Redd!

GAIA!

Holy cow, this is the first time I’ve ever gotten in a first comment.

This must be a good omen for the rest of the day.

The sacred goose egg!

Jane

OT Christy, Jane, et al: Have you ever considered adding Amazon Honor System to your ways to contributed to Firedoglake? I just ran across it on a site I visit and I like the simplicity of it.

I wish Joe and Valerie Wilson had a way like that to contribute to them, too.

Elect Gore.

We have also been enchanted with this series, and thankfully, Discovery has a pattern of repeating series that are particularly stunning. This is one to watch again and again.

Re: the Iran car smuggling business. The nub of the matter:

Industry experts say Iran could disrupt its oil exports should tensions surrounding the Tehran’s nuclear programme escalate and the capture of British sailors has upset the market.

In Altemeyer’s (free online!) book, The Authoritarians, he makes the case that there is no way to argue with right wing authoritarians without making them more defensive and paranoid.

But is it hopeless? He says, no, it’s not. His suggestion is to find ways to WORK WITH these folks in your community on issues that matter to them and you — grounds for agreement on other topics may be found. Then their world will be enlarged by human interconnections with their supposed cultural “enemies” who are now allies.

The on-topic part?

It is a good sign which should be seized upon, that otherwise right-wing fundies are discovering that good stewardship of the Earth is a biblical injunction.

Let’s seize upon that agreement and make alliances which will have good benefits for the Earth, while simultaneously opening their eyes to “fellowship” (to use their term) with their non-right-wing, non-authoritarian neighbors.

Go to wilsonsupport.org to contribute to legal fund for Wilsons.

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We are not ruled by politicians. We are controlled by corporations.

anon @ 10

Go to wilsonsupport.org to contribute to legal fund for Wilsons.

linky no workee

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Should we be pushing our congress people for an emergency reconsifderation of the No Autorization on Iran resolution? This is getting very scary.

How could anyone not want to protect this beautiful orb of blue of ours?

Because they’re Republicans… they only see red.

Sorry. Address is:
The Joseph and Valerie Wilson Legal Support Trust
PO Box 40918
Washington, DC 20016-0918

For the link just go to name of Trust and you can contribute on line.

neokneme @ 14

How could anyone not want to protect this beautiful orb of blue of ours?

Because they’re Republicans… they only see red.

I thought they only saw green!

Christy, I watched Planet Earth as well, and I agree with you that it’s a beautifully photographed and produced series. BUT. I watched the first hour, and by that time I was fed up with the “three-minutes-of-show, five-minutes-of-commercials” shtick; what the hell were they thinking — that viewers wouldn’t notice, or will suffer through it in order to watch what is truly an innovative program? It totally ruined it for me, and I won’t be back. I’ll wait for the DVD to come out.

Mrs. K8 @
3

Holy cow, this is the first time I’ve ever gotten in a first comment.

This must be a good omen for the rest of the day.

The sacred goose egg!

Way to go Mrs. K8!

Perhaps a lottery ticket a today?

Bush is gonna fuck around over in the gulf and try and get one of our fly boy’s shot at.
That is exactly what the maniac is after, an excuse.

raven @
12

anon @ 10

Go to wilsonsuppport.org to contribute to legal fund for Wilsons.

linky no workee

Ditto. Comes up as a blank page. But I have been to their site and have contributed. I’d like to contribute small amounts regularly and requested that they make it easier to do that. The form that has to be filled out takes time. It also asks for info I don’t like entering at all, let alone each time. I had emailed them, asking them to add a paypal link, but I think the Amazon Honor System would be even easier.

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Who is the best person qualified, to be elected president in 2008 to combat global warming and protect Mother Earth?

SharonRB @ 16

neokneme @ 14
How could anyone not want to protect this beautiful orb of blue of ours?
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Because they’re Republicans… they only see red.
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I thought they only saw green!

And that makes Greens feel very blue.

Deacon at 17 — Well, we recorded it on our DVR and are skipping the commercials. *g* So I didn’t really notice it as a result. Hate it when they do that, but it is certainly a show that we’ll likely pick up on DVD. Just gorgeous. The Peanut has been mesmerized as well.

Deacon Blues @ 17

Christy, I watched Planet Earth as well, and I agree with you that it’s a beautifully photographed and produced series. BUT. I watched the first hour, and by that time I was fed up with the “three-minutes-of-show, five-minutes-of-commercials” shtick; what the hell were they thinking — that viewers wouldn’t notice, or will suffer through it in order to watch what is truly an innovative program? It totally ruined it for me, and I won’t be back. I’ll wait for the DVD to come out.

Here ya go!

Absolutely mesmerizing images of earth and ‘the fullness thereof…’

images via humanity; reality via existence itself; music via humanity.

to leap politically: all of this sacredness, impersonal as it may be, all of its beauty and glory is unalterably THE OPPOSITE to patriarchal religion, ideology, business which lead to war and environmental destruction.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 21

Who is the best person qualified, to be elected president in 2008 to combat global warming and protect Mother Earth?

Al Gore, Al Gore or Al Gore.

SharonRB @ 26

Oklahoma kiddo @ 21

Who is the best person qualified, to be elected president in 2008 to combat global warming and protect Mother Earth?

Al Gore, Al Gore or Al Gore.

;0)!

Christy Hardin Smith @ 23

Deacon at 17 — Well, we recorded it on our DVR and are skipping the commercials. *g* So I didn’t really notice it as a result. Hate it when they do that, but it is certainly a show that we’ll likely pick up on DVD. Just gorgeous. The Peanut has been mesmerized as well.

I was mesmerized by Jacques Cousteau when I was a kid. I loved when he was on the tee veee.

Ya know,
there was a time when I would have thought that the sabre rattling was just that. And that our leadership, no matter how much out of touch, would never do anything so manifestly STUPID as attack Iran when we are already challenged in Iraq and Afghanistan.
But then, I really didn’t think we would be stupid enough to invade Iraq in the first place.
So, I guess you could say I got real nervous as soon as thos 15 Brits were captures.
Nothing else is particularly surprising.

Millineryman @ 18

Mrs. K8 @
3

Holy cow, this is the first time I’ve ever gotten in a first comment.

This must be a good omen for the rest of the day.

The sacred goose egg!

Way to go Mrs. K8!

Perhaps a lottery ticket a today?

Oooh, what a good idea.

Am reaching for the phone to call Mr. K8 and suggest a stop on the way home for a ticket purchase…

What the hell, why not? Just one ticket. And the “computer pick” — I can’t bear the responsibility for choosing a number which doesn’t show up tonight, but instead pops up the NEXT time.

You guys are killing me with 2 posts per hour. I have enough trouble keeping up with a post every 2 hrs. Good grief!

Millineryman at 28 — Me, too. Cousteau, Wild Kingdom, the Sunday Wonderful World of Disney nature shows…you name it, I loved it. Pretty much any science show on PBS. The Peanut loves all things animals as well — shows, zoos, you name it.

Ann at 31 — Sorry about that — lots to talk about this morning, and I was trying to hit the highlights for you all.

twolf1 @ 24

Deacon Blues @ 17

Christy, I watched Planet Earth as well, and I agree with you that it’s a beautifully photographed and produced series. BUT. I watched the first hour, and by that time I was fed up with the “three-minutes-of-show, five-minutes-of-commercials” shtick; what the hell were they thinking — that viewers wouldn’t notice, or will suffer through it in order to watch what is truly an innovative program? It totally ruined it for me, and I won’t be back. I’ll wait for the DVD to come out.

Here ya go!

Thanks! Though I won’t be able to buy it until April 30, according to the web page.

Millineryman @ 28

Christy Hardin Smith @ 23

Deacon at 17 — Well, we recorded it on our DVR and are skipping the commercials. *g* So I didn’t really notice it as a result. Hate it when they do that, but it is certainly a show that we’ll likely pick up on DVD. Just gorgeous. The Peanut has been mesmerized as well.

I was mesmerized by Jacques Cousteau when I was a kid. I loved when he was on the tee veee.

Cozumel’s rich history doesn’t end there. In 1518, Juan de Grijalv discovered the island en route to Cuba and it became a sanctuary for pirates. In the mid 1800s, mainlanders began to resettle the island, which became popular for its supply of zagote tree. The tree provided chicle for the American chewing gum industry. In 1961, Jacques Cousteau introduced the island to the world.

http://scuba.about.com/od/dest…..ozumel.htm

; )

Harry Reid’s on the senate floor praising Tony Snow for doing an amazing job as WH Press Secretary. OH the hypocracy! Ya know, I wouldn’t wish Tony’s illness on an ugly dog- but having cancer does not automatically turn him into a saint. Tony has been a willing, knowing “tool” for this administration, lying, spinning and deliberately misrepresenting to the American people, who do after all, pay his salary (and provide him with the best healthcare insurance in the counrty- better than most of the rest of America gets). I’m getting rapidly tired of all these crocodile tears. I AM sorry that Mr. Snow has cancer. But that still doesn’t make him into a praiseworthy individual.

http://www.wilsonsupport.org/home

raven @ 12

anon @ 10

Go to http://www.wilsonsuppport.org/ to contribute to legal fund for Wilsons.

[Mod note: too many p’s in support. Thank you My, my]
linky no workee

I just tried this link and it does work—-

http://www.wilsonsupport.org/home

May I politely and very gently suggest that the time is approaching when we might want to consider lining up behind a presidential candidate for ‘08? Much as we did for Lamont and others.

Re: Iran and the UK:

(snip)

In Tehran, Mohammad Ali Hosseini, an Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman, insisted the detained Britons had been treated well: ”They are in completely good health. Rest assured that they have been treated with humanitarian and moral behavior.”

Hosseini said the 26-year-old female sailor, Faye Turney, had complete privacy. ”Definitely, all ethics have been observed,” he said. He would not say where the Britons were being kept.

(snip)

Speculations are that Iran will use the Brits to bargain for the release of Iranians recently arrested in Iraq. The US will not use this incident with the Brits to up the ante with Iran. The US has always hoped Israel will be its proxy with Iran. Iran-Iraq-nukes-Israel-Palestinians-Hezbollah-the US-Pakistan-Al Qaeda–War on Terror-Gitmo-Gonzo-Darth-BushCo in general-sausages and quail wings-Hannah Arendt’s banality of evil: all connected in one beautiful ugly mosaic.

Cousteau’s son has continued in his fathers footsteps and is doing some amazing shows now. I watched one recently on PBS.

Hi Ann in AZ!!!

How are you? I’m feeling a good bit better this week — and Mr. K8 got home last night safely from his bizness trip to L.A.

[I get ridiculously anxious (remnants of PTSD) when he flies somewhere BY HIMSELF. If his plane goes down, I wanna be sitting by his side, holding his hand, so that we crash and burn TOGETHER.]

Good to see you here!

OT– Dana Perino is getting some savvy questons on the email accounts– she is faltering — it’s been a few years, only a few people have multiple accounts…gotta get back to you. We have lots of emails– more than any administration probably. Hatch act, Presidential Records, etc.

oooh- whee.

sez WH counsel is talking to RNC counsel.

The current naval war games off the Iranian coast are dangerous because they increase the possibility for miscalculation.

They can also be used to elicit and analyze the Iranian response to them and use that information on command and control and tactics to base a future attack. This also is a worrisome sign.

Hugh @
43

The current naval war games off the Iranian coast are dangerous because they increase the possibility for miscalculation.

They can also be used to elicit and analyze the Iranian response to them and use that information on command and control and tactics to base a future attack. This also is a worrisome sign.

I think we all know what is on the menu now….

What is the British’s public response to all this right now?…

Hugh @ 43

The current naval war games off the Iranian coast are dangerous because they increase the possibility for miscalculation.

They can also be used to elicit and analyze the Iranian response to them and use that information on command and control and tactics to base a future attack. This also is a worrisome sign.

Let me say. Very good. FWIW. ;0)

the latest Discovery Channel wildlife series called “Planet Earth.”

It’s a BBC production — Discovery put up some of the money to secure the US rights, but had nothing to do with the filming. And they replaced the sublime narration by Sir David Attenborough with Sigourney Weaver’s insipid tones, adding gratuitous references to the gizmos used to film the footage.

If you have a multi-region DVD player, get the British DVDs. If you have a HD set and a player to match, wait for the HD-DVD/Blu-Ray release and buy that, with Attenborough’s narration restored. (The Beeb filmed it on HD before sets or broadcast capabilities were available in the UK, knowing that it would be a perfect demonstration: and you’ll see clips on demo iMacs in the Apple Store.)

If you’ve seen the original, you’ll curse what Discovery has done to it.

the birds and fish and animals and bees and trees and flowers and skies and hills and meadows and children and mothers and soldiers and mullahs and merchants and poets and torturers and secret police and scientists of iran are next.

and they will fight back far better than the whales can fight naval sonar, far better than the bees can fight genetically modified plants, far better than the skies can fight greenhouse gas emissions.

heap of trouble comin’

having said that…it is a beautiful world

Cozumel –

Does this mean you are responsible…for Chiclets???

And hence, Novakula’s teeth?

If anyone pays less attention to public opinion than does our prez, then it’s got to be Blair.

My husband and I have been watching Planet Earth also. As a biologist I couldn’t recommend it more. I’m glad to see the topic of protecting the earth discussed here. The entire planet is threatened by human exploitation, be it global climate change or overpopulation. Here in WV we have mountaintop removal, clear-cut logging and high mercury levels in our streams. Hopefully, the Planet Earth series will open a few more minds to what is it that we stand to lose – and our moral responsibility to protect it.

Mrs. K8 @ 41

Hi Ann in AZ!!!

How are you? I’m feeling a good bit better this week — and Mr. K8 got home last night safely from his bizness trip to L.A.

[I get ridiculously anxious (remnants of PTSD) when he flies somewhere BY HIMSELF. If his plane goes down, I wanna be sitting by his side, holding his hand, so that we crash and burn TOGETHER.]

Good to see you here!

So far, so good! Glad to hear Mr. K8 is back and that you’re feeling better. I sent you an e-mail this morn. Hope you got it. I’ve gotta get off this computer and do some housework now, or I’ll never get anything done! These guys here are just too good! See y’all later.

Mrs. K8 @ 48

Cozumel –

Does this mean you are responsible…for Chiclets???

And hence, Novakula’s teeth?

Well, no. My plan is to retire there though ; )

pseud at 46 — Oooh, it was originally narrated by David Attenborough? I adore his work. Will definitely hold out for a copy with his narration. I didn’t mind Weaver, actually, but you are right that Attenborough is truly sublime.

pseudonymous in nc @ 46

the latest Discovery Channel wildlife series called “Planet Earth.”

It’s a BBC production — Discovery put up some of the money to secure the US rights, but had nothing to do with the filming. And they replaced the sublime narration by Sir David Attenborough with Sigourney Weaver’s insipid tones, adding gratuitous references to the gizmos used to film the footage.

If you have a multi-region DVD player, get the British DVDs. If you have a HD set and a player to match, wait for the HD-DVD/Blu-Ray release and buy that, with Attenborough’s narration restored. (The Beeb filmed it on HD before sets or broadcast capabilities were available in the UK, knowing that it would be a perfect demonstration: and you’ll see clips on demo iMacs in the Apple Store.)

If you’ve seen the original, you’ll curse what Discovery has done to it.

Thank you for that information! I’ll bet most of us would have ever known about the original otherwise.

i have no doubt the iranian captors are wisely keeping the female sailor safe.

but the political prisoners in iran are routinely raped and tortured

same torturers the pro-america shah used were back in business shortly in the same rooms

some prisoners got a double whammy under both systems

note to self:

thank you mr depressing for that!!!

Christy, has your animal-loving Peanut seen the video of Knut, the baby polar bear in Berlin? I keep looking at it, just to smile at that adorable little fuzzball.

Looks like they may not have the votes to stop it after all: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03…..mp;emc=rss

The money quote:

“We need to get the bill on down to the president and get the veto out of the way,” Senator McConnell said.

Two things: First, if Mother Earth implodes or explodes, or, second, if we get into a world war, nothing else will matter.

Cozumel @35_ Thanks, I did not know that about the island. What fascinating place it must be if it was the home of Ixchel, any place that was home to a diety is special. I love mythology, and I haven’t explored Mayan as much as I would like to.

Thanks for the reminder.

Iran, Iraq, in fact, all oil suppliers are stong arguments for the US developing alternative fuels in order to no longer be beholden to those crooks. There may be a chance to do that once we’re no longer governed by those who are owned by the oil suppliers. Sorry Jeb. That means no more Bush family members.

Mrs. K8—refresh your screen and see if that resolves the issue.

PSA – tornado warning – marion/harrison counties in texas until 12:30 local time. moving NE @ 30 mph. currently near Jefferson.

conniptionfit @ 36

Harry Reid’s on the senate floor praising Tony Snow for doing an amazing job as WH Press Secretary. OH the hypocracy! Ya know, I wouldn’t wish Tony’s illness on an ugly dog- but having cancer does not automatically turn him into a saint. Tony has been a willing, knowing “tool” for this administration, lying, spinning and deliberately misrepresenting to the American people, who do after all, pay his salary (and provide him with the best healthcare insurance in the counrty- better than most of the rest of America gets). I’m getting rapidly tired of all these crocodile tears. I AM sorry that Mr. Snow has cancer. But that still doesn’t make him into a praiseworthy individual.

Snows cancer has returned…in his liver no less. The irony.

I have personally lost three friends to the Lie of Iraq…they, of course have lost even more.

I shed no tear nor have any empathy for this man who though highly intelligent and articulate has directly, willfully, wantonly, maliciously and repeatedly contributed to and enabled the invasion and occupation of Iraq

There…I said it.

Deacon Blues @ 17

Christy, I watched Planet Earth as well, and I agree with you that it’s a beautifully photographed and produced series. BUT. I watched the first hour, and by that time I was fed up with the “three-minutes-of-show, five-minutes-of-commercials” shtick; what the hell were they thinking — that viewers wouldn’t notice, or will suffer through it in order to watch what is truly an innovative program? It totally ruined it for me, and I won’t be back. I’ll wait for the DVD to come out.

That’s the reason god invented TiVo — record it and FF through the commercials.

BC

did someone mention David Attenborough ?!?!?

Not as many nature shows when I was a kid. Wild Kingdom was always popular, the Disney stuff. The National Geographic Specials were always eagerly awaited but didn’t seem to happen more than once or twice a year. I use to like to see stuff on the Leakys in Kenya and Tanzania, Jane Goodall and the chimps. That was cutting edge stuff at the time.

The USA is conducting war exercises with its two aircraft carriers stationed in the Persian Gulf near Iran.

Given the fact

- we have no offical diplomatic ties with Iran

- we blame them for arming the insurgency

- we suspect they are devloping a nuclear weapon

- Iran is detaining British military personal who were operating in Iraqi waters

- Bush has already preemtively attacked one of the three countries he declared as the axis of evil, Iraq, justified with specious arguments and with fradulent evidence

- a military action on Iran would send world oil prices through the roof

- Congress debated an explicit prohibition against attacking Iran without prior congressional authorization

Them what the f*ck is he doing running war exercises in the Persian Gulf within spitting distance of Iran?

It is hard to imagine what strategic role this provacative exercise could possibly have. Is this a Commander Codpiece exercise, an international game of who’s d*ck is bigger?
How do you think the US would react if Russia ran war exercises with aircraft carriers and submarines in international waters in the Caribean Ocean 100 miles from Florida?

Oh man, evil Gymboree sent me an e-mail about a sale. Someone save me from online shopping for The Peanut. Some of this stuff is just too cute!

RBG –

Thanks, sweetie! Hugs to you.

An edit would’ve been fine, but I’m sure deleting was easier. And I sent email to my new local friend to explain my tightly wrapped tinfoil. Some things just feel more comfortable than other things…

Christy Hardin Smith @ 69

Oh man, evil Gymboree sent me an e-mail about a sale. Someone save me from online shopping for The Peanut. Some of this stuff is just too cute!

Peanut does not control the credit card, you do Christy. Count to ten and delete the e-mail.

Nedra Pickler is at it again.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.c…..pres_2.php

AZ Matt @ 71

Christy Hardin Smith @ 69

Oh man, evil Gymboree sent me an e-mail about a sale. Someone save me from online shopping for The Peanut. Some of this stuff is just too cute!

Peanut does not control the credit card, you do Christy. Count to ten and delete the e-mail.

AZ, you say that like you’ve had practice (saying that.) He he.

Bustednuckles @
19

Bush is gonna fuck around over in the gulf and try and get one of our fly boy’s shot at.
That is exactly what the maniac is after, an excuse.

Much more likely he’ll claim w/o corroberation (of course) a missile was launched at one of our “brave” airmen who evaded and returned safely, thank god. If the lips move (and they are attached to a republican) – it’s a lie.

Mrs. K8 @
70

RBG –

Thanks, sweetie! Hugs to you.

An edit would’ve been fine, but I’m sure deleting was easier. And I sent email to my new local friend to explain my tightly wrapped tinfoil. Some things just feel more comfortable than other things…

Refresh again. I think you’ll approve.

Neil @ 73

AZ Matt @ 71
Christy Hardin Smith @ 69
Oh man, evil Gymboree sent me an e-mail about a sale. Someone save me from online shopping for The Peanut. Some of this stuff is just too cute!
—-

Peanut does not control the credit card, you do Christy. Count to ten and delete the e-mail.
—-

AZ, you say that like you’ve had practice (saying that.) He he.

Usually to myself on some eBay item.

AZ, What’s the coolest thing you bought on Ebay?

In the last few days, Bloomberg has been running stories that oil prices are up due to tensions with Iran over the 15 Royal Marines taken into custody. Now it is true that the markets have been skittish, but now with naval exercises going on Bloomberg has the story that oil prices are declining on speculation that the crisis with Iran will be resolved.

This just goes to show the inanity of a lot of the speculation and those who write about it. The capture of 15 marines by the Iranians is irritating but is precisely the kind of event that can be dealt with diplomatically. The Iranians hold them for a while, milk them for their propaganda value, maybe trade them for Iranians held in Iraq, and then release them. It is a pretty standard practice. As I said, it is irritating but hardly alarming.

Now the addition of what are apparently ad hoc war games off the Iranian coast is a stupid and unnecessary bit of posturing by Bush and company. It is also dangerous.

Getting back to oil markets, this is the stupid side of all of this rationalization of speculative pressures. When there is no real danger, oil prices rise. Yet when a truly dangerous situation arises prices are predicted to decline. This is just nuts. Maybe we should chip in and buy Bloomberg and the markets a newspaper. It might help.

OT…does Wayne Madsen Report have any credibility?

*xyz @ 71

Nedra Pickler is at it again.

link

Sent to: npickler@ap.org
CC: info@ap.org

Subject: Nice op-ed…

Ms. Pickler,

Your Obama AP article of today begins with the vague and ominous: “the voices are growing louder and asking the question”. Then you proceed to generalize expansively and without support: “no policy speeches”, “[other candidates] don’t have such a barrier to prove they are qualified to be president”.

Could you explain to me how a candidate who has “offered a plan to get troops out of Iraq” and “laid out broad [healthcare] goals” deserves the scurrilous insinuations implicit in the way you wrote and headlined this piece?

I understand that the Democratic primary is getting off to an early start, but given your history of hit pieces that contain virtually no substance from the 2004 Democratic primary, don’t you think you should be covering some other beat? You are not the only offender in peddling this brand of “some say” pseudo-journalism, but you are certainly contributing to the problem.

Please reflect on your agenda, your writing, and your perception. I’m not sure you’ll like what you find.

[my name]

ps It also appears unprofessional to have an incorrect URL at the bottom of your article…

Tin foil hat time…
What if the supposed captured UK soldiers are a wag the dog scenario, and that bush, blaire are looking for a “reason” to start the next not so excellent adventure in the middle east. Bush did after all send the air craft carriers to the Persian Gulf months ago in preparation for something.

Gee. Do I think the American people are on to something?

There is skepticism about the motives of both the administration and congressional Democrats:

•By 53%-26%, respondents say the U.S. attorneys were dismissed primarily for political reasons, not because they weren’t doing their jobs well — as Attorney General Alberto Gonzales has said.

•By 59%-30%, they say Democrats are investigating the dismissals mostly for political advantage, not because of ethical concerns.

EW’s analysis of Goodling’s strategy in taking the 5th. LINK

tbsa @ 81

Tin foil hat time…
What if the supposed captured UK soldiers are a wag the dog scenario, and that bush, blaire are looking for a “reason” to start the next not so excellent adventure in the middle east. Bush did after all send the air craft carriers to the Persian Gulf months ago in preparation for something.

That’s right.

Ecofragility, auguries of WWIII, and Gymboree. Love dat internet!

AZ Matt @
71

Christy Hardin Smith @ 69

Oh man, evil Gymboree sent me an e-mail about a sale. Someone save me from online shopping for The Peanut. Some of this stuff is just too cute!

Peanut does not control the credit card, you do Christy. Count to ten and delete the e-mail.

If you mark the e-mail as spam, you’ll be saved not just today, but tomorrow as well.

Mrs. K8 @
9

snip

… find ways to WORK WITH these folks in your community on issues that matter to them and you — grounds for agreement on other topics may be found. Then their world will be enlarged by human interconnections with their supposed cultural “enemies” who are now allies.

snip

Let’s seize upon that agreement and make alliances which will have good benefits for the Earth, while simultaneously opening their eyes to “fellowship” (to use their term) with their non-right-wing, non-authoritarian neighbors.

Mrs K8, great point. I found this to be true after the bitter loss of 2004. I worked on a campaign to pass a piece of legislation that brought many Democrats and Republicans together. It was inspiring to see what positive action we can take when we find common ground. We also find the humanity in each other. Granted these people were working for gay rights, so they were moderate Republicans. But it was the shot of energy that I needed to continue to reach out to the other side.

Neil @ 68

The USA is conducting war exercises with its two aircraft carriers stationed in the Persian Gulf near Iran.

Given the fact

- we have no offical diplomatic ties with Iran

- we blame them for arming the insurgency

- we suspect they are devloping a nuclear weapon

- Iran is detaining British military personal who were operating in Iraqi waters

- Bush has already preemtively attacked one of the three countries he declared as the axis of evil, Iraq, justified with specious arguments and with fradulent evidence

- a military action on Iran would send world oil prices through the roof

- Congress debated an explicit prohibition against attacking Iran without prior congressional authorization

Them what the f*ck is he doing running war exercises in the Persian Gulf within spitting distance of Iran?

It is hard to imagine what strategic role this provacative exercise could possibly have. Is this a Commander Codpiece exercise, an international game of who’s d*ck is bigger?
How do you think the US would react if Russia ran war exercises with aircraft carriers and submarines in international waters in the Caribean Ocean 100 miles from Florida?

The “strategy” is to take the heat off Karl Rove and Gonzo. Plus he gets to provoke a shooting war with Iran, which he wanted to do anyway-and now the MFers in the congress will HAVE to fund his stinkin’ war!

RBG –

I do indeed approve. A big smooch comin’ your way! Youse guys are a wonder.

Re: Dana Perino:

She talks really fast. Words spew out of her mouth. You think she’s really articulate. Then you realize she’s saying absolutely nothing at all.

Neil @ 77

AZ, What’s the coolest thing you bought on Ebay?

Dang, that will take some thought….

I mainly collect railroad memorabilia from my great grandfather’s railroad, the San Pedro, Los Angeles and Salt Lake Railroad. But also of Nevada RR’s and of that I have 3 annual passes to ride the Eureka & Palisades Railroad. There only maybe 2 dozen known to collectors.

tbsa @ 81

Tin foil hat time…
What if the supposed captured UK soldiers are a wag the dog scenario, and that bush, blaire are looking for a “reason” to start the next not so excellent adventure in the middle east. Bush did after all send the air craft carriers to the Persian Gulf months ago in preparation for something.

That makes as much sense as anything I’ve heard.

These idiots are nuts. And stupid.

Uh, dude, if you’re not going to use that Gymboree email, could you hook me up rather than just throwing it away?

Hmmm. I have two refresh comments buttons. Do I press the one on the left, or the one on the right? The one on the LEFT of course! Is FDL running psychological experiments?

Neil @ 83

EW’s analysis of Goodling’s strategy in taking the 5th. LINK

Wow. That’s an interesting theory.

Make’s sense.

I have been waiting for a John Dean-type to come forth.

Maybe it’s Monica.

Froomkin is up on the topic of Goodling:

Link

Do you believe this?

•By 59%-30%, they say Democrats are investigating the dismissals mostly for political advantage, not because of ethical concerns.

I don’t. If it’s true that RNC party leaders have been strategically manipulating US Attorneys to help Republic candidates win election and Democratic ones lose, its an act of subverting jstice adn democaracy. It’s certainly impeachable and perhaps treasonous.

Christy! The peanut is SO CUTE THAT SHE DOES NOT NEED MORE CUTE CLOTHES! Take that money that you would have spent at gymboree and put it in her college fund!
-signed, A mother with college age children who succumbed to cute clothes too often and now regrets it

tbsa @
81

Tin foil hat time…
What if the supposed captured UK soldiers are a wag the dog scenario, and that bush, blaire are looking for a “reason” to start the next not so excellent adventure in the middle east. Bush did after all send the air craft carriers to the Persian Gulf months ago in preparation for something.

Save the Alcoa Wrap for other, more choice spells of paranoia. This time your concern is warranted.

Did you notice one glaring thing (the dog that DIDN’T bark)? When this story first hit the wires, the Iranians were instantly claiming that the boat was in their territorial waters. What you DIDN’T hear from the Brits, in the initial several rounds of newspaper stories, was a claim that the ship was in IRAQI territorial waters.

Isn’t that interesting?

What I’d love to know is if there isn’t some source for GPS information on that ship’s position, one that wouldn’t be tamper-able by the US and UK.

Don’t all ships nowadays have global positioning devices?

Primordial at 93 — Okay, here you go, but be warned — some VERY cute stuff here.

(Dang — the original link wasn’t working properly, so I’ve shortened this to the main page — you can get through to the sale by clicking on any of the kids clothing categories and then clicking through on their sale link inside.)

Pat_AlexVA @
94

Hmmm. I have two refresh comments buttons. Do I press the one on the left, or the one on the right? The one on the LEFT of course! Is FDL running psychological experiments?

Ok, reloaded the page and one of the buttons disappeared. That was fun. I had immunity from the wait for a few minutes there.

EPU’d from last thread, and important (I think):

Tom @ 82

Here’s the smoking gun on the RNC email angle:

WaPo link

[quote]Susan B. Ralston, while she was executive assistant to Rove, similarly used “georgewbush.com” and “rnchq.org” e-mail accounts to confer in 2001 and 2003 with Abramoff, her former boss, about matters of interest to Abramoff’s clients.

In a related e-mail, an Abramoff aide said Ralston had warned that “it is better to not put this stuff in writing in [the White House] . . . email system because it might actually limit what they can do to help us, especially since there could be lawsuits, etc.”

Abramoff’s response, according to a copy of his e-mail, was: “Dammit. It was sent to Susan on her rnc pager and was not supposed to go into the WH system.”

[/quote]

ooops!

This just in from the New York Times: Rice’s Trip Ends With Limited Success by HELENE COOPER (my bold)

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03…..ref=slogin

Suggestion for the Times: You might think about hiring a few reporters. It probably would work wonders for your news gathering.

Using the same logic as in the Times headline, I guess you could say that North Carolina also met with only limited success when it lost to Georgetown 84-96.

Gymboree … very sweet stuff and irresistable, especially on a peanut.

I’m lucky my kids choose their own wear now, jeans, tshirts, and sneakers. And they’re not fussy about brands. It’s much cheaper than when I was doing the choosing.

I couldn’t get my 11 year olds to where a dress now if my life depended on it …

Badwater @
79

OT…does Wayne Madsen Report have any credibility?

Short answer?

No.

Longer answer: Every once in a blue moon he may really be onto something which is later proven true. Sometimes what he says can never be verified one way or the other. But yet on other occasions he seems to just make stuff up. Discerning which is which is too fraught with difficulty. This makes him essentially useless as a source.

Phoenix Woman @ 102

EPU’d from last thread, and important (I think):

Tom @ 82
Here’s the smoking gun on the RNC email angle:

WaPo link

[quote]Susan B. Ralston, while she was executive assistant to Rove, similarly used “georgewbush.com” and “rnchq.org” e-mail accounts to confer in 2001 and 2003 with Abramoff, her former boss, about matters of interest to Abramoff’s clients.

In a related e-mail, an Abramoff aide said Ralston had warned that “it is better to not put this stuff in writing in [the White House] . . . email system because it might actually limit what they can do to help us, especially since there could be lawsuits, etc.”

Abramoff’s response, according to a copy of his e-mail, was: “Dammit. It was sent to Susan on her rnc pager and was not supposed to go into the WH system.”

[/quote]

ooops!

Is someone going to subpeona these emails?

Speaking for myself only, I think most in my party, the Demos, are investigating ‘things’ for political advantage. But perhaps all IS fair in love and war. And maybe politics too.

AZ Matt @
96

Froomkin is up on the topic of Goodling:

Link

Here’s Monica’s alma mater,

The nation’s academic center for Christian thought and action

It’s more than a description of Regent University, it’s a way of life. As America’s premier graduate school dedicated to combining quality education with biblical teachings, Regent continues to produce Christian leaders who will make a difference, who will change the world.

Regents Picnic

Oh goody she’s a Christian

I just called all the members of Congress from my state. I asked them to impeach this resident alien because we cannot have another who thinks he can do whatever he so chooses without consequence. My very first concern is ending this war immediately not in March of 2008, that is patently ludicrous, nothing will change to make it better in the future, Impeachment, the war, and all the other horrors committed by this administration are all one thing to me, and when I see that short video of our beautiful planet I cannot help but think that this administration is the evil side of what is possible, and that they are very capable of destroying everything that video represents and I get physically ill, filled with rage and frustration at the supreme hubris and lack of any quality of care or character that would enhance our country, and the world as a whole. This president must be impeached along with his pathetic minions.

Mrs. K8 @ 105

Badwater @
79

OT…does Wayne Madsen Report have any credibility?

Short answer?

No.

Longer answer: Every once in a blue moon he may really be onto something which is later proven true. Sometimes what he says can never be verified one way or the other. But yet on other occasions he seems to just make stuff up. Discerning which is which is too fraught with difficulty. This makes him essentially useless as a source.

Just like Politco then….

AZ Matt @ 91

Neil @ 77

AZ, What’s the coolest thing you bought on Ebay?

Dang, that will take some thought….

I mainly collect railroad memorabilia from my great grandfather’s railroad, the San Pedro, Los Angeles and Salt Lake Railroad. But also of Nevada RR’s and of that I have 3 annual passes to ride the Eureka & Palisades Railroad. There only maybe 2 dozen known to collectors.

My fathers ancestors arrived in this country in Baltimore. Three generations worked on the B&O railroad, the earliest was in maintenance, the most recent, my grandfather was an engineer. They gave me a conductor’s suit when I was 5, navy blue and white pinstripes with six patches, emblems of active railroads in the early sixties and a cap that had the B&O emblem on the brow.

My brother collects rock albums. For most of them he pays a buck. Sometimes though, the one he wants is rare and he’ll bust the bank. My collecting days are over for now. I own about 100 books on or realted to the boston celtics.

I don’t have a problem with Christians. As long as they practice what they preach. As in the Golden Rule, etc. ;0)

Bustednuckles @ 19

Just to inform, I have been living abroad for nearly fifteen years and watched the disinformation and guile of this administration suck the country into Iraq. I am a concern troll I suppose over Iran. My information came primarily from Irish sources, Irish Times, etc. and from “alternate” British sources, whose record isn’t as likely to be altered for political expediency as archives there in the states are. Now the administration is being exposed to the light of day and their nefarious agenda exposed, it becomes all the more likely their plan to control most of the world’s 710 and 645 outside Russia will be consumated by the attack on Iran (for non-existant excuse) and capture of Iran’s petrolium resources. A “bright and shinny thing” to divert attention away from their utter bankruptcy and illegitimatcy. I cannot add much to the discussion other than that. All the best……

raven @ 108

Regents Picnic

Oh goody she’s a Christian

What would Jesus do?

Christy Hardin Smith @ 69

Oh man, evil Gymboree sent me an e-mail about a sale. Someone save me from online shopping for The Peanut. Some of this stuff is just too cute!

Do you go to Gymboree classes? I did for years. The songs are still going through my head.

Oh goody she’s a Christian

What would Jesus do?

Testify

Hugh @ 114

raven @ 108

Regents Picnic

Oh goody she’s a Christian

What would Jesus do?

Based on my religious education, I don’t think Jesus would invoke the 5th.

“Don’t all ships nowadays have global positioning devices?”

Well, cars have ‘em. You’d think naval vessels would, too.

D’uh!

Good grief.

We subscribe to an “emergency email” system: from emergencyemail.org.

This comes in very handy for us, as most of the announcements concern weather warnings — and that’s important during the summer Arizona “monsoon” season, or for frost warnings in winter, etc.

Today we got a warning from Homeland Security, with nothing but a link. Following the link took you to a page with an announcement that there are over 600,000 “fugitive aliens” in the U.S.

OK, well that’s nice. What am I supposed to do about it? Worry harder? At least with a frost warning I know to put a blanket on the exposed water pipes.

What would Jesus do?

remember the 9th commandment :)

Neil @ 111

AZ Matt @ 91

Neil @ 77

AZ, What’s the coolest thing you bought on Ebay?

Dang, that will take some thought….

I mainly collect railroad memorabilia from my great grandfather’s railroad, the San Pedro, Los Angeles and Salt Lake Railroad. But also of Nevada RR’s and of that I have 3 annual passes to ride the Eureka & Palisades Railroad. There only maybe 2 dozen known to collectors.

My fathers ancestors arrived in this country in Baltimore. Three generations worked on the B&O railroad, the earliest was in maintenance, the most recent, my grandfather was an engineer. They gave me a conductor’s suit when I was 5, navy blue and white pinstripes with six patches, emblems of active railroads in the early sixties and a cap that had the B&O emblem on the brow.

My brother collects rock albums. For most of them he pays a buck. Sometimes though, the one he wants is rare and he’ll bust the bank. My collecting days are over for now. I own about 100 books on or realted to the boston celtics.

I have a bunch of books on western railroads. In Winslow, Arizona, about 85 miles from where I live is a Harvey House hotel, La Posada, the old Santa FE mainline. Great place to stay and really wonderful food, beatiful garden spaces also.

tbsa @
81

Tin foil hat time…
What if the supposed captured UK soldiers are a wag the dog scenario, and that bush, blaire are looking for a “reason” to start the next not so excellent adventure in the middle east. Bush did after all send the air craft carriers to the Persian Gulf months ago in preparation for something.

Reynold’s-Heavyweight-double-wrap-grill-lining-style here…
What if the UK pull out was an “advance” of sorts?
/aloominium

I keep looking at this from the previous thread (originally from TPM):

Under the federal False Statements statute, 18 USC 1001, it is a felony to cause another person to make a false statement to Congress. Since McNulty has allegedly told Senator Schumer that he made a false statement to Congress based on information provided to him by Monica Goodling, Goodling could very well be prosecuted for a Section 1001 violation.

And it occurs to me that Goodling is very likely toast even if she pleads the Fifth. She doesn’t have to open her mouth or take the stand to be nailed for a Section 1001 violation, not if McNulty has proof positive that she fed him bogus information.

AZ Matt @ 121

I once took the starlight express from San Diego to San Fransisco. Some of the trip was stunning and beautiful, other parts were nothing more that industrial blight with a few high security prison dotted into the landscape. Train travel can be a great adventure. Maybe its time to plan another.

inmymind’seye @ 87

Mrs. K8 @
9

snip

… find ways to WORK WITH these folks in your community on issues that matter to them and you — grounds for agreement on other topics may be found. Then their world will be enlarged by human interconnections with their supposed cultural “enemies” who are now allies.

snip

Let’s seize upon that agreement and make alliances which will have good benefits for the Earth, while simultaneously opening their eyes to “fellowship” (to use their term) with their non-right-wing, non-authoritarian neighbors.

Mrs K8, great point. I found this to be true after the bitter loss of 2004. I worked on a campaign to pass a piece of legislation that brought many Democrats and Republicans together. It was inspiring to see what positive action we can take when we find common ground. We also find the humanity in each other. Granted these people were working for gay rights, so they were moderate Republicans. But it was the shot of energy that I needed to continue to reach out to the other side.

Good for you!

In the years to come we will need to have two types of community support — the support, like we get here at FDL, of the like-minded progressive community with long-term goals of taking back our democracy.

And then the type of community where we reach out, like you did, to reinforce our sense of togetherness as Americans first, thereby exposing those on the “other side” to a sense of REAL civic responsibility and common humanity.

Mrs. K8 @ 119

Good grief.

We subscribe to an “emergency email” system: from emergencyemail.org.

This comes in very handy for us, as most of the announcements concern weather warnings — and that’s important during the summer Arizona “monsoon” season, or for frost warnings in winter, etc.

Today we got a warning from Homeland Security, with nothing but a link. Following the link took you to a page with an announcement that there are over 600,000 “fugitive aliens” in the U.S.

OK, well that’s nice. What am I supposed to do about it? Worry harder? At least with a frost warning I know to put a blanket on the exposed water pipes.

Roswell?

Phoenix Woman @ 123

I keep looking at this from the previous thread (originally from TPM):

Under the federal False Statements statute, 18 USC 1001, it is a felony to cause another person to make a false statement to Congress. Since McNulty has allegedly told Senator Schumer that he made a false statement to Congress based on information provided to him by Monica Goodling, Goodling could very well be prosecuted for a Section 1001 violation.

And it occurs to me that Goodling is very likely toast even if she pleads the Fifth. She doesn’t have to open her mouth or take the stand to be nailed for a Section 1001 violation, not if McNulty has proof positive that she fed him bogus information.

There were lots of people at that key meeting, so it wouldn’t be just her (lack of) word against his…

Pat_AlexVA @ 126

Mrs. K8 @ 119

Good grief.

We subscribe to an “emergency email” system: from emergencyemail.org.

This comes in very handy for us, as most of the announcements concern weather warnings — and that’s important during the summer Arizona “monsoon” season, or for frost warnings in winter, etc.

Today we got a warning from Homeland Security, with nothing but a link. Following the link took you to a page with an announcement that there are over 600,000 “fugitive aliens” in the U.S.

OK, well that’s nice. What am I supposed to do about it? Worry harder? At least with a frost warning I know to put a blanket on the exposed water pipes.

Roswell?

Run! Run for your life!

Meanwhile, the Chinese don’t need help from us:

SANTA ANA, Calif. (AP) — Jury selection began Tuesday in the federal trial of a former top engineer at a major U.S. defense contractor accused of stealing military secrets for the Chinese.

Federal prosecutors have portrayed defendant Chi Mak as a foreign agent who used his position to steal some of the most advanced and closely guarded naval technology in the world, including silent-running propulsion systems that can make submarines virtually undetectable.

Defense attorneys argue that the 66-year-old is a devoted American who would never harm his adopted country.

(snip)

We owe them about $1 trillion but heck.

Phoenix Woman @ 123

I keep looking at this from the previous thread (originally from TPM):

Under the federal False Statements statute, 18 USC 1001, it is a felony to cause another person to make a false statement to Congress. Since McNulty has allegedly told Senator Schumer that he made a false statement to Congress based on information provided to him by Monica Goodling, Goodling could very well be prosecuted for a Section 1001 violation.

And it occurs to me that Goodling is very likely toast even if she pleads the Fifth. She doesn’t have to open her mouth or take the stand to be nailed for a Section 1001 violation, not if McNulty has proof positive that she fed him bogus information.

So now the question becomes, who fed Monica the bogus information?

Three guesses, and the first two don’t count.

Hugh @ 114

raven @ 108

Regents Picnic
————

Oh goody she’s a Christian
————

What would Jesus do?

Speak the truth with love.

Mrs. K8 @ 119

Good grief.

We subscribe to an “emergency email” system: from emergencyemail.org.

This comes in very handy for us, as most of the announcements concern weather warnings — and that’s important during the summer Arizona “monsoon” season, or for frost warnings in winter, etc.

Today we got a warning from Homeland Security, with nothing but a link. Following the link took you to a page with an announcement that there are over 600,000 “fugitive aliens” in the U.S.

OK, well that’s nice. What am I supposed to do about it? Worry harder? At least with a frost warning I know to put a blanket on the exposed water pipes.

seque: ever see ‘Inspector Frost’ on BBC?

Ben Sargent cartoon is spot on: Sargent toon

Pat_AlexVA @ 126

Mrs. K8 @ 119

Good grief.

We subscribe to an “emergency email” system: from emergencyemail.org.

This comes in very handy for us, as most of the announcements concern weather warnings — and that’s important during the summer Arizona “monsoon” season, or for frost warnings in winter, etc.

Today we got a warning from Homeland Security, with nothing but a link. Following the link took you to a page with an announcement that there are over 600,000 “fugitive aliens” in the U.S.

OK, well that’s nice. What am I supposed to do about it? Worry harder? At least with a frost warning I know to put a blanket on the exposed water pipes.

Roswell?

Bwahahahaha!

That’s right, even Fife Symington came out last week and stated he had a close encounter (at the same time he was ridiculing citizens who wanted to know what was up with the “Phoenix Lights” by having a press conference with his staff member dressed as ET).

I should’ve realized.

Oh well, as my grandmother used to say, “Keep looking up!”

Arnie at 10:53,
Thanks for that.

triple layer of tin foil hat time: what if tony snow’s medical condition was discovered in order to remove him from public observation? his statements about subpoenaes and hiding from subpoenas were likely quite ‘discomforting.’

Speak the truth with love.

Hi EG

Father in law is out of the hospital and in a rehab facility. The going is slow, as expected, but he’s still hanging. How R U?

statements he made about the clinton white house no longer apparently being ‘operative.’

OT
From my friend Sharon:

This Breast Cancer Patient Protection Act which will require insurance companies to cover a minimum 48-hour hospital stay for patients undergoing a mastectomy is SO obvious – I can’t believe it isn’t in effect right now. Looks like a quick point and click to get your message to Congress. Let’s all band together and get some care for WOMEN!

PLEASE!! Sign the petition by clicking here.

Mrs K8 @ 98

What I’d love to know is if there isn’t some source for GPS information on that ship’s position, one that wouldn’t be tamper-able by the US and UK.

Don’t all ships nowadays have global positioning devices?

In Europe ALL ships must have GPS and a transponder that identifies the vessel. ALL MILITARY VESSELS are equiped with even more accurate versions of GPS and transopnding electronics. Any claim of accidental tresspass is pure c*ap or the skipper/navigator completely incompetent. The last is not likely. Thanks for the question. All the best……

Arnie @ 140

Mrs K8 @ 98

What I’d love to know is if there isn’t some source for GPS information on that ship’s position, one that wouldn’t be tamper-able by the US and UK.

Don’t all ships nowadays have global positioning devices?

In Europe ALL ships must have GPS and a transponder that identifies the vessel. ALL MILITARY VESSELS are equiped with even more accurate versions of GPS and transopnding electronics. Any claim of accidental tresspass is pure c*ap or the skipper/navigator completely incompetent. The last is not likely. Thanks for the question. All the best……

Thanks for your response. I assume this means the GPS info would have been recorded in some fashion.

Hence, the fact they haven’t brought forth any proof of trespass is enough to call hooey on the British claims. That’s what I suspected from the get-go, anyway. Once it was clear nobody was yelling, “Hey, they were in IRAQI waters!” spoke volumes to me, as I mentioned above in another comment. It was the dog that DIDN’T bark.

Hence, the fact they haven’t brought forth any proof of trespass is enough to call hooey on the British claims. That’s what I suspected from the get-go, anyway. Once it was clear nobody was yelling, “Hey, they were in IRAQI waters!” spoke volumes to me, as I mentioned above in another comment. It was the dog that DIDN’T bark.

I thought the deal was that these are contested waters, the same place that sparked the Iran-Iraq war?

It seems unlikely that military ships, especially ones in a hostile area, would have GPS systems that would allow anyone to track their locations.

raven at 137 Hi EG

Father in law is out of the hospital and in a rehab facility. The going is slow, as expected, but he’s still hanging. How R U?

raven—

That’s terrific news! I know you were really concerned for a while about his progress in the hospital. Must be a giant sigh of relief for all concerned. Rehab can take awhile at his age but there’s every reason to feel good about his situation.

How am I. Well speaking of heart surgery I’m starting to pack for trip #30. Gonna do some things differently this time and see if that doesn’t help both the program and me. Need to keep re-creating what you are doing.

Keep us posted about your father-in-law.

Mary @ 145:

sorry for scaring you Mary. just exorcising my own ‘demons of fear’…………

[Mod note: there will be no joke posts permitted saying Iran is attacking American interests. This is not funny.]

All the talk about tracking ships with GPS.

It reminds me of a joke about someone in home detention with the lojack, and the person puts the lojack onto their kitty cat, while they run around town violating their home detention.

Okie Doughkie Mabel’s.

Badwater @ 143

It seems unlikely that military ships, especially ones in a hostile area, would have GPS systems that would allow anyone to track their locations.

No, my point is that the ships themselves must have some sort of record of where they are/were physically located, for the military’s own purposes. Not that anyone else would be free to plug into or hack into it somehow.

Point being, if they have PROOF of Iranian trespass, they could show that proof, after the fact.

I’d like a complete list of what politicians or lobbyists Abramoff gave or recieved money or favors from.

AZ Matt @
133

Ben Sargent cartoon is spot on: Sargent toon

Thanks!

Saw your mention of Winslow…I (like many of my age group compadres) stood on a corner in Winslow, AZ once. Not a diddly damn thing happened. Of course, it was before the Eagles had become THE EAGLES…

Thanks Christy…

{throws credit card behind washing machine}

raven –

I missed the original story of your father-in-law, but am sending along prayers and good wishes now, both for him and for you and your whole family.

Yes it’s wonderful. Pulled the whole works off the torrent sites a couple of months ago. Damn I guess you are way behind in ermerica. Got the stunning Galapagos trio yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47EBLD-ISyc

Mrs. K8 @ 153

raven –

I missed the original story of your father-in-law, but am sending along prayers and good wishes now, both for him and for you and your whole family.

Thanks, it’s been about 6 weeks since the original situation. 84, double valve replacement. We thought at first there was no chance so we’re encouraged so far. Many FDLers have been a great support.

inmymind’seye @ 104

Gymboree … very sweet stuff and irresistable, especially on a peanut.

I’m lucky my kids choose their own wear now, jeans, tshirts, and sneakers. And they’re not fussy about brands. It’s much cheaper than when I was doing the choosing.

I couldn’t get my 11 year olds to where a dress now if my life depended on it …

That’ll change… around age 15. (my daughter refused to wear a dress/skirt from ages 5-15; right around sophmore year of high school, our wardrobe shopping trips began to change. At first I was charmed, after a 10-year drought. Now all I can think is, “geez, you’re expensive!”)

Actually, you tell where a ship has been via a LANDSAT
photo. You don’t even have to consider GPS positioning. Don’t you know the gov has that image tucked away somewhere.

Mrs. K8 @ 150

Sometimes proof would show military capabilities better kept secret. Sometimes proof is just fake, like Colin Powell at the UN. Most likely, any proof coming out of the Bush regime would be highly suspicious, given their track record on veracity in general.

I’d like to thank the choir for that last song. I’ve always found it moving. Ever since a young man when first called to the ministry.

The title to my messaqe today is ‘Global Positioning Systems: The only one you need is in the Bible.’

Mrs. K8 @ 141
raven @ 142
Badwater @ 143

The navigation system of modern ships is built around GPS and also records the ships position and track. This information is stored in the ships nav. system. Acccess to that is required to ascertain exactly where the position was. Also if the location was actually in a disputed area is something that has to be looked at very carefully. Making a claim, one way or another without having the actual facts is dodgy at best and should be looked on as self-serving and suspect until the facts are available. Presumably the Iranians have the vessel as well so any pronouncement of fact without having the vessel is pure c*ap and serves an agenda rather than truth. All the best…….

the sinners tried to track the Ark. couldn’t do it. got too wet in the rain (congrgation laughter).

job tried to read some device when he should have been reading his own heart (shouts of ‘amen’from the congregation).

and of course our blessed lord didn’t need a global positioning system when he asked ‘my god my god why have you forsaken me’ did he? (congregation claps hands, shouts ‘amen’)

Oh! Mabel’s!

Arnie @ 161

Mrs. K8 @ 141
raven @ 142
Badwater @ 143

The navigation system of modern ships is built around GPS and also records the ships position and track. This information is stored in the ships nav. system. Acccess to that is required to ascertain exactly where the position was. Also if the location was actually in a disputed area is something that has to be looked at very carefully. Making a claim, one way or another without having the actual facts is dodgy at best and should be looked on as self-serving and suspect until the facts are available. Presumably the Iranians have the vessel as well so any pronouncement of fact without having the vessel is pure c*ap and serves an agenda rather than truth. All the best…….

Here’s a picture of the type of boat the soldiers would have been in. I doubt very much we have a LANDSAT photo of this boat or GPS in the navigation system. (Hint, it’s an inflatible boat).

Here’s linky to the article supporting my claim.

Deacon Blues @ 17

Christy, I watched Planet Earth as well, and I agree with you that it’s a beautifully photographed and produced series. BUT. I watched the first hour, and by that time I was fed up with the “three-minutes-of-show, five-minutes-of-commercials” shtick; what the hell were they thinking — that viewers wouldn’t notice, or will suffer through it in order to watch what is truly an innovative program? It totally ruined it for me, and I won’t be back. I’ll wait for the DVD to come out.

You could tape it and then watch it later and fast foward through the commercials. Just a suggestion.

an odd poetic synchronicity I cannot figure out to see this thread begin with an image of earth and those stunning images of wildness and now a discussion of global positioning systems

Mrs. K8 @ 119

Good grief.

We subscribe to an “emergency email” system: from emergencyemail.org.

This comes in very handy for us, as most of the announcements concern weather warnings — and that’s important during the summer Arizona “monsoon” season, or for frost warnings in winter, etc.

Today we got a warning from Homeland Security, with nothing but a link. Following the link took you to a page with an announcement that there are over 600,000 “fugitive aliens” in the U.S.

OK, well that’s nice. What am I supposed to do about it? Worry harder? At least with a frost warning I know to put a blanket on the exposed water pipes.

That’s actually pretty fascinating when you think about it. After all, isn’t the latest excuse-du-jour for firing asking the 8 US Attorneys to resign was that they didn’t do enough to combat illegal immigrants?

Ow. My tinfoil hat is on a little tight today. I don’t normally wade into conspiracy theories territory, but it sounds like this type of warning on the emergency system is unusual, and the timing is quite curious.

Christy Hardin Smith @ 53

pseud at 46 — Oooh, it was originally narrated by David Attenborough? I adore his work. Will definitely hold out for a copy with his narration. I didn’t mind Weaver, actually, but you are right that Attenborough is truly sublime.

Ohh, did you ever see his Nature program on Bower Birds. Fascinating! I was riveted.

I’m also taping the Planet Earth series, to watch it without the commercials later. I’ll also wait until I’m more alert to watch it. Right now, I can barely concentrate enough to comprehend MadTV reruns. Dunno how I got through work this morning (I did screw up once – thank goodness my colleagues were able to cover it well). I’m gonna continue to rest in my jammies & cuddle with the cats until I have to go to work tonight.

Christy, here is a link to a clip from the Bower Bird (Attenborough) episode. This is just one of the many types of Bower Birds he covers, but most definitely, the most fascinating to watch.

Pat_AlexVA @ 163

Even ribs will have a small GPS that will record track. Being millitary speck rib, would be even more likely. The maps provided are of very limited use wrt scale and detail. A radar tracking would provide verifiable facts of position but is not provided. There are two sides being proclaimed, keep open the outcome until the facts are known is all I can suggest. Don’t declare war on what you have here. All the best…….

Christine, fly up to Montreal, bring the peanut, take the subway to Parc Olympique, you could visit the Insectarium, with french and english visits. Then you have the Biodome, situated in the ex-Velodrome, four different ecosystem. I was forgetting the botanical gardens, who are having for the next month their annual butterfly fest, it’s such a treat…

Ooooops, Christy.

Mandrake @
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Christy, here is a link to a clip from the Bower Bird (Attenborough) episode. This is just one of the many types of Bower Birds he covers, but most definitely, the most fascinating to watch.

That was terrific. What was surprising was the engineering with supports..bird brain indeed.
Send some of these birds to NOLA beautiful flowers and and all.

Harry Reid’s on the senate floor praising Tony Snow for doing an amazing job as WH Press Secretary

As far as I’m concerned, Harry can sing the praises for Tony Snow ’til he’s blue in the face, as long as he *votes* against and works against all the fuckups Tony’s boss has engineered the past 6 years.

And on that count, so far I think he’s doing fine.

I watched and Tivo’d this on Sunday night. Planned to only catch a few minutes at first and then watch later, but was so mesmerized by the stunning imagery that I was hooked.

This series has already been universally acclaimed — agree with Christy: it is a truly awe-inspiring thing of beauty to watch. Only a heart of stone could not be moved by the majesty of nature and life itself.

Hi
The Arabic Prince that road in one the 1st shuttle flights said when looked back at the little blue sphere hurdling through space it hard to understand why we don’t get along.
It’s they only one we get and we if get it wrong it will clean it’s self off and start again.
jo6pac

I can’t help but think of an extended obituary – we’ll look back and see what we’ve lost