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		<title>By: aterrificjob</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/the-lunch-bunch-2/#comment-571232</link>
		<dc:creator>aterrificjob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 09:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;From WaPo - FITZ!  I wondered where he was on the list of Bushie-prosecutors and Baddie-prosecutors.&lt;br /&gt;
“U.S. Attorney Patrick J. Fitzgerald was ranked among prosecutors who had “not distinguished themselves” on a Justice Department chart sent to the White House in March 2005, when he was in the midst of leading the CIA leak investigation that resulted in the perjury conviction of a vice presidential aide, administration officials said yesterday.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From WaPo &#8211; FITZ!  I wondered where he was on the list of Bushie-prosecutors and Baddie-prosecutors.<br />
“U.S. Attorney Patrick J. Fitzgerald was ranked among prosecutors who had “not distinguished themselves” on a Justice Department chart sent to the White House in March 2005, when he was in the midst of leading the CIA leak investigation that resulted in the perjury conviction of a vice presidential aide, administration officials said yesterday.”</p>
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		<title>By: tedb</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/the-lunch-bunch-2/#comment-570489</link>
		<dc:creator>tedb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Christy,  I am just starting the Wolff piece in VF.  Wolff writes that “Fitzgerald, aware, no doubt, of the weakness of the charges—mere perjury and obstruction, acts of omission rather than commission—and, perhaps, defensive about the tens of millions he’d spent to produce them,….”&lt;br /&gt;
WTF???!!??&lt;br /&gt;
Perjury and obstruction are acts of OMISSION???  WEAK???&lt;br /&gt;
And when did Fitz spend “tens of millions?”  Last I heard he ran his office on a shoestring.  Do you have any recent number on Fitz’s expenses on this case?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christy,  I am just starting the Wolff piece in VF.  Wolff writes that “Fitzgerald, aware, no doubt, of the weakness of the charges—mere perjury and obstruction, acts of omission rather than commission—and, perhaps, defensive about the tens of millions he’d spent to produce them,….”<br />
WTF???!!??<br />
Perjury and obstruction are acts of OMISSION???  WEAK???<br />
And when did Fitz spend “tens of millions?”  Last I heard he ran his office on a shoestring.  Do you have any recent number on Fitz’s expenses on this case?</p>
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		<title>By: HotFlash</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/the-lunch-bunch-2/#comment-570275</link>
		<dc:creator>HotFlash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-569964&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;My, my @&lt;br /&gt;
                140              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Funny clip, but somebody take care of that screaming baby….&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can we complain about Pammy and child abuse?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-569964"><em>My, my @<br />
                140              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Funny clip, but somebody take care of that screaming baby….</p>
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<p>Can we complain about Pammy and child abuse?</p>
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		<title>By: HotFlash</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/the-lunch-bunch-2/#comment-570264</link>
		<dc:creator>HotFlash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-569933&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TiredFed @ 122&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hotflash and theExile, if you are still around, I left you a note downstairs re: Valerie’s W2s.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tired Fed,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I see your note and thank you.  I’ll send a copy to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.treas.gov/tigta/contact_report.shtml&quot;&gt;IRS IG&lt;/a&gt; and report back.  Firedogs multitask!  I owe you a backrub (in a very platonic way, of course) and some Sleepytime tea.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Justice! Popcorn! It’s the Firedog way!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-569933"><em>TiredFed @ 122</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Hotflash and theExile, if you are still around, I left you a note downstairs re: Valerie’s W2s.</p>
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<p>Tired Fed,</p>
<p>I see your note and thank you.  I’ll send a copy to the <a href="http://www.treas.gov/tigta/contact_report.shtml">IRS IG</a> and report back.  Firedogs multitask!  I owe you a backrub (in a very platonic way, of course) and some Sleepytime tea.</p>
<p>Justice! Popcorn! It’s the Firedog way!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Clausen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/the-lunch-bunch-2/#comment-570026</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Clausen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-570015&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Redshift @ 148&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-569858&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jim Clausen @ 58 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connaghton up next on Waxman,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Muddying the waters. we consulted many. Certifiable doubt. we exhaustably studied this.&lt;br /&gt;
One more comment. Some Dem made the very accurate observation that their argument was similar to tobacco company behavior about Certifiable Doubt about the Science of tha community. This I think will resonate.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hope so, since that’s exactly where the argument comes from, as Chris Mooney’s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.waronscience.com/&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Republican War on Science&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; makes clear. Whenever you hear a conservative mouth the phrase “sound science,” it’s a tactic that is explicitly out of the tobacco wars — “sound” science means “research” produced by people in the pay of the affected industry.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks Redshift,&lt;br /&gt;
“hat dog on’t hunt,”in the words of the wonderful Larry Johnson(ex-CIA)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-570015"><em>Redshift @ 148</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-569858"><em>Jim Clausen @ 58 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Connaghton up next on Waxman,</p>
<p>Muddying the waters. we consulted many. Certifiable doubt. we exhaustably studied this.<br />
One more comment. Some Dem made the very accurate observation that their argument was similar to tobacco company behavior about Certifiable Doubt about the Science of tha community. This I think will resonate.</p>
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<p>I hope so, since that’s exactly where the argument comes from, as Chris Mooney’s <a href="http://www.waronscience.com/"><em>The Republican War on Science</em></a> makes clear. Whenever you hear a conservative mouth the phrase “sound science,” it’s a tactic that is explicitly out of the tobacco wars — “sound” science means “research” produced by people in the pay of the affected industry.</p>
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<p>Thanks Redshift,<br />
“hat dog on’t hunt,”in the words of the wonderful Larry Johnson(ex-CIA)</p>
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		<title>By: Redshift</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/the-lunch-bunch-2/#comment-570015</link>
		<dc:creator>Redshift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-569858&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jim Clausen @ 58 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connaghton up next on Waxman,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Muddying the waters. we consulted many. Certifiable doubt. we exhaustably studied this.&lt;br /&gt;
One more comment. Some Dem made the very accurate observation that their argument was similar to tobacco company behavior about Certifiable Doubt about the Science of tha community. This I think will resonate.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hope so, since that’s exactly where the argument comes from, as Chris Mooney’s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.waronscience.com/&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Republican War on Science&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; makes clear. Whenever you hear a conservative mouth the phrase “sound science,” it’s a tactic that is explicitly out of the tobacco wars — “sound” science means “research” produced by people in the pay of the affected industry.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-569858"><em>Jim Clausen @ 58 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Connaghton up next on Waxman,</p>
<p>Muddying the waters. we consulted many. Certifiable doubt. we exhaustably studied this.<br />
One more comment. Some Dem made the very accurate observation that their argument was similar to tobacco company behavior about Certifiable Doubt about the Science of tha community. This I think will resonate.</p>
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<p>I hope so, since that’s exactly where the argument comes from, as Chris Mooney’s <a href="http://www.waronscience.com/"><em>The Republican War on Science</em></a> makes clear. Whenever you hear a conservative mouth the phrase “sound science,” it’s a tactic that is explicitly out of the tobacco wars — “sound” science means “research” produced by people in the pay of the affected industry.</p>
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		<title>By: grape_crush</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/the-lunch-bunch-2/#comment-570009</link>
		<dc:creator>grape_crush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-569964&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;My, my @ 140 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Funny clip, but somebody take care of that screaming baby….&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah, and the kid in the background was pretty annoying too.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-569964"><em>My, my @ 140 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Funny clip, but somebody take care of that screaming baby….</p>
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<p>Yeah, and the kid in the background was pretty annoying too.</p>
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		<title>By: Mabel&#8217;s Wig Shack</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/the-lunch-bunch-2/#comment-569989</link>
		<dc:creator>Mabel&#8217;s Wig Shack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;March 18, 2003&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Barbara Bush tells Diane Sawyer on ABC’s “Good Morning America” that she will not watch televised coverage of the war: “Why should we hear about body bags and deaths, and how many, what day it’s going to happen, and how many this or what do you suppose? Or, I mean, it’s, it’s not relevant. So, why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;————————–&lt;br /&gt;
Heaven opens and six hundred sixty six million blackened tongues&lt;br /&gt;
lay waste to Houston&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>March 18, 2003</p>
<p>Barbara Bush tells Diane Sawyer on ABC’s “Good Morning America” that she will not watch televised coverage of the war: “Why should we hear about body bags and deaths, and how many, what day it’s going to happen, and how many this or what do you suppose? Or, I mean, it’s, it’s not relevant. So, why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?” </p>
<p>————————–<br />
Heaven opens and six hundred sixty six million blackened tongues<br />
lay waste to Houston</p>
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		<title>By: kdh22</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/the-lunch-bunch-2/#comment-569982</link>
		<dc:creator>kdh22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-569954&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;egregious @ 134&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-569934&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jim Clausen @ 123 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I apologize that I am not Emptywheel. I have not differentiated between who to attribute what but got a kick out of trying.Hope this gave the essense of the hearing.&lt;br /&gt;
ps. Firedoglake has inspired me to try. Thanks, pups. I will listen to Gore if I am helpful to the community.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jim Clausen—&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You were miraculous!  It’s the content that counts, forget what it looks like. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;THANK YOU for giving us the live blog. It’s really hard, have had some experience there…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please accept our gratitude.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mr. Clausen,  You were great and thanks again!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-569954"><em>egregious @ 134</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-569934"><em>Jim Clausen @ 123 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I apologize that I am not Emptywheel. I have not differentiated between who to attribute what but got a kick out of trying.Hope this gave the essense of the hearing.<br />
ps. Firedoglake has inspired me to try. Thanks, pups. I will listen to Gore if I am helpful to the community.</p>
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<p>Jim Clausen—</p>
<p>You were miraculous!  It’s the content that counts, forget what it looks like. </p>
<p>THANK YOU for giving us the live blog. It’s really hard, have had some experience there…</p>
<p>Please accept our gratitude.</p>
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<p>Mr. Clausen,  You were great and thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/the-lunch-bunch-2/#comment-569976</link>
		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-569905&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;PunchPrincess @ 99&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-569861&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;egregious @&lt;br /&gt;
                61              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Punch—&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The article went online before the 14th, and was shared at least with Rove before publication.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So you think that Joe and Valerie found out on the 11th when Novak submitted it to his syndicate, or from Richard Holdt, or someone in the WH? Valerie was very vague. She just said, “the week before”. I can’t believe that the WH would have given her a heads up/warning.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Neither.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Remember Novak blabbed to Joe’s friend, who told Joe, who contacted CNN. And then Novak called Joe (IIRC on July 10), and Joe said it’d be stupid if it what Novak said were true. Novak also lied and said his souce was folks at CIA, even though hehadn’t talked to Harlow yet.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-569861"><em>egregious @<br />
                61              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Punch—</p>
<p>The article went online before the 14th, and was shared at least with Rove before publication.</p>
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<p>So you think that Joe and Valerie found out on the 11th when Novak submitted it to his syndicate, or from Richard Holdt, or someone in the WH? Valerie was very vague. She just said, “the week before”. I can’t believe that the WH would have given her a heads up/warning.</p>
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<p>Neither.</p>
<p>Remember Novak blabbed to Joe’s friend, who told Joe, who contacted CNN. And then Novak called Joe (IIRC on July 10), and Joe said it’d be stupid if it what Novak said were true. Novak also lied and said his souce was folks at CIA, even though hehadn’t talked to Harlow yet.</p>
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