
(Photo credit Bill Cunningham/The New York Times)
The saddest moment of the Scooter Libby trial, for me, was when I witnessed an exchange between Max Frankel, the last Executive Editor of the NYT to treat the gray lady with the respect she once deserved, and Robert Bennett, Judy Miller's personal lawyer. Frankel had been around, on and off, for a several days, working on a story for the NYT Magazine on the role of journalists in the case. Bennett had just finished shepherding Judy through a grueling day of Jeffress' attacks. And, at one point that day, Bennett actually stood before the court to defend Fitzgerald's attempts to limit Jeffress' questions.
Let me remind you why Bennett was even there. Judy had originally been represented by the NYT's chosen lawyer, Floyd Abrams. Abrams has had a laudable career defending the First Amendment. And in this case (at one point representing both Matt Cooper and Judy Miller), Abrams argued for an absolute reporter's privilege that does not really exist in legal precedent. He--and the NYT--chose this case, the defense of Judy Miller, to stage a battle over the sanctity of the reporter's privilege that exists (at the Federal level at least) primarily in custom, not in law. But at some point, Judy realized the First Amendment martyr role no longer served her purposes, so she hired the more pragmatic Robert Bennett to represent her interests, now distinct from those of the NYT.
Anyway, on this particular day, there in the hallway of Prettyman Courthouse, Frankel, the former Executive Editor of a then-great newspaper said this to Bennett, the lawyer who had been hired by the former reporter for the no-longer-great newspaper because the interests of the paper and the former reporter had diverged.
You did a great job for us today.
How could Max Frankel, I wondered, yoke the interests of the NYT and Judy Miller so closely? Why would he so unquestionably consider Judy Miller--a reporter the NYT had finally jettisoned when her complicit role in this story became clear--to still be a member of that club? The comment made me so sad, that a once-great figure like Frankel would tie his interests so closely to Judy's.
And so it was with great interest and a good deal of trepidation that I read Frankel's story today--the end product of his time at Prettyman Courthouse.
It's a story drawing on Frankel's entire career, salted with anecdotes of powerful men leaking important information to Frankel--JFK, LBJ, Dean Rusk--and drawing on a key brief Frankel wrote about the Pentagon Papers. With the quality of his prose and the mostly nuanced understanding of the complexities of the case, Frankel demonstrates how he earned his reputation, with real reporting. As with this passage, where Frankel sums up the Armitage-Woodward leak perfectly.
That’s how it’s done, in barroom style: an official playing bureaucratic tennis, protecting his boss, Secretary of State Colin Powell; a reporter preying on the knowingness of his source.
Sure, he gets two details slightly wrong (slightly mis-representing the INR memo and not reporting the dispute between Woodward and Pincus over whether the former told the latter of Plame's CIA employ). And, as I'll show, he grossly misrepresents Judy's testimony. But compared to what the NYT offers up as journalism these days, the story offered a remarkably good narrative of the trial.
Yet the argument Frankel offers, like all other arguments the NYT has offered in this case, is fundamentally dishonest. Frankel has, indeed, finally yoked the fate and interests of the NYT to the complicit involvement of Judy Miller.
Let me start by agreeing with Frankel. The damage to journalism--by this whole sordid affair--has been great.
The damage to newsgathering, I believe, has been significant. Celebrity journalists like Bob Woodward and Tim Russert may not lose access to sources, but more vulnerable reporters and less-wealthy media outlets will surrender to the subpoenas and jail threats now descending on them in unprecedented numbers. Some will betray confidences; some will suppress articles whose defense would be costly. Others may avoid risky reporting altogether. Sensing danger, many investigative reporters have become highly circumspect, using what one judge sympathetically called the methods of drug dealers to protect themselves: resorting to disposable cellphones, meeting sources outdoors and avoiding e-mail and other computer communication.
But I would be very particular about the source of that damage. It was not just--perhaps not even primarily--Fitzgerald's subpoena of journalists that did that damage. The damage was done when Robert Novak and Judy Miller and the NYT made themselves willing vehicles of Administration propaganda. The damage was done when the NYT--after publishing the name of Judy's source--tried to make a SCOTUS case arguing no one should reveal that source. The damage was not done by the WaPo, which deemed this case a real instance of criminal investigation and proceeded in the way that would do the least damage to custom of reporter's privilege. It was done by the NYT launching a dishonest appeal that--they knew--served to assist someone in the obstruction of justice.
So I guess I'll start there, with a funny detail about Frankel's article. As I said, Frankel seems to have an unusually good understanding about some nuances of this case. He realizes that Libby was the probable source of Ari's depiction of the word "boondoggle." He blames Cheney as Rove's source of Plame's CIA employ. Frankel knows that OVP was at the heart of this leak, and he defends that case using evidence introduced at trial. He even argues that Libby and Cheney,
surely also recognized the legal risk in exposing Valerie Plame’s covert status — that the Intelligence Identities Protection Act prohibits anyone with authorized access to knowledge of a covert agent to intentionally disclose the agent’s identity to persons not so authorized.
In short, though he explains that the "offense was never established," Frankel makes a case that Libby and Cheney would in fact be guilty of the IIPA, complete with foreknowledge, if they leaked Plame's identity to a journalist.
But when Frankel characterizes the crimes Libby committed, he almost never discusses obstruction of justice. Sure, he admits once that Libby "lied and obstructed to protect the misuse of secrets." But he repeatedly names perjury as the crime at issue, arguing "perjury substitut[ed] for an unreachable, perhaps even nonexistent crime," describing reporters protecting Libby's perjury, and suggesting that Fitzgerald pursued journalists' testimony so he "would at least have a perjury case." And here's how he describes the lies in question:
In fact, Libby told the F.B.I. and the grand jury that he learned about Wilson’s wife — as if for the first time — from Tim Russert on July 10 or 11. He insisted that he had totally forgotten discussing her during the preceding month with Cheney and with officials from State and the C.I.A. Libby’s recollection of how he was “taken aback” by Russert’s revelation stood at the heart of his indictment, and his meandering re-enactment of his talk with Russert would clinch the case for the jury.
The other, subsidiary counts charged that Libby lied by denying knowledge of Wilson’s wife before the Russert conversation.
This is how Frankel portrays this trial as one about lying--by mistakenly focusing on the veracity of Libby's Russert story rather than Libby's knowledge of Plame. Yet in spite of Frankel's claims, Libby's knowledge of Wilson's wife is in no way subsidiary. It is the crux of the issue, the basis of the obstruction. By lying about whether he knew of Plame's identity on July 8, Libby hid the conversations in which he leaked Plame's identity to Judy Miller. Yet Frankel portrays this crime to be about nothing more than perjury, not a deliberate and successful attempt to prevent Fitzgerald from proving the underlying crime.
Which is why it's so funny--or pathetic, really--how Frankel refers to Judy's involvement. First, let's look at how he describes the Iraq War.
That misfired adventure, and the buyer’s remorse of a press and public that accepted the war’s pretext, lay at the root of Libby’s perjury. For it was Cheney, with Libby’s active help, who had sounded the loudest alarms about Hussein’s “reconstituted” nuclear program, about his stores of chemical and biological weapons and supposed ties to Al Qaeda. When, mere weeks into the war in 2003, no such weapons could be found, it was Cheney and Libby whose reputations and influence were imperiled as much as the president’s.
Remarkable, huh? 3000 American men and women dead, and it's just a little "misfired adventure"? And see what he does with the subjects of this paragraph? There the "press and public" are, with their buyer's remorse, positioned together on one side, with Libby and Cheney, the guilty parties, on the other side. Frankel conveniently lumps the press in with the public, unwilling dupes, but in no way actors that worked with and for Libby and Cheney to sell this war to the American public. What a fundamental misrepresentation of the press' role in this war! Of how the majority of the population opposed the war, wanted nothing to do with it, until people like Judy Miller and Michael Gordon and Patrick Tyler came along and persuaded the public that this was something they ought to buy. Frankel does, at one point, admit that Judy's pre-war reporting lent "credence to the administration’s wild alarms about Iraqi W.M.D.’s" (he makes no mention of her war reporting). But he separates that from any question of complicity on the part of the press--or the NYT in particular. In fact, in a later discussion, Frankel claims that these poor journalists (and editors) were helpless until someone else came along and offered them a leak to counter those of the Administration.
On the path to war in Iraq, high officials of the Bush administration leaked classified but far from reliable information about W.M.D.’s, then pointed to its publication as “evidence” of its truth. When no W.M.D.’s were found, they used the same flawed secrets to justify their misrepresentations. But reporters could not expose this skullduggery until they obtained contradictory leaks from disheartened intelligence officials.
As if anyone couldn't figure out, from simply reading closely, the stuff that the NYT was reporting was--and remains--plain old propaganda. As if the editors of the NYT don't bear any blame for printing such crap on the front page of the NYT.
Having thus absolved the NYT from exercising the most basic critical reading skills, here's how Frankel portrays Judy's involvement in the case and her testimony at the trial:
On Tuesday, July 8, in what his normally detailed calendar listed only as a “private meeting,” Libby spent two hours at breakfast with Judith Miller to enlist her help in countering Wilson’s attack. He told the grand jury that he admired her reporting, on Al Qaeda and chemical and biological weapons, and presumably also her prewar articles lending credence to the administration’s wild alarms about Iraqi W.M.D.’s — credulous articles that The Times eventually disowned.
Miller testified that Libby brought her selected excerpts from a top-secret National Intelligence Estimate (N.I.E.) to buttress his claim that long after Wilson’s mission, the C.I.A. still endorsed reports that Saddam Hussein had “vigorously” pursued uranium in Africa. This brought back memories of my own similar encounters — of President Kennedy allowing me to copy a secret transcript to prove how the Russians lied to him about missiles in Cuba; of Secretary of State Dean Rusk confiding that the Southeast Asia Treaty, later invoked in support of war in Vietnam, was “not worth the paper it’s written on”; of Henry Kissinger casually bemoaning the anti-Semitism he experienced “in the highest places.” The established Washington routine meant that such revelations could be reported, provided that they were attributed only to “senior administration officials.” But on the subject of Joe Wilson and his wife, Miller’s notes showed, Libby took the added precaution of asking to be identified as “a former Hill staffer.” Though technically true, this was a devious dodge even by Washington’s tortuous rules of engagement, and it should have led Miller to realize that the remedy for bad leaks is more leaks.
Miller said that she had gone to breakfast eager to learn why the intelligence reports she had swallowed had been so wrong but that she found Libby too much concerned with the 16 Words, with “who said what to whom, what I call inside baseball in Washington.” The editor in me cringed at this justification for her not writing anything out of this interview. She could have been the first to recognize that the White House’s denigration of the Wilsons betrayed a bitter feud during which Cheney was angrily pressuring Tenet to take sole responsibility for the bungled intelligence. By following the trail of Libby’s leak back to C.I.A. informants, she could have produced a pretty good yarn.
Now let me remind you--on the general scope of the trial, Frankel did a reasonably good job. In particular, he did a meticulous job with Ari's testimony, noting the content and the secrecy of Libby's conversation with Ari, and claiming that "the sharpest contradiction [to Libby's grand jury testimony] was delivered by Ari Fleischer." How then--besides willful misrepresentation--should we understand his portrayal of Judy's testimony? Had you not followed the liveblog, you'd have thought Judy testified first and foremost about the purported NIE leak, which by my count constituted less than ten minutes out of about six hours of testimony and related arguments (and the liveblog, at least, does not support the assertion that "Libby brought her selected excerpts from a top-secret National Intelligence Estimate"). As to Plame? "But on the subject of Wilson and his wife." What!?!?! What, Max, what about the subject of Wilson and his wife?!?!?
In 7800 words, Frankel never once brings himself to admit that Judy testified that, on two occasions, Libby leaked Valerie Wilson's identity to her.
[Note, too, that Frankel falsely implies that Judy testified that she didn't write an article about Plame because it was too inside-baseball, rather than because Jill Abramson told her no.]
And this is precisely the problem. The detail that Libby twice leaked Plame's identity to Judy is just as contradictory as Ari's testimony, and a hell of a lot more incriminating. Indeed, it is the crime the investigation of which Libby obstructed when he claimed to have learned of Plame's identity on July 10 from Tim Russert. Max Frankel wants to describe this as a trial about perjury--a lie about a conversation with Russert--when in fact the trial is about Scooter Libby, with the help of the NYT, hiding the fact that Libby leaked Valerie Wilson's identity to Judy Miller. If Libby did it with the foreknowledge and deliberation Frankel describes, then it was a criminal leak, precisely the thing Patrick Fitzgerald subpoenaed the journalists to find out.
And so the great reporter and last good Executive Editor joins in the NYT's obstruction, its willingness to shill for the Administration, to misrepresent the Administration's crimes. in so doing, he repeats the mistake the NYT made in the first place, when they argued that no one should reveal Libby's name even while they had already revealed it themselves. Frankel uses a cry for press freedom to cover up the NYT's complicity in this case.
You see, Max, it's not that we liberals have lost patience for reporters privilege. And our eagerness to have Judy testify came not just from a desire to see Cheney and Libby exposed.
Liberals were so eager to see Cheney and Libby exposed that they lost patience for reporters’ claims of privilege.
Rather, it comes from a desire to see you exposed. It is time that the NYT stops pretending that it stands on the side of the public, as passive unwilling dupes of this Administration. It is time that the NYT stops laughing off the role of Miller and Gordon and Tyler and Raines and Keller and now Frankel in bringing this country to war on a pack of lies. It is time the NYT stops claiming these were leaks, rather than willful cooperation in the publication of propaganda.
And so, Max Frankel piles propaganda on top of propaganda, arguing the NYT's tired plea they were wronged in this case.
It may sound cynical to conclude that tolerating abusive leaks by government is the price that society has to pay for the benefit of receiving essential leaks about government. But that awkward condition has long served to protect the most vital secrets while dislodging the many the public deserves to know.
As Justice Potter Stewart wrote after studying the unending contest between the government and the press during the cold war:
So far as the Constitution goes ... the press is free to do battle against secrecy and deception in government. But the press cannot expect from the Constitution any guarantee that it will succeed. ... The Constitution itself is neither a Freedom of Information Act nor an Official Secrets Act. The Constitution, in other words, establishes the contest, not its resolution. ... For the rest, we must rely, as so often in our system we must, on the tug and pull of the political forces in American society.
In loose translation: Prosecutors of the realm, let this back-alley market flourish. Attorneys general and others armed with subpoena power, please leave well enough alone. Back off. Butt out.
No, Mr. Frankel. It's not a matter of tolerating abusive leaks. It's a matter of not tolerating shitty journalism and irresponsible editing. And the day you yoked your fate to Judy Miller's, you endorsed all that shitty journalism and irresponsible editing. Certainly, the day you write a 7800-word article that willfully hides the fact that Scooter Libby intended to launder a deliberate leak of Plame's identity through Judy Miller and the NYT, you lose your right to lecture us about reporters privilege and the public's interests in leaks.
Clean up your own house, first, before you start telling us about what is or is not in our best interest.
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Fitz!
Thank you, again and again, ew.
emptywheel smackdown !~
The Times, through Frankel, is still trying to absolve both themselves and Judy Miller for their complicity in the run-up to war. She has in fact down as much or more damage to the reputation of the NYT than the plagiarist Jayson Blair. Even though they’ve cut her loose, they still cannot admit the harm she did to their reputation and to the US. Of course, they were usually behind the curve on Watergate, although they did do the Pentagon Papers.
Frankel also forgets, that a leaked lie or a leak that is not for information but retribution should never be protected. I would think a journalist, with a strong ethical and moral base, would understand the difference. And if the journalist outs a “source” who has leaked for the reasons that Libby leaked, I would think that the only persons truly upset would be the source who gets caught in the lie.
My $.02
It’s all about the aspens, and their roots.
Marcy, you’ve been working hard I see. I’ll watch G-Town and UNC go at it in OT and then get to your post. You always deliver the goods!
Neil @ 6
Geez, this didn’t look so long until I published it.
The short version is: Frankel tells the “whole story” of the trial without ever mentioning that Judy testified that Libby leaked Plame’s identity to her.
Hit’em again!
Harder!
Harder!
That was a high school cheer I remember, but I don’t remember the sport. Football?
What people aren’t talking about here is the ethics balance: rights v. responsibilities. EW, you did a great job in shining some light into dark corners, but that is the point at which analysis should occur.
What are the explicit responsibilities of the press?
The press is stating axiomatically that they have rights, but they are not willing to own up to any responsibilities. Right now, they seem to think that they are only responsible for keeping their mouths shut and looking the other way when something happens which could cut off their access to leakers.
There should be a code of ethics for reporters that starts off: “First, repeat no bullshit”
This is the essence, the core, the nugget and you have exposed them and left them twisting in the web of their own deceit and complicity.
Thank you emptywheel, from the bottom of my heart.
Dan Robinson @ 8
It’s a great way of putting it. That’s what’s going on–the press demanding they retain their rights, while not meeting the bare minimum of their responsibilities.
Disappointing from Frankel, one of the true journalistic heroes of the Nixon era.
litigatormom @ 11
It was a sad day in the courthouse, and it’s a sad day today.
Empty wheel,
Spot on. Journalism at MSM wants to have it both ways. Strong writing. I too am sick of the self-serving crap offered up by Judy Miller etal
gonna tell a story Marcy that’s not comfortable for me to tell
when I was growing up, my dad was clearly the most inteligent man in my neighborhood, in all aspects, technical knowledge, book knowledge, practical knowledge
now this isn’t just a boys fond memory, it is absolutely true…my friends, aquantances, and everyone that knew my dad would all say my dad was the go to guy
I’d give anecdotes but that would take too long
anyway, my dad is living with me now and he is still a capable man, runs his own bussiness and conducts his affairs without any help what so ever from me
however, and this is tough to say, his intelectual skills are not what they once were…where once he had reasoned response now he has knee jerk reactions, where once he examined all points of view now he goes on gut feeling
basically does not reason things through the way he once did
Frankel is growing old Marcy, he is not the man he once was, he cannot “connect the dots” the way he once did, he has knee jerk reactions instead of reasoned response
we all grow old
exactly right…. and beautifully written, emptywheel.
i so hope that max frankel reads this.
Booyah!
Thanks perris.
Glad you have perspective on it and also glad you can remember him in his prime.
Wonderful, as always. I’m so glad you can cut through the dreck these people put out!
perris @ 14 -
great insight. thank you.
Another exacting and detailed analysis, ew! And it should also be pointed out that the judges that ruled unanimously in favor of Fitz and against the views of the NYT, Newsweek, Cooper, Miller, ad nauseum (including a reprehensible amicus brief by Toensing)…NEVER deneied that reporters have A CONFIDENTIALITY PRIVILEGE. What the ruled was that in cases where the reporter acts to conceal a crime, and in fact, becomes a participant in that criminal act (such as a leak of National Security information) then the confidentiality must be met with an assessment of the BENEFIT that might accrue to public dialogue.
Fitz affirmed to the judges that Plame was a covert agent and that exposing her was likely to pose grave harm to her covert operations and networks. We now know from the CIA Director that this was precisely true.
Libby was no “whistleblower” exposing government corruption, rather he was himself (like Rove and Armitage) ONE OF THOSE that were corrupt…and using the media to attack their victims and sheilding themselves from responsibility by the presumption that their actions would be shrouded by a complicit Press that had previously played the propaganda game.
Wha’ts sad is this is what’s it’s like in just about every newsroom in America. Pandering to the government, to advertisers, to anyone who needs to stop the truth so they can continue to feather their own beds.
It’s why I got out back in 1999.
perris @ 14
Perhaps you’re right, perris.
It was that “you did a great job for us today” that really bugged me. Allegiance to the dying rag, rather than to the institution of journalism that he once served so well. allegiance to Judy over the truth.
Editors are never as concerned about the truth as they are about keeping advertisers happy. That’s the 800 pound gorilla.
From emptywheel’s ANATOMY OF DECEIT, page 84, Chapter 5: “Beat the Press”:
For anyone who has not bought it yet, it is just overflowing with unbelieveably clear, economical gems such as the above.
perris @ 14
Glad your dad is still keeping his business together, perris. As for Frankel’s mental capabilities at 76, his 2004 book, High Noon in the Cold War, showed little evidence of diminution of capability. And we have Noam Chomsky, Howard Zinn, Studs Terkel as examples of people either his age or older doing just fine, being able to connect dots quicker than writers a quarter their age.
Then again, maybe there’s something in the water coolers at the Times Building…
John Casper @ 24
John, do you have an OCR program, or was that long excerpt a labor of love?
Great essay, Marcy! I’ll join the others in wishing Max a happy read of your article here. Don’t be sad, though. He might bounce back when the Times dies and he’s still here.
Max Frankel wrote a highly cynical review of Wesley Clark’s ‘Winning Modern Wars’ in Oct. 2003. Read this excerpt and tell me if you think Frankel isn’t firmly in the neocon camp with Miller and Gordon:
Frankel may have been a good editor once but he sounds like somebody who used to walk 5 miles to school uphill both ways in this piece. And he misses the clear point that deep background gossip from US officials regarding spying on the Soviets is not the same as outing an American spy. That’s a basic point that Frankel fails to grasp.
Things are different now. Giant publications like the NYT, are corporations. With vested ‘responsibilites’, and interests. It was not always thus.
From the US Court of Appeals decision on the Cooper, Miller appeal.
“Indeed, Cooper’s own Time.com article illustrates this
point. True, his story revealed a suspicious confluence of leaks,
contributing to the outcry that led to this investigation. Yet the
article had that effect precisely because the leaked information —Plame’s covert status—lacked significant news value. In essence, seeking protection for sources whose nefariousness he himself exposed, Cooper asks us to protect criminal leaks so that he can write about the crime. The greater public interest lies in preventing the leak to begin with.
Had Cooper based his report on leaks about the leaks—say, from a whistleblower who revealed the plot against Wilson—the situation would be different. Because in that case the source would not have revealed the name of a covert agent, but instead revealed the fact that others had done so, the balance of news value and harm would shift in favor of protecting the whistleblower. Yet it appears Cooper relied on the Plame leaks
themselves, drawing the inference of sinister motive on his own.
Accordingly, his story itself makes the case for punishing the leakers. While requiring Cooper to testify may discourage future leaks, discouraging leaks of this kind is precisely what the public interest requires.
IV.
I conclude, as I began, with the tensions at work in this case. Here, two reporters and a news magazine, informants to the public, seek to keep a grand jury uninformed. Representing two equally fundamental principles—rule of law and free speech—the special counsel and the reporters both aim to facilitate fully informed and accurate decision-making by those they serve: the grand jury and the electorate.
To this court falls the task of balancing the two sides’ concerns. As James Madison explained, “[A] people who mean to be their own Governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives.” (D.C. Cir. 1998) (quoting Letter from James Madison to W.T.
Barry (Aug. 4, 1822), in 9 The Writings of James Madison 103
(Gaillard Hunt ed., 1910)). Consistent with that maxim, “[a] free press is indispensable to the workings of our democratic society,” Associated Press v. United States, 326 U.S. 1, 28 (1945) (Frankfurter, J., concurring), and because confidential sources are essential to the workings of the press—a practical reality that virtually all states and the federal government now acknowledge—I believe that “reason and experience” compel recognition of a privilege for reporters’ sources. That said, because “[l]iberty can only be exercised in a system of law
which safeguards order,” Cox v. Louisiana, 379 U.S. 559, 574
(1965), the privilege must give way to imperatives of law
enforcement in exceptional cases.
Were the leak at issue in this case less harmful to national security or more vital to public debate, or had the special counsel failed to demonstrate the grand jury’s need for the reporters’ evidence, I might have supported the motion to quash. Because identifying appellants’ sources instead appears essential to remedying a serious breach of public trust, I join in affirming the district court’s orders compelling their testimony.”
You are very kind ET. No OCR here, but I prefer to think of it as part of an everlasting debt that I owe to Jane, emptywheel and commenters at FDL and TNH.
Precisely. Max Frankel is lower than pond scum.
Let us not mourn the loss of the antiquated newspaper but celebrate the birth of the new form of media, the blogosphere. Screw those newspaper guys, they’re history.
Everyone involved or even remotely associated with the parties that caused the ruination of Valerie Plame’s career and the destruction of our own spy network, will try to beat that no underlying crime drum until they think we have all been rendered deaf. Only then will they be able to convince themselves that they were not complicit in this tragedy. Self righteousness is the father of self denial.
1,466 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ONA ND AN..
Citizen emptywheel and the Firepup Patriots:
First off, I bought yer book and read it on a 4 1/2 hour flight to Jamaica (”YA MAAAN!!”)…you are another of our emerging heroes of democracy.
The brilliance of this post is that it not only deconstructs the clever misrepresentations of Traitorgate and the trial thereof…but you disrobe the journalist as client to corporate power right here in public. Anyone who doesn’t now understand that the crisis of our democracy is not just with a corrupt administration but a final battle to the death with the corporate oligarchy, doesn’t understand the English language as you use it. Thanks, kid!!
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION…ALL THEY GOT IS THE MONEY!!
The NCAA tourney cut into 60 minutes or at least delayed it. Anyone else watching Katie make a total ass of herself with John and Elizabeth Edwards?
Watching Elizabeth and John Edwards on Sixty Minutes, I think they are doing a fantastic job of explaining themselves and the choices they have made in response to Elizabeth’s cancer. These are good people, and when they speak, it makes their critics look both horribly cynical and extremely foolish.
NorskeFlamethrower @ 34
;0)
RevDeb @ 35
Couric was obviously out of her depth.
RevDeb @ 34:
I sure am. Was there any “some people might think” example she didn’t throw out? Edwards was right when he said that voters had every right to ask the hard questions. And good old Katie made sure to tell them all what to ask.
OT, but I need to vent. I was reading an article on the war today and, completely in passing, it mentioned Bush’s 2004 ‘mandate’ to conduct the business of country in any way he saw fit.
How come a 50.1% ‘victory’ in 2004 counts as a complete and clear ‘mandate’ for Bush, yet a 51-seat Senate and 218(?)-seat House victory in 2006 results in the Democrats clearly misinterpreting their election wins as a mandate for their ideas and ideals?
Pissed and grumpy, and now returning you to your regularly scheduled chat ….
/vent
RevDeb @ 35
I particularly enjoyed the use over and over again of ’some would say’…
wini @ 42
talk about concern troll, she gets the award. I can see why her news cast is a flop.
Some would say that Katie Couric should stick to “easier” topics…
Thank you so much for laying out this case against Frankel. I read the whole article early this morning when it appeared and I became concerned that he was covering the NYT’s vulnerabilities.
When he listed the Armitage/Woodward taped conversation, he conveniently left out lines without ever noting that his statement was an edited version.
I had written a post concerning Everybody knows here in Valtin’s diary on dkos and those happened to be some of the lines Frankel omitted. So, from that point, I was suspicious of his motives. In a sense, he both whitewashed Armitage, yet revealed the cold precision of his act.
This revelation to Woodward was before the plane trip, so the number of people who knew was limitied. So, who were those people, the ones Armitage refers to as ‘everybody.’ State and Bolten’s shop? OVP? POTUS? CIA? NSA? Obviously Woodward translated that statement in some manner. Who did Woodward think Armitage was referring to?
The transcipt is here (note, short pdf).
In other words, I’m noting that Frankel went out of his way to show a point of his knowledge about such transactions but, in fact, threw a little sand on the actual transaction. He didn’t penetrate, he explained away.
Thanks again, ew, for you wonderful insight and detailed analysis.
WOW!
Beautiful post, Marcy.
NYT like most press operations, thinks it is now pronounced freedom to repress.
I will read free links from time to time but not one more dime will fall into the coin slot of a NYT machine.
What upsets me is how many times I hear senators and congressmen cite articles from the Times and the Post as if it is scripture. No wonder this country is in decline. Thousands of diligent firedogs can hardly keep up with their streaming
diarrhealies.Brilliant insight; awesome post. I’m keeping my day job.
perris 14
when I was growing up, my dad was clearly the most inteligent man in my neighborhood, in all aspects, technical knowledge, book knowledge, practical knowledge
now this isn’t just a boys fond memory, it is absolutely true…my friends, aquantances, and everyone that knew my dad would all say my dad was the go to guy
I’d give anecdotes but that would take too long
anyway, my dad is living with me now and he is still a capable man, runs his own bussiness and conducts his affairs without any help what so ever from me
however, and this is tough to say, his intelectual skills are not what they once were…where once he had reasoned response now he has knee jerk reactions, where once he examined all points of view now he goes on gut feeling
basically does not reason things through the way he once did
Frankel is growing old Marcy, he is not the man he once was, he cannot “connect the dots” the way he once did, he has knee jerk reactions instead of reasoned response
we all grow old
take him for a ride in your new sportscar, perris……….
let him play your les paul……..
his responses may be limited, but listen to what he’s sayin’……..it’s an edited version…….my parents say less, but they’re sayin’ more…..
joejoejoe @ 25
Thanks for pointing that out, joejoejoe. I hadn’t seen that.
Powerful post, emptywheel.
Sounds like Max Frankel needs a copy of your Anatomy of Deceit. One wonders whether Frankel would have been less effusive with his praise to Judy’s lawyer and more introspective in his op ed about the NY Times’ role in this mess had he read your book.
I hope the answer is ‘yes,’ but your post makes me think otherwise.
and john casper
left you a few ’sports’ responses back in the last thread……starting at 84 or 89 or 97 or something……..
Well spoken, emptywheel.
Is there hope that Max Frankel is an old dinosaur who just won’t get it, but there’s a younger generation coming up in journalism who will? Maybe the old guard will stay on the defensive and refuse to acknowledge that some of them were complicit in spreading the Administration’s propaganda; but could there be others among them who see can see that, and will try to change the way things work?
Shame on Mr. Frankel. It’s a sad day in journalism when a slip of a woman like Marcy has to take them to ethics school. But that’s what it has come to, and there are few who can do it more authoritatively. Excellent job Ms. Wheeler. Keep letting them know what the truth looks like, in the meantime let’s hope they burn with embarrasment at having been called out for their inaccuracies once again.
pdaly @ 48
I don’t think he was one of the journalists who got handed a copy. There are clearly two or three copies circulating around the NYT. But I doubt he’s got one.
Couric has depth??????????
Thank you as well! I’m halfway through your book and I’m so impressed. Everybody should get a copy and read it.
perris 14 is probably correct…
the platitudes and comparisons :{
Sounds like Mr. Frankel has zero remorse about the war.
Perhaps he, in fact, supported it as did so many others.
(I vaguely remember some brouhaha from Dershowitz re him and the Mearsheimer & Walt article.)
Buckeye Hamburger @ 52
The value system in American journalism has fundamentally changed; “traditional media,” in its magnitude and corporatism, has become an enabling institution for the powerful. Those in the next generation who ascend to its pinnacle will have absorbed the sickening values of their corporate elders. It is unlikely they will have a change of heart with regard to the enterprise’s mission once in charge. Nor will young’uns who challenge the current warped value system be rewarded by its practitioners.
They will be rewarded in the blogosphere, though — with readers, recognition, and the adoration of poodles.
Present at the creation of a new media paradigm, etc.
Emptywheel,
I had the same reaction when I read the Frankel piece: brilliant writing, up to a point, and the whole time, I was waiting for the NYT’s “zinger” which would bring the whole edifice down, and so he did, as you pointed out, at the end. It was just another betrayal from a newspaper which used to be a necessity in an intelligent life.
Here’s my candidate for money quote: “. . . Frankel [later] claims that these poor journalists (and editors) were helpless until someone else came along and offered them a leak to counter those of the Administration.”
Yeah, that journamalism stuff is only he said-she said stenography, isn’t it? The Grey Lady will only print something it’s been fed by someone, not something its own reporters might actually know or have figured out– no independent actors there! But as joejoejoe @ 27 points out, the whiff is pretty neocon and maybe that drives the journalistic practices more than anything else.
On the subject of outing Plame, has anyone taken up the thought that it might have been done deliberately in order to blow up the CIA’s Iranian nuclear-proliferation team? That way, Cheney and his fantasists would be the only source of “information” on what Iran was supposedly doing, assuming the CIA people were telling them there was nothing there.
At the time, remember, Iraq was going to be a cakewalk and as they said at the time, “real men go to Teheran.” It was all supposed to be wham-bam, one then the other then paradise, “regime change” as far as the eye could see.
For my money, this would explain much better all the stress on Wilson getting this gig from his wife, and it also better explains why Libby thinks he’s such a hero for keeping quiet.
Just a thought–
dmac @ 52
hey dmac,
i think you’re pretty cool, i’ve missed you.
The large question for me is what is the common thread, if any, between the MSM and the Republican Party? Or more specifically, between much of the media and the conservatives. What does each derive from the relationship? Is it money, power, or ideology. Or perhaps some of each?
I’ve had the honor of chatting with a fair number of WWII veterans. My impression is that they tend to not want to believe that those at the highest levels of the government could be as deliberately unlawful as the Bushies clearly are. Just my opinion.
emptywheel,
You may have missed a comment of mine from several weeks ago. Your book is in circulation at the Boston Public Library.
Are search headings for a book a task of the publisher or the individual library?
If you use Keyword(s) anywhere search and use the search terms “spy” and “Iraq” AoD jumps to the top of the results list
Unfortunately, terms like “Libby trial” do not.
Similarly “Judy” “Miller” does NOT bring up Anatomy of Deceit but rather “Babe, Pig in the City” for some reason. Searching “Judith” Miller finds 20th Century Glass.
What the NYT has become is the what Katie Couric has always been as a journalist Network Hack. I was soooo pissed at the Edwards interview I was screaming at my tv. “Some would say” should be banned from any reporter’s mouth from this point forward. Maddening nightmare of disrespect for what 60 Minutes and CBS used to be. Murrow is spinning in his grave.
I just jumped on to see if anyone had seen the Couric “interview”… I saw the last 5 minutes or so and I was so outraged at how Couric repeatedly shot down any optimistic or hopeful explanations from the Edwards.
Here is my letter to fucking CBS 60m@cbsnews.com … I am so mad:
I am outraged and disgusted at the tone of Couric’s “interview” with John and Elizabeth Edwards… it might better be termed a drubbing.
Rather than use the time as an opportunity for them to explain their thought process and Elizabeth’s reasons for deciding to live life on her terms, Couric’s insipid interrogation was offensive.
Her slow and deliberate accusatory tone as she was lampooning their decision on every turn was unbelievable. She implied over and over, “How dare they pursue their dream in the face of disease?”
Who the fuck is she to tell someone how to live their lives? Or, the worst part from my perspective, to tell the Edwards’ what Americans think of their decision. Couric does not speak for me.
I admire them for pressing on and not giving in to the disease…. when Elizabeth was given a little time near the end of the interview to express her reasons, Couric cut her off at every turn, never engaging Elizabeth in a fruitful discussion, but rather spouting every pessimistic innuendo about why they shouldn’t pursue their dream.
Disgusting… I will never watch the idiot Couric again. If this was her attempt at “hard-hitting” journalism, it was woefully misplaced and in very poor taste.
I wish she and her deceased husband Jay had been drubbed the same way when he faced terminal illness. As I recall, she continued working full-time.
CC
Santa Fe NM
1)one source
2)with a bias, the bushies WERE pushing for war, but links to Al Queida were doubtful, and we later learned the links to WMD were made up by Scooter/cheney
3)Judy never checks her facts Scooter played her
4)Why protect a source who lied to you? It’s not like the source was mistaken or used Scooter knew Judy was his fool.
5) No Responsiblity. No Acknowledgement from Judy or the NY Times that Judy’s WMD stories were lies and that her Pulitzer should be returned (if she did that it would embarass bush and help restore Judy’s/the NYT’s reputation, but they won’t)
Oklahoma kiddo @ 62
i can’t remember where i read it, but seems to me i saw somewhere that some of the owners of the msm are the same entities that create our weapons. wish i had the specifics. i’ll see what i can learn.
Oklahoma kiddo @
62
My sister is retired from the newspaper business (do NOT ask which one, PLEASE). But through all of her years as a writer/reporter/editor there was one truth: no matter if an individual reporter or editor may have been liberal in views, most of the managing editors and even more of the publishers were conservative Republicans. He who has the gold, makes the rules.
found it.
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html
Dershowitz then goes on to attack these guys, saying that they had not read his memoirs…
Finkelstein then says that when he was writing his memoirs he was referring to his previous position at the NYT as editorial page writer.
so.
Right on Marcy. I stopped reading the article at the line “nonexistant crime.” Told me all I needed to know.
greenwarrior @ 67
GE owns NBC, MSNBC, CNBC is at least one example. GE has a LARGE amount of DoD work and has for years. And not just jet engines but other stuff.
cc in nm @66: “I am outraged and disgusted at the tone of Couric’s “interview” with John and Elizabeth Edwards… it might better be termed a drubbing.”
I was reading your letter to CBS and have decided to donate a little money to Edwards’ campaign in honor of the shitfest masquerading as an interview. Not much, but a little. I’d like to encourage others to do the same. In Couric’s honor, not that she’d know the meaning of the word.
Interesting that Katie Couric’s questions, for the most part, were all the “some say” questions that were meant to put the couple on the defensive. I thought John and Elizabeth were gracious and dignified in their responses.
Can’t stand Couric. She’s simple-minded.
NewsClues @ 73
Excellent idea… I think I’ll do the same. Some good should come of Couric’s incredible rudeness… and all with such a simpering tone.
OKkiddo@28
This is the crux, I think…
Fox with all its entities is Rupert Murdoch.
Viacom is CBS
Disney is ABC
GE is NBC
TimeWarner is CNN
GE especially has had the Defense work for a very long time. I worked for them just after they’d bought RCA (which brought them NBC). I was actually at an RCA facility where I worked on ATE for the Apache helicopter but they’ve had other large DoD chunks.
Dana @ 74
I agree… they held up much better than I would have, and were gracious even though you could see them clinching their jaws.
The bulldog approach of Couric in the last few minutes really got to me.
Perris, read BLINK and then re-think your post. Sure your dad is older. But experienced people make decisions differently than those not so experienced. Gladwell explains it well in BLINK. Your dad is probably recognizing patterns quicker now. No need to make excuses for him, he can still kick your ass when it comes to thinking.
cc in nm 2 66 ~ That was a great letter and I am glad to know I’m not the only one who sent an e-mail to 60 Minutes. I couldn’t hold back. As soon as the interview ended, I fired my e-mail off. Couric is just despicable. Her false “concern” throughout was in such contrast to the nastiness of her questions/comments. She is quite the piece of work.
Thanks, emptywheel. Great post.
I remember at the time you said if Frankel wants to restore the dignity of the NYT he had to face their Judy problem. He didn’t do that, and the elephant still sits in the middle of the room. And it will continue to taint whatever reporting comes out of there related to this subject until the Times decides to suck it up and do so.
john casper from the last thread:
thank you for your kind comment
thanks john casper, i thought i spit all of that out for no apparent reason, not so……….
dmac, I doubt this will help, but you’ve eaten fruit from the “tree of knowledge.” The Genesis myth, expelling Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden, hasn’t stuck around so long, because it’s about God or nudity. It’s about the human experience of lost innocence. It’s rare, however, that I read someone describe it as heartbreakingly well as you did
and jane, wanted to make sure you see this, so am redoing it
for many reasons i won’t get into, no need, i completely love what goes on here, love what you are doing, see the best for you and see a train comin’ round the bend-that you helped supply the coal to power it……
((((you go girl))))
love,
dayna
Heartful gratitude and congratulations for an excellent post (obviously a great deal of work and attention bears fruit here).
The climate in which the Times could publish Miller, flatter the powers that be, facilitate progaganda for a disastrous war, etc. is essentially the same that brings us the current foul weather of the US attorney purge and so much inbetween–arrogance and unchecked corrupting power.
Thanks again for doing so much to counteract and improve these dire conditions. The Times/est. journalism can’t ignore work like yours and will certainly have to register its effects, however distant or incremental, one fine day or another.
After all, it was just such a toothless piece of writing, wasn’t it?
cc says:
I remember the same! What about her children? What about the front page glossies of her getting on with her life in swimsuits and with boyfriends while America cheered after grieving with her?
Not that I don’t appreciate the work she has done to raise awareness of cancer, etc. She lost her husband and sister to it– she should have done much, much better.
gak. I am glad I missed it.
(what an embarrassment to UVA– I guess she could redeem herself one day, some say)
Jane Hamsher @ 79
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Wasn’t I supposed to work that into a PTV?
Back to author detention for me, I suppose.
Excellent post. Not shocked that he protected the NYT, but he never mentions that reporting should require a certain amount of integrity. Or did that stop after 1971.
cc in nm says: And someone above noted that Couric worked full-time at her so-called public calling when her husband was dying of colon cancer. And wasn’t that also the case during her sister’s illness? She used her husband’s experience to advance the benefits of colonoscopies, even televising her own. I’m sure she sees that as all for the public good and what her family would have wanted. But the Edwards? No, they should denounce all public work and stay home.
Why didn’t she denounce the
concernedhypocritical types by allying with the Edwards or at least showing some of her own agreement with their views as part of a balanced interview. She’s certainly not one to evade her personal experience as an interviewer.Marcy, thanks for your post.
I have been thinking about how this gwb43.com email stuff might play into Fitz’s work. Could it be that his investigation did not turn up any of these private-system messages? Didn’t Rove say “oops” with regard to an email that jogged his memory. Was that email part of the 5% or the 95%?
Could it be that this is the kind of thing that would qualify as “new evidence” in Fitz’s investigation? I would want my FBI super-geek to have a look at the servers.
Thanks again.
I fully expected Couric to do the “some might say” questions, as the Edwardses probably did too. They read too.
But I also expected her to plumb other angles, as well. Especially given her own advocacy of early detection of colon cancer. But she wasn’t about to go there with them, how their decision could boost awareness not just of breast cancer and detection, but of how people with cancer (and other chronic diseases) can live vital and productive lives.
And when she went on about the kids, I saw red. Couric, widowed with young children, decided to stick with her demanding, high profile, lotta travel involved, career. And good for her. How dare she intimate that John and Elizabeth Edwards’ decision might not be in the best interest of their young children…and that’s exactly what she did.
That their situation shares some parallels with her own makes her one-note approach to her “interview” particularly egregious.
Great piece here, Marcy. My only additional thought, the “us” in “You did a great job for us” may not refer to the NYT specifically, but rather to the larger neo-Con AIPEC group supported by Miller and Frankel(as well as the NYT’s role in supporting both this agenda, and the Bush administration’s promotion of it through the invasion of Iraq, Iran? etc).
cinnamonape @
29
Thanks for posting this, cinnamonape.
Aside from the glib lies about a “nonexistent crime” and the whitewashes Marcy describes, Frankel insists that malicious leaks like the Plame outing must be permitted because there’s no way to balance the competing public interests in a free press and protecting legitimate secrets.
But in fact, the courts very carefully weighed these interests. Frankel simply ignores that fact. He should be ashamed of his dishonesty.
Re: Couric interview — what a disappointment KC was given her personal experience with the cancer of loved ones.
Just talked to my sister about this. Were we the only ones who thought the editing was weird, i.e., that straight cutaway at the end?
To me, that conveyed the same curt tone as the rest of the piece ( from the KC perspective). Guess it’s hard for someone in the MSM to adjust to interviewing people who respond genuinely and with clarity.
Is there any entity that can freeze the contents of GWB43.com for evidence? Who might do that? Has there been enough evidence that extra-governmental communication has been used for government dirty business to get there, and fast?
Swopa @ 90
Well said Swopa. I’ve said somewhere that the assumption the press is making here is that they–and not the courts–must be the judge on whether official corruption equates to a crime. With our current problems at DOJ, I do wish we had a press capable of the task. But unfortunately, our press is just as corrupt as our DOJ.
emptywheel @
7
short version of Times coverage during the build up to the war: 23 pages of propaganda, and then a short article presenting real facts… buried back on page 23, sometimes on page 17, but always buried by propaganda…
Hey Marcy…
Great post. I haven’t been able to bring myself to read the article yet, but will. I find the way the NY Times and the WaPo (in particular) have handled this cynical exploitation of the 1st Amendment by Rove/Cheney/Libby, to be extremely disillusioning.
You are absolutely right - they need to take a 12 step approach to their role in both promoting the Iraq war and outing Valerie Plame (as political retribution), acknowledge what happened and apologize for misleading the American people - and generally not doing their job. Otherwise they will never regain our trust. They definitely have a blind spot when it comes to their complicity - Woodward is the poster child for this inability to face facts.
And it’s damn well past time for the American people, in the person of our purported representatives in the Legislative Branch, to get publicly angry about the endless deception and abuses of public trust being heaped on our heads, day after day. Deception now practiced as a matter of course by “journalists” and their editors, and by the current 100%-political occupant of the Office of the President and his sidekick political operative who has occupied that office with Mr. Bush every step of the way.
The press simply adores its current role as the powers-that-be-approved censors for the American people. They’ll learn the facts, hear the gossip, and then carefully screen out, and cherry-pick, only whitewashed snippets for the consumption of the public. I’m sure that Mr. Frankel is eager to see this cozy insiders game continue, and will do all that he can to help it sustain itself. One way to expose that game, and fraudulent claims of the need for “confidentiality” of sources, is to significantly reduce the drastically excessive classification of information in our federal government. Excessive classification diminishes and dilutes the importance and significance of classified status, and therefore defeats the main purpose of classification in the first place.
Yes, Mr. Frankel, I’m now utterly unsympathetic to the idea of any sort of legally-sanctioned “privilege” against federal justice system testimony for those in your profession who have turned the concept of a “free press” in this country into a propaganda industry free-for-all. It is the unbelievably corrosive and damaging actions and behavior of your industry that have made me realize the potential for further enormous harm to our democracy, should Congress be conned into enshrining into law the insidiously deceptive current sourcing habits of the corporate-subsidiary media’s propaganda industry, by way of a “reporters’ shield” privilege (which would be owned and exercised by the corporate employers of said reporters). An exemption to testifying in federal criminal investigations being conducted by fellow citizens seated on grand juries, just so that the Secretary of State can continue to tell you his opinion anonymously? Your colleagues have somehow earned such an unprecedented and exclusive right and responsibility with their behavior on behalf of the public’s right to know over the last many years??? I beg to differ.
Good faith whistleblowers in our government are the ones who deserve any “privilege” Congress is in the mood to bestow to exempt the presentation of relevant testimony before federal grand juries (and who deserve legal protection to preserve and enhance their careers in public service). Those selfless public servants are the ones who’ve earned a privilege, and demonstrated the responsibility for such a right, not the reporters/corporations who print what they anonymously say. A large majority of reporters and their employers have demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt, in front of us all, that they cannot be trusted with such a privilege and power, as soon as their corporate boards decide and direct that private corporate interest shall override and trump the public’s right and need to know the facts about how our federal government is acting in our names.
ew - a sad, but essential read. Of all the “old lions”, I would have expected better from Mr. Frankel.
It’s understandable that you describe it thusly:
Just because I am re-reading “Anatomy of Deceit” right now - a more appetizing target of journalistic scrutiny is Mr. Novak. Your takedown of this despicable creature must have been as satisfying to inflict as it was to read. Yes, I’m pimping!
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If you have not bought Marcy’s book, and you are both disgusted by, and hungry to fully comprehend Novakula’s awesome villainy, buy it and look forward to Chapter 4 - “The Beltway Insider”.
moi at 61
hey dmac,
i think you’re pretty cool, i’ve missed you.
thanks, like the world you come from, too………
Jane(nyc)@ 94: Yes, I noticed too. There were a few curt cuts.
And did anybody else notice that Dennis Koslowsky was more lightly handled than the Edwards? That Dennis, he’s just a likeable scoundrel. John and Elizabeth…bad parents. Bad parents! I’m still pissed.
Hmm, some might ask Couric if she had been running for president (what a thought!!), what her husband and children would wanted her to do.
The Times needs to face up to a brutal but indisputable fact:
The New York Times acted as a propaganda organ for the Bush administration’s justification of the Iraq war.
Until I see someone at the NYT stating this indisputable fact in print, I will never trust their analysis of any future political issue.
Celtic Music @ 90
I was outraged at Couric’s hypocrisy. I think she is desperate for ratings and feeling a lot of pressure these days. Nonetheless, her interview of Elizabeth and John was despicable. Her of all people she should know better.
I’m upset that Elizabeth and John felt they had to justify their decisions to Couric. Instead of being on the defensive — I think they should have have been more on the offensive for her asking such @hole questions. She was way out of line. I don’t see anyone asking Cheney these questions…I was very angry over this interview!
Brilliant post, Marcy. Will a very condensed version of this be sent to the Times?
Marcy brings clarity and sense where obfuscation and nonsense want to prevail.
Frankel speaks in vintage tone from the 60s saying we don’t like to admit that the NYT thought of itself member of the good old White House Boys club; not willing to admit the press was being used like the American people were. I’m sure I dont like that alliance, who should judge which leak is a good leak and who which is not?
Frankel is right however, it was a failure in the leadership of GWB. He should’ve gotten to the bottom of this before it left the WH and went to the courts. Just another reason this man has no business being president of the US.
Great explaning there Marcy.
ok kiddo
ok kiddo, people are hung up on having something in common………therein lies the drag of it…..the things we’re hung up on……whether to branch out or build on what that have already heard……when branching is just a surrogate voice…….when building, is tentative, a new territory, but is a land which we already inhabit, sometime soon, will be familiar to say what they see automatically, with no filter, thanks to jane…that is what i see anyway
Eureka Springs, AR @
46
the ability to pursue suspicions and provide succinct, wise analysis is clearly what brings more and finer firepups here, because you can strike swiftly and with authority. the house and senate need to create an office for this warrior/journalist/citizen/ombudsman/bloggor (as in doctor)/expert.
Ouch! Emptywheel, you’re ike Mr. Magoo! You’ve done it again!
Awesome post and nice b*tch slap to Mr. NYT. The grey ady’s hair just turned pure white. Thanks for the Sunday blast.
Exactly.
And the worst thing is that Frankel will never, EVER admit that Judy Miller is NOT a reporter, but neocon zampolit.
We’re talking about someone who ordered US troops around on behalf of Ahmad Chalabi. That’s NOT the action of a disinterested reporter. And Frankel knows this. He MUST know this.
As you know, I agree with all of the criticism of the Times. I also think the observation about the erasure of Miller’s role is a nice criticism of what is, on the whole, a very nice narrative of the whole case (albeit one with a few errors). But I think it’s perfectly possible to agree with all that, with all the criticism, and not come anywhere near the conclusions you come to. Why you think the courts and the DoJ under the Bush administration is going to be more reliable than the press is beyond me.
But anyway, is this news? or is this just a mistake on his part, do you think? or was this clear from elsewhere?
In the evening of July 7, Fleischer flew off with the president and other high officials to visit five African countries, but they worried that the Washington clamor about the 16 Words would drown out the journey’s goodwill message. So Powell and Rice dictated a mealy surrender from Air Force One: Yes, the Niger tale was based on a forgery, and the remaining evidence for the 16 Words “did not rise to the level of inclusion in a presidential speech.”
Hubris, in any case, pins the calls to Sanger and Pincus that night providing the admission on Fleischer. So is this news?
I don’t know if blogwhoring is allowed or not, so please, moderators, if not feel free to remove this, but I have an ActBlue link on my website to donate to the Edwards campaign. Do it for Katie. Do it for the children.
Siun’s upstairs with Who Speaks for Iraq.
Emptywheel - You were too easy on Frankel in the 1st 1/4 of your piece, but you finally hit stride & nailed the sob. Old has beens like Frankel/Woodward have gotten fat and rich off Watergate & have completely lost their integrity. They still do not recognize that they’ve been “had” by their own greed, mendacity, love of influence, and love of being stroked - in the sexual meaning of the word - by the rich and powerful. They are as big a pack of scum as this admin. That’s why print media is dying.
Jeff @
111
I don’t know if it’s “news,” since Fleischer certainly didn’t compose the admission on his own. But I do wonder how Frankel heard this (was it in Fleischer’s testimony?).
hawaiilaw @ 113
Well, it was a really well-written narrative. Wrong. But well-written.
That’s why narratives can be so dangerous. In many ways, this piece is more dangerous than all the tripe that Hiatt or Pod or the ComPost crowd or even Toensing writes, because it is such a great narrative.
Hey, Max, when is your paper going to do an investigation on the events of 9/11?
Bravo, is all I can say!
But I do wonder how Frankel heard this (was it in Fleischer’s testimony?).
There are actually a number of nuggets in there that might be news, but without attribution to sources - which would be a cute and more than cute way of making part of his point, the value of deep confidentiality with sources in producing real and valuable reporting. No idea if that’s what’s going on. But it would be clever and intriguing if it were.
I don’t believe it’s from the Fleischer testimony, though I’ll check. ;)
He could have gotten it from Sanger and/or Pincus.
emptywheel @ 116
Exactly. He kicks the administration just enough to get his other leg up to kick Fitz to the curb. Fitz: an ordinary man doing an ordinary job.
Rest in peace, Frankel.
Jeff @ 118
Agree with Jeff–it wasn’t in the Fleischer testimony. And FWIW, the rest of his treatment of Fleischer all IS from the testimony, down to the admission he might have shared the name (though he takes the weakest version Ari offered).
Given how accurately he described Armitage, it may well be Powell.
Jeff @ 119
I was hoping you’d take the bait on that. Is there any way that some kind soul could hook me up with a copy of Fleischer’s testimony?
Swopa @ 121
What, liveblogs aren’t good enough for you? Fleischer, since he speaks slowly so even journalists can understand, was on the more accurate side. Anything by PatFitz 100 miles a minute though? Even the pros couldn’t keep up with his speaking speed.
brownandserve @
103
You are absolutely correct. nyt served as official cheerleader - just remember those pieces of sh!t by tom friedman (author of The VW & the Palm Tree or some such piece of crap) attempting to justify the war. nyt is intellectually bankrupt.
Keep it simple. Judy Millers reporting was total bullshit. It’s stool like quality could be smelled miles away. The NY Times sold a bunch of lies for some combination of social and monetary gain. Just like it did with Mr. Lee of Los Alimos and Whitewater.
The first amendment has nothing to do with it.
EW, that’s a great analysis. Thank you.
Forgive a sour note, but I don’t remember Frankel fondly. Wikipedia says Frankel was Executive Editor of NYT from 1986 to 1994. The NYT didn’t furnish much opposition then to Reagan’s counter-revolution or Clinton’s triangulation.
It signed off on Negroponte, Abrams, et al helping the Salvadoran, Guatemalan, Honduran and Nicaraguan oligarchies drown Central America in blood; and on Clinton forcing Aristide to rescind his minimum wage increase as a condition of Aristide’s return to Haiti. Not to mention the pro-Israel bias that Angie noted above at 70.
I think Frankel’s good reputation may be associated with the NYT’s publication of the Pentagon Papers in 1971. But by that time, many in the US establishment had deemed the Vietnam war to be cost-ineffective. Like Baker-Hamilton in 2006 Iraq, the NYT wasn’t the first rat to jump off the sinking ship in Vietnam.
emptywheel @ 123
Sheesh. I cite the liveblog, and I get, “You of all people should know it’s not a transcript.” I ask someone for a transcript, and I get, “What, liveblogs aren’t good enough for you?”
Just no pleasing some people, I tell ya. :)
… wait — live-blogging is a profession now?
Watson @ 125
Thanks for that–I was wondering when someone would temper my celebration of Frankel’s reputation. You’re right, you know. But still, there’s something abotu Frankel, even in his prose, that still beats the pants off anyone we’ve seen since.
Swopa @ 126
Ha! But as a leather jacket seamstress, I’m firstrate.
Brilliant, Marcy. Thank you for this. This is why the NYT and Post will go down like the Titanic. And why they hate the blogosphere — they want so much to be able to get away with their bullshit the way they used to.
rapier @ 125
Even better:
If burning a source was so bad, how come Judy Miller had no problem with burning Amy Smithson — and letting Doug Jehl take part of the blame?
Libby was fishing for cover. He wanted the Times to provide it. The hook - dictated by Cheney at the top of his copy of the Wilson OpEd - was the storyline that Wilson’s trip was a boondoggle. The bait was the NIE. Libby and Cheney were playing Miller and the Times the way they played Russert and MTP. Just routine.
Imagine. Libby leaked incomplete aspects of a “secretly declassified” national intelligence estimate to pique the interest of a national reporter whose paper was losing confidence in her. He then outed a spy network combating loose nukes, and lyied about it, to protect his boss’ ass.
Mr. Frankel doesn’t seem to think that one of the “lessons learned” from PlameGate is that his paper and his people - even the ones with Pulitzers and Georgetown firesides - remain prey to the blind ambition that corrupt the people they cover. Time to go back to school, Mr. Frankel.
hawaiilaw @
124
Thanks. But I’ll add that while Friedman was (and still is) an opinion columnist, Judy Miller was a reporter and that makes it more imperative that the NYT swallow hard and acknowledge the brutal fact that I mentioned.
Call me crazy, but wingnuts always seem to think that THEY ALONE are ‘entitled’ to know secrets (since they are Greater and Mightier than us mere blogswarm lambies). Therefore, whatever THEY choose to do with that information is legit. By that circular reasoning, it would simply not be possible for them to commit any underlying crime, because all knowledge is theirs to do with as they please.
Why hasn’t the press asked one simple question: “Since when do VPs go tootling out to ANY agency (HHS, EPA, CIA… whatever) to poke around the file cabinets and harrass public employees?!”
It doesn’t require advanced degrees in Rocket Science to wonder what drives such behavior…. and might even lead the press to stumble over evidence of an underlying crime. (Bogus intell? Bogus Niger docs…? Ahem.)
The sh*t would have hit the fan if Al Gore, or Walter Mondale, or even Richard Nixon had ever gone out to Langley leaning on intel officers. Yet Cheney takes Scooter out to Langley — repeatedly — and the press doesn’t even raise an eyebrow…?
Now THAT’S weird.
Swopa @ 122
So I don’t have the skills of Karl Rove. However, unfortunately, not at the moment. But soon enough, sooner than you’d think.
Hurray! Emptywheel, you have perfect pitch, the finest bullshit detector in these united whatevers.
Thank you again and again.
Marcy, I had been meaning to tell you for some time what a wonderful writer you are.
As I read Anatomy of Deceit, I was struck again & again by how beautiful and flowing your writing is. It makes it a pleasure for the reader, not a struggle.
I used to teach writing, and spent years on the Hill and as a lawyer: writing, reading others’ writing, revising both.
Your research talents and your bulldoggedness on all things Plame put us to shame. But your writing is a wonder to behold, and a blessing for all the rest of us.
Good writing is hard work. It requires persistence and a demand of one’s self to do the best.
Thank you.
Jeff @ 136
Don’t sell yourself short — you’re just more honest than Rove. (He wrote his “I didn’t take the bait” email after he just had taken the bait in a huge way.)
Mauimom @ 137
Thank you, Mauimom.
cc in nm @ 66:
Oooh, I hope they choose your letter to read on the air, particularly that part!!!!
A few more thoughts on Frankel’s piece.
Perhaps Frankel IS showing his age. I read his NY Times piece and this jumped out at me:
“[Libby] and Cheney knew that calling it a spousal perk would discredit Wilson’s mission. Yet they surely also recognized the legal risk in exposing Valerie Plame’s covert status —“
Frankel does NOT scratch his head at this “wife sent him= junket” talk. Instead he nods in agreement at the logic. Perhaps Cheney and Frankel are on similar wavelengths coming from an older generation.
Message to Frankel and Cheney: there is ALREADY a new American century out here.
Frankel also asks the question “When is a leaker a true whistle-blower, risking his personal security to inform the citizenry and preserve the public’s interest? When is a leaker a mendacious opportunist, out to advance the narrow interests of himself or his boss?”
I have part of the answer: When a leaker has ‘special permission’ from the President and Vice President of the US, such leaker is NOT risking ANYTHING and therefore would not be considered a true whistle blower. Take dictation from such person with caution.
Marcy, I know this is too late to post, but I’m going to anyway. If I ever get myself into trouble will you be my lawyer? You see straight to the heart of things.
Everytime I think about cancelling my NYTimes subscription, I remember they did publish Wilson’s op-ed, and they do run Krugman, Rich and Herbert.
pdaly @ 142
That’s a big fat red flag right there.
Niger is one of the poorest nations on earth, if not THE poorest nation. It’s not exactly a top-ranked tourist destination.
One does not go on “junkets” to Niger.
And yet Frankel — whether out of devotion to a fellow Timesman, devotion to fellow neocons, or both — acts like this is a perfectly legitimate thing for Cheney to say.
noblejoanie @ 144
I only took one journalism class in school but I remember my prof saying something to the effect that a newspaper should always make a clear distinction between what reporters were expected to write and what columnists, editorialists, op-ed writers were expected to write. The former were to describe the available facts with relevant sidebars. The latter were to provide analysis/commentary/spin. That Judith Miller was a reporter for the NYT, and was a willing propagandist for the administration’s arguments in favor of invading Iraq, leaves a cloud hanging over the trustworthiness of their future reporting.
All human institutions make mistakes but the half-assed non-apologies I’ve seen so far by the NYT editorial staff don’t do much to restore confidence IMHO.
I just want to second a suggestion from upthread, and urge you to rewrite this diary as a LTE. Or just pick one key point from the diary. Frankel needs to be challenged in print in the pages of the NYT, and I can’t think of anyone better qualified.
I too was impressed by Frankel’s presentation of the facts of 2002 - 2003. Clear timeline, clear identification of the players, the clearest I’ve taken the time to read. The conclusion he reached in his last few paragraphs, after so clearly showing how criminal the enterprise of Cheney et. al. had been, kinda floored me. But it provided its own clarity too - this is what we’re up against with the inside-the-beltway bunch.
Phoenix Woman @
145
EW,
Thank you, thank you, thank you for this commentary on Frankel’s treacly, smoke-blowing, sidling-up-to-the-public, shamelessly-first-person-plural-using, asserting-an-interest-of-the public-in-its-own-bamboozlement, and just damned shameful defense of the indefensible.
In the past few months, I’ve seen Adam Nagourney, Floyd Abrams, and Daniel Schorr speak at Harvard.
When I told Nagourney that he’d taught me not to trust him and the NYTimes he said, “Oh, you mean that Judy Miller thing…” which was not quite what I meant (I’d had two previous run-ins with him and saw how he covered YearlyKos first-hand).
Daniel Schorr spoke up for Judy Miller and proposed a blanket reporter’s privilege in his speech at the Goldsmith Awards a few weeks ago.
I asked Floyd Abrams whether he thought Bush had committed impeachable offenses and he said no.
joejoejoe @ 148
I’m reasonably certain that Fleischer was confused, and he didn’t actually mention Wilson’s wife to Gregory and Dickerson. But I also think he leaked to multiple reporters (including Walter Pincus) the next day from Air Force One, and your logic applies there, IMO — even if true, “his wife sent him” was an irrelevant point in terms of Wilson’s credibility.
OFF TOPIC (although I could go on at length about the difference between newspaper reporter privilege, executive privilege, and attorney client privilege):
Imagine, as a kind of worse case scenario, that Karl Rove had the following conversation with the President:
“Here’s the plan—-first, we slip in a provision in the Patriot Act, without Congress noticing it, that let’s us replace US attorneys without Senate confirmation.
“Then, we get one of my former political operatives, a guy who did opposition research, and put him in as US attorney in Arkansas (you know, Hillary’s home state). He has subpoena power to do opposition research, he has prosecutorial power to lean on people in Arkansas to say things that we want, and he can bring cases just before election time to drive things our way.
“What could possibly go wrong?”
I suppose it would be protected by executive privilege, if the conversation was just between the two of them. If the conversation led to acts that required investigation as criminal matters, my understanding is that under Nixon cases, executive privilege would give way.
Increasingly, the picture is emerging that the White House sought (and is still seeking) to bring the DOJ under political control. When you consider how awesome the US attorney investigatory power and prosecutorial power is, the potential for gigantic political impact of a political DOJ is clear.
The AG, Rove and White House act like they are guilty of something, and we don’t know what it is they are hiding or why they want to hide it.
I commend the link posted on FDL earlier to TPM:
A key aspect of the U.S. attorney purge that often seems to get overlooked–by those who argue that the firings were business as usual and no different from the removal of USAs at the beginning of a president’s term–is the change to the Patriot Act that was quietly inserted by Sen. Arlen Specter at the behest of the Justice Department.
As close followers of the scandal know, the Patriot Act provision, in essence, transferred the power to appoint interim USAs from the federal district courts to the attorney general and allowed the attorney general to install interim USAs indefinitely, thereby bypassing the Senate confirmation process.
Only the naive or willfully blind would see the Patriot Act amendment as a distinct and separate action from the purge itself. Indeed, vesting such powers in the attorney general was a predicate to the purge, and was one of the very first indications, at least to everyone here at TPM, that the removal of the eight U.S. attorneys was not some random act or unrelated series of acts but a deliberately conceived and executed plan that required time to develop and numerous participants to implement. Otherwise, the Senate confirmation process would have made installing political hacks as USAs difficult and would have provided supporters of the ousted prosecutors with a ready-made platform to challenge the removals publicly.
The individual who physically entered the new language into the statute needs to be questioned under oath about how he or she came to do so. Whoever ordered the language needs likewise to be questioned under oath, and so on up the chain until the purpose and origin of that language is known.
The AG removals very much appear to be part of a larger plan, with an indication of guilty motive inferred from the hidden actions to change legislation, and from intense desire of the administration to hide the truth.
Marcy, Marcy, MARCY!
Egads. 7,800 words, and he doesn’t mention that JudyJudyJudy fingered Scooter for the “underlying crime”? What’d he write about 9/11? No, no, let me guess: Long delays reported at many airports.
My god, the nerve of this man.
Indeed? Funny thing, that… the war happened in March of 2003, and those leaks WERE happening in the previous fall. From wikipedia:
But of course, the NYT shilled Judy’s crap story on page one, while shunting the “other viewpoint” stories off to page 23, when it published them at all.
The Times, as Marcy notes, was no dupe, but an active participant.
EW, you are a dangerous radical. ;-)
hawaiilaw @ 114
Yes, hawaiilaw, they’ve become what they made their careers criticizing. How many times have I thought that listening to Woodward pontificate about the BushLeague?! As sad as what perris wrote about his dad. Again, Marcy, thanks for your well-reasoned insight and beautiful writing.
NorskeF said it best:
That’s you, Marcy. We can’t get enough of your writing.
All I have to say is thanks for all your good work. I was very cynical and thought that nothing could stand up to entrenched power and their vast reserves of money. But FDL and TPM have driven stories and understanding of the depths of incestuous corruption that pass for political leadership. Again thanks, and though I’m a little short at the moment, I’m gonna recheck my budget to send some dough. I can use the money that I’m now saving on newspapers, no need to buy them. Again thanks for all the good work.
Damn! Brilliant!
What a mind!
What a mind!
Here’s to you, Marcy.
Joe and Valerie are lucky to have you.
(us, too)
uh….we (are), too….that is. : }
Marcy,
Great job deconstructing Max Frankel. Your dedication and persistence exposing the whole truth - especially when parts have been omitted or twisted into untruth - is exemplar.
The NYT does not want to be accountable for its WMD reporting or its role in the CIA leak case. I see you intend to keep at it until they cry “uncle”. Unless the whole truth becomes part of the historic narrative, we will see these troubling and corrupt manipulations again and again.
I picked up your book again today to reread a section and this quote on the back cover caught my eye:
Nice praise from someone pretty familiar with the case I’d say.
Ms. Wheeler has really nailed it this time. not just Frankel and the NYT, but the press in general with this article. I would make her required reading in all schools public and private because she really tells it like it is. Keep swingin’ that hammer Marcy!
swopa @ 151: “even if true, ‘his wife sent him’ was an irrelevant point in terms of Wilson’s credibility” is right and a really weak attack on him– but it gave them a pretext to expose her and therefore to destroy the counter-proliferation group she was part of.
Reports are that her group was focused on Iran. Iran was to be the next step after the Iraq cakewalk and some said the real, ultimate target.
I maintain that the purpose of naming Plame was to blow up the whole Brewster Jennings operation. Cheney’s people outed the whole bunch of them so nobody would push back on their moves against Iran. It wasn’t just Plame. It was all of them. And it was deliberate.
That guilty knowledge is what gives Libby the pose of being this generation’s Gordon Liddy.
Yes.
Wow.
Kinda makes you wonder if Mr. Frankel got to be Editor-For-A-Day on, say, Thursday when the decision was made to print this SAO-laden tureen filled with codswallop.
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Forgot to mention off the top that this just may be EW’s finest of the fine of all her finest most hours. Breathtaking really.
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Yes, Frankel is a curmudgeonly gripe, but…
Actually I agree with most of the sentiment here about Frankel’s shortcomings, ethical dishonesty, unsavoury alliances & far-right leaning recent articles/reviews. I also think it’s significant that nowhere in his very long, thorough article about Plamegate, did he acknowledge the role of the blogosphere in general or FDL in particular.
However, despite his spurious conclusions & glaring omissions, my god but the bastard can WRITE! Beautifully cogent, economic reporting that said better & more clearly in a few sentences what others still can’t quite logically enunciate. His forensic expertise at explaining & unravelling byzantine intrigue makes him an absolute pleasure to read. With the possible exception of Salon’s Glenn Greenwald, I don’t think there’s a political journalist around today who comes close to his writerly craftsmanship.
Marcy, Thank you for your detailed analysis and PLEASE, PLEASE write a shorter version as a letter to the editor at the NYT and especially include the paragraph beginning:
Marcy, I second, third, fourth or whatever the many requests in this thread for you to write a LTE to the NYT magazine.
In addition to your wonderful prose and cogent analysis, include your “bona fides” of Anatomy of Deceit [”Marcy Wheeler is the author of Anatomy of Deceit, (insert complimentary summary here)]. One hopes that that would tip the scales towards their including your piece.
Getting your rebuttal into the NYT magazine where Frankel’s outrage appeared would have many benefits:
**he’d see it (one presumes)
**other NYTers would see it (again, one presumes)
**there’d be a wide audience of NYT readers who’d see it, probably a wider audience than the daily NYT
**it would provide great publicity for your book
Also, I suggest sending a copy to Joe Conason. We know from the FDL book salon that Joe admires your work. Since his own column is published twice a week (NY Observer & Salon), there’s a chance he’d devote a column to debunking Frankel.
Also, Media Matters, Editor & Publisher — other sites critical of our cheerleading media.
I’m just trying to think of how to get your ideas the widest possible distribution AND get more copies of the book sold.
I agree, write a letter to the NYT magazine - this is too important to let Frankel get away with this.
Great post and great book.
re: 29
Yow! How about an op-ed submission consisting of this quote.
What the Times doesn’t get in their argument about reporter’s privelege to keep secrets is that the telling of the reporters about Plame WAS the crime. This wasn’t about protecting whistleblowers, this was about PARTICIPATING in the crime.
Lee Hartmann @ 170
It is pitiful and telling that Frankal would publicly identify with and try to protect a proven liar like Judy Miller. It is just another example of how logical, rational individuals go blind when it comes to protecting Israel and those who work the MSM over to suit the needs of a few. Frankel and Miller both seem to fall into the category of sayanin’s [ members of the Jewish community who helps out Israel and Mossad agents whether it is in the best interest of the U.S. or not]
Who was that person who sent documents to
ABC television with a story from a ‘reliable’ Middle Eastern source
telling of a plant Saddam had for the manufacturing of uranium –to
suggest that he was developing nuclear capability.
emptywheel:
Great post, particularly the little crescendo there at the end.
I quibble with the tone of disappointment, however, as if Frankel had just become old and lazy. Everything comes back to the war. Frankel wanted it as much as Miller. “joejoejoe” has an illustrative Frankel quote at #27.
The NYT has been attempting for some time to play it both ways, speaking as the press’s conscience in many of its editorials, but giving us Miller and Gordon, on the other hand.
The first part of the post was a bit scatter-brained and all over the place. It didn’t prepare me for the brilliant ass kicking you gave a bit later.
The Press and all the Rich are beyond Embarassment. They don’t give a damn about fitting in or behaving properly for the General Public. They have their own priorities and friends and they don’t need you or me (they think). But, this is purportedly a Democracy, so we’ll see about that.
Awesome writing, Marcy. If the journalists who were following the Libby liveblog are coming back to read you, as they should, this will get noticed. But I second the suggestion that a LTE is needed.
If Nixon had had the foresight to give a blank check to militant Israelis there would never have been a Watergate scandal. Israel fantasies have outed thousands of phonies like Frankel.
I think y’all are being a little hard on the Times and on Frankel. It’s not as if the NYT was uniformly credulous of the administration; in fact at every step leading up to the war to the present, the Times has been the source of much of the best-informed skeptical and critical pieces on the war and the administration. Even working for a much smaller newspaper, as I do, I find inconsistencies from reporter to reporter on subjects of far less complexity than the tangle of motives and politics that drove Iraq War II. Consigning the Times to a supposedly monolithic “mass media” as if it’s indistinguishable from Fox News is as absurdly reductive as saying there are no important differences between the Democratic and Republican parties.
Frankel in fact sharply criticized Miller’s reporting in the NYT Mag piece. Now FDL has a right to portray his piece as it wants, but it would have been more honest to note Frankel’s dismay at Miller’s performance. If the rightly respected Frankel views the Libby affair through the prism of reporters’ rights, that’s nothing to sneer at.
The Times’ mixed signals are not a sign of mendacity; they’re a sign of openness. A newspaper that presents one side of every issue, even when we smart liberals agree with it, is by definition propaganda, and that’s not what I want out of the Times, or any general-interest newspaper.
I’m all for rooting out the bastards who contributed most to this debacle, but I’m not for assigning them all the blame. In fact, the people most to blame for this mess are not any of the usual suspects, but the maddeningly complacent people who elect them, subscribe to their views, watch their TV programs and shrug off their responsibility to remove them. Yes, the volk are finally wising up, but these monsters didn’t come out of thin air.