
Carol Shea-Porter joins us today from a sickbed in DC. She had planned to be blogging from New Hampshire but she wasn't able to fly home. Let's keep on topic today and keep other subjects to the previous thread.
Most people in government are lawyers. Of the 42 men who have served as president 25 were lawyers. The 109th Congress included 218 members who said they were attorneys. There was something very refreshing and unique about speaking with Carol Shea-Porter the other day. More than almost anyone I've interviewed for Blue America, she felt like "just plain folks." Before she became the first woman ever elected to Congress from New Hampshire-- just 4 months ago-- she... wasn't a lawyer; she was a social worker and a grassroots citizen-activist.
"I'm looking at the problems Congress is facing through that prism... how does this impact ordinary people. What is the difference between policy intent and delivery and does this get us there?"
I'd been trying to get Congresswoman Shea-Porter on the phone since last summer. She was too busy fighting an uphill battle, first against the state Democratic Establishment to win the nomination-- she beat the Democratic State House leader who was very much supported by our old pal Emanuel-- and then against an entrenched rubber stamp Republican doofus, Jeb Bradley. Since then, she's been busy trying to save the country. "I miss the serenity of the campaign," she told me, only half in jest. Before I could even ask her a question, once I did get her on the phone, she was off and running about one of the biggest passions that caused her to challenge both parties' establishments and run for Congress: Bush's catastrophic war in and disastrous occupation of Iraq.
Like every progressive member I spoke with in the last two weeks, Ms. Shea-Porter had gone through a great deal of anguish about supporting the Emergency Supplemental Spending Bill which authorizes spending over $100 billion dollars on Bush's war, while attempting to put him on some kind of a leash (setting real benchmarks, establishing tough readiness standards for deploying U.S. troops abroad and requiring the withdrawal of American combat forces by the end of August 2008). The congresswoman was once escorted out of a public event for wearing an anti-Bush/anti-war t-shirt. She's not one of those phony Inside-the-Beltway pols making believe they oppose the war while supporting it. This was a tough decision -- and a heartfelt one. The pragmatist in her won out.
"Would I want a tougher leash? Yes, but I'm happy we're sending a powerful message out to the world. One of my colleagues who I spoke to about this told me about the Cheney Rule -- how would Dick Cheney want me to vote?"
Yesterday she urged her colleagues to support the bill. Watch her kick some GOP ass in the 60 seconds she was allotted during the debate:
Above and beyond the refreshing approach she brings to the congressional table, there is a verve and a humanity, even poetry, that is embodied by her service so far. She says she is doing her best to reflect the will and the needs of New Hampshire's first congressional district.
"It has been an honor for me to vote to raise the minimum wage, to vote to take away unjust oil subsidies, to vote to allow for negotiations on the price of prescription drugs for our elderly, to vote to cut the interest rate in half for student loans, to vote to protect America's veterans and to improve healthcare for them and for our children. It's time to spend money in this country, on our people, instead of on a war in Iraq."
When I asked the congresswoman what had surprised her most about the realities she has bumped up against in her new job, she said it was that she's had "no problem keeping an independent voice." Ah, ha, thought I. What about your decision to run your re-election as another grassroots campaign without any help from the DCCC. That's unheard of. Emanuel must have had a fit. He didn't. This is what the bane of grassroots Democrats told Carol Shea-Porter at their meeting about her decision.
"You know your district better than anyone else. You won."
That she did. In the primary, she kicked his candidate's ass with only $17,000 and then, outspent 5-1 by the incumbent, she wound up as one of the only challengers in the country to unseat a Republican with less than a $1,000,000. Her campaign, in fact, spent under $300,000!
Now Bradley is trying to take back the seat and he and the Republicans-- one of the dirtiest GOPs anywhere in the U.S.-- along with their media allies have launched a full scale war against Congresswoman Shea-Porter. This article in the Hampton Union attests to the unrelenting Republican attack on her, above and beyond what they've done with almost any other freshman congressperson anywhere.
A couple weeks ago she won Russ Feingold's Pick A Progressive Patriot, which included a $5,000 purse. She's going to need a lot more than that if she's going to hold onto her very evenly split district. Last week we had an impromptu Blue America townhall meeting at Firedoglake and we selected 5 members of Congress who we felt were keeping the promises on which they had run.
We sent gratitude checks of $200 each from the Blue America PAC to Jerry McNerney, John Yarmuth, John Hall, Paul Hodes and to Carol Shea-Porter. They were symbolic. Today I'd like to ask everyone to join me in helping make sure we keep someone who is proving to be a national treasure in Congress. It's going to take more than symbolism. Because we are many, even small donations of $5 or $10 will help send the congresswoman back into battle armed to meet the Big Money challenge that Bradley poses. Here's where to do it or you can send a check to Blue America, P.O. Box 27201, Los Angeles, CA 90027.
Many of us have read Joe Conason's powerful new book, It CAN Happen Here. Joe has been generous enough to send Blue America a box of them, autographed, and the first contributors today will each get one of the signed books (until the box is empty).
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Carol!
Welcome!
Howie!
Welcome to Rep. Shea-Porter and congratulations on your campaign victory. We are honored to have you join us today.
Welcome Congresswoman Shea-Porter
(and congrats to conniptionfit for the zed)
Even though I am a little under the weather my spirits are very high and I’m proud of the message congress sent to the Bush administration and to the world yesterday.
Let’s talk.
Howie-Carol-Jane!
Carol, welcome to FDL. We’ve wanted to have you on for a long time. You’ve been doing a great job in Congress and I think I speak for the whole community when I say “THANK YOU.”
Welcome.
Why is NH trending increasingly blue? People moving up from MA, W’s disastrous policies, other items, or all of the above? Depending on your answer, how can Ds cement a permanently blue NH?
Welcome, Carol!
howieklein @
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Nancy Pelosi said this was not going to be a drive by Congress anymore. She has us working 5 days a week, like everybody else and I think the accomplishments that have come out of Congress reflect that commitment to do the peoples work.
Blue America donations:
I’m in.
Carol, I just donated on Howie’s DWT site and love your 60 second clip. I also saw Joe C in the Bay Area earlier in the month. His best one-liner for Lieberfraud was “his ambitions are WELL beyond his competence”.
WELCOME TO FDL! Thanks for playing.
Hey Congresswoman. Thank you for coming to see us from your sick bed today!
One question I have to ask — what exactly was on that tee shirt of yours to get you kicked out of the BushCo rally????
eCAHNomics @
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New Hampshire citizens have recognized that the administration’s policies have been disastrous for what I call the bottom 99% of us. I told people I was running “for the rest of us” and that it didn’t matter if you were a Republican, Independent or a Democrat we were not being heard by this administration. The people of New Hampshire understand that “the middle class is stumbling and the poor have fallen” and they want representatives who will work for them. That is why we are trending blue, and I believe we will stay blue because we are truly representing the people’s interest.
More than most of the folks we’ve invited on, Carol needs the grassroots financial support. Hers is a campaign that we all pray all congressmembers would run. Let’s be extra generous today. I see we’re off to a great start; we already doubled Carol’s Act Blue total in the first 15 minutes. Tomorrow John Amato and I are seeing a bunch of DCCC honchos and we are eager to show them what netroots support can mean for a congressmember who keeps her word the way Carol has. Dig deep (I never said that before).
Congresswoman,
Do you see these candidates such as BillHillary losing punch in the dialog in Washington? It seems to me, living in the “Hinterlands” that people are very cynical about the quintessential “politician.” How about those inside the beltway? Do they really get a sense of the voter is maybe fed up with business as usual in the political arena? Or, are they so insular, change is never going to really happen? Do they hear the cheers from the Hinterlands when someone takes a bold, agressive stand?
Very interesting answer @15, because you didn’t mention the war. If economics (or eCAHNomics), particularly income distribution, is the critical problem for your district, can you give a little detail–what is local economy? Any electronics, being not far from Rte 128? If electronics, why worry? Or is your district as diversifed as the country as a whole and just suffering from the fat-cats-take-all syndrome?
Jacqrat @ 14
It important to note that I stayed for the whole event, I was completely quiet, respectful and sat in the back. Indeed no one knew we were there until some people who had a problem with the first amendment bothered us. The T-shirt had the name of an organization on it, all it said their name “Turn your back on Bush”.
We were quietly leaving after the event was over when some unidentified man pushed me out a door, scaring the heck out of me and then making me realize that we needed to work for change.
I’m in. Thanks for all you’re doing. As I said last week, I think we’d be better off if more of our congresspersons were people who’ve been kicked out of a Bush event for wearing the wrong t-shirt. :-)
First of all, get well soon. I am one American that is so pleased with what you are doing for our country. You are helping to put the word “Proud” back into the phrase “Proud to be an American” Thank you! Sandy Grossman-Morris
howieklein @ 16
I’m in, Howie. Thank you.
Just sent you some luv through Act Blue.
What do you expect to happen with the Iraq Appropriations Bill, assuming the Senate passes it and W vetoes? Does he really expect that the House will pass HIS bill????
Welcome Congresswoman! I’m interested to know if you and your colleagues are as alarmed as most of us are about the actions of the administration concerning their unitary executive power grab activities and global agenda. Do you feel confident that our constitution and the maneuvering of Congress will be able protect our country from falling into a total and permanent dictatorship of the military industrial complex? Thanks.
Redshift @ 20
I think the majority of our fellow citizens have finally gotten the message. I’d say most people are indeed turning their backs on Bush. It will be very interesting to see what happens when he vetoes the Supplemental and goes to the public crying that the Democrats hate the troops.
Puesto @
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If you are asking if Congress is in touch the answer from where I’m sitting on the Democratic side of the isle is absolutely, especially in the Freshman class. I constantly hear my Freshman colleagues start sentences with “my district says”. People travel home to their districts every weekend after a full 5 days here so they can stay in touch and I think the legislation coming out of the House shows that we are listening.
conniptionfit @ 1
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Redshift @ 20
From watching the ‘04 campaign trail it really wouldn’t be THAT hard to find 435 folks who HAD been either thrown out or denied access to a GOP-staged event!
Thank you again, Carol for standing up and fighting back!
Blue America down right now…
Thank you so much, Carol!
LS @ 24
I think this is the most important issue not only of our times but in two generations
we are at the door of monarchy and the seperate branches of government MUST be maintained
snow, the president’s spokeperson actually had the NERVE to say congress has no oversight authority over the presidency…this is actually what our president believes
My aunts, uncles, and cousins send you their greetings from Hampton!
LS @ 24
We are concerned about the overreach and we recognize that Congress is a separate and equal co-branch of the Government. I can’t say enough about the Freshman class that I am honored to serve with. We fought the opposition very hard and took a lot of hits and the reason we did it is that we believe that change is needed.
karen allen @ 31
Karen, LOVED your DWT post on a much different freshman Congressperson, Michele Bachmann.
Carol, do the “Freshman” kind of stick together at all? Obvious exceptions noted.
Sandy Grossman-Morris @ 21
Which scandals are you most concerned about? The tobacco settlement issue is a costly one, huh?
What can Congress do to genuinely get us out if Iraq. Yesterday was a first, very small step. But there are something like 15 separate bases dug in over there — and they’re meant to last. Opposing this war means opposing Big Oil. Not easily done. What say you?
donation complete. Thank you for your work!
Signed, Inspired in Seattle
Carol, Prior to the vote yesterday both sides presented many speakers. It was clear to CSPAN viewers that the Dems were extremely well organized in addressing the criticism of this bill by the other side. I thought Patrick Murphy, Steny Hoyer, John Murtha and David Obey were especially good. Their stock went up in my book.
I’m sure pulling this caucus together was not easily accomplished. Many Americans and their representatives think withdrawal should start immediately.
Patrick Murphy made a basic and powerful point which I rarely hear stated. What is our mission there? We heard about WMD and 9/11, neither of which were valid.
I’m happy to see some progress in the political process, George Bush’s intent to veto notwithstanding. Mostly, I’ll be happy when we realize results. In politics, this is a win. In life, the men and women are still in Iraq, with more arriving everyday, and for no clearly stated and valid purpose.
Thanks for joining us, Ms. Shea-Porter, and thanks for your leadership in holding the administration accountable and toward ending the Iraq occupation.
It was my pleasure to meet you in DC after the Plame hearing, and I’m delighted you could make the time to join us today.
eCAHNomics @
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It certainly is the war also, but if the administration thinks it is just about the war they are absolutely wrong. New Hampshire people of both parties care about their fellow citizens, they want a moral budget that shows our best face to the world, they care about whether their neighbors have the opportunity to go to good schools and earn a fair wage. They want representatives who will vote for the environment, for their health care, for veterans, and believe in oversight and accountability. The people of New Hampshire, having the first Presidential Primary, are politically very aware and are well versed on both National and State the issues.
Thank you, Congresswoman, for showing us all a way to fight not only the GOP, but the laggards in our own party. Great to have you on board!
Welcome to the Lake Congresswoman,
As an activist in MA I have to say that your campaign was so under the radar that I hardly knew it was happening. (Then again, some of us were spending all of our spare time in CT working for Ned). Obviously the next campaign will be much louder and more intense. In addition to sending you money, which many of us are doing today and will continue to do, what can we who are outside of NH do to help you push the progressive agenda and get you reelected?
Also, Is there any hint that the House is looking at drawing up articles of impeachment against the Atty. General?
Neil @ 38
I was never prouder to be a Democrat than I was yesterday on the floor listening to those speeches.
NH primaries–the joke being that voters won’t cast ballot for anyone they haven’t personally met at least three times!
Midtown Manhattan, where I live, is completely ignored in national politics, Guiliani notwithstanding. (Local buzz on him is negative–we know what he really did after 9/11 & the glow is gone.)
Rep. Shea-Porter. Welcome to the Lake. Nice to see we’re finally getting our country back. Hope to see a lot more of you on the House floor. Also nice to see a non-lawyer up there. TF, BSW, 1981.
Carol Shea-Porter @ 43. “I was never prouder to be a Democrat than I was yesterday on the floor listening to those speeches.”
Me too.
Carol Shea-Porter @ 43
And I was so proud to be a progressive listening to your own 60 seconds. That’s why I included the YouTube of it in this post. Speaker Pelosi’s office sent it to us.
I tried Blue America again, no luck. Anybody else?
David Ehrenstein @ 36
Well first of all I think it was a big step. The majority of the House of Representatives told the President that it wants and end to this war and set a no-later-than date. The Democrats will be watching this closely and providing accountability and oversight every step of the way.
It is my great hope the the Iraqi people will be able to figure out what their responsibility to one another and to their nation is after we leave. I believe they should be the ones to determine the future of their oil industry.
Terry, Blue America worked for me, maybe 2:10. Is it a broken link or an issue once you get to the site? Thanks.
Terry Olson @ 48
The contributions have been coming in. Just keep trying. The rate of donations is faster than usual so it may just be a little clogged. Don’t give up, Terry. And a reminder for anyone else: Blue America is right here.
Hi, Carol -
From a very grateful, proud and supportive constituent!
Delighted to see you on one of my favorite blogs!
Terry Olson @ 48
I had no problem about 10 minutes ago.
Errands call. Keep up the good work Rep. Shea-Porter and we’ll keep up with you.
Get well quickly.
RevDeb @ 42
Continue to do what you do so well already - to answer the false attacks, explain what the issues are, the votes, and the reasoning behind them.
Regarding the Atty General, people inside Congress are following the story in the news just as closely as you are.
egregious @
50
One said credit card refused, called American Express cuz it freaked me out, and they said no tranactions had been tried. Used another, and it gave a message about the site. I try again.
Carol,
I just left a small token of my appreciation at your Blue America link.
Howie, how are the Conason books holding up? This would be a very nice addition to my growing collection of “Blue America Swag Home Decor”
OT but it looks like there is another Hatch act issue percolating up. The good news is Waxman is already on it.
GSA
With the Inspector General asking for a special prosecutor perhaps there is a chance that we can start to get some testimony on who is inspiring all these violations of the Hatch Act. I find it hard to believe that they are the result of spontaneous combustion.
Committee Hearing Schedule
Welcome Congressman Shea- Porter. I am one of your constituents.
I want to ask you about the smear those two republican women (along with the Union Leader)- the ones who claimed you were aggressive or disrespectful to them over the phone when you responded to one of their challenges about troop support. (I hope I have stated the basic event correctly.) First, is this ridiculous faux kerfuffle over with? Besides the Union Leader - what did you think of the media coverage of this. I hope have received public support for your position, and finally, its obvious the GOP is gunning for you - how are you preparing yourself for further swiftboat attacks from the state and national GOP?
May I add I spent all day election day hold a CSP sign at a polling booth (kept an appropriate distance). A republican organizer who was holding a Bradley sign came up to me in the middle of the day and said your campaign was the best run campaign she had ever seen during her decades of political activism (she herself had run for state office several times). You have really got the GOP thinking…
howieklein @
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Yes, thanks again for that link. Some rightwingnut has the usual stone age comment up, so if anyone feels like clicking through to youtube both votes and comments could use some sunshine. Seems to be quite the delay on, as I popped it about an hour ago and “sabaticl” is not up yet with instructions on getting their head out of…
karen allen @ 31
Hi Karen! “You’ve Got Mail!”
Jacqrat @ 56
I haven’t been watching the books so I’m not sure if we’re out or not yet. I did notice we’re almost at $1,000. I’ll match the donation that puts us over a thousand.
I want to thank everyone for their comments and their constant effort to help our country fulfill its promise. While things look dark at times I have eternal optimism. I look around at the representatives that America has sent to bring change and my faith is restored. Working together is the key to putting our great nation back on track. Let’s stay connected and united!
Talk to you again soon
Carol
PS (Re: 58). I know how vicious the attacks can be but this one was particularly nasty. These people had asked me to contact them, and even though I knew exactly who they were I still thought it was the fair thing to do because I called others who had family in Iraq. That was one of the times when I asked myself “what’s a nice social worked like you doing in a business like this.” :)
I do know why I’m here though. I’m here because good people like you put me here to speak up for the rest of us. Thank you for giving me that great honor.
Greetings from NH and thanks for working hard.
-GSD
As one of your constituents (Exeter) and supporters, I assure you that I write letters, too. The Stratham Stepford Wives can write all the letters they want, it won’t bring Jeb Bradley, his empty suit and his rubber stamp back to The House without a plane ticket and a visitor’s pass.
Thanks for spending time with us, Carol. Get well soon. Drink plenty of fluids and keep away from sugar. I want to also thank Carol’s staff– Harry in DC and David back in New Hampshire for all the help and coordination. They both have the flu too!
By the way, next week we’ll be meeting from 1PM (est) until 3PM instead of the usual 2PM- 4PM. That’s so we can accommodate Jerry McNerney’s schedule. He’s eager to come back on and tell us what he’s been up to since he was here last.
I tried to make a contribution, but the server says it has a problem. Is there a problem, or did I enter something wrong?
O/T Whats going on in the Texas Youth detention facilities? Did it start with Gov. Bush and A.Gonzales when they were in Texas?
Extention of time and Physical and sexual abuse??? Saw an article in the blogs yesterday. Can’t find it today.
Also, am I the only person who cant access C & L today?
masaccio @ 67
Try again. The donations are coming in slowly but surely and the pipes must be clogged
Terry Olson @ 35
scandal isn’t the right word for this, this is stealing and nothing less
Will do.
Not really OT:
Are there any Ebay wizards out there who would like to contribute some of their time and expertise to help raise some serious fundage to help launch the Blue America Speaker’s Bureau?
Please email me at “My FDL handle” AT mindspring DAHT com
We’re also looking for dedicated folks to help organize, so if you have time and skills, let us know. Thanks!
masaccio @ 67
Try this: Carol’s Blue America Donation Link
now that we’ve found in the 18 days of “missing” emails that not only did abu gonzales know about the attorney firings, he played an important role orchestrating the events as they transpired
there is no questin he lied to congress under oath, there is no parsing his testimony on the record
we need to impeach this criminal which will set the tone for the proper course of action should the president continue to defy subpeona and our law
once we impeach abu gonzales it will be clear to the administration they cannot defy our law and they cannot prevent congress from performing their sworn obligation to our constitution
Well, it was me, can’t quite read my Blue Amex card.
perris @ 74
And once that happens, doesn’t the administration lose it’s argument that Rove and Meirs don’t have to testify under oath because there isn’t a “criminal” investigation?
Pat @
68
Works here. Occasionally I have had to close or switch to a different browser. Firefox worked 4 me.
It’s a quiet day here at the lake. Some of the late night crowd is still sleeping in after staying up late to read pages upon pages of DOJ emails from the most recent document dump.
Have you heard? Gonzalez lied again. I don’t know if he said this to Congress under oath but he did claim at a presser that he did not know the details of the US Attorney terminations. He said that his deputy was in charge of it and that he himself should have been more involved. The email indicates he was closely involved; he attended a meeting to plan the terminations. Gonzalez is the fall guy. They want him to dangle as long as possible to insulate responsible White House personnel: Honest people have no fear of testifying under oath.
The President made two appearances this week to make public statements. One was to claim there is no indication of any wrongdoing in the USA terminations: “No indication” I guess they’ve scrubbed the documents thoroughly. The second appearance was to state his intent to veto the Emergency Appropriations Bill and to mischaracterize it. I wonder how he plans to blame the democrats for no funding if he vetoes it. The Dems should take a page out of Bush’s book. Send him another bill after his veto that’s even tougher than the first.
The President and his administration have the right to pursue their policies but they have no authority to break the law, or interpret the law so as to subvert it. This is not politics as usual. This is a Constitutional crisis, to wit: suspension of habeas corpus, warrant-less wiretapping, presenting fraudulent evidence for Iraq war authorization, conspiracy to publicize classified information about a covert CIA agent working on non-proliferation of nuclear weapons; financing a preemptive and illegal war with our children’s tax dollars. Please make it stop.
Howie, in the last hour, we had 2774 visitors, according to the sitemeter. We raised about $1200. We need to think about how to do better. I continue to urge you to consider mining data at ActBlue to see who the big contributors are, those who can help seriously with the giving. Carol Shea-Porter will have to raise a lot of money, and we need to make that doable.
masaccio @ 79
We’re at $1,320 already and that indicates that this could be a $2,000 weekend for her. I suspect that by the time the election rolls around Blue America’s contribution will be up around $30,000.
Thanks for standing up Carol, you make cynics like me smile a lot..and send money
Thanks Howie for hosting this and the wonderful introduction at the top. I was too busy helping Carol keep up responding to the comments to read it before we started. It’s a beautiful piece that both captures the spirit of our campaign and her time in Congress so far!
So.. what would happen if Nancy told Bush “This is the only emergency spending bill we intend to put forward- you can sign it or not, but this is the best deal you’re going to get.” Or “The next emergency spending bill will be a bill that provides only money specifically earmarked for the transport of personel and materiel one way from Iraq to the US”? I mean, it’s a supplemental for the military, not for the entire government. Does Bush have the authority to shift $ around from other budgets to cover his shortfall in Iraq?
Cong. Porter-Shea, thanks for making a difference —
It appears that it was the political PARTY apparatus (specifically Repubican state PARTY chairs), who were whining to Karl Rove about ‘voter fraud’. This seems to have set in motion events that led to the firing of US attys with the integrity to stand up to Karl Rove.
I see increasing anecdotal evidence that this brazenly partisan behavior has antagonized even former Bush supporters. This is really THE last straw among a couple of people that I know, but is that what you also see in NH?
Do you find that many of your constituents actually APPRECIATE the fact that you don’t seem to be in thrall to EITHER party? Because increasingly, it feels as if government has become One Long Perpetual Political Campaign, and it’s disgusting.
I come to ActBlue in hope that it will empower good candidates to stand up to bad policies and bullies, but also to stand up to the K Street mentality that is ruining this nation. Do you encounter much sentiment like mine among your NH voters?
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BTW: For anyone unsure about contributing, Joe Conason’s book is superb. What he has to say is chilling, but it is extremely useful background.
Howie, thanks for being “outcomes focused” as always! And speaking of outcomes, I have a timeline that’s tardy by 5 days… more later…
howieklein @ 80
Something seems wrong with these numbers. It doesn’t help much to give the number of visitors to the site. Some may just be trying to keep tabs on the rate of growth of the contribution. Others to peek at the site to determine whether to use it or send money via another route. We surely did not have more than 2000 donors just give $1200.
With the FDL Community at roughly 200,000 strong we should expect something more along the order of $100,000 or more.
Welcome, Ms. Shea-Porter. Your victory was one of the more satisfying ones last November. It seems a petulent and confrontational Bush will veto the spending bill. Can it be made clear to him that this is the best bill he’s going to get and if he vetoes it the next one, if there is s next one, might have tougher restrictions?
Of course the Senate has not spoken yet, nor has the inevitable conference committee, but I wonder if Bush’s veto threat isn’t itself political theater. The public is firmly on our side in this. Do you think now is the time to stand firm, saying we have gone this far in compromise , but no further?
How did one T-shirt capture so much attention? Was it wet? Don’t answer that.
My fantasy is not about wet T-shirts but rather about having more politicians like Carol Shea-Porter. Carol, you are delightful. I sure am glad a kick-ass lady like you is on our side and not the Repugs. Keep up the good work. You probably picked up another 50,000 to 100,000 new supporters since yesterday. Welcome, and best wishes for a speedy recovery and a promising future.
conniptionfit @ 83
Unfortunately, Bush does not care what “authority” he actually has. He will do whatever he wants, legal or not, misuse of authority or not. That is the essential dilemma we face in attempting to force a withdrawal of troops.
Morris- Well, yeah, but the constitution IS very clear that any and all monies have to be appropriated through the House. I wasn’t asking if Bush would be willing to weasel around it, I was asking if there were any legal avenues for him to get his hands on already appropriated money.
Morris Sheppard @ 88
you speak the absolute truth
he claims power the founding fathers insisted be wit held from the executive and then he dares congress to do something about it
congress is too tepid and they are allowing this administration grab power that have the architects of our constitution turning in their graves
this administration takes power, then claims it always had the power, then corporate media repeats the rubbish.
these are challenging tmes
Howie: can you look at the actual contributors on ActBlue?
Carol, thanks so much for being here today. Your courage and conviction are an inspiration.
New thread upstairs.
Pat @
68
It tok me most of the day but was able to get in about an hour ago…
I just made a contribution and couldn’t not be happier. It is people like Carol, and Patrick that enable me to continue to be a proud member of the democratic party.
conniptionfit @ 89
Probably not. But look at Iran-Contra, which was in direct violation of the Boland amendment. Bush’s gang would not hesitate to make that bunch of lawbreaking look like cheating at a game of go fish.
However, making them cheat, and perhaps cheat openly, does have political advantages.
masaccio @ 79
Please. This is not about dollars. This is about votes. If it’s dollars they will win every time. Big donors are big *owners*.
I’m in, too. ActBlue rules.
Thanks for coming over today Congresswoman Shea-Porter! And thanks for swimming in the DC waters for us - the only way to clean-up that cesspool is for decent representatives to take the leap.
Hotflash: I totally disagree. First, Shea-Porter raised $300,000. It came from somewhere. I am one of those somewheres.
Second, there are a number of races where serious money would make a difference. I gave a lot of money to Victoria Wulsin, and she came close. She raised about $600K. That was barely competitive with Jean Schmidt. Another $200K would have made a big difference.
We cannot change anything until we elect more people like Shea-Porter and Wulsin. We need to put our money where our mouth is.
Even if you are right that donors are owners, it will be best if we are the owners and not giant corporations.