Comments on: “The Math” http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/the-math-2/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:21:46 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: owenz http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/the-math-2/#comment-576049 owenz Thu, 22 Mar 2007 02:53:42 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/the-math-2/#comment-576049 <p>By the way, thanks for finally giving this study some bloggy love and affection. It was first discussed by Paul Krugman in his March 9th NY Times column. And I’m pretty sure the first link to the actual study came via Drum, on the same day:</p> <p><a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2007_03/010882.php">http://www.washingtonmonthly.c.....010882.php</a></p> <p>Since then it’s rarely been mentioned (other than my constant bitching and whining about it to TPM, Salon, etc.)</p> <p>Frankly, I’ve been shocked how little play the study has gotten, given the scandal tearing up the internets lately. As far as I’m concerned, it demonstrates what Kyle Sampson meant when he said: <a href="http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002778.php">“80-85 percent” of US Attorneys are “loyal Bushies.”</a> </p> <p>Call me hysterical, but “the math” suggests that US Attorneys overwhelmingly view themselves the same way prosecutors in Vladamir Putin’s Russia: as a tool of the ruling party. It’s positively sickening.</p> By the way, thanks for finally giving this study some bloggy love and affection. It was first discussed by Paul Krugman in his March 9th NY Times column. And I’m pretty sure the first link to the actual study came via Drum, on the same day:

http://www.washingtonmonthly.c…..010882.php

Since then it’s rarely been mentioned (other than my constant bitching and whining about it to TPM, Salon, etc.)

Frankly, I’ve been shocked how little play the study has gotten, given the scandal tearing up the internets lately. As far as I’m concerned, it demonstrates what Kyle Sampson meant when he said: “80-85 percent” of US Attorneys are “loyal Bushies.”

Call me hysterical, but “the math” suggests that US Attorneys overwhelmingly view themselves the same way prosecutors in Vladamir Putin’s Russia: as a tool of the ruling party. It’s positively sickening.

]]> By: owenz http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/the-math-2/#comment-576013 owenz Thu, 22 Mar 2007 02:44:27 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/the-math-2/#comment-576013 <p>Reporters need to contact some of the US Attorneys who are investigating and prosecuting hugely disproporionate numbers of Democrats and ask them, on the record: did the DOJ ask you to do this? Are you doing this for partison reasons? Do you feel you job depends on investigating Democrats? Do you feel your career will suffer if you prosecute Republicans?</p> <p>US Attorneys are not politicians, although they often want to be. Drill enough of them and facade will begin to crack. </p> <p>Considering “the math,” the only REAL question is whether DOJ specifically instructed USA’s to target Democrats or if it was just a kind of upspoken, de facto thing that all the USA’s knew after six years in BushWorld.</p> Reporters need to contact some of the US Attorneys who are investigating and prosecuting hugely disproporionate numbers of Democrats and ask them, on the record: did the DOJ ask you to do this? Are you doing this for partison reasons? Do you feel you job depends on investigating Democrats? Do you feel your career will suffer if you prosecute Republicans?

US Attorneys are not politicians, although they often want to be. Drill enough of them and facade will begin to crack.

Considering “the math,” the only REAL question is whether DOJ specifically instructed USA’s to target Democrats or if it was just a kind of upspoken, de facto thing that all the USA’s knew after six years in BushWorld.

]]> By: Divorced one like Bush http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/the-math-2/#comment-575425 Divorced one like Bush Wed, 21 Mar 2007 22:34:05 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/the-math-2/#comment-575425 <p>Robert Reich noted this today at his blog:<br /> Senator Pat Leahy, whom Dick Cheney suggested copulating with himself, and who now runs the Senate Judiciary…</p> <p>Imagine that.</p> Robert Reich noted this today at his blog:
Senator Pat Leahy, whom Dick Cheney suggested copulating with himself, and who now runs the Senate Judiciary…

Imagine that.

]]> By: Bayareagirl http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/the-math-2/#comment-575308 Bayareagirl Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:06:03 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/the-math-2/#comment-575308 <p>A couple of comments at TPM mentioned that installing loyal “Bushies” as USA’s is a step to packing the courts, as many USA’s go on to federal court appointments. I don’t know if there is anything to this, but I did notice that 5 of the fired USA’s are in the 9th circuit court of appeals. The most liberal circuit, and the one most hated by conservatives.</p> A couple of comments at TPM mentioned that installing loyal “Bushies” as USA’s is a step to packing the courts, as many USA’s go on to federal court appointments. I don’t know if there is anything to this, but I did notice that 5 of the fired USA’s are in the 9th circuit court of appeals. The most liberal circuit, and the one most hated by conservatives.

]]> By: phred http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/the-math-2/#comment-575272 phred Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:48:47 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/the-math-2/#comment-575272 <p><a href="#comment-575044"><em>HotFlash @ 228</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-574979"><em></em></a></p> <p>phred, they missed having a permanent majority by one macaca and a pedophile. We are fighting for our lives here, and for our grandchildren’s.</p></blockquote> <p>I agree with you, we have a lot to do and the jury is still out on who will prevail. My comment @223 was in response to NorskeFlamethrower’s over the top (IMHO) response to my original comment @176. When people invoke comparisons to Nazi’s, fascists, and coups (myself included) they may be sincere and even correct, but moderate elements of society will tune you out.</p> <p>My original comment essentially said that if the Republicans pursuing a Permanent Majority are successful, our democracy will cease to exist. This is indeed a very serious fight, but I think we are best served by choosing our words a bit more carefully than NorskeFlamethrower would have me do. All of our predecessor democracies have failed, I sincerely hope ours does not follow in their footsteps.</p> HotFlash @ 228

phred, they missed having a permanent majority by one macaca and a pedophile. We are fighting for our lives here, and for our grandchildren’s.

I agree with you, we have a lot to do and the jury is still out on who will prevail. My comment @223 was in response to NorskeFlamethrower’s over the top (IMHO) response to my original comment @176. When people invoke comparisons to Nazi’s, fascists, and coups (myself included) they may be sincere and even correct, but moderate elements of society will tune you out.

My original comment essentially said that if the Republicans pursuing a Permanent Majority are successful, our democracy will cease to exist. This is indeed a very serious fight, but I think we are best served by choosing our words a bit more carefully than NorskeFlamethrower would have me do. All of our predecessor democracies have failed, I sincerely hope ours does not follow in their footsteps.

]]> By: RealWorld http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/the-math-2/#comment-575262 RealWorld Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:45:28 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/the-math-2/#comment-575262 <p>Here is the short list. If someone can tell me how to post a table here I can give the whole thing.</p> <p>AR D=2, R=0<br /> CA D=32, R=6<br /> NV D=11, R=1<br /> MI D=18, R=0<br /> AZ D=0, R=2<br /> NM D=1, R=0</p> <p>Also, if someone has a geo of how CA divides up USA offices I can add that breakdown.</p> Here is the short list. If someone can tell me how to post a table here I can give the whole thing.

AR D=2, R=0
CA D=32, R=6
NV D=11, R=1
MI D=18, R=0
AZ D=0, R=2
NM D=1, R=0

Also, if someone has a geo of how CA divides up USA offices I can add that breakdown.

]]> By: Madeline http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/the-math-2/#comment-575219 Madeline Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:10:17 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/the-math-2/#comment-575219 <p><a href="#comment-574650"><em>Hugh @ 38 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Referring to the map above, here is the list of fired attorneys</p> <p>David Iglesia (District of New Mexico)<br /> H. E. Cummins III (Eastern District of Arkansas)<br /> Paul K. Charlton (District of Arizona)<br /> John McKay (Western District of Washington)<br /> Daniel Bogden (District of Nevada)<br /> Margaret Chiara (Western District of Michigan)<br /> Carol Lam (Southern District of California )<br /> Kevin V. Ryan (Northern District of California) </p> <p>6 of the attorneys come from states that are not completely red or blue. The other 2 are from the country’s largest state and a major source of campaign contributions California. </p></blockquote> <p>The first thing I thought of when I heard the states the USAs were from was:<br /> AR = Hillary Clinton<br /> CA = Pelosi - speaker<br /> NV = Reid - majority leader<br /> MI = Conyers & Dingell, chairs of pretty important committees (judiciary/energy-commerce)</p> <p>But I couldn’t think of links for WA or NM, other than they’re kind of tossup red/blue states.</p> Hugh @ 38

Referring to the map above, here is the list of fired attorneys

David Iglesia (District of New Mexico)
H. E. Cummins III (Eastern District of Arkansas)
Paul K. Charlton (District of Arizona)
John McKay (Western District of Washington)
Daniel Bogden (District of Nevada)
Margaret Chiara (Western District of Michigan)
Carol Lam (Southern District of California )
Kevin V. Ryan (Northern District of California)

6 of the attorneys come from states that are not completely red or blue. The other 2 are from the country’s largest state and a major source of campaign contributions California.

The first thing I thought of when I heard the states the USAs were from was:
AR = Hillary Clinton
CA = Pelosi – speaker
NV = Reid – majority leader
MI = Conyers & Dingell, chairs of pretty important committees (judiciary/energy-commerce)

But I couldn’t think of links for WA or NM, other than they’re kind of tossup red/blue states.

]]> By: RealWorld http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/the-math-2/#comment-575212 RealWorld Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:03:59 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/the-math-2/#comment-575212 <p>So here is a break down of political cases by state from the report. (I’m off by one somewhere but I do have to do my day job :-)</p> <p>Sorry… The formatting keeps getting trashed. It looks good on preview but not on post. I’ll reformat tonight and post then.</p> So here is a break down of political cases by state from the report. (I’m off by one somewhere but I do have to do my day job :-)

Sorry… The formatting keeps getting trashed. It looks good on preview but not on post. I’ll reformat tonight and post then.

]]> By: eCAHNomics http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/the-math-2/#comment-575158 eCAHNomics Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:32:29 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/the-math-2/#comment-575158 <p><em>How about setting up an effort similar to the FDL rubber-stamp event… for all of us to send a TELEGRAM to Bush to demand that he release the missing emails. It might remind the MSM of the flood of telegrams to Nixon, especially if we pointed that out, and get them to write about the missing (incriminating?) information the White House is trying to hide. </em></p> <p>How about sending emails with just the dates in the subject line and nothing else–since the dates were blank in the docudump? Would only work if hundreds do it.</p> How about setting up an effort similar to the FDL rubber-stamp event… for all of us to send a TELEGRAM to Bush to demand that he release the missing emails. It might remind the MSM of the flood of telegrams to Nixon, especially if we pointed that out, and get them to write about the missing (incriminating?) information the White House is trying to hide.

How about sending emails with just the dates in the subject line and nothing else–since the dates were blank in the docudump? Would only work if hundreds do it.

]]> By: amy http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/the-math-2/#comment-575132 amy Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:14:25 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/the-math-2/#comment-575132 <p><a href="#comment-575080"><em>HotFlash @<br /> 230 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Amy, Raging Gurrrl at 179 on the next thread (I think it’s the next thread…) is discussing the asubpoena issue right now, seems WH can’t refuse w/o being in contempt, that’s one opinion anyway. The comment is <a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/snow-job/#comment-575038">here</a>.</p></blockquote> <p>Thanks for your response! I hope and pray that this all will see the light of day and there is accountability! There hasn’t been any for way too long!</p> HotFlash @
230

Amy, Raging Gurrrl at 179 on the next thread (I think it’s the next thread…) is discussing the asubpoena issue right now, seems WH can’t refuse w/o being in contempt, that’s one opinion anyway. The comment is here.

Thanks for your response! I hope and pray that this all will see the light of day and there is accountability! There hasn’t been any for way too long!

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