer, we are not that far removed from our paganistic origins. (Think tailgate parties at football games.)
The symbolic conflation of Christ rising from his tomb and the celebration of a new spring was a clever ruse of the early Church fathers to get people with the program. In fact, the hare was regarded as a sacred animal celebrated by pagans at Ostara (Easter), which was the arrival of a new spring. This is appropriate because among animals the hare is regarded as very fecund. And clearly the egg represents new life. How the hares get the eggs I have not learned, but I think it bespeaks of the miracle of life.
So Christ rising from the tomb, Ostara bunnies, and eggs, all come together as symbols of Easter.
How do I know all this if I am not even Christian? Don’t ask.
PS: I assume after this you will all be referring to the day as Ostara. There will be a test.
I’ll pay you the compliment of disagreeing with you. I had a thoughtful ‘debate’ the other night here in the comments. I felt all involved were able to look at the particular topic in a new way after all was said and done. This has happened many times for me here, and I’m an infrequent commenter. It’s what you make of it.
Personally, I like how you can type up a well-researched comment that’s several paragraphs long, or a one word smart-ass comeback all in the same sitting. I’m often bouncing our baby girl late at night and typing a one-liner here and there between the cries. If some don’t think this is intellectually stimulating enough for them, there are plenty of other options. It’s like having the best of both worlds here, IMO.
Plus a good laugh or two never hurts either!
Bush may be beginning to regard 2007 as the year of the aggregated Jesus…
Ed*ard Teller @ 140
Giuliani is one to judge on offensiveness and “morals”, now isn’t he?
Valley Girl @ 142
Mmmm.
GTTA.
(great tongues taste alike)
Jeez, how did I do THAT? Got the quote and response backwards…..
Sorry.
1. amazing column. freaking brilliant.
2. i thought the chocolate jesus sculpture was very smart: then i wanted to see an entire installation of a shelf of 3″ tall versions of them in brightly wrapped packages at the super super market
3. i was talking about it with a bright friend who was really offended that jesus was naked: “he’s supposed to have a loincloth.” hearing this from a smart, sophisticated adult was stunning … once that stuff gets into people’s heads, it apparently stays there and tehre’s no getting it out
much love to all
VG,
now you’re talkin’! the college kids know they must bring home a 2 pound See’s box of bordeaux, assorted buttercreams, and key lime truffle
The chocolate Jesus looks so much like the santos I grew up with.
Look at this, scroll down a tiny bit:
http://www.nmia.com/~paulos/santos.html
Same color, even.
And TRex…every time I say, OK that was the best TRex story yet, here’s another one to top it.
I am chocolate Jesus. Hear me roar.
LS @
72
Somebody ought to write a song. “Eat it, Just eat it.”
When i first looked at the title and photo of the post… nudity did not come to mind.
The album Chocolate City did…
TRex, you absolutely outdid yourself this time. I’m going to have to link to this post. That Donohoe creature is just a five-year-old! This is in keeping with my view of the Republicans as the ‘Child’ party. Children are so very literal. Any kind of art that requires the audience to participate in the art experience by thinking and coming to their own conclusion is anathema to conservatives. They like their art pretty and one-dimensional. And the reactions to Chocolate Jesus (it makes me happy just typing His name!) are typical of the conservative mindset.
Art and conservatism don’t mix.
I don’t think George Bush thinks of himself as “the decider”. I’m beginning to believe he views himself as the Messiah. And I think he’s is just that much in touch with reality not to tell us.
Bill Donahue is President and CEO of the Catholic League for the defense of Religious and Civil Rights.
Donahue has an anger management problem, he’s thin-skinned, he’s reactionary, and he’s a bigot. He called an asian-american Columbia student a “gook” LINK and he claimed jews run hollywood, the love abortion and hate catholics. Can’t find link on YouTube)
Tell me how “My Sweet Lord” curtails the religious or civil rights of catholics.
The art director at the gallery explained to Donahue that the hotel in which the gallery was house, knew nothing of this sculpture of Jesus. In other words, why are you trying to penalizes the hotel finacially, when they didn’t even know what we in the gallery intended to show? LINK
He further explained the sculpture was not irreverent but was meant to be a mediation during holy week. Yet, the catholic league wrote 500 religious and secular organizations asking them to boycott the hotel.
The artist suggested a compromise. Instead of having the sculpture on display for all of holy week, they would display it for just one day, today, and invite viewers to break off a piece. THAT got Donahue piping mad. LINK
Although in the end, they took chocolate Jesus out of the show, Donahue smited them because… well I’ll let him tell you in his own words.
Donahue and “My Sweet Lord” artist Cosimo Cavallaro – YouTube
Check out the Board Of Directors:
William Donohue, President
Bernadette Brady, Vice President
Rev. Philip Eichner, Chairman, Board of Directors
Marilyn Lundy, Vice Chairman
William Lindner, Secretary
Jerome McDougal, Treasurer
David Gregory, General Counsel
Raymond Arroyo
Thomas Brennan
Nunzio Cardone
Ann Corkery
Robert Lockwood
Kathleen McCreary
Kathleen O’Connell Murphy
Frank Salas
Jodie Thompson, Jr.
Kenneth Whitehead
Board of Advisors
Brent Bozell III
Gerard Bradley
Linda Chavez
Robert Destro
Dinesh D’Souza
Laura Garcia
Robert George
Mary Ann Glendon
Dolores Grier
Alan Keyes
Stephen Krason
Lawrence Kudlow
Thomas Monaghan
Michael Novak
Kate O’Beirne
Thomas Reeves
Patrick Riley
Robert Royal
Russell Shaw
William Simon, Jr.
Paul Vitz
George Weigel
Jacqrat @
76
Say what?
TRex,
You’re amazing.
BG
My post hit the censor trap. Can someone rescue it?
Terry Olson @
159
I was Edward Teller until Clinton took all the W’s away..
but hung, edible jesus does exactly what art should.
Kinda gets to the crux of the matter, doesn’t it.
Neil, the Lurking Mod released your comment. If a comment gets snagged, it will usually be released within a few minutes.
I once found a jelly bean that looked like Moses riding on the back of an Angora rabbit. It would probably be worth alot today, if I hadn’t lost the little saddle.
oddmommy!
welcome back to the Lake!
Please accept my offer to repay your generous and genuine complement of disagreement.
As a physician and biologist, one of the most important questions I can imagine is
“How do we stop the Iraq War?”
Another important question:
“How do we protect our living world from the undead megacorporations and their planet-blleding vampires, the neocons?”
Here at the Lake, I observe people contending with these questions every day.
[OK - phrasing may vary. same themes.]
Of course, what is important to me may not be important to you.
In which case we pay each other the mutual complement of disagreeing over what we find imporatant.
A dispute of some importance -
would you not agree?
oddmommy @ 146
___________________
just saying @ 151
from your keyboard to the Good Vibrations‘ edibles kitchen…
TRex @
109
T-
I am so far behind trying to do the Sunday chores. GirlAloft is so good…except that I’m 54.
Who is Bill Donohue (to be frank, until a few days ago I never heard of him):
Who is Bill Donogue
I have a sneaking suspicion Mr. Donohue has some serious sexual identity problems. In a way we are fortunate he did not become a priest. I would not trust him with an altar boy.
thx Suzanne. thx lurking mod.
well said kirk murphy..
So they’re like Peoria after all.
Gunga Djinn @ 166
(((((Gunga Djinn)))))
Sorry for your loss.
(This may not be the best place on the thread for me to share this, Gunga Djinn, but when we first brought home our Dutch bunnies…
the little peppercorns weren’t made of pepper)
EvilDrPuma @
24
Especially since the Republicans have secretly made plans to fold:
UPDATE: Via Atrios, Booman has thoughts on Mitchell’s scoops.
Jon Stewart at the Emmys…”Sodomy is a SIN!”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNEXLwDWnj0
Your own… edible… Jesus…
Someone to hear your prayers
Someone who cares…
Gunga Djinn @ 166
ditto for my little weighted blow-up godzilla whose sunglasses i can’t find.
I don’t think Donahue is miffed about the high caloric content of this art.
I think he’s snapping a G string because My Sweet Lord has a dark (as opposed to a light) ’skin pigment’.
I mean, after all, Hello? ‘Jesus, Caucasian of Nazareth’? The blond, blue-eyed battler of Beezelbub a dark idol? What next, a crunchy candy shell?
Thus, henceforth all Chocolate Jesii should be made using only the creamiest white liquor, as a token of artistic appeasement.
;>)
Lou Costello @ 173
Woody Allen said, “Sex is dirty only if done right.”
Terry Olson @ 155
Didn’t Weird Al Yankovich already do one by that name?
Hmmmmmm.
I am an atheist (and proud of it)!
Teh funny ting is I could get behind a campaign like this.
The hypocrisy of Jesus, Jeez?!?
I would get rid of the line about killing me to shut me up. Pat Robertson might issue a fatwa a la Chavez!
dreamcatcher @ 145
Dang, Dreamcatcher, your vocabulary! Please explicky fecumd.
I’m Chocolate Jesus! And so is my wife!
Wouldn’t it have been hilarious if they let the show go on, and one chocolate Jesus fed all of New York? :)
darkblack @
177
A White chocolate Jesus. I’ll bite!
EvilDrPuma @
29
Looks like about a 10YR 5/4 on my Munsell chart. Maybe a 4/4. Do I win? What do I win?
To quote (I believe) the Animals:
I’m just a soul whose intentions are good!…oh Lord, please don’t let me be misunderstood.
If you actually knew me, you would understand that I DO believe those to be the most important questions imaginable. And, that if I wasn’t in agreement with the general philosophical response thereto articulated on this blog, I wouldn’t be here. I’m no troll! (don’t even think I could technologically pull it off, even if I wanted to.)
All’s I’m saying is……sometimes the subjects raised here are worthy of a lot more nuanced treatment than what they get…..and *OK* I’ll admit I state this mostly in the context of Mideast issues OTHER than Iraq.
LICK YOUR LIPS
Terry Olson @ 182
fecumd is what your health insurance megacorp does every time you see your doctor
right before doing it to you.
billy furious @ 190
perhaps with a bit of Godiva liquor.
white, of course.
(welcome billy furious!)
I have never posted before (at least I don’t recall doing so) although I read the site several times daily. But I had to delurk for this brillian post.
TRex, you have long been one of my favorite bloggers as you are absolutely hilarious, but with this post you have exceeded yourself.
Nice work.
I’m watching Jesus Camp tomorrow and this post was the perfect apertif.
Wait — Andrea Mitchell sez Petraeus met with the Senate GOP caucus and told them he’d have results by Labor Day, and that’s why they went along with a SURGE they don’t believe in? And if there aren’t results, they are pulling the plug on the surge then?
And Joke Line doesn’t think it happened that way? Why doesn’t Tweety let his guests finish sentences, interrupting them to say, “agree to disagree!”
Why is a US General briefing the Senate GOP Caucus?
kirk murphy @ 189
fecumd is what your health insurance megacorp does every time you see your doctor
right before doing it to you.
HAH!
melfeasance @ 188
Sweet Jesus!
hi billy furious, and welcome!
oddmommy @
62
oddmommy,
I’m not sure what you mean in reference to the subject of the “greek chorus,” but one thing I’ve learned here is that very few people know a lot about a lot. Most have to specialize, and people go to far-reaching blogs like this one for the things that the blog does best – like looking at legal aspects of the the Bushista regime, which is done so well here.
I came here about the same time as you. I got kicked around a bit, but stayed. Even though I am no expert on the Israel/Palestine conflict, for instance, I know more about it than 99 point something of our countrymen, and have enjoyed sharing that bit of knowledge. I’ve never chased a commenter away here, and have always felt there could be more well-informed disagreement here than has been the case.
I’ve often hesitated to bring up my thoughts on the Israel/Palestine conflict here, even when it seemed somewhat germaine to other issues, but lately I’m very, very concerned that we’re headed to the biggest catastrophe in the history of our nation, war with Iran, a nation which hasn’t attacked outside its borders since before our country existed. In that war, we will probably kill over a million innocent people.
Terry, 181:
Sorry, “fecund” is not what it sounds like. It means very fertile, capable of making lots of babies. Although I guess you could call someone “f***ing fecund.”
montag @ 178
yes.
oddmommy- I wasn’t sure about your first comment, but now, may I say please stick around and join many of us who are interested in debating that touchy subject.. (just my two cents, ok a nickel for inflation)
To Billy Boy Donosue:
Everyone should know this by now…Nobody f#ucks with the Jesus!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dmv…..mp;search=
(warning: adult language at this link)
melfeasance @ 187
‘Never has the Lord been more toothsome’
;>)
And I agree with the above comment abotu Donoghue. He is a media exploiter getting wealthy. But part of his complaint is that Jesus is darkskinned. Based on my own wingnut family it looks to me that Christianity has been caught up in racist modes of thinking.
I think it has a lot to do with the fact that Republicans have brought together diverse groups that should have nothing to do with each other: racists, evangelicals, the wealthy and gun fanatics. Somehow the rhetoric of each group gets crossed, and, in a Foucauldian manner, the rhetoric of one group sets down roots in another group and eventually transforms that mindset to match the rhetoric.
Jesus will be nothing if not blonde-haired and blue-eyed to these people. Try suggesting that, given the way things like different georgraphical locations work, Jesus would not be white to some Christians. It goes over well!
TRex, that was awesome. Ahhh…Chocolate Firedogs barking in the night.
I’ve often said that the Body of Christ is delicious.
Honestly though The Craplick League is so off the wall. If anyone has heard my “Safe Sects” song, I wrote it in response to one of his ads in the subway almost 12 years ago when he called the Surgeon General a Condomaniac.
TeddySanFran @ 191
Is Andrea going to say tomorrow she was just drunk when she said that?
How bout that clip of I Love Lucy that Tweety played with Ricky flipping Lucy over his knee to spank her – in order to compare it to the Clintons’ marriage?? The camera panned to Andrea and she was appropriately stony faced, and that Bloomberg woman had a grim, “wtf” smile pasted on….
I can hear all the TV producers that keep putting this child on the air…”He’s great TV!” They never stop to think that more people probably stop watching their networks because of this nonsense than start watching. The meteoric rise of blogs, Olbermann, Air America Radio (despite all their missteps), shows that there’s a great untapped ‘market’ out there starving for honest, intellectual journalism.
in re chocolate jesus, art, politics and comedy:
“If Jesus had been killed twenty years ago, Catholic school children would be wearing little electric chairs around their necks instead of crosses.”
– Lenny Bruce
pseudonymous in nc @ 129
OK – that does seem miraculous.
But so does a quadrupedal mammal sans opposable thumbs or visible means of support ambulating about in a bipedal manner carrying baskets of avian gametes and placing them under shrubbery.
Every time Donohue opens his mouth he exhibits the tremendous depth of his derangement. Yep, to display an anatomically correct chocolate Jesus at anytime of the year in a window of a NYC hotel is an abomination to Christians everywhere. Donohue squealed that would be the equivalent of the US issuing a swastika postage stamp. Sure it would, Bill. Now come here and take your medicine like a good little religious zealot.
Sculpting anything out of chocolate is not any easy task. If it’s too warm you’ll have little definition. If it’s too cold, it becomes brittle. I can see how sculpting a loin cloth wouldn’t work nor, as noted above, is it historically accurate. A fig leaf is just plain dumb. So this chocolate Jesus is anatomically correct. Big deal. I’m reasonably certain that Jesus was anatomically correct too. He certainly had substantial cojones to take on Rome. I think Donohue’s real problem with this Jesus is that it was “chocolate.” If so, that’s surprising given that one of the most revered icons of the Catholic Church is Madonna of Czestochowka AKA The Black Madonna.
I’m willing to bet that if, as he claims, Donohue actually made made calls to Hindus, Muslims, etc., to join in his hotel boycott campaign would have been met with howling laughter followed by “You must be that crazy Donohue fella.” Reminds me of Colbert’s bit about “his black friend.” I can see it now, Bill Donohue and Muslim friend. Yeah right.
Bonkers Billy almost completely flipped out when Cavallero suggested that Donohue was such a nutcase that (I’m paraphrasing) “people in his own organization wished he would resign.”
AF
WaPoO chatz tomorrow; questions accepted anytime:
Congressional Reporter Shailagh Murray at 11am eastern
Media Columnist Howard Kurtz at Noon eastern
Now I know why the Knights who say Nike always wanted shrubbery.
Don’t wear clothes that say Nike.
There was some question recently about Donosue’s organization violating their non-profit status, alot! Some people here were looking into it. Has anyone heard any more about that?
SubwaySerenade @ 182
Ha!
Man I fucking hate the WaPo redesign, I can’t find anything, it just took me 3 minutes to find the FRONT PAGE A1 article about how top prosecutors’ jobs go to Bush insiders. It is so dumbed down that people actually looking for hard news have to click through numerous pages, plus I can’t find the chat links. And they got rid of the “politics” link. I guess health and entertainment are more important.
How about Electric Jesus that picture of the Iraq with a black hood over his face and his arms spread like Jesus hooked up to electric wires. Electric Jesus could be the symbol of our killing more Iraq’s than Saddam did and torturing I don’t know how many Iraq’s to bring them Democracy. But yes I swear the Chocolate Jesus Pledge! From now on at our secret meetings call me Brother Chocolate Mocha Cinnamon Sprinkes! Praise Chocolate to the Highest! Beware geneticaly modifed Franken Chocolate I hear it’s the Decider’s Favorite!
Sparkles the Iguana @ 204
Are you kidding me? Please tell me you are.
Margot @ 215
nope
he really needs to go into a treatment program, the perv
Margot @ 215
Nope. Tweety said Bill was a huge I Love Lucy fan and he proceeded to play this loooong clip that ended with a spanking. Did anyone else see this? I’d like to see a transcript myself, but Andrea definitely did not look happy.
late to the thread, but AMEN! TRex!
I’m a chocolate Jesus too!
(and I think Donohue has a problem with the color of Jesus, not the materials and not the pen*s)
TRex @ 41
Coming in late.
But, what if he had used white chocolate?
You think that might have mollified Mr. Donahue?
Would it have the Chocolate Jesus more palatable for Mr. D?
bonkers @ 204
These are, after all, the same people who think, when confronted with sagging ratings, “must not have had enough stories on Anna Nicole Smith….”
Sparkles the Iguana @ 212
I think it’s a deliberate move to cut down on smartass comments from politically-oriented readers and webvisitors. It’s intentional.
So are we the First Church of the Chocolate Jesus?
Women can’t be priests unless they let men be nuns?
I DON’T want us to f**k with Iran more than anyone else here does, for any number of reason, ranging from the fact that I believe it’s the last card that psycho-retardo George and his evil-incarnate masters have left to play, from the fact that I have cherished Iranian friends.
However, the Iranians ain’t good guys….and I have ZERO tolerance for anti-Semitism of ANY kind, let alone a regime that denies the Holocaust and vows to obliterate Israel. FWIW, I’m not Jewish…..but I still believe that the Holocaust is a horror unprecedented in human history…and that it DOES justify the existence of Israel….and furthermore I’m tired of people mouthing off about the Israelis telling US what the f**k to do, when anyone with any sense knows it’s the other way around. Oh…..unless we’re going to blame “American Jews”?
Ed*ard Teller @
163
And that was pretty dang funny. No W’s throughout the White House. Did the republican frat boys laugh? No, because they had been one-uped by the Clinton crew.
…wait till you get to the creamy filling…
Eating chocolate Jesus and drinking sanctified wine would give me a massive HEADACHE!
I guess I’m allergic to Candy Catholicism.
zig alert
Sorry I don’t smoke zigurats…
Y’all do know: that missing-Ws thing never happened, right?
Imagine if the artist went to Donohoes church and just laid the chocolate Jesus out on the sidewalk in front on a warm Spring Sunday. He could bring a video camera along and see what their reactions would be.
Do you think they would let the Chocolate Jesus melt?
Would they attack the Chocolate Jesus?
Woul;d they eat it?
Would they put it into a freezer?
What a quandery!
…and The Craplick League never seems to get upset when a sacred image appears on the tile of someone’s shower. Folks line up around the block to see the ‘miracle.’
Most of those folks think Donahue is a saint.
kirk murphy @ 172
I have 2 bunnies ;-)
Since the whole eatin ‘Jesus thing is essentially symbolic of consuming the pure sacrificial lamb (or was it the scapegoat) on the Passover…why not eat a Chocolate Jesus? What would be a greater sacrifice than chocolate!
And I notice that Donohoe isn’t out trying toprevent kids from eating chocolate bunnies and eggs…those flagrant symbols of pagan sexuality!
Yummy, yummy, yummy…I’ve got luvvvvv in my tummy!
TeddySanFran @ 228
How can we miss him when he won’t go away?
SubwaySerenade @ 230
EXACTLY! Why isn’t it a miracle that God gave this sculptor the skills and the medium to create an image of Their Lord? Toast, mold, burritos — all miracles. Chocolate, not so much.
TeddySanFran @ 229
but, an excellent legend, nonetheless
;-)
Corpus delecti…cious…yummy body of Christ!
TRex @
123
Went to check my birthday and found Amy Winehouse.
oddmommy @ # 223,
When I push a point here about the conduct of our government, I don’t say “Americans” for the Bushistas. When I talk about the conduct of the Israeli government here, I don’t say “Israelis” or “Jews.” When I talk about the conduct of the Iranian government, I don’t say “the Iranians.” After all, 40,000 Jews live in Iran, doing far better in most cases, than the people of New Orleans.
What does the president of Iran’s bizarre beliefs about Nazi horrors have to do with Iranian military capabilities, anyway? He doesn’t even have control of the Iranian armed forces.
Why isn’t Bill O’Reilly on the board of the Catholic League? Maybe they caught him making a falafal Jesus…
lolo, do they live inside?
our Dutch bunnies came when my brothers and I were little – and our indoor kitties scared them so (even in cages) we had to build them outside cages. that made me sad – they are such sweet creatures.
kinda wish i’d had little rabbits when my kittens were small – but the kittens’ momma wouldn’t have been too happy…
hope your bunnies bring you joy
I’m still trying to wrap my head around “Our Lady of the Highways.”
Nuns used to pray to her before field trips. (Not to be confused with Our Lady of the Cul-du-sac.)
My problem with the chocolate Jesus is that it is heresy. Every right thinking person knows that creation was borne of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I have been touched by his noodley appendage, and it didn’t taste of mole sauce, Buster!!!
SubwaySerenade @
242
maybe if I prayed to Our Lady of the Cul-de-Sac, it would get plowed more than once or twice a winter. If I had only known she existed.
Did TRex ever get back from his coffee run to piggly-wiggly?
cinnamonape @230
What if they didn’t do anything to it and it was miraculously preserved! Bill Donohue would melt instead, from shame.
(Now THAT would be a miracle.)
Rushton @ 243
I say put a pirate costume on the chocolate Jesus. And I prefer gopher sauce to mole sauce most days. Or does the FSM church have mole sauce Fridays?
MelodyMaker @ 238
Is there a Web site where you can go to check what famous people were born on your birthday?
oddmommy @ 222
Seems like a lot of misplaced anger in this–and misdirected.
First of all, Ahmadinejad didn’t say what you think he said–visit Juan Cole’s site for a more accurate translation of the remark you mention.
Second, do think what Ahmadinejad is doing is any different than what other countries would do when threatened unceasingly with attack? It’s bravado, and stuff like Holocaust denial is meant to play to the domestic audience. After all, he came to office after Shrub’s little “axis of evil” routine in the 2002 SOTU address. When people are threatened, they retreat into authoritarianism (sound familiar?)
Third, Israel has helped cause many of the difficulties that are now playing out in much of the Middle East, so I’m not sure they deserve much sympathy and support right now.
Fourth, you can be assured that U.S. policy has been heavily influenced by the right wing in Israel and the right wing here. If it isn’t, why is no one willing to criticize Israel when it deserves criticism? We haven’t had anyone since Carter create a peace treaty worth a damn, because U.S. policy has been to promote lopsided accords in Israel’s favor, which the Palestinians would reject, sooner or later. If that doesn’t sound like undue influence, I don’t know what does. Beyond that, there’s been a long list of people in the Israeli right wing trying to egg on Bush to do precisely the inadvisable–bomb Iran, most recently, yesterday.
More likely, the situation is symbiotic–the right wings of both countries are deeply intertwined, as are their arms manufacturers and dealers.
But, truth be known, the right wing in Israel doesn’t want peace. They want continuing conflict, and have been stimulating it ever since 1967. They have used war and occupation to seize land beyond their borders. That provokes retaliation, which the right wing governments of Israel have used to create a siege mentality in the Israeli people. (Again, sound familiar?) They never want this conflict to end, because that will mean the end of their power. (Sound familiar?)
Seems to me that the authoritarians in both countries have been borrowing from each others’ playbooks for a long time….
Ed*ard Teller @ 247
My Dad’s a pirate. Your mom goes to college. ‘Nuff said.
Ed*ard Teller @
244
No need to pray, Soon there will be no winter at all. A bloody miracle, eh?
Ahh the Flying Spagetti Monster.
Pasta for I
I used to have a “Last Supper” Jell-o mold that we sometimes filled with chocolate for our stranger friends. Nobody objected to the chocolate or the jello Jesii, but they were less than life sized and clothed (at least above the table).
SubwaySerenade @
252
Is the idea of a flying cocoa monster sacriligious?
Ed*ard Teller @ 252
Probably, to Pastafarians, but if it didn’t exist, you know we’d have to invent one. :)
Ed*ard Teller @ 253
The great “I Am” is tomato-based. Do I have to draw you libs a diagram?
montag @ #249,
Well said, but I’ll make the same suggestion to you I made to oddmommy. That is to be careful about using terms like “Israelis” or “Americans” or “Catholics” when we mean “Likudnik” or “Bushista” or “Dickhead Donaho.” I get careless, too.
Montag # 249
This has been a new issue for me to learn about in the last couple of months. Really was clueless. Your explanation ties much together for this novice. Thank You.
Rushton @ 255
No, but I’m starting to crave some giant squid linguine.
I don’t think I’d wanna stay at a hotel that had chocolate nudes in the window. And the one pictured above looks more like Timothy Leary than the Nazareen, who actually looked a lot like Woody Allen, but taller.
And what’s with the pony tail? Is there a scunci?
He’s not on a cross, so why not call him The Flying Chocolate Dude? Not so much press I gather.
But as Jesus said:
Gladly, the cross eyed bear.
Ed*ard Teller @ 255
True–when I refer to Israelis, I refer to the government.
montag @ 255
Speaking of things that if they didn’t exist, someone would have to invent them, if items such as “Chocolate Jesus” did not exist for Bill Donohue to rage against, he would have to invent them…
kirk murphy @ 241
Yes the bunnies live indoors with my cats. The bunnies are box trained. They are never caged. They go outside on the patio where they have an area where they dig and have tunnels. They stay out until dusk then they come in. They are one of my greatest blessings. (like a monkey giving a cat a bath.) They are both male but I wasn’t sure when I found them one was 3 ounces and the other was 4 ounces. So so tiny. so I called the more dominant one a boy the other a girl. HA! My cats are all male thats another saga. But the cats and bunnies love each other so much. It has been an experience that I will always cherish and only wish they would live forever it has been 4 years. They are a band of brothers.
lolo
Wow, TRex, GREAT POST!
lolo @ 263
Bunnies are cool. I had a cat and a rabbit at the same time. I brought them into the house at the same time, so they got along wonderfully. In fact, we had to take the rabbit in for an operation, and he was gone for a few days. The cat slept on top of his cage until he came home….
nice animal story, lolo. makes me miss my bunny.
and now, to bed. g’nite, pups. happy april fools~!
FWIW, I posted this over to Digg, courtesy of your widget at the end of the post, in the political comments section. Hopefully it’ll spread it to a few folks who weren’t aware of eithyer the whole controversy -or- FDL.
I really got a kick out of this post as both religious bullies, like Donohue and internet rabble rouser’s like Malkin get on my nerves with the incitement of, ‘The villagers with the torches’, for their own aggrandizement. Their the worst collection of anti-american, anti-freedom extortionists outside of an Organized Crime/LCN Family or an underground terrorist cell. Yet, when attacked for their ruthless behavior, they try to hide behind their 1-st Amendment Rights. The same rights they wish both to prevent honest, freedom-loving Americans from using both for public speech and in defense against them and for the protection of those put-upon by these bastids to stop them from furthering their criminal enterprises.
lolo@263
I found out that if you separate a baby rabbit from it’s mother it makes the sound of a frightened tribble.
Ed*ard Teller @ 239
I personally don’t believe that he doubts that the Holocaust happened. It was just a way to tweak the west’s nose. Although he does not control the armed forces, he does have a lot of influence with the republican guard.
edit: Which might go a ways toward explaining the taking of the British hostages.
Thank you, montag. i so appreciate your insight and clarity.
So regret that a nation founded in response to atrocity beyond imagination has so degraded itself as to adopt apartheid -
and routine assassinations, repeated aerial bombardment of civilian multi-unit residences in dense urban areas, abduction, mass civilian reprisal, mass punishment via malnutrition, and the neocons’ fave – torture.
Can’t wait to see 242 implemented and the authoritarians in theocratic garb turned out of power: in Isr**l and here at home.
Until then, I’d love a total freeze on any use of US Treasury expenditures on behalf of Israel.
No aid – nothing – except maintenance of treaty-mandated observation posts along internationally recognized borders.
Give the Isr**li government and its policies the apartheid cut-off until they end their human rights crimes and illegal occupations.
Forty years of support for Isr**l’s illegal occupation has brought forty years of increasing danger to America – and Americans here at home.
So long as Isr**l’s illegal occupation drags on, US taxpayers’ billions in subsidies for Israel threatens America’s national security.
US taxpayers’ support for Is**el’s apartheid -
an investment in our suicide.
Such a deal.
TeddySanFran @
266
Not only April Fool’s Day, but the beginning of International Trombone Week. I went to a concert kicking off the rolicking festivities today. Saw an ex-student of mine kick some serious butt on Thom Ritter George’s Concerto for Bass Trombone. Locally, the week concludes with a concert by our UAA Trombone Trio on Good Friday.
Happy International Trombone Week, firepups!
lolo and JaneaneTheAcerbicGoblin -
thank you both – brought tears toread of your bunnies and love for them – and how tohelp them live with kitties.
so glad for that joy in your lives – and the joy you clearly bring to theirs.
Ed*ard Teller @ 270
Do they have beepers?
ET – to playing 76 Trombones with 76 Trombones – everywhere (clink clink)
Bunnies are so smart. The cats were older when the bunnies came along. I spent a lot of time integrating them. Oh and I have a cockatiel, in a cage of course and a huge aquarium. My menagerie.
kirk murphy @ 270
It seems like that the experiences at the hands of the Nazis have been fully internalized. I cannot see a whole lot of difference between the Gaza strip and the Warsaw ghetto.
ReneND @
258
Believe me–I’ve been struggling to understand it all, too.
I would guess that maybe 35-40% of the population of Isr*el gets it and wants an equitable end to the conflict. There are lots of people there fighting for human rights for everyone. They simply aren’t in the majority.
Those here who reflexively support Isr*el ascribe as many bad motives to Iran as possible, and most of them aren’t true. There are about 30,000 Jews in Iran who are Iranian citizens and they aren’t discriminated against (as I recall, they even have one or two members in parliament).
The important thing to remember here is that, regarding Iran, it hasn’t attacked another country since about the mid-sixteenth century or so. It’s not a threat to us in any way. It’s not even a threat to Isr*el–except that it supports groups intent on driving Isr*eli troops and settlers out of territory Isr*el has occupied. Any group attempting to thwart Isr*el’s aims in that regard gets the label “terrorists.” (Hezbollah is a particular thorn in that it was created, in part, by the Mossad, to drive the PLO out of Lebanon, and once that happened, Hezbollah set to driving the Isr*elis out of Lebanon, and finally succeeded.)
So much of this comes back to the CIA/MI6 overthrow of Mossedegh in 1953. With the installation of the Shah, he used his SAVAK to crush all opposition movements–including the nascent democratization movement. Had that not happened, had there been a small amount of economic equality established, the mullahs might never have gained the foothold they have now. (Even the seizure of the embassy in 1979 comes back to that event–it was common knowledge in Iran that the coup in 1953 was run out of the American embassy–by seizing it, the Iranians were preventing a similar occurrence.)
Had we not chosen to provoke the Iranians, some of the back-channel efforts to normalize relations that occurred in the `90s might have cooled things off, and, twenty years from now, there would likely be a secular government in place as the 20-year-olds today came into their own.
We attack them now, and we set back those inevitable evolutions in governance there by fifty years.
Cheers.
kirk murphy @ 271
Suzanne @
274
And then going off to party with oddmommy and montag and Suzanne, eating monster King Crab spaghetti with chocolate Jesus desserts, celebrating the beginning of five centuries of peace in the Middle East.
Ding! Honk {{{{trombone smear}}}}
Lolo, I’m smiling for you and your creatures.
TSF, sleep well – let’s not have the tsunami bugs bite.
Sleep well, Lake – I’m off to dream of chocolate (eggs. only.)
Prayers to Hygeia and Brigid for healing to find lolo and Jane …
and to all who are ailing, at the Lake or in the wide world beyond.
Bright blessings under this bright moon.
Good night, Lake.
g’nite KM and sleep well.
What do they think they are going to accomplish besides warmongering and profiteering? The end? It doesn’t make sense to me it is like a runaway train that’s going down hill. I just don’t get it. I have read the P*nac* manifesto and it includes a lot more the Ira*n. Are they going to do it all in one swoop? Get the whole axis?
kirk murphy @ 280
Night Night sleep well.
Montag, You still up?
ReneND @ 284
Yup.
Thanks, Ed*ard, for letting us know about International Trombone Week. My son and husband are both trombonists and I’ll have to do something special for them to celebrate.
MONTAG-
I’m wondering if you could recommend some reading for me. I found an old book(15yrs old) called Stealth Pacs. Is there anything you know of in a physical book? Barnes & Noble says Mearsheimer(?) The Lobby is coming out Sept.2007. Anything in between that I could read?
The unified theory of blogging.
http://lancemannion.typepad.co…..uroti.html
Good night folks. The Missus is finally asleep. Long freakin night it was too.
Don’t forget to pick up your ‘Go to Heaven Free Cards’(tm) at the door.
mutzali @
286
My wife is letting me practice inside the house for the week. I wish she’d let me do that in February when it was minus 35F!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..v=hcmodule
Democrats To Widen Conflict. Democratic Honeymoon is fixing to end. Going to explode like and IED.
HOW CLASSY
lolo @ 289
Honeymoon? They never let the Democratic Congress HAVE A honeymoon in the first place. They started working against them to start out with, even in the first 100 hours.
What am I still doing up? Hi all.
Morris Sheppard @ 293
You probably took 2 excedrin for a migraine like I did. Yuck, caffeine at 2am.
lolo @ 291
From the article –
Maybe some are starting to get it!
Morris Sheppard @ 293
Good morning.
Interesting that it is Hoyer that is starting to get it – wonder if Rahm will along with some others?
ReneND @ 294
Actually, I try not to take legal drugs of any sort.
Suzanne @ 297
I don’t hold out a lot of hope for Rahm. I hope I’m wrong, however.
ReneND @ 287
The Mearsheimer and Walt paper (the one withdrawn by Harvard) is out there somewhere. Google those two names and you should come up with it. (There’s a shorter version also available in the archives of the London Review of Books, I think.)
If you want more detail on the interplay of Israel in Lebanon, I would suggest Robert Fisk’s Pity the Nation.
Unfortunately, because of the claims of anti-Semitism by American groups, there’s not much on A*P*C in book form that I know of.
Probably the crux of the problem with Iran today (from the perspective of the Isr*eli government) can be found in Sy Hersh’s The Samson Option. That pretty much describes the reasons why Isr*el wants to maintain nuclear hegemony in the Middle East.
Another couple of books I would highly recommend to explain the current political dynamics between the right wing in Isr*el, the political right here and the religious right here is Grace Halsell’s Prophecy and Politics and Forcing God’s Hand. Those latter two may only be available used or through inter-library loan, but they are worth the effort to find–they will explain a lot about why groups such as A*P*C and J*NSA exert so much influence on American thought today.
Cheers.
Morris Sheppard @ 298
Ha. Well, I would have tried almost any old witches brew tonight.
ReneND @
287
I’m reading Ilan Pappe’s The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine. I bought it at the nearest B and N. He’s an eminent Israeli historian. Pappe’s book is far better written than is Carter’s, and the M/W tome is likely to be a grand polemic, rather than the living and accurate history, which Americans need to read. If you google Sarah Liebovich-Dar and start looking through the links, you’ll find some remarkable journalism. She wrote for Ha-aretz for years and is one of the best investigative reporters in Israel. Unfortunately, much of her best stuff is only available in Hebrew. Jonathan Cook is a Brit living near Nazareth, who has written many articles, cached here. He covered the Hizbollah War very effectively.
That’ll get ya going!
montag @
277
Interestingly, Israel had a lot to do with the establishment of Hamas:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/ZER403A.html
I get sick when I think of the U.S. toppling a democracy to impose “The Emperor of the Peacock Throne” on people who never did us any harm.
Suzanne @ 297
I think Rahm will be one of the last to get it.
montag @ 300
Thanks so much. I’m finding that it is such a wonky subject, but I feel drawn to learn as much as possible. Seems critical that we really understand it. Plus, whenever someone tries to draw a curtain around a subject, it’s best to throw open the drapes.
Sorry, at # 302, I posted an erroneous link. Here’s a link to Ilan Pappe’s book. The link I posted was to an article about some of my music, which I’d just sent to somebody elsewhere.
ReneND @ 305
I would suggest one more, but I don’t yet know the title (sounds odd, but an old instructor of mine who was born in Palestine before Isr*eli statehood has gone back there with a photographer friend of hers to do a book on recollections of ethnic cleansing from residents of a neighborhood near where she grew up, and I don’t think it’s out yet). I think she’s trying to open the drapes–I get the feeling that she thinks the government lied to her about what went on there as she was growing up.
Ed*ard Teller @ 302
Thanks ET, I hate having to play catch-up on this stuff. Every time I think I have a handle on world events, I find there is another confusing layer.
Ed*ard Teller @ 306
Ed*ard Philip Teller Munger?
Morris Sheppard @
309
LOL, as they say. Who would name their kid that, eh?
Thanks everyone for all of the links. When I’m finished reading in about June, I’ll be back to find out about all this Blackwater crap. Ha.
That’s it for me tonight, folks. G’nite all.
Sparkles the Iguana @ 213
Novakula probably had a coronary after we offered our two cents about his last OpEd piece. HA HA.
you know, I don’t always agree with progressive points of view and this one is an example
first, let me point out, I am not a chistian
chistian or not, I am not comfortable with a hotel customer being subjected to a naked Jesus Christ
I would not be comforatble with a naked abraham, a naked moses, a naked mohsmed, a naked virgin mary
now, it’s the hotels perogative to chose their art, a agree with that
I would be fine with it if this were a private, enter at your own accord display
however, as a lobby display that customers might be unaware when they enter this hotel, I’m sorry, I agree with a boycott of this hotel and I support it
Well, Illiterate Man (”Christian” has an R) — how about great art galleries, where Michelangelo’s works are? Do those count? What of his naked paintings, sculptures, etc.?
Does that count?
Grow up.
And P.S., Wanna bet that none of those who wrote boycott letters (or called — do they know how to write?) were even close to the museum? I don’t think so either. Are you in NYC? From your little room in Mississippi, who cares whether you would boycott or not?
Also, it is a hoot to see Donohue mention Jews, Muslims, etc, being as outraged as he was. LOL I bet any of thse groups are more offended by Donohue.
Good morning, pups. Today in the NYT it’s Bob Herbert and Paul Krugman. Herbert tells of a way to support the troops (me, I’d prefer a rehabilitation center), and Krugman’s column is titled “Distract and Disenfranchise.”
http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/
English Breakfast tea and Colombian coffee are ready, and bagels and cream cheese today. Have a good day.
montag @ 108
The ears aren’t the first irresistible part on this particular sculpture…
Chocolate Jesus, I’ll stop the world and melt with you. Mmmmmmm.
Another wonderful post, TRex.
Oh yum, Marion. All I have here in Ohio is leftover oatmeal, coffee, and virtual chocolate.
JoyB @ 317
Well, I wasn’t looking to expose particular predelictions in that regard. :)
Just offering different views on the subject of adoration. :)
Men in high places in the Catholic Church, if forced to comment on the horrendous Donohue, would simply state they try to stay out of politics. The Catholic League is an extreme republican political group tagged with a religious insert!
In addition to the group’s president, Bill Donohue, members of the Catholic League’s board of advisers include: L. Brent Bozell III [and nephew of William F. Buckley, Jr.]; Linda Chavez; Dinesh D’Souza; former Republican presidential and senatorial candidate Alan Keyes; and National Review Washington editor Kate O’Beirne.
About 20 or so years ago there was a stink in NYC when a piece of art called “Christa” was displayed in the Cathedral of St. John the Divine, depicting Christ as a woman.
http://www.bustedhalo.com/feat…..aPart2.htm
I saw the piece and found it moving.
completely OT, but wtf???? this man is an idiot..
Iraq is like Detroit or Chicago, says US Rep.
Havana, Mar 23 (Prensa Latina) Tim Walberg, a Republican legislator from Michigan, stated this week that most of war-torn Iraq is about as dangerous as some neighborhoods in Detroit or Chicago.
The first term Congressman who grew up in Chicago made the comment to support the Bush administration’s claim that progress is being made in a war the President says can be won.
“Well, in fact, in many places Iraq is as safe and cared for as Detroit or Harvey, Ill., or some other places that have trouble with armed violence that takes place on occasion,” Walberg told the press.
“People are walking around communities [in Iraq] as safe as they are walking around – at the very least – in Detroit and Chicago and other places,” he said. “As in any major city, there are hot zones, as in the country of Iraq…”
Walberg’s spokesperson Matt Lahr furthered the comparison with Iraq. “Soldiers have expressed optimism to the Congressman about the safety and security of the majority of Iraq.”
TRex chocolate Jesus: what could be better??
BITE ME
Neil @ 159
This is just an idea….
Dip Bill Donohue in dark chocolate and let his above named enablers lick him to oblivion. Juat an idea. Several million real Catholics will cheer.
Amen!
Awesome TRex. Just fucking awesome.
JD21 @ 97
Talibangelical – lmao
Almost too perfect a description. I hope to see that word more often in print.
“Then, he freaks out that maybe Cavallero was going to let people actually EAT the sculpture, God forbid.”
I thought that at Catholic Communion you EAT the body of christ which is the host. That was what I was taught as a child.
So Donohues beef (ha) is that we cannot EAT christ as Catholics because it has a penis shape? What?
I have been cheering and clapping so long I ended up above comment 329. Trex I love you! I wish I could get some Chocolate Jesus Head right now!
Gotta love Tom Tom Wait’s Chocolate Jesus born by Imaculate Confection.
deandra @
320
My goodness! They actually have CLUBS for extremist religious wingnuts! What’re the odds of these people finding one another by chance?
If Jesus was to have been born a mortal man…then they should be proud that he is depicted with a nice penis. Also, they should be happy that this could be a nice way to compete with chocolate bunnies and “unblend” it with pagan fertility practices, the resurrection of Attis with the resurrection of Jesus. Just hope it was dark chocolate…more antioxidants.
Also another point…they never challenge the crazies that see Mary in sandwiches, or viaducts, or pizza…so what’s wrong with a little chocolate?
aspidistra @
334
That’s because chocolate melts in your mouth!
aspidistra @
334
That’s because chocolate melts in your mouth
Real art changes the world. Congratulations Mr. Cavallaro on a brilliant piece of work. That it inspired this post for the ages by T-Rex goes to show its power.
Jesus was human. Christianity considers him edible. Help me out . . . what’s the problem here? If someone shines a mirror to your face and you are repulsed, do not blame the mirror. Or, more bluntly, if you blame the mirror you are neurotic. Smashing the mirror will not change reality.
Right, #337, who said “Christianity considers him edible.”
“Eat of my body and drink of my blood.” Nobody–not even the most fundamentalist Christians, ever said that any part of the body was off the table!
Right On!
That is full of win!
I wonder what Tom Waits thinks about this whole mess? “It’s got to be a chocolate Jesus to keep me satisfied.”
Christians do not have penises