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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;No Crime was Committed&#8221; Argued Victoria Toensing &#8211; As the Lawyer for Fox News, ABC, CBS, NBC and CNN</title>
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		<title>By: Tom Maguire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Maguire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As noted above, the link to a &lt;a href=&quot;http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/files/15_page_brief_by_vt__bs.doc&quot;&gt;Word version of the amicus brief is here&lt;/a&gt;; the last page of the file offers a link to a full .pdf version, but that link is not working for me (OK, “Word” is not working for me either, so maybe my problem is with the text editor I am using.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As noted above, the link to a <a href="http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/files/15_page_brief_by_vt__bs.doc">Word version of the amicus brief is here</a>; the last page of the file offers a link to a full .pdf version, but that link is not working for me (OK, “Word” is not working for me either, so maybe my problem is with the text editor I am using.)</p>
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		<title>By: maunga</title>
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		<dc:creator>maunga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 02:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If all is indeed going to Hell in the proverbial for them…. Cheney to go, Rove going, the Republican Party just might “persuade” W to appoint Poppy as VP and then quit…….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is late and fantasy is fun.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If all is indeed going to Hell in the proverbial for them…. Cheney to go, Rove going, the Republican Party just might “persuade” W to appoint Poppy as VP and then quit…….</p>
<p>It is late and fantasy is fun.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 02:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;sleepy time-&lt;br /&gt;
nite ok kiddo-i get where you’re comin’ from although it’s the opposite hill from where i reside………….but it’s a nice valley inbetween that we both see………&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sleepy time-<br />
nite ok kiddo-i get where you’re comin’ from although it’s the opposite hill from where i reside………….but it’s a nice valley inbetween that we both see………</p>
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		<title>By: DBaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>DBaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 02:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-570684&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;smapdi @&lt;br /&gt;
                148              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.digenovatoensing.com/amicibrief032305.pdf&quot;&gt;http://www.digenovatoensing.co.....032305.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
This it?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lindy @217  This is it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The quotes and end-notes are quite Coulteresque.  If you are a reader of old The Daily Howler, you will understand what I am talking about.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I had forgotten that 24 (out of the total 40) pages span the bona fides of the 36 media organizations - I skipped it the first time and had completely forgotten about that.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-570684"><em>smapdi @<br />
                148              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.digenovatoensing.com/amicibrief032305.pdf">http://www.digenovatoensing.co&#8230;..032305.pdf</a><br />
This it?</p>
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<p>Lindy @217  This is it.</p>
<p>The quotes and end-notes are quite Coulteresque.  If you are a reader of old The Daily Howler, you will understand what I am talking about.</p>
<p>I had forgotten that 24 (out of the total 40) pages span the bona fides of the 36 media organizations &#8211; I skipped it the first time and had completely forgotten about that.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 02:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;lindy @230&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;dmac @218, I’m facing something like that in a couple of months when I move. The local democratic party is pretty well kept inactive by a few. I’m looking at ways to make contact with like-minded individuals there. I’m thinking about publishing a newsletter, having discussion groups, and trying to get progressive speakers for the area. I might even have a building :). Any and all ideas welcome. I keep a log of those. Rome wasn’t built in a day, but it sure as hell fell apart fast, so I have to keep moving *g*. What makes all this so ironic is that I’m a very shy person. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;like-minded, therein lies the doofus factor…….i would have settled for like-minded vision……..where we want to head, that should be something people are able to have in common, but no, they’re hung up on ideas, ideology and the personas that ritualize their ideas………..no thanks……..so good luck in making something come alive, personalize what people need and want to see happen…and then it can…that is what i hope for you………&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>dmac @218, I’m facing something like that in a couple of months when I move. The local democratic party is pretty well kept inactive by a few. I’m looking at ways to make contact with like-minded individuals there. I’m thinking about publishing a newsletter, having discussion groups, and trying to get progressive speakers for the area. I might even have a building :). Any and all ideas welcome. I keep a log of those. Rome wasn’t built in a day, but it sure as hell fell apart fast, so I have to keep moving *g*. What makes all this so ironic is that I’m a very shy person. </p></blockquote>
<p>like-minded, therein lies the doofus factor…….i would have settled for like-minded vision……..where we want to head, that should be something people are able to have in common, but no, they’re hung up on ideas, ideology and the personas that ritualize their ideas………..no thanks……..so good luck in making something come alive, personalize what people need and want to see happen…and then it can…that is what i hope for you………</p>
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		<title>By: Oklahoma kiddo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oklahoma kiddo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 02:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-570888&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;dmac @ 234 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;i only found this place at the end of january, but have found it to be a great resource. one of the reasons is your commentary. 
&lt;p&gt;you say things that make me think…….i think whaaaaaaa? then, ok, then, wellllll, then maaaaaaaybe, then oooooooohhhhh…….i get it….and i move my outpost over and take in the new view……. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i don’t always AGREE with you, but what you say makes me think, and it is valuable to me for that reason….. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;so, if you’re reading and lurking, my brain needs some real meat to chew on.&lt;br /&gt;
so, toss out some more bait, will ya?&lt;br /&gt;
======================================== &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thanks for the bait……….glad you’re back &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;i wrote this to ok kiddo a while back and felt the need to repost it due to the turn of conversation&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I remember that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;;0)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-570888"><em>dmac @ 234 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><blockquote>i only found this place at the end of january, but have found it to be a great resource. one of the reasons is your commentary. </p>
<p>you say things that make me think…….i think whaaaaaaa? then, ok, then, wellllll, then maaaaaaaybe, then oooooooohhhhh…….i get it….and i move my outpost over and take in the new view……. </p>
<p>i don’t always AGREE with you, but what you say makes me think, and it is valuable to me for that reason….. </p>
<p>so, if you’re reading and lurking, my brain needs some real meat to chew on.<br />
so, toss out some more bait, will ya?<br />
======================================== </p>
<p>thanks for the bait……….glad you’re back </p>
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<p>i wrote this to ok kiddo a while back and felt the need to repost it due to the turn of conversation</p>
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<p>I remember that.</p>
<p>;0)</p>
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		<title>By: Ann in AZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann in AZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 02:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-570825&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;NorskeFlamethrower @ 225&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;1,460 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Citizen Ann in AZ:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bless your heart, it is true that the further left you get the less tolerance there is for corporate shills and political opportunists…and make no mistake, that’s what Joe Biden is.  He is a shill for the bankin’ and credit card industry and fully capable of makin’ himself sound like a real progressive (at times) but when it comes to the crucial votes or the politics of conscience, he’s way out in front of the wind.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That doesn’t mean we don’t appreciate his wearin’ the mantle of “Democrat”, it just means we don’t trust ‘im and we won’t follow his leadership into corporatist hell.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;KEEP THE FAITH AND KNOW WHO THE ENEMY IS…IT GETS COMPLICATED SOMETIMES!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Norske, I understand what your saying, and I don’t believe he’ll make it to the Presidency.  I just think that when he doesn’t, it should be for the reasons you so eloquently stated and not due to all the silliness about hair plugs and his smile is too big.  I’m not necessarily a big fan of his, but I believe in giving credit where credit is due, and I don’t hear that nearly enough.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, just as you mentioned that you don’t trust Biden and won’t follow his lead, so too has it been shown, to the great disappointment of most of us here, me included, that other members of Congress won’t follow Feingold, even when he’s right.  He’s probably too progressive for them.  Or for that matter, Howard Dean, or Kucinich.  I love Dean, and Kucinich is looking better to me every time I hear him speak.  I thought Tammy Duckworth was an impressive candidate during the election and even since.  But I’m not that familiar with her politics, since I’m not in her district.  However, I’m assuming that she’s not progressive enough to suit us, because I’ve heard a lot of criticism of her.  How are we going to pull this party together with everyone at odds with one another?  I guess that’s my point.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>1,460 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..</p>
<p>Citizen Ann in AZ:</p>
<p>Bless your heart, it is true that the further left you get the less tolerance there is for corporate shills and political opportunists…and make no mistake, that’s what Joe Biden is.  He is a shill for the bankin’ and credit card industry and fully capable of makin’ himself sound like a real progressive (at times) but when it comes to the crucial votes or the politics of conscience, he’s way out in front of the wind.</p>
<p>That doesn’t mean we don’t appreciate his wearin’ the mantle of “Democrat”, it just means we don’t trust ‘im and we won’t follow his leadership into corporatist hell.</p>
<p>KEEP THE FAITH AND KNOW WHO THE ENEMY IS…IT GETS COMPLICATED SOMETIMES!!</p>
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<p>Norske, I understand what your saying, and I don’t believe he’ll make it to the Presidency.  I just think that when he doesn’t, it should be for the reasons you so eloquently stated and not due to all the silliness about hair plugs and his smile is too big.  I’m not necessarily a big fan of his, but I believe in giving credit where credit is due, and I don’t hear that nearly enough.  </p>
<p>Also, just as you mentioned that you don’t trust Biden and won’t follow his lead, so too has it been shown, to the great disappointment of most of us here, me included, that other members of Congress won’t follow Feingold, even when he’s right.  He’s probably too progressive for them.  Or for that matter, Howard Dean, or Kucinich.  I love Dean, and Kucinich is looking better to me every time I hear him speak.  I thought Tammy Duckworth was an impressive candidate during the election and even since.  But I’m not that familiar with her politics, since I’m not in her district.  However, I’m assuming that she’s not progressive enough to suit us, because I’ve heard a lot of criticism of her.  How are we going to pull this party together with everyone at odds with one another?  I guess that’s my point.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 02:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;i only found this place at the end of january, but have found it to be a great resource. one of the reasons is your commentary. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you say things that make me think…….i think whaaaaaaa? then, ok, then, wellllll, then maaaaaaaybe, then oooooooohhhhh…….i get it….and i move my outpost over and take in the new view……. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i don’t always AGREE with you, but what you say makes me think, and it is valuable to me for that reason….. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;so, if you’re reading and lurking, my brain needs some real meat to chew on.&lt;br /&gt;
so, toss out some more bait, will ya?&lt;br /&gt;
======================================== &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thanks for the bait……….glad you’re back &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i wrote this to ok kiddo a while back and felt the need to repost it due to the turn of conversation&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>i only found this place at the end of january, but have found it to be a great resource. one of the reasons is your commentary. </p>
<p>you say things that make me think…….i think whaaaaaaa? then, ok, then, wellllll, then maaaaaaaybe, then oooooooohhhhh…….i get it….and i move my outpost over and take in the new view……. </p>
<p>i don’t always AGREE with you, but what you say makes me think, and it is valuable to me for that reason….. </p>
<p>so, if you’re reading and lurking, my brain needs some real meat to chew on.<br />
so, toss out some more bait, will ya?<br />
======================================== </p>
<p>thanks for the bait……….glad you’re back </p>
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<p>i wrote this to ok kiddo a while back and felt the need to repost it due to the turn of conversation</p>
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		<title>By: powowo500</title>
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		<dc:creator>powowo500</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 02:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Probably get EPUed&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Black Adder on confidential information (Plamegate-like))&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uzZNWu9LNc&amp;mode=related&amp;search=&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....mp;search=&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably get EPUed</p>
<p>Black Adder on confidential information (Plamegate-like))</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uzZNWu9LNc&amp;mode=related&amp;search=">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v&#8230;..mp;search=</a></p>
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		<title>By: Oklahoma kiddo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oklahoma kiddo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 02:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-570817&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;HotFlash @ 224 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;OKKiddo and Norske, I went a-googling for Fred Harris.  According to Wiki he is still alive, but apparently a NM resident now.  SOunds like a hell of a guy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lindy, the brief turned up an another thread, here is the link &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.digenovatoensing.com/amicibrief032305.pdf&quot;&gt;http://www.digenovatoensing.co.....032305.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They are going to wonder where all the traffic is coming from!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;;0)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>OKKiddo and Norske, I went a-googling for Fred Harris.  According to Wiki he is still alive, but apparently a NM resident now.  SOunds like a hell of a guy.</p>
<p>Lindy, the brief turned up an another thread, here is the link <a href="http://www.digenovatoensing.com/amicibrief032305.pdf">http://www.digenovatoensing.co&#8230;..032305.pdf</a></p>
<p>They are going to wonder where all the traffic is coming from!</p>
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