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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/22/unctuous/#comment-578372</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 00:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I guess it comes as no suprise, but the Post has shut down the comments section on Novak’s piece.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As of 5PM, it was 25 pages of “fuck you, Bob”. I imagine the Douchbag of Liberty probably called the Post and yelled at someone to shut it down…bastard.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it comes as no suprise, but the Post has shut down the comments section on Novak’s piece.</p>
<p>As of 5PM, it was 25 pages of “fuck you, Bob”. I imagine the Douchbag of Liberty probably called the Post and yelled at someone to shut it down…bastard.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Zen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/22/unctuous/#comment-578291</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Zen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Novak is deranged. Poor old neocons. They don’t have too many rocks left to hide under, with the sun of truth beginning to shine on them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Novak is deranged. Poor old neocons. They don’t have too many rocks left to hide under, with the sun of truth beginning to shine on them.</p>
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		<title>By: Otis</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/22/unctuous/#comment-577117</link>
		<dc:creator>Otis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If Gingrich wants forgiveness for the same actions he persecuted Bill Clinton with, shouldn’t he first apologize to Bill?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Gingrich wants forgiveness for the same actions he persecuted Bill Clinton with, shouldn’t he first apologize to Bill?</p>
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		<title>By: Sixty Something</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/22/unctuous/#comment-576966</link>
		<dc:creator>Sixty Something</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-576539&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 10 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Christy -&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One typo: And &lt;strike&gt;mandid&lt;/strike&gt; man did that hurt to type…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Public service announcement: if FDL is running slowly, there appears to be a server hiccup (as was the case yesterday) involving dg.specificclick.net. Whatever ad it is displaying may be loading very slowly.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am having the same problem!  Its driving me crazy.  I get it here, though not so much today.  I also get it at Eschaton, Americablog, and The Huffington Post.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m sure dealing with a dial up connection doesn’t help.  The sites will load, give me just enough time to start reading, then it kicks me into a google search mode.  I thought it might have been spyware or a virus.  It would be much appreciated if someone could fix it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-576539"><em>Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 10 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Christy -</p>
<p>One typo: And <strike>mandid</strike> man did that hurt to type…</p>
<p>Public service announcement: if FDL is running slowly, there appears to be a server hiccup (as was the case yesterday) involving dg.specificclick.net. Whatever ad it is displaying may be loading very slowly.</p>
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<p>I am having the same problem!  Its driving me crazy.  I get it here, though not so much today.  I also get it at Eschaton, Americablog, and The Huffington Post.</p>
<p>I’m sure dealing with a dial up connection doesn’t help.  The sites will load, give me just enough time to start reading, then it kicks me into a google search mode.  I thought it might have been spyware or a virus.  It would be much appreciated if someone could fix it.</p>
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		<title>By: TiredFed</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/22/unctuous/#comment-576871</link>
		<dc:creator>TiredFed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-576747&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;dmg @ 195&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-576731&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Phoenix Woman @ 189&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Because this needs emphasizing:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-576713&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;emptywheel @ 175&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;One point about the USA firings and The Gap (one made by Margaret Chiara). &lt;b&gt;The gaps starts, I believe, when it becomes crystal clear that Webb won VA, and the Dems won the Senate.&lt;/b&gt; There’s likely a whole discussion about how and whether to use the PATRIOT provision to replace these people–and what they’re going to do without Senate approval. They had already faced this with Griffin, so they were probably strategizing that during the gap.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;i so totally trust Marcy’s instincts. this makes absolute sense.&lt;br /&gt;
once again, this isn’t about the justice dept. this is about the white house.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and remember, this is all about politics. that’s the ROVIAN connection.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-576747"><em>dmg @ 195</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-576731"><em>Phoenix Woman @ 189</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Because this needs emphasizing:</p>
<p><a href="#comment-576713"><em>emptywheel @ 175</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>One point about the USA firings and The Gap (one made by Margaret Chiara). <b>The gaps starts, I believe, when it becomes crystal clear that Webb won VA, and the Dems won the Senate.</b> There’s likely a whole discussion about how and whether to use the PATRIOT provision to replace these people–and what they’re going to do without Senate approval. They had already faced this with Griffin, so they were probably strategizing that during the gap.</p>
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<p>i so totally trust Marcy’s instincts. this makes absolute sense.<br />
once again, this isn’t about the justice dept. this is about the white house.</p>
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<p>and remember, this is all about politics. that’s the ROVIAN connection.</p>
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		<title>By: TiredFed</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/22/unctuous/#comment-576867</link>
		<dc:creator>TiredFed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-576735&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mary4 @ 192&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Rayne @163 - I think it is much simpler.  The plan was already all spelled out by the 15th.  The only thing DOJ is required to produce are emails relating to the plan and those fired, not ALL dept emails.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So on the 15th, the biggie issue comes up - required Presidential authorization.  Sampson commits a HUGE HUGE HUGE mistake, phrasing that question in an email, specifically mentioning the President.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d bet dollars to donuts that there was a phone call or face to face from someone blistering him and admonishing everyone involved that no one mentions the President in writing.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d also say that Rove became more active in the loop then.  Rove also isn’t “doing” emails, particularly after he got burned by the Cooper email and after he saw what happened with Abramoff emails.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So during that time frame, the only real issue seemed authorization and the only discussions that people had were probably done under strict guidelines of nothing in writing. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s really the heart of things, isn’t it?  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Remember the President saying that there would be an investigation re: Plame, he’d go after the leakers, etc.  - lies.  Now, what about the President and spokespersons saying he knew nothing about any of this?  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lies and cover up or Kyle/Alberto/Karl run amok, usurping to themselves the Presidential power to remove?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Those are the ONLY two choices. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tha&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;this is how the WH always operates. put nothing in writing. do it face-to-face. no memos. but you can bet there are TONS of internal emails! Congress needs to get THOSE!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-576735"><em>Mary4 @ 192</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Rayne @163 &#8211; I think it is much simpler.  The plan was already all spelled out by the 15th.  The only thing DOJ is required to produce are emails relating to the plan and those fired, not ALL dept emails.  </p>
<p>So on the 15th, the biggie issue comes up &#8211; required Presidential authorization.  Sampson commits a HUGE HUGE HUGE mistake, phrasing that question in an email, specifically mentioning the President.</p>
<p>I’d bet dollars to donuts that there was a phone call or face to face from someone blistering him and admonishing everyone involved that no one mentions the President in writing.  </p>
<p>I’d also say that Rove became more active in the loop then.  Rove also isn’t “doing” emails, particularly after he got burned by the Cooper email and after he saw what happened with Abramoff emails.  </p>
<p>So during that time frame, the only real issue seemed authorization and the only discussions that people had were probably done under strict guidelines of nothing in writing. </p>
<p>It’s really the heart of things, isn’t it?  </p>
<p>Remember the President saying that there would be an investigation re: Plame, he’d go after the leakers, etc.  &#8211; lies.  Now, what about the President and spokespersons saying he knew nothing about any of this?  </p>
<p>Lies and cover up or Kyle/Alberto/Karl run amok, usurping to themselves the Presidential power to remove?</p>
<p>Those are the ONLY two choices. </p>
<p>Tha</p>
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<p>this is how the WH always operates. put nothing in writing. do it face-to-face. no memos. but you can bet there are TONS of internal emails! Congress needs to get THOSE!</p>
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		<title>By: HotFlash</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/22/unctuous/#comment-576829</link>
		<dc:creator>HotFlash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-576694&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;egregious @ 155&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;HotFlash wiki—do it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Need to look at anomalies, unexpected outcomes, people saying things that are off-center, moderates sprouting the winger phrase of the week etc.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cujo, can we add this to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.docstrangelove.com/gonzopedia/index.php/Main_Page&quot;&gt;Gonzopedia&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It might work well off &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.docstrangelove.com/gonzopedia/index.php/Main_Page#Related_Scandals&quot;&gt;Related Scandals&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-576694"><em>egregious @ 155</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>HotFlash wiki—do it.</p>
<p>Need to look at anomalies, unexpected outcomes, people saying things that are off-center, moderates sprouting the winger phrase of the week etc.</p>
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<p>Cujo, can we add this to <a href="http://www.docstrangelove.com/gonzopedia/index.php/Main_Page">Gonzopedia</a>?</p>
<p>It might work well off <a href="http://www.docstrangelove.com/gonzopedia/index.php/Main_Page#Related_Scandals">Related Scandals</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: sofistic</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/22/unctuous/#comment-576797</link>
		<dc:creator>sofistic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Isn’t unctuous some kind of toenail infection?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn’t unctuous some kind of toenail infection?</p>
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		<title>By: sofistic</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/22/unctuous/#comment-576794</link>
		<dc:creator>sofistic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-576668&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;egregious @&lt;br /&gt;
                133              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-576656&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;OldCoastie @ 122 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Joshua fought the battle of Jericho, Jericho, Jericho&lt;br /&gt;
Joshua fought the battle of Jericho and the wall came a’ tumblin’ down!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;why does that song keep playing in my head?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anybody got a trumpet?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No, but ET has a trombone.  Will that do?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-576668"><em>egregious @<br />
                133              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-576656"><em>OldCoastie @ 122 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Joshua fought the battle of Jericho, Jericho, Jericho<br />
Joshua fought the battle of Jericho and the wall came a’ tumblin’ down!</p>
<p>why does that song keep playing in my head?</p>
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<p>Anybody got a trumpet?</p>
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<p>No, but ET has a trombone.  Will that do?</p>
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		<title>By: Educated Plaintiff</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/22/unctuous/#comment-576793</link>
		<dc:creator>Educated Plaintiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-576730&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;OldCoastie @ 188&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-576724&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;looseheadprop @&lt;br /&gt;
                186              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Don’t know if this link will work, but even David Brooks is disgusted with them (not that he refrained from slamming Dems or anything)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://select.nytimes.com/2007/03/22/opinion/22brooks.html?ex=1174708800&amp;en=1c4c01d916b9312e&amp;ei=5121&amp;emc=eta1&quot;&gt;http://select.nytimes.com/2007.....p;emc=eta1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;wow! the link DID work!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;looks like Brooks is assisting in tossing Gonzo overboard.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i barely tolerate brooks on newshour - but i have to give him an h/t for the way he ended:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“As often happens when you have a government unencumbered by adult supervision, this affair is now spiraling down to the partisan depths. It will take on a life of its own and muddy everyone who touches it. But it all could have been prevented with a few distinctions about the proper role of politics, and a little sense of honor.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“will take on a life of its own”  - you got that right dude&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-576724"><em>looseheadprop @<br />
                186              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Don’t know if this link will work, but even David Brooks is disgusted with them (not that he refrained from slamming Dems or anything)</p>
<p><a href="http://select.nytimes.com/2007/03/22/opinion/22brooks.html?ex=1174708800&amp;en=1c4c01d916b9312e&amp;ei=5121&amp;emc=eta1">http://select.nytimes.com/2007&#8230;..p;emc=eta1</a></p>
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<p>wow! the link DID work!!</p>
<p>looks like Brooks is assisting in tossing Gonzo overboard.</p>
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<p>i barely tolerate brooks on newshour &#8211; but i have to give him an h/t for the way he ended:</p>
<p>“As often happens when you have a government unencumbered by adult supervision, this affair is now spiraling down to the partisan depths. It will take on a life of its own and muddy everyone who touches it. But it all could have been prevented with a few distinctions about the proper role of politics, and a little sense of honor.”</p>
<p>“will take on a life of its own”  &#8211; you got that right dude</p>
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