
Yes, Rush Limbaugh is a pig, and nobody was surprised when he started slinging mud at Elizabeth and John Edwards immediately following their announcement that her cancer had returned. It's what he's paid to do. His job is to make fun of Michael J. Fox's Parkinson's disease -- to interject the unspeakable in to the public discourse that gives the lizard brains irrational rationale to keep on thinking what they want to think. And because he does it on behalf of power, he will pay no price. Someone on the left doing the same thing would be pilloried and banished, but Rush is sanctioned to be an out-of-control id, an omnivorous, self-indulgent glutton whose rapacious apetities can not be satiated.
As Olbermann says, unless decency comes in pill form, it just isn't something Rush is going to manifest.
Jay Carney, on the other hand, is not paid to be a professional pig, he's supposed to appear "reasonable." He obviously took a lot of shit for his patronizing piece on Elizabeth Edwards, and thus decided to revisit it. As did Ana Marie Cox, who also wrote at Swampland:
First of all, this framework presents what might be -- in the eyes of both John and Elizabeth -- a false choice. From all they've told us, the Edwards family sees those duties (as husband, as father, as candidate), as overlapping. Surely, one reason John Edwards is running for president because he wants to be a part of creating a better world for his family. Which brings us to the second problem: The decision to keep the campaign going was not John Edwards' alone to make. (And I find the presumption that it could be startlingly archaic.) John may find himself pulled to simply concentrate on his family, but I think Elizabeth would push back. I think she already has.
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Is that decision selfish, given that the couple has two small children? I can't say -- and I'm not sure if anyone who doesn't know the family can -- but I don't think it's a question with a standard answer. The family already has been through two grueling campaigns, so I think they know what lies ahead in that realm.
It's a very thoughtful piece, and I think she gets to the heart of the matter -- nobody can say what they would do in the Edwards' shoes, because they alone know their situation and what will work best for them. But that doesn't stop Carney from trying:
Everyone will come at this question from his or her own personal perspective. As the parent of two young children, I know I couldn't make the same decision that the Edwards made.
He then drifts off into some rambling justification about how much his kids mean to him, blah blah blah, as if supposedly the Edwards' must stand in stark contrast to his strong feelings of parental responsibility.
(*yawn*)
Okay, here we go. if Jay Carney is a cancer survivor, it's surprising he didn't mention it, so I'm going to assume he's not, and seriously I doubt he or anyone else who has never heard a doctor use the big "c" word can reliably predict how they would respond. I've frankly never heard a cancer survivor who said "yeah, it was pretty much just like I thought it would be." One of the many problems people with cancer face is the quote-unquote "well meaning" concerns of friends who have had an aunt or a sister or a parent who had cancer and thus know all about it and therefore what you should do. And sometimes you have to accommodate those feelings because they are very strong and you realize that your disease strikes others when it strikes you. But in your heart you know that much of this need to "control" stems from issues they haven't faced within themselves that have absolutely nothing to do with you.
As Atrios said:
People who get a serious illness, or become disabled, lose both their agency and their humanity in the eyes of many. They become freaks who have to prove they are human in every interaction, and have to reassert their own agency at every moment.
For some reason the most natural and seemingly healthy impulse - to go on with your life as you had intended to the best of your ability - seems to be the most alien to those not experiencing a tragic illness.
Does Carney know for sure he wouldn't wake up one day and see a look of terror in his kids' eyes, who know something is wrong because Daddy's just lying around the house in his bathrobe, and catch a glimpse of himself in the mirror and realize this thing had beaten him? Does he know for a fact that he would not grab his clothes and rush out the door and -- I don't know -- run for President or something, because right then at that moment what he and his kids needed more than anything in the world was to have them look at him and see a whole, functioning, healthy, vibrant human being with a passion for living? I can't say, but I seriously doubt he can, either.
Carney is a "concern troll" whose issues probably eclipse those of Elizabeth Edwards, and the longing for her to just get off the national stage and out of his line of sight is quite self-serving, and dragging his kids into it -- invoking "other parents" as if this somehow elevates both his sentiments and the discussion -- is pretty repellent.
I hope Carney never finds out what it's like to hear the "c" word, but from experience I can tell you that it's unlike anything you anticipate. One day you might just find yourself throwing up your hands and saying to everyone's surprise -- including your own -- "what I'm doing with my life right now feels irrelevant, the world is in a bad place so I think I'll start a blog."
You never know.
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Jane!
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HI Jane!
Ready for the game?
Rush Limbaugh is last.
Quick reminder that I’ve posted the transcript of Bill Maher’s remarks about the Plame outing here.
TiredFed @
3
I’m watching the game. Took my walk and got my basketball privileges restored early.
Hey Jane, good to see ya
the word cancer is like hearing a sentence. my brother died from it. my mother-in-law has had two forms (at the same time). not something you ever want to hear. I can imagine it must change your outlook on life.
Hope you took your walk today.
It’s on?? crap, lost track of the time (too much laundry!!!)
You started one; you have done so much else. The future for us begins today. Be well and keep up the good fight not to mention the faith.
Hey, Jane,
Your closing paragraphs gave me a big smile. (I hope they were supposed to.)
Rock on!
My brother-in-law had cancer; my sister’s lfe got a lot tougher - she had to take him to chemo and back, and do a lot more at home than before - but she kept working, partially because she had to, but partially so there was something in her life that wasn’t her husband’s cancer.
Let’s not forget, as well, that the Edwards family has access to the best healthcare, as did my brother-in-law, through his insurance. After my first reaction of prayers for Elizabeth Edwards, my second thought was that it was good that they weren’t among those who didn’t have access to health care. And I don’t think it’s inappropriate for them to say so - it’s a huge issue, and unconscionable that it still is one.
Oh, and I hate to tar pigs by comparing them to Rush. Perhaps a mosquito - annoying, noisy, and disease-spreading?
TiredFed @
8
And later tonight — women’s basketball!
We’re cooking fish for dinner.
I just like watching basketball.
The Edwards are showing some of that fearlessness that gets talked about a lot around here.
Carney is showing fear and that’s why he works for a fear-creation outlet like Time magazine.
and we are SO glad you decide to start a blog! you may have changed the world with this little “distraction.”
In the flap about Elizabeth Edwards’ health, why did no one mention Vice’s? From what is publicly known, his is much worse than hers. So bad, in fact, that John Dean argues in Worse than Watergate that he shouldn’t be Vice, if all were made public.
Oh silly me, He’s an R (everything they do is right) and she’s a d (everything they do is wrong). I forgot for a moment.
Jane Hamsher @ 12
OK, gratuitous exhortation time…Go Bruins!
Hi Jane!
we’re watching Ohio State (wife is from Akron) and Memphis. UCLA on at 7 here. Good women’s game on tonight?
“As the parent of two young children I chose to become addicted to Hillbilly Heroin. Oh man I love it. Hey did I tell you or my two young children about my little ‘vacation’ in the Dominican Republic (nudge nudge wink wink)? Hey, what happens in the Dominican Republic stays in the Dominican Republic!”
Jane, you are an exceptionally beautiful human being. I am quite certain of that.
This blog you have created is as good as it gets. Outstanding!
I always look forward to your posts because they present a perspective and depth of understanding all presented with a style and clarity of writing that is downright awesome.
Love you gal!
I want a bumpersticker that says
‘Pelosi / Edwards ‘07
A Woman’s Place is in the White House’
And Rush and Carney can take long walks off a short dock.
eCAHNomics @
15
I was actually going to do a snarky piece replacing the Cheneys for the Edwards in Carney’s article but it seemed like more effort than the article deserved. But yeah, I agree. And then there is the fact that Cheney actually SHOULD call it quits for the good of the nation, which kind of kills the point.
For some people, that choice would be just as irrelevant.
If you’re Jane Hamsher, though…
(Thanks for making that decision, Jane.)
wish I had known Carol Shea-Porter was going to be on. I’m not a quick thinker. She’s on Armed Services - would have wanted to ask her about AUMF, Walter Reed, and a few other things. Oh well, so glad she was here.
Jane Hamsher @ 22
Yeah, but that has nothing to do with his physical health.
jane - you’ve been blogging up a storm, and i’m loving it. i don’t know how you do it, but somehow your posts almost always inspire me… thank you.
I wonder if Rush Limbaugh can stand himself.
Must take pills to look in the mirror.
Mutant Poodle @
11
The difference between Limbaugh and pigs is that pigs are clean and intelligent.
My sister had cancer and I have no idea what she went through other than what she shared with me as we were (and are) living in different parts of the country. My mother had just about every lung disease except cancer and I know what I observed of what she went through but really can’t know it for myself. I do know that because of her problems and the fact that she smoked and drank, I do neither.
For myself, I had a serious lung disease when I was seven that put me in the hospital for two weeks. I’ve since discovered that if I had been born as little as ten to fifteen years earlier, I most likely would not have made age ten but would just have been another victim of “consumption.” Fortunately, at the time I had no clue just how sick I was, just knew I had a bad cough that freaked the adults out.
Astounding…
Thanks so much for this.
TiredFed @
14
Reminds me of Murtha saying that before she died, his 96 year old great grandmother told him that people are put on this world to make a difference; that he would make a difference. Jane has surely made a difference, and will continue to make a difference. It sort of gives one immortality.
Jane got game.
One day you might just find yourself throwing up your hands and saying to everyone’s surprise — including your own – “what I’m doing with my life right now feels irrelevant, the world is in a bad place so I think I’ll start a blog.”
And really glad you did Jane….
Sometimes, very good things come from a Cancer diagnosis. Mine… (uterine CA) resulted in the adoption of two kids from Korea who 20 yrs later have grown into wonderful adults.
Wow. You move me, and inspire me to action Jane.
Life has a funny way of playing out, and we’re so lucky yours has brought you here.
Swopa @ 23
my feeligs exactly. Well folks, Im off to work. Keep the faith>
I have to say that I was impressed with Tony Snow’s remarks about Elizabeth on the 22nd and yesterday. I wish the best for him, too.
compare and contrast with the character up top, who in fact had Snow sub for him on his radio show when he had his health issues.
Ah. I see NC State v. UCONN. Good game. One of my girls plaved JV ball this year and hopes to play Varsity next year. She plays AAU year-round. Needless to say, we watch a lot of basketball.
Jane, excellent piece.
We’re rooting for Ohio State here [husband], and he graciously will root for UCLA [moi] in the next game. Last night’s loss by USC was a problem for son. Daughter has never gone to a school with a football team [the “fighting” Violets of NYU].
I’m posting so long after reading because I skipped over to read the comments on Carney’s second attempt. Interesting.
As I said earlier in the week, it’s a pity whoop-ass isn’t a cure for stupidity.
OT–here’s a surprise (not), if you live in Manhattan. From rawstory:
Midtown was like Baghdad, without suicide bombers. Militarized vehicles, cops in riot gear, no one on the street. It was the R authoritarianism in full boil. Everything you could see and everything that you couldn’t see.
I would never presume to tell anyone who had cancer how to manage their life.
In fact, I try to never tell ANYONE how to manage their life…unless they ask.
eCAHNomics @
15
And what about the “mental health [sic]” of the Chimp?????
Powerful piece, Jane. We must always remember that but for OxyRush’s mighty spew-mongering about Michael Fox, we might not have won Missouri.
As far as I’m concerned, everytime I see Barbara Boxer and/or Patrick Leahy slam a gavel, I will have that pustulant, bloviating hypocritical drug addict to thank.
That’s some good writing right there.
Thanks, Jane.
Ohio State has a game today?
Don’t laugh–at this moment I know more than my husband does.
I refuse, absolutely refuse, to allow these vicious people to sap one more ounce of emotional energy from my life. I say, hold up a mirror and send it all back at them. Then, shift thinking and action toward making things better for the world. They want people angry, scared, and frustrated for only one reason, and that is to control what we think. Screw them. Tend your garden and love one another.
we need our own TV network, with Keith O. on against the other anchors. we need our own newspaper in every major market. we need radio stations. we need… sigh. we have a lot of work to do.
ok. off to make pizza for me and “the wife.” (haha - dont tell her I called her that, ok?) UCLA comes on in about 5 minutes.
My quick reading put a different vowel in “dock.”
Funny how Rush’s issu4es with back pain and narcotics abuse never seemed to be critical enough to pull himself off the airwaves.
But perhaps he was harkening back to the time when those anal cysts kept him out of his HS football games (oh right, they didn’t- did they) and the US Armed Forces (THAT, they did!).
OT - Mary, over at the Left Coaster has a very interesting article up on Politicizing the Justice System.
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Carney’s comments remind me of “Shawshank Redemption”. It seems to me that Carney would rather git busy dyin’. I am sure that is what Carney would want. Laying around in his bath robe. His kids watching him feel sorry for himself. I guess you can’t tell that I think Carney is a complete tool.
Jane, I don’t know what it’s like to sit in a doctor’s office and hear the “C” word. I do believe, though, that you must have always had the determination you’d make the world around you better than you originally found it.
I think this is something to strive for.
I came out of a fundamentalist background. I don’t attend church anymore, but I had those verses drilled into my head. I can’t help but wonder if the kindness and compassion of Elizabeth Edwards’ contacting Tony Snow the other day perhaps heaped a few hot coals on the heads of conservatives who’ve made their filthy lucre smearing Mrs. Edwards and her family.
-S
BTW, walked past UN on way home from errands today and told the Faux News crew that they had spelled their name wrong on the truck. Actually got a friendly grin–perhaps because I was grinning at them and they didn’t immediately catch on.
Hi Jane. When did you and CHS come out from behind your blog name? I know some poor guy is still known as “Mr. Reddhead”, but
my belief in FDL really started when I got to know ya.
Mauimom @ 48
yeah, me too. “duck” heh heh.
As a cancer survivor I know that both my wife and I wanted nothing more that to live life as normally as possible during treatments.
Crawling into a hole is the last thing most cancer patients want to do.
You have to live life, it’s what gives you purpose.
Hopes and prayers to all who fight the good fight and those who support them.
Jane -
I was in the airport in Charlotte, North Carolina when I saw the announcement about Elizabeth Edwards - and immediately thought of you and your bravery and determination.
I’m glad you are being so vocal in support of the Edwards’ decision to go about living their lives. And how nice of Elizabeth to thank you on a previous thread for your support and advocacy.
By the way, where is the hue and cry over Guiliani running for Prez even though he has been treated for prostate cancer? I would think it would be as much of an issue as a man running for president whose wife may yet have a good 10 to 20 years of high quality life ahead of her. Why the double standard? Oh, that’s right, it’s unfair to the Edwards’ children…What a crock.
FYI - I’ll be traveling for the next two months back and forth from east coast to west coast, but would be happy to help out in any way. Please don’t hesitate to let me know…
Brava, Jane. Just stunning.
btw, my girlfriend/future wife and I bought our first Sony Trinitron about 35 years ago to watch the Bruins in one of their championship seasons. Back in the John Wooden years.
LMAO.
Bullseye, as per usual.
OT- Breaking news….
Ledeen says “…Khamenei has taken a turn for the worse—his health is awful…”
Hard to imagine…
dab_from_ct @ 57
Well, now lets be fair to Rudy. He doesn’t have to worry about his children because his children don’t talk to him.
Guiliani solved that one by becoming estranged from his children.
I so agree about no one knowing what they would do, unless they were facing it themselves.
I’ve been on both sides. When I was 11, I had a condition that looked like leukemia. I was even slated for chemo, until a doctor asked one more question, ran one more test. It was scary to hear that I had a disease that was (back then) almost always fatal. Worse, my grandfather was dying of it during that very time. I’d already seen what he was suffering, and that was going to be my fate? Would I get to go to college? Meet someone special and have a family? Even though I was that young, I also wondered, “Oh God, they won’t make a yucky movie like that stupid Love Story thing about me, will they? Oh please, anything but that!”
Speaking of my grandfather, I didn’t get along with him very well before he got leukemia. But, whenever he was in the hospital, it seemed like I was always given “sit with him” duty. He didn’t want to talk or anything. He just laid there. Of course, if he wanted something to drink, or maybe another blanket, I’d do it. Sometimes, he had me read to him. But that was it.
I thought it strange that I was always the person sitting with him, and even weirder that he always asked for me. One day, he finally told me he was sorry for bothering me, I surely wanted to be doing things 11-year-old girls did. I told him it didn’t bother me; I could read in peace and quiet, for a change, rather than my mother nagging me to quit sitting around, get out, do something outside. Then he told me “People don’t understand that, right now, I don’t like all the nagging and fussing and tears and worrying and trying to cheer me up. I just want someone to be here. They don’t have to say anything. Just be here. That’s enough.”
I was young, but I understood what he was saying: Everybody else was too busy trying to tell him what he needed, rather than listening to what he had to say about it. Hell, they hadn’t even asked. I know they were all trying to be helpful, but they were driving him crazy (I understood the sentiment).
Anyway, sometimes, you have to shut up, turn off the control freak in all of us, set aside the old ego trying to “save the day,” and listen to what the other person needs. And then you have to support them in it. It ain’t easy. I had reservations about attending a costume party while my brother was in chemo. But he wanted to go. If it made him feel better (which it did), why not?
It’s the same thing with the Edwards family. I can’t say what is best for them. I wouldn’t presume to do such a thing. Only they know the best path for them to follow.
I would think that facing a diagnosis of cancer, I would want to live as fully and as purposefully as possible. Trying to help her husband win the nomination for President may be just the right prescription for Elizabeth Edwards health.
As someone whose wife has spent two week long spells in the cardiac ICU over the last five years (two sets of stents, doing very well thank you), I can say Carney is missing the most important piece of the puzzle.
He doesn’t realize that he couldn’t decide anything by himself. Just as my wife and I did when we made the decision to adopt after her first heart attack, the decision is made together, and the person who hasn’t been ill is completely tuned into the wants and needs of the person who has been sick. That is the sense I got from the announcement made by both John and Elizabeth. You know it wasn’t John making the decision on his own. Based on my experience, that would simply be impossible.
By contrast, look at these two revealing statements by Carney:
In the first quotation, he acts as if he would simply make the decision himself, as if his “I” would make the decision (compared to the Edwards making the decision together). If Carney’s wife is dead or they are divorced, this makes sense. Is she?
The second quotation is more bizarre. First, the implicit moral judgment is just faulty. It implies terminally ill people shouldn’t travel away from their children, but my reading is that his logic applies to elderly people just as well. By contrast, young and healthy parents — send your kids to boarding school, drive in NASCAR without a seatblet, play Russian Roulette all you want. The whole airplane metaphor indicates he’s not clear about what he’s trying to say. Being sick doesn’t increase the odds of the plane crashing — so why even bring it in to the discussion?
But what really is weird is how he puts himself in Elizabeth’s position. He is actually criticizing Elizabeth’s continued participation in the campaign, not John’s decision to keep campaigning. He’s just morally confused.
Carney knows not the first thing about what he is talking about. He’s just dug himself in deeper, and frankly I find his brand of holier-than-thou pomposity insulting. Give a guy a soapbox and he thinks he is the authority on everything. This is a great counterexample.
Considering what you’ve accomplished with this blog, I find this an amazingly powerful and inspiring remark. Brought tears to my eyes.
Jane, you have done so much good. Rock on.
Jane, this is one of the best posts you’ve ever written, and you set the bar high quite a long time ago. Thank you.
Enjoy your hoops and fish. And go Tar Heels!
Jane, you have done so much good. Rock on.
Amen.
Yes, but we’ve all been given a sentence. It’s called life. So we all might as well live while we’re alive.
Scarecrow @ 58
FWIW, Wooden’s last NCAA championship game, 1975, against Joe B. Hall and Kentucky, is imho a great example of what basketball can be. It was pre-shot clock, pre-three point basket, fast break basketball. OT, if you watch it, you’ll immediately see how much weightlifting has changed the game.
Illustrating how fickle they can be, UCLA fans had booed Wooden his final year at Pauley Pavillion. Wooden won ten national championships. I do not think anyone else has more than four. Bobby Knight and Mike Krzyzewski each have three. Dean Smith has two.
Hi Jane,
I’ve never posted here before, or thanked you for being who you are, or thanked you for doing what you do.
This seemed like the right time. The world is better for you being in it. And far better because you took your personal crisis as an opportunity to make the world a better place.
You have.
punaise @
32
Jane’s gonna kick C’s booty. In fact, in just about any fight I can thnk of, my money’s on Ms Hamsher. BTW, my mother just got diagnosed with cancer, and the first thing she did on finding out is hop a plane to Venice with her new boyfriend. (She’s 80) If she tells me on her return that she wants to run for Congress, I’ll say you go gal!
John Casper — I agree - it was thrilling to watch. Check on The Wooden Championships at this site.
Here’s what I wrote to that idiot Jay yesterday (with which I am happy to see Jane agrees):
Jay:
You picked out the absolute worst comment to quote in your post. I read that comment earlier someplace (maybe here, I guess) and thought it was the stupidest thing I ever read.
What if your wife has just died, but one child is having an epileptic seizure, another child is about to receive the Nobel Peace Prize, and there is an anthrax scare in the neighborhood school? Do you just cower in the corner because your wife has just died. Do you abdicate all responsibilities?
What a coward! A selfish whimpering coward!
Certainly not fit to be President - or even, more importantly, a parent!
And if you know you’re going to die in two years, do you not want to try to achieve something that has some meaning - to you personally?
What could have more meaning that trying to get this country back on track? To know your spouse is the best medicine for an ailing country and to fight proudly for him - and for your country -until you can fight no longer. To set an example for your children to fight for what’s right, as long and as hard as you can.
I’m 62 years old - and I’m sick of the shrinking violets around me. Pathetic.
[I pity Jay Carney’s kids!]
Bravo, Ms. Hamsher. In terms of brains, heart, wit, and enlightenment, you might have written the best blog post I’ve read to date — anywhere. It cuts deep, in a lot of directions at once.
John Casper @ 58:
See you’re a college hoops from way back too. ACC background here. I’ve always sworn ACC kids were weaned on college hoops. Vic Bubas. Bones McKinney. Many years later, living in Brooklyn, I “watched” the second half of the game where NC State beat Houston for the NCAA championship over the phone with my dad.
Helen @
61
I was living in CT and working in manhattan when Rudy had his prostate treatment. It gave him a good excuse to drop out of the senate race as Hilliary was about to clean the floor with him…IM(not so)HO
david baerwald @ 72
Carney’s? that’s how I first read it.
wise move.
I like you mom.
This story of Robert Louis Stevenson comes to mind when I think of the extraordinary people, such as the Edwards, as they work for the good of all, even the cowards such as Limbaugh.
Stevenson grew up in Scotland around the turn of the century. His family lived outside a small town, and each evening he would look down upon the town and watch the lamplighter light each of the town’s street lamps. And he would say, “Look, mother, there is a man who punches holes in the darkness.”
This is how I feel about all of you doing yeoman’s work to bring us the light. And those who do this in spite of an illness are the bravest of us all. Thank you, Jane, for this diary. Take good care.
Basketball is the one where you throw the ball at the batter after the huddle, right?
And Adolf (Well named that) Rupp is the one who won 4 championships.
oooooh, Jane, you truly are the Lady of the Lake. Bless ya.
punaise @ 78
I like you mom.
I agree. And Punaise, how do you do that? Take things apart and insert your own words. If you have time and inclination, we could go to the last thread.
Jane, just joined to read your amazing post.
Do you have any idea how good you are — as a writer, as an analyst, as a human being? (Don’t answer that. The rest of the FDL community already knows.)
People react in different ways, and cope in different ways. And it’s nobody’s damn business how they do.
My dear wife has never stopped, not for one minute, since her breast cancer diagnosis 11 years ago. We flew around and obtained diagnoses and treatment suggestions from doctors in 4 countries (which were all consistent, except for one director of a cancer institute in Italy, who was out of date in one respect), and then selected the best possible treatment plan (which included research into the most up-to-date medical journals).
Then she got on with her life — teaching, advocating in her profession, flying hither and yon.
Her daughter flew to the US for her Mom’s surgery and saw not a moping sorry-for-herself mother, but a lady in firm control of her life. And daughter has seen that same action and activism for the past 11 years (not to mention the 50 or more countries Mom has visited during that time).
Life is too short to spend in bed or in regret.
The relationship with the Big C is an intensely personal one.
And it’s nobody else’s damned business how the person and her spouse choose to live their lives AC, just as it wasn’t BC.
John Casper @ 70
I was a student at UCLA for Wooden’s final year. I attended every home game. I don’t recall anyone ever booing John Wooden.
Helen @ 61
and
eCAHNomics @ 62
Yes - pathetically true.
In contrast Elizabeth is being “selfish” for living life to its fullest? I wonder who’s the better role model, as a parent?
What a ridiculous double standard.
I had twin great uncles who both died of Hodgkin’s lymphoma.
The first died at age 8.
The second died at age 88.
It’s a total and complete crapshoot as to why Uncle Johann went as he did, and Uncle Ohni went as he did, eighty years later.
Life is what happened in-between, during those eighty years, and boy howdy, did Ohni LIVE.
Figuratively, we’re all Johann and Ohni. LIVE, dammit.
John Casper @
70
Yeah, all because Philip Bond (I believe it was) missed his first free throws all year in the semi final game, allowing UCLA to escape Louisville. As a native Kentuckian, I watched in my favorite college bar in Bowling Green as all our dreams of a UK-UL champsionship disappeared. Total bummer!
Well, it looks like the Repub’s talking point is that the Dems are ignoring important issues the country is facing and instead focused on partisan distractions, like the US Atty forced resignations. That was Mona Charen, on CNN tonight, and Mr. I hate immigrants picked up on it. The Dem strategist was an idiot and did not push back. Here’s Bush version from his radio talk today:
They never let up. But the Janes are beating them.
Terry Olson @ 83
it all has to do with the placement of blockquote pairs. I’ll drop back to the prvious thread to elaborate in my non-techie way.
You know what, Jane?
That’s pretty much why John and Elizabeth got into politics.
You know about their son Wade, who died in a car accident in 1996? That’s what caused John and Elizabeth to think “What we’re doing with our lives right now feels irrelevant, the world is in a bad place so we think we’ll get into politics to see if we can fix all that.”
For Elizabeth to let John quit now would be to turn their backs on that decision.
A relative of mine died of breast cancer not long ago. She was married, with a pre-school son. When her husband heard the “C” word, he pulled a Gingrich; he couldn’t handle “her” problems, so he found a companion without them. Both continued to work in the same hospital.
My relative stayed at her hospital work for over two years, while single parenting. When she finally succumbed, she was dictating her own symptoms for her research colleagues to carry on with.
The Edwards made a brave choice, consistent with their lives rather than their politics. I think that’s what most frightens the Limbaughs and Bushes. It’s something they would never dream of doing, and wouldn’t know how if they did.
Good post Jane. I’m de-lurking during a commercial in the Bruins v. Jaywaks (23-29) game to give a shout out to people living with cancer. Beat it. We’re all puling for you; Elizabeth Edwards, our Jane, my friend from college living with complications from treatment for Leukemia.
Coolio
Scarecrow @ 89
Bush invokes the people’s business only when he wants to. 70% of those people want him to get out of Iraq. Where’s the people’s business there?
It must be really hideous to live one’s life and only be able to see and expect the most perverse and rotten traits people can possess. Anyone who has ever been loved or cared about doesn’t do that.
With cancer or any other life threatening illness,the disease belongs to the patient,no one else. They have to do what works best for them. And I would think that having a life full of joy and activity,treasuring every day as a gift would be a great choice most folks would take.
I’d want my kids to look back on my life and smile at what I did to be with them,as a vital,upbeat mom. Wouldn’t that be the best gift of all? To not become the disease or let it beat you down?
Rush isn’t just made uncomfortable by sick people,he’s scared shitless of them. I wonder,if Rush had cancer,would he have anyone there for him? Where is his devoted spouse of 30 yrs,his children,his family,his well wishers? At night,right before he falls asleep,when sleep comes,he’s the same scared little boy he’s been his whole life.
I’d almost feel sorry for him,but then I remember that he does what he does by choice. If he gave it all up tommorrow,he’s got plenty of money to live off of. So he doesn’t do it for the money,not anymore. It’s a concious choice on his part every day to be an evil shit. I don’t have much respect for that.
dakine01 @ 77
Uh-huh. And the beauty of that, IIRC, is that he didn’t cough up ANY of the $20-plus-million campaign kitty he’d raised for that race. Rick Lazio had to start from scratch.
Scarecrow @
88
Congress is gonna do the peoples business. Taking back this country from jackasses like Chimpy McFlightsuit, Abu Gonzales and Shooter.