To get to the “truth” is probably difficult.

The Iranians are clearly behaving badly by videotaping the Brits and using the images for propaganda.

But let’s stay calm.

For the first time since I started hanging out here, I am really offended by something written here.

Dang, what’s up with you people? I watched the British MOD presser live on the BBC yesterday (I was in Ireland at the time). You may not like the evidence, but at least the Brits (unlike the Iranians) have come forward with some evidence to support their claims. Why are y’all blithely assuming that it’s the Brits who are lying? Oh, that’s right, they’re our allies, and our government is a bunch of miserable, lyin’ sacks of shit, so guilt by association is perfectly OK. Particularly when the “good guys” are a country run by a Holocaust denier and a bunch of mullahs who think it’s perfectly OK to stone to death women who engage in extramarital sex.

Where the hell is your objectivity, people?

I agree with you. This is ridiculous. Even if they WERE barely over the border, the proper response from Iran would be to tell them to go back. Plus the Iranians initially gave coordinates that looked reasonable based on the positions of the British ship and the merchant ship. Then, when the positions turned out to be in Iraqi waters, they changed them. Whether the British evidence is trustworthy or not, the Iranian s evidence alone has me believing the British. The Iranians were looking for a reason to capture British troops. I guess they got tired of waiting.

And you can’t compare sailors patrolling in the ocean to Iranian “diplomats” in Iraq who are being detained by US, not British soldiers. It’s apples and oranges.

I have gone through this site and i found some good information about The British Government has published a map showing the coordinates of the incident, well within an Iran/Iraq maritime border. Our site is also related to this for more information follow this link……united first financial

If the British Ambassador thinks the MOD’s misleading the public, who am I to disagree?

the Nimitz is leaving San Diego and heading for the Gulf – NOW I’m getting worried.

Early on in the trial someone posted a notice that the Nimitz and the Eisenhour were on station and were expecting the Stennis to be joining them. Also at the same time frame it was reported that the Reagan had steamed from a station in Calif. for Persian area, eta Ides de March iirc. Looks like maybe 4 Carrier groups in vecinity as well as Med 5th Fleet with whatever carrier groups. Doubt seriously it’s for fun and games, not at dailey rate to run a carrier group. Sorry the links were not noted but are in fdl comments after Irving’s trial started. Sorry so EPU, hope this is found. All the best…….

http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.co…..g_gul.html

The arab summit was on Cspan after the hearing they yanked it right away. Does anyone know if they are discussing changing over to euros from dollars?

I have seen reports that many of the Gulf states are opting to diversify their foreign exchange reserves to include Euros, Yens and Remnibis/Yuans (Chinese) and that means selling their oil for these currencies. China is already buying Iranian oil (12% of their oil purchase) for Yuans and Euros as are some Asian countries – which ones I’m not sure. Saudi Arabia, in its public pronouncements, is still pledging to sell oil for US$. Their oilfields, however, are already in decline.

This in fact hastens the probability of an attack on Iran since that country led the move to switch oil transactions from US$ only. It also reduces global demand for US$ holdings and the Fed’s ability to keep on printing greenbacks worth very little more than the cost of the paper and ink.