
(photo from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till )
In the big drive of anti-Big-Gummint conservative Republicans to give big fat taxpayer-funded contracts to their buddies show that private industry can outdo the government in every field of endeavor, charter schools have played a big role. It's a great way for conservatives to undermine universal public education and teachers' unions show their ethics and values at work.
And we have yet another charming example of this, courtesy of Celerity Nascent Charter School in Los Angeles.
Get a load of this:
Administrators at a Los Angeles charter school forbade students from reciting a poem about civil rights icon Emmett Till during a Black History Month program recently, saying his story was unsuitable for an assembly of young children.
Teachers and students said the administration suggested that the Till case — in which the teenager was beaten to death in Mississippi after allegedly whistling at a white woman — was not fitting for a program intended to be celebratory, and that Till's actions could be viewed as sexual harassment.
The decision by Celerity Nascent Charter School leaders roiled the southwest Los Angeles campus and led to the firing of seventh-grade teacher Marisol Alba and math teacher Sean Strauss, who had signed one of several letters of protest written by the students.
The incident highlights the tenuous job security for mostly nonunion teachers in charter schools, which are publicly financed but independently run. California has more than 600 charter schools, and their ranks continue to swell. According to the California Teachers Assn., staff at fewer than 10% of charter schools are represented by unions.
"I never thought it would come to this," said Alba, who helped her students prepare the Till presentation, in which they were going to read a poem and lay flowers in a circle. "I thought the most that would happen to me [after the event was canceled] is that I'd get talked to and it would be turned into a learning and teaching experience."
Well, here's the learning experience I took from this incident.
In what conservatives like to say is a society where racism no longer exists, apparently a lot of people think that fourteen-year-old Emmett Till deserved to be beaten to death for whistling at a white woman:
"Our whole goal is how do we get these kids to not look at all of the bad things that could happen to them and instead focus on the process of how do we become the next surgeon or the next politician," said Celerity co-founder and Executive Director Vielka McFarlane. "We don't want to focus on how the history of the country has been checkered but on how do we dress for success, walk proud and celebrate all the accomplishments we've made."
McFarlane said details of the Till case were too graphic for an assembly that included kindergartners. The principal, Grace Canada, could not be reached for comment. McFarlane, speaking for the school, said her review of the incident did not support the teachers' allegations that Canada had used the term sexual harassment to describe Till's behavior.
But Alba said that when the principal informed the class that they could not recite their poem, she gave the example of a construction worker whistling at her as she walked down the street.
"She said that she would be offended by that and that what Emmett Till did could be considered sexual harassment," said Alba. "She used the phrase a couple of times and when I objected, she said 'OK, inappropriately whistled at a woman.' "
Many parents said their children affirmed that account. Marcia Alston, mother of a seventh-grader, called the school to say she was appalled at its interpretation of history and the treatment of the teachers. She said that in the conversation, the principal used the term "rude" to describe Till's actions.
Ahem.
Dear Celerity Nascent management: Let me fill you in about Emmett Till.
His murder — and the acquittal of his killers (the all-white jury was out for all of 67 minutes, and would have been done even sooner had they not taken a "soda break" just to stretch the time out to "make it look good"), and the worldwide revulsion that followed — is what gave rise to the modern civil rights movement in America. In a sense, it is to the civil rights movement what the Crucifixion is to Christianity — and somehow, just somehow, I'm betting that this charter school's principal has no problem with kindergarteners hearing the graphic details of Jesus' death and resurrection.
I don't know about you, dear reader, but I'm having a tough time right now finding words to describe the people in charge of Celerity that are suitable for kindergarteners to see.
Let's just leave it at that.
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Supenoas!!!!!!!!!!
Oh boy… Fitz…is in order!
J U S T I C E !!!!
Fitz!
Phoenix Woman!
What do they think the kids are going to learn from this? (I don’t think being whistled at is a crime, but what happened to Emmett was murder. What happened to the teachers should be illegal, but unfortunately isn’t, because charter schools apparently have the power to fire for bad reasons too.)
Thanks for this, Phoenix Woman.
I like you points about the wingers saying racism is over…not to mention the point about the gory crucifixion story.
It’s just amazing. a 14 yr old boy committed “sexual harassment” and for that, yeah, sure, he deserved to be tortured and killed. Right.
The best you can say about people like this is that they have no judgment. the worst…well…like you, I’ll leave that unfinished.
They’ve been destroying the LA school system for lo these last 25 years. Vouchers are only the most recent stick to whack the dead horse. My kids went to school in LA, and the only thing they learned was cinquo de mayo and chinese new year, Martin Luther King and peanut butter. Ask them about how to write a check, how their govt works, or what is The New Deal, and who was FDR, and they blank. It sucks.
Who the hell gave those idiots a school to run? A school that doesn’t teach history is a failed school. I’m speechless.
The “sexual harrassment” argument is stupid.
I think it is reasonable to not discuss children being beaten to death by adults in any K-3 environment.
Censorship, yes. But that’s life. We don’t discuss war, murder, rape, and other violence with our 4 and 5 yr old girls. And I don’t want their teachers to do it for me.
“We don’t want to focus on how the history of the country has been checkered but on how do we dress for success, walk proud and celebrate all the accomplishments we’ve made.”
That is just f*cked up. Lessons are learned by the checkered past. The only way forward is to learn what has come to pass before.
And personally, as someone who has been physically gay bashed, I know how the sting of hate feels. I felt it to my face and ribs. It goes from the physical down deep to your soul.
OT, from TPM:
Halperin out as ABC News Political Director.
– Josh Marshall
from
http://www.editorandpublisher……1003560794
jello5929 @ 10
Jello-
I can give you the point on age appropriatness, but to fire the teacher? That’s fucked up.
“I’m having a tough time right now finding words to describe the people in charge of Celerity that are suitable for kindergarteners to see.”
I can think of several:
“nincompoops”; “racists”; “bigots”; “historical revisionists”; “idiots”; “incompetent”; “fired”; “useless”; “less than useless”.
My favorite is “fired”.
Celerity Nascent Management can say whatever it wants about Emmett Till, but that won’t diminish his stature in history. His murder had enormous historical significance and impact. For one, it energized the American civil rights movement, way before Rosa Parks. And it also had enormous impact on African-Americans and on culture in general:
ot-
The rude pundit has a great rant up on jr’s snit last night. For those not familiar with him, his language makes me sound like a nun.
http://www.rudepundit.blogspot.com/
PW,
It’s really great having you here. You’re an excellent writer, and very informative. I learn something important from each of your posts.
Appreciate it.
Heeeey. Who let Rita Cosby back on MSNBC?
ewww.
Off-topic: Just on NPR:John Yu (the former Bush admin atty who was pro, pro, pro torture. Yu literally said that to expect the attorney generals to operate w/out partisanship was to expect them to be ineffective.
He *literally* said that the attorneys general “and other parts of the Executive Branch”. Got that? He conflated the Judicial branch and the Executive branch.
=:-o
Is this school affiliated with the Bill Bennett computer scam -Bennett a government made millionaire, we enabled his gambling habit.
As for the school admi. comment – he must be a gooper they always blame the victim.
AllisonInSeattle says
Off-topic: Just on NPR:John Yu…
it’s John Yoo, the scourge of UC Berkeley…
I’ll go a bit against the grain here.
I do think that some conservatives like to say racism no longer exists. I don’t necessarily think that the administrators of the school think that Emmett Till deserved to be beaten to death for whistling at a white woman. I think they made a stupid decision, but I don’t think that it was made because they are conservative nutjobs.
I could be wrong, but nothing in the story linked proves to me that this is an example of conservatives using the unholy spectre of charter schools to force their values on little kids. As I said, I don’t agree with the decision. But the president of the school’s parent association did agree with it. And given that the shool’s population is by far — according to the article — African-American with a somewhat sizeable 19% Latino minority, I sincerely doubt that the parents in the PTA are right-wing nutjobs.
Of course, I have to use two hands to count the God-awful union-protected teachers that tried to ruin my education. I’m all for public schools and unions, but the teacher union where I grew up did a better job of protecting incompetent and abusive teachers than it did promoting good work practices. So, yeah, I’m also the tiniest bit biased.
OT– Inhofe being incredibly rude to Gore. He is insulting him on his home and included Tipper. He keeps interrupting.
Boxer is taking her gloves off.
he says he wants yes/no answers from Gore or he can write his answers but not answer at the hearing.
Boxer cuts him off and says elections have consequences and I make the rules.. huge APPLAUSE
jello5929 @
10
Thing is, Till’s death could have been touched on without going into elaborate detail — the principal was using this as a cop-out. Besides, we’re coming up on Easter Weekend, which as anyone who grew up Christian can tell, is all about The Passion of the Christ, where small children are told about an innocent man dying after three days of being hung from a cross by the iron nails driven into his flesh. Yet somehow I doubt that the people who objected to hearing about Till’s story will have a problem with little kids hearing about the Crucifixion.
Urban Pirate @
17
You’re so sweet. Thanks!
I’m just glad to be here.
OT – at the gore hearing
barbara boxer to inhofe – “you don’t make the rule any more “elections have consequences”
It is wrong to fire a teacher for standing up for student rights as much as it is wrong to kick a kid out of school for promoting the religious message “Bong Hits 4 Jesus.” So I agree it is wrong, and I am not saying the underlying events are equal.
However, this could have as easily happened at a public school. When I lived in Seattle, I voted against allowing charter schools because of community blah blah blah. Now I live in Los Angeles, I send my daughter to a charter school (Waldorf based) because I do not have $20K/year to send my kid to private school. I am not leaving my child behind in Bush’s educational void. Charter schools are the incubators of what will fix the schools in this country, and if progressives don’t embrace them, education will not progress in progressive civics. So please don’t blame charter schools for being conservative. Some of us find these schools as being a lifeline.
Phoenix Woman @ 24
I hadn’t thought about it that way. I remember being really freaked out at my Catholic Kindergarten about that. Not to mention the crucifix st church.
I would think the Emmett Till story is a must on any civil rights grade-school bibliography. It’s probably 10-12 material, because younger kids may not get it, cry and have nightmares. Younger kids can be taught the Ruby Bridges story with age-appropriate books. But Jim Crow and the Civil rights movement, like the Holocaust, is hard but necessary history. Kids need to learn about the bad-old days, especially when it is a crucial chunk of this nation’s history.
JoeBaby @ 22
Read the article. It wasn’t the teachers or the parents who didn’t want the kids to learn about Emmett Till.
It was the people who run the school. Including the principal. Who fired two teachers for protesting the decision not to honor Till’s memory.
Rita Cosby’s current contract expires in April. Of course it wasn’t renewed, as MSNBC decided to let her go. I suppose she can be on air intermittently till then. I’m far from TV right now. If she was/is on MSNBC it musta been for Anna Nicole. MSNBC only uses her for tabloid stuff.
looseheadprop @
4
LHP!
AllisonInSeattle @ 19
The Justice Department IS part of the Executive Branch, just like Department of Defense, Treasury or State — it is NOT part of the Judicial Branch. The Justice Department fights crime (FBI) and prosecutes the cases (US Attorneys) in Federal Courts.
That’s why the President appoints the USAs — they’re part of his Administration.
Biodun @ 31
Close! but no cigar.. American Idol. :D
Thanks for the clarification, I didn’t know she wasn’t let go immediately.
Contact the principal of Celerity Nascent at:
gracecanada@celeritycharterschool.org
It isn’t clear that Till actually whistled. Some accounts have it that he had a speech impedimet so when he spoke it often sounded airy or as if he were whistling.
Of course, I have to use two hands to count the God-awful union-protected te–
ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzz…
Emmett Till was a teenage boy doing what teenage boys do best – being an idiot. He just had the bad luck to be a black teenager doing that in the Jim Crow South. Calling what he did sexual harassment and implying that somehow that makes his lynching less worthy of study is beyond racism – it’s insane, particularly for people who are allegedly in the education business.
please excuse the addition OT (gore hearing) to this excellent post and thread…
i can’t stand inhofe! he is driving me crazy!
Phoenix Woman. You may be surprised. At least at our church, the K-3 age groups do not get the full details on the crucifixion.
It’s simply not appropriate and can cause irrational fears in kids that age. Not nearly as likely to cause issues as telling kids that random adults sometimes beat kids to death for doing things they didn’t like. But still not appropriate.
Look. You gotta think about it from the parents perspective. Should 6-8 grades hear the full story. Yes. Should the 7th graders be able to do their poem. Yes. Should young kids be taught that all people are important and valuable. Yes. If adults think badly of people who look or sound different then that’s because the adult has a problem, not the person who is different.
But violence against children should not be discussed with young (K-3) kids in a school environment. The only exception being that kids should be told that if they are hurt by an adult or know a child who was hurt by an adult, they should always tell the teacher.
angie @ 23
Was that gloooooorious, or what? *G*
Great work (again) Phoenix Woman!
Hmm -
Given LA School Board and LAUSD politics, this issue cries out for Mayor Antonio , a vocal proponent of charter schools with a problem at the City Clerk’s office.
You see, Mayor Antonio filed to ran for LA mayor -and lost. Then he filed to run again – and won. THEN he looked at the job and said – duh! – I meant to run for the LAUSD School Board.
So, Mayor Antonio has been busy as Mayor…trying to take over a school district accountable to 13 (or more) cities…only of which is LA.
Seems Antonio could have saved everyone a lot of trouble by reading the job descriptions before filing – and re-filing for the Mayoral elections, but I guess he was too busy with the private charter school owners to bother.
LA Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa has written off the educational unions (and labor in general) by posing as the “champion” of students against the LAUSD.
Antonio – before he was mayor – was CA Assembly Speaker…one of the three most powerful positions in determining the CA state budget.
The CA Assembly /Senate play the dominant role in the state’s budget, and often steamroll the CA Governor’s budget priorities.
When Antonio had the power to rescue all of California’s public schools by fixing their funding, he walked away.
The Speaker of the Assembly was too scared to take on the Prop 13 tax ghouls who defunded California schools and the state over thirty years ago.
Howard Jarvis and Paul Gann – the authors of the Prop 13 anti-government ruse – are both dead. Antonio ran from their shadows.
Anotonio plays the “government=bad/private=good” game to position himself for higher office, while still ripping off his Democratic backers – and his former allies in UTLA.
From Antonoio’s official bio:
Now Antonio blasts UTLA and teachers, and has sought an illegal takeover of the LAUSD by the mayor’s office. (For an attorney, Antonio was rather ignorant of the CA State Law regarding school boards.)
Mayor Antonio is an ambitious amoral social parasite who will further damage UTLA and the LAUSD just to advance his political career.
LA racial politics are poisonous; the gangs metastasizing the region have now begun “ethnic cleansing” in some neighborhoods: young African American women are shot to death for being black in “Hispanic gang turf”.
Mayor Antonio’s election and subsequent assault on the LAUSD added to racial tensions and exacerbated his already poor relations with African American leaders.
Mayor Anotonio so loves privatization and Charter schools; tying this ugly hateful incident around him and his privatization of the public schools is a sweet reward for his betrayals of progressive values and the social good.
selise @ 39
no kidding– OK has a lot of work to do. Gore is completely unruffled by his idiocy and rudeness.
Klobuchar nails him– “contrary to Mr. Inhofe’s position, Minnesotans believe in science.”
Twas a thing of beauty, Waccamaw.
PW – Thank you for posting on this topic. In AR we are losing ground every day. State funds are now being used to build schools on church property. Creationistas are corrupting science by combining creation with science text books and now we have “religious” studies classes in schools. Many charter schools don’t even have handicap access. The owner of the States largest newspaper, Walter Hussman, overseer of the Hover Institute ( along with Scaife etc.) are all financing this attack. The Walton’s (walmart) have basically purchased all power in the University of AR while Hussman pushes his agenda through his paper, the only statewide daily in the state.
It’s a full frontal assault and I don’t think most AR citizens have a clue, much less an ability to do much against so many fundie billionaires.
Sally @ 12
So he can spend more time writing rather than he has become a partisan hack and Bush apologist. It also says that he has trained a generation of political reporters at ABC News so I expect we can write off ABC News as a source of serious political news for years to come.
angie @ 23
Whoa! Wish I had CSPAN3. Poop.
i read the article. i think we need to be careful here. this is a neighborhood school that’s majority african american. i’m pretty sure FDL is not majority african american. i have no idea about the ethnic composition of the faculty or administration. if the community backs the school administration’s decision i think we should not second guess them. i believe that we need a lot more information before we go off on them. on the face of it, i don’t agree with the decision that was made, but i don’t know the full story and i don’t think anybody else here does either.
klem @ 36
I am not sure it matters whether Till whistled or not. Back in those days people could be lynched for walking on the same sidewalk as a white person I think. I think the important thing is noting how empowered elements of white society felt back then to kidnap & murder a 14 year old for some kind of infraction (that Till could not have known about becuase he was from out of town). And that this kind of thing was done to make black folks always feel as though walking on egg shells between life and death.
Children, even five year olds, are around a lot of TVs, newspapers, magazines, and other media showing a lot of news. And what’s in the news these days? Violence and trauma, often involving kids – Iraq, Israel/Palestine, missing boy scouts and other kids, etc.
We do children no favors by sweeping this stuff under the rug. By all means, we have to handle it in age-appropriate ways, but pretending it never happened is rarely, if ever, age appropriate.
Indeed, in trying to explain some of this stuff to children, we may learn how ridiculous some of the things we fight over actually are. Kids have a way of cutting through the euphemisms and calling bullshit: “They killed him because he whistled? That’s stupid.”
They aren’t easy conversations, by any means. But they are among the most necessary, IMHO.
Mandrake @ 46
stream it, I do. cspan.org
Mandrake @
46
Do you have broadband? They stream it live at their web site
If Inhofe had just shut up and let Gore answer the questions and if he had not bloviated so much in asking them, Gore could have easily answered all his questions.
Like others here, I loved it when Boxer informed Inhofe that he didn’t make the rules anymore. “Elections have consequences” a lesson the Republicans can’t or refuse to learn.
…it’s bad enough so many children get this trash at home, now they get it in their private schools.
Our public schools were always a place to assuage the generational prejudice that permeates our “just” society. But now, with this era of private schools apparently perpetuating that prejudice, we need to find some way to gauge just what their influence has been, and might become, on this vital issue.
Talk about the need for oversight, these charter schools need to be scrutinized about their influence.
“There oughta be a law.”
Re CSPAN, you don’t need broadband to listen to it.
http://www.c-span.org/watch/in…..mp;Code=CS
jello5929 @
40
WHAT??
This was a seventh-grade teacher, whose students are likely between 11 to 13 years of age, in LOS ANGELES.
These kids already know one heckuva lot about violence against other human beings.
My daughter is in seventh-grade, and the book they’ve been reading this semester is about a boy who has been physically abused by family, and this is curriculum in a suburban school in fly-over country. We’ve already had problems with a kid bringing a knife to school; across town we’ve had shootings in school among 15 year olds.
Damn. These kids are NOT going to learn that violence is not acceptable unless we can talk about it, and talk about it happening to them and to other children before them. They already know about it; we need to teach them it’s never acceptable and Emmett Till’s untimely, unwarranted, unnecessary death is only one example.
Kids are just not that stupid; they already see that racism, sexism, violence are wrong, because they see them in real life. But they need to feel safe talking about it, and learning what the boundries are with adults and not people hiding their heads in the sand.
jello5929 @
40
Jello, read the story:
It wasn’t the parents that complained. It was the principal.
The parents — 80% of whom are black — supported honoring Emmett Till. They even sent around a petition (actually, one of several student-generated letters of protest) protesting the censorship, a petition which two teachers signed.
And then those two teachers were fired.
And the violence complaint put forth by school management is a red herring. The real problem, as the fired teacher Marisol Alba found, was that the principal Grace Canada thought that Emmett Till was a “sexual harrasser”.
For whistling at a white woman.
For which he paid with his fourteen-year-old life.
PW, cannot thank you enough for this. While we in the reality based communities have lamented the loss of habeas corpus and the Bill of Rights, African Americans know what it’s like. After the Civil War, white supremacy was legal until the Civil Rights legislation of the ’60’s.
Till died in 1955, another to remember is Medgar Evers who was murdered in 1963.
For those intersted, I would strongly encourage reading about the Tulsa race riot of 1921 On a smaller, less violent scale, the African American middle class was simply eliminated after the Civil War. Here’s another example, Rosewood, Florida. A whole lot worse than anything the Duke LaCrosse team got was the trial of the Scottsboro boys. Chain gangs were an institutional way to create cheap labor that was not technically slavery. Ida B. Wells took over the anti-Lynching movement after Frederick Douglass died. She, WEB Dubois (resembled Malcolm X), and Booker T. Washington (resembled Martin Luther King) were important voices throughout this time.
OT–
Meanwhile, Bush presses on with state affairs:
Let’s hope he didn’t give her a back rub.
Wil @ 50
I do that, too. But I like to watch moments like those movie-style: on my couch with some popcorn. ;)
It is a shame that people misunderstand the purpose of studying history. It is not teach us the myths our culture, it is to teach the truth of the past our present lives are built.
Emmit Till was lynched for being a Negro. It was not because he whistled. All of America needs to understand that in America after the horrors of Nazism a man could be brutalized by citizens and have no fear of punishment. It is this cultural knowledge and heritage that influences Blacks responseto the killing of innocent Black men today.
Rayne @ 55
11 to 13 seems about the right age to learn actually, especially since Emmett Till was only 14.
I got confused at first, and thought the story referred to 6 year olds for some reason.
fahrender @ 47
You don’t understand the role of Emmett Till in black history. His death touched off the modern civil rights movement. To this day, five decades later, he is an iconic figure. Kanye West used pictures of Till’s mutilated face in the video for his first hit “Through the Wire”.
Read the article again. The parents — 80% of whom are black — did NOT support the school’s decision to censor the tribute to Emmett Till. And they certainly didn’t support the firing of the two teachers who joined the students in protesting the censorship.
That is why this is such big news.
shorter kit bond to al gore – republicans care about the poor, therefor we can’t save the planet.
You don’t understand the role of Emmett Till in black history. His death touched off the modern civil rights movement.
Tis true.
Five year old children have been exposed to violence on television and in video games. Any parent who thinks any different is in denial. They may try to keep there children from seeing it, but it still happens.
Better that children learn what the reality of violence is rather than the glamour of violence on television and in games.
ot
Kit Bond is a total tool. I want Gore just to call him a fucking moron. Sunspots my ass
PW, I agree with your 1:05.
I also want to say, however, that imo fahrender, based on my reading of prior comments long before this thread is very aware of subtle forms of white supremacy which still afflict our nation.
Rayne @ 55
Exactly.
Thing is, the “too violent for the kids” argument is a dodge on the principal’s part. Emmett Till’s mother made a point of having the casket open at his funeral and encouraged the taking of pictures so people could see exactly what was done to a fourteen-year-old boy who whistled at a white woman. Those pictures wound up being seared into the brains of black viewers and remain so.
FDL is probably majority white. I am a liberal Black man and I believe everybody should comment on incorrect behavior. We all are capable of deciding if this seems wrong and adjusting our view after more information.
Black people, like everybody else, want to hide our ugly past. The Till story highlights our oppression. Other stories highlight our failures. But, like other cultures, we must face them all to be mature.
Also, this is very much American history.
PW & commenters – thank you so much for adding to my limited knowledge base on this subject……….take-over of the public school system by the religious right is just downright terrifying. Some days I wonder if this country is going to continue to exist as anything we would recognize.
Sorry to go o/t again but, per Kos, “glenn beck battling it out w/tucker for ‘worst show on cable news.’”
Okay, I confess, I’m a nerd. Rather than streaming, I prefer to tape the hearings sometimes, if they’re good, and replay them. It’s like watching a good movie (for nerds).
Thank you BW, I hope FDL is a place you can feel comfortable.
kirk murphy @ 42
Actually, Antonio is following the track laid down by Riordan, who also wanted to take over the school district.
IMO, the mayor should do a better job of running the city; running the school district is not his job. (And if he really believed he was filing for the school board when he was filing for mayor, he shouldn’t be in either job.)
Whistling got Emmett Till murdered. And the principal called this sexual harassment. The young man was not killed for whistling. He was killed for being black.
Seems like someone is blaming the victim. I think Grace Canada should STFU. (Don’t tell the kids what that stands for because they have never heard or used language like that ever.)
We have a fair amount of Charter Schools here in AZ also. Many times they are in the papers due to their failures, both financial and teaching failures. Many of their owners have been prosecuted for misusing or co-mingling school funds with their own. Some of course are very good schools, but you definitely have to be careful to enroll your kids in the good ones.
As to what the kids learned from this incident, I would bet that they learned not to become teachers, or to tell the truth about black history in our society. I don’t know if I’ve mentioned that I came from Gary, IN; lived there until I was 40 years old. As a resident of Gary, I thought I had quite a bit of experience with and sensitivity to the black race, but my first year of college at Indiana University Northwest opened my eyes.
I was a bit older than the average student, as a single mother with two kids by the time I entered the school. I took a black lit course and read books like The Confessions of Nat Turner by William Styron and Go Tell It on the Mountain by Jame Baldwin. You could say I was shocked to learn that Nat Turner was killed and his hide was taken and turned into wallets, etc. Then we had rap sessions, and I learned what was still going on Cairo, Il. When some students said they went to visit relatives there, and when they went outside to bounce a ball at like 8:00PM they were nearly arrested. It seems there was a curfew for black people there. They said the police could and did come into their “crib” and roust everyone from a sound sleep in the middle of the night without warrants and with little or no cause. This was in the early 1970s.
It’s time American face reality. You can’t hide from it; you can only try to make things better. With the way we are raping and pillaging Iraq, and seeing it on the news everyday, I do not concede that young children should not be exposed, because they are, all the time. Better they should be aware. If the parents don’t like it, they should fight to change it, but not try to keep the truth from their children, lest they learn it in an altogether worse way.
selise– if Kit cares about poor people, perhaps he should pick up the phone and talk to Hugo Chavez who has offered free heating oil to our poor here.
(btw– I keep the thermostat low and layer jackets/sweaters indoors. Ain’t no big thing; that was a pretty transparent and pathetic display)
Phoenix Woman– thanks for the post. Emmett Till’s story deserves to be remembered and this kind of censorship is downright frightening. I’ll never forget the pictures of him in that casket, much less the story.
Too bad Iraqi & Afghan (etc.) school administrators and parents can’t protect their young ones from violence/ugliness/death.
They sound like teachers as I knew ‘em and loved ‘em: Incompetent, largely harmless imbeciles. I seriously doubt any of them knew who Emmett Till was. That would account for the “sexual harrassment” remark. The alternative theory seems to be that the teaching staff is made up of Klaxons, which obviously isn’t the case unless the Klan has relaxed its membership requirments.
I just threw up in my mouth. Joe Lie didn’t even have to start talking, jut the introduction did it for me
OT – lieberman questioning Gore on CSPAN3 now…
One thing I want to point out:
The “violence” gambit only came into play AFTER the school got in hot water over this. When then principal banned the poem and the wreath-laying, she was all about how “rude” Till was and that his actions were “sexual harrassment”. It was only in the later CYA mode that the principal’s boss brought up the “too violent for little kids” argument.
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BW Scott @ 69
Absolutely, it is our history. And our shame.
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Mary McCurnin @ 74
Did he actually whistle or is that what the murderers said he did?
Censorship — there’s a lot of it around, and it often masquerades as concern.
Here in Toronto My Name is Rachel Corrie was cancelled. Apparently it had upset a lady who had given a ton of $ to the theatre company. And as a patron of the arts, she had some clout. But the official reason was that “It didn’t seem as powerful on the stage as it did on the page,” according to artistic producer Martin Bragg.
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I have a little different perspective and am still working on how to articulate it. I had an unexpected and very strong negative reaction to Jello’s comment at 10. Yes young children need to be protected from violence. Jello’s children are protected, as they deserve to be. Iraqi children are equally deserving of protection, as are all children around the world who are exposed to jeopardy because of violence, poverty, and various isms. Where is the protection for those children?
Where was the protection for Emmett Till, where is the respect for his memory and his place in history in that shallow, shallow charter school. Do all charter schools promote dress for success values at the expense of providing a real education that teaches history, that nurtures respect? Perhaps the failures of public education are ours for not demanding accountability (and I attended public schools as a lower income student). How can we educate for the future without an understanding of how our present has been shaped by our past? Any school that ignores significant events in our history short-changes its students, the parents who entrust that school with the education of their children (whether those parents have the sense to understand that), and the communities which will eventually be shaped by the values, beliefs and behaviors of those students as they become adults. Lots more, but I need to think this through without the choking anger and disgust I am experiencing at this moment. And I agree, Phoenix Woman, I really, really like your posts here at FDL. I am mostly a lurker, but couldn’t let this one go by without a comment.
neurophius @ 84
Comments were weird there for a couple moments.
hotflash – bad link @ 85
mui @ 61
Christy used the word “kindergartners” which is probably where you got that from. I thought the same thing.
Ooooh. Gore looks & sounds so presidential! (rowrr)
i’ll tell you all what. i’ll take this thing from the point of view of a kid.
when i moved from the portland, oregon public schools to the berkeley, california public schools in 1974, it was still a whole year before i was told, for the first time ever in 5th grade, that european americans had owned kidnapped africans on this continent and that we fought a civil war, in part, to end this brutal anachronism. i also discovered at that time that the spaniards had not only owned a great many native people as slaves, but extirminated quite a few more.
so i was about ten years old. how did i feel when told about these things in school?
i was pissed off – PISSED OFF – that no one had told me sooner. it’s EXACTLY as some of you say – all manner of blood, sex, mayhem, gore, and political incorrectness was just fine and dandy…..if it was “en thuh BAH-bul”. if it was in our history? “not suitable for children”. this made me angry, so angry that it rings for me even to this day – i felt lied to and betrayed by the world of adults.
of course, then i found out about the Holocaust the following year.
OK, since I’ve already established myself as an occasional blog-hog, I waited until after the thread changed to toss this long one out..
Fiction from the future of American Education.
My point is, relative to this thread, if we provided a standard cirriculum that even private schools would be required to teach, then if they choose, to refute, at least our children would hear the truth before they hear the lies. Here’s a way to provide that cirriculum.
I wrote this in 1998… go figure.
“K-12″ HEADLINES FROM THE FUTURE OF AMERICAN EDUCATION; by “The Unknown
Candidate” CA. 2006, JULY 4 WEEKEND, FROM Hutchinson, Kansas,
During a gala V.I.P. celebration at the first graduation ceremonies of
NASA University in Hutchinson, Kansas, President Gore dedicated the official
uplink of the Franklin Digital Public Education signal to the newly named
Christa McCauliffe Satellite School, in synchronous orbit directly overhead.
The signal was immediately broadcast back to more than two thousand public and
countless private receiving dishes in schools and homes across the nation.
In a ceremony that initiated the highly popular, but politically
controversial National Digital Satellite School, dubbed “K-12″ by its
originators, Gore spoke to an enthusiastic crowd of mixed educational,
aeronautical, political and corporate icons, along with the first graduating
class and most of the underclassmen of the new NASA School of Space Flight, at Iowa State University in Ames.
The president drew a standing ovation when he referred to NASA’s
turn-of-the-millenium conversion from a “cold-war military laboratory…, into
a comprehensive, world-class educational institution.
“We stand on the threshold of a greater age,” Gore began, “Now, more than
ever in our nation’s history, we hold a key to democracy that our founders
could only dream of at our nation’s inception. Thomas Jefferson and Ben
Franklin both recognized the essential value of public education, to provide
our citizens their most important tool for an effective democracy …
Knowledge.
Throughout our nation’s colonial and democratic history, educators have
sought to offer students access to this knowledge, in its most efficient and
fluent form. In our nation’s infancy, this endeavor became manifest in a
thousand bell-towered buildings, each holding a single class of children of
all ages. Not only were they able to effectively learn in this pioneer
environment, they also had a chance to teach what they learned to younger
classmates. Surely, our nation’s greatness was born in that one-room
schoolhouse. The idealogical seeds of our democracy were sown and nurtured
there.
But as it crossed the centuries, that one-room schoolhouse was transformed into a costly,
fragmented mosaic of inefficiency, plagued with bureaucratic excess and
crumbling superstructure. Diffused the lack of national standards, the house of American education was divided against itself. Itcould not stand. Compared to their Asian and European counterparts, American
students toppled from their lofty perch of excellence into the obscurity of
entrenched, self-perpetuating mediocrity.
In a single generation, this lack of vigilance and diligence towards our
educational system put our nation at risk. The evidence was clear. The
statistics coldly implied that we had a very serious problem. But recognizing
a problem is only the beginning. Through ten more years of conservative
agendas and taxpayer revolts, these problems languished and became entrenched.
By the time we developed our “Goals 2000″ education-standards program under
the first Clinton set our educational progress back immeasurably.
We were seeking guidance in formulating a national testing program and a
standard curriculum.
We looked for school systems and particular teachers who
consistently produced improvements in their students. As we compared their
success formulas, some very striking similarities were evident. In most cases,
these teachers prepared a separate computer study course for their top
students, to free more of their teaching time for students who needed personal
help. Many of these exemplary teachers grew up with the advent of the computer
generation, and their students were even more experienced with computers.
Their comprehensive study programs used videos, disks and other front-line technology to
provide more intensive learning than ever before.
Clearly, the advent of multimedia computers had opened a new window of
educational opportunity. We proceeded to embrace and develop this new
adding daily to the available reference resources for teachers to provide to
their students. The learning capacity of our nation’s youth had never been
better fulfilled. Their self-dependence was challenged and increased.
In its first form, this became the “Education Online” program that began
in l998, and resulted in the creation of our Franklin Education Database
Centers. But after the internet crash of 99′ left so many Franklin branches
with a blank screen, we decided to look for another, more reliable delivery
system for the Franklin signal.
At the same time, we were watching our space program end an era as a
space-hardware delivery contractor. We were looking for direction for NASA.
Like most of history’s great success stories, what began as a small seed of
reasoning, became a tree much greater than its planters could have ever hoped.
Just five years ago, as I began my first term in office, I would never have
imagined that, in my lifetime, I could push a button that would deliver an
entire in the continental United States. And who could have ever dreamed that NASA
might change from a cold-war military laboratory, and satellite delivery and
maintenance service, into a comprehensive, world-class educational
institution. Yet today, thanks to a nation of creative and courageous
citizens, we take this giant leap forward for mankind.
These graduates who sit before you are the first-fruits of our new Nasa
School of Space Flight at Iowa State.
They will go out across our nation to help local school systems establish their own digital programs.
As they identify those students who will best adapt to and excel with the
Franklin System, the nation’s crowded classes will grow smaller, along with
the local tax burdens. Our goal is to provide all our teachers with smaller
classes and better resources, but at a fraction of traditional costs.
Our founding fathers could hardly have foreseen the world of technology we know today.
But if all of history’s clues are correct, I feel certain they
would have been part of K-12, and by reason of their deep-buried roots in the
living history of American education, they stand with us here, today, as we
dedicate the one-room schoolhouse of the future.
And the decision to honor Christa McCauliff as we name our National
Eduaction Satellite puts a spirit of reborn fulfillemnt into our endeavors.
More than anyone in history, she gave her life for education, as she reached
into the heavens to teach to her students. We can not deny, or ever delete
that tragic day. But in our act today, we restore Christa’s name for all
students to remember not in tragedy, but in victory. Broadcasting through
this satellite named for her, we offer children throughout our nation a
quality education, free of charge, and available to any home or school system
in the country. By providing this standard of curriculum and testing, we free
our best teachers to spend their precious time with the students who need them the most.
And the testing standards that accompany the K-12 programming will help our
educators recognize and remedy problems before they become entrenched.
Christa McCauliff’s namesake will now shine brightly from the heavens, a
tiny hand-made star beaming more truth and understanding than any
constellation could ever pretend.
The mightiest light in the depth of space
will never shine so brightly. I hereby christen the Christa McCauliff
National Digital Satellite School.”
Phoenix Woman @
81
LAUSD decision making @ its finest. If there’s one thing I learned teaching high school in L.A. while getting my doctorate, it was that principals very rarely back off a decision like this one, higher ups inevitably support the principal, & layers of faux facts & justification take the place of honest discourse w/instructors & parents.
School based management implemented in LAUSD a few yrs. ago is theoretically supposed to head off lone, ill-considered decision making like that described in the above post…notice I said “theoretically.”
klem @
36
thanks for that – i remember hearing exactly the same thing. and at that place in that time, it didn’t much matter whether he did or didn’t whistle – he was a target and therefore condemned merely for the color of his skin. the “whistling” story was very likely concocted out of whole cloth – it certainly was neither the first nor the last fictional justification for violence against african americans.
Peterr @
49
I have to agree with this point, entirely. I grew up watching Vietnam on TV every evening, or the pictures of it in magazines. And that included some of the really horrible stuff, like the guy getting shot in the head. I was 6 or 7 when I saw that. I never forgot it. I saw the footage and photos after the assasinations of MLK and RFK. They were everywhere. They were terrible, but I don’t recall any children breaking down over them. Was all of that scary and disturbing and heartbreaking? Of course, but it was all of that to adults too.
Maybe the real concern is that such images won’t frighten the children, but will put an indelible stamp in their minds of how ugly war and racism are, enough that the idea of either will make them think twice about allowing it to happen, as it did to me.
very important correction, don’t know where those words disappeared to in the original..
“By the time we developed our “Goals 2000″ education-standards program under
the first Clinton administration, it was clear that prior leadership had set our educational progress back immeasurably.
We were seeking guidance in formulating a national testing program and a
standard curriculum
On-topic, I’m 44 (attended a fully-integrated public school, btw) and I personally don’t think much has changed in terms of the differences between “life lessons” learned in public vs. private schools, regardless of your race.
Insulation is the problem, not just teachers.
Maybe the real concern is that such images won’t frighten the children, but will put an indelible stamp in their minds of how ugly war and racism are, enough that the idea of either will make them think twice about allowing it to happen, as it did to me.
I took my 6 year old twins to an anti war demonstration this weekend. They were able to ask question that we could answer in an age appropriate way. I agree with your idea. I hope it will make them think about how children just like them are dying in another country because of the actions of our government.
woops, principals, I meant.
Please keep in mind that all Charter Schools are not alike. And they are not voucher systems. They are secular experimental/innovative schools run within the public school system. while conservatives like them, many are progressive. I would venture that almost all beat the urban public schools most of them compete with.
My kids are in a Charter School in Baltimore: it is progressive, has great teachers and parents who volunteer, and the kids are learning things they would not be learning at the local schools – like critical thinking. And they are not afraid. And the library has a hge circulation.
We fight the city for funding every year – every year there is a threat of closing because the city delays funding us until we have to take 60% of the per student cost in the rest of the system.
P J Evans @ 73
Hi PJ Evans – absolutely agree about Riordan as the first privateer leering at LAUSD from the LA Mayor’s office.
(and I may have overdone my snark…for all his faults, I do believe Antonio knew he was filing for mayor – both times).
So upset that she removed her child from the school?
What about the other parents? If they were so very offended…what actions did they take to put pressure on the administrators?
Somehow I don’t think they feel it is so important that they would put their child back in the crappy public school systems [/sarcasm]
Nazgul35 @ 102
What were the other schooling options in that area? There may be reasons why they didn’t pull their kids.
I do hope they are still going after the administrator’s job.
If I recall both books correctly, didn’t Ishmael Reed’s novel “Reckless Eyeballing” parody (among other things) an infamous remark by Susan Brownmiller about Till deserving his horrific fate because he whistled at a white woman while being a young African American man?
Reed’s 1980s book is virulently anti-feminist, but he was on target satirizing Brownmiller’s statement. Twenty year later, the same nonsense comes around again.
Good post–I hadn’t thought about the Reed-Brownmiller material for years.
My shoot from the hip reaction..Is there nothing that this kind of right wing values, like humanity maybe..We are a land of humanity like all other countries and to deny that and to put self aggrandizng power hungry bean counter conservatives in charge of the cookie jar always bodes ill for those in their penurious provincial sights..Emmet Till is an obscene aberration to them, it would never occur to these kinds of people that they, in point of fact, are the obscenity. Their feng shui is largely askew.
Emmet Till inspired the Civil Rights movment how can a charter school claim they provide a better education than a public school if their students don’t learn such an important part of history. Don’t these charter schools have any sort of minimal standards that they have to meet.
If discussing Till’s death is harmful for kindergarteners in America, what’s harmful to kindergarteners in Iraq?
This was a school presentation; the 7th graders were to present it to the whole school at an assembly, including the kindergarteners. And as the mom of a kindergartener, I have to say that while I disagree with firing the teachers and the way the whole thing was handled, I don’t think it is appropriate material for kids that young unless the parents are there to answer questions and/or decide if it’s OK for their kids to hear. We read the papers and explain those front page photos of Iraq and wounded soldiers to our 5 year old, who is bright enough and interested enough to handle it in the way we present it; other kids wouldn’t be.
[Mod Note; please have mercy on yr mods, only re-quote twice. Thanks]
Garbo: The whole “we shouldn’t expose kindergarteners to violence” excuse didn’t show up until AFTER the school got in trouble for the censorship, and was cited by the principal’s boss, NOT the principal (who is now being kept schtum). Up to then, the only reason cited by the principal was Emmett Till’s “sexual harrassment” of a white woman by whistling at her — for which he paid with his life.
Title of this post should be changed to “L.A.” etc.; it looks like it is referring to Louisiana, rather than Los Angeles, and at a glance, that ain’t right.
We have a failure of logic here. You are claiming that there are only two possibilities: (1)Till is a saintly role model who could have done no wrong or (2)Till deserved to be brutally murdered. If you don’t hold this view, then the school’s action is not unreasonable.
Garbo @ 108
My son was in kindergarten and first grade when his brother served in Iraq.
Sorry, I think he was old enough to understand what was happening, what was going to happen; he asked questions of a depth and nature I couldn’t have predicted. If the school needed to make any concession to younger children and their parents it would be to talk about concerns in advance of the presentation.
I would venture that almost all beat the urban public schools most of them compete with.
You would be wrong. Charter schools have been a miserable failure. Just another scam for the eternally gullible American public.
nabalzbbfr @
111
I am having trouble imagining a middle position that has Till guilty of enough wrong to justify his being tortured to death, or the trivialization of such a fate….
In my opinion, the charter school movement spells disaster for this nation, and it isn’t getting nearly the critical attention from progressives that it deserves. Everyone wants what’s best for the children, but if it’s our own children, and William Bennett’s legacy still haunts the local public school, then we tend to take the path of least resistance and buy our kids the better product.
The problem is, that by legitimizing charter schools, even if yours is “progressive,” you are not only enabling for-profit education in this country, you are in effect saying that it’s ok if the children of wingnuts grow up to be wingnut educated, because your child will be [insert worldview here] educated, thereby preserving an opposition that you are familiar with. I can’t think of a better recipe for entrenched factionalism. Further, from what I’ve observed, the charter schools that are supposedly saving the inner city are crossing boundaries that I am very uncomfortable with in their partnering with corporations. It might look like responsible community developmment if, say, UPS endows a south Chicago charter and offers its graduates internship and employment opportunites straight out of school; but what’s to prevent the schools from adjusting their curricular goals in order to serve their benefactors and make their students “better employees.” I’m not against employment, but I am against interfering with a child’s potential by tailoring their education to meet the needs of a service sector economy. Public education has a duty to cultivate excellent citizens. Charter schools have a duty to their shareholders, their corporate benefactors, and ideologues.
I dated a woman who was a grant writer for just such a school in just such a city, and would tell me all about the business side of things. She finally quit after uncovering the unbelievable depth of corporate interest and rightwing front company activity going on within the movement. I think the last straw was a link she discovered between Edison Schools, the Hoover Institute, and Pentagon planners. A quick search just now gave me this lovely piece of research:
http://www.watch.pair.com/charter10.html
Think there’s no connection between the privatization of the military and the privatization of k-12? Some kids are just born soldiers, I guess.
hell, read it from the beginning:
http://www.watch.pair.com/charter.html
There is a distinction between being a victim and being a martyr.
Whenever I read things like this, I’m reminded yet again how much I miss Molly Ivins.
She would have sliced that stupid charter school director to ribbons.
falasafa says:
March 21st, 2007 at 6:43 pm
Read enough to be sick..we are surrounded, circle the wagons and listen carefully because the enemy is stealthy, slick and comes at you from seeming nowhere, armed with money, lies as truth, and an agenda that does not include us except as dupes, and clueless victims. This is frightening stuff, sneaking sideways through the front door.
This is an opportunity…ORGANIZE!
Black History month and it wasn’t proper to read a poem about Emmitt Till’s death to kids about his own age? He didn’t live long enough to have left any other historical legacy. The principal of this charter school must not have known much about the Till case; and since she chose to ban it she should.
This was a 14 year old boy visiting his southern cousins and it was obvious from the interviews with his family that he didn’t know the “rules of conduct” for “keeping your place” in the South of the 1950s. Whether or not he whistled at a “white woman” is irrelevant, any society that believes torture and murder is the proper punishment for a whistle deserves to be condemned. And if it’s “sexual harrassment”, then over half of the male population of this country would either be in jail or dead.
If nothing else, the Till case can emphasize just exactly what constitutes a miscarriage of justice and that alone is enough to include him in Black History Month.