
Senate Judiciary Committee in the 109th Congress, including incoming chairman Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont). (photo credit — Newsday)
No one was surprised that President Bush used his weekly radio address to lecture the Democrats for avoiding the people's business in their efforts to find out more about the US Attorney scandal.
Members of Congress now face a choice: whether they will waste time and provoke an unnecessary confrontation, or whether they will join us in working to do the people's business. We have many important issues before us. So we need to put partisan politics aside and come together to enact important legislation for the American people.
Many in the media ignored this misdirection, but alas, a few oracles of national maturity and reasonableness fell for it. Here, for example, is how David Broder describes the Democrat's investigation:
It seems doubtful that Democrats can help themselves a great deal just by tearing down an already discredited Republican administration with more investigations such as the current attack on the Justice Department and White House over the firings of eight U.S. attorneys.
Broder isn't just saying that the investigation won't help Democrats; he's calling the investigation itself an "attack on the Justice Department." So if the Democrats have reason to believe that the Bush Administration abused the Justice Department by allowing White House political operatives to interfere with prosecutorial discretion in specific cases, trying to expose that is an "attack on the Justice Department." And if the White House were actually doing those things and the Democrats ignored it as the Republicans did for six years, would Broder call that "protecting" the Department? How did the "dean" of American journalists become so ethically confused?
And consider this from George Will, who explains why Americans who are appalled at what the Bush/Cheney regime has done to America should blame themselves for undermining politics:
The politics of disdain — e.g., Howard Dean's judgment that Republicans are "brain dead" and "a lot of them never made an honest living in their lives" — derails politics by defining opponents as beyond the reach of reason. The anger directed at Bush today, like that directed at Clinton during his presidency, luxuriates in its own vehemence.
Will doesn't explain how he can equate the scurrulous efforts of the unprincipled Newt Gingrich with the efforts of a Patrick Leahy, a respected former prosecutor, but never mind that. Will only wants everyone not to be angry at the Bush regime's monumental incompetence, policy recklessness, defiant lawlessness and lying the country into war. Or perhaps he's saying that no one should listen to anyone who is angry about this regime. Okay, I'm calm, but how are we supposed to feel, George? What is the mature, reasonable reaction to such behavior by our nation's highest officials? Perhaps George should listen to his fellow conservatives, because they sound pretty upset.
David Brooks invites us to draw "a proper distinction" (Times Select) between good and bad political interference, but he's really asking us to ignore the clear signs of felonious obstruction of justice by copping to the comparatively minor offense of lacking character:
When you look at the prosecutors who were fired by the Bush administration, you see some who were fired for proper political reasons and some who were fired for improper ones. Carol Lam seems to have been properly let go because she did not share the president's priorities on illegal immigration cases. David Iglesias seems to have been improperly let go because he offended some members of the president's party.
But what's striking in reading through the Justice Department e-mail messages is that senior people in that agency seem never to have thought about the proper role of politics in their decision-making. They reacted like chickens with their heads cut off when this scandal broke because they could not articulate the differences between a proper political firing and an improper one.
Moreover, they had no coherent sense of honor. Alberto Gonzales apparently never communicated a code of conduct to guide them as they wrestled with various political pressures. That's a grievous failure of leadership.
Ah, so the problem here was just a lack of honor and Gonzales' failure to communicate clear rules to childlike DoJ employees. Never mind the fact that Bush chose this dishonorable man as his personal attorney, then his White House Counsel and then the Attorney General of the United States. Does Brooks imagine that George W. Bush is learning all about the dishonorable, incommunicative Gonzales as though it were the first time? My god, wait until our befuddled President learns about Karl Rove! Brooks' game is to retain some credibility by admitting there might be situations in which firings for political reasons would be inappropriate. But while conceding that Senators should not call prosecutors at home about pending cases, Brooks ignores the more serious possibility that the Bush White House was systematically using the Department of Justice as a shield for corrupt Republicans, their lobbyists and donors, and using it as a weapon against Democratic voters, both by pushing bogus voter fraud cases and in shamelessly undermining the DoJ's standards in voting rights cases involving likely Democratic voters. Nothing going on here, folks — just obstruction of justice and undermining democracy — so move along. But oh, we should avoid firing US Attorneys if they "offended some members of the president's party." Yep, that personal stuff is out of bounds. It's just not civil.
There was a reason why the White House had its own political operatives in the Justice Department and why they were loyal to Karl Rove; it's the same reason why an ethically pliant weakling like Gonzales was picked to be Attorney General. It was the same reason why those minions to whom Gonzales delegated the dirty task of compiling a list of targeted US Attorneys knew they had to check with Karl Rove before sending a final list to whomever Gonzales and Miers thought should ratify the final decisions. It's the reason why whether Gonzales attended a November meeting in which the list was discussed or didn't attend is essentially irrelevant beyond confirming that Gonzales is not an honest man. And that reason has nothing to do with Brook's notion of "good" versus "bad" politics. Let's be clear for Mr. Brooks. The Justice Department/White House scandal is not about offending Republican Senators, though the Senator from New Mexico may well have flirted with obstruction of justice. And the scandal has little if anything to do with whether the dismissed attorneys were sufficiently focused on immigration, as Brooks hopes. This scandal is a thousand times more serious.
This scandal is about the White House effort to transform a portion of the Department of Justice into a criminal enterprise, a weapon to be wielded by Karl Rove, the White House' senior political operative, to secure and maintain a Republican regime and ruling majority. Its tactics can't be described as either "good" or "bad" political interference; they were criminal, because they included undermining the nation's voting laws to selectively discourage Democratic voters, abusing prosecutorial discretion to intimidate or destroy Democratic officials and shielding Republican officials and Republican lobbyists and contributors from exposure for their corruption, all of which was linked via Abramoff/Cunningham type scandals to funding the Republican party.
The types of DoJ and WH employees who would be willing to sustain this criminal enterprise were precisely those whose fundamental disregard for the rule of law and common decency would also countenance the use of torture, rendition, denial of due process and habeas corpus and other assaults on the principles of fair and honest trials. They were people to whom the Fourth Amendment was an irrelevant distraction and to whom the Geneva Conventions were quaint relics. They are the same types who had no qualms enabling vested interests to evade proper regulation and public accountability as they bilked the public and plundered the nation's treasure and resources. Does Brooks really believe that all these people lacked was a code of conduct conveyed by Gonzales? Were they just folks with whom George Will would have enjoyed a civil chat?
To run a lawless enterprise, the regime needed a handful of lawless people at key positions in the Justice Department, and to protect them from a possible Democratic Senate, they needed to have the selection of these henchmen outside Congressional approval. These in turn would hold the rest of the enterprise in check through fear and political intimidation. All they needed from the media and every honest attorney — probably the bulk of the US Attorneys and career public servants in the Justice Department and agencies — was their silence — and for five years they mostly got it, while stifling the few whistleblowers courageous enough to speak up. But every honest and self respecting employee in the Department and throughout the US government should be appalled and everyone should be speaking out. It is your country, your agencies and your careers and reputations they subverted, and it's still going on.
What this regime has done to DoJ is like a cancer on the very notions of justice and the rule of law. If left unchecked, it can infect all of government. Uncovering the full extent of this cancer and rooting it out are essential not only to restoring confidence in the Justice Department and its fair administration but in reestablishing the rule of law throughout government.
In pushing this investigation, the Democrats are doing an essential aspect of the people's business. If George Will, David Brooks and David Broder cannot see this, that is a pity, but then no one should look to these men to advise us on how to restore public trust in government.
UPDATE: Glenn Greenwald has more here and here about why this is so important. (h/t jayackroyd)



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Mad props! Yo!
Or perhaps he’s saying that no one should listed to anyone who is angry…
Well, i’m listening!
Leahy!
Waxman!
Fitz!
Awesome post…
And why does Lou Dobbs characterize the Congress’ effort to get to the bottom of this nefarious plot to politicize the judiciary as “Political Gamesmanship”? That’s such a crock of crap. America voted for checks and balances in ‘06 and now the congress is doing its job (thank god) and all the support they get from the media is backstabbing.
I heard that JoeL is going to be offered a choice: vote with the Dems on the attorney scandal, or join another caucus.
Wow, scarecrow – spotlighting this one!
Kathryn in MA @
2
Thanks Kathryn. Refresh.
Good morning everyone. Almost sunny in Boston, and snow is virtually gone. We never really had winter.
I used to wonder if our esteemed punditocracy was just so drunk on cocktail weenie sauce that they were ignorant, or if they were knowingly serving a purpose for their Conglomerate string-pullers.
The last few months have left no doubt. These people know exactly why they write what they write. They are here to keep the voting public buying into the political dynamics the pundits, and comedians like Limpballs have worked so hard to create over the last 30 years or so. Evil, evil people. They don’t seem to notice all the people starving and dieing as they have their dinners and slap themselves on their back. They must be thrown to the curb. Viva la new media! Get everyone you know off the Conglomerate Media teat and reading places like FDL – now!
This is a great post, and starts getting at the overall Rove conspiracy, which was his real plan for GOP dominance forever. The first layer was electoral–get GOP office holders in by electing them. And then keeping them in by illegally seizing control of the electoral and U.S. Justice machinery across the country, using control of Congress to nip oversight in the bud. Thank God for the Nov. 2006 results or we’d be well on the way to dictatorship. As it is, we’re still in a world of hurt.
Second, Novak has a hilarious column up today complaining about Bush. Novak finally figured out W. is isolated. The funny part is when Novak starts talking about Attorneys General, especially those serving “in recent decades.” His examples? Bobby Kennedy and Ed Levy. Looks like Bob wandered into the Wayback Machine without realizing it.
exactly right – turning our government into an organized crime syndicate ought to outrage everyone, regardless of partisan affiliation.
From the Department of More of the Same Department.
Witnesses have told congressional investigators that the chief of the General Services Administration and a deputy in Karl Rove’s political affairs office at the White House joined in a videoconference earlier this year with top GSA political appointees, who discussed ways to help Republican candidates.
Morning, Scarecrow
Excellent post that makes the very important point that those who chose to stay silent either were intimidated,refused to believe(only following orders), or were complicit in the Criminal enterprise.
dear nyt,
please replace brooks with scarecrow. it’s your patriotic duty.
sincerely,
a concerned citizen
Good Morning Scarecrow and Firedogs,
dayum Scarecrow, you keep up this level of quality and I’m gonna have carpal tunnel from all the Spotlighting !!!
great post-Broder and Will are so in denial to themselves~it is just amazing.
I wnat these fired Attorneys to break it open-that professionalism is NOT partisian and is what we ALL should be aiming for-this good ol boy network BS will kill our Country.
side note: on the home page there were all sorts of wierd little symbls in the text above but when I opened the thread, they went away… computers. huh.
The flood waters are rising on this corrupt bunch, and water’s springing through leaks at every little crack in their formerly formidable foundation. They are toast.
OT — Props to Imus this morning. He sounded just like a blogger excoriating Couric about last night’s 60 Minutes interview: inappropriately aggressive, “beating up on the Edwardses.” Exactly.
At the outset, Elizabeth responded to a question and noted that just in the last hour someone had hugged her with a tear running down her cheek. My money’s on Couric’s tear. Maybe knowing the shame of what she was about to do to them with her disgraceful “I’ll show the world I’m a tough guy” line of questioning.
Grace and restraint on the Edwardses part. My heroes.
My hero today too, Biden [see my comment late last thread]…for asking Imus to help him advocate for funds for v-shaped vehicles for Iraq.
The times they are a’changing….
Scarecrow @ 8
we have, however, had an absence of spring & summer. i’m looking forward to seeing things growing again.
You either have a conscience. Or you don’t have a conscience. And people lacking conscience are what the bush regime is looking for.
If gonzales needed to provide rules, it was for the people who, lacking a conscience, were only looking to see which way the wind was blowing – the wind of sycophancy.
What is so disturbing in this administration is the evidence of so many individuals willing to jetison conscience – or lacking one entirely.
This situation reminds me of children who’ve been abused. They learn that it’s “good” to do wrong and it’s “bad” to do the right thing. They buy into that and lose all will to think for themselves – but instead look to the abusers to define reality.
It is frightening that this type of thinking has seeped into every aspect of government and that we see it all over in business, which of course has been encouraged to live by the rules of predators since oversight has been thrown out the window.
It is certainly the people’s business that conscience, ethics, and the rule of law have been thrown out the window by those in power.
Jim Clausen @ 13
IIRC, it was Sen. Leahy who alluded the other night on K.O.’s “Countdown” that there were others in DOJ who might come forth with more on this. I have no doubt that there were a lot of Rove’s bodies to hide; all we need to do is encourage those who know where they lay hidden to come forward.
Excellent post, Scarecrow.
I hope junya has nightmares and sees Leahy, Feinstein, Waxman and Conyers riding down on him like the 4 horsemen of the apocolypse.
This scandal is about the White House effort to transform a portion of the Department of Justice into a criminal enterprise, a weapon to be wielded by Karl Rove, the White House’ senior political operative, to secure and maintain a Republican regime and ruling majority. It’s tactics can’t be described as either “good” or “bad” political interference; they were criminal, because they included undermining the nation’s voting laws to selectively discourage Democratic voters, abusing prosecutorial discretion to intimidate or destroy Democratic officials and shielding Republican officials and Republican lobbyists and contributors from exposure for their corruption, all of which was linked via Abramoff/Cunningham type scandals to funding the Republican party.
My bold. The money quote.
today, i’m hoping for a bit more of the people’s business (as opposed to pharma’s business)…
house committee oversight and government reform:
Hearing on Biotech Drugs
On Monday, March 26, at 10 a.m., the Oversight Committee will hold a hearing to examine the high cost of biotech medicines to our health care system, as well the prospects and need for a pathway that would allow the FDA to approve safe and affordable generic versions of biotech drugs. Witnesses will include representatives of FDA, pharmaceutical manufacturers, scientists, and consumer groups.
bonkers — I’ve beeen struggling to understand how the more respectable pundits became such a problem, and I haven’t sorted it all out. But Broder’s column is a good example of how some came to see themselves as spectators as a political game in which they themselves had nothing at stake. Broder’s emphasis in that column is to explain how various events befalling the Bush regime are giving the Demos an opening to make political gains, and the comment I criticize was just his observation that it wouldn’t help the Dems to pursue more scandals. He may or may not be right, but that’s hardly the question a pundit of his stature should be addressing. If his beat is the grand political “game” of American democracy, that’s fine, but his role includes protecting the fairness of the game, not just watching as though it didn’t matter.
p.s. “topy” cop: “It’s tactics” sh be “Its tactics”… no apostrophe in possessive, just in the contraction of it is.
Boggles the mind — how is it possible Will and Broder and Brooks and the rest of the talking heads don’t get this mess, cannot grok it for what it is?
They need merely mirror it in a future administration where the president and the majority in Congress are all Dems. Would they tolerate this mess?
The only rationale I can find to support their deliberate obtuseness is that they are on the take.
Remember the Armstrong Williams, Maggie Gallagher, Mike McManus payola cases? I think it was Williams who said there were a lot more out there. Did they not get caught or not prosecuted? Is that why we continue to see these talking heads acting so willfully obtuse?
And really, what did happen to Williams, Gallagher, McManus…were they ever prosecuted? Payola is a federal violation, not a state violation…? Did this send a green light and a paycheck to talking heads?
Scarecrow—mornin’. When we lived in Boston there were six seasons:
Summer, autumn, winter, more winter, mud, and spring.
Good morning all,
Has anybody else noticed that while the Administration keeps sinking lower and lower, gas prices have been creeping up higher and higher?
While the Administration’s parade of fuck-ups keep us political junkies enraged, once the general population realizes that gas prices are back to post-Katrina levels, W’s gonna have some more ’splainin’ to do.
Fuck impeachment. Resign. Now. And take your insane vice president with you.
“If George Will, David Brooks and David Broder cannot see this, that is a pity, but then no one should look to these men to advise us on how to restore public trust in government.”
George, David and Mr Broder are just playing out their roles as being the “balanced” portion of their respective papers (periodicals). The drivel above just goes to show how difficult its become for them to defend (make excuses)this administration. They must shudder when proofreading their final work at deadline time and think ..”is this the best I can come up with?!?..” It is tough times for these apologists.
Scarecrow @ 24
I think I saw a comment in the replies, “Dave Broder: afflicting the afflicted and comforting the comfortable for the last 30 years”.
ruffian — side note: on the home page there were all sorts of wierd little symbls in the text above but when I opened the thread, they went away… computers. huh. Sorry about that. Whenever I do initial composing in Word on my Mac, then cut/paste to WordPress, the initial post includes the hieroglyphics. But I cannot see it; everything looks fine on my Mac. That you saw them and they disappeared suggests there is a fixer fairy working in the background. Thanks for the heads up. And Thank You Fixer Fairy.
delightful little irony from ifthethunderdon’tgetya’s WaPo link above -
from the wiki -
1) Scarecrow, some of your code is a touch hinky. Go check it out. (Ah, never mind — you just did!)
2) This all goes back to what Atrios was saying last week about DC’s elites having become, after several decades of Republican presidents and twelve years of a GOP Congress, Republican from stem to stern. (Ironically enough, the majority of the District’s citizens are overwhelmingly Democratic and hate their self-appointed cultural overlords. When the GOP Congress decided to shove the name change for National Airport down DC’s throat, they had to literally pass a law to force DC to change the signage to recognize the new name — and to this day, you can tell a true DCer, as he/she will flatly refuse to use the new name; the place is, was, and will always be NATIONAL AIRPORT.)
Prairie Sunshine @ 25
Thanks. fixed. I know the rule but my fingers don’t.
Can someone explain why the Beltway media unanimously considers this a trivial issue?
Glenn Greenwald has clip of five of them on tweety’s show–who think this is all very funny politics. Scarecrow leaves out AdNags who hit every single Republican talking point yesterday.
And now Brian Williams is on Imus talking about mud splashing on the Democrats. And pushing the republican talking point that the democrats should legislate, not investigate.
And now he says that they have to cover it, because Bush and the democrats are so angry, spitting sparks.
Why? What is hard to for the beltway media to get?
Thanks, Scarecrow! Your insights are such an asset to FDL readers.
Brian Williams is a Republican and Rush Limbaugh’s buddy. That is all.
Everyone refresh and then let us know whether you are still seeing the code hieroglyphics in the post.
The DOJ under the bush administration has been politicized almost beyond recognition. Early signs of the bushies evil intentions were in the civil rights division of the DOJ. Witness this from the WaPo in 2005.
Arlen said he was thinking of looking into it at the time.
The full article is here
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01894.html
One can be certain that the USAs purge was part of an ongoing “cleansing” of the DOJ
(my emphasis)
Prairie Sunshine @ 22
My bold. The money quote.
The observation in TPM yesterday that the surreptitious addition of an amendment to the Patriot Act to permit replacement of USA’s without Senate oversight was part of the larger plot is spot on.
Hiding that change from Congress, and the shifting explanations offered by the administation since then, is evidence to me that the administration knows its purposes won’t stand the light of day.
code all fixed. looks good.
jayackroyd @ 35
Yes. The Nagourney piece fits here, in spades.
refreshing Scarecrow @ 38
Gonsales called this an “overblown personnel matter”, sort of the way that Watergate was a “third rate burglary”.
a few days ago I made the following suggestion;
congress needs to subvert any court challenge concerning subpoena and go straight to impeaching abu torture
this would be good for us on quite a few levels
first, we would be serving notice to the president;
1) “there is no dragging your feet, you will obey the rule of law, you will honor subpoena”
2) “the supreme court will not protect you against subpoena either, we will not wait for a supreme court test, you will be impeached”
3) “if you are a congressman or senator who enabled these acts of treason the day of reckoning is here, if you want to save your sorry careers start throwing people under the buss”
that’s it…very simple, abu torture avoiding subpoena is possibly the best thing that can happen for congress’s oversight requirements, it will get the ball rolling MUCH sooner
it seems like the boston nes reads here at the lake…check this out
THE HOUSE of Representatives should begin impeachment proceedings against Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.
Gonzales, the nation’s highest legal officer, has been point man for serial assaults against the rule of law, most recently in the crude attempt to politicize criminal prosecutions. Obstruction of a prosecution is a felony, even when committed by the attorney general.
snd he goes on to enumerate the good reasons for impeachment rather then a court challenge to subpeona
this is the way we have to go, no dialogue with the president or his spokespeople, we need to serve subpeona and if defied we go stratight to impeachment of abut torture
you want to watch our government conduct it’s bussiness on the fast track?…that’sthe formula
nomolos at 39 — thanks for finding that link. I’ll add it to the post.
jayackroyd @ 35
For all we see in public, the behind the scenes propagandizing to the media is probably a thousand times more aggressive than what they’re spreading through the media. The whispering in the ears of the Wills and Brooks and Broders and Woodwards of today is likely all about ego-stroking and, um, ego-stroking….
Part of what’s happening with some of the “talking deads” is a case of cognitive dissonance. Having bought into this administration, in many cases staked their careers on this whole house of neo-con house of cards, and yes probably on the take as well – they simply have too much at stake to really take an honest look at what they, not just the pols, have wrought.
Cognitive dissonance means that once people are highly invested in something they have purchased, worked for, believe in etc. they become inordinate believers and promoters of their chosen (you name it). Even in the face of contradictory evidence people will continue to cling to their beliefs – because to change them means they have to change themselves.
So we are talking beliefs here. Not facts. And beliefs are bound up with identity and so on. For some of these people it will take a huge tsunami to overturn their cherished view of the world. And unfortunately that tsunami will overturn our world, not just theirs.
It takes enormous courage for someone to face reality, when they have spent time, energy, careers on something which is turning out to be a gigantic failure. So instead of admit failure, they are twisting and turning the facts in a desperate effort to try and salvage what they’ve staked everything on.
Tipping points may come. But as they tip, they will lose their “friends” – and are we really ready to welcome them with open arms? They probably suspect not. And honestly they’re probably right. So even when they tip and see the truth, they may find themselves in a very, very lonely land.
jayackroyd @ 35
because they are marionettes, they do the bidding of their puppeteers so long as their readership falls in lock step
it’s not always possible to get the readership to go along with the talking points and if a media source wants to maintain their influence over their market sometimes they are forced into reporting the facts instead of the script
TheraP @ 48
we can try to welcome them… or at least help them through their intellectual/emotional transitions…
that’s our challenge…
“The anger directed at Bush today, like that directed at Clinton during his presidency, luxuriates in its own vehemence.”
George Will has lived and breathed the atmosphere of Washington DC for the past 25 years, and he still can’t see the difference between anger at Clinton, a popular president who tried to make government work, and anger at Bush, a transparent sock puppet whose administration has been an ongoing criminal enterprise from day one.
And the man has a PhD in history! From freakin’ Cambridge!
Me no get.
Prairie Sunshine @
22
My bold. The money quote.
WORD!
Another great post, Scarecrow.
Little bit north, radically different climate. We had 5 feet powder in the last month or so, and quite a bit remains.
I’m hoping we will see more editorials using words like “Fredo” in the title – call this administration what it is – a criminal enterprise.
selise @ 50
You are a good soul!!!
1) As Atrios and others have noted, decades of GOP presidents and twelve years of a GOP Congress allowed Republicans and conservatives to take over much of the power structure in the Beltway; the press came to get schmoozy with them and think of them as their friends. (This process was well underway by the time Bill Clinton took office; remember the way that CelebCorps went to bat for Billy Dale, the Reagan/Bush-era White Travel office head who embezzled $50,000?)
2) The corporate titans who own our media are greatly indebted to the GOP for the following big favors: killing the Fairness Doctrine (which the networks claimed cost them money), giving them huge corporate tax breaks (along with most other corporations), and gutting the FCC’s anti-trust regulations. (Incidentally, killing the Fairness Doctrine is what made the rise of Limbaugh and the other well-subsidized hate-radio jocks possible, and helped pave the way for FOX News.)
some housekeeping oddz ‘n endz -
career professionals in Civil Rights division are now talking – on the record
LAT
preceeded earlier in the day by this admission via Las Vegas Sun that USA Nevada was let go so as to fill the Fed. Judgeship pipeline -
Las Vegas Sun
sweet jeebus these are some 1st String Dumbasses
There is hope.
Bloggers like Scarecrow will eventually consign journalists like Will and Broder to the unemployment line, where they belong. I could name another twenty or so who should join them.
Keep it up, FDL.
[Mod Note; if you use italics, please take care to close them, thanks]
Scarecrow @
34
Having an English teacher for a mother, she always suggested that I say the contraction out loud. Helps me to determine if its “its” or “it is.” Also works with “there, their, they’re (they are) etc… :})
I think it’s because many people view all of this as pure politics, like some kind of chess game. I was talking to someone last night who said that the next important thing was the 2008 election. I tried to explain that we just had an election, and there was crucial work to do now, and in fact, great work being done by the likes of Waxman, Pelosi, Conyers, and my Senator, Leahy.
Prairie sunshine at 47
Sure. And I have heard that Democrats are much less aggressive in lobbying the media. But, jeez, this still makes them into brainless tools.
Stop reading them, stop listening to them.
Put them outta bidness.
Great post, scarecrow, as always.
Again, I appreciate you guys reading these pieces so I don’t have to! When I try to read them, I simply cannot follow their logic, which is just basically going around the world to touch the @$$ of continuing to prop up the Bushco Regime. It is a mentally exhausting exercise to make sense of these arguments. I might as well stuff cotton candy into my brain.
Excellent post. The best single summary I’ve seen on this issue.
You only have to look at Rove’s history in Texas, where his focus was to change the Texas judiciary, to understand who is behind the current scandal in D.C.
I am several days behind in the threads so I don’t know if everyone’s seen this 11 sec. clip from Tweety -
but what will we tell Broderella ???
RAM @ 10
next he’ll be writing about ’summer jobs for students’ with the illustration of a strapping young man with ice tongs delivering to an ‘icebox’ in a 4th floor walkup….
or how bush has restored honour to the white house…
Scarecrow @ 38
Refreshed but still seeing them on home page. Running Safari on G4 iBook with sys 10.4.whatever
4 individuals in cleveland, 3 in chicago, 11 in new york, and 2 in mosinee wisconsin just read a david broder column and thought, ‘wow do i ever love being informed.this guy just hits the nail on the head.’
wait; correction. ‘milton zaprowski of mosinee wisconsin just changed his mind and decided it was ‘the same empty b.s. they’ve been shovelling at me for years.’
Glenn answers my question.
Read the whole thing.
PW at 56: Not only that but the ad money spent by corporations in the media allow them to control content.
which takes me back to T-Rex’s post, about NPR using flacks but finally gave the blogs the credit they deserve. Is it any wonder why corporations and politicos want to control the internet?
FWIW – Here’s my take on david brooks:
Talk about the unconscious: You can always tell how bad things are going with the Republicans, when David Brooks wanders far afield in his commentary. His column of 3/18/07 is a perfect example of the unconscious at work.
While the administration is in just about as bad a position as any administration could be (wars going badly, care of wounded going badly, justice going badly, economy going badly, scandals sprouting weekly), Mr. Brooks turns his attention to unconscious factors in baseball.
My attention was instead caught by the unconscious turning of his attention to anything but politics. In my field we call this a defense mechanism.
Phoenix Woman at 56 — yes, wrt the fairness doctrine and merger rules; and I’m grateful you keep bringing those rules changes into the conversation. Much work to be done.
OT but I think an important reminder of why social justice is important:
Farm worker living condition in the Coachella Valley of California
No Justice, No Peace!
Brooks, Will, Broder are like the “good” Germans who worked at the post office.
For republicans, it is all about party loyalty. When this is over, I do no think there will be a single GOPer left with a shred of integrity.
It is critical that the Democrats put a steak through the heart of this criminal, fascist enterprise.
I think that when somebody like David Brooks talks about baseball he’s seeing himself star in a production of ‘Oklahoma.’
A neck kerchief, a square-dance with a girl in gingham, a trick with a rope.
just ‘down home’ stuff for a ‘frontier explorin’ type of guy.
perpetuating some 1950’s tv mythology about the good in ward cleaver’s heart.
well except for the day he came home to find
‘June’ remarried to Eldridge Cleaver.
Scarecrow–you might also link to Glenn’s post today.
i While the administration is in just about as bad a position as any administration could be (wars going badly, care of wounded going badly, justice going badly, economy going badly, scandals sprouting weekly), Mr. Brooks turns his attention to unconscious factors in baseball.
Tut Tut.
Mr. Brooks did employ the term flip-flopper in describing Senator Kerry during the 2004 election.
He learned that one in journalism school.
I would think there must be a market for an independent newspaper that prints real journalism and has real journalists writing for it, until I realized that it wouldn’t get any ad income to support it. No corporation in this country would want a newspaper like that to succeed.
jayackroyd @ 76
I already put it in an update. Refresh.
ESaund @ 74
you have hit the nail right on the head
the “republicans” that continue defending these criminals have abandoned all of their principles
once they thought they were all about the constitution, now the constitution is obsolete, once they were all about the integrity of presidetial office, now they are about “you have to do what needs to be done”, once they were all about the rule of law, now they defend breaking law, once they were about a strong military now they are about whatever teh draft dodgers do to destroy our ability is fine
this list of “once then but now now” goes on ad infinitum and it would make a great entry if someone wants to write it here at the lake
these “republicans” cannot accept that they are responsible for enabling the damage that has been done to our country and rather then blame themselves, (and they ARE to blame), they will continue to excuse.
they don’t want to pass through this world believing they are a party to what has happened
two terms here;
“cognitive dissonance”
“escalating commitment”
both apply, while the latter is usually used in terms of financial ans military investment in this case it is true of intellectual investment…all their self worth rides on this coming out right and they will continue to invest their intellect, their integrity, their future and their children’s future rather then be this wrong
Scarecrow @ 24
Very good perception. I think this goes a long way to explaining the utter vacuousness of the punditry since Clinton’s election. It’s just infotainment to the editors. Meanwhile, the reactionary pundits slip in their op-ed slime every other day. When did it stop mattering to these people? Did they start getting paid too much? Money affects people’s judgment about who they are relative to everyone else.
by no means his definitive piece on Brooks but my fave driftglass shorthand :)
drifty
Scarecrow @
79
oops; I see you meant a newer one today. I added it.
here’s what I think the White House is really afraid of….
the discovery that Bush never authorized in advance that resignations would be requested from the eight USAs. Remember these USAs serve “at the pleasure of the President” — they cannot be dismissed by his underlings. But what if the underlings didn’t bother to even tell Bush what they were doing?
I think somewhat related: Media Matters documents the preponderance of “CONSERVATIVES” on the Sunday taling heads circuit. On MSNBC and CNN and notably on Scarborough and Tweety, the repub strategists are so frequently allowed to overtalk demo strategist. The repubs are generally better at spouting their talking points (like a tape recorder) Do they have special training camps? It makes me crazy
selise @ 23
Ahh, but Michael Moore will be opening this can of worms soon and then I believe pharma also will be a hot subject.
Scarecrow at 83–I think the new one is better, if you only want one.p.lukasiak @ 84
You mean like when Harriet Miers wondered whether there was a need to involve the “boss.”
I think you’re wrong here. I think Bush is very engaged in the political side of his presidency. That’s what he did for his father.
IT is so easy to refute Bush’s statements with a simple:
“That’s kinda what Nixon said.”
Elliott RIchardson, where are you when we need you.
Great post.
I’m at work (and gawd is the day going slow) but I did a quick post about the Katie Couric interview of John and Elizabeth Edwards, and the shameless use of “blind quotes” before I headed out.
“Some say…”
http://www.independentbloggers.org
Scarecrow @ 24
political reporters believe that professionalism requires them to regard and review politics as nothing more than sports, and that their job, like those of sportswriters, is to detail the stratgies the campaigns/coaches use, and get into all the nuts and bolts of the preparation before the game (vote) and then tell you the final score.
anything else is considered “cheering in the pressbox,” impossibly bad form. and to actually look at the ideology motivating whatever the strategies are? unforgiveably judgmental and certainly not detached.
it’s a total crock, of course, but it’s how the washington media likes to think of itself — removed, distanced, oh so hiply cynical. they can’t for a second acknowledge that they have gotten played for colossal jackasses by folks who care not one whit for press “traditions” or “conventions,” except how they may be used to advance the agenda, which is power, the accrual and maintenance thereof.
perris @ 80
In a nutshell.
jayackroyd @ 69:
I think Greenwald gets it right. I don’t believe that most of the beltway pundits are stupid. Broder, Brooks, et. al. know full well that the USA issue is much more than a tawdry political skirmish. But it’s in their personal interests to position it as such.
Good morning Scarecrow.
Mornin’ pups.
Whoosh! Who even needs coffee, when you jump-start our morning in such incredible style!
Grrrrrowf!
Love the pic. heh
sayyyy….
is arlen meditating?
is orrin prayin’?
is kyle lost?
This post, at 48, is right on point with regard to actions which can and should be taken to start the public – the audience, when all is said and done – becoming aware of the medium for the problem – whoring journalists.
The action should be to begin studying the salaries of highly visible reporters.. Like the guys Joe Sixpack sees ever night on their network news.
This may seem off point, but it is uncanny the amount of sour skepticism garnered when some ordinary working class person gets a peek at how much some “suit” makes – it just KILLS the suit’s credibility with the audience. “Well, here is a guy making $400,000 a year who is going to make waves and do real investigative journalism?” NO WAY Joe Sixpack is going to give him any credibility.
The undermining of these “talking deads” (love that metaphor!) needs to start by having the journalists appear as reaping unreasonable rewards from the status quo. “Rock the boat and lose my Lexus or BMW? NO WAY!”
TheraP @
48
Remember the days when the media would camp out in order to ask people questions whether they wanted to answer them or not? Remember all the “no comments” coming out of scoundrels? Well where the hell are Pete Domenici and Heather Wilson at? Cant the press go ask them a few questions?
sunshine @ 86
thanks for reminding me, i’d forgotten about moore’s next project.
One word that comes to my mind to describe the relationship between the wh administration, repub senators & reps and the media covering them is incestuous.
Re jayackroyd @ 87:
Yes indeed, bush has an interest in politics. He has NO interest in governing. Just in politics.
That, in a nutshell, is why we’re where we’re at today. Reward politics. Punish governance. Reward cronies. Punish public servants. Etc. Etc.
Power. The accumulation of it. The using of it.
Mornin’ Pups,
been away from the Lake most of the weekend (sick in bed–sleeping like the dead)
Just trying to catch up now.
Very nice post Christy
TheraP @ 48
Back in my college days, I used to enter a lot of road races (10K’s, half marathons mostly). I was pretty fast back then, and although I never won any of them, I occasionally cracked the top ten. It was considered good manners to wait around for the last runners & walkers to come in and cheer them as they belatedly crossed the finish line. And so it should be when former supporters of this corrupt and illegitimate regime see the light and find their way home. Hand them a bottle of water, a slice of orange, a t-shirt, and a flier for the next “race.” We dance around a bonfire of truth and inclusiveness and should welcome all who wander in from the cold and dark.
Hey lhp!
Good to see you. Scarecrow’s post btw.
Scarecrow, you’re in top form today!
Even tho I know the facts, you assemble
them in a way that makes me even more
frightened about how far they’ve gone.
Steambomb @ 95
You know, the press did not hestitate to make PatFitz walk a gaunlet and answer “no comment” every time he went to the GJ at eh Prettyman Courthouse. They still know how to do it. Funny how they use that ability
it’s a total crock, of course, but it’s how the washington media likes to think of itself — removed, distanced, oh so hiply cynical. they can’t for a second acknowledge that they have gotten played for colossal jackasses by folks who care not one whit for press “traditions” or “conventions,” except how they may be used to advance the agenda, which is power, the accrual and maintenance thereof.
There’s an article in the newest Vanity Fair that makes a good case for the reason media-types are so easily played by the Repukes.
The article maintains that Dems are from academia and act as such and the Repukes are corporate and market their ‘product’ better.
Nothing new here, except that the article describes the repuke tactics that have been successful such as always returning reporters phone calls and never missing a chance to ‘work the refs’, so to speak. On the other hand, the Dems have a tendency to not want to speak to reporters and are uncomfortable doing so (according to the article.)
Reminds me of an old Bear Bryant story. When asked how he handled sports reporters, he said something to the effect that with a steak and a fifth of whiskey, he could get his way with any reporter.
Puesto @94. You should be called “Presto!”
Dig and ye shall find.
egregious @ 101
OOps! Sorry Scarecrow, this is Christy’s usual spot, I assumed without looking at the byline.
My bad
TRANSCRIPTS
oh, poor baby, the president doesn’t like when his former top aids call Iraq a civil war.
wahhhh
wahhhh…wahhhHHHHH…whAAAhhh
Hi EG!
Cracks me up to have the nit grumping on one hand about those do-nothin’-Dems &, at the same time, trying to juggle the eyedeee that Dems are gettin’ too deeply into areas he’d been hidin’ quite successfully during the pug-reign, thereby & thus-wise causin’ his-noble-self to consider the dreaded V.E.T.O. option.
oooooooooo. whut’s a deeemockrissee to do?!
upheave???
don’t make us do it, fella.
just resign & we’ll play nice.
OH! an’ take that shooter-fella wit’ ya.
looseheadprop @ 108
I want to say hi too
*waves*
Rushton @ 90—It was considered good manners to wait around for the last runners & walkers to come in and cheer them as they belatedly crossed the finish line. And so it should be when former supporters of this corrupt and illegitimate regime see the light and find their way home. Hand them a bottle of water, a slice of orange, a t-shirt, and a flier for the next “race.”
Rushton I love this metaphor. We do need to welcome people when they finally wake up. They will be embarrassed and humiliated.
ESaund @
74
I don’t think I want to wait around for them to die of heart disease. IMPEACH!!
looseheadprop @ 98
Morning, lhp. Have some coffee. I’ve been cold/flu/dizzy fuzzy head since Thursday nite. Something’s going round fdl. Please wash your hands before typing.
good morning looseheadprop,
hope you caught the links at 6:15 am, my # 57 above – was certainly thinking of you and Christy when I saw them :)
and while you are talking about George Will, I find his remarks about the vilifying of political opposition as beyond reason–
“—like that directed at Clinton during his presidency, luxuriates in its own vehemence.”
I seem to recall Mr. Will was one of the luxuriators.
perris @ 109
woot! me too, me too! HI ALL!
What a nice monday morn!
but I hear I gotta go evict a sparrow from Sr. Bluebird’s favorite nestbox. -be right back in a sec- ;->
Scarecrow, a true masterpiece. THANKS!!
Rushton @ 100 and selese earlier:
Problem is, if these folks “turn,” will it be for real? Or for looking for the next hand-out?
Problem is, honestly, do these people have a conscience left? That needs to be the question. If not, then you can’t trust their “words” of remorse or conversion.
I hate to sound paranoid, but caution is important. Just as important as keeping an open mind.
What is the saying? From the Gospel even – to be cunning as serpents even while being meek as … lambs?
We need to maintain our integrity, while exercising caution.
Rushton, theraP — important insights. I like this:
We dance around a bonfire of truth and inclusiveness and should welcome all who wander in from the cold and dark.
84 –
I think what they are worried about is that after having the President and others go to such extremes to say he was not involved at all, only to be faced with the reality that if he was not involved, then the removals were not legally authorize, they created their own catch-22.
Did the President tell the truth, in which case his boys at DOJ illegally removed USAs without authoriation – -
Or does the President provide cover by saying he did give authorization, in which case he and his spokespersons have lied over and over.
Two unattractive possiblities.
Then, to the extent that removals like Lam’s have OTHER obstruction overtones, DOJ/WH policies on voter suppression have other criminal and obstruction policies, and the Ark appointment has the clearly stated intent in the emails of a DOJ conspiracy to mislead Congress and to circumvent Constitutionally required advice and consent; well those are things that the President doesn’t really want to be tied in with, even if he didn’t have to admit to lying in order to give the authorization.
So what they really don’t want is public conversation of any type or kind that points out these glaring inconsistencies and issues.
Sean Penn on Cspan. Oh, Oh, he just said “in conclusion.”
Shouldn’t be wondering what kind of honor David Brooks has? What kind of man earns his livelihood defending traitors and corruption in government with the nation’s biggest megaphone? Does he hang his soul on a bathroom hook before he gets dressed in the morning?
This guy would defend the Right of the Signeur to take a bride’s virginity from her husband and say “You were going to lose it anyway. ” The NYT should be ashamed of paying this man.
Sean Penn on C-span right now
RAM @ 10
What you have to realize, is that conservatives like Novak want to get rid of Gonzales, almost as much as liberals, but for different reasons. The Conservative movement is angry at the AG, because he hasn’t enforced immigration laws on our borders.
OT, but a diarist over at Kos mused that Bush may replace Gonzales during a congressional recess to avoid Senate confirmation of a new AG. Seems to be some sort of a custom that recesses need to be 10 days for a president to make a recess appointment…but it’s not a regulation.
My question. Must congress recess at all? Could Reid and Pelosi declare that there will be no recess in the 110th Congress, but work out calendars such that votes aren’t scheduled in weeks where representatives typically are in their home districts? Are there particular kinds of business that must be conducted for congress to be officially in session? I’m just wondering if there’s a procedural avenue here that Reid and Pelosi could take to prevent the admin from further stacking the deck.
Steambomb @
121
here’s the speech
looseheadprop @ 104
yayyyy! join an elite crowd LHP! ahem, i did same last week or so…. folks are very kind & understanding around the Lake, I find…, & Scarecrow especially gracious… so far… ;->
Scarecrow @
24
I’ve thought about this too, and I don’t know what the answer is. I think it has something to do with the tabloidization of journalism and of the implicit appropriateness of inserting journalists opinion into the story. Facts are a second-bit player in the story behind the wow-factor.
Might I add, the thing with pundits these days is they have no compunction whatsoever about completely reversing positions they had in the Clinton years now that we are in the throes of the Bush presidency. What’s more, they don’t expect to be called on it and seldom are.
Okay, so Tim Russert is not “technically” a pundit, but he’s certainly an “enabler” which is basically the same thing these days.
My dad and I were watching Press the Meat Sunday and Specter, of course, had to throw in the thing about Clinton firing all 93 USA’s. My dad of course bemoaned the fact that Clinton is always inevitably dredged up at times like these.
I said “and no mention of Reagan relieving some 80-plus, there.” My dad said “And why is that?” to which I replied “Because it’s TIM RUSSERT!”
‘Nuff said.
Hagel is willing to hang out on a cliff by himself. Impressive that he is bringing up impeachment.
Hagel “The president says, ‘I don’t care.’ He’s not accountable anymore,” Hagel says, measuring his words by the syllable and his syllables almost by the letter. “He’s not accountable anymore, which isn’t totally true. You can impeach him, and before this is over, you might see calls for his impeachment. I don’t know. It depends how this goes.”
Also the NYT hit piece on Gore. Can they sink much lower, here?
P J Evans @
6
PJ, you got a source with a link? I hope it’s true. WAY past time, in fact.
Folks I would like to encourage you all to vote “adverse” in the Democratic Primary. We sent a message to republicans in ‘06. Now lets send a message to the democrats in ‘08. We cannot tolerate the mainstream candidates that are all on the take and have big business in their back pocket. I dont care if I have to vote for mickey mouse in the primary as long as it isn’t one of the big money candidates I’ll feel better about my vote.
New thRedd: Sunshine
Hi Looseheadprop!
I wanted to mention before & never got to it -
I read for the 1st time, in your comments over the weekend, about what you’ve been through healthwise this past year or so. Yikes!
So glad to hear you fooled the doubtfuldocs and are back to walking.
take care, hon!
p.s., always learn lots from your posts, & am most appreciative. ;->
Mandrake @ 128
Several months ago Cheney was on Meet the Press. After Cheney went on and on repeating unsubstantiated claims about Iran’s “alleged” nuclear weapons program. Instead of asking Cheney a simple question like “where’s the hard evidence”? Russert rolled over and asked Cheney “how can we stop them”?
Christy has a new thread ready. Sunshine!
Have a good morning, everyone. Thanks for the comments.
The clip from Sunday’s “Tweetie show” posted on Greenwald’s Salon article from yesterday, is a good case in point about how journalists “speak the mind” of who they are talking about.
These “talking deads” are speaking the mind and answering the question: “What do Dems want?” They answer this and completely miss the mark – “They want Karl Rove.” NOT TRUE! And, in the near term this journalistic sping won’t stick. The cat is out of the bag where Tweetie and his ilk can’t put it back in.
I don’t see this “We want Rove” at all. Most people have no idea who the guy is, other than one of Our Benighted Emperor’s aids. What I see the Dems wanting – Some, at least, who are not whores to the DLC, like Billary – is the indictment of the entire Bush years and BAD governance..
A government which governs in secret, has never, and will never, be trusted by the people. Period.
To me, what I hear the Dems saying is that they now have an extreme example of the core GOP philosophy gone wild. And, they now are asking the audience, and the audience is answering in the obvious way – This is not what democracy is all about and average Americans know it. At every turn in bad governance is avarice. And, Americans know this.
I don’t see anyone wanting Rove as an end in itself. They want to indite a shitty way of governance. Period. Secretive, authoritarian and avaricious.
When has money ever not created “cognitive dissonance” – which, in ordinary “street-speak” is “whoring.”
Zee @ 128
i suspect there is a strong element of a “selection” process going on as well. there are probably thousands of wanabe pundits – and not all of them are going to make to the gang of 500 (or whatever the number is). those who “succeed” are those who are sufficiently indoctrinated, or at least, willing to treat our political process as a game where rules don’t matter.
dude @ 114
I like to watch the steam come out of George Will’s ears when the Nations Katrina Vanden Heuvel is talking facts and reality on Stephanapolous Sunday program “This Week”.
George Will can barely contain his disdain for Katrina’s no bullshit will not back down style. Katrina really gets under his skin.
It has also been oh so apparent that George Will is worried about the radical right (wrong). He is not a fan of the Bush administration or the neo-cons.
Steambomb @ 132
Sorry. Can’t bring myself join you.
I’ve had enuf mickeymouse jokesters in power lately to last a lifetime.
I like what Bill Maher said recently, “Next time I’m voting for someone smart!”
However, I’d add, even “smart” isn’t enuf. “ethical” is dang compelling right about now(!)
I suggest you put your “adverse” vote idea back on the shelf & keep track of FDL’s progress with Blue America candidates instead…
You could help there. Yes. YOU. and ME. & a whole lotta others… just sayin….
any time you need another nudge, consider the havoc nader-voters wrought.
PLEASE don’t go there again!
FishGuyDave @
20
And BACK THEM UP WHEN THEY DO! They have to know beyond a doubt that they will receive our support.
Fresh thread, up for everyone.
Conservative professional tools like folks like Wills,Broder et al are in the business of justifying Republican bad behavior and use the “balance” argument to make their next paychecks. Someone else, with great blog info found on FDL will have to do the heavy lifting to cut the cancer out of this regime. Scarecrow has the most potent post out there. Even the chronic deadhead conservative talking heads can’t stay in denial. I wish I could read this stuff , or hear about it in MSM. Too much money is changing hands for that to happen.
Scarecrow,
Thanks for the post. It gets clearer and clearer that even the tinniest of foil hat theories re this administration is inadequate to explain the lawlessness.
This is staggeringly evil behavior, carefully, brilliantly plotted.
Their problem is that they have no second line to substitute in: there is way too much incompetence to carry out the plan, even with Rove’s careful design work.
Their other problem is that even with the Bushie USAs trying to make the Dems look bad and with the Diebold 3% advantage, the people of the US somehow managed to throw the rascals out. They needed the permanent majority, and they got so greedy, they couldn’t maintain it.
This is a great post. May it be spotlighted near and far.
Puesto @ 136
Saying we want Rove is setting up a straw man argument.
It’s like when bush says the terrorists hate us for our freedoms. They’re now trying to say the Dems hate us for our rove.
Trying to simplify things so we look like dummies.
Unfortunately such tactics often work – with the people who don’t have time for reading and nuance.
That’s why I came up with some simple stories like this one:
Once there was a parent who ran the household like a dictator. Some children had to live in the basement and never come out. No one knew why. And no one dared to ask. Other children, who lived upstairs, were worried – but feared they’d be put in the basement if they complained.
Why didn’t the authorities do anything to rescue the children in the basement? Well, the father was a big bush contributor and had the justice system in his pocket.
At times we too need to boil our ideas down to the least common demonator! Not for the “talkiing deads” but for those who need our help in society – and whose votes we need.
To me, the answer to this question is a no-brainer – AVARICE
This is how every idealistic person raised in the 60’s and 70’s has whored his idealism, raised his ego and fed his self-importance – Avarice! We all like that 4,000 sq foot house, The BMW or Mercedes, etc.
“Oh lord, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz. My friends all drive Porches, I must make amends… Freedom is just another word for nothin’ left to lose..” Journalists have LOTS to lose. Especially if their boss is continually being called onto the carpet for infractions of “liberal media bias.”
“Oh, lord won’t you buy me a color TV…”
selise @ 139
It really boils down to one thing and that is that the constitution is just a “goddamn piece of paper”.
Bush does as he pleases…has done so his entire life.
TheraP at 146 -
The thing which will “get” Our Benighted Emperor in the end – the thing people will pay attention to – is money and greed…
This DOJ scandal, no matter how hard the talking deads keep trying to obfuscate, will eventually turn on the American people’s distaste for moneyed people – greedy people. eg; The defense contractors investigated by Ex-USA Lam.
Some of the greatest shifts in human history have turned on this: Jesus Christ; Mohammed; Napoleon..
There was a Colonel who committed suicide in Iraq, and who worked for Gen. Patreus (sp?). His suicide note spoke of living his entire life concerned about honor, dignity, etc. only to find out this war was all about greed.
The greed in his face from which he could not reconcile himself? Contractors making huge amounts of money sitting next to him playing soldier. And, not playing by the same rules he had deep in his soul. In essence, they laughed at who he was in his soul… laughed all the way to the bank.
John Steinbeck spoke of this in “Winter of our Discontent.” But, the Corporate State of America is not served by having such classics on the reading lists of the next generation.
“Oh, lord won’t you buy me a color TV..” And, so he did. Our Lord and Savior, Messiah Bush has, and is.
is this Congress “wasting” the taxpayer’s time with all this investigating instead of doing the people’s work? well, by two objective measures, the 110th Congress is a little busier than the prior (do-nothin, rubber-stampin, Republican-majority) ones: House Bills introduced thru 3/22/07: 1,588; 109th Congress = 1,450; 108th Congress = 1,410; 107th Congress = 1,204) and in the Senate, 904 bills, vs. 687 in the 109th and 690 in the 108th.
Puesto @ 147
We all have to work against our baser instincts. I agree.
I truly believe that some people want the fame and fortune of being pundits – even on the web.
But there are others, and I suspect you are among them, who truly care about your fellow person. People, like me, spending a birthday morning trying to save the country and the world – on the web – when I could be out at the mall getting myself gifts.
I hope and believe there are many who, yes, have worked hard and are comfortable – but not by robbing others in the process – and want to give of themselves now that they don’t have to scrape by – but know what it felt like to be in that position. And CARE.
Puesto @ 149
In the end, you are probably right. They will have over-reached. And by a kind of judo maneuver placed themselves in the hands of judo experts.
Yes, I think we’re at the tipping point of this administration’s ability to keep playing the shell games.
We’ve found the thread to pull. And with it, we pull down the whole house of cards that’s been threaded on it.
They will fight like the dickens to prevent that. But it’s happening.
But what a price the country has paid in the process!
Isn’t it amazing, they did not think it was wrong to ignore the ‘people’s business’ when they spent all their time on their witch hunt of Bill Clinton! I don’t remember ANYTHING getting done during those years! Hypocrits don’t like it though, when we start looking into their dirty, corrupt acts.
Will and Brooks “can’t see this”? That’s pretty naive, Scarecrow. Broder and Kinsley are different cases, but the former two are thorough hacks.
A couple weeks ago I posted a diatribe here on cancelling my subscription to the Post. This Sunday I needed a print copy and against my better judgment read the “Outlook” section and saw the twin infamies of Broder’s and Will’s column. I wouldn’t worry so much if their reach only extended to the printed word — their readership can only decline, and the market will take care of them there, of which my behavior is evidence. The problem is is that they are still fixtures on tv. This is what we need to work on.
I think the MSM can serve a purpose (resounding *gasp*) As Will & his group of fools (* sighs of relief from my friends, that I have not lost my mind) keep repeating the Neocons’ talking points, the awakening public will realize they were sold a bill of goods. Please keep at it George, Chris, Karl … – if you keep talking, all of America will awake to the bullshit of your self serving ideals. I hope Fitz is not going on vacation until Nov. ‘08, it is going to be a busy time for prosecutors.
Brilliant again!
Here’s an academic definition of this administration:
remember.org link
When it comes to defending the criminal wrong-doing of the Bush administration, few Republicans in Congress circle the wagons better than Texas Senator John Cornyn. With the exploding scandal over the firings of U.S. attorneys threatening the White House, Cornyn has come to the assistance of fellow former Texas Supreme Court justice, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales. How ironic then that the same John Cornyn who defends “the Judge” now was the same man who two years ago excused violence against judges.
For the story, see:
“Cornyn Threatens Judges, Protects Gonzales.”
For the latest news, email archives, hearings, legal filings and other essential documents on the Bush DOJ prosecutor firings, see:
“The U.S. Attorney Scandal Documents.”
Puesto @ 138
Agreed. I don’t want Karl Rove, I wan *no* Karl Rove. What I want is my country back.
{{{{{ looseheadprop }}}}} glad you’re feeling better. Best thig for a nasty cold is to take two FDL posts, you feel better right away. Thank you scarecrow. This rabble here is feeling pretty roused.
cathy @
78
That makes sense if you’re trying to make lots of money. If what you’re trying to do is serve your country, you might be able to pay your journalists a fare wage by running your operation on subscriptions. I know that I would subscribe to this and several other sites, just to support the work they do. And there are so MANY ways now to distribute the information without investing in the big-money equipment. People are hungry for truth and I know that the FDL team and many good citizens are scrambling to provide it.
TheraP @
118
As wise as serpents and as harmless as doves.
Thank you Lindy!
I’ve seen it translated as “cunning” or “wise” on the one hand and “gentle” or “meek” on the other.
It’s like being both vulnerable and very strong at the same time. Requires a lot of discernment and personal growth. But well worth it.
Maybe these qualities should be expected in all leaders. But how to test for it – that’s the problem.
What explains the failure of the mainstream media to cover the purge scandal for so long, and so many other scandals? Do you think somebody just set up newspaper editors to cheat on their wives, and threatened to tell if the editors wouldn’t play ball when they come back some day and ask for something?
It wouldn’t be that hard to do, when you think about it. People wouldn’t talk about it.
As someone noted, George Will’s quote will come as a surprise to anyone who read his stuff circa 92-2000. Not that a double stadards are anything new to Will, but it would be fun to dig out some of his vicious stuff on Clinton and line it up against that quote.
“Members of Congress now face a choice: whether they will waste time and provoke an unnecessary confrontation, or whether they will join us in working to do the people’s business.”
If Bush is so concerned about wasted time someone should point out that can be avoided by his co-operating with the Congress. Prompt and complete supplying requested information and speedy testifying by White House flunkies will lessen time wasted.
Alas, just another diversion from the real issue.
People are dying, Democrats keep grandstanding while cutting Bush a big fat check to continue the war, and you all keep blahblahblahBLAH-ging about pointless things.
You give Rove way too much credit. He’s a nobody. Stop making him a somebody.
RICO statutes. The entire Republican apparatus is vulnerable to prosecution under RICO. It is an organized criminal conspiracy. Think about it.
The remaining Republicans are circling their collective wagons, because they see a disaster of historic proportions on the event horizon.
The future will find their Grand Old Party sporting a sad and eduring footnote of shame, that historians will study then much like those today study The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire.
Super-power, indeed!
Diana @ 166
Sorry, but Rove’s was involved in the very foundation of the cabal that led us to war. If he’s guilty of anything else, it is that his political machinations guaranteed we would “elect” warmongers.
But I suspect his culpability goes much deeper than that. Until he is forced to testify under oath, I can only speculate.
gW @ 164
Garrison Keilor coined the phrase, “The Republicans made their peace with hypocrisy long ago!”
Swan @ 163
Go back to Newt’s contract on America, and research the purchase of big newspapers and other media outlets then, and back a bit further just after Clinto beat Bush Sr.
These editors and publishers aren’t being threatened, THEY ARE THE ONES WHOMAKE THE THREATS!!!
Best example, right off the top, Tony Blankley and Sun M’Yung Moon.
We watched it happed right here in Kansas, a fairly balanced but slightly liberal newspaper editor in a nearby small prairie city (50,000 people) was replaced by a very conservative editor, despite the fact the writers and reporters were quite fair and balanced,in the real sense of the cliche’.
This was a well-orchestrated plan to take control of the media, and Clinton’s impeachment debacle was the first fruits of this industry-wide buy-out. If not for the blogs, and a few hardy, heartfelt souls like Molly Ivins, I can not imagine where we would be today…
i may be late to this party,
but it seems that gonzo’s senior
counselor, one monica goodling, has
informed senator leahy’s staff this
afternoon that she will take the 5th
when questioned by the senate judiciary
committee at hearings this thursday.
this is significant on several fronts:
d. kyle sampson, the AG’s former chief
of staff, has indicated that he will
speak, under oath, to the committee
about various matters related to purge-gate. . .
we now know that mr. sampson will likely say,
under oath, that he did not mislead mr. gonzales.
tantalizingly, he may say quite a bit more.
so, we now know that the other putative “fall-
person” for mr. gonzales, ms. goodling, will not go
quietly. her invocation of the fifth will likely
simply be a precursor to an agreement under which
she will ultimately testify, in return for immunity.
it is an unusual sign — and not an encourag-
ing one — for the target, at least, when
one of the target’s lawyers — his senior
lawyer, in this case — decides to invoke
a fifth amendment privilege against self-
incriminantion.
i write this because it suggests, to me, that
the target, here mr. gonzales, is going to have
quite a bit of difficulty asserting that he
simply followed good faith legal advice he
sought and received from his staff, related
to the dismissal of the eight u.s. attorneys.
we already know that various public documents
contradict mr. gonzales’ earlier claim that he
“wasn’t very involved” in the decision to
ask for the resignations of these eight u.s. attorneys.
all of this is shaping up very badly for mr.
gonzales — but is quite predictably — almost
uncannily — providing much “noisy cover” and
precious time-delays, for messrs. rove and cheney.
more here.