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		<title>By: rebmarks</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/24/sick-people-make-him-uncomfortable/#comment-583531</link>
		<dc:creator>rebmarks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jane, check out this infuriating op-ed by Joan Vennochi in the Boston Sunday Globe today –&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2007/03/25/maybe_its_time_for_candidate_to_be_a_husband/&quot;&gt;http://www.boston.com/news/glo.....a_husband/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Basically she says that poor Elizabeth is crazed by the loss of her son and her own cancer, and has become a whirling dervish so that she won’t have to think about them, and it’s time John stopped being a politician and was a good husband instead, stopping this terrible merry-go-round so that poor Elizabeth can lie on her fainting couch and expire in a proper and acceptable manner.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane, check out this infuriating op-ed by Joan Vennochi in the Boston Sunday Globe today –</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2007/03/25/maybe_its_time_for_candidate_to_be_a_husband/">http://www.boston.com/news/glo&#8230;..a_husband/</a></p>
<p>Basically she says that poor Elizabeth is crazed by the loss of her son and her own cancer, and has become a whirling dervish so that she won’t have to think about them, and it’s time John stopped being a politician and was a good husband instead, stopping this terrible merry-go-round so that poor Elizabeth can lie on her fainting couch and expire in a proper and acceptable manner.</p>
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		<title>By: Bionic</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/24/sick-people-make-him-uncomfortable/#comment-583516</link>
		<dc:creator>Bionic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Late to the party Jane, but damn, you are a fine writer!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I love what you have to say about this issue because you shut up all the concern trolls and all the rest of us who have had second hand experience and thus know what should be done.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All I can say from my own brushes with tragedy is that I tried to find the silver lining or lesson from the experience.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If all this “well meaning” advice continues I hope Elizabeth Edwards will issue a statement that wonders if any of the concern trolls would like complete strangers to butt into their lives and tell them what to do.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sending positive energy to the both of you.  You make the world a better place.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late to the party Jane, but damn, you are a fine writer!</p>
<p>I love what you have to say about this issue because you shut up all the concern trolls and all the rest of us who have had second hand experience and thus know what should be done.</p>
<p>All I can say from my own brushes with tragedy is that I tried to find the silver lining or lesson from the experience.</p>
<p>If all this “well meaning” advice continues I hope Elizabeth Edwards will issue a statement that wonders if any of the concern trolls would like complete strangers to butt into their lives and tell them what to do.</p>
<p>Sending positive energy to the both of you.  You make the world a better place.</p>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/24/sick-people-make-him-uncomfortable/#comment-583324</link>
		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 16:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It has been my personal experience that the majority of us have convinced ourselves that life is a bowl of Sugar Corn Pops. When a problem intrudes itself into a person’s life, those who are not directly involved prefer that the person go off quietly into a corner - it’s too scary to realize the same thing could happen to you, and, we don’t like the idea of having to deal with the unpleasant. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You have the courage and wisdom to realize that life is right now, this moment - that’s all there is - so you choose to live, and as an adjunct, continue to make our lives better. By so doing, you enrich the lives of many, many people, most of whom you don’t even know.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been my personal experience that the majority of us have convinced ourselves that life is a bowl of Sugar Corn Pops. When a problem intrudes itself into a person’s life, those who are not directly involved prefer that the person go off quietly into a corner &#8211; it’s too scary to realize the same thing could happen to you, and, we don’t like the idea of having to deal with the unpleasant. </p>
<p>You have the courage and wisdom to realize that life is right now, this moment &#8211; that’s all there is &#8211; so you choose to live, and as an adjunct, continue to make our lives better. By so doing, you enrich the lives of many, many people, most of whom you don’t even know.</p>
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		<title>By: Maureen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/24/sick-people-make-him-uncomfortable/#comment-583278</link>
		<dc:creator>Maureen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 16:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One thing that should be remembered is that Rush belittling people with cancer/diseases is deeply political.   &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“See we healthy, God-fearing Republicans don’t need no socialized medicine.  Those weak, sinful, whining liberals, they go running to the government for help when they get their degenerate selves sick.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Remember that Rush will be leading the attacks when the fight for universal health care comes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that should be remembered is that Rush belittling people with cancer/diseases is deeply political.   </p>
<p>“See we healthy, God-fearing Republicans don’t need no socialized medicine.  Those weak, sinful, whining liberals, they go running to the government for help when they get their degenerate selves sick.”</p>
<p>Remember that Rush will be leading the attacks when the fight for universal health care comes.</p>
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		<title>By: Marilyn InTexas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marilyn InTexas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 16:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for this thread on Elizabeth.  In her courage and love of life, I saw my son’s story. He died of complications of diabetes a few months shy of his 50th year, but never in the 20 years of this disease’s slings and arrows against his body did he lose determination to live, albeit with his limitations.  He continued to work as a construction designer, at first full time, then sporadically between hospital stays.  He lost first his toes, then his left leg.  His prothesis never fit him comfortably, but he appeared at our wedding anniversary celebration wearing it, knowing it would please us to see him walking. Even when he went on disability, he continued to design - trying to get a patent on a wheel chair to be used in the driver’s seat of his car.  He never gave up, even in great pain.  Only the night he died did he tell his dad he might not make it - not for himself but to warn us of what he knew the morning might bring. His example is such a beacon to us, and I saw the same thing in Elizabeth’s eyes the other day.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this thread on Elizabeth.  In her courage and love of life, I saw my son’s story. He died of complications of diabetes a few months shy of his 50th year, but never in the 20 years of this disease’s slings and arrows against his body did he lose determination to live, albeit with his limitations.  He continued to work as a construction designer, at first full time, then sporadically between hospital stays.  He lost first his toes, then his left leg.  His prothesis never fit him comfortably, but he appeared at our wedding anniversary celebration wearing it, knowing it would please us to see him walking. Even when he went on disability, he continued to design &#8211; trying to get a patent on a wheel chair to be used in the driver’s seat of his car.  He never gave up, even in great pain.  Only the night he died did he tell his dad he might not make it &#8211; not for himself but to warn us of what he knew the morning might bring. His example is such a beacon to us, and I saw the same thing in Elizabeth’s eyes the other day.</p>
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		<title>By: ruffian</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/24/sick-people-make-him-uncomfortable/#comment-583196</link>
		<dc:creator>ruffian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;DItto #196&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You are my inspiration…..&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DItto #196</p>
<p>You are my inspiration…..</p>
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		<title>By: JoyB</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/24/sick-people-make-him-uncomfortable/#comment-583111</link>
		<dc:creator>JoyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 14:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jane, you are spot on. I had a very dumb little cancer event (malignant melanoma, caught early) the past couple of months. My reaction was NOT to write my will, but to go to a scrapbooking retreat, increase my letter writing, study for my java certification. To plan things out with my little daughter better. It was totally and completely to engage with life. I’m trying not to lose the lesson.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It did occur to me during that time when I was reading FDL, This must be why Jane Hamsher is living so keenly. None of us have an inexhaustible supply of chances and she knows it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane, you are spot on. I had a very dumb little cancer event (malignant melanoma, caught early) the past couple of months. My reaction was NOT to write my will, but to go to a scrapbooking retreat, increase my letter writing, study for my java certification. To plan things out with my little daughter better. It was totally and completely to engage with life. I’m trying not to lose the lesson.</p>
<p>It did occur to me during that time when I was reading FDL, This must be why Jane Hamsher is living so keenly. None of us have an inexhaustible supply of chances and she knows it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 14:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Preface: several months ago my wife was diagnosed with breast cancer.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What we’ve come to realize: nothing’s changed but our awareness of death. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A friend who is undergoing treatment for prostate cancer called his diagnosis “one more loss of innocence”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cancer victims may live for another 15 or 20 years, or they may die in 1. But this is something they share with the rest of humanity. Nobody knows for whom the bell tolls or when. A cancer diagnosis simply and absolutely wrecks our illusion that it won’t ring for me or anyone I love.  But it will.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The upside is, this makes each day palpable and of infinite worth.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Preface: several months ago my wife was diagnosed with breast cancer.</p>
<p>What we’ve come to realize: nothing’s changed but our awareness of death. </p>
<p>A friend who is undergoing treatment for prostate cancer called his diagnosis “one more loss of innocence”.</p>
<p>Cancer victims may live for another 15 or 20 years, or they may die in 1. But this is something they share with the rest of humanity. Nobody knows for whom the bell tolls or when. A cancer diagnosis simply and absolutely wrecks our illusion that it won’t ring for me or anyone I love.  But it will.</p>
<p>The upside is, this makes each day palpable and of infinite worth.</p>
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		<title>By: arbogast</title>
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		<dc:creator>arbogast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 13:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jesus H. Christ, Jane.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Look, I’m not going to be shy.  I adore you.  You are eloquent, fiery, strong, intelligent.  Beautiful.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Keep up the good work.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I pray for you.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus H. Christ, Jane.  </p>
<p>Look, I’m not going to be shy.  I adore you.  You are eloquent, fiery, strong, intelligent.  Beautiful.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work.</p>
<p>I pray for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Tennessean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tennessean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 12:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;First of all, the concept of “public service” is clearly lost on Carney. His conceit, that he–who has never battled cancer–has the right to judge, is just obnoxious and self-absorbed. But worse, Carney clearly makes this judgment out of fear; fear that he has admitted he would gladly teach to his children. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Secondly, since Carney has no courage, he has no conception of the spiritual fulfillments which sustain cancer survivors’ physical strength–and perhaps impact survival, but at the very least, give life meaning while one is alive. Elizabeth Edwards isn’t dead; she is a cancer survivor, not yet a victim. Why shouldn’t she live her life to the fullest while she is alive–particularly if it gives her spiritual fulfillment? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thirdly, and most importantly of all, the Edwards know what Carney does not: That “small children” as well as big ones learn lessons of life when a parent is seriously ill. The lessons that Carney’s “two small children” would learn is to just GIVE UP, CURL UP, and DIE. The lesson that the Edwards’ “two small children” will learn is that life takes courage, commitment to ideals, dedication to something GREATER than yourself. I know these lessons: I am the child of a cancer victim, who ultimately lost a seven-year battle, but the lessons learned from watching a spirited woman who refused to give in or give up are with me every single day since. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How sad, for Carney’s children, that their father would teach them to give up in the face of adversity; to cringe and cower and give up all meaning in life, just because they are diagnosed with a disease. And, how pathetic, Carney’s selfish, conceitful fantasy of his own struggle with cancer, just so he can judge someone who actually does have cancer. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;John And Elizabeth Edwards are living life to the fullest while they are still living, dedicated to ideals larger than themselves, committed to public service, but, as well, secure in the close bonds with their children. They are a rare example of truly devoted parents, committed to each other, committed to their life goals, and committed to their children. One of them happens to have cancer. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lastly, it is a truism that our biggest obstacles are often our greatest opportunities to make a difference in others’ lives. The spotlight the Edwards’ campaign can shine on HEALTH CARE ISSUES in this country presents just such an opportunity. That John and Elizabeth Edwards struggle with the same fears, struggles, and experiences that other Americans do as they work jobs, raise children, fight cancer, insurance companies and judgmental twits like Carney–not to mention ANAL CYSTS like Rush Limbaugh–could be profound. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That is a legacy to their children they can be proud of; I doubt Carney can comprehend that, but he should ask himself–What legacy would I leave to my children, what lessons would I teach them with my example?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, the concept of “public service” is clearly lost on Carney. His conceit, that he–who has never battled cancer–has the right to judge, is just obnoxious and self-absorbed. But worse, Carney clearly makes this judgment out of fear; fear that he has admitted he would gladly teach to his children. </p>
<p>Secondly, since Carney has no courage, he has no conception of the spiritual fulfillments which sustain cancer survivors’ physical strength–and perhaps impact survival, but at the very least, give life meaning while one is alive. Elizabeth Edwards isn’t dead; she is a cancer survivor, not yet a victim. Why shouldn’t she live her life to the fullest while she is alive–particularly if it gives her spiritual fulfillment? </p>
<p>Thirdly, and most importantly of all, the Edwards know what Carney does not: That “small children” as well as big ones learn lessons of life when a parent is seriously ill. The lessons that Carney’s “two small children” would learn is to just GIVE UP, CURL UP, and DIE. The lesson that the Edwards’ “two small children” will learn is that life takes courage, commitment to ideals, dedication to something GREATER than yourself. I know these lessons: I am the child of a cancer victim, who ultimately lost a seven-year battle, but the lessons learned from watching a spirited woman who refused to give in or give up are with me every single day since. </p>
<p>How sad, for Carney’s children, that their father would teach them to give up in the face of adversity; to cringe and cower and give up all meaning in life, just because they are diagnosed with a disease. And, how pathetic, Carney’s selfish, conceitful fantasy of his own struggle with cancer, just so he can judge someone who actually does have cancer. </p>
<p>John And Elizabeth Edwards are living life to the fullest while they are still living, dedicated to ideals larger than themselves, committed to public service, but, as well, secure in the close bonds with their children. They are a rare example of truly devoted parents, committed to each other, committed to their life goals, and committed to their children. One of them happens to have cancer. </p>
<p>Lastly, it is a truism that our biggest obstacles are often our greatest opportunities to make a difference in others’ lives. The spotlight the Edwards’ campaign can shine on HEALTH CARE ISSUES in this country presents just such an opportunity. That John and Elizabeth Edwards struggle with the same fears, struggles, and experiences that other Americans do as they work jobs, raise children, fight cancer, insurance companies and judgmental twits like Carney–not to mention ANAL CYSTS like Rush Limbaugh–could be profound. </p>
<p>That is a legacy to their children they can be proud of; I doubt Carney can comprehend that, but he should ask himself–What legacy would I leave to my children, what lessons would I teach them with my example?</p>
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