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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/23/oh-the-irony/#comment-581714</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Democrat’s continue to behavior rather oddly when it comes to Iraq. We can almost see the strings being pulled in the background. Yesterday, even “liberals” signed on to the Iraq funding bill–no one really knows what it accomplishes– while the approach from Murtha, a very conservative representative that by all accounts channels the thinking of the military could not get enough support from Democrats.&lt;br /&gt;
I don’t think it quite fair or accurate to claim in this post: “John Barrow and Jim Marshall, as well as other Blue Dogs who watered down the bill and insisted on taking language regarding Iran” out.&lt;br /&gt;
While it was always clear that supporting conservative Republicans that run as Democrats would cause the Party to behave erratically, can’t we agree that is not what happened here.&lt;br /&gt;
From the run up to the war, the war itself and now with civil war raging, our Democratic leaders have behaved erratically. What’s up?&lt;br /&gt;
Just when you think we might get some honesty, they all scurry to the AIPAC convention and sure enough, almost magically we get a watered-down, meaningless bill while conservative Murtha becomes a far-out liberal. It is surreal to watch.&lt;br /&gt;
Every Democratic presidential contender should be asked about the role of this lobby as it relates to a balanced foreign policy in this critical region. How much money do they accept from what is essentially a foreign lobby?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html&quot;&gt;http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
From the article: “The bottom line is that AIPAC, a de facto agent for a foreign government, has a stranglehold on Congress…&lt;br /&gt;
“In 1997, Fortune magazine asked members of Congress and their staffs to list the most powerful lobbies in Washington. AIPAC was ranked second behind the American Association of Retired People, but ahead of the AFL-CIO and the National Rifle Association.”&lt;br /&gt;
Rather than the Bluedogs, isn’t it much more likely that at the recent AIPAC convention, Democrats were given the parameters of this legislation that extends the carnage, postpones the tough decisions, and wastes lives. This has been a Profile in Cowardice moment.&lt;br /&gt;
Can anyone else explain why Democrats are so far behind the American people on this issue? While you are at it, explain why Murtha, the military guy, is lock-step WITH the American people.&lt;br /&gt;
If it is not undue pressure from lobbyist with a vested interest, what is the explanation?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democrat’s continue to behavior rather oddly when it comes to Iraq. We can almost see the strings being pulled in the background. Yesterday, even “liberals” signed on to the Iraq funding bill–no one really knows what it accomplishes– while the approach from Murtha, a very conservative representative that by all accounts channels the thinking of the military could not get enough support from Democrats.<br />
I don’t think it quite fair or accurate to claim in this post: “John Barrow and Jim Marshall, as well as other Blue Dogs who watered down the bill and insisted on taking language regarding Iran” out.<br />
While it was always clear that supporting conservative Republicans that run as Democrats would cause the Party to behave erratically, can’t we agree that is not what happened here.<br />
From the run up to the war, the war itself and now with civil war raging, our Democratic leaders have behaved erratically. What’s up?<br />
Just when you think we might get some honesty, they all scurry to the AIPAC convention and sure enough, almost magically we get a watered-down, meaningless bill while conservative Murtha becomes a far-out liberal. It is surreal to watch.<br />
Every Democratic presidential contender should be asked about the role of this lobby as it relates to a balanced foreign policy in this critical region. How much money do they accept from what is essentially a foreign lobby?<br />
<a href="http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html">http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html</a><br />
From the article: “The bottom line is that AIPAC, a de facto agent for a foreign government, has a stranglehold on Congress…<br />
“In 1997, Fortune magazine asked members of Congress and their staffs to list the most powerful lobbies in Washington. AIPAC was ranked second behind the American Association of Retired People, but ahead of the AFL-CIO and the National Rifle Association.”<br />
Rather than the Bluedogs, isn’t it much more likely that at the recent AIPAC convention, Democrats were given the parameters of this legislation that extends the carnage, postpones the tough decisions, and wastes lives. This has been a Profile in Cowardice moment.<br />
Can anyone else explain why Democrats are so far behind the American people on this issue? While you are at it, explain why Murtha, the military guy, is lock-step WITH the American people.<br />
If it is not undue pressure from lobbyist with a vested interest, what is the explanation?</p>
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		<title>By: Lyrebird</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/23/oh-the-irony/#comment-581470</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyrebird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 12:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-580904&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dev Tobin @&lt;br /&gt;
                105              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Just to set the record straight on Mike McNulty, my congressman, he voted “no” with Kucinich, Waters, Woolsey, etc., NOT with the Blue Dogs or the Bushites.&lt;br /&gt;
…&lt;br /&gt;
Sounds like Mike wants the war to end yesterday, doesn’t it?
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&lt;p&gt;Thank you, Dev, I was suspecting the same thing, since McNulty co-sponsored a “leave Iran alone!!” bill like, over a year ago maybe?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;His/our district has already had enough returning coffins.  I have written several letters over the past few years to our junior senator (who’s now running for pres) asking why she couldn’t see things as clearly as one not-so-famous rep…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am very proud of him and of Pelosi too!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-580904"><em>Dev Tobin @<br />
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<blockquote><p>Just to set the record straight on Mike McNulty, my congressman, he voted “no” with Kucinich, Waters, Woolsey, etc., NOT with the Blue Dogs or the Bushites.<br />
…<br />
Sounds like Mike wants the war to end yesterday, doesn’t it?
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<p>Thank you, Dev, I was suspecting the same thing, since McNulty co-sponsored a “leave Iran alone!!” bill like, over a year ago maybe?</p>
<p>His/our district has already had enough returning coffins.  I have written several letters over the past few years to our junior senator (who’s now running for pres) asking why she couldn’t see things as clearly as one not-so-famous rep…</p>
<p>I am very proud of him and of Pelosi too!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/23/oh-the-irony/#comment-581100</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 03:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You know, when do we just say to hell with unity and send our own guys in to drive these Corporatist democrats and pro-war people out of our party? we might of lost with Lieberman, but we drove him out of the party and I doubt he’ll last past 2012. At the very least do we call and tell them they’re dead wrong? Can we send money to the DCCC, DSCC or DNC and demand first that our money never makes it’s way to these people? When does our party become universally the party of strong values, careful planning in defense and economic responsibility? When can we proudly declare that we support the freedom of religion for instance but we DO NOT believe that you need a god to be on the side of justice and good? I know it’s an uphill battle, but we ARE making progress and we must win. We must not bow to lobbyist for profit and we must not stop until we have every seat and the president belongs to our party. No. More. Integrity should be our number one concern!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, when do we just say to hell with unity and send our own guys in to drive these Corporatist democrats and pro-war people out of our party? we might of lost with Lieberman, but we drove him out of the party and I doubt he’ll last past 2012. At the very least do we call and tell them they’re dead wrong? Can we send money to the DCCC, DSCC or DNC and demand first that our money never makes it’s way to these people? When does our party become universally the party of strong values, careful planning in defense and economic responsibility? When can we proudly declare that we support the freedom of religion for instance but we DO NOT believe that you need a god to be on the side of justice and good? I know it’s an uphill battle, but we ARE making progress and we must win. We must not bow to lobbyist for profit and we must not stop until we have every seat and the president belongs to our party. No. More. Integrity should be our number one concern!</p>
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		<title>By: kairos in cal</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/23/oh-the-irony/#comment-581032</link>
		<dc:creator>kairos in cal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 03:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your testimony about Elizabeth Edwards and your own life and mission’s commitment to FDL.  Hooray for you.  May the Lord continue to give you strength and grace to continue your calling.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your testimony about Elizabeth Edwards and your own life and mission’s commitment to FDL.  Hooray for you.  May the Lord continue to give you strength and grace to continue your calling.</p>
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		<title>By: legaleze</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/23/oh-the-irony/#comment-580973</link>
		<dc:creator>legaleze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 03:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There are few things that upset me more than traitors within our own ranks.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Brownandserve</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/23/oh-the-irony/#comment-580940</link>
		<dc:creator>Brownandserve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 02:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-580904&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dev Tobin @&lt;br /&gt;
                105              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Just to set the record straight on Mike McNulty, my congressman, he voted “no” with Kucinich, Waters, Woolsey, etc., NOT with the Blue Dogs or the Bushites.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here’s the statement he put out today:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the spring of 1970, during my first term as Town Supervisor of Green Island, I testified against the War in Vietnam at a Congressional Field Hearing in Schenectady, New York.                            &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Several months after that testimony, my brother, HM3 William F. McNulty, a Navy Medic, was killed in Quang Nam Province. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have thought — many times since then — that if President Nixon had listened to the voices of reason back then, my brother Bill might still be alive.          &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As a Member of Congress today, I believe that the Iraq War will eventually be recorded as one of the biggest blunders in the history of warfare.                        &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In October of 2002, I made a huge mistake in voting to give this President the authority to take military action in Iraq.  I will not compound that error by voting to authorize this war’s continuation.       &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On the contrary, I will do all that is within my power to end this war, to bring our troops home, and to spare other families the pain that the McNulty family has endured every day since August 9th, 1970.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sounds like Mike wants the war to end yesterday, doesn’t it?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can’t argue with it.  FWIW, here’s Wayne Gilcrest’s  (R-MD) rationale for voting in favor of it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Gilchrest Statement on his vote Friday on the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Bill&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; “My vote today on the emergency supplemental appropriations bill was based on two principals.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;First, we cannot jeopardize funding for our troops in the field in the middle of a combat mission. This funding was critical to the safety and security of our troops and I would find it unconscionable to vote against this funding.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Second, setting a timeline for the eventual withdrawal of U.S. combat forces from Iraq provides a strategic advantage to the U.S. in the Middle East where our troops are currently caught in the crossfire of a civil war between an Iranian-backed Shiite government and the Saudi/Syrian-supported insurgency that are using the U.S. presence there to promote terror and instability in Iraq.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The bill establishes a series of benchmarks— proposed in January by President Bush — that Iraqi leaders would have to meet for U.S. troops to remain in Iraq.  However, after August 2008, the bill’s provisions still allow U.S. forces to remain in Iraq if their mission is limited to protecting U.S. diplomatic facilities, U.S. citizens, or other U.S. troops; if they are engaged in targeted operations limited to killing or capturing members of al Qaeda or other global terrorist organizations; or if they are engaged in training Iraqi security forces.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the end, this was a very difficult decision and I am far from satisfied by all the provisions in this bill. But this vote sends a message to our troops that we will never jeopardize the funding that they need in the middle of a combat zone, and it sends an important message to the region that the United States will not be a permanent occupying force in Iraq. Most importantly, it sends a message to the Malliki Government and the Iraqi people that the onus is shifting to them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I will continue to closely follow this bill as it moves on to the Senate and back to the House for final passage.” &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-580904"><em>Dev Tobin @<br />
                105              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Just to set the record straight on Mike McNulty, my congressman, he voted “no” with Kucinich, Waters, Woolsey, etc., NOT with the Blue Dogs or the Bushites.</p>
<p>Here’s the statement he put out today:</p>
<p>In the spring of 1970, during my first term as Town Supervisor of Green Island, I testified against the War in Vietnam at a Congressional Field Hearing in Schenectady, New York.                            </p>
<p>Several months after that testimony, my brother, HM3 William F. McNulty, a Navy Medic, was killed in Quang Nam Province. </p>
<p>I have thought — many times since then — that if President Nixon had listened to the voices of reason back then, my brother Bill might still be alive.          </p>
<p>As a Member of Congress today, I believe that the Iraq War will eventually be recorded as one of the biggest blunders in the history of warfare.                        </p>
<p>In October of 2002, I made a huge mistake in voting to give this President the authority to take military action in Iraq.  I will not compound that error by voting to authorize this war’s continuation.       </p>
<p>On the contrary, I will do all that is within my power to end this war, to bring our troops home, and to spare other families the pain that the McNulty family has endured every day since August 9th, 1970.</p>
<p>Sounds like Mike wants the war to end yesterday, doesn’t it?</p>
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<p>Can’t argue with it.  FWIW, here’s Wayne Gilcrest’s  (R-MD) rationale for voting in favor of it.</p>
<blockquote><p>Gilchrest Statement on his vote Friday on the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Bill</p>
<p> “My vote today on the emergency supplemental appropriations bill was based on two principals.</p>
<p>First, we cannot jeopardize funding for our troops in the field in the middle of a combat mission. This funding was critical to the safety and security of our troops and I would find it unconscionable to vote against this funding.</p>
<p>Second, setting a timeline for the eventual withdrawal of U.S. combat forces from Iraq provides a strategic advantage to the U.S. in the Middle East where our troops are currently caught in the crossfire of a civil war between an Iranian-backed Shiite government and the Saudi/Syrian-supported insurgency that are using the U.S. presence there to promote terror and instability in Iraq.</p>
<p>The bill establishes a series of benchmarks— proposed in January by President Bush — that Iraqi leaders would have to meet for U.S. troops to remain in Iraq.  However, after August 2008, the bill’s provisions still allow U.S. forces to remain in Iraq if their mission is limited to protecting U.S. diplomatic facilities, U.S. citizens, or other U.S. troops; if they are engaged in targeted operations limited to killing or capturing members of al Qaeda or other global terrorist organizations; or if they are engaged in training Iraqi security forces.</p>
<p>In the end, this was a very difficult decision and I am far from satisfied by all the provisions in this bill. But this vote sends a message to our troops that we will never jeopardize the funding that they need in the middle of a combat zone, and it sends an important message to the region that the United States will not be a permanent occupying force in Iraq. Most importantly, it sends a message to the Malliki Government and the Iraqi people that the onus is shifting to them.</p>
<p>I will continue to closely follow this bill as it moves on to the Senate and back to the House for final passage.” </p>
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		<title>By: Dev Tobin</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/23/oh-the-irony/#comment-580904</link>
		<dc:creator>Dev Tobin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 02:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just to set the record straight on Mike McNulty, my congressman, he voted “no” with Kucinich, Waters, Woolsey, etc., NOT with the Blue Dogs or the Bushites.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here’s the statement he put out today:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the spring of 1970, during my first term as Town Supervisor of Green Island, I testified against the War in Vietnam at a Congressional Field Hearing in Schenectady, New York.                            &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Several months after that testimony, my brother, HM3 William F. McNulty, a Navy Medic, was killed in Quang Nam Province. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have thought — many times since then — that if President Nixon had listened to the voices of reason back then, my brother Bill might still be alive.          &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As a Member of Congress today, I believe that the Iraq War will eventually be recorded as one of the biggest blunders in the history of warfare.                        &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In October of 2002, I made a huge mistake in voting to give this President the authority to take military action in Iraq.  I will not compound that error by voting to authorize this war’s continuation.       &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On the contrary, I will do all that is within my power to end this war, to bring our troops home, and to spare other families the pain that the McNulty family has endured every day since August 9th, 1970.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sounds like Mike wants the war to end yesterday, doesn’t it?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to set the record straight on Mike McNulty, my congressman, he voted “no” with Kucinich, Waters, Woolsey, etc., NOT with the Blue Dogs or the Bushites.</p>
<p>Here’s the statement he put out today:</p>
<p>In the spring of 1970, during my first term as Town Supervisor of Green Island, I testified against the War in Vietnam at a Congressional Field Hearing in Schenectady, New York.                            </p>
<p>Several months after that testimony, my brother, HM3 William F. McNulty, a Navy Medic, was killed in Quang Nam Province. </p>
<p>I have thought — many times since then — that if President Nixon had listened to the voices of reason back then, my brother Bill might still be alive.          </p>
<p>As a Member of Congress today, I believe that the Iraq War will eventually be recorded as one of the biggest blunders in the history of warfare.                        </p>
<p>In October of 2002, I made a huge mistake in voting to give this President the authority to take military action in Iraq.  I will not compound that error by voting to authorize this war’s continuation.       </p>
<p>On the contrary, I will do all that is within my power to end this war, to bring our troops home, and to spare other families the pain that the McNulty family has endured every day since August 9th, 1970.</p>
<p>Sounds like Mike wants the war to end yesterday, doesn’t it?</p>
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		<title>By: katherine graham cracker</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/23/oh-the-irony/#comment-580897</link>
		<dc:creator>katherine graham cracker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 02:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;the pork thing is a myth -necessary appropriations the Republican congress failed to deal with and a lot of Katrina relief money and other areas disaster funds&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the pork thing is a myth -necessary appropriations the Republican congress failed to deal with and a lot of Katrina relief money and other areas disaster funds</p>
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		<title>By: katherine graham cracker</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/23/oh-the-irony/#comment-580893</link>
		<dc:creator>katherine graham cracker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 02:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Re: Waters and the others&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;it’s good they stopped opposing liberals voting for it but they then have to make sure their actions are marketed to the media and not allow the GOP to spin it as a narrow vote&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>it’s good they stopped opposing liberals voting for it but they then have to make sure their actions are marketed to the media and not allow the GOP to spin it as a narrow vote</p>
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		<title>By: Rocket Scientist</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/23/oh-the-irony/#comment-580798</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocket Scientist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 01:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-580545&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mauimom @ 12 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jane, I know that “pork” was put in the bill to get some Dems to vote for it. [A really bad and sleazy idea, in my opinion, particularly since it provided the Chimp with an opportunity to point this out.]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Any word on who the recipients of this “largess” are?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The leaders of both houses seem to be really on top of their game. Perhaps it is not as simple as it might first appear. I live near D.C. so maybe I am starting to catch the delusional disease that is so prevalent in the area. Nevertheless, here is an off the wall scenario. The “so called pork” are indeed worthwhile items that will subsequently be put in stand alone bills later. They were inserted at this time in order to get the Republicans to complain about them, and for the most part that was their major complaint. Pelosi knows she has enough to get the bill passed but not enough for a veto. Dummy will fall for it and veto funds for the troops. The Democratic rebound is to strip the “pork” and lay it on the Republicans to now give enough support to over ride a veto. Otherwise the pResident as well as the Republicans look foolish and clearly don’t care about the troops - just control.  The urinary pResident now is pissing on the troops.  I repeat, I may be getting delusional, but…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>Jane, I know that “pork” was put in the bill to get some Dems to vote for it. [A really bad and sleazy idea, in my opinion, particularly since it provided the Chimp with an opportunity to point this out.]</p>
<p>Any word on who the recipients of this “largess” are?</p>
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<p>The leaders of both houses seem to be really on top of their game. Perhaps it is not as simple as it might first appear. I live near D.C. so maybe I am starting to catch the delusional disease that is so prevalent in the area. Nevertheless, here is an off the wall scenario. The “so called pork” are indeed worthwhile items that will subsequently be put in stand alone bills later. They were inserted at this time in order to get the Republicans to complain about them, and for the most part that was their major complaint. Pelosi knows she has enough to get the bill passed but not enough for a veto. Dummy will fall for it and veto funds for the troops. The Democratic rebound is to strip the “pork” and lay it on the Republicans to now give enough support to over ride a veto. Otherwise the pResident as well as the Republicans look foolish and clearly don’t care about the troops &#8211; just control.  The urinary pResident now is pissing on the troops.  I repeat, I may be getting delusional, but…</p>
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