
Four months ago, the national office of the Delta Zeta sorority, concerned that their DePauw University chapter's nerdy reputation was affecting recruitment, evicted all of that chapter's members who were overweight, minority, or otherwise not in conformance with stereotypical sorority norms of attractiveness. Only 12 of the chapter's 35 members remained, half of whom promptly resigned in protest. To add insult to injury, the national office justified its actions by claiming that the evicted women (who included the chapter president) were insufficiently committed to recruitment.
Three months later, after protests, petitions, and phone calls by the former chapter members, faculty, parents, and alumni, and after the Delta Zeta website trashed the evicted members and the faculty petitioners, DePauw's president kicked the sorority out.
So why do I bring this story up, other than that it made me sick? Because it reminds me of the US Attorney firings. In both cases, the purgers valued a hidden, unofficial standard (conventional attractiveness, willingness to elevate politics over law) far more highly than their public, official standard (friendship/personal growth, enforcement of law). And to conceal this unsavory reality, they shifted the blame to the purgees, slandering them as lazy or incompetent underperformers.
That second part is what really amazes me. By insulting the victims, they practically forced them to speak out, just to defend their own reputations. Rachel Pappas, the former secretary of the DePauw DZ chapter, printed posters inviting students to the student union to hear her side of the story. David Iglesias wrote an op-ed for the NYT explaining the real reason he was fired. Bud Cummins has talked openly not just about his own firing, but the firings of the other USAs as well. Margaret Chiara hasn't spoken out publicly, but is clearly upset about the potential damage to her reputation, and I suspect that she would have gone public had the DOJ not helped her obtain a new position.
The other problem with the incompetence rationale, especially where the US Attorneys are concerned, is that there is actual, tangible evidence to the contrary. Most of the fired Attorneys had a paper trail of glowing performance reviews, and colleagues who would willingly attest to their competence if asked. This also makes it even more difficult to keep the lid on - because even if the fired Attorneys are all good soldiers who will keep their mouths shut, there's no guarantee that their friends will be.
Obviously, there are significant differences between the two purges. As far as I know, the Delta Zeta national office was not urging the DePauw chapter to do anything unethical, and the impact was mostly limited to DePauw and Delta Zeta. But the coverup of dodgy motives, and the self-defeating callousness and carelessness with which the purges were carried out, those were very similar indeed.
Hopefully the outcome will be the same as well.
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TASIA SCOLINOS-UPI:THE GONZOGATE MEETING
Oklahoma kiddo @ 0
It was my second choice. Worth1000 hasn’t responded to my request for permission.
I almost had lurker luck, but I think I might have my virgin EPU.
EEWWW,ew,ew,ew. My eyes!
conniptionfit @ 3
The picture is always just as important as the words, if not more.
Hey Eli.
We are gonna smoke these bastards.
conniptionfit @ 5
Are you calling for ew? I think Marcy’s busy right now.
What a hideous and horrible thing to do to young women who probably struggle with body image and “popularity” issues to begin with.
My faith in human nature is somewhat restored in hearing that there were so many protests, petitions, and phone calls by the former chapter members, faculty, parents, and alumni that DePauw’s president kicked the sorority out. I’m just sorry it took three months to make the decision.
Is that Coulter’s body supporting Bush’s head?
egregious @ 5
I hope so. It’s hard for me to imagine 2008 being anything other than a bloodbath. And after 2006, I’m a little less afraid to be optimistic.
THAT is the ugliest woma…. oh wait.
dab_from_ct @ 7
Yep. I thought it was doubly cruel, because they had found a place where they were accepted and loved, and then the national office came in and told them to go fuck themselves.
EPU’d
But it has been bothering me that I had to factor out MI. That seemed just odd. So I finally woke up and asked how many USA’s are in Michigan. Well, there are two, East and West. It turns out, only two of the eighteen cases in MI were handled by the Western MI office, the remaining sixteen were handled by the Eastern office. So guess who ran the Western office. Surprise: None other than the former USA Margaret Chiara. Her democrat hit rate was actually very low, roughly half of the national average. (Her district had a population of roughly 3 million). This just reinforces the point that the fired USA’s did have a productivity issue and that the metric was: cases involving democrats.
When I attended Olbermann’s alma mater, a sorority was pressured by the national not to accept a Hispanic. The local disbanded and became a co-ed co-op with a well known fdl hothead as its first president.
Think globally, act locally. Or maybe somebody already said that.
Or was that think locally act globally? Shoot, I should have confirmed before deciding to work in Russia.
Being a mid 50s white man, I will let my vestigial sexism show in this respect. If I woke up next to someone looking like THAT, I would be like the wolf trying to get out of the trap and gnaw my arm off to get away.
YEEEECCCHHHH!
LATEST ADMINISTRATION EXCUSE FOR FIRINGS:
Attorneys were not in conformance with stereotypical norms of Justice Department attractiveness.
Mauimom @ 10
Egads! I don’t think Coulter ever looks that tanned.
LoudounLib @ 16
The legs aren’t skinny enough either.
That image is going to give me nightmares.
Howsa come we have ads for books by Tom “the Fuckhead” Delay and “Neal “I never met a wingnut I didn’t like” Boortz?
Just askin’.
Anybody else get the impression that the first out of the box to trash the USA’s was reacting without “further guidance” from the BigGiantHead? It was impulsive, and, in retrospect, it was their largest PR blunder in the whole affair.
Was it Sampson?
No. McNulty.
newtonusr @ 19
I dunno; trashing people is kinda their default position…
Eli @ 11
Yeah, short of a false flag, bay of tonkin kind of thingie. Which is why it matters if you think they did it the first time. Cui bono.
What amazes me (in both these cases) is how badly they were handled by people who ought to have known better. I mean these people had to know that what they were doing and their reasons for doing it weren’t acceptable-that’s why they tried to cloak their actions as something else. But look at how the attorneys were mishandled. These guys were all “loyal” to the extent that they were all preapred to go quietly-until some hamhanded twerp a) responded to a question about the didmissals by trashing the attorneys professional reputations/competance (thus reducing their chances of finding civilian employment), and b) calling them up and threatening to trash the attorneys publicly if they didn’t keep their mouths shut.
ick. still glad i never joined a sorority. well done, Eli.
OT–
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17778044/
From Frank Rich: “When Will Fredo Get Wacked?”
That is a VERY disturbing photograph.
conniptionfit @ 22
With all their skill at spin and porcine-lipstick-application, it amazed me that they couldn’t come up with a cover story that didn’t put the fired USAs on the defensive. I guess they figured they wouldn’t need to, because no-one would ask about the firings in the first place.
“a simple mistake”? Pardon my cynicism, but I don’t think so. Is this the plot? Or the prelude… to the plot?
The seizure of 15 British marines and sailors by Iranian forces just outside the disputed waters of Shatt al-Arab yesterday could be, as their commodore said, a simple mistake. Or it could be something more sinister. But whether by accident or by design, the incident adds yet another potent ingredient to the explosive mixture of factors that make our dealings with Iran so dangerous. On the eve of a UN security council vote to tighten the sanctions regime over Iran’s refusal to stop enriching uranium, there is now what looks like a hostage crisis. from the guardian today.
Looking now for word on progress of the Lewis-Foggo-Wilkes prosecutions by Lam’s temp replacement, Karen P. Hewitt.
I ain’t buying the ’simple mistake’ either, OK.
no tinfoil necessary at all.
newtonusr @ 28
Good luck with that…
kiotidada @ 4: We both were EPU’ed. I did respond to your comment.
Short version: Couldn’t believe I left out my dad’s beloved Everett Case and sure wish I’d been shagging balls for the Wolfpack.
Eli @
33
We might call and inquire.
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Is Marcy around? She (and many of you)are not gonna like the Sunday NYT Magazine cover story. All about Libby and leaks. Conclusion: Leaks are good. Fitzgerald caused harm to the Govt, and he made reporters look bad. (Ya think?) His last paragraph “Prosecutors of the realm, let this back-alley market flourish. Attorneys general and others armed with subpoena power, please leave well enough alone. Back off. Butt out.” Ironic, now that we know what we know about the current AG office, no?
She’s probably taking a crash course at the Karl Rove School of Tes-Ta-Liers
The Justice Department also said yesterday that Monica Goodling, a senior counselor to Gonzales who worked closely with Sampson on the firings, took an indefinite personal leave from her job on Monday. A Justice official said that she is still employed there but that it is not clear when she will return.
Goodling was the DOJ liaison to the White House
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01396.html
Eli @ 28
Well exactly. But was it just an accident of timing ( the election) that they got caught? Or is all this misdirection? What are we missing? What was the meta-goal? To hide Carol Lams firing? To prevent Carol from furthering the investigation of Jerry Lewis, et al? To create a “reliable” cadre of hardcore Democrat persecutors? What?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 30
It does look like the Brits might have been looking for an incident. They had stopped and were searching an Iranian flagged vessel when the Iranians surrounded them. And we are supposed to believe that said vessel wasn’t on their side of the waterway?
conniptionfit @ 35
I think it was that last one. Rove wants to push election fraud *hard* for 2008, and he wants all the USAs to be on board.
Ok… I have scanned all the comments over at TPMmuckraker on the latest DOJ doc dump. Ya a lazy Saturday where it sucked me in and could not get out until I hit the end…
What is so amazing is this is truly about Republicans eating their own. These USA’s where their bright new farm crop of Judges and future Congressmen and Senators. For a party that is in the low 30% that they would be willing to throw away loyal little soldiers is really telling.
That little point is why we will be hearing more and more from these US Attorneys, the impression is that they feel betrayed.
Margaret Chiara whined over and over again that she could not find a job, to have them change the reasons from performance and begging for another position with the government.
I’ve been worried about how the Republicans have managed to subvert elections since 2000 (too many ways to list them); the USA purge is yet another gun in their arsenal (among other effects of the removals, of course). How do we prevent election fraud in 2008 (and beyond)?? This has to be a top priority; nothing else will matter if they can steal elections!
‘Democrat’ Party needs to git off it’s ass and take care of this littel problem.
Cathy Martin?
How many white house flacks are named Cathrine Martin? is this the same Cathy Martin in Cheney’s “communications operation”… the one who testified in Libby trial?
Kevin Drum
FLAKKING PURGEGATE….Brad DeLong flags an email from last night’s document dump that was highlighted by one of Josh Marshall’s readers. A White House flak (Catherine Martin) wants to know who’s on the purge list and a DOJ flak (Tasia Scolinos) answers.
As Eli says, most of the ‘purgees’ had glowing reports. But isn’t it interesting that one of them–I’m pretty sure it was Kevin Ryan–wasn’t on the original list and was only added because a district judge was threatening some kind of action to force the DoJ to remove him because there had been numerous complaints about him in his district and in his office about poor management and poor performance.
I’m sorry, guys, I don’t remember exactly where I read about this–probably TPM, maybe ThinkProgress. But I was really struck by the fact that the one USA on the list who really had performance issues was only fired because a judge had gotten fed up with him and not the DoJ. They would have been happy to keep him.
I wonder what his “Bushie” rating was…
Hmmmm…
ccoaler @
2
How many more facts and how much more proof does Schumer think they need?
Helen @
36
Max Frankel was the author…Maybe getting senile?
pachelbelle @ 42
I’m actually surprised that they haven’t used him as “proof” that *all* the firings were for cause.
Eli @ 40
But all the election fraud is on the part of Diebold, ES&S and the Republican Party!
njr @ 44
Gee. The very same…
Mauimom @
10
No way. The body in the picture is curvy.
conniptionfit @ 46
No, I’m pretty sure that any time black people vote, it’s fraud.
Eli @
29
They only plan for the invasion. Not the reconstruction.
laurie9 @ 42
Move to all mail in ballots.
RealWorld @
14
Ding!
conniptionfit @ 51
Have they been taking over the post offices?
Guitar_Playing_Bastard @
21
Take their money and run.
Eli @
33
Maybe not? From the linked article:
She’s interim, sure, but if she was, indeed, Lam’s choice there might be some continuity. I’m assuming she’d have the support of the others in the office (and the FBI). Lam landed a very nice job; perhaps Hewitt’s continued investigation won’t be “chilled” by her fear of lack of future job prospects (unless she has a desire to work for the RNC or something).
egregious @ 15
Go Big Red! I was in Ithaca last year when they played Umass in the NCAA Men’s Lacrosse tournament. The Big Red didn’t know what hit ‘em. A Cornell alum, who apparently had played lacrosse there in the early sixties, said we just finished exam week and I think that in part is why there not playing well. Then he asked me, Did Umass just finish exam week? Never missing an opportunity to crack wise, I said, I don;t know if Umass HAS an exam week. I think that made him feel better.
OT–Neocon Zalmay Khalilzad is leaving Iraq now and is nominated to go the UN. His replacement will be Ryan Crocker, the current Ambassador to Pakistan. (doing such a fine job there too!) First “Zal” screws up Afghanistan, then Iraq and now the UN? good grief. Pretty telling that the “diplomat” *ahem* leaves as the escalation proceeds.
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap.....lilzad.php
they just keep circulating the same failures, around and around.
Lucy @ 55
I really, really hope so. I just can’t believe that they would get rid of Lam without first making sure her replacement would play ball.
Eli @
52
They’ve learned the tricks from the Newt…Whatever they’re hollering loudest about is what they’re doing themselves…
Lucy @ 58
Interesting. But take a look @ comment 55 - seems main Justice was steering cases between USA’s when regional factors should have countered. Looks like Michigan prosecutions by party were skewed somewhat…
well I went off topic downstairs with this post which is much more appropriate on this thread;
here’s what I’m going to get off to whoever is on the TEEvee tomorrow, and waxman before his hearings on monday (among other congressman);
both quotes referenced from think progress
The AP reports:
combined with this today
there is no way to parse these statements, they are clear, depraved, unadulterated, contemtuous, bold, in your face, up your butt, lies
(are there any other descriptive expressions for lies?…let me know)
waxman needs to use this data to say as follows;
[prefaced by the perennial IANAL]
“we are inviting the attorney general to appear within these halls of congress, without restraint in any form before this body to answer questions and bring us to terms with what appears to be deliberate lies and deliberate obstruction of justice.
if he refuses this generous offer from congress in performing our sworn oath to this body of legislation, we will be left with no choice but to refer this man to hearings of impeachment to begin 24 hours from the time of our next hearings which are scheduled for tomorrow.
he will be tried for impeachment in absentia until the time he appears, and if he does so appear willingly, he will take sworn oath, in public and on the record, and he will answer ALL question involving this and other issues that are of concern to our national security, our justice system and our law.
if said questions are felt of a classified nature by the attorney general, this body will hear testimony behind secure doors where WE, the body of congress will determine the extent of secret (on the record) testimony will take place.”
(he is welcome to edit and plaguerize my work if he likes)
The Gonzales 8 were in the top 1/3 of the US Attorneys in rating.
Also in my Saturday reading… there are up to 22 US Attorney vacancies which have not been officially filled with confirmed by the Senate. The trick was to put in the interim USA’s which would serve without consent of the home Senators or the full Senate until BushCo left office (if they every would)
USA - AZ Paul Charlton…. investigating Rick Renzi, Kolbe and there always has been tons on JD Hayworth being hip deep in the Abramoff swill.
Charlton was rated NUMBER ONE in the country per their rating system was not on the original list.
I am beginnig to see the start of a horrible catch-22. Congress puts forth charges of perjury and comtempt against DOJ officals and the DOJ refuses to prosucte. The only person who could break the impasse(Bush) is the one person who has the least motive for doing so. The Dem leadership needs to take a page from the Repugs and leave all options on the table, because the threat of impeacment is the only other thing that could get things moving. Add in the fact that Bush is the type who will bring everthing and everyone down with him and things look even worse.
DePauw’s…that refreshes
The surf gods found reason to recoil just about the time that picture went up top.
Eli caused twin earthquakes — 7.1 and 6.8. …check it out here
update…more now…
Helpless Dancer @ 66
I anticipated this within my quote, yes, the doj could actually refuse to prosecute alberto turture
that’s why they have to go straight to articles of impeachment
if he is “resigned” to avoid impeachment congress will have a number of options left
they could actually continue their trial of impeachment even though alberto torture was “resigned”
AND/or they would make CERTAIN the attorney general guaranteed an investigation with report of the former attorney general
In an ACLU Townhall in Phoenix last fall, John Dean said that everything BushCo does is for politics, 100% everyday, every act, totally 100% politics.
No thought about what is good for the government or the American People or the World.
Just politics
punaise @
67
Isn’t that the home of d’Quayle?
RealWorld @
14
I would still like to see a study of previous administrations, say from Ford through Clinton, each separate stats of course. This should prove quite useful in considering just how blind justice has been over time throughout the various administrations. I wonder if that’s possible. It certainly would seem so, since this should be public information, seeing as how all of it is done with our tax dollars.
katymine @ 65
Aren’t we supposed to issue a spew-alert when JD’s name is mentioned here?
More along the line of my paranoid thought processes, John Dean’s latest.
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20070323.html
my hoa is doing the same thing to my wife (and me) , been going on for a year and a half.. soon though our story will come out and with a year and a half worth of video tape… they have no idea
katymine @ 67
I don’t think that’s completely accurate. Some of it is about rewarding themselves and their friends.
Eli @ 56
Actually Oregon has had amazing sucess with this. First, it removes all those expensive, untrustworthy electronic voting machines. 2nd it removes the need/ expense for all those zillions of precinct polling places, staff for same, election judges for same, watchers for same. Concider who usually can find the time and interest to attend to these election day jobs in this increasingly electronic age: Little old retired ladies (bless ‘em!)-but what do most of ‘em know about electronics? No offense to the little old ladies (bless ‘em!), but it’s like setting sheep to guard the sheep!
anyway, it’s cheaper, easier (no more long lines!), and more secure.
Eli @
29
They only plan invasions, not the aftermaths.
off 2 bed
see all L8ter
punaise @ 67
There’s nothing quite as good as a bad pun and aren’t they all. Nice shot punaise, nice shot.
Do election results stand even if it is proven that there was fraud involved in the election?
Mauimom @
10
Coulter is a stick.
newtonusr @73…
Truly sorry…. he WAS my Congresscritter …
conniptionfit @ 54
This does not work, the ballots sit around for a long time without proper supervision and no guarantee if they are ever counted. Just mailing them doesn’t help, worse, it creates a false sense of security. It’s the counting and auditing that’s the huge problem. See Prof Avi Rubin’s blog for more on the *very important* issue of reliable election tabulation.
conniptionfit @ 74
I don’t dispute that. But if we went to vote by mail nationally, I *guarantee* you that the Republicans would be infiltrating post offices.
From Sean Penn today:
Mr. President, Mr. Cheney, Ms. Rice et al: Indeed America has a rich history of greatness -indeed, America is still today a devastating military superpower.
And because, in the absence of a competent or brave Congress, of a mobilized citizenry, that level of power lies in your hands, it is you who have misused it to become our country’s and our constitution’s most devastating enemy. You have broken our country and our hearts.
Fern @ 78
Something I wonder about myself. What would have happened if conclusive evidence came out (or comes out, even) that Bush really did steal the election in 2004?
was Cathy Martin gathering AG information for Cheney?
newtonusr @
50
Thanks, Eli.
That picture is gonna give me nightmares for weeks.
perris @ 69
Any investigation takes time and you know that they will do their utmost to drag things out. Time is not on our side and if these sleazebag avoid the disgrace that comes from criminal penalties, they will be back again, and again and again and again.
flory @ 86
Ex-cellent…
Watching Star Wars III - Revenge of the Sith…
Line….”So that is how Democracy dies… with thunderous applause”
How true… with Matthews saying that an investigation in the Gonzales 8 is political withc hunt and will hurt the Dems…. Y
a just because he says it is true it must be right?
Scarecrow @
27
Add this to the destruction of the Valerie Plame/Brewster-Jennings network and all of the other things that they probably did that we haven’t discovered yet…I think my head is going to explode!
This ain’t no way to protect us Amuricans!
Endangering our country from without and attacking our Constitution from within…
They (all of the G-D #%&*$!!$$$ neocons) are the Enemy–Foreign AND Domestic!
I hope the 29%ers are proud.
katymine @ 83
You poor dear. I thought I had it bad - I have Lantos.