
Friends watching oversight hearings on CSPAN, from Warner Bros. Wizard of Oz.
As we watch daily hearings expose more horrors that define the Bush Administration, we are all groping for theories that explain what the regime has done to America and why the regime continues to command support from the core of the Republican Party. John Dean’s book, Conservatives Without Conscience, describes an authoritarian mentality that drives allegiance to the Bush/Cheney regime and accounts for Republican acceptance of expanding government intrusions into the private lives of individuals. Glenn Greenwald, in How Would a Patriot Act, carries the theme further, cataloguing the regime’s pervasive lawlessness and the theories behind it, while Sidney Blumenthal’s How Bush Rules provides further insights on the ruling mentality. Three recent essays seem to confirm and expand on the main hypothesis and further reveal the monster that confronts us and still controls much of our government.
First was last Sunday’s WaPo op-ed by Zbigniew Brzezinski, in which he confirmed George Lakoff’s warning about how the wording “war on terror” had undermined and created a “culture of fear” in America.
The “war on terror” has created a culture of fear in America. The Bush administration’s elevation of these three words into a national mantra since the horrific events of 9/11 has had a pernicious impact on American democracy, on America’s psyche and on U.S. standing in the world. Using this phrase has actually undermined our ability to effectively confront the real challenges we face from fanatics who may use terrorism against us.
The damage these three words have done — a classic self-inflicted wound — is infinitely greater than any wild dreams entertained by the fanatical perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks when they were plotting against us in distant Afghan caves. . . . [snip]
But the little secret here may be that the vagueness of the phrase was deliberately (or instinctively) calculated by its sponsors. Constant reference to a “war on terror” did accomplish one major objective: It stimulated the emergence of a culture of fear. Fear obscures reason, intensifies emotions and makes it easier for demagogic politicians to mobilize the public on behalf of the policies they want to pursue.
Brzezinski goes on to describe not only the disastrous impact on America’s interests and international standing but also the effect this has had on the American sense of self:
The culture of fear is like a genie that has been let out of its bottle. It acquires a life of its own — and can become demoralizing. America today is not the self-confident and determined nation that responded to Pearl Harbor; nor is it the America that heard from its leader, at another moment of crisis, the powerful words “the only thing we have to fear is fear itself”; nor is it the calm America that waged the Cold War with quiet persistence despite the knowledge that a real war could be initiated abruptly within minutes and prompt the death of 100 million Americans within just a few hours. We are now divided, uncertain and potentially very susceptible to panic in the event of another terrorist act in the United States itself.
Exploring how this fear mentality could have seized a Republican Party supposedly devoted to brave and rugged individualism, Glenn Greenwald dissects Thursday’s column by David Brooks, who unapologetically claims that the traditional conservative notion that liberty is best preserved through limited government is no longer valid. According to Brooks (Times Select), Republicans are therefore wrong to look to Goldwater or even Reagan as their guiding saints. No, now the defining goal is security, ostensibly to create the conditions for liberty, but increasingly a self-perpetuating goal in itself. Here’s just a snippet from Glenn’s article that deserves a full reading:
And it’s notable that Brooks specifically cites the limited-government views of Cato to disparage, since Cato itself has amply documented that there are few, if any, factions more hostile to limited government principles than the Bush-supporting right-wing movement that has dominated our country. As Cato’s comprehensive report concluded:
“Unfortunately, far from defending the Constitution, President Bush has repeatedly sought to strip out the limits the document places on federal power. . . . President Bush’s constitutional vision is, in short, sharply at odds with the text, history, and structure of our Constitution, which authorizes a government of limited powers.”
But neoconservatism — which is really what the right-wing pro-Bush movement has become — doesn’t believe in any of that, and Brooks’ column demonstrates that they are admitting that more and more explicitly. Instead, it touts a radical and authoritarian nanny-statism that seeks, at its core, to provide feelings of protection, safety, and moralistic clarity — “security leads to freedom” — all delivered by political leaders using ever-increasing federal government power and limitless militarism. Whether one believes in that radical and warped vision of the American federal government is, more than any other factor, what now determines one’s political orientation.
This is heavy stuff — an authoritarian regime, cynically feeding and exploiting the electorate’s fears in order to seize and retain increasingly unlimited power, while claiming to justify it’s growing infringement of personal liberties with the inherently contradictory notion that freedom can only be protected by an unchecked executive (and compliant legislature and courts). Under this theory, the entire premise of the US Constitution is not merely outmoded; it is dangerously wrong. Neoconservatives thus have every reason to undermine checks and balances, fair Congressional elections and the Bill of Rights — they all get in the way of preserving the “security” that “leads to freedom.” In short, Bush, Cheney, Libby, Rove — these are the ultimate patriots.
There’s only one missing piece to hold together the inherent dishonesty of the theory, and for that, we look to digby’s clarifying insights. Discussing the US Attorney scandal and the disillusionment of David Iglesias, now the victim of Swiftboating smears, digby writes:
At some point you have to look past the leadership and ask why people were so willing to follow them over the cliff. It wasn’t the system that failed — it was every single Republican (like Iglesias) who looked the other way because their boy was on top and they wanted to be in the winners circle. Many of them knew that something was very wrong and yet they said nothing. They need to think about that.
It’s kind of sweet that he’s lost his faith in Bush and the boys, but it’s an illness that goes all the way to the bottom. All he has to do is look at those local fellow Republicans who proudly swiftboated him today to know that the Republican party is rotten to the core. And the “philosophy” itself, such as it is, is part of the problem — all that talk about responsibility and independence and rule of law are just talking points. This is about loyalty to a party which, when you strip all the marketing away, really exists solely as opposition to its enemy. They hate liberalism. Everything is in service to that single animating idea and has been for a long, long time.
When Iglesias failed to go after the enemy regardless of the evidence, he became that enemy. It didn’t matter how much he agreed with the party “on paper.” All that mattered was that he wasn’t loyal, period.
So now we have some insight into what Kyle Sampson meant when he said: “The distinction between ‘political’ and ‘performance-related’ reasons for removing a United States attorney is, in my view, largely artificial.”
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Good morning, Christi!
Here is to a brandnew day!
Good morning, Scarecrow!
Hey Scarecrow—
Top o’ the morning to you.
Kalliope – love the name. I wanted to name my daughter that, but was ixnayed.
JF @
4
I never knew how to spell ixnaye! The things I learn of FDL.
‘Morning, Scarecrow!
Hey, I’m working on a piece that treads similar ground. Mind if I cite you?
Sid Blumenthal at Salon summed it up thusly:
Scarecrow!
gonna have to go back and read Glenn’s piece
here’s one on Goodling in WaPo -
fyi – no info wrt her passing the bar anywhere
WaPo
We need the kung fu monkey quote here:
“Maybe it’s just, I cast my eyes back on the last century …
“FDR: Oh, I’m sorry, was wiping out our entire Pacific fleet supposed to intimidate us? We have nothing to fear but fear itself, and right now we’re coming to kick your ass with brand new destroyers riveted by waitresses. How’s that going to feel?
“CHURCHILL: Yeah, you keep bombing us. We’ll be in the pub, flipping you off. I’m slapping Rolls-Royce engines into untested flying coffins to knock you out of the skies, and then I’m sending angry Welshmen to burn your country from the Rhine to the Polish border.
“US. NOW: BE AFRAID!! Oh God, the Brown Bad people could strike any moment! They could strike … NOW!! AHHHH. Okay, how about .. NOW!! AAGAGAHAHAHHAG! Quick, do whatever we tell you, and believe whatever we tell you, or YOU WILL BE KILLED BY BROWN PEOPLE!! PUT DOWN THAT SIPPY CUP!!
“… and I’m just a little tired of being on the wrong side of that historical arc.”
[end of kung fu monkey quote]
As Mrs. FGD noted last night, 662 days left is still 662 days too many.
Morning, everyone. Some interesting things this morning about our Republic brethren and sistern.
HuffPost declares that Sampson said “I don’t remember” 122 times yesterday. Oh, lordy, the poor little chump has Libby Damage!
And The LeftCoaster names nine GOP senators who voted three times in the 1990s to “slap such limits (as pulling Iraq funding) upon Bill Clinton to end the Somalia and Haiti deployments.”
So much for unprecedented, per McCain et al.
I do not like these people.
Good morning everyone. Today almost feels like Spring, though we in Mass won’t see leaves until nearly May. There are crocus and tulip shoots starting to emerge.
Phoenix Woman @ 6
Be my guest, but cite them; I’m just compiling what others are saying. This is rich territory.
legaleze @ 7
Yeah, good insight. What gets me is not the confrontation but the dishonesty, as when Bush repeatedly says the Congress is refusing to fund the troops, when both House and Senate bills authorize every dollar he asked for current operations, including the surge – and the funding continues through next year! The bills essentially ratified the surge, funded it, and give it “the chance” the neocons begged for — and they can’t even admit that. Instead, they just lie.
The Bush administration tapped a deep vein in the American subconscious. It’s been there probably almost since the beginning, but in my lifetime it surfaced virulently under McCarthy, and less virulently but more insidiously with Reagan. I recall a friend — once very active in Democratic electoral politics — who went over to the Dark Side in the early 80s. He was originally shocked by the anti-war demonstrations in the late 60s, which shook his sense of what patriotism was, but what drove him over the edge was probably the Teheran hostage taking. All of us were pretty angry at the time, but some never took a deep breath, as Speaker Pelosi thinks we ought to. I remember asking him why he adored Reagan, and he replied, ‘he makes me feel better’. I replied, ‘feel-good’ is not what politics is about; it’s what fascism is about.
That’s what we’ve got.
On another related topic. Did anyone get the sense that Sampson was simply ‘working towards the Fhrer when he suggested that Fitz be put on the list. One reason why there is a lot of missing documentation of top down orders in the German files is because the lower-downs knew what would please their Leader. It’s all of a piece.
g’ morning all… it IS Friday, right?
What’s left of the Republican Party?
I would say: the courts.
They’re going to have a lock on the appeals system for a long, long time.
barbara
following your lead -
have thought for some time now some enterprising hippie should compile soundbites from Hannity and Limpballs – exhorting US military personnel to desert – rather than serve in Kosovo
Good morning scarecrow and everybody.
Great post—as usual.
Brought to mind James Carroll’s piece in the Glob last monday on our moral reckoning and the inner sorrow we feel as result of the actions of this administration.
Scary and sad at the same time. I can only hope that the oversight we are seeing is only the beginning. We are going to have to tear the government down to the foundations and build it back up again like we would with a house that has a mold infestation.
I have never used this term in my life to describe an American administration, having always found it to be an over-the-top rhetorical device. However, after reading the piece and the links and seeing for myself exactly what this administration is trying to accomplish, there is only one philosophy to describe the type of governance that these guys were (are?) looking for.
The philosophy is Fascisim.
Yessireee Bob. Authoritarian Rs.
Never underestimate the extent to which they’ll go.
Actually, I’m pretty ashamed of my country. When you read the history of Germany after WWI, and try to put yourself into their shoes, you have a better understanding of how Hilter could have come to power. War reparations. Dysfunctional democratic structure. Hyperinflation. Depression.
All the U.S. had was the deaths of 3,000 citizens. (I live 5 miles from Ground Zero, so don’t get on my case for minimizing 9/11.) And yet how far along the road to fascist authoritarianism we went.
It’s not just the R party fault. The blame is much more widely shared because so many so easily bought into the power trip that W was all so willing to lead.
Hi there, pups.
I was just reading Brad deLong’s list of yesterday’s bookmarked pages. On it was this total gem, and I wanted to share it with you all. The blog is “Unqualified Offerings”, which I had never looked at before.
Here’s the closing paragraph, a doozie.
Fear of being differnt keeps the bushies in line all on the same page. Fear keeps them unifed they all recite the same talking points, granted we ARE disorganized and argue alot but the competion of ideas means that we have differnt and quite often better ideas. bush on the other hand is the decider and his organization runs their minds. Exporting democracy to Iraq is essential for bush because he fears what is differnt after all if other people CHOOSE a differnt path THEN MAYBE bush’s path is not the best one. bush/authoritarians can’t handle the thought that they gave up their indivduality to follow a path that MIGHT NOT BE THE BEST ONE. This does not compute for them its a thought they can’t even think about a blind spot in their minds so like a Dalek (sp?) he must destroy that which resists his Borg asimilation tendencies.
OT, re: Roots Project beta site
If you set up your account and start posting some of your own content to your own blog there, Matt Browner Hamlin and I will be looking daily for original material generated by the community to promote to the front page. You’ll also WIN FREE STUFF.
Well, maybe not, but anyway, it’s next generation Internets that we’re building, and you can be a a part of it. Check it out. So, um, yeah.
These neo-Cons that got us into the War on Terror live in their own world. They don’t listen to the msm because it is left-wing. They read books that truly believe that Islamics are going to be taking over Europe in the next 50 years. IT IS TOTALLY WARPED! But that could be one of the reasons they are following them “over the cliff”.
The other reason is POWER. As long as there is a war going on, it gives Bush power. The closer he gets to Absolute Power, the more corrupt he becomes. If Bush extended his term due to a cooked up “emergency”, what would happen? Would we take him to court?
The War on Terror is as useless as the War on Drugs, but much more expensive and damaging. The War on Drugs hasn’t made Colombia any safer, or drugs any less available – in fact, it’s made drugs stronger and overcrowded our prisons and alienated South America.
eCAHNomics @ 21
Last weekend, PBS was showing Judgement at Nuremberg, which I hadn’t seen in years/decades? I was struck at how relevant it was. We need a Spencer Tracy figure staring at us and asking, “what did you think was happening?”
‘Morning, FirePups!
Good question, Scarecrow, what’s left of the Republican Party? That is the sorry part; they still think they are a party. They are where the Dems were in 2002; at that point we were pretty much “Anybody But Bush” and not yet regrounded in our progressive, liberal values.
But now what is left of the Republican Party is “Anybody But Democratic”, suffer from DDS (Democratic Derangement Syndrome) and have little in common from one end of their spectrum (libertarians) to the other (fundie theocrats) save for DDS. As we’ve discovered, it’s simply not enough to be against something — but they’ve lost their way to be for anything.
That is part of the fear-based philosophy upon which they’ve fed, being against “the other”. At some point anybody and everybody is “the other”, whether they’re your brown-skinned neighbor or the gay waiter serving you or the single mother working the Walmart checkout. The Republicans have painted themselves into a corner being against everybody. Who in their right mind would choose to be stuck in that same corner, and with people unable to see that they did this to themselves?
The last graph in the Carroll op-ed:
We’re all in this up to our eyebrows. And we have to put a stop to it ASAP.
Scarecrow @ 26
Last weekend, PBS was showing Judgement at Nuremberg, which I hadn’t seen in years/decades? I was struck at how relevant it was. We need a Spencer Tracy figure staring at us and asking, “what did you think was happening?”
Little “Inherit the Wind” action wouldn’t hurt to get these thumpers to cool it too! “A really big fish”.
Knut Wicksell @15
Thank you. I just barely remember the McCarthy era. I was much too young to know what it was about but it seemed pretty distateful. As for the 60s, they were one of the best decades last century-great economy, civil rights and, at the end of the decade, THE PILL-meaning freedom.
Imagine my shock when I learned that there’s a large group of my fellow citizens look back on that activity as sinful and wrong. But there they are and we better figure out how to keep them in their cages or the rest of us are doomed.
I watched Judgement at Nuremberg too. I seem to tune in to it every time they play it if I can. So many lessons not learned.
Did we really need the last 5 years to know that in order to have a secure America, we would have to exchange a free country for a police state? Please.
@clb @8 Check TPM Muckraker, someone there found our Glorious Goodling on the Virginia Bar. Barely.
And now the Iranians are parading those British sailors before the cameras. And post-Gitmo, post-Abu Ghraib America doesn’t have a moral leg to stand on.
More war on the horizon.
I’m with Digby on Iglesias. Things were fine until he got in the way but he’s still on board as a believer. Cummins also said he remains a Republican. I’m waiting to hear from Lam and the rest but don’t have much hope they fully understand what has happened/is happening.
Imagine my shock when I learned that there’s a large group of my fellow citizens look back on that activity as sinful and wrong. But there they are and we better figure out how to keep them in their cages or the rest of us are doomed.
Everyone is doomed not matter what, depending on your understanding of doomed anyway.
BTW, I’mlistening to democracynow–have Zimbardo on, conductor of Stanford prison experiments who’s pumping his rehash in a new book. He was also on Daily Show last night. Not exactly OT for current discussion. How easily we all buy into power trip or fear trip, depending on whether we were randomly chosen to be guards or prisoners.
‘Morning.
I have been thinking about the Sampson hearing yesterday, and particularly that bit of kubuki bwtween Snarlin Spector and Schumer towards the end of the day.
Earlier, Spector made a big deal about the fact that even if the DOJ had fired Fitz, he could’ve still continued to serve as the SP (he cited some statute).
Then later, when Schumer tried to get Sampson to reveal the 3 names which were in the Iglesias list, Sampson choked and Schumer went into high interference mode, and basically gave Sampson permission to not remember (yeah, right).
I think that the Senators are very well aware of who was on that list. Already. And I am wondering if one of those names isn’t Patrick Fitzgerald? And that is why Schumer wanted Sampson to say the names in public, to show that he was lying about having only mentioned Fitz once.
At any rate, there was something on that list that made Snarlen very nervous..
Brezinski’s discussion of the “culture of fear” reminds me of Michael Moore’s “Bowling for Columbine”. At the end, Moore shows the differences between U.S. television news and the news of other countries. In other countries, we see talking heads arguing about government policy, with limited coverage of crime.
In the U.S., all news programs reach out to find some horrid violence, missing child, fire, wreck, and so on, so that everyone runs around in fear of serial killers and child abductors, thinking that it happens all the time and everywhere. At the outset, the war on terror fed on 9/11 and the generalized fear culture,and made people really afraid. The administration used that and pounded away at the danger of WMD in Iraq to start that war.
But there has to be repetition of the stimulus, and when we didn’t have any more terrorist strikes here, and it turned out that there weren’t any WMD in Iraq, and all the other lies of the administration began to seep into people’s consciousness, the fog of fear began to dissipate.
Hannah Arendt talks about totalitarianism as if it were a storm, a roaring vortex that sucks the normality out of society. When the winds die down, people return to their normal selves, somewhat shamefaced, and get on with their lives. I think that is happening.
Sally @ 34
Yeah, these US Attys were all smart, educated, hard working, honest and even “loyal” in the good sense, but it wasn’t enough.
legaleze @ 7
After the election, one of my neighbors lamented the fact that the Dems were probably not going to be able to accomplish much given the narrow majority they have. I just mentioned that the main thing was to stop the downward spiral and tie Bush up for the remainder of his term.
We will see.
Scarecrow, along with the fear-mongering and authoritarian overreach, don’t forget the pervasive corruption.
And that isn’t just a feature of the Bush-Cheney crowd, it came along with the Congressional Republicans.
masaccio @38
Yesterday there was something somewhere about how parents are going batshit over fear of assault or abduction of their kids, whereas the probablity of this happening is almost infinitesmally small. Yeah, I know, low-probability-high-consequence event, but still you have to get a grip.
The Berlin wall was one of the most powerful symbols of the failure of communism. Today’s walls (Israel, U.S. southern border, Saudi Arabia against Iraq to name 3) are a powerful symbol of the ascendancy of fear.
Hmmm… Our army navy and marines at the breaking point. Our national guard now very close to being unable to respond.
And yet, Blackwater is ready, practiced, equiped, wealthy, powerful. Blackwater is also not responsible to the american people.
~ ~ Mercenaries ~ ~
Wealthy and powerful mercenaries in the employ of and beholden to the Bush Regime.
Am I the only one who thinks this is a little bit stinky??
Estate es moi (sp?) bushie is the state he sees what benefits himself the wealthy as whats best for everybody after all he did not sacrifice his indivuality and move up the hierarcrhy to consider other people’s points of view. His acts to strengthen the presidency, make the rich richer, ensure GOP domination FOREVER in his mind help himself of course and the Country. He is rationalising his actions like a small time thief does he therefore can’t empathize with other people’s/cultres because that would make him doubt himself and his actions. Still he can play a great game of pretending to care hummoring those who still believe in democracy even while he is screwing the country. Like a child who says I love you over and over again while they bite you, or smash their new doll. Bush is a twisted kidde who never grew up!
ifthethunderdontgetya @ 41
Yep. And because it supported the party, it was okay.
ifthethunderdontgetya @ 41
I think corruption is highly correlated with authoritarianism. You know power corrupts & absolute power corrupts absolutely.
EPU’d — Too early in the AM for me to be able to skim coherently — so may I ask… where is the drunk Ann vid (referred to on the prev thread) visible on-net, pls?
TIA :)
hey bugboy thanks !
raven – Inherit The Wind is one of my favorite films and watched it myself for the first time in a while last week – was pleased to see how well the writing has held up
I thought for some time now that the only true words Bush ever spoke were on that aircraft carrier, “Mission Accomplished” because the mission was to disrupt and create havoc in the ME.
The other thing I have thought for some time now is that our struggle for freedom seems to be from inside one of these Russian Marisotschka dolls (dolls within dolls). Every time we seem to struggle out of one layer, there is another fearsome “doll” surrounding us – whose agenda we do not understand from the level on which we are struggling. All we know, really know, is that none of it is in our best interest.
Occasionally, however, the outer Marisotschka doll is showing her slip. And every time I see that slip, it is embroidered with the initials of one James Baker III. The slip showed in the 2000 FL election, when one young boosh nearly did not deliver … the FL election that is. The slip showed again, when the Infant King screwed up in Iraq and we had the Iraq Study Group (one of its members is now, of course, Secretary of War).
I am sure the slip will show again very soon. Want to bet? I just wish I knew how to tackle this big, big Marisotschka doll out there …
I have to head to a meeting at work, but Christy will be along later. Be good. And thanks for the great comments.
S.O.S. from MA @
47
right here
Re British sailors on camera, how would we object, by saying it’s against the Geneva Conventions, which we abdicated?
SB_Gypsy @ 43
0.
9 billion can buy a lot of mercenaries. Does anyone think we’ll get a chance to fight them over here?
eCAHNomics @ 42
At risk of being branded a Kumbayahoo, I think it is essential that Dems take down our metaphorical walls to ensure that moderate Republicans feel relatively welcome on this side of the great divide.
In our (my) haste to label All Things Republic intrinsically evil, we’re broad-brushstroking the whole magilla.
I’m not smart enough to know how this can be changed, given that perception is reality. And we have the GOP everlastingly stirring the pot that portrays us as elitist and somehow less than.
Would someone please translate me to myself?
We’ve found some slow-motion reverse video of
the demise of the key players in the Repug party.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS_tUaZaQ3g
lina @ 33
In fact, the Iranians appearantly good treatment of the British hostages makes us look that much worse.
Probably OT:
As communication is continually evolving and as the Rebublicans are ever-parsing, it seems to me not to be sufficient to ask Sampson if he emailed or spoke on the phone with Karl Rove.
Instead, the question might be more like, “What form did communication take between the two of you, including messages from third parties?” or “How did you learn of Mr. Rove’s opinions, plans or priorities?”
. . . if he can remember or recollect.
S.O.S.
probably can get it over at youtube – but then you’d miss this hilarious comment thread – replete with Firedog guest stars
TBogg
SB_Gypsy @ 43
Blackwater was founded and is owned by a far-right, wacko christianist..I doubt that he thinks he is a tool of the Republican Party or of George Bush. I suspect he thinks he is in the service of the jeebus.
Morning all. Nothing like turning on MSNBC to see Dan Gerstein’s mug to make a girl want to toss her coffee. Blergh.
Mornin’ Christy!
blerrgh indeed Christy – your warning came too late to this now nauseated hippie
good god – he redefines smarmy
What’s the next step for Congress? Subpeonas for Rove and AG and Miers? Is there a course of action they have planned? Anyone know?
Lots of us believe that the principal purpose of the war on terror is to enable Republicans to get rich. If so, it is working.
Piketty-Saez data in yesterday’s NYT.
cbl @ 48
Isn’t Gene Kelly amazing too?
RevDeb @ 28
thank you, deb, for that Carroll op-ed quote… and the reminder it gives that our call is to much, much more than opposing today’s republicans.
twolf1 @ 51
Tnx twolf1. Un-be-freakin-lievable!!!
:)
Wot else is she gonna watch, after all… the rest of her TV is filled with images of death from our adventurist war in Iraq, potential death from the next one (God forbid it!), and the implosion of Wingnuttia… Payback’s a bitch… :)
Well Annie-girl, that was YOUR “last chance to leave us with a good impression,” and you NUKED it. BwahaHAAA.
ifthethunderdontgetya @ 41
Is it too much to hope for that Bush’s ultimate legacy will be that he shrunk the Republican Party down to the size where it can be drowned in a bathtub?
Nice post. You’re right, er, correct! These scary neocons must have Barry Goldwater turning in his grave!
I think when the history of the Bush administrations is written, this shameful cast of characters will have been judged rank amateurs. Dangerously, chillingly, wastefully, ignorantly, bloodily so.
But some shame falls to us for dreaming that Oz was better than Kansas, that Bush as Wizard could protect us from the Wicked Witch better than Auntie Em.
And was I dreaming, or did Kyle Sampson yesterday look like the (ex-) Munchkin guarding the gates to the Emerald City?
Excellent post Scarecrow. One cannot overstate the shamelessness of the Neocon elitist philosophy where lying to the American public is expected and condoned.
I do think that fear has been a part of our culture over the years, from Duck and Cover in the 50’s through The Day After in the 80’s, but certainly not to the scale of the War on Terra.
Maybe it comes down to the fact that a certain percentage of our population hasn’t developed beyond stage 2 empathy.
http://www.findarticles.com/p/…..i_n8811498
This means that a sizable portion (29% or so) of our population is falling through the cracks when it comes to their social development through childhood. I’d be curious to know what percentage of this group was subjected to physical and emotional abuse during their formative years.
- Tom
We’ve become what we had despised.
We’re the New Soviet.
This is just an observation but there seem to be an awful lot of posts here that reflect fear too?
Corruption in DC can cut both ways:
Diane Feinstein resigns as chair of the Military Construction Appropriations subcommittee.
Ms. Pelosi:
Impeachment is not off the table.
Impeachment is the table.
Keep your eye on this monica goodling. The WaPo article describes her as having been with the DoJ for 6 months – but research over at TPM has found that she was involved with only four cases (slam dunks apparently) WHILE doing her job in the administration.
What was this young woman, who edited her college yearbook and was president of the messiah student body DOING to rise so quickly?
The WaPo article also states that she was a “researcher” for the repubs during the 2000 election. Who did she work for? What did she do? Therein lies the key to her rise, if not her connection to Ashcroft in regent law school.
At this point she must be sweating bullets – will providence provide a future in the repub party? or will she be sitting in prison?
With her ability to edit a college yearbook – I simply cannot believe sampson’s testimony that the firing of the 8 was a slipshod process, devoid of paperwork or structure.
Keep your eye out for monica. if the repubs have a future, she is in on it…. thick in the muck
raven @ 73
Oh, crikey, you’re right. Most of it, though, is fear of failing to do the right thing, whatever the he** that might be, don’t you think? And in so doing, we are immobilized. Which is the whole point of fearmongering.
And all they lack is a Reichstag fire.
First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.
~ Martin Niemller
Just sayin’.
sunny @ 74
Well, much as I love watching DiFi rake the neocons over the coals, I’m glad she resigned that post, if the allegations surrounding that resignation are true. And if she should face a strong new (D) challenge in the next election, let her constituents decide her seat.
I would not go so far as to wish that seat into what pitiful remainder of the (R) party that will exist at that time, though… :)
raven – yes, yes on Gene Kelly – mr. cbl had never seen it and he was transfixed by the performance
wrt your comments on fear here -
call me deluded but let’s keep it real – there’s a sociopath being directed by a psychopath in the WH, the psycho wants to take our thermo nuclear arsenal out for a test drive – I’d say a lot of our fears are reality based
Oh, crikey, you’re right. Most of it, though, is fear of failing to do the right thing, whatever the he** that might be, don’t you think? And in so doing, we are immobilized. Which is the whole point of fearmongering.
I don’t know, I mean here in Athens they banned smoking in most public places so there are these trendy little bumper stickers “I Love My Town but I Fear the Government”.
Don’t get me wrong, I love the firepups but I guess I like the NorskeFlamethrowers attitude.
“KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION!! “
JF @ 56
That is why the Brits are so pi**ed about the parade. It makes the “coalition of the willing” look like exactly what we (meaning BushCo) have been…terrorists!
HotFlash @ 53
and one day they appeared on the streets. at the intersection. in the mall. at the bank. nobody exactly knew how or why.
The other reason is POWER. As long as there is a war going on, it gives Bush power. The closer he gets to Absolute Power, the more corrupt he becomes. If Bush extended his term due to a cooked up “emergency”, what would happen? Would we take him to court?
After the election after 911, where Guiliani was replaced because of term limits, there were loud calls for him to continue. Reason prevailed.
With Bushco’s low poll numbers and with Cheney being almost universally hated, I don’t think even if there were a huge emergency that we’d keep ol’ W.
However, if there were an emergency (cooked up or natural disaster) I wouldn’t put it past the Chimperator to try to grab the golden ring. After all, he could recall Blackwater, and what would we use against mercs?
cbl @ 81
Fair enough
Someone has noted that Cheney has installed his followers in every facet of government and, like the Bush-loaded courts, they will be here long after Bush/Cheney.
After all this country has endured during the Bush reign of terror, Guiliani is popping up as our savior. The other Republic wannabe kings are scary, too, but rest assured Rudy will install his henchmen-for-profit at every level of government. He needs to be quickly outed as the thug he is but who will be able to effectively do it?
The next presidential election holds our country’s future.
montag @
17
They also have the media.
Kyle Sampson was a great example of Bushie follower. That was especially evident when Orin Hatch led him around by the nose yesterday. That was a spectical.
Wigwam @ 78
Au contraire, Wigwam; imho (and that of many others, including many FirePups, I’m sure) the events of 9/11 and the consequent Patriot Act WERE our Reichstag Fire already. Think of our USA Patriot (sic) Act as Hitler’s Enabling Act. Chilling parallels there.
And ‘way back in the 1990s, the PNAC previously wrote and publicly promulgated their plan which stated categorically that we would need a “Pearl Harbor-like incident” …
barbara @ 77
Are you talking about fear, or the reaction to it? Grief and even joy can paralyze. If you don’t acknowledge all possibilities, you risk being blind-sided. Recognize the possibilities, sort into probabilities, plan accordingly.
Scarecrow @
13
Thanks! I’ll cite them and h/t you.
Fear cuts both ways..we have to make these criminals very afraid of oversight and the rule of law. The Dems need to be ready for a very long effort; years of hearings and be willing to follow up with referals for prosection.
A example is Monica Goodling who is a really vicious piece of christianist Republican crap. They need to drag her in front of the committee and ask her questions..all day. It will be just like the Mafia hearings of the 60’s.
Something FDLers didn’t miss, that most people did, was that Bush’s fear mongering revealed a deep cowardice in the man. Some say his fear mongering was cynical propaganda to gain blind followers, but I don’t totally buy that. I think it’s ridgid and fearful cowardice at the center of the man.
Remember, everyone:
Fortune favors the bold
AND
The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.
Literally.
Fear clouds the mind.
Are you talking about fear, or the reaction to it? Grief and even joy can paralyze. If you don’t acknowledge all possibilities, you risk being blind-sided. Recognize the possibilities, sort into probabilities, plan accordingly.
“The future’s uncertain and the end is always near”
jim morrision
Road House Blues
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..y/#respond
Their Reichstag Fire was September 11.
barbara @ 77
Not exactly. I think it’s the fear that they can’t be checked, can’t be stopped until it all goes way too far (people’s opinions will vary on what that point may be).
If they don’t give a shit about Constitutional restraint and the body of law (because they now have a court system which will frustrate decent restraint) and have usurped the power they need to dominate the government–including the voting process–then there’s bound to be plenty of people thinking, “uh oh.”
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 84
I can’t recall the link, but that is EXACTLY what happened in NOLA, immediately post-Katrina. And though Blackwater Inc. said initially that its ppl were there just as public-spirited volunteers, it was later proven, and they had to admit, that they were given a MOST cushy Government contract to go there. The guys in the black uniforms with the sunglasses and VERY big guns were paid something liike $500/day while BW was billling US, the taxpayers, something like $900/day. Someone will surely find and post the source for this recollection…
So if BW shows up at YOUR mall, you’ll have the satisfaction that at least you’re paying to be subjugated by your government.
Steve @ 93
Yup. And thank you for noting that she is a Republican; the GOP’s trying to get out from under the weight of the huge karma toilet that is BushCo by trying to pretend that Bush and his immediate minions aren’t real Republicans. Nothing could be further from the truth: They are what EXACTLY Republicanism becomes when it’s allowed to operate unchecked for the better part of three decades.
‘Morning, Christy.
Got a question for you, or for looseheadprop (if lhp is out there lurking)…I need some help in modeling a matrix of a RICO outfit.
Have you seen anything you could point to in the way of an example? I’d appreciate the help greatly.
;-)
Phoenix Woman @ 95
———————
my mind goes to *worst case scenario* unhesitatingly. my partner becomes irate saying ‘you are missing this, this and this before that can happen.’
I would also say that most of the Repugs that delivered Bush in 2004 were motivated mostly by anti-Democratic Party propaganda as much as anything else. And like the anti-Jew propaganda in the Hitler era, there might have been some regret after the fact that they voted for Bush, but they still have that illogical hatred of the Democrats instilled fairly deep in their souls. So they are all looking at 2008 and just holding their breath like the rest of us. And, as I’ve said before, most of them are still glad they voted for Bush over Kerry.
Speaking of which, does anyone remember when 9/11 happened and Bush disappeared for the day? I remember hearing A LOT of people saying that, whatever happens, thank God that Gore isn’t President. Hard to believe now, but that’s where it was then. Bush had 80% popularity.
lina @ 33
Yes Lina @ 33, sadly so.
Just a great post Scarecrow, thank you!
Instead of a War on Terror, the President should have declared a War on Fear. But, alas that is not THIS president, and if we don’t get one in 2008 who will change the mantra, we will have perpetual war.
Next stop for the cornered rat: Iran, the draft, state of emergency, Romney/Jeb Bush 2008, etc. The stakes could not be higher.
itwasntme @ 94
I totally agree with this. Especially remembering him flying around from bunker to bunker in confusion and denial on 9/11.
Scarecrow @
26
One of the original Nuremburg prosecutors, Benjamin Frenecz, is alive and has lots to say.
I normally don’t do this kind of thing, but the conversation caused me to glance up at those pieces of paper I have taped around my computer. This one struck me as appropriate:
THE DASH
I read of a man who stood to speak
at the funeral of his friend.
He referred to the dates on his tombstone
from the beginning…to the end.
He noted that first came the date of his birth
and spoke of the second with tears,
but he said that what matter most of all
was the dash between the years.
For that dash represents all the time
that he spent alive on earth,
and now only those who loved him know
what that little line is worth.
For it matters not how much we own;
the cars, the house, the cash.
What matters is how we live and love
and how we spend our dash.
So think about this long and hard,
are there things you’d like to change:
For you never know how much time is left.
You could be at “dash mid-range.”
If we could just slow down enough to consider
What’s true and what is real,
and always understand
the way other people feel.
And…be less quick to anger,
and show appreciation more
and love the people in our lives
like we’ve never loved before.
If we treat each other with respect,
and more often wear a smile,
remembering that this special dash
might only last a little while.
So, when your eulogy is being read
with your life’s actions to rehash…
Would you be pleased with the things they have to say
about how you spent your dash?
Georgesimian @ 103
what i find very odd about that day is that he said he saw the first plane crash and thought ‘what a bad pilot.’
what if he did in fact see the first plane crash?
rut-roh
Scarecrow says: “This is heavy stuff — an authoritarian regime, cynically feeding and exploiting the electorate’s fears in order to seize and retain increasingly unlimited power…”
Damn straight it’s heavy stuff. But frankly, the part I can’t get ahold of is America’s apathetic reaction to it. Does it really take six years to recognize what was happening and where it would lead?
Maybe we should have given it a bit more thought, when They warned us to be prepared to seal ourselves inside our homes with plastic wrap and duck tape.
Fascism indeed, but a new & improved version, stripped of the populist elements and fortified for a very select few.
montag @98
Or how far it has gone, or how far we will have to go to stop it, if we can.
Bushist fascism = the quintessential Abusive Daddystate, coming home drunk night after night to beat the crap out of Mommy.
America is Bush’s battered wife. Somebody dial 911.
kdh22 @ 106
Thanks, I need that!
War on Terror, Operation Holy God-directed Nuke Iran, Compassionate Conservatism, whatever. Republic slogans.
Quick! What’s the new Dem tagline?
No Blood for Hubris @ 110
What’s the number for 911?
Gunga Djinn @ 109
go shopping. get married. have kids. vote. just stay wrapped inside plastic with plenty of duct tape to keep the poison air out
mummification
Let me tell you about my grandfather, the Enemy of the People.
They took him right off the street. He was a well known and popular playwright. They tried him in a secret court and sentenced him to 30 years hard labor. Later, they tried him again and sentenced him to death. They put a bullet in the back of his head and my family didn’t know he was dead until his gold fillings arrived in the mail; he had pulled them out so his family wouldn’t starve.
The day after my grandfather’s arrest, life-long friends of my family would cross the street so as not to be seen saying anything to them.
That was 70 years ago in the Soviet Union. If you think that can’t happen here, boy do I have an Archipelago to sell you, cheap!
A friendly lurker. Please keep up the good work. Don’t mean to be a morning bummer but all this has brought back some very ugly memories.
the very thing that brought me and I suspect many others to FDL
now the beauty of the place, it’s Principals, and Community is that inspired a rusty ol scaredy cat like me to get off my ass and do something – starting with some of the actions as directed from the posts – but now it is almost habit to independently pick up the phone, the fax, write an LTE, speak from a more informed place to my neighbors, hell, I even worked with (gulp) some of Rahm’s clowns trying to get a local Dem elected last November
and now it looks like the re launched Roots Project will facilitate those actions in a whole new crop of firedogs – time to get on it pups! 08 is already in motion – what are you going to do to make democracy happen ? – and don’t get tripped up – there’s plenty to do whatever your level of free time or money to spare !
NickOdemus@115:
Oh, lordy, I’m sorry. So sorry. But of course, that could never happen here . . . .
Another excellent post, Scarecrow.
Rev Deb @19, thanks for the link:
Sorry, link didn’t come with quote, and I’m having trouble linking for some reason-
Carroll’s closing remarks about our willingness to base our lives on an economy that is not sustainable and a culture with no justice was particularly apt.
I think beyond tearing the government down we really need to make a radical turn in how we live. The casual consumerism of this culture, even among those of us who try to be quite green, is the driving force of our aggression on this planet.
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 108
Link for that quote?
Mack @ 120: sorry I don’t have a link for that quote but I recall seeing it printed different places.
unless i am imagining the whole thing!
carolyn urban @ 119
Internet Explorer 7, perhaps?
Now requires you to verify that you want the script to build the link.
Look at the top of the page after clicking the link button
Temporarly allow scripted windows
Try again.
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 121
It *would* be difficult to see that in an upside-down children’s story.
The topic of “fear” reminded me of some things that Richard Dawkins (The God Delusion) said on Fresh Air a few days ago. He is a Darwinist and tends to reference things to natural selection. Terry Gross made a statement about how terrible that humans still had wars and “did bad things”. Mr Dawkins responded that it is amazing that humans have any altruism at all; that humans are “hard wired” with fear of and aggression toward people who are not in “their group”.
The Republicans and their enablers such as O’Reilly and Limbaugh appeal directly to “hard wired” human nature and demean the learned aspects of human behavior that are part of liberal thought. Rove has been especially good at getting millions of lower middle class whites to vote against their self-interest and to feel good about it. All by appealing to fear..fear of blacks, Mexicans, Arabs, and Liberals.
Mabel’s, Mack — check out this article
Four 9/11 Moms Battle Bush
Could be innocuous, but it seems quite an odd reaction to come from an alleged fighter pilot…
Mack @ 120:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgFibjRFfvU
SB_Gypsy @
43
Did you ever consider the possibility that the purpose of the surge is to destroy the nations military to make way for a take-over by a privatized Praetorian Guard.
“The “war on terror” has created a culture of fear in America. The Bush administration’s elevation of these three words into a national mantra since the horrific events of 9/11 has had a pernicious impact on American democracy, on America’s psyche and on U.S. standing in the world. Using this phrase has actually undermined our ability to effectively confront the real challenges we face from fanatics who may use terrorism against us.”
It has also served to distract AMerica from the real issues it faces, like the “LOOMING BATTLE WITH CORPORATE OIL” as soon as they loose the grip on the WHITE HOUSE!!!!!!!!!
NATURAL SELECTION, CORPORATE TREASON AND EXECUTIVE OIL!!!!!!!
AS America tries to move forward from a fossil fuel based economy, the oil interest will do what they have done for years…………
Protected their interests under the “color of law. “TREASON ANYONE”
NickOdemus @ 116
Thank you so much for sharing this story of your family’s personal tragedy. Your grandfather is a hero.
If anyone thinks “it can’t happen here,” try talking to the folks who survived the Soviet Union purges, or Cambodia’s killing fields, or the elderly woman who was my neighbor in Santa Monica, an old style radical & union organizer. When I asked her what started that fire inside her, she rolled up her sleeve- there was a camp number tatooed on her forearm.
Lest We Forget…
Steve @ 123
I quibble with Dawkins on this; there are studies that show cooperation is hard wired, too, as a methodology for genetic success. I tend to think that human response follows a standard distribution curve, with isolation at one end and complete dependency at the other. Like operating systems in computers, success is relative and over an entire genome more than one approach is necessary to ensure the viability of the genome.
In other words, there will always be some faction that is authoritarian, and others that are far away from them. Success is what shifts the distribution curve; authoritarians re-arose because they perceived they were not succeeding under a cooperative model. The pendulum will swing back and hard now that authoritarianism has failed so many; the question is whether we who are conscious of this shift will be able to push it hard enough, fast enough, and encourage it to stay there.
Steve @ 124
Rove has been especially good at getting millions of lower middle class whites to vote against their self-interest and to feel good about it.
This is the most disheartening (read diabolical) aspect of their plot. I live in the middle Midwest and know of several people (ex-friends) who fit this description. I had to back off arguing with them because they simply refused to accept the facts of the matter and all I was doing was harming my health (hypertension) by arguing with them.
My approach to liberalism has evolved into funding as much as I can to those entities that I believe in and by engaging in conversation and brain storming as happens here on FDL.
S.O.S. from MA @ 90
Au contraire, Wigwam; imho (and that of many others, including many FirePups, I’m sure) the events of 9/11 and the consequent Patriot Act WERE our Reichstag Fire already. Think of our USA Patriot (sic) Act as Hitler’s Enabling Act. Chilling parallels there.
And ‘way back in the 1990s, the PNAC previously wrote and publicly promulgated their plan which stated categorically that we would need a “Pearl Harbor-like incident” …
9/11 was their Pearl Harbor. They’ll need another incident to warrant the imposition of martial law and suspension of the ‘08 election, but the ground has been prepared.
A long time ago, there was a book called something like “When Society Becomes an Addict,” and I think the author might have been Anne Wilson Schaef. Frankly, I don’t remember much about the book itself, but the title has meandered in and out of mind for the past few years.
Not to go all psych-babble here, but there is a systemic thing that has happened during the Reign of Bush. They have succeeded in doing a stunning mind-bend over time. If you’ve ever read anything about families where the person with an addiction is at the center (both literally and metaphorically), it’s not hard to understand at least part of how we got to where we are.
Simplistic, I know, but it’s definitely part of the insidious mix. And basically what we have going on before the Senate Judiciary Committee et al is a major intervention. Which is at some level deeply uncomfortable for everyone–even those of us who delight in what is happening.
There is something immensely shaming, I think (yeah, there she goes again) about having our country’s exceptionally dirty laundry held up for such close scrutiny. We look verrrry bad. After all, “we” elected these people.
I have to believe that there is a boatload of Repubs that are shamed out of their gourds for having been complicit in electing this mess.
Blah, blah, blah.
Mornin’ all –
Scarecrow’s post is great, and the comments are great. But — and let me predicate this by saying I’m in a mood of righteous rage and indignation — we saw all of this in before 2000, before the initial electoral fraud, before the travesty of the Supreme Court’s misguided selection of a President.
We saw this beginning before the Reagan presidency, and before the October Suprise: the means justify the end, so long as the end is authoritarian rule that provides for our narrow interests. The rest of you can go f*ck yourselves, because we don’t care about your democracy, your Constitution, your rule of law, your human rights.
This tracks right back to a bunch of very cowardly men (and a few women) who are desperate to hold onto something that probably never existed: Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Karl Rove, Jeanne Kilpatrick, and many others. What they’ve managed to do, through their roles in academia, in business, and in government, is to educate, socialize, and create opportunities for young men and women like Kyle Sampson and Monica Goodling, who under the guise of some false piety, are really perfect little authoritarian he-bots and she-bots.
The answer to “what’s left of the Republican Partly” is there are a lot of those he-bots and she-bots out there. David Safavian. Jack Abramoff. Ann Coulter. Scott McClellan. These men and women will be like sleeper cells, waiting to activate when their amoral support of authoritarianism is needed. And buzz words like “war on terror” are exactly allow them to act without regard to convention or law.
End rant. Sorry. Will resume occasional drive-by snarkiness shortly.
Rayne @ 125 & Sunny @ 126: staggers the mind.
The “War on Terra” is nothing but fear mongering of the worst sort. As Americans, statistically, we have as much chance of being involved in a terrorist attack as we have being bitten by a shark that was struck by lightning.
Just follow the numbers. Statistics don’t lie, Homeland Security Departments do.
The republicans have always been about one thing and one thing only – creation and protection of wealth and accumulation of power to keep all goodies in their hands.
The over riding principle is greed. They party is like a country club of wealthy execs who play golf and do mutually beneficial business deals.
To hold power they decided to control the media because they do no want the sham of their policies exposed. Toward that end they granted corporations virtually complete freedom to do what they wanted with as little regulation as possible. Out goes the fairness doctrine. Then the rise of unfettered monopoly conglomeration of huge corporation which act with impunity… their only objective to make their shareholders richer and pay no taxes. Paying taxes is a sign of being a loser.
On the other hand.. they decided to get as much of the taxpayers treasure as possible and push for privatization of everything. The people’s assets are being sold off at bargain basement prices to private corporations who then turn around and raise the prices to consumers. Of course, with little regulation (none) or oversight… corporations and wealthy individuals who “incorporate themselves” are owning most of america these days… and polluting it with impunity in the extraction of more and more wealth.
Owning the military industrial was a spark of genius. Half of our treasure goes to corporations in the MIC and so they always need an enemy to justify these enormous (mostly non bid or cost plus) contracts. Hence you see their little security state intelligence agencies… cooking up mischief even when none is there. And there is plenty of legitimate basis for dissent out there and resentment of our essentially hegemonic “policies”.
And when someone does seem to get too much legimate populist power, they simply do an assassination and have some commission white wash the conspiracy to tbe work of a deranged individual. 9.11.. it was 19… but the wool was pulled over the eyes of the public and they got their trillion dollar war.
The revolving door works great for the generals… learn the ropes inside the pentagon.. then out into the big defense contrators and call in all the favors etc . from when they worked for the pentagon. And the generals and spook agencies make sure everyone in the states is shaking in their shoes about this enemy or that… and when things are too calm… stage a little attack, or raise a threat to the USA from some “failed state”… or faceless terrorism even false flag operation.
Of course they are not stupid so they packed the court to thwart legal challenges to their efforts… (installed their own puppet bush as president) own virtually all the media today… and even got into gaming the elections, disenfranchising voters to make sure that even if there IS real dissent by the people.. it is never heard. the country is not evenly divided… the country is completely misinformed.
Toss out international law… the UN is useful ONLY when doing our bidding and spread our military around the world to intimidate any emerging democratically elected goverment from stepping out of (our) line.
The republicans have represented the political strategy to insure the wealthy get wealthier, the poor lose any rights they have to challenge the property class. This is nothing to do with what government was meant for … as in OF, FOR and BY the PEOPLE.
In time of war.. give the rich a huge tax break… essentially putting the bill for it on the lower working classes. (The wealthy don’t work… they manage their investments!.. so why tax income if you don’t work for it?)
Living wages? Why? Labor is only something to be exploited like any commodity to extract profit. People who are born rich, get rich are the ones that count, the others who cares? Let them stay sick, uneducated, in sub-standard housing with no rights.
Fascism has arrived in the america and is called the republican party.
They want to enforce their religious beliefs on people in the same was as the Taliban does. Same deal…same type of intimidation.
They want to invade your privacy, and control your bodies… same as the fundmentalists.
When will the gloves come off and people call the republicans out on what they are – FASCISTS, authoritarian, racist, greedy lawless creeps. ALL OF THEM.
The democrats are largely republican capitalists in disguise… in that they believe that regulated capitalism can provide some equity. Not much… an illusion.
Orwell and Huxley told us it could happen. No one thought it would. They were all wrong. We have lived to see it happen in a few decades.
The worst is yet to come.
barbara @ 133
and to continue with ‘intervention’ and 12-step analogies: the ‘I don’t recall, honestly I don’t recall’ talk is sheer denial on one hand and nefarious fascist mental disease on the other.
sunny @ 126
OK
Here’s my recollection.
I heard about the first crash and actually thought the same thing.
(Ashamed that my thought processes might ever parralel GWB)
I recall flying in up the Hudson and thinking that you could reach out the window and tough the towers.
I cannot recall whether the second plane hit before i saw the video.
But my first response was not ‘terrorists’
Now, after the second plane….
My next thought after “those poor people’ was that my then 2 year-old’s future was diminished, and that Bush would undoubtably fsck up the response.
I had NO idea how bad.
OT..Some good news: “Dr.” Keroack quits.
link
anecdotal evidence The Chimpocalypse is upon them -
about 2 weeks ago, I was chatting w/ one of my regulars – Male, Middle Aged, White, Republican, Texan, Preacher
he spewed his ice tea all over and guffawed rather dismissively when he saw them trot out the Khalid Sheik Mohammed fable – “Oh no they dint!”
I know quite a few people (most but not all Republicans) whose lives are constrained by fear — of death, loss, attack, disease, danger to their children, etc. One man writes frequent shrill letters to the editor decrying articles such as Brzezinski’s. Many of us grew up in the era of “duck and cover” drills, but otherwise our lives have been pretty sheltered and cushy. Is the problem that we’ve never encountered genuine hardship and therefore the uncertainty makes us even more vulnerable?
Scarecrow @ 14
Yeah, good insight. What gets me is not the confrontation but the dishonesty, as when Bush repeatedly says the Congress is refusing to fund the troops, when both House and Senate bills authorize every dollar he asked for current operations, including the surge – and the funding continues through next year! The bills essentially ratified the surge, funded it, and give it “the chance” the neocons begged for — and they can’t even admit that. Instead, they just lie.
Excellent point. I hope that the Democratic leadership steps up and indicates your points. I would also like them to suggest that GW Bush must not be very confident in his policy if after 5 years and almost a trillion dollars, he timidly shy’s away from a timeline calling for success.
My mother grew up in Nazi Germany and her father fought in WWII. When I was a teenager I asked her how the rise of Hitler could have happened and she said that the media was controlled by him, we were all so busy working to get by and we didn’t know any better.
Sound familiar?
“The Power of Nightmares”
I walk the dog before I shower in the morning. And because I don’t think it’s fair subject people to a view of my bed hair while they’re walking to the subway on their way to work, even before they’ve had their coffee, I wear a cap. The cap I happened to grab today came from the Why Tuesday? folks, who advocate moving election day to the weekend, and having it last 24 hours.
And it got me to thinking about the fact that republicans are opposed to what is an apple pie and motherhood issue–increasing voter turnout. Every year, after every election, editorialists opine about the American voters’ failure to participate in the process, but nobody ever seems to try to do anything about it. Well, except the republicans, who try to make matters worse in this respect.
Maybe it’s time to start talking about measures to increase turnout, putting it in just those terms. What can we do to make it easier for people to vote? Who can be publicly opposed to that principle?
biff diggerence @ 72
“…when you look into the abyss, know that the abyss also looks into you.”
–Nietzsche
As you may have noted from the comment I left for Christy and lhp above, I’m up to my ears in a little research project. And I came across this abstract while looking for material:
Bold mine.
There’s a reason everything we’ve uncovered so far — the dismissals of the USA’s, the misuse of the GSA, the Abramoff scandals, the outing of Valerie Plame — all come back to the same place where the “War on Terror” originated.
Centralization. It’s why the Republican Party has increasingly become top-down since Goldwater, because it increasingly became the front for a highly centralized racketeering organization.
To some extent we give these f*ckers in office far too much credit to say that they are a “totalitarian regime”. They are CRIMINALS and they are using specific tools to con us out of our assets, including our freedoms.
But we are still free to investigate and follow their trail; we are still free to publish the evidence of their crimes as we find them. The more we uncover of their syndicate and their methodologies, the more we are immune to their criminal behavior.
I think “Kept USAttorneys” is an apt title for those who met Sampson’s criteria for good Bushies.
NickOdemus @ 116
Yes, Nick, not only can it happen here, but we are well on the road to having it happen. I hope, we can still catch up with the “Marisotschka” doll (I described earlier) and its minions.
We must connect the dots as we fight the minions who are depleting our treasury, exporting our manufacturing base, break our military, exhaust our national guard, stack our courts, and wenn they are done … the privatized Blackwater Gestapo can shoot on sight anyone who questions the “State that only want so make us safe.”
I hope I am just having a nightmare. Am I waking up now?
Holy Crap. This piece has concisely iterated EXACTLY what I’ve been trying to say to my friends and family for the last five years. EX-ACT-LY.
Zee @ 151
Psst…pass it on!
OT Kyle Sampson Hearing
The only inside look we got into the criteria of determining which US Attorney would be replaced, was a statement by Sampson stating he recommended Patrick Fitzgerald be fired. No one asked the question: Identify all the reasons given or implied for firing a US Attorney. For example, explain all the reasons Patrick Fitzgerald was recommended for termination. Etc.
As Josh Marshall put it “The charge against Sampson and crew is not that they fired them for ‘political’ reasons. The charge is that they fired these prosecutors for not using their law enforcement powers to help the Republican party.”
Having seen both the Senate and House Judiciary Committee in action in hearnins over the last few weeks, I must say that the Democrats on the House Committee are farmore organized and as a result far more effective.
Georgesimian @ 105
I totally agree with this. Especially remembering him flying around from bunker to bunker in confusion and denial on 9/11.
Projection. Soooo much of what W et al do is projection. They are afraid themselves and they offload it on us.
Never thought I’d agree with Zbig on anything, but, in this case, he’s perfectly right about the culture of fear and its effects. Then again, this has always been known, and was perhaps best encapsulated by Frank Herbert in Dune: “Fear is the mind killer.” What we haven’t seen so much of is a concerted effort to manipulate people with it, or at least not since the 50s Red Scare. And that so many have fallen for it…
Rage Against the Machine explained these Chicken Little fuckers best, in the song “Vietnow:”
While tha
paraniod try ta stuff tha void
Let’s capture this AM mayhem
Undressed,
and blessed by tha Lord
Tha power pendulum swings by tha umbilical cord
Shock around tha clock, from noon ’til noon
Men grabbin’ they mics,
and stuff ‘em into tha womb
Terror’s tha product ya push
Well I’m a truth addict, oh shit I gotta headrush
Sheep tremble an here come tha votes
Rayne @ 130
I quibble with Dawkins on this; there are studies that show cooperation is hard wired, too, as a methodology for genetic success. I tend to think that human response follows a standard distribution curve, with isolation at one end and complete dependency at the other. Like operating systems in computers, success is relative and over an entire genome more than one approach is necessary to ensure the viability of the genome.
In other words, there will always be some faction that is authoritarian, and others that are far away from them. Success is what shifts the distribution curve; authoritarians re-arose because they perceived they were not succeeding under a cooperative model. The pendulum will swing back and hard now that authoritarianism has failed so many; the question is whether we who are conscious of this shift will be able to push it hard enough, fast enough, and encourage it to stay there.
Good response..It was my impression that fear and aggression were hard wired but also that cooperation, altruism etc are hard wired also and are necessary for survival. The issue seems to be that the positive values are directed within the “family” group. To me Liberal thought expands the group to all humans. The Republican mentality needs an “us” against them dynamic to be successful and therefore their need to appeal to the less noble, hard-wired aspects of human nature. (I am way over my head here)
cbl @
141
It’s a testament to how far we’ve fallen that someone could openly confess to masterminding 9/11, and the rest of the world (not to mention most people here) either (a) shrugs, or (b) assumes we tortured him into confessing.
CHUCK HEGAL HAS BALLS AND IS CORRECT WHEN HE TALKS “IMPEACHMENT.” WHEN WILL THE REST OF AMERICAN SOCIETY TAKE VIAGRA AND HAVE THE TESTICULAR FORTITUDE TO CALL FOR THE OBVIOUS!!!
IF THE ACTIONS OF THIS ADMINISTRATION DO NOT QUALIFY AS HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS, NOTHING EVER WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!! OUR FOUNDERS ARE ROLLING IN THE PUKE THEY HAVE RELEASED IN THEIR OWN GRAVES!!!
AS MY 82 YEAR OLD “VET OF THE BULDGE” FATHER IN LAW STATED, ” I AND MY BROTHERS DID NOT FIGHT THE NAZI’S AND DIE IN EUROPE, SO GEORGE BUSH COULD FUCKING INVADE IRAQ FOR OIL.”
jayackroyd @
146
Then out of the other side of their mouths they say that most Americans are too uninformed (read: dumb) to vote correctly anyway. They really only want people like them to vote in just the way they want them to vote.
Wigwam @
78
And all they lack is a Reichstag fire.
http://www.informationclearing…..e17440.htm
Anybody held for years in God knows how many “rendition” sites would confess to shooting Lincoln!
Frank Probst @ 157
That might be because, over the last five and a half years, Der Shrubbenfuhreradministration has trotted out more 9/11 masterminds than Carter has little pills.
Fool me once–shame on you. Fool me a thousand times–shame on you a thousand times, for you are only destroying yourself.
Phoenix Woman @ 100
Yup. And thank you for noting that she is a Republican; the GOP’s trying to get out from under the weight of the huge karma toilet that is BushCo by trying to pretend that Bush and his immediate minions aren’t real Republicans. Nothing could be further from the truth: They are what EXACTLY Republicanism becomes when it’s allowed to operate unchecked for the better part of three decades.
And stupid Karen Tumulty writes in this week’s TIME:
What everyone has to realize is that BUSH IS THE REAGAN LEGACY.
IMPEACH!
Not for nothing, but I’m having one of those get out from behind the keyboard and kick someone’s ideological ass sorts of days. Just so you guys know…
(And yes, I have just finished my second cuppa coffee, why do you ask? *g*)
fool me once-you’re a bad pilot
fool me twice -shame on you
fool me again- heck of a job
Christy Hardin Smith @ 165
Cheers!
Christy Hardin Smith @ 165
Are you taking suggestions?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 165
Go eers!
Thge republicans are not a legitimate political party… they represent the wealthy.
Call a spade a spade.
Where there’s crime of greed… you’ll find a republican at the bottom.
Christy’s on a roll—
Look out world!
Kalliope @ 162
It’s gonna happen… I remember Watergate, toward the end, it was just like this. Every day, something new in the sleaze department. Fasten your seatbelts, this is going to be a good one!
hey Christy -
Congratulations to you and all West Virginians for the NIT victory – 65 years since any post season title – sweeet !
cbl at 173 — Yes, I am VERY happy about that one this morning. GO ‘EERS! (Apologies to the Clemson fans in the audience in advance for the upcoming post…)
What is left of the Republican Party?
Well, damn near everything is left of it. The only thing to the right might be fascism.
If someone bothers to draw up the articles of impeachment they would / could fill up the entire congressional record.
Did this administration do anything which was NOT impeachable?
DefJef @ 176
Hmmmm. I think the Easter Egg Hunt was OK.
The Danger of Falling for “The Plan”
..is having “Gonzo has to go” built up to such a crescendo, that when it is done, this will all be over..
Our Naked Emperor is clearly building Gonzo up to be the “High Value” target, so that when he is forced to fall on his sword, that is the final head… Rove-Sputin lives to soil on our country for another day.
Apropos of all the painful historical lessons we’re drawing and the future extrapolations we’re sharing here…
http://video.google.com/videop…..1478705121
This is about an hour-and-a-half movie called “JFK II” that is imho well worth watching.
Last week, when I did D/L and see it (and I had to spread it across some days, it was so hard to dredge up all those painful memories) I was impressed in spite of myself. Guess I’ve been brainwashed over the decades as the film itself describes; but the logic of the interrelationships of many (100% is not required) of the events and facts adduced, and their congruence with events and facts as I remember living through and reading about them, is too strong for me.
Even if only HALF of what it alleges is true, our beloved country is in mortal peril.
And I am not a conspiracy nut. Nevertheless, for me at least, “JFK II” ties a great deal of recent history all together. The roots converge on Prescott Bush, W’s grandpappy and a known Nazi sympathizer. The CIA plays a prominent role, as does GHWB (#41).
A measure of how convincing this movie is, is that I’m frankly scared to post these thoughts. But I am an American patriot and I must.
Please berate me if I’m way off base here, but it seems to me that JFK’s assination was the genesis of all that is wrong in our government today.
Puesto @ 178
Bad calculation by them. Gonzo will be blood in the water to go after the rest. That’s basically the Libby outcome. He, in fact, did not become the fall guy, but rather served as an incentive to redouble efforts to get ‘em all.
Rayne @ 148
Bold mine.
There’s a reason everything we’ve uncovered so far — the dismissals of the USA’s, the misuse of the GSA, the Abramoff scandals, the outing of Valerie Plame — all come back to the same place where the “War on Terror” originated.
Centralization. It’s why the Republican Party has increasingly become top-down since Goldwater, because it increasingly became the front for a highly centralized racketeering organization.
To some extent we give these f*ckers in office far too much credit to say that they are a “totalitarian regime”. They are CRIMINALS and they are using specific tools to con us out of our assets, including our freedoms.
But we are still free to investigate and follow their trail; we are still free to publish the evidence of their crimes as we find them. The more we uncover of their syndicate and their methodologies, the more we are immune to their criminal behavior.
rico! Rico!! RICO!!!
New thread.
Politics, the Rule of Law, and You
We are now a nation of courtiers. Our livelihoods are beholden to the people who own the companies that our 401Ks have invested heavily and the political aristocrats and kleptocrats who can ruin a career with a phone call.
Welcome to neo-feudalism.
Of course, I meant to type “assasination” not “assination” Just started my second cuppa…please forgive.
Zee @ 177
Hmmmm. I think the Easter Egg Hunt was OK.
The Easter Egg hunt was outsourced to Scavenger Resources, a subsidiary of Halliburton. Rove consulted in the hiding of the eggs and leaked their whereabouts to a few “favored guests”.
Rayne -
not that you aren’t way out in front of this -
RICO – wiki
but some good links dissecting various cases including a municipal org. (Key West Police Dept)
and hey, I didn’t know that SCOTUS is currently evaluating what constitutes an “enterprise” :)
Fresh thread, up and running for everyone.
kdh22 @ 180
No argument here, friend. I was 20 in 1963, a college junior with a firm grounding in American History and Civics, and that was the day the world spun off its axis and turned to metaphorical shit.
My wife (I’d met her the prev year) and I often say that for our elders, such a day was probably Pearl Harbor, FDR’s death, the assassination of Franz Ferdinand, the Titanic, the assassination of Lincoln…
But for me at least it was JFK’s loss. So much stems from it. And the story told in “JFK II” pulls so much history together in one congruent skein…
Neil @ 153
Agreed. Leahy and company have had their moments, but the Senatorial puff still gets in the way of tough cross-examination. They need to sit down in private with their staff and work out the tag-team strategy. They could have crucified Sampson yesterday with just a little more focus.
Aiee! The EPU Monster got me! :)
I gotta tell you, for all the gloom and doom, what gives me hope is the fact that there are so many people on here and other sites that can actually string a cogent sentence together and be funny to boot. Good to see us all come out of the woodwork.
Now let’s get these “patriots” out of our political lives and back to the burrows they crawled out of.
scarecrow -
this is a superb essay.
thanks
Steve @ 124
In my historical studies of xenophobia in the US, all tend to have three aspects:
A racial component, a religious component, and an ieological component all wrapped up in a culture of Fear) Islamophobia against the Arab Race not to forget us radical fringe liberals
Christy Hardin Smith @ 165
I’m still working on my first cup but when I finish, I’ll be putting my ass-kicking steal toe boots on too. Cheers!
Republicans are a clubby lot. They believe in the value of in-group vs out-group organization. It’s efficient at some point to know or believe your in a club of like-minded people. You can quit thinking and start mobilizing power. If the group is small enough, you can the rewards of using the power–very tangible. If the group is very large, you won’t see mcuh reward in acting together as a unit–unless you are also able to mobilize whole systems of things in your favor. Then, more in the group can see tangible results. If the tangible results in question are more power or more money as a reward for you and your group, you’ll go for it.
I think this applies to both Dems and Repubs, almost any group of anything. What distinguishes the Republicans, however, is the social network they have arranged for themselves. Like a gated community, a country club, it stands of wealth. Maybe some would trace this back to Alexander Hamilton and the power of Federal authority in money matters, but I suspect is more to do with the privilege of being privileged, the luxury of having the means and the time to collect more means and time, and associate with folks who are interested in the same thing.
Mack @ 138
OK
Here’s my recollection.
I heard about the first crash and actually thought the same thing.
(Ashamed that my thought processes might ever parralel GWB)
I recall flying in up the Hudson and thinking that you could reach out the window and tough the towers.
I cannot recall whether the second plane hit before i saw the video.
But my first response was not ‘terrorists’
Now, after the second plane….
My next thought after “those poor people’ was that my then 2 year-old’s future was diminished, and that Bush would undoubtably fsck up the response.
I had NO idea how bad.
I very clearly recall my thoughts at that exact time. I was at my computer with the news on TV. I watched as the cameras followed the second plane up the river and into the building. I immediately posted on a forum* I followed “It looks like bush* is going to have his war. Someone is flipping him off saying missle defense this!”
*Bare Knuckle Politics”, the Ferguson Foont Progressive site, an offshoot of Table Talk that’s unfortunately faded into cyberspace obscurity.
eCAHNomics @ 181
Bad calculation by them. Gonzo will be blood in the water to go after the rest. That’s basically the Libby outcome. He, in fact, did not become the fall guy, but rather served as an incentive to redouble efforts to get ‘em all.
I certainly hope you are right. But, I don’t hold the average Congress-person is very high regard, intelligence wise.
The audience is the most important aspect of a political fight. They need to be nurtured to have and epiphany. For example; I was much more impressed how Waxman handled his hearing on Wed, than the “less-than-theatrical” Senators yesterday. The audience must be brought along.
The media – whom it does no good to slam in the short run – was dead on Waxman’s which was the more effective hearing, audience-wise.
I’m of dubious nature with almost all politicians.
Excellent column. Worthy of Orwell on one of his better days. Ought to be reprinted in every church newsletter. The phrase from Kennedy’s inaugural, “Trust, but verify” (later borrowed by Reagan’s speech writers), may seem out of place in a house based on faith. But, it is the only thing that will keep a house of government from falling in on those who built it, especially a government built on such unprecedented cooperation with people of faith.
cathy @ 143
DITTO, IM OF GERMAN HERITAGE AND IT IS NICE TO NOW THAT MY RELATIVES WHERE EXECUTED BY THE NAZI’S FOR TAKING PART IN ATTEMPTS TO ASSASINATE HITLER. I WOULD HAVE STAPPED A BOMB ONTO MYSELF TO TAKE THAT SOB OUT!!!!!
PTSD from 9/11 is wearing off and the masses are beginning to wake up, and they are waking up on the wrong side of the bed…local old time Repubs in my area are ticked off; except for the conservative families that just don’t want to worry about anything and still support the original rhetoric of the government.
The quiet, methodical coup by the Neocons (obviously, at least to me, based on “other” historical regimes) will not prevail.
The blindly following supporters of, for example, the Third Reich, were brilliantly whipped into a sustained frenzy and were willing to sacrifice anything for their ruler. Although post 9/11, many people in this country voluntarily got on the truck, it has not been sustained and is clearly not sustainable. This cabal is nothing more than a sorry group of mini-me’s led by a relatively few rich, greedy, vicious men. It is the greed for money that is their undoing. The bulk of the supporters in the general society in this country will not benefit from their policies and they are beginning realize that. Hitler’s greed was for dominance, power, and control, but he wasn’t an obvious luxury seeker; the majority of the general public related to him (which brings to mind W’s fake barbeque buddy image). In this country, the corporate wealth that brought this regime to power, is gradually throwing them over the cliff, and that will end them, especially if and when the housing market bubble really begins to burst.
Let’s hope that in the end, they are held personally accountable for all of their dirty deeds.
I hope my references to historical regimes are not out of line or sounding too dramatic, but this is what it looks like to me.
Your post is timely and superb!
Elston being interviewed right now – not under oath – is behind closed doors.
James Joyce @ 128
James Joyce @ 199
DITTO, IM OF GERMAN HERITAGE AND IT IS NICE TO NOW THAT MY RELATIVES WHERE EXECUTED BY THE NAZI’S FOR TAKING PART IN ATTEMPTS TO ASSASINATE HITLER. I WOULD HAVE STAPPED A BOMB ONTO MYSELF TO TAKE THAT SOB OUT!!!!!
Thank you — again — Scarecrow. You always do a great job pulling it all together.
Two extra cents on the fear deal.
IMO, They realize the War on Terror is losing its magic, and they’re cooking up Plan B to help fill in the gaps.
There have been numerous references to this, but I’ve seed a few additional bits that got my radar going even more. It’s the DoJ major priority, announced in February by none other than AG AG, Project Safe Childhood.
Many have (rightly) reacted to this as an encroachment on the freedom of the internet and, hence, our very ability to share info & organize.
The part that’s been chilling for me is hearing the fear-mongering about all those predators out there coming to get our children.
Same song, new verse.
Josh Marshall pointed to the case of the new US Atty in MN who has recently garnered attention because her ascension rings alarms for those following the big USA story (i.e., it’s more than 8). At 33, Rachel Paulose is the youngest USA in the country. Unlike Monica, however, she’s well educated (Yale Law) and has an impressive resume, albeit likely helped by the “right” kind of friends. Big hint: she’s a member of the Federalist Society. And she was a special asst to AG, as well as Sr Counsel to McNulty. She caught attention & some shrapnel with an over-the-top
coronationinvestiture a few weeks ago.Josh’s piece summarizes the story and links to good coverage. But what hit me most was watching the extended interview conducted by KSTP reporter, Bob McNaney. The whole thing is about 50 minutes, but in taking the time to listen to it — most of which was outlining the six main priorities spelled out by the AG — I was chilled by the language of the child predator fear. (And who’s going to defend child predators, right?)
This may be another case of a young fed employee saying too much. (I’m thinking of that young NASA PR guy who got caught up in the hearing on censoring Hansen / global warming / science — too inexperienced to know not to put it an email, per Hansen.) To hear this USA do chapter & verse of the DoJ’s priorities, esp in the current climate, is definitely unsettling.
Anyway, knowing that the power of this & similar communities is sharing what we find and the strength of woven story threads, I thought I’d pass it along.
Folks, I need to say this again for the record — and I mean it, so read closely: no advocating violence or discussing violence in the comments. Period. And I suggest everyone move up to the new thread discussion before I have to close this one down. Thanks.
Georgesimian @ 186
Hmmmm. I think the Easter Egg Hunt was OK.
The Easter Egg hunt was outsourced to Scavenger Resources, a subsidiary of Halliburton. Rove consulted in the hiding of the eggs and leaked their whereabouts to a few “favored guests”.
And what happens when you put all your eggs in one basket?
Welcome, Nick!
I’m sorry to read of your family’s tragedy and your grandfather’s execution.
Thank you for reminding us of the peril we all face should we fail to stop these tyrants and their creeping coup.
NickOdemus @
116
Cato Institute is, of course, a product of oil money as much as the Blight House Junta. The people who run it don’t believe a word that’s written in its name. They pretend to hold a limited government philosophy, but what they really are after are limits on regulations that affect their benefactors. For them, philosophy is all well and good, but why should they be bothered with one?
I can’t believe the long quote from Brzezinsky containing the following:
Never, I mean, never, does it enter the mind of such a person that there may be a good reason why a ‘fanatic’ might attack. Nor does it ever occur to such a person that, maybe, just maybe, they are the reason, being in the position, as many of this ilk have been, to terrorize a whole country for now on 14 years and running.
Talk about lions, tigers, … and behs!
War is Peace.
Ignorance is Strength.
Freedom is Slavery.
The Neocons in the Bush administration have had a free ride for almost 7 years. They do not take questioning well and have little experience with it up until now.
Their inability to deal with constitutional restraints will inevitable result in a response that is akin to “So what is we are?” or “So what if we did?”
Invesstigations are helping them come out a bit and show their true colors.
In the old days, they called this type of behavior, coupled with big government, “fascism”!
The point about security as the means to liberty is interesting. Machiavelli noted in, I believe _The Prince_, that when the people say they want freedom what they really want is security.
I don’t agree that the GOP voted the way it did because it just wanted to be in the winner’s circle. Most GOP I know felt they were picking the lesser evil. Demagogs to the Left and Demagogs to the Right, BOTH of which want to use the Federal government to tell you what to do. If the GOP’s core value is to oppose liberalism (and I don’t think it is), the that is because the Democrats and “liberals” made it that way with a half century of using the Federal government to enforce their vision. Keep in mind the average Conservative sees themself as someone who is guided by common sense and morality. That means they define a Liberal as lacking both, of course.
Perhaps we should put the Libertarians in charge.
Bush Repubs need someone to hate, control and abuse. It is the only way they can find any meaning and satisfaction in their otherwise empty existence.
I am very happy to see the hearings taking place in Congress. I hope subpeonas are served soon to the principals in the White House on the varying issues. If they are not brought before Congress and the hearings do not result in serious career busters, then all will be for naught. It is also essential to show the country that these people can not be shielded by the President, must testify and be held to account for the criminal actions of this Administraton. If Congress doesn’t start getting results that serve as a leadership example, we will be toast as far as our system of government is concerned.
Dan @ 213
Anywhere else in the civilized Western world “so called “libertarians would be recognized for the kooks they are.
“What’s Left of the Republican Party?”
Heck, EVERYBODY is LEFT of today’s Republican Party, except for Genghis Khan, Herman Goering and possibly Zell Miller.
More precisely, “What REMAINS of the Republican Party?”
Clear Channel. The 700 Club. Fox. The Hoover Institute. American Enterprise Institute. The Federalist Society. Focus on the Family. Liberty Law School. The Board of Directors at GE, Disney, Boeing. Racists. The Drudge Report. National Right to Work. CATO Institute. The Board of Directors at Chase, Citi, MBNA. The World Bank. WTO. The Club for Growth. The Heritage Foundation. The Wall Street Journal. Free Republic. The New York Post. The Board of Directors at Exxon, Shell, BP. The Westboro Baptist Church. National Right to Life Committee. Log Cabin Republicans. Skinheads. The Board of Directors at Halliburton, Blackwater, CACI. The NRA. Americans for Tax Reform. G8. The National Review. Little Green Footballs. The Weekly Standard. The Mormons. The Washington Times. Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. Project For a New American Century. The FCC. Air Force Academy. Regents Law School. World Net Daily. The Top 1%.
There are PLENTY MORE you can list below. Anybody who thinks these CRETINS will cede power and simply FADE AWAY WITHOUT A FIGHT is NOT PAYING ATTENTION.
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RE: Allison at 122
see http://highclearing.com/index……03/28/6148
Incredible article on what needs to happen and why. brilliant analysis in my book. So glad Allison pointed us to it.
correction, allison at 22 not 122. Sorry. See http://highclearing.com/index……03/28/6148
Reg. Wood Hollow at 37.
Watched news Thursday night featuring Specter questioning Sampson regarding whether the decision to drop the US Attorney was done in the light of the slipped in provision of the
revised Patriot’s Act. Can’t remember where I read it, maybe at FDL, but it’s generally understood that the person who slipped that in was Specter’s former aide now at the WH, I think. I think what Specter was trying to get Sampson to say was that the replacements and replacement strategy were related to that
new provision. All I could think of was – what gross hypocrisy, so typical of Specter.
Maybe one of the FDL geniuses can follow this further.
Steve at 124:
Did you ever consider the possibility that the purpose of the surge is to destroy the nations military to make way for a take-over by a privatized Praetorian Guard.
______________
Now that really does scare me!!!
Carolyn Urban at 119;
Alternative vision for changing our way of life rather than tearing down government….
(lost quote)
Starts with me but requires critical mass, like lots else.