Comments on: Ignore the Bully and Broaden the Investigation, Dems http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/ignore-the-bully-and-broaden-the-investigation-dems/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:11:04 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: della Rovere http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/ignore-the-bully-and-broaden-the-investigation-dems/#comment-575206 della Rovere Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:59:26 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/ignore-the-bully-and-broaden-the-investigation-dems/#comment-575206 <p>we have left the “dear leader” pose and now have the bluff and bluster,”il duce” pose. Hopefully the Dems will not wait until we get to “der fuhrer”, before challenging the most hated man in America.</p> we have left the “dear leader” pose and now have the bluff and bluster,”il duce” pose. Hopefully the Dems will not wait until we get to “der fuhrer”, before challenging the most hated man in America.

]]> By: val in canada http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/ignore-the-bully-and-broaden-the-investigation-dems/#comment-575111 val in canada Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:06:34 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/ignore-the-bully-and-broaden-the-investigation-dems/#comment-575111 <p>two things one cannot ignore:: the law<br /> and bloggers! thank you so much for all this analysis.<br /> it is very fine, all senses.</p> two things one cannot ignore:: the law
and bloggers! thank you so much for all this analysis.
it is very fine, all senses.

]]> By: JR http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/ignore-the-bully-and-broaden-the-investigation-dems/#comment-574758 JR Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:13:48 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/ignore-the-bully-and-broaden-the-investigation-dems/#comment-574758 <p><em>“I’m still surprised that of all the lies, crimes and outrages in the Bush/Cheney regime, the USA matter could become the vehicle for the Bush vs Congressional confrontation.”</em></p> <p>Appointment of USA’s is a valued senatorial perogative. By custom no USA is appointed without the recommendation of the senators from the state who are of the same party as the President. Now you see why they are in such trouble in the Senate. Commit all the crimes you want, boyo, but don’t fuck with my patronage.</p> “I’m still surprised that of all the lies, crimes and outrages in the Bush/Cheney regime, the USA matter could become the vehicle for the Bush vs Congressional confrontation.”

Appointment of USA’s is a valued senatorial perogative. By custom no USA is appointed without the recommendation of the senators from the state who are of the same party as the President. Now you see why they are in such trouble in the Senate. Commit all the crimes you want, boyo, but don’t fuck with my patronage.

]]> By: HotFlash http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/ignore-the-bully-and-broaden-the-investigation-dems/#comment-574754 HotFlash Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:13:37 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/ignore-the-bully-and-broaden-the-investigation-dems/#comment-574754 <p><a href="#comment-574654"><em>sedrunsic @ 178</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>as a side-note:</p> <p>Might it be safe to say Cheney can kiss Iran bye-bye as the democratic investigative machine consumes the remainder of the WH’s resources as it fights for [political] survival?</p></blockquote> <p>Wouldn’t *that* be nice?</p> sedrunsic @ 178

as a side-note:

Might it be safe to say Cheney can kiss Iran bye-bye as the democratic investigative machine consumes the remainder of the WH’s resources as it fights for [political] survival?

Wouldn’t *that* be nice?

]]> By: sedrunsic http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/ignore-the-bully-and-broaden-the-investigation-dems/#comment-574654 sedrunsic Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:27:04 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/ignore-the-bully-and-broaden-the-investigation-dems/#comment-574654 <p>as a side-note:</p> <p>Might it be safe to say Cheney can kiss Iran bye-bye as the democratic investigative machine consumes the remainder of the WH’s resources as it fights for [political] survival?</p> as a side-note:

Might it be safe to say Cheney can kiss Iran bye-bye as the democratic investigative machine consumes the remainder of the WH’s resources as it fights for [political] survival?

]]> By: Mommybrain http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/ignore-the-bully-and-broaden-the-investigation-dems/#comment-574594 Mommybrain Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:59:59 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/ignore-the-bully-and-broaden-the-investigation-dems/#comment-574594 <p>It sure struck me when the story first broke, as I read the list of states the USAs were fired from, that they were all/mostly Dem states - CA, MD (pardon me, I’m rushing to get ready for work and can’t remember the rest). Anyone else think it’s a little fishy?</p> It sure struck me when the story first broke, as I read the list of states the USAs were fired from, that they were all/mostly Dem states – CA, MD (pardon me, I’m rushing to get ready for work and can’t remember the rest). Anyone else think it’s a little fishy?

]]> By: nrglaw http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/ignore-the-bully-and-broaden-the-investigation-dems/#comment-574591 nrglaw Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:58:53 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/ignore-the-bully-and-broaden-the-investigation-dems/#comment-574591 <p>Expanding the investigation might be warranted, but it’s probably not good tactics. </p> <p>As things stand, we have a narrow, clearly defined subject for inquiry, one that the public can (more or less) understand. And we have a good start to discovery by Congress. Executive privilege is a good battleground for Congress is this case; Bush’s general argument that WH aides are, essentially, immune from Congressional subpoena is way too broad. It proves too much, as lawyers say. Further, I think that there are five justices (at least) on the Supreme Court who will side with the Congress on this one (Ginzberg, Breyer, Stevens, Souter, and (yes) Kennedy); Roberts will have to show who he is once and for all. My bet is that the Chief votes against the WH.</p> <p>A wide-ranging inquiry into “what’s wrong at Justice” (even if the answer is damned near everything) is both too poorly defined for the public to get their mind around and too mushy to attract much GOP support on the Hill.</p> <p>I sure as hell agree with the main message, though. Testimony on the record and under oath.</p> <p>Let’s hope Leahy is really as pissed as he seems to be.</p> Expanding the investigation might be warranted, but it’s probably not good tactics.

As things stand, we have a narrow, clearly defined subject for inquiry, one that the public can (more or less) understand. And we have a good start to discovery by Congress. Executive privilege is a good battleground for Congress is this case; Bush’s general argument that WH aides are, essentially, immune from Congressional subpoena is way too broad. It proves too much, as lawyers say. Further, I think that there are five justices (at least) on the Supreme Court who will side with the Congress on this one (Ginzberg, Breyer, Stevens, Souter, and (yes) Kennedy); Roberts will have to show who he is once and for all. My bet is that the Chief votes against the WH.

A wide-ranging inquiry into “what’s wrong at Justice” (even if the answer is damned near everything) is both too poorly defined for the public to get their mind around and too mushy to attract much GOP support on the Hill.

I sure as hell agree with the main message, though. Testimony on the record and under oath.

Let’s hope Leahy is really as pissed as he seems to be.

]]> By: HotFlash http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/ignore-the-bully-and-broaden-the-investigation-dems/#comment-574575 HotFlash Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:41:28 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/ignore-the-bully-and-broaden-the-investigation-dems/#comment-574575 <p><a href="#comment-574558"><em>Mary4 @ 172</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Possible crimes:</p> <p>And while they are investigating the removals, it would be nice to get someone at DOJ to confirm, in writing, that there was no modification of, or interference with, the Special Prosecutor’s delegation of authority in the leak investigation and a request for the Rove letter. JMO</p></blockquote> <p>Mary, I love you. Why Fitz wrote to Comey for clarification. And Fitz says it would be improper for him to give his <em>opinion</em> on the Plame investigation, but he sure was holding the door open. Be still my beating heart! Oh God, letters to Levin and Conyers, request the Fitz tell you about any calls he got trying to influence. You *know* they tried.</p> Mary4 @ 172

Possible crimes:

And while they are investigating the removals, it would be nice to get someone at DOJ to confirm, in writing, that there was no modification of, or interference with, the Special Prosecutor’s delegation of authority in the leak investigation and a request for the Rove letter. JMO

Mary, I love you. Why Fitz wrote to Comey for clarification. And Fitz says it would be improper for him to give his opinion on the Plame investigation, but he sure was holding the door open. Be still my beating heart! Oh God, letters to Levin and Conyers, request the Fitz tell you about any calls he got trying to influence. You *know* they tried.

]]> By: J. Thomason http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/ignore-the-bully-and-broaden-the-investigation-dems/#comment-574570 J. Thomason Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:38:49 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/ignore-the-bully-and-broaden-the-investigation-dems/#comment-574570 <p>Mary4. Now there is a right sized big picture.</p> Mary4. Now there is a right sized big picture.

]]> By: HotFlash http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/ignore-the-bully-and-broaden-the-investigation-dems/#comment-574565 HotFlash Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:35:34 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/21/ignore-the-bully-and-broaden-the-investigation-dems/#comment-574565 <p><a href="#comment-574441"><em>phred @ 166</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Emptywheel — I second Scarecrow’s comment of “great insight”! Although the Arkansas USA seemed an obvious placement to go after Hillary, I had not considered the 8 in terms of the electoral map and an attempt to retake the majority in Congress. Now that you mention it, it seems obvious. Adds another delectable layer onto this tasty cake of scandal. You’re a genius…</p> <p>Perhaps another sound bite for Dems to consider would be Elections Tampering…</p></blockquote> <p>Elections tampering. I like it.</p> phred @ 166

Emptywheel — I second Scarecrow’s comment of “great insight”! Although the Arkansas USA seemed an obvious placement to go after Hillary, I had not considered the 8 in terms of the electoral map and an attempt to retake the majority in Congress. Now that you mention it, it seems obvious. Adds another delectable layer onto this tasty cake of scandal. You’re a genius…

Perhaps another sound bite for Dems to consider would be Elections Tampering…

Elections tampering. I like it.

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