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		<title>By: Taninc</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/snow-job/#comment-576500</link>
		<dc:creator>Taninc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;While the subject of nepotism hasn’t come up in the resignations/firings of the USAs, that thought has kept coming back to me for the following reasons:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. “Parties of interest” Karl Rove, Kyle Sampson and Timothy Griffin share a disconcerting familial resemblance.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2.  Each, or at least two, share a past (and current?) family presence in Utah.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Okay, with that said, I’m willing to concede it may just be my imagination but does it appear that way to anyone else?  A group photo, preferably at a congressional hearing with all three present might be helpful in satisfying my  curiosity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Heartfelt thanks to the FDL crew for so ably and painstakingly keeping us up to date in a timely manner on so many issues.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the subject of nepotism hasn’t come up in the resignations/firings of the USAs, that thought has kept coming back to me for the following reasons:</p>
<p>1. “Parties of interest” Karl Rove, Kyle Sampson and Timothy Griffin share a disconcerting familial resemblance.</p>
<p>2.  Each, or at least two, share a past (and current?) family presence in Utah.</p>
<p>Okay, with that said, I’m willing to concede it may just be my imagination but does it appear that way to anyone else?  A group photo, preferably at a congressional hearing with all three present might be helpful in satisfying my  curiosity.</p>
<p>Heartfelt thanks to the FDL crew for so ably and painstakingly keeping us up to date in a timely manner on so many issues.</p>
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		<title>By: The Oracle</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/snow-job/#comment-576400</link>
		<dc:creator>The Oracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 05:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A question I’d ask Tony Snowjob:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Was the firing of the U.S. Attorneys in November in anyway connected to the Mark Foley sex scandal exploding into the news in October, just before the election?”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Think about it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Republicans in October were desperate to supplant Foleygate coverage with something else, anything else, but preferably with news about Democratic scandals, even if the Republicans had to fabricate them. (Voter fraud, anyone?)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And how would Republicans manufacture news about Democratic scandals? One way would have been to have Republican-appointed, “loyal Bushie?” U.S. Attorneys file indictments or announce investigations of Democrats in their districts. Take New Mexico and David Iglesias for example. Oh.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In other words, I don’t believe we are seeing the full picture here.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Could the firings of the eight U.S. Attorneys have been because they didn’t “play hardball” before last year’s election (especially IRT the Republican counter-attack against the pervasive Foleygate news coverage), and Rove and Gonzales decided that their partisan “inaction” cost the Republicans the election…so these eight U.S. Attorneys had to be punished…as well as being “swift-boated” over their performance…as a signal to the other U.S. Attorneys…to be “loyal Bushies” or else.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is what I’d ask Tony Snowjob.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is why few, if any, emails in the White House document dump will mention anything about the Mark Foley sex scandal, even though I contend this was the primary reason for the removal of many of the eight U.S. attorneys in November.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Republican political strategists always play to the base, whether racists, religious fanatics, homophobes, or whatever.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thus, one email released in the 18 day gap is about one U.S. Attorney not prosecuting enough anti-pornography cases, so he was fired.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, all the emails that must have been circulating in Republican circles in October involving damage-control over news of a homosexual Republican representative stalking young, male House pages, apparently known to the top echelons of the Republican Party for years, these emails are suspiciously absent from the document dump.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Republicans will claim these are two unrelated issues. I beg to differ.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And if we could get our hands on all the emails in the 18 day gap, I’d bet a fair number of them would refer to the firing of the eight U.S. Attorneys being related to their “nonperformance” during the critical month before the election over the Mark Foley sex scandal, in which some of the fired prosecutors continued pursuing cases against Republicans (Carol Lam), or didn’t release grand jury indictments against Democrats before the election (David Iglesias), which in both cases allowed the Foleygate news coverage to go unchallenged before the election. You just know the neo-con White House Republican leadership would have been pissed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A question I’d ask Tony Snowjob:</p>
<p>“Was the firing of the U.S. Attorneys in November in anyway connected to the Mark Foley sex scandal exploding into the news in October, just before the election?”</p>
<p>Think about it.</p>
<p>The Republicans in October were desperate to supplant Foleygate coverage with something else, anything else, but preferably with news about Democratic scandals, even if the Republicans had to fabricate them. (Voter fraud, anyone?)</p>
<p>And how would Republicans manufacture news about Democratic scandals? One way would have been to have Republican-appointed, “loyal Bushie?” U.S. Attorneys file indictments or announce investigations of Democrats in their districts. Take New Mexico and David Iglesias for example. Oh.</p>
<p>In other words, I don’t believe we are seeing the full picture here.</p>
<p>Could the firings of the eight U.S. Attorneys have been because they didn’t “play hardball” before last year’s election (especially IRT the Republican counter-attack against the pervasive Foleygate news coverage), and Rove and Gonzales decided that their partisan “inaction” cost the Republicans the election…so these eight U.S. Attorneys had to be punished…as well as being “swift-boated” over their performance…as a signal to the other U.S. Attorneys…to be “loyal Bushies” or else.</p>
<p>This is what I’d ask Tony Snowjob.</p>
<p>This is why few, if any, emails in the White House document dump will mention anything about the Mark Foley sex scandal, even though I contend this was the primary reason for the removal of many of the eight U.S. attorneys in November.</p>
<p>Republican political strategists always play to the base, whether racists, religious fanatics, homophobes, or whatever.</p>
<p>Thus, one email released in the 18 day gap is about one U.S. Attorney not prosecuting enough anti-pornography cases, so he was fired.</p>
<p>On the other hand, all the emails that must have been circulating in Republican circles in October involving damage-control over news of a homosexual Republican representative stalking young, male House pages, apparently known to the top echelons of the Republican Party for years, these emails are suspiciously absent from the document dump.</p>
<p>The Republicans will claim these are two unrelated issues. I beg to differ.</p>
<p>And if we could get our hands on all the emails in the 18 day gap, I’d bet a fair number of them would refer to the firing of the eight U.S. Attorneys being related to their “nonperformance” during the critical month before the election over the Mark Foley sex scandal, in which some of the fired prosecutors continued pursuing cases against Republicans (Carol Lam), or didn’t release grand jury indictments against Democrats before the election (David Iglesias), which in both cases allowed the Foleygate news coverage to go unchallenged before the election. You just know the neo-con White House Republican leadership would have been pissed.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Pordon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/snow-job/#comment-576322</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Pordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 04:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-574937&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;katymine @&lt;br /&gt;
                84              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;To make this official….. this scandal needs a name….. a name that it used in the press over and over again…. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;It needs to be short, sharp, memorable and repeatable.&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The repugs named everything they went after Clinton…. What is the name of this one???&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Stupidgate.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-574937"><em>katymine @<br />
                84              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>To make this official….. this scandal needs a name….. a name that it used in the press over and over again…. </p>
<p><b>It needs to be short, sharp, memorable and repeatable.</b> </p>
<p>The repugs named everything they went after Clinton…. What is the name of this one???</p>
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<p>“Stupidgate.”</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Pordon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/snow-job/#comment-576306</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Pordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 04:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-574918&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jeremius @&lt;br /&gt;
                68              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bush can’t get out of this one: Either his AG fired the USAs on his own authority (which makes them illegal, since it is authority he does not have) or the President consented to it. Thus, the WH simply HAS to be involved here in this decision. There is no getting around it, unless they want to argue that they have a rogue AG.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unless he *delegated* the power to Gonzo. Secretly and after the fact, but nonetheless. The constitution gives the executive godlike powers over time and space, after all…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-574918"><em>Jeremius @<br />
                68              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Bush can’t get out of this one: Either his AG fired the USAs on his own authority (which makes them illegal, since it is authority he does not have) or the President consented to it. Thus, the WH simply HAS to be involved here in this decision. There is no getting around it, unless they want to argue that they have a rogue AG.</p>
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<p>Unless he *delegated* the power to Gonzo. Secretly and after the fact, but nonetheless. The constitution gives the executive godlike powers over time and space, after all…</p>
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		<title>By: unmask911</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/snow-job/#comment-575786</link>
		<dc:creator>unmask911</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 01:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;From the Oxford Thesauraus, what could be a summation of the last six years:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;UNCTUOUS, adjective,&lt;br /&gt;
“she sees through his unctuous manners”&lt;br /&gt;
sycophantic, ingratiating, obsequious, fawning, servile, groveling, subservient, cringing, humble, hypocritical, insincere, gushing, effusive; glib, smooth, slick, slippery, oily, greasy; smarmy, slimy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now that’s a banana peel! Nice one Christy.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Oxford Thesauraus, what could be a summation of the last six years:</p>
<p>UNCTUOUS, adjective,<br />
“she sees through his unctuous manners”<br />
sycophantic, ingratiating, obsequious, fawning, servile, groveling, subservient, cringing, humble, hypocritical, insincere, gushing, effusive; glib, smooth, slick, slippery, oily, greasy; smarmy, slimy.</p>
<p>Now that’s a banana peel! Nice one Christy.</p>
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		<title>By: kirk murphy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/snow-job/#comment-575464</link>
		<dc:creator>kirk murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 22:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;oops -&lt;br /&gt;
just saw my zig at 2:53&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;apologies to our long suffering-mods&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops -<br />
just saw my zig at 2:53</p>
<p>apologies to our long suffering-mods</p>
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		<title>By: infoshaman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/snow-job/#comment-575429</link>
		<dc:creator>infoshaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 22:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;WaPo covers the “You can’t fire me, I quit” Department:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;If lawmakers actually issue the subpoenas, “the offer is withdrawn,” White House spokesman Tony Snow warned in a news briefing today. “The moment subpoenas are issued, it means that they have rejected the offer.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WaPo covers the “You can’t fire me, I quit” Department:</p>
<blockquote><p>If lawmakers actually issue the subpoenas, “the offer is withdrawn,” White House spokesman Tony Snow warned in a news briefing today. “The moment subpoenas are issued, it means that they have rejected the offer.”</p>
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		<title>By: Liberal-at-large</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/snow-job/#comment-575421</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberal-at-large</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 22:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mod(s)/FDL tech geeks - FYI:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Haven’t read the thread above (so this m/h/b addressed), but…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You guys were /. &amp; intermittent/hung from (at least) about 5:40 PM EDT (when I started to try to get on) to just a few moments ago. DOS’ed, server hiccups?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mod(s)/FDL tech geeks &#8211; FYI:</p>
<p>Haven’t read the thread above (so this m/h/b addressed), but…</p>
<p>You guys were /. &amp; intermittent/hung from (at least) about 5:40 PM EDT (when I started to try to get on) to just a few moments ago. DOS’ed, server hiccups?</p>
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		<title>By: kirk murphy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/snow-job/#comment-575386</link>
		<dc:creator>kirk murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-575064&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Steve @ 200&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-575039&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;MIMI @ 179&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-575028&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Steve @                 171              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-575005&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Sally @ 150&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I asked Congressman Conyers’ office assistant whether the Chairman will invite Brett Tolman to testify at the hearings regarding the US attorney firings and mentioned Tolman’s alleged role in inserting the US attorney provision in the Patriot Act.  Spelled Tolman’s name at her request.  Interesting times, indeed.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Way to go! The Utah boys, Hatch, Tolman, Kyle Sampson are up to their eye-balls in this shit. Specter is a joke but I think Hatch planted Tolman on Specter’s staff so Orin’s finger prints weren’t on “the inserted language.” Specter is pathetic, Hatch is evil.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You forgot the Karl Rove.   He is from Utah.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rove was born in Colorado, then to Nevada..High School and College in Salt Lake City Utah. I don’t think Karl is LDS.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;IIRC, MSM mentioned the Wilson’s attend the same DC area church (Episcopalian?) as ROver’s family attends (different services).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Visualizing chilly ice cream socials…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-575064"><em>Steve @ 200</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-575039"><em>MIMI @ 179</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-575028"><em>Steve @                 171              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-575005"><em>Sally @ 150</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I asked Congressman Conyers’ office assistant whether the Chairman will invite Brett Tolman to testify at the hearings regarding the US attorney firings and mentioned Tolman’s alleged role in inserting the US attorney provision in the Patriot Act.  Spelled Tolman’s name at her request.  Interesting times, indeed.</p>
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<p>Way to go! The Utah boys, Hatch, Tolman, Kyle Sampson are up to their eye-balls in this shit. Specter is a joke but I think Hatch planted Tolman on Specter’s staff so Orin’s finger prints weren’t on “the inserted language.” Specter is pathetic, Hatch is evil.</p>
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<p>You forgot the Karl Rove.   He is from Utah.</p>
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<p>Rove was born in Colorado, then to Nevada..High School and College in Salt Lake City Utah. I don’t think Karl is LDS.</p>
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<p>IIRC, MSM mentioned the Wilson’s attend the same DC area church (Episcopalian?) as ROver’s family attends (different services).</p>
<p>Visualizing chilly ice cream socials…</p>
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		<title>By: montag</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/snow-job/#comment-575369</link>
		<dc:creator>montag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-574937&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;katymine @&lt;br /&gt;
                84              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;To make this official….. this scandal needs a name….. a name that it used in the press over and over again…. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;It needs to be short, sharp, memorable and repeatable.&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The repugs named everything they went after Clinton…. What is the name of this one???&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, it’s about time that we started talking about the Wenis. :)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-574937"><em>katymine @<br />
                84              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>To make this official….. this scandal needs a name….. a name that it used in the press over and over again…. </p>
<p><b>It needs to be short, sharp, memorable and repeatable.</b> </p>
<p>The repugs named everything they went after Clinton…. What is the name of this one???</p>
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<p>So, it’s about time that we started talking about the Wenis. :)</p>
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