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		<title>By: JT</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/20/are-you-stuck-in-the-health-care-hustle/#comment-575471</link>
		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 22:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m lucky to have very good health insurance.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Still, a series of family medical disasters have put me $10k or so in the hole due to various deductables (yeah, $1K per person per hospital visit, $2K max per person per year - do the math). Fortunately, we’re not doing so badly. I wonder about others.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But the real problem, which never occurred to me before this happened, is that I can no longer move jobs easily. I had to refuse a job that would have made me more money - enough more to purchase my own health care, under normal circumstances. But I have at least one family member who is flat-out uninsurable due to hard-to-treat cancer. And so I have to stay. I’d like to switch to independent contractor status, but I’d have to double my income to be able to afford that, if indeed I could afford it at all, given the “uninsurable” scarlet letter we wear.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So I have very good health insurance, and yet I’m not protected very much at all. I can’t afford to switch jobs unless it gets me on a big health plan where I can’t be rejected. And even with our insurance, financial disaster (as in, raid every available dollar from our future, sell our house, and rent, and still be likely to go bankrupt) is a very real possibility - change of employment, plus a somewhat likely next crisis, and it’s all over.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’ve been very lucky - the health care I have has been great, but if a high degree of employability, a solid above-middle-class income, and a good health plan aren’t enough to protect me and my family from poverty, then the system has already failed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Truly, the folks against universal health care are indulging in ivory tower fantasies. Remember the “gold-plated health plans” line from the SOTU? Don’t hear that any more, do we. Because it went over like a led zeppelin with everyone who hasn’t got multi-millions in the bank. Because everyone gets sick and dies eventually, so every family knows about having to deal with health crises, and what it costs them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;American health care is great. But the way we pay for it is utterly broken. And it hurts us individually and as competitors in a global economy.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m lucky to have very good health insurance.</p>
<p>Still, a series of family medical disasters have put me $10k or so in the hole due to various deductables (yeah, $1K per person per hospital visit, $2K max per person per year &#8211; do the math). Fortunately, we’re not doing so badly. I wonder about others.</p>
<p>But the real problem, which never occurred to me before this happened, is that I can no longer move jobs easily. I had to refuse a job that would have made me more money &#8211; enough more to purchase my own health care, under normal circumstances. But I have at least one family member who is flat-out uninsurable due to hard-to-treat cancer. And so I have to stay. I’d like to switch to independent contractor status, but I’d have to double my income to be able to afford that, if indeed I could afford it at all, given the “uninsurable” scarlet letter we wear.</p>
<p>So I have very good health insurance, and yet I’m not protected very much at all. I can’t afford to switch jobs unless it gets me on a big health plan where I can’t be rejected. And even with our insurance, financial disaster (as in, raid every available dollar from our future, sell our house, and rent, and still be likely to go bankrupt) is a very real possibility &#8211; change of employment, plus a somewhat likely next crisis, and it’s all over.</p>
<p>I’ve been very lucky &#8211; the health care I have has been great, but if a high degree of employability, a solid above-middle-class income, and a good health plan aren’t enough to protect me and my family from poverty, then the system has already failed.</p>
<p>Truly, the folks against universal health care are indulging in ivory tower fantasies. Remember the “gold-plated health plans” line from the SOTU? Don’t hear that any more, do we. Because it went over like a led zeppelin with everyone who hasn’t got multi-millions in the bank. Because everyone gets sick and dies eventually, so every family knows about having to deal with health crises, and what it costs them.</p>
<p>American health care is great. But the way we pay for it is utterly broken. And it hurts us individually and as competitors in a global economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Strand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Strand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Please take a look at SB 840 authored by CA Senator Sheila Keuhl.  Comprehensive Single Payer Health Care FOR ALL CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS!&lt;br /&gt;
This bill benefits everyone but the Insurance industry.&lt;br /&gt;
This bill passed both houses of the leg, and then sat on Der Gropenfeuhrer’s desk for 2 weeks until he vetoed it.  It’s been reintroduced and should come under fierce attack by the industry.  However, labor, grassroots and consumer groups in the California Health Care Coalition are being joined by employers who also can no longer pay annual double digit increases.&lt;br /&gt;
This bill should be the model for the nation.&lt;br /&gt;
Check it out, and if you are a CA resident - join the coalition and demand that your representatives support it.  If you are out of staters, ask you local leg to come up with similar language.&lt;br /&gt;
BTW, Der Gropen’s successful re-election campaign was GENEROUSLY supported by inusrance industry - go figure.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please take a look at SB 840 authored by CA Senator Sheila Keuhl.  Comprehensive Single Payer Health Care FOR ALL CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS!<br />
This bill benefits everyone but the Insurance industry.<br />
This bill passed both houses of the leg, and then sat on Der Gropenfeuhrer’s desk for 2 weeks until he vetoed it.  It’s been reintroduced and should come under fierce attack by the industry.  However, labor, grassroots and consumer groups in the California Health Care Coalition are being joined by employers who also can no longer pay annual double digit increases.<br />
This bill should be the model for the nation.<br />
Check it out, and if you are a CA resident &#8211; join the coalition and demand that your representatives support it.  If you are out of staters, ask you local leg to come up with similar language.<br />
BTW, Der Gropen’s successful re-election campaign was GENEROUSLY supported by inusrance industry &#8211; go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: peanutgallery</title>
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		<dc:creator>peanutgallery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-574293&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;WereBear @&lt;br /&gt;
                96              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I’ve had a two month crash course in the system since my mom’s diagnosis with pancreatic cancer. This disease is so grim and the mainstream has so little to offer, we immediately went straight to the “alternative” track. I’ve been shocked to learn how many promising, natural, cheap and effective cancer approaches there are and more shocked at how the doctors who explore them are literally ostracized, ridiculed, defrocked, and persecuted,etc. Truly unbelievable.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is unbelievable, and I’m glad more people are realizing how much “cancer treatment” is a sham.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The present options are too often incredibly toxic, hideously expensive, and potentially life destroying.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m starting to read more and more stories about people who are told they have beaten cancer only to come down with another life threatening illness related to their treatment, such as anemia, heart problems, circulatory collapse, and organ failure.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How much sense does it make to treat cancer with carcinogenic treatments like most chemotherapy and radiation?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Pharmaceutical companies ignore non-toxic treatments because they can’t patent them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This site will give more information:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cancerdecisions.com&quot;&gt;http://www.cancerdecisions.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Getting health care for everyone is only part of the battle. The American Public should demand BETTER health care, too.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Many thanks for the link!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-574293"><em>WereBear @<br />
                96              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><blockquote>I’ve had a two month crash course in the system since my mom’s diagnosis with pancreatic cancer. This disease is so grim and the mainstream has so little to offer, we immediately went straight to the “alternative” track. I’ve been shocked to learn how many promising, natural, cheap and effective cancer approaches there are and more shocked at how the doctors who explore them are literally ostracized, ridiculed, defrocked, and persecuted,etc. Truly unbelievable.</p></blockquote>
<p>It is unbelievable, and I’m glad more people are realizing how much “cancer treatment” is a sham.</p>
<p>The present options are too often incredibly toxic, hideously expensive, and potentially life destroying.</p>
<p>I’m starting to read more and more stories about people who are told they have beaten cancer only to come down with another life threatening illness related to their treatment, such as anemia, heart problems, circulatory collapse, and organ failure.</p>
<p>How much sense does it make to treat cancer with carcinogenic treatments like most chemotherapy and radiation?</p>
<p>Pharmaceutical companies ignore non-toxic treatments because they can’t patent them.</p>
<p>This site will give more information:<br />
<a href="http://www.cancerdecisions.com">http://www.cancerdecisions.com</a></p>
<p>Getting health care for everyone is only part of the battle. The American Public should demand BETTER health care, too.</p>
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<p>Many thanks for the link!</p>
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		<title>By: A Hermit</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/20/are-you-stuck-in-the-health-care-hustle/#comment-574564</link>
		<dc:creator>A Hermit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My wife broke her wrist while skating over the Christmas holiday (”broke” is an understatement, she’s slowly regaining the use of her fingers right now.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We had to drive an hour from the resort to the nearest emergency room, where she had an x-ray and a shot of morphine, then a half hour drive to the closest hospital with an orthopedic surgeon. She stayed overnight, had surgery (two pins in her wrist) the next morning, stayed in hospital another day had weekly visits with her surgeon, two visits with our GP and biweekly physiotherapy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Our only out of pocket expense was for painkillers, and the cost is deductible at tax time. (and I’m willing to bet I don’t pay substantially more in taxes than someone in the same income bracket in the US.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s public health care in Canada. I can’t fathom why the US can’t do at least as well. For a family to face bankruptcy because their child was injured is just criminal.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife broke her wrist while skating over the Christmas holiday (”broke” is an understatement, she’s slowly regaining the use of her fingers right now.)</p>
<p>We had to drive an hour from the resort to the nearest emergency room, where she had an x-ray and a shot of morphine, then a half hour drive to the closest hospital with an orthopedic surgeon. She stayed overnight, had surgery (two pins in her wrist) the next morning, stayed in hospital another day had weekly visits with her surgeon, two visits with our GP and biweekly physiotherapy.</p>
<p>Our only out of pocket expense was for painkillers, and the cost is deductible at tax time. (and I’m willing to bet I don’t pay substantially more in taxes than someone in the same income bracket in the US.)</p>
<p>That’s public health care in Canada. I can’t fathom why the US can’t do at least as well. For a family to face bankruptcy because their child was injured is just criminal.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;our new democratic gov in ohio, ted strickland, proposed in his state of the state speech–&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;medicaid for family of four making under 62, 000==those at 300% of poverty rate……&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;those who make more than that can buy into program…….&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>our new democratic gov in ohio, ted strickland, proposed in his state of the state speech–</p>
<p>medicaid for family of four making under 62, 000==those at 300% of poverty rate……</p>
<p>those who make more than that can buy into program…….</p>
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		<title>By: WereBear</title>
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		<dc:creator>WereBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I’ve had a two month crash course in the system since my mom’s diagnosis with pancreatic cancer. This disease is so grim and the mainstream has so little to offer, we immediately went straight to the “alternative” track. I’ve been shocked to learn how many promising, natural, cheap and effective cancer approaches there are and more shocked at how the doctors who explore them are literally ostracized, ridiculed, defrocked, and persecuted,etc. Truly unbelievable.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is unbelievable, and I’m glad more people are realizing how much “cancer treatment” is a sham.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The present options are too often incredibly toxic, hideously expensive, and potentially life destroying.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m starting to read more and more stories about people who are told they have beaten cancer only to come down with another life threatening illness related to their treatment, such as anemia, heart problems, circulatory collapse, and organ failure.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How much sense does it make to treat cancer with carcinogenic treatments like most chemotherapy and radiation?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Pharmaceutical companies ignore non-toxic treatments because they can’t patent them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This site will give more information:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cancerdecisions.com&quot;&gt;http://www.cancerdecisions.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Getting health care for everyone is only part of the battle. The American Public should demand BETTER health care, too.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’ve had a two month crash course in the system since my mom’s diagnosis with pancreatic cancer. This disease is so grim and the mainstream has so little to offer, we immediately went straight to the “alternative” track. I’ve been shocked to learn how many promising, natural, cheap and effective cancer approaches there are and more shocked at how the doctors who explore them are literally ostracized, ridiculed, defrocked, and persecuted,etc. Truly unbelievable.</p>
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<p>It is unbelievable, and I’m glad more people are realizing how much “cancer treatment” is a sham.</p>
<p>The present options are too often incredibly toxic, hideously expensive, and potentially life destroying.</p>
<p>I’m starting to read more and more stories about people who are told they have beaten cancer only to come down with another life threatening illness related to their treatment, such as anemia, heart problems, circulatory collapse, and organ failure.</p>
<p>How much sense does it make to treat cancer with carcinogenic treatments like most chemotherapy and radiation?</p>
<p>Pharmaceutical companies ignore non-toxic treatments because they can’t patent them.</p>
<p>This site will give more information:<br />
<a href="http://www.cancerdecisions.com">http://www.cancerdecisions.com</a></p>
<p>Getting health care for everyone is only part of the battle. The American Public should demand BETTER health care, too.</p>
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		<title>By: mui</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/20/are-you-stuck-in-the-health-care-hustle/#comment-574237</link>
		<dc:creator>mui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;BTW. I wholeheartedly recommend the Angell book to anyone who is interested in the Big Pharma’s role in the healthcare crisis.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW. I wholeheartedly recommend the Angell book to anyone who is interested in the Big Pharma’s role in the healthcare crisis.</p>
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		<title>By: mui</title>
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		<dc:creator>mui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Earlier this year, in its first 100 days, the new House passed by a 255–170 vote a bill that will require Medicare to negotiate with drug companies for lower prices. But, so far, no action in the Senate.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Hooyah!&lt;br /&gt;
O.K. As citizens let’s try and think of ways to pressure the senate to do the right thing.&lt;br /&gt;
Unfortunately  one of “my” senators is Lieberman and he is on the take. But Dodd maybe . . .&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Earlier this year, in its first 100 days, the new House passed by a 255–170 vote a bill that will require Medicare to negotiate with drug companies for lower prices. But, so far, no action in the Senate.</i><br />
Hooyah!<br />
O.K. As citizens let’s try and think of ways to pressure the senate to do the right thing.<br />
Unfortunately  one of “my” senators is Lieberman and he is on the take. But Dodd maybe . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Pharo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Pharo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This dairy and thread should be enough to make anyone cry.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We have abandoned the government as a vehicle for carrying out our wishes and emobodying our values.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All for lack of proper leadership.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am uninsured, have kids, and live in almost hourly dread that someone will get hurt and need healthcare.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This dairy and thread should be enough to make anyone cry.</p>
<p>We have abandoned the government as a vehicle for carrying out our wishes and emobodying our values.</p>
<p>All for lack of proper leadership.</p>
<p>I am uninsured, have kids, and live in almost hourly dread that someone will get hurt and need healthcare.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Bush Goes To Hell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Bush Goes To Hell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 07:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just got 30K worth of healthcare for FREE!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2 CT scans, a colonoscopy, endoscopy, complete physical, and a double hernia operation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Total value about 30K.  I am obligated for the anesthesia of about $1642.00, which I am also trying to get dropped.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My secret???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m BROKE.  No income, looking for work, no health insurance.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But for the good folks of the Pacific Northwest, of which I am now a resident, I would have been fukkked!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have NEVER collected welfare (I have nothing against folks who have a true need–that’s what it is there for), and I collected unemployment for THREE WEEKS in 1984, so save the “welfare bum” bullzhit…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I came to the end of the rope where I needed the care, and I was helped.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is NOT possible to give everyone the same ECONOMIC start in life.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is EXACTLY what we SHOULD DO from a health care basis–an equal shot at HEALTH.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks to the good folks of the GREAT State of Washington.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got 30K worth of healthcare for FREE!!</p>
<p>2 CT scans, a colonoscopy, endoscopy, complete physical, and a double hernia operation.</p>
<p>Total value about 30K.  I am obligated for the anesthesia of about $1642.00, which I am also trying to get dropped.</p>
<p>My secret???</p>
<p>I’m BROKE.  No income, looking for work, no health insurance.</p>
<p>But for the good folks of the Pacific Northwest, of which I am now a resident, I would have been fukkked!!!</p>
<p>I have NEVER collected welfare (I have nothing against folks who have a true need–that’s what it is there for), and I collected unemployment for THREE WEEKS in 1984, so save the “welfare bum” bullzhit…</p>
<p>I came to the end of the rope where I needed the care, and I was helped.</p>
<p>It is NOT possible to give everyone the same ECONOMIC start in life.</p>
<p>It is EXACTLY what we SHOULD DO from a health care basis–an equal shot at HEALTH.</p>
<p>Thanks to the good folks of the GREAT State of Washington.</p>
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