Sorry I posted the above before I saw this link, there’s just SOOO much to read this week, isn’t there?

Anyhoo, the question still bears asking: Do these guys intend on legally challenging their own CIA Director?

I believe I saw this in a double-feature, with Vicky starring in a feature opposite her SS sister, Ilsa.

Messages, to be exact. And there is certainly one other piece of correspondence, and almost certainly another, that fit the bill as well. First, and most certainly, the fax from Grossman to Powell of the INR memo and who knows what else; Armitage probably recounted the story to Novak too. Second, the briefing book Rice got in preparation for the Sunday talkshows, which almost certainly contained lots of information on Wilson’s mission. I’m sure there were other things as well.

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Go back and read Tenet’s statements about bombing the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade. Either the Chinese had radar on their roof aiding the Serbs in shooting down the US Stealth bomber and the bombing was intentional or Tenet is a complete fool with no spotters. What Tenet did pre 9/11 was hardly pulling his hair out or shouting alarms. HE NEVER STARTED THE ARABIC LANGUAGE RECRUITING AND TRAINING PROGRAMS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN STARTED UNDER THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION AT THE CIA. HIS BIN LADEN DESK CONSISTED OF ONE PERSON, IF YOU RECALL. THE GUY IS HORRIFIC, THE BANALITY OF EVIL IF YOU WILL.

Remember the book Tenet is writing? Seems that he’s about 98% done with it, months ago. Apparently what’s holding it up is that he’s not sure how to spin his relationship with key figures. For example, there is a little distance between defending himself against Bushco, and a frontal attack on Bushco. Tenet knows where all the bodies are buried, and is trying to figure out how to best use that knowledge, because this book will probably shape the rest of his life, not to mention his legacy. But if he lets it all hang out too soon, then he becomes a material witness, and he probably doesn’t want that.

Bob in HI

if you go back and look at looseheadprop’s 3/17 essay on INSTA-DE-CLASSIFICATION maybe it will help answer your questions …

http://www.firedoglake.com/200…../#comments

Off topic again…

There is a lot of bashing about VT’s appearance. While I understand the blogosphere is full of snark, her appearance is the least of our problems. Let’s hit her with issues instead of schoolyard taunts.

Snark is like salt: a little flavors the food, a lot spoils the taste. Restraint is the best policy.

Bob in HI

I’m also confused about the “Flame” story, I first heard of Valerie as “Flame” on NPR. Did Novak change the spelling in his article, after someone reviewed it?

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who is this victoria? Is every former staffer on the Senate Intelligence Committee of the lack of quality of Tenet, Toensing. I really fail to understand why Tenet and Toensing are allowed to strut. Do you remember it was Tenet who blamed the “accidental” bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade on an out of date tourist street map embedded in the CIA data bank. It was a bright green building standing out. This is the same slam dunk stooge who was kissing the ass of Bush. It is just disgusting that we have these stooges and bimbos in positions of importance. Remember who appointed Tenet.

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Ummm, I think it was Clinton who appointed Tenet, wasn’t it?
You know, I don’t think we have the whole story about what Tenet did or didn’t do. Maybe he truly was an asskisser par excellance. Or maybe the WH made up a lot of the stuff about ’slam dunks’. Something tells me that he did not convince them that he was a ‘Loyal Bushie’ and they were probably glad that he resigned because he wasn’t taking the hint.
We may never know until this set of Republicans is out of office and the true story can be told.

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if you imply so mush as a doubt about the incompetence of Tenet, remember he was the guy who sat behind Powell at the UN speech when that bs was issued. Actually it seems that Tenet was more comfortable with Bush than with Clinton. I suppose Clinton could be considered smarter than Bush in some ways. Tenet is out with Cheney because Tenet made the criminal referral in the Libby (then only a disclosure issue) case to DOJ (probably thinking that was the best way to cover his ass), but well before Tenet had any sense the WH was involved. Do you know that Tenet is reported to have driven to the WH every business morning to brief Bush. The amount of waste of time, ass kissing and incompetence by this guy is just beyond cavil.

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Maybe, maybe not. We’ve only had part of the story. How you go from running around with your hair on fire pre 9/11 to selling out in front of the UN is anyone’s guess. What Powell and Tenet did at the UN damaged their credibility enormously but that doesn’t mean they were team players or that statements attributed to them are true. We just have no way of knowing. We see through a glass darkly right now. Someday, the events in question may look completely different.

Go back and read Tenet’s statements about bombing the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade. Either the Chinese had radar on their roof aiding the Serbs in shooting down the US Stealth bomber and the bombing was intentional or Tenet is a complete fool with no spotters. What Tenet did pre 9/11 was hardly pulling his hair out or shouting alarms. HE NEVER STARTED THE ARABIC LANGUAGE RECRUITING AND TRAINING PROGRAMS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN STARTED UNDER THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION AT THE CIA. HIS BIN LADEN DESK CONSISTED OF ONE PERSON, IF YOU RECALL. THE GUY IS HORRIFIC, THE BANALITY OF EVIL IF YOU WILL.