
I guess Joe Lieberman just can't help it. No matter when you ask him, things are looking up in Iraq. In fact, this time, they're "just beginning to look up." After watching Joe vote twice in two days against even a non-binding goal of removing US troops from Iraq a year from now, we now have this latest assurance from the man who claims he wants more than anyone to end the war and get US troops out of Iraq. From Joe's op-ed in Thursday's USA Today:
Since taking command, Gen. Petraeus has been true to his word. The result? Sectarian violence is down in Baghdad. The radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr has fled. The Mahdi Army, which terrorized Baghdad last year, appears to be splintering. And the Iraqi government — its spine stiffened thanks to our renewed support — is taking the critical steps for political reconciliation.Amazingly, however, just at the moment things are at last beginning to look up in Iraq, a narrow majority in Congress has decided that it's time to force our military to retreat. Rather than supporting Gen. Petraeus, they are threatening to strip him of the troops he says he needs and sabotage his strategy.
Later on CNN, Joe assured us that US soldiers are now "more confident" walking around in Baghdad. I thought only John McCain was confused about this. So once again, Michael Ware had to remind us of the realities, explaining that changes in the capital noted by US military were a function of the militia laying low, but it was not safer in other areas and certainly not in the areas outside the capital where violence continued. Is this progress? "It's far too early to tell, Wolf," Ware explained. [UPATE: C&L now has the video up.]
Wolf and Ware then discussed the return of chaos and mass killings in Tal Afar, where successive suicide bombings killed scores of Shia, and Shia gunmen and police retaliated by pulling scores of Sunni men out of their homes and executing them. And today's reports from Baghdad and other cities were just as discouraging.
BAGHDAD - Five suicide bombers struck Shiite marketplaces in northeast Baghdad and a town north of the capital at nightfall Thursday, killing at least 122 people and wounding more than 150 in one of Iraq's deadliest days in years.The savage attacks came as a new American ambassador began his first day on the job, and Senate Democrats ignored a veto threat and approved a bill to require
President Bush to start withdrawing troops.At least 178 people were killed or found dead Thursday, which marked the end of the seventh week of the latest U.S.-Iraqi military drive to curtail violence in Baghdad and surrounding regions.
Meanwhile, John Murtha called the systematic sectarian killing on both sides "genocide." Responding to CNN's Blitzer, who asked whether, as McCain claimed, that leaving next year might encourage genocide, Murtha replied, "It's genocide already." [Transcript here.]
Murtha also told Blitzer that if Bush vetoes a bill that requires US troops meet readiness standards before being deployed to Iraq, then it is Bush who is not supporting the troops.
The next thing I expect Lieberman to say is that no one wants to support our troops and ensure their readiness for combat more than he does -- just before he votes against the bill that does that.
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Crooks & Liars is saying that Ware responded to Lieberman today.
Also, as Olbermann pointed out, every few months since 2004 or so in the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post Lieberman has said “things are improving”.
Same jerk, same LP playing. I’d love to see a talking head call him on it.
I do not want Lieberman caucasing with my Democratic party. I want this individual out of my party. Forthwith.
I really, really want to get rid of Lieberman. I feel strongly about this.
Attaturk @
1
I saw the C&L story after watching CNN, twice; C&L says they’ll get the video up; when they do, I’ll add a link.
EPU’D AND OT-sorry scarecrow, mattered
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dmac says:
March 29th, 2007 at 4:34 pm
neil epu’d
June 5 is the day of the sentencing hearing. Does Libby get to wait until he gets the month count before he calls Fitz?
I think he’ll get 60 months, plus 12 mos. probation and the bar will take his license. Anybody else guessing?
quote from way back Tonster says:
March 28th, 2007 at 1:23 pm
Seriously folks, for your convenience:
Judge Reggie B. Walton
United States District Court for the District of Columbia
E. Barrett Prettyman United States Courthouse
333 Constitution Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20001
dmac now-just thought those of you who would want to write-here’s the address——–to suggest that scooter gets the maximim……acc’dg to those who know-keep it short and sweet-that’s what judge walton likes, and put on the envelope at bottom left that it is about libby, to save the judge’s staff from headaches………
Meanwhile, in a hearing Thursday, John Murtha called the systematic sectarian killing on both sides “genocide.” Responding later to CNN’s Blitzer, who asked whether leaving next year might encourage genocide, Murtha replied, “It’s genocide already.”
I just watched this, a repeat from earlier I think. I believe it went like this…
Meanwhile, in a hearing Thursday, John McCain called the systematic sectarian killing on both sides “genocide.” Responding later to CNN’s Blitzer, who asked whether leaving next year might encourage genocide, Murtha replied, “It’s genocide already.
No?
Loathsome toad.
Just a WAG but it could be that he spends a lot of his time standing on his head.
Maybe Lieberman will be McCain’s running mate and lose him the election like he lost it for Gore!
And it is a bitter pill that this toad is in the Senate rather than Ned Lamont.
I know it’s a delicate balance, but I’m with you, OK kiddo, throw him the hell out of the Dem Caucus. Rip the gavel right out of his hand. Utterly dispicable.
The key sentence in that ed is:
“Amazingly, however, just at the moment things are at last beginning to look up in Iraq, a narrow majority in Congress has decided that it’s time to force our military to retreat.”
He is laying the ground work for blaming the antiwar forces for losing the war. This happened after Vietnam and after WWI in Germany. A right-wing patriot has never lost a war in the history of man, it is always the pacifists fault.
If we do not fight this ’stab in the back’ meme we will pay a terrible price.
OMG - cracking up over Clinton’s blow job now????????
Get back to the story.
Lieberman is a very shady character.
Cozumel @
6
Ah, right. I missed the part where Wolf was relaying McCain. I’ll fix.
o/t
I’m 2 threads behind - did y’all see this ?
San Diego FBI Station Chief - who was quoted as saying he was certain politics was behind the firing of Carol Lam -
is resigning
link
Run Al Run
I haven’t seen punaise all day so I’ll do it for him.
My contempt for Joe Lieberman knows no bounds.
There ya go bud.
I’m so into trying to keep our insight related to regulation media. But,
but Matthews and Maraget Carlson and Buchanan are flopping around…. dead smiles. It’s just not funny.
They’re exhausted too.
Scarecrow @ 14
Ah, right. I missed the part where Wolf was relaying McCain. I’ll fix.
Found it! The exact quote ; )
BLITZER: When I interviewed Senator McCain earlier in the week, he said if your plan is implemented — in other words, U.S. combat forces out in a year — there could be genocide that begins in Iraq.
cnn link
Lieberman must be on drugs… liebercain?
Scarecrow, it’s great to have you posting here regularly. Seriously. Thanks.
Contempt: gathers like bile in the front of your mouth till you want to SPIT
Cozumel — thanks — I’ve linked to the transcipt.
I can see Lieberman strolling down the streets of Baghdad stopping to tell some passerby
That’s the kind of better he’s talking about. Hey, only 178 dead today, only saboteurs of the brave General Petraeus would read anything negative into that.
Did anyone hear Wolfe this afternoon as he was preparing to interview Murtha.. he said something like - Murtha may say something you wont believe. It was as if he was preparing us for a lie from Murtha.
Next time Wolfe, just put a mentos in my soda.
I have three words for my party, the Dems. ‘Stop the funding’.
OT what creeps:
Gore or Clinton in 2008? You choose.
raven—
That was very sweet that you have your lovely dog’s name as your nom de blog, or is it nom de dog. Hope your little one does well with the cancer.
You joking, right?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 26
I like the idea I heard earlier today. Only give 90 days funding at a time. Make the pugs keep coming back to the well, justifying the progress, and voting, over and over and over.
Two or three rounds of that, and Bush wont be able to hold a veto proof majority.
C&L now has the Lieberman/Ware video up from CNN. The link is also in an update to the post.
Leberman is loathsome, degraded, repulsive, nauseating, debased, abominable, putrid, monstrous, depraved, revolting, disgusting, diseased, vicious, sickening; a moral mosnter shambling about on tne national stage
Urban Pirate @ 31
I like the idea I heard earlier today. Only give 90 days funding at a time. Make the pugs keep coming back to the well, justifying the progress, and voting, over and over and over.
Two or three rounds of that, and Bush wont be able to hold a veto proof majority.
That is an excellent idea.
The two jowls up top– gaping maws spewing death.
Great post, Scarecrow.
Troops home now and take Iran off the table, Nancy. NOW.
OT– there is a really good interview today with Amy Goodman and
available here:
link
RIP all of our dear friends.
Murtha and Gates on cspan2 now– DoD overview from today.
Urban Pirate @31 - I really hope the Dems do just that if Jr. vetos this round.
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Citizen Syvanen and the Firepup Patriots:
“If we do not fight this ’stab in the back’ meme, we will pay a terrible price.”
It’s not gunna work this time because there are too many folks who remember VietNam and too many folks are now anti-fascist. After the “Nam”, folks were not used ta sayin’ “we lost” about ANYTHING and fell inta the trap of blamin’ the folks that were right about it instead a accepting their own misjudgements. Even those who were pro-war durin’ VietNam are anti-war now and remember the last one.
In a very real sense, this brush with fascism has already had some positive consequences like the development of alternative communication, national political organization and renewed discussion of our history and political culture. The reality of the failure of corporate fascism is illuminated in the light of a failing economy and falling standard of living just when the “boomers” are gettin’ ready ta retire.
If ya think folks are gettin’ mad now…wait ’til ‘08.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION!!
I believe in our Speaker. The Speaker will do the job.
Eureka Springs
Cable news is an oxymoron. When they do commit news, it is completely unintentional. The most I can do is listen to a few seconds then flip on the mute and make rude comments, sort of like an episode of Mystery Science Theater. Ultimately, it is just a sad, sad parody of the real thing.
raven @ 27
Senator Thompson in the presidential race will be the final straw that breaks the Republican party’s back for at least 12 years. He and his cohorts have said that Gandhi is anti- Semite and advocated the jews to commit suicide en masse. They also called Dr. Martin Luther King a troublemaker.
Guess he ain’t Right Said Fred.
Saddle up Fred, we want to see you guys destroy each other and the Neocons within the year.
Jonathan Turley on KO — NOW
Looking at Olbermann. And I like it.
EPU’d from prev thread
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To: FDL Team, in seriousness
Fr: S.O.S. from MA
Re: Gabbly or an IM site for FDL?
Folks, I wonder whether you’ve thought of maybe putting a link to some sort of FDL-devoted chat site on the FDL mast-head. You have probably noticed some diminution of the heavy loads on FDL’s server on Those Big Busy days, like Emptywheel Vindication Day, Libby Verdict Day, and today — as some of the more addicted of us were chatting away.
Gabbly has the advantage of being totally on some other server — I have no idea where on the ‘Net, but it’s got a high-bandwidth connection to some backbone — so our using it takes load off of FDL’s servers. OTOH it may reduce FDL hits which drive your ad income… but supporting those extra hits may tax your servers… so it’s a circular proposition and balancing act.
If you’re interested I can create and post a cut-out email addy to discuss this further. Or you can just ignore this if you don’t mind our occasional short invitations to the “FDL Gabbly Site”…
Your supporter and very sincere admirer,
/S.O.S. from MA
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curiousgeorge @ 124
At the moment I don’t have enough info to choose… But MyKaroo sounds interesting…
NorskeFlamethrower @
37
Damn son you are a stone motherfucker!
“I did not adequately take account of the perception problem.” Sampson, clip shown on Countdown. What a great line; you could use it for anything.
Hugh @ 39
Heh.
Then. why. can’t. turn. it. off?
Like an accident by the side of the road, I guess.
I can really see Hugh’s shadow on Mystery Science Theater as they comment on the NYT rolling off the presses.;
Olbermann blows me away.
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Citizen oklahoma kiddo and the Firepup Patriots:
Hey brother, ya think Mrs. Clinton could use a few lessons from Madam Speaker?
Ol’ Mother Nancy’s spankin’ of the Chimp reminded me of my wife takin’ down my kids when they fuck up.
KEEP THE FAITH AND DON’T LET YER DAUGHTERS DATE FASCISTS!!!
syvanen @
11
And, as I continue to say, Tweety allowing these fuckers like O’Biern and O’ Neil to keep blabbering about how Kerry and the VVAW betrayed the troops, keeps this ball rolling.
KO —
Monica G. from “self-addressed stamped envelope law school” judging seasoned US Attorneys.
Oklahoma kiddo @
38
Yes. She will.
NorskeFlamethrower @ 49
;0)
Oklahoma kiddo @ 53
Take a deep breath and stop with the threats.
OldCoastie @ 52
;0)
1,469 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen Raven:
Peace brother, I think we’re gunna live ta see the motherfuckers go down this time.
KEEP THE FAITH AND CAREFUL WHERE YA STEP…THE BASTARDS HAVE BEEN ALL OVER THE PLACE!!
Hugh - You are onto something I have been thinking in a different way. I think ANSmith a-la CNN/MSNBC mid day crap is nothing more than the new General Hospital programming. Maybe we could push the big three networks or the big laundry detergent sponsors to bring back soaps and force the so called news networks to do their jobs. Something has got to give.. I don’t know if Murtha heard what I did but he should have let Wolfe have it for such a vile setup.
NorskeFlamethrower @ 56
Lima charlie Norske
KO, We’ll just gloss over the past 48 hourse over there!
Haven’t seen a lot of the put downs on Nancy Pelosi lately, though I don’t watch Fox. Guess that earlier beltway stuff about making mistakes and not being able to lead is no longer operative.
I just walked in from work and have not yet had a chance to catch up on ANYTHING re Sampson’s testimony. I did find a few bits and pieces of news today. Am I wrong in thinking that this was some seriously overdramatized kabuki where Kyle throws Gone-zo completely under the bus and appears to commit a little hari kari on himself (to demonstrate his “sincerity”) while covering Turdblossom’s ass with kevlar?
90 day funding limits would be seen as playing politics with the troops.
I favor pointing out as many times as I can that Republicans 198 in the House and 46 in the Senate have already voted to defund the troops. Bush’s promised veto is just another.
I continue to see little coverage of the fact that the supplemental is a must pass piece of legislation. And the timeframe for its enactment into law is short, 3-6 weeks. Despite all the Bush and Republican posturing, the supplemental accomplishes the 2 things Americans want: a way out of Iraq and funding for the troops. Bush and the Republicans dink around with it at their peril. As Barbara Boxer said, elections have consequences, and, no matter how uncomfortable it is for Bush and the Republicans, they are going to have to wake up and get used to that fact.
It seems that Bush is holding our troops as hostages to his war. The only law Bush can’t break is Murphy’s aw, and it’s coming.
Scarecrow @ 60
She really kicked ass this week didnt she?
OldCoastie - sounds like you didn’t miss much -
go over to Josh if you are so inclined - he’s got transcripts and lots of highlight youtubes
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/
fyi - Cspan is re running the hearings now
egregious @ 51
I don’t know if anyone has been able to verify she has a license to practice law.
Urban Pirate @ 64
She really kicked ass this week didnt she?
I think she’s been doing it right along. The contrast between her real leadership, always done with grace, and some who only aspire to be leaders, is becoming more and more obvious.
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Citizen Oldcoastie and the Firepup Patriots:
The rover is gunna need more’n Kevlar ta save his sorry ass this time. Today was just an appetizer for the Congress…they’re gettin the knives an folks ready for the next course. Roast Rover anyone…dog meat is a delicacy in some parts a the world.
KEEP THE FAITH AND GIMME SOME CARMEL ON MY POPCORN PLEASE!!
Hugh @ 62
Hugh-
Uless I have seriously missed (possible), the funding requests are done months in advance of the actual funding period. I believe the current funding cycle goes through either 10/07 (fiscal 07) or 12/07. I the house stops funding there is time to execute an exit stategy. I like the idea of hauling these astards back every 3 months for a real progress report, not the fucking pablum they release to the press
cb: Thanks for the head’s up on the hearings. Work was so time-consuming today that I never got to watch a thing.
cbl @ 65
maybe I better eat dinner first - it looks like a lotta energy.
;-)
Eureka—
I thot somebody found her law school and/or bar exam in Virginia.
OldCoastie @
61
Honestly, I don’t think they made a dent in Kyle Sampson. Not one. Sigh.
Look at Vietnam. We got out quickly once the decision was made. America did not politically hemorrhage. Same for Iraq. Pull out, now.
Egregious - Was it under a copy machine in a Kinkos? *s*
NorskeFlamethrower @
68
Lil Nuoc Mam and chop sticks, Choi Duck!
Eureka Springs @ 57
During the protest march here in Portland, Or. the nightly local news showed a clip of the signs saying “MSM, not showing the news, lies into war, not doing there job” etc. More of a protest of MSM.. Maybe they’re on to something.
KO is talking about the impact of Beatles albums on Russia.
I’m here to tell you: it was HUGE. People wondered how evil the English-speaking world could be if they had such music. And lots of people wanted to learn English in order to understand the lyrics.
Historians will judge, but anecdotal evidence that I have is that the Beatles helped end the Cold War.
egregious -
we knew about law school in VA., but have yet to see anything showing her passing the bar anywhere
hey Pelosi fans -
these pics were in the morning threads (h/t Terry O)
link
Where I think Speaker Pelosi was super smart was she took nitwit’s own benchmarks, took his funding request and upped it and then made it binding… how could he object?
but, of course, Junya is all of 14 in terms of maturity…
One of the things I like best about Olbermann, aside from his political acuman, is his brand of sophisticated political sarcasm. Wow.
wait a second–
could this (lieberman’s behavior) possibly be about
a mccain & lieberman ticket?
Eureka Springs @ 66
I don’t know if anyone has been able to verify she has a license to practice law.
None that I’ve seen and the TPM folks have looked big time too. Possibly in Virgina where the Virgina Bar doesn’t have a searchable member directory which, btw, is unusual. It’s also where she lives and went to (cough) “law school”
Swopa has a worthwhile post at Needlenose based on a WaPo article that suggests where Lieberman might have gotten his upbeat assessment.
orionATL @ 82
“Unity ‘08″ they’ve been talking about this for a couple years now.
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
We’re getting close to a Constitutional showdown. Wonder who’s going to blink.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 74
Say what, quickly. You know how many Vietnamese got obliterated as we “disengaged”?
January 27, 1973
All warring parties in the Vietnam War sign a cease fire.
Henry Kissenger’s initials on the Cease Fire
March 1973
The last American combat soldiers leave South Vietnam, though military advisors and Marines, who are protecting U.S. installations, remain. For the United States, the war is officially over. Of the more than 3 million Americans who have served in the war, almost 58,000 are dead, and over 1,000 are missing in action. Some 150,000 Americans were seriously wounded.
1974
January 1974
Though they are still too weak to launch a full-scale offensive, the North Vietnamese have rebuilt their divisions in the South, and have captured key areas.
North Vietnamese resupply and fortify their forces
August 9, 1974
President Richard M. Nixon resigns, leaving South Vietnam without its strongest advocate.
December 26, 1974
The 7th North Vietnamese Army division captures Dong Xoai.
1975
January 6, 1975
In a disastrous loss for the South Vietnamese, the NVA take Phuoc Long city and the surrounding province. The attack, a blatant violation of the Paris peace agreement, produces no retaliation from the United States.
The North Vietnamese flag flies over Phouc Long
March 1, 1975
A powerful NVA offensive is unleashed in the Central Highlands of South Vietnam. The resulting South Vietnamese retreat is chaotic and costly, with nearly 60,000 troops dead or missing.
During March
Another NVA offensive sends 100,000 soldiers against the major cities of Quang Tri, Hue and Da Nang. Backed by powerful armored forces and eight full regiments of artillery, they quickly succeed in capturing Quang Tri province.
North Vietnamese armored forces
March 25, 1975
Hue, South Vietnam’s third largest city, falls to the North Vietnamese Army.
Early April 1975
Five weeks into its campaign, the North Vietnamese Army has made stunning gains. Twelve provinces and more than eight million people are under its control. The South Vietnamese Army has lost its best units, over a third of its men, and almost half its weapons.
April 29, 1975
U.S. Marines and Air Force helicopters, flying from carriers off-shore, begin a massive airlift. In 18 hours, over 1,000 American civilians and almost 7,000 South Vietnamese refugees are flown out of Saigon.
A helicopter lifts off from inside the U.S. Embassy grounds
April 30, 1975
At 4:03 a.m., two U.S. Marines are killed in a rocket attack at Saigon’s Tan Son Nhut airport. They are the last Americans to die in the Vietnam War. At dawn, the last Marines of the force guarding the U.S. embassy lift off. Only hours later, looters ransack the embassy, and North Vietnamese tanks role into Saigon, ending the war. In 15 years, nearly a million NVA and Vietcong troops and a quarter of a million South Vietnamese soldiers have died. Hundreds of thousands of civilians had been killed.
Wil,
The supplemental is part of the screwed up way this war is being paid for. Some of it was put in the regular military appropriations bill (which came in before the start of the government’s fiscal year of October 1). So that was months ahead. The supplemental request came in months later. It’s an accounting gimmick to make deficits look smaller and act like long term funding is really only stop gap. It is meant to cover costs for the war in Iraq and Afghanistan only to the beginning of the next fiscal year or for the next 6 months. I have heard reports that defense funding will begin to feel the pinch in about 2 weeks although with reallocations and various other tricks things can be kept going for a while but not indefinitely.
I don’t think the Speaker will blink.
Grandma Millie @ 77
During the protest march here in Portland, Or. the nightly local news showed a clip of the signs saying “MSM, not showing the news, lies into war, not doing there job” etc. More of a protest of MSM.. Maybe they’re on to something.
And to think thirty-five years ago, we got to see the entire hearings of Sam Ervin and the Senate Select Committee on Watergate LIVE on network TV. The only people pissed were the dweebs who didn’t get their soaps…
Oklahoma kiddo @ 86
There is no way on god’s green earth that the dems are going to pull the plug. Take it to the bank. This is typical bullshit.
KO has Andrew Sullivan on about Gonzales and the Texas youth sexual abuse scandal NOW
I really resent the notion that Barney is with this deal.
cbl @ 79
That second pic is priceless. Worth a caption contest.
raven @ 87
Say what, quickly. You know how many Vietnamese got obliterated as we “disengaged”?
January 27, 1973
All warring parties in the Vietnam War sign a cease fire.
Henry Kissenger’s initials on the Cease Fire
March 1973
The last American combat soldiers leave South Vietnam, though military advisors and Marines, who are protecting U.S. installations, remain. For the United States, the war is officially over. Of the more than 3 million Americans who have served in the war, almost 58,000 are dead, and over 1,000 are missing in action. Some 150,000 Americans were seriously wounded.
1974
January 1974
Though they are still too weak to launch a full-scale offensive, the North Vietnamese have rebuilt their divisions in the South, and have captured key areas.
North Vietnamese resupply and fortify their forces
August 9, 1974
President Richard M. Nixon resigns, leaving South Vietnam without its strongest advocate.
December 26, 1974
The 7th North Vietnamese Army division captures Dong Xoai.
1975
January 6, 1975
In a disastrous loss for the South Vietnamese, the NVA take Phuoc Long city and the surrounding province. The attack, a blatant violation of the Paris peace agreement, produces no retaliation from the United States.
The North Vietnamese flag flies over Phouc Long
March 1, 1975
A powerful NVA offensive is unleashed in the Central Highlands of South Vietnam. The resulting South Vietnamese retreat is chaotic and costly, with nearly 60,000 troops dead or missing.
During March
Another NVA offensive sends 100,000 soldiers against the major cities of Quang Tri, Hue and Da Nang. Backed by powerful armored forces and eight full regiments of artillery, they quickly succeed in capturing Quang Tri province.
North Vietnamese armored forces
March 25, 1975
Hue, South Vietnam’s third largest city, falls to the North Vietnamese Army.
Early April 1975
Five weeks into its campaign, the North Vietnamese Army has made stunning gains. Twelve provinces and more than eight million people are under its control. The South Vietnamese Army has lost its best units, over a third of its men, and almost half its weapons.
April 29, 1975
U.S. Marines and Air Force helicopters, flying from carriers off-shore, begin a massive airlift. In 18 hours, over 1,000 American civilians and almost 7,000 South Vietnamese refugees are flown out of Saigon.
A helicopter lifts off from inside the U.S. Embassy grounds
April 30, 1975
At 4:03 a.m., two U.S. Marines are killed in a rocket attack at Saigon’s Tan Son Nhut airport. They are the last Americans to die in the Vietnam War. At dawn, the last Marines of the force guarding the U.S. embassy lift off. Only hours later, looters ransack the embassy, and North Vietnamese tanks role into Saigon, ending the war. In 15 years, nearly a million NVA and Vietcong troops and a quarter of a million South Vietnamese soldiers have died. Hundreds of thousands of civilians had been killed.
I understand what you’re telling me. ;0)
I understand what you’re telling me. ;0)
I also have NO idea what to do!
What an ugly picture. That scares me Scarecrow.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 89
Me neither.
It seems like everyone on KO agrees that they have to fund the deal.
This may have been posted but Lieberman is full of shit.
Shiite Market Bombings Kill at Least 122
By STEVEN R. HURST
The Associated Press
Thursday, March 29, 2007; 6:11 PM
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/.....id=topnews
Thursday was worst day in Iraq in years, at least 178 killed.
Bustednuckles @ 17
Did you say Lieberman’s been bound?
OT and EPU’d but I have to ask:
From Henry’s latest shot across the White House bow
So has anyone issued a subpoena for Ralston’s AOL account?
And Henry should also ask for the any and all non-WH email accounts of all WH staff that MAY have been used in conducting official government business.
The view here is the Bush administration has ignited a civil war in Iraq. And that this conflict will spread regionally. We must do three things. First, begin hearings of impeachment against the President, to show the Middle East good faith. And we must bring our soldiers home from Iraq. And we must get our Navy ships out of the Persian Gulf. God help us.
Holy Joe McCain and heck all the GOP presidential canidates should show their support for bush by walking from one end of Bagdad to the other without bullet proof vests. Just think what a PR oppertunity it would be for the bush! Just think how brave they will appear to the American Public!….assuming that there are any surviors that is.