Comments on: Late Nite FDL: Anatomy Of A Conservative Sissy-Attack http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/late-nite-fdl-anatomy-of-a-conservative-sissy-attack/ Firedoglake weblog Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:11:57 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: BDIII http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/late-nite-fdl-anatomy-of-a-conservative-sissy-attack/#comment-572317 BDIII Tue, 20 Mar 2007 19:36:14 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/late-nite-fdl-anatomy-of-a-conservative-sissy-attack/#comment-572317 <p>Here’s a good laugh.</p> <p>Pasting the direct link leads you to the subscription wall, so google the following: tnr national parks service crowd estimate.</p> <p>The first link will be an archived National Review article all about…. (wait for it)… The National Park Service axing the crowd counts. </p> <p>The payoff paragraph:</p> <p>“The dam broke in 1995, the year Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan staged his Million Man March–which looked a lot like 400,000 to the Park Police. Farrakhan cried racism and threatened to sue the federal government. And, when ABC News hired a respected Boston University professor by the name of Farouk El-Baz to look over the Park Service’s numbers, it looked like he might have a legitimate gripe (if not much of a legal case). Working from Park Service imaging but with more accurate assumptions about population density, El-Baz generated an estimate of roughly 800,000, with a margin of error of 20 percent. Before long, the Park Service was asking El-Baz how to improve its techniques. But, when he said that a truly accurate estimate would require a multimillion dollar investment in fixed-wing aircraft and digital cameras, Congress balked and yanked the Park Service out of the counting game altogether.”</p> <p>It feels good to out The National Review as the lefty stoke-rag that we always knew it was.</p> Here’s a good laugh.

Pasting the direct link leads you to the subscription wall, so google the following: tnr national parks service crowd estimate.

The first link will be an archived National Review article all about…. (wait for it)… The National Park Service axing the crowd counts.

The payoff paragraph:

“The dam broke in 1995, the year Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan staged his Million Man March–which looked a lot like 400,000 to the Park Police. Farrakhan cried racism and threatened to sue the federal government. And, when ABC News hired a respected Boston University professor by the name of Farouk El-Baz to look over the Park Service’s numbers, it looked like he might have a legitimate gripe (if not much of a legal case). Working from Park Service imaging but with more accurate assumptions about population density, El-Baz generated an estimate of roughly 800,000, with a margin of error of 20 percent. Before long, the Park Service was asking El-Baz how to improve its techniques. But, when he said that a truly accurate estimate would require a multimillion dollar investment in fixed-wing aircraft and digital cameras, Congress balked and yanked the Park Service out of the counting game altogether.”

It feels good to out The National Review as the lefty stoke-rag that we always knew it was.

]]> By: Lawnguylander http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/late-nite-fdl-anatomy-of-a-conservative-sissy-attack/#comment-572107 Lawnguylander Tue, 20 Mar 2007 18:41:41 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/late-nite-fdl-anatomy-of-a-conservative-sissy-attack/#comment-572107 <p><a href="#comment-571157"><em>Gavin’s big scary Amazon of a girlfriend @<br /> 173 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Gav, sweetie, it’s getting late and we should probably go. Want to get my car and bring it ’round the front?</p></blockquote> <p>I thought Gavin’s girfriend was Marie Jon? Or is she with Brad? I can never remember.</p> Gavin’s big scary Amazon of a girlfriend @
173

Gav, sweetie, it’s getting late and we should probably go. Want to get my car and bring it ’round the front?

I thought Gavin’s girfriend was Marie Jon? Or is she with Brad? I can never remember.

]]> By: abraham http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/late-nite-fdl-anatomy-of-a-conservative-sissy-attack/#comment-572069 abraham Tue, 20 Mar 2007 18:20:46 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/late-nite-fdl-anatomy-of-a-conservative-sissy-attack/#comment-572069 <p>Of course.</p> <p>So what I’ve been observing about the so-called “conservative” right is thus:</p> <p>a) Conservatives are generally boring people, who<br /> b) Want you to believe what they believe, and<br /> c) If you don’t believe what they believe they will go into conniptions and stop at nothing (not even their own supposed principles) to have you crushed, and<br /> d) If facts and reality just don’t line up with their position they simply make up facts and “reality”, or<br /> e) If their beliefs have been thoroughly debunked they go on believing them nevertheless and continue to insist that their “facts” and “reality” is correct and the naysayers are just anti-American, etc.</p> <p>Might <a href="http://discovermagazine.com/2007/feb/toxoplasma-gondii-culture-sex-ratio">this</a> have something to do with it?</p> Of course.

So what I’ve been observing about the so-called “conservative” right is thus:

a) Conservatives are generally boring people, who
b) Want you to believe what they believe, and
c) If you don’t believe what they believe they will go into conniptions and stop at nothing (not even their own supposed principles) to have you crushed, and
d) If facts and reality just don’t line up with their position they simply make up facts and “reality”, or
e) If their beliefs have been thoroughly debunked they go on believing them nevertheless and continue to insist that their “facts” and “reality” is correct and the naysayers are just anti-American, etc.

Might this have something to do with it?

]]> By: “Fair and Balanced” Dave http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/late-nite-fdl-anatomy-of-a-conservative-sissy-attack/#comment-571876 “Fair and Balanced” Dave Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:08:57 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/late-nite-fdl-anatomy-of-a-conservative-sissy-attack/#comment-571876 <p><i>This whole spitting on vets thing has me perplexed.</i></p> <p>Maybe it’s because all those stories about veterans returning from Vietnam being spat upon have been <a href="http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0430-21.htm">thoroughly debunked</a></p> This whole spitting on vets thing has me perplexed.

Maybe it’s because all those stories about veterans returning from Vietnam being spat upon have been thoroughly debunked

]]> By: abraham http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/late-nite-fdl-anatomy-of-a-conservative-sissy-attack/#comment-571746 abraham Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:14:34 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/late-nite-fdl-anatomy-of-a-conservative-sissy-attack/#comment-571746 <p>This whole spitting on vets thing has me perplexed.</p> <p>Knowing how peaceniks usually are, I seriously doubt, nor can I even imagine, a peacenik getting so worked up by their own vitriol that they would spit on anyone, let alone a vet who just got back from a terrible experience.</p> <p>Now, I can imagine, and the photos I’ve seen of these people suggest, an anti-antiwar zealot spitting on troops who march in antiwar protests. The way these people carry themselves, the way they speak out, the method and manner in which they try to suppress the right of others to express their opinions, leads me inexorably to the conclusion that, if there is any truth to the spitting rumors, pro-war zealots would be the ones doing the spitting.</p> This whole spitting on vets thing has me perplexed.

Knowing how peaceniks usually are, I seriously doubt, nor can I even imagine, a peacenik getting so worked up by their own vitriol that they would spit on anyone, let alone a vet who just got back from a terrible experience.

Now, I can imagine, and the photos I’ve seen of these people suggest, an anti-antiwar zealot spitting on troops who march in antiwar protests. The way these people carry themselves, the way they speak out, the method and manner in which they try to suppress the right of others to express their opinions, leads me inexorably to the conclusion that, if there is any truth to the spitting rumors, pro-war zealots would be the ones doing the spitting.

]]> By: mudkitty http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/late-nite-fdl-anatomy-of-a-conservative-sissy-attack/#comment-571549 mudkitty Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:46:24 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/late-nite-fdl-anatomy-of-a-conservative-sissy-attack/#comment-571549 <p>Why do we call these rightwingnuts conservative when they’re anything but?</p> Why do we call these rightwingnuts conservative when they’re anything but?

]]> By: mui http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/late-nite-fdl-anatomy-of-a-conservative-sissy-attack/#comment-571437 mui Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:45:41 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/late-nite-fdl-anatomy-of-a-conservative-sissy-attack/#comment-571437 <p>OK. Late to the party. Somebody really needs to post a spew warning on post and comments. Not only am I recovering from bronchitis but I was holding a copy of coffee and very, very nearly sprayed the keyboard before I got through half of the comments section. It’s real good to see Sharkbabe et al around though!</p> OK. Late to the party. Somebody really needs to post a spew warning on post and comments. Not only am I recovering from bronchitis but I was holding a copy of coffee and very, very nearly sprayed the keyboard before I got through half of the comments section. It’s real good to see Sharkbabe et al around though!

]]> By: raven http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/late-nite-fdl-anatomy-of-a-conservative-sissy-attack/#comment-571394 raven Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:29:14 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/late-nite-fdl-anatomy-of-a-conservative-sissy-attack/#comment-571394 <blockquote><p>“IF A SOLDIER IS STRONG ENOUGH,….. INSIGHT MAY HELP HIM GRADUALLY WIN A NEW RELATIONSHIP TO HIS FELLOWS AND THE COSMOS….SUCH A SOLDIER WILL DISCOVER HIS FUTURE MISSION IN LIFE TO BE AS FAR REMOVED AS POSSIBLE FROM THE DESTRUCTIVE WORK OF WAR……..ATONEMENT WILL BECOME FOR HIM NOT AN ACT OF FAITH OR A DEED, BUT A LIFE; A LIFE DEVOTED TO STRENGTHENING THE BONDS BETWEEN MEN AND BETWEEN MAN AND NATURE. HE WILL NOT BE IN ANY OBVIOUS WAY A REFORMER OR A SOCIAL WORKER OR A PREACHER. BUT AMONG HIS FRIENDS HE WILL BE KNOWN AS GENTLE, SANE AND WISE.’</p></blockquote> <p>I just got this from my USMC buddy in DC. He stands with Code Pick at Walter Reed (where he was when he got hit at Khe San).</p>

“IF A SOLDIER IS STRONG ENOUGH,….. INSIGHT MAY HELP HIM GRADUALLY WIN A NEW RELATIONSHIP TO HIS FELLOWS AND THE COSMOS….SUCH A SOLDIER WILL DISCOVER HIS FUTURE MISSION IN LIFE TO BE AS FAR REMOVED AS POSSIBLE FROM THE DESTRUCTIVE WORK OF WAR……..ATONEMENT WILL BECOME FOR HIM NOT AN ACT OF FAITH OR A DEED, BUT A LIFE; A LIFE DEVOTED TO STRENGTHENING THE BONDS BETWEEN MEN AND BETWEEN MAN AND NATURE. HE WILL NOT BE IN ANY OBVIOUS WAY A REFORMER OR A SOCIAL WORKER OR A PREACHER. BUT AMONG HIS FRIENDS HE WILL BE KNOWN AS GENTLE, SANE AND WISE.’

I just got this from my USMC buddy in DC. He stands with Code Pick at Walter Reed (where he was when he got hit at Khe San).

]]> By: Bluetoe http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/late-nite-fdl-anatomy-of-a-conservative-sissy-attack/#comment-571364 Bluetoe Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:21:37 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/late-nite-fdl-anatomy-of-a-conservative-sissy-attack/#comment-571364 <p>Don’t expect anyone will find a smoking gun in the Documents. Dump is a good term for them. Fluff, filler with little bits and pieces of interest. Sure these were scrubbed clean before they were literally “dumped”</p> Don’t expect anyone will find a smoking gun in the Documents. Dump is a good term for them. Fluff, filler with little bits and pieces of interest. Sure these were scrubbed clean before they were literally “dumped”

]]> By: Mandrake http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/late-nite-fdl-anatomy-of-a-conservative-sissy-attack/#comment-571338 Mandrake Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:03:49 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/19/late-nite-fdl-anatomy-of-a-conservative-sissy-attack/#comment-571338 <p><a href="#comment-571288"><em>Jenny’O @ 276 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>my husband and i was there on st pat’s day and saw the polite behavior of the black leather guys. when one of the gold star moms was on the stage talking about her step son who was killed in iraq the brave men in black were behind her taunting her until she broke at the end–big guys you made her cry.<br /> wm (my husband) and i were standing close to the entrance to the field talking to some fella there and three of the black shirts came up behind and one (a 20 something) shouldered my hubby pretty hard, then goes ’sorry man, my bad” sarcastically. wm is always a nice easygoing guy so he half turns to say ‘hey that’s ok’ or something and i swear when that young guy saw wm’s grey beard he was a little ashamed. i hope he was ashamed but he couldn’t really apologise or his 2 black shirt buddies would have called him a hippy like they did us.</p> <p>just one last note: where do i go to get george soros to reimburse me for the hotel, gas, tips food and all.<br /> thanks.</p></blockquote> <p>Good question considering he is a Hillary supporter/defender.</p> Jenny’O @ 276

my husband and i was there on st pat’s day and saw the polite behavior of the black leather guys. when one of the gold star moms was on the stage talking about her step son who was killed in iraq the brave men in black were behind her taunting her until she broke at the end–big guys you made her cry.
wm (my husband) and i were standing close to the entrance to the field talking to some fella there and three of the black shirts came up behind and one (a 20 something) shouldered my hubby pretty hard, then goes ’sorry man, my bad” sarcastically. wm is always a nice easygoing guy so he half turns to say ‘hey that’s ok’ or something and i swear when that young guy saw wm’s grey beard he was a little ashamed. i hope he was ashamed but he couldn’t really apologise or his 2 black shirt buddies would have called him a hippy like they did us.

just one last note: where do i go to get george soros to reimburse me for the hotel, gas, tips food and all.
thanks.

Good question considering he is a Hillary supporter/defender.

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